**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Sun Jul 17 02:59:57 2011
Jul 17 03:01:31 <rwhitby> Thrik: so does it match or not?
Jul 17 03:01:45 <Thrik> well no it doesn't. the file name doesn't match either.
Jul 17 03:01:56 <Thrik> i've been on the phone.
Jul 17 03:02:16 <rwhitby> looks like you have a corrupted download, as the error message suggests
Jul 17 03:03:05 <Thrik> yeah i'm downloading a new copy.
Jul 17 03:06:49 <Thrik> well, it won't get past the low battery symbol.
Jul 17 03:07:04 <Thrik> i've had it plugged into the wall for the last 30 minutes.
Jul 17 03:14:36 <Thrik> well it's just showing me the low battery logo, it's been plugged in for a good while. I think it should've gone beyond this point by now.
Jul 17 03:15:01 <Thrik> Do you think there is a coincidental hardware failure like you mentioned?
Jul 17 03:16:04 <rwhitby> if the battery is dead, it takes a while to charge, since it only trickle charges until the bootloader starts
Jul 17 03:17:25 <Thrik> ok.  well i finished downloading the new copy of the doctor. the md5 still doesn't match.
Jul 17 03:17:30 <Thrik> i'll keep downloading until it does
Jul 17 03:18:48 <Thrik> thank you for your help, by the way.
Jul 17 03:18:53 <Thrik> it is appreciated.
Jul 17 03:20:03 <Thrik> hp logo at last
Jul 17 03:25:40 <Thrik> ok md5 finally matches. yay
Jul 17 03:28:01 <Thrik> i  guess it'll have to be a while yet. it'll need some more charging before i can keep it in recovery mode for more than 30 seconds.
Jul 17 03:41:19 <NuttyBunny> there.. is... a .. limit... for ... data... passed... to ... node.js... right??!!!!
Jul 17 03:42:24 <Thrik> rwhitby: here's another log http://pastebin.com/9PP6KhWb
Jul 17 03:43:12 <rwhitby> yep, I presume you've already seen line 75
Jul 17 03:45:51 <LoneStar99> howdy
Jul 17 03:46:35 <Thrik> bad cable.
Jul 17 03:47:50 <Thrik> it keeps running out of battery. i'll let it charge continually for at least 2 hours.
Jul 17 03:47:57 <Thrik> before i try doctoring it again.
Jul 17 03:48:22 <Thrik> once it starts the process, the touchpad shows the battery, then flashes the note about reliably charging it.
Jul 17 03:48:36 <Thrik> naturally, it fails at that point.
Jul 17 03:57:39 <NuttyBunny> charge it from the charger
Jul 17 04:05:15 <Thrik> i am.
Jul 17 04:05:26 <Thrik> it's the only way.
Jul 17 04:15:58 * halfhalo yawns
Jul 17 04:19:07 * rwhitby installs LibreOffice on the TouchPad
Jul 17 04:20:20 <Mike9863> How would I go about adding another image host to the upload tool in the Photos app? Currently it only lists Facebook and Photobucket.
Jul 17 04:20:42 <rwhitby> write a synergy service
Jul 17 04:36:29 <calcmandan_> rwhitby: excuse my ignorance. That error on line 75 from earlier. that should indicate a bad cable then? or just a drained battery?
Jul 17 04:36:50 <rwhitby> calcmandan_: I would assume not enough battery juice
Jul 17 04:37:50 <calcmandan_> rwhitby: i'll let it charge all night then. it freezes so early in the bootup process that I'm not sure it goes beyond a trickle charge.
Jul 17 04:37:55 <calcmandan_> i guess i'll let it go all night.
Jul 17 05:12:20 <fxspec06> i'm trying to decrypt a string
Jul 17 05:12:30 <fxspec06> that i encrypted with keymanager
Jul 17 05:12:42 <fxspec06> Crypt failure, err=com.palm.keymanager is not running
Jul 17 05:14:21 <fxspec06> anyone know what this could be?
