**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Sun Jul 24 02:59:56 2011 Jul 24 03:23:34 hey all Jul 24 03:25:22 * fxspec06 kicks PatrickC in the balls Jul 24 03:25:24 hi pat Jul 24 03:25:30 ow! Jul 24 03:25:43 i would say Jul 24 03:25:45 don't work retail Jul 24 03:25:48 retail sucks Jul 24 03:25:53 but if you need a job then do it Jul 24 03:25:56 I might be a tech.. Jul 24 03:25:57 :) Jul 24 03:26:07 one of the techs said I knew more then her haha Jul 24 03:26:12 well Jul 24 03:26:17 that doesn't guarantee a job Jul 24 03:26:32 i clearly know more than like anyone at any specific VZW store Jul 24 03:26:37 I don't *need* a job Jul 24 03:26:42 but does that mean i get a job? nope Jul 24 03:26:46 oh.. I see what you are saying now Jul 24 03:26:54 its a new store that's opening soon Jul 24 03:27:00 they have *no* techs yet Jul 24 03:27:11 i'm clearly better worker than most people at most retail jobs. but would they hire me? most likely not because i would come off as cocky to most Jul 24 03:27:26 i know i'm good though and i don't settle for little. Jul 24 03:27:28 lol Jul 24 03:27:41 I'll settle for a job period :% Jul 24 03:27:43 :) * Jul 24 03:27:49 lol Jul 24 03:27:54 i have downloads! Jul 24 03:28:01 not like, downloads downloads. just fake downloads Jul 24 03:28:10 imaginary downloads for now Jul 24 03:28:10 :) Jul 24 03:28:33 your a White Sox fan? Jul 24 03:28:39 red sox fan Jul 24 03:28:41 * PatrickC runs and hides Jul 24 03:28:43 who are the white sox? Jul 24 03:28:52 * fxspec06 has never heard of white socks Jul 24 03:29:12 I thought they were a baseball team? Jul 24 03:30:06 they are Jul 24 03:30:11 lol Jul 24 03:30:19 any idea why something would run fine on the pre but not on the touchpad Jul 24 03:30:30 trying to get html5 audio to work. but no sound on touchpad Jul 24 03:30:36 hrmm.. Jul 24 03:30:39 no clue Jul 24 03:30:41 it hates you and all that you stand for? Jul 24 03:30:57 i only stand for a little while Jul 24 03:34:26 * dwc- has bad feet too Jul 24 03:34:29 so how'd sprint contact you? Jul 24 03:40:46 at the store Jul 24 03:40:52 Fxspec06: my sound sometimes stops on my tp Jul 24 03:40:57 when we were getting my dads phone replaced Jul 24 03:41:21 I know the sprint reps/techs pretty well lol Jul 24 03:41:33 we are in there at least once a month.. they know me by name Jul 24 03:41:55 and say "Not again, what happened this time?" when I walk in :) Jul 24 03:43:03 lol Jul 24 03:43:11 do they know you're like. 15 Jul 24 03:43:16 yes Jul 24 03:43:18 or did you turn 16 this weekend Jul 24 03:43:30 I turn 16 in feb Jul 24 03:43:31 do i get to see you on MTV? on my sweet 16? Jul 24 03:43:40 more importantly, do they know you don't know journey? Jul 24 03:43:52 its not an actual sprint store, its owned by Cellular Concepts Jul 24 03:44:00 You don't know Journey? Jul 24 03:44:05 halfhalo: umm.. I don't listen to that kind of music... Jul 24 03:44:08 you don't know JOURNEY?! Jul 24 03:44:11 why would I know the artists Jul 24 03:44:21 Classics Jul 24 03:44:40 i've probably heard the songs Jul 24 03:44:47 but I don't know the artists Jul 24 03:44:59 journey should be required learning material. Jul 24 03:45:12 aaand what did journey teach you Jul 24 03:45:13 Don't stop believing, you'll learn them eventually ;-) Jul 24 03:45:24 for home schoolers? :) Jul 24 03:45:41 hold on to that feee-leeeeeeen Jul 24 03:45:58 * PatrickC reminds everyone that he doesn't go to real school Jul 24 03:46:07 Shh I was being subtle Jul 24 03:46:17 * fxspec06 reminds everyone that he