Jul 17 05:15:57 <PatrickC> nope
Jul 17 05:19:01 <fxspec06> then how do i use mojo model encrypt
Jul 17 05:19:23 <PatrickC> no clue
Jul 17 05:19:24 <PatrickC> lol
Jul 17 05:19:25 <PatrickC> srry
Jul 17 05:24:16 <fxspec06> asdgh
Jul 17 05:24:18 <fxspec06> i hate encryption
Jul 17 05:24:23 <fxspec06> i've spent like 2 hrs on it
Jul 17 05:24:29 <fxspec06> i ahve a big update that relies on it
Jul 17 05:24:30 <fxspec06> lol
Jul 17 05:25:23 <fxspec06> okay
Jul 17 05:25:26 <fxspec06> i think mayb i got it
Jul 17 05:30:10 <fxspec06> okay i got it
Jul 17 05:43:39 <fxspec06> patrick c
Jul 17 05:43:42 <fxspec06> i'll send new ipk
Jul 17 05:43:44 <fxspec06> in about
Jul 17 05:43:46 <fxspec06> 3 mins
Jul 17 05:43:48 <PatrickC> ok
Jul 17 05:43:49 <PatrickC> cool
Jul 17 05:50:48 <fxspec06> almost ready
Jul 17 05:51:00 <PatrickC> cool
Jul 17 05:56:39 <fxspec06> sending
Jul 17 05:59:09 <PatrickC> got it
Jul 17 06:00:03 <fxspec06> wow dude holy crap
Jul 17 06:00:07 <fxspec06> i was up all night doing that
Jul 17 06:00:36 <PatrickC> I haven't installed yet
Jul 17 06:00:45 <PatrickC> trying to get ubuntu chroot working
Jul 17 06:00:56 <fxspec06> this one is cool.
Jul 17 06:01:03 <fxspec06> lol but it's ok
Jul 17 06:02:12 <PatrickC> ok :)
Jul 17 06:03:55 <fxspec06> hows ur app coming
Jul 17 06:04:43 <PatrickC> haven't had much time to work on it lately
Jul 17 06:04:50 <PatrickC> will probably do some work on monday
Jul 17 06:13:13 <fxspec06> that's cool
Jul 17 06:13:16 <fxspec06> man
Jul 17 06:13:17 <fxspec06> for .99
Jul 17 06:13:30 <fxspec06> one would really get their money's worth out of my game.
Jul 17 06:13:53 <PatrickC> yeah
Jul 17 06:17:25 <PatrickC> gettin ready to install
Jul 17 06:17:32 <PatrickC> giving up on chroot for tonight
Jul 17 07:07:42 <calcmandan_> rwhitby: thanks for your help earlier
Jul 17 07:08:03 <calcmandan_> rwhitby: the problem solved itself. while i was watching a movie, i suppose it just took forever to boot.
Jul 17 07:08:09 <calcmandan_> it operates as it should.
Jul 17 07:08:42 <rwhitby> you might want to change the topic of your post, since things that are bricked are usually permanently so ;)
Jul 17 07:11:42 <destinal> has anyone else had their app catalog become some kind of bizarre shortcut for index.html?
Jul 17 07:12:04 <destinal> http://index.html/  specifically
Jul 17 07:12:51 <destinal> it has the little updating circle icon over it and is grey
Jul 17 07:16:02 <Xuzz> destinal: yep
Jul 17 07:16:13 <Xuzz> I got that earlier today
Jul 17 07:16:22 <Xuzz> once it finished updating and the circle went away, it started working again
Jul 17 07:16:43 <Xuzz> (better, actually, the annoying Pivot issue where all the download buttons would be in the top left seems to be fixed)
Jul 17 07:16:56 <destinal> hmm, but this has been this way all day on a 50 megabit link so I don't think it's gonna update
Jul 17 07:17:00 <destinal> maybe I should reboot
Jul 17 07:18:20 <Xuzz> yeah, maybe
Jul 17 07:18:40 <Xuzz> does your Software Manager still have the App Catalog shown with a blue background?
Jul 17 07:18:41 <destinal> also the touchpad currently really really sucks as an ebook reader.  I used calibre to convert an epub to a word dock and used word to save it as a pdf and the pdf reader is semi tolerable
Jul 17 07:19:04 <Xuzz> destinal: hey, wait, today's the 17th
Jul 17 07:19:31 <destinal> yeah has blue background
Jul 17 07:20:03 <Xuzz> yeah, that means it's still installing i thnk
Jul 17 07:22:40 <destinal> I think it'll install for ever, going to try reboot I guess
Jul 17 07:26:01 <rwhitby> Xuzz: what happens in the 17th?
Jul 17 07:26:14 <destinal> Xuzz: yup reboot fixed it
Jul 17 07:26:15 <Xuzz> rwhitby: wasn't that when they mentioned the "real" launch would be in that interview?
Jul 17 07:26:20 <Xuzz> destinal: cool
Jul 17 07:26:28 <Xuzz> seems to be an issue when the app catalog is updating
Jul 17 07:26:54 <Xuzz> It has been available in retail since the first of july in some retail locations, but our on-ad date — the date that everything is circled around — is the 17th of july.
Jul 17 07:27:05 <calcmandan> rwhitby: i attempted it. the rename worked in the thread, but not on the thread listing.
Jul 17 07:27:12 <Xuzz> -- Stephen DeWitt
Jul 17 07:27:26 <rwhitby> ah, right. hard launch date ;)
Jul 17 07:27:39 <rwhitby> Xuzz: so you got some XServer goodness going yet?
Jul 17 07:27:57 <Xuzz> rwhitby: family member borrowed my TouchPad for a week; just got it back today :(
Jul 17 07:28:35 <Xuzz> (re: above, I was going to suggest the kindle app, but then thought "oh that's not out yet", then I remembered "17th is hard launch day")
Jul 17 07:28:50 <Xuzz> But, it still doesn't seem to be there.
Jul 17 07:32:20 <destinal> Xuzz: I wonder if it's possible to coerce the browser into opening local files without running a web sever on the device
Jul 17 07:33:25 <Xuzz> i'll look at it.
Jul 17 07:33:52 <destinal> file:// isn't recognized initially but that could be something in the javascript part of the app
Jul 17 07:34:02 <Xuzz> yeah, i'll look
Jul 17 07:47:29 <rwhitby> destinal: would be a security issue if it could
Jul 17 08:14:13 <Hendikins> Hrm. Seeing all the Xecutah screenshots suddenly makes me mildly interested in a touchpad.
Jul 17 09:15:43 <cxreg> really wishing i had a pass to oscon :(
Jul 17 09:26:42 <cxreg> this xserver stuff is getting out of hand
Jul 17 09:26:45 <cxreg> in an awesome way
Jul 17 09:36:02 <rwhitby> cxreg: expo hall pass is free
Jul 17 11:08:46 <hotdp> Hello
Jul 17 11:21:09 <havanab> maybe someone can look at this, pls: https://developer.palm.com/distribution/viewtopic.php?f=11&t=16485
Jul 17 14:30:51 <hotdp> anyone heard from the tp dev discount?
Jul 17 16:08:55 <zomg> I have to say that although the Mojo docs are a bit spotty in places, it's been surprisingly problem-free developing an app :D
Jul 17 16:10:53 <matbee_> my friend won a touchpad
Jul 17 16:10:55 <matbee_> what is this!!?
Jul 17 16:11:04 <zomg> Madness? Or perhaps Sparta?
Jul 17 16:11:07 <matbee_> why cant I win it!
Jul 17 16:11:11 <matbee_> daamniiittt
Jul 17 16:11:21 <matbee_> he doesnt even like webos
Jul 17 16:11:24 <matbee_> fu hp/palm
Jul 17 16:11:30 <matbee_> give to meee
Jul 17 16:22:04 <fxspec06> is there any better way to do mojo.model.encrypt encryption & decryption than to put the key on the device in pieces and remove all traces as soon as possible
Jul 17 17:03:40 <Tibfib_> Erg. Now my laptop is off by 5 hours.