went to a fake private catholic school Jul 24 03:46:25 lol Jul 24 03:46:32 * fxspec06 where they teach Journey as a honors class Jul 24 03:46:35 * halfhalo went to public school. lausd ftw Jul 24 03:46:38 * twbbas-tp reminds everyone he went to an average school Jul 24 03:46:42 i've seen fake private Christian schools :/ Jul 24 03:46:59 mine was made of plastic. and sponsored by fisher price Jul 24 03:47:02 I went to a small, *real* christian school for a year Jul 24 03:47:05 hahaha Jul 24 03:47:08 i have no idea how i ended up the way i did Jul 24 03:48:06 I went to a christian preschool. that was enough for me Jul 24 03:48:53 Lol. Jesus fingerpainting got to you Jul 24 03:49:03 lol Jul 24 03:49:58 i should have stayed back in preschool Jul 24 03:50:07 i was borderline Jul 24 03:50:14 * PatrickC failed preschool.. twice Jul 24 03:50:16 i ended up being the youngest kid in my grade Jul 24 03:50:27 (j/k) haha Jul 24 03:52:20 i don't ever want to work retail ever agai Jul 24 03:52:41 pat -- don't do it Jul 24 03:52:46 be bigger than sprint Jul 24 03:52:49 be a developer Jul 24 03:52:53 yeah! Jul 24 03:53:01 you work for ppl who use you Jul 24 03:53:14 and don't give a flying hoot about your well-being Jul 24 03:53:27 and that's better than retail! Jul 24 03:53:37 Noooo. Infiltrate Sprint's ranks and brainwash them into wanting webOS! Jul 24 03:53:38 unless Steve Sprint is your firsthand boss Jul 24 03:54:20 screw the ranking system. why wouldn't you want to work for yourself Jul 24 03:54:25 then you create your own ranking system Jul 24 03:56:59 actually, I think everyone shoudl work retail for a bit Jul 24 03:57:14 ^ Jul 24 03:57:15 true that. Jul 24 03:57:19 then maybe they'll be less of a jackass when they're a customer Jul 24 03:57:30 trueeee that Jul 24 03:57:36 and it teaches you some people skills and diplomacy Jul 24 03:57:41 ^ Jul 24 03:57:45 ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Jul 24 03:58:09 lol Jul 24 03:58:10 brb Jul 24 04:02:29 bah. diplomacy. Jul 24 04:03:19 overrated, but necessary Jul 24 04:03:50 whaddup fellas Jul 24 04:04:11 nothing! we were just talking about you Jul 24 04:04:28 it's not like I just joined, I have a day's worth of transcript Jul 24 04:04:29 lol Jul 24 04:04:38 lol Jul 24 04:04:44 lies Jul 24 04:05:16 but can you read the days worth of transcript? o.O Jul 24 04:05:32 I'd rather not Jul 24 04:05:33 lol Jul 24 04:05:50 I spent all day watching C libraries compile Jul 24 04:05:54 my temper is short Jul 24 04:05:55 lol Jul 24 04:05:57 you should go back to about 3pm Jul 24 04:06:05 and read webosnewbie Jul 24 04:06:10 cool kid Jul 24 04:06:10 I saw that Jul 24 04:06:13 I was lurkin' Jul 24 04:06:16 lol Jul 24 04:06:20 hah Jul 24 04:06:28 he's 12? Jul 24 04:06:32 12 Jul 24 04:06:36 big ole twelve Jul 24 04:06:37 damn. Jul 24 04:06:42 prodigal Jul 24 04:06:47 so a little older then PatrickC? Jul 24 04:06:52 ^ Jul 24 04:06:54 lol Jul 24 04:06:55 yeah a lil older lol Jul 24 04:07:50 instead of taking geometry, he's taking intro advanced addition & subtraction Jul 24 04:08:25 lolol Jul 24 04:08:35 doing those 3 digit numbers, eh Jul 24 04:09:06 psh. i was dividing in my head by 3rd grade, when everyone else was having problems writing things out Jul 24 04:09:20 we had multiplication table contests in my 3rd grade Jul 24 04:09:29 winners got ice cream sundaes Jul 24 04:09:47 i was doing ---longggggggg division--- in my head in 3rd grade Jul 24 04:09:48 I always had a hard time with 9s Jul 24 04:09:50 winners in mine got recess while everyone