Jul 17 17:04:36 <hotdp__> anyone heard from the tp dev discount?
Jul 17 17:26:00 <matbee_> i cant doctor my pre2...?
Jul 17 17:26:08 <matbee_> it just stops
Jul 17 17:26:12 <matbee_> and now i have an unusable phone
Jul 17 17:26:52 <zomg> matbee_: not much of an expert myself, but have you checked you have the correct version of the Doctor?
Jul 17 17:27:03 <matbee_> yeah...
Jul 17 17:27:32 <matbee_> INFO: Trenchcoat: Broken pipe
Jul 17 17:27:32 <matbee_> Broken pipe
Jul 17 17:27:32 <matbee_> 17-Jul-2011 1:20:10 PM com.palm.novacom.internal.NovacomSocketStream handleSocketException
Jul 17 17:27:32 <matbee_> WARNING: SocketException Cmd: file:///sbin/trenchcoat
Jul 17 17:27:32 <matbee_> 17-Jul-2011 1:20:10 PM com.palm.nova.installer.recoverytool.CardController postFlashEvent
Jul 17 17:27:33 <zomg> Maybe it's the daleks
Jul 17 17:27:33 <matbee_> WARNING: Flash Failure
Jul 17 17:27:35 <matbee_> java.net.SocketException: Broken pipe from file:///sbin/trenchcoat, return code: 1
Jul 17 17:27:37 <matbee_> 	at java.net.SocketOutputStream.socketWrite0(Native Method)
Jul 17 17:27:39 <matbee_> 	at java.net.SocketOutputStream.socketWrite(SocketOutputStream.java:109)
Jul 17 17:27:41 <matbee_> 	at java.net.SocketOutputStream.write(SocketOutputStream.java:141)
Jul 17 17:27:45 <matbee_> 	at com.palm.novacom.internal.PacketWriter.write(PacketWriter.java:30)
Jul 17 17:27:47 <matbee_> 	at com.palm.novacom.internal.NovacomSocketStream.write(NovacomSocketStream.java:169)
Jul 17 17:27:49 <matbee_> 	at com.palm.novacom.internal.NovacomBaseStream.write(NovacomBaseStream.java:21)
Jul 17 17:27:51 <matbee_> 	at com.palm.novacom.internal.NovacomBaseStream.write(NovacomBaseStream.java:69)
Jul 17 17:27:53 <matbee_> 	at com.palm.nova.installer.core.stages.TrenchcoatStage.run(TrenchcoatStage.java:104)
Jul 17 17:27:55 <matbee_> 	at com.palm.nova.installer.core.FlasherThread.run(FlasherThread.java:414)
Jul 17 17:27:57 <matbee_> 	at java.lang.Thread.run(Thread.java:679)
Jul 17 17:27:59 <matbee_> 17-Jul-2011 1:20:10 PM com.palm.nova.installer.recoverytool.CardController postFlashEvent
Jul 17 17:28:01 <matbee_> INFO: Flash End time (Fail) 1310923210770
Jul 17 17:28:26 <matbee_> maybe its linux, in which case ill havet o boot into windows
Jul 17 17:28:28 <matbee_> but bleh
Jul 17 17:32:02 <bpadalino> do you have the novacom drivers installed ?
Jul 17 17:36:59 <matbee_> yeah
Jul 17 17:37:15 <matbee_> ...i rebooted my phone again and now it works
Jul 17 17:37:17 <matbee_> ......
Jul 17 17:39:25 <zomg> The age old IT support adage.. "Have you tried turning it off and on again?"
Jul 17 17:39:27 <zomg> =)
Jul 17 17:39:49 <bpadalino> hah
Jul 17 17:41:10 <twbbas> solves 99.9% of all tech support problems
Jul 17 17:41:41 <bpadalino> sad but true :(
Jul 17 17:42:38 <matbee_> yeah so strange
Jul 17 18:15:09 * halfhalo yawns
Jul 17 18:34:19 <zomg> Are there any icon sets suitable for webOS besides what's in the SDK?
Jul 17 18:34:48 <zomg> Silk icons are a bit small maybe :)
Jul 17 18:41:58 <sugardave> zomg: I had this bookmarked a while back: http://thenounproject.com/
Jul 17 18:44:12 <zomg> sugardave: thanks, those look pretty nice
Jul 17 19:10:47 <akanster> zomg: http://glyphish.com/
Jul 17 19:15:38 <PatrickC> what's up?
Jul 17 19:16:18 <zomg> I'm pretending I'm a graphics artist and trying to draw an icon in Photoshop
Jul 17 19:16:47 <PatrickC> lol
Jul 17 19:17:02 <PatrickC> I use Inkscape (thanks to haeffb)
Jul 17 19:17:07 <zomg> Using the icon checkmark, wanted something in that style but a cross icon (for wrong answer)
Jul 17 19:17:27 <zomg> I think I actually managed to do an okay looking icon that looks at least somewhat like the style of the checkmark icon
Jul 17 19:17:45 <PatrickC> cool
Jul 17 19:18:23 <PatrickC> here's something I made with inkscape
Jul 17 19:18:24 <PatrickC> http://awesomeapps.8tar.com/Inkscape/8-ball.png
Jul 17 19:18:43 <zomg> http://jjh.fi/~jani/awesome-icons.jpg
Jul 17 19:18:46 <PatrickC> hey cwayne
Jul 17 19:18:55 <PatrickC> cool
Jul 17 19:19:01 <PatrickC> which one? or both?
Jul 17 19:19:04 <zomg> The bottom one
Jul 17 19:19:12 <zomg> The correct-icon is the default webos one
Jul 17 19:19:13 <PatrickC> looks good
Jul 17 19:19:39 <PatrickC> Kanji Study?
Jul 17 19:19:45 <dwc-> you need a maru to go with your batsu :)
Jul 17 19:19:48 <zomg> dwc-: har
Jul 17 19:19:57 <zomg> PatrickC: yea, doing a flashcard app for kanji
Jul 17 19:20:13 <PatrickC> never heard of Kanji
Jul 17 19:20:20 <zomg> chinese characters used in the japanese writing system
Jul 17 19:20:28 <PatrickC> ah
Jul 17 19:22:48 <zomg> One of the few things I need my iPhone for is the flashcard app I have on it :D This oughta fix that issue though, once I get around to doing the space repetition tests
Jul 17 19:26:46 <dwc-> you also need someone to be getting poked in the ass when they get it wrong :P
Jul 17 19:26:53 <dwc-> j/k
Jul 17 19:27:35 <PatrickC> man.. this game is hard
Jul 17 19:27:37 <zomg> Maybe I can offer a concierge service with it, where you get some guy who does that ;)
Jul 17 19:27:46 <PatrickC> The river test"
Jul 17 19:28:11 <zomg> The river test? Was it that thing where you need to get the people on the other side of the river?
Jul 17 19:31:23 <PatrickC> yeah
Jul 17 19:32:10 <zomg> think I've completed that, but yeah it was a bit tricky :D
Jul 17 19:37:13 <PatrickC> you completed it?
Jul 17 19:43:54 <zomg> Yeah, there was some flash version of the same puzzle and I solved it.. but that was a long time ago :D
Jul 17 19:49:27 <dwc-> Moves: 23
Jul 17 19:49:29 <dwc-> Time: 04:41
Jul 17 19:49:37 <dwc-> the first minute was spent trying to figure out how to move the raft :p
Jul 17 19:49:49 <PatrickC> haha
Jul 17 19:49:53 <PatrickC> you finished it?!
Jul 17 19:50:01 <dwc-> just now
Jul 17 19:50:20 <dwc-> 23 is definitely not a minimal number of moves... I had to undo things a couple times
Jul 17 19:50:47 <PatrickC> how did you do it?! I can't figure it out haha
Jul 17 19:51:09 <dwc-> and, apparently, policemen can't be trusted to keep parents from doing bad
Jul 17 19:51:14 <dwc-> but don't do anything bad to kids themselves
Jul 17 19:51:31 <dwc-> meanwhile, kids can be left alone on the other side of the river without policemen arresting the parents for child endangerment
Jul 17 19:52:35 <dwc-> and I'm assuming your question is rhetorical since if you really wanted to know, you could just googel it
Jul 17 19:52:46 <dwc-> so I won't ruin the challenge
Jul 17 19:52:53 <PatrickC> lol
Jul 17 19:57:36 <dwc-> Moves: 17 Time: 01:28
Jul 17 19:57:49 <dwc-> I think 17 might be the minimal number of moves
Jul 17 19:58:25 <dwc-> I also think it funny that the adults can't watch the prisoner, but yet you can leave the prisoner on the shore by himself and he doesn't run away or anything
Jul 17 20:00:08 <PatrickC> yeah lol
Jul 17 20:29:25 <fxspec06> app submitted for review
Jul 17 20:29:27 <fxspec06> peace all
Jul 17 21:54:09 <zomg> Short clip of what I've been developing so far :D http://youtu.be/gzGUV6qiIkM
Jul 17 21:54:17 <zomg> (flashcard app)
Jul 17 21:56:14 <zomg> Oh, and if anyone has any opinions on improving the UI, feel free to share
Jul 17 21:56:52 <zomg> Yes, the font is a bit small on the second stage shown.. anything besides that is welcome =)
Jul 17 22:06:04 <halfhalo-hotel> dkirker!
Jul 17 22:06:13 <dkirker> hi halfhalo-hotel!
Jul 17 22:07:04 * halfhalo-hotel is pretty bored in hotel
Jul 17 22:10:07 <oil> go find a bar!
Jul 17 22:12:08 <dwc-> that allows the underage crowd in?
Jul 17 22:12:49 <halfhalo-hotel> :/
Jul 17 22:13:24 <dwc-> so, assuming you also have no rental car... where's whoever putting you up?
Jul 17 22:14:42 <halfhalo-hotel> I drove up here
Jul 17 22:14:53 <halfhalo-hotel> and I just broke down and got a hotel
Jul 17 22:15:01 * oil forgot halfhalo was just a kid xD
Jul 17 22:15:01 <dwc-> ohhh
Jul 17 22:15:08 <dwc-> uh, broke down? like... car broke down?
Jul 17 22:15:22 <dwc-> I hear they were finishing up early with the 405
Jul 17 22:15:27 <halfhalo-hotel> no, like wanted bed vs couch
Jul 17 22:16:22 <halfhalo-hotel> staying at marriot towne place in san jose
Jul 17 22:17:27 <dwc-> 280/saratoga?
Jul 17 22:17:42 <halfhalo-hotel> 440 saratoga
Jul 17 22:17:46 <Codhisattva> San Jose == Museum of computing
Jul 17 22:18:14 <Codhisattva> with the Words of Gordon Moore written in stone
Jul 17 22:18:38 <dwc-> hm, what's around there...
Jul 17 22:19:12 <dwc-> gardens, shopping mall, a bunch of ramen places
Jul 17 22:21:59 <halfhalo-hotel> watching discovery channel. dual survival.  these guys are retarted
Jul 17 22:31:59 <sugardave> yes
Jul 17 22:35:14 <halfhalo-hotel> lol
Jul 17 22:47:25 <haeffb> Pushing Daisies is an awesome show
Jul 17 22:47:39 <haeffb> streaming on Amazon.com
Jul 17 22:47:41 <dwc-> too bad it's cancelled?
Jul 17 22:47:51 <haeffb> s/is/was
Jul 17 22:49:34 <rsanchez1> hey guys, I have a quick question for enyo devs
Jul 17 22:49:49 <rsanchez1> why would you choose a VirtualList over a VirtualRepeater?
Jul 17 22:57:54 <halfhalo-hotel> ruhroh, adora!
Jul 17 22:59:13 <haeffb> I used VIrtualList because it "sounded like" a mojo list.
Jul 17 23:01:25 <haeffb> halfhalo-hotel: start tomorrow?
Jul 17 23:01:39 <halfhalo-hotel> si
Jul 17 23:03:12 <sugardave> rsanchez1: you're supposed to use a VirtualList if you're going to have more than a few hundred items (like > 200 I think is in the docs)
Jul 17 23:04:23 <rsanchez1> sugardave: I see
Jul 17 23:04:41 <rsanchez1> haeffb: at this point I wish I could get mojo lists back
Jul 17 23:04:52 <rsanchez1> they were just easier to work with
Jul 17 23:05:09 <sugardave> it's not that bad :D
Jul 17 23:05:15 <halfhalo-hotel> lies
Jul 17 23:05:54 <rsanchez1> but mojo lists were better
Jul 17 23:06:34 <haeffb> mojo lists were drag reorderable
Jul 17 23:06:49 <rsanchez1> that's a big one
Jul 17 23:06:54 <haeffb> maybe halfhalo-hotel will fixt that for enyo
Jul 17 23:07:04 <halfhalo-hotel> lolno
Jul 17 23:07:10 <rsanchez1> why would they go backwards on lists?
Jul 17 23:07:17 <rsanchez1> doesn't make sense
Jul 17 23:07:32 <haeffb> in a hurry to get something released
Jul 17 23:08:14 <rsanchez1> they had almost two years experience, and more than six months to work on it
Jul 17 23:08:29 <rsanchez1> no excuse
Jul 17 23:09:08 <rsanchez1> if they decided to just forget those almost two years experience to do enyo, they did it wrong
Jul 17 23:10:10 <rsanchez1> anyway, right now I just really want a way to scroll to a specific row in a list
Jul 17 23:10:28 <rsanchez1> VirtualList, that is
Jul 17 23:11:39 <rsanchez1> and the method tibfib posted in the forums just is not good for me
Jul 17 23:14:08 <haeffb> looks like having flash player open and not playing still sucks battery dry
Jul 17 23:14:41 <haeffb> rsanchez1: didn't work for me, either, and I don't have a solution
Jul 17 23:15:15 <rsanchez1> I'm sure I can get it to work, but I just don't like it
Jul 17 23:15:56 <rsanchez1> you shouldn't need to keep track of two numbers to navigate a one-dimensional structure
Jul 17 23:22:28 <whatfield> rsanchez1:  did you try this.$.virtuallist.$.scroller.adjustTop(x)?
Jul 17 23:26:11 <rsanchez1> that works fine when you scroll to something on the screen, but goes crazy when you want to scroll past the bottom of the screen
Jul 17 23:27:24 <rsanchez1> actually, scratch the part about it working fine
Jul 17 23:27:31 <whatfield> even if you adjustBottom(x)  as well as do  this.$.virtuallist.$.scroller.top=x
Jul 17 23:27:53 <whatfield> & this....bottom=...
Jul 17 23:29:10 <rsanchez1> do adjustBottom AND set top at the same time??
Jul 17 23:29:23 <whatfield> yeah...
Jul 17 23:29:30 <rsanchez1> remember, this is a virtual list, not a virtual repeater
Jul 17 23:30:09 <whatfield> for mine I know how many items are going to appear on screen so I do top=x  & bottom =x+6
Jul 17 23:30:54 <whatfield> all 4 actions:  adjustTop & adjustbottom    top=  & bottom =
Jul 17 23:31:09 <whatfield> preferably in that order
Jul 17 23:33:58 <cxreg> webos wobbles but it wont fall down
Jul 17 23:40:10 <haeffb> HP just needs to fix the VIrtualList to support scrollTo
Jul 17 23:40:22 <haeffb> and reorderable
Jul 17 23:40:46 <whatfield> reorderable would be nice
Jul 17 23:40:51 <haeffb> because this.$.virtuallist.$.scroller is un-enyolike
Jul 17 23:40:58 <whatfield> as well as scrollto
Jul 17 23:41:22 <sugardave> no double $s :/
Jul 17 23:41:34 <haeffb> so, sugardave, get it fixed!
Jul 17 23:41:59 <haeffb> you've been there three weeks, how come all this isn't done yet?!?!?!?
Jul 17 23:42:06 <whatfield> yeah. tho since it's built in it's always there
Jul 17 23:42:37 <sugardave> make a custom VirtualList kind that passes that method to the internal scroller
Jul 17 23:43:30 <haeffb> yeah, or HP could fix the VIrtualList
Jul 17 23:43:30 <whatfield> ?? how?
Jul 17 23:43:43 <whatfield> I agree
Jul 17 23:44:03 <sugardave> whatfield: enyo.kind({name: "myList", kind: enyo.VirtualList...});  etc.
Jul 17 23:47:59 <sugardave> haeffb: which one will happen faster?
Jul 17 23:48:26 <haeffb> "in the coming months" ... I know.
Jul 17 23:51:25 <whatfield> sugardave:  you could just use that code in virtuallist already & then you wouldn't have to create a custom kind :P
Jul 17 23:51:52 <whatfield> map it to virtuallist.scrollTo...
Jul 17 23:52:51 <whatfield> although it needs some animation to be honest...
Jul 17 23:53:47 <funkatron> hate hate hate
Jul 17 23:53:50 <funkatron> hate hate hate hate
Jul 17 23:54:06 <rwhitby> funkatron: that's a lot of hate
Jul 17 23:54:22 <rwhitby> who's the latest target of your ire?
Jul 17 23:56:47 <funkatron> haha
Jul 17 23:57:04 <funkatron> I was thinking about the Haters Club
Jul 17 23:58:01 <whatfield> just fyi:  if you didn't know the length of the virtuallist on screen  you should be able to find it by going this.$.virtuallist.$.scroller.getBottom() - this.$.virtuallist.$.scroller.getTop() first
Jul 18 00:01:40 <funkatron> if folks are interested, I posted info on getting Spaz HD test builds at http://groups.google.com/group/spaz-mobile-dev
Jul 18 00:02:54 <funkatron> rwhitby: I have an application that I am pretty sure I cannot release through the app cat due to content stuff (it's an UrbanDictionary lookup app). Is that something I can release thruogh Preware?
Jul 18 00:03:35 <funkatron> I'm off for a few, but I'll leave this up to read responses 8)
Jul 18 00:16:58 <rwhitby> funkatron: sure
Jul 18 01:20:33 <funkatron> rwhitby: what would the process be?
Jul 18 01:39:23 <rwhitby> funkatron: easiest way is to submit it to the PreCentral homebrew gallery
Jul 18 01:39:33 <funkatron> ah, okay
Jul 18 01:39:44 <funkatron> will do then. in the forums, rwhitby?
Jul 18 01:40:03 <rwhitby> there's a special announcement post somewhere with a video which shows how to do it
Jul 18 01:40:13 <funkatron> video.
Jul 18 01:40:18 <funkatron> :staredog:
Jul 18 01:42:25 <rwhitby> funkatron: I can't seem to put my fingers on it immediately.
Jul 18 01:42:28 * rwhitby bbl
Jul 18 01:42:37 <funkatron> no worries, will pursue when I can. thx
Jul 18 02:57:29 * halfhalo-hotel is bored bored bored
Jul 18 02:57:57 <dkirker> :(
Jul 18 02:58:15 * dkirker gets to drive back to the South Bay soon...
Jul 18 02:59:34 <halfhalo-hotel> oh? from?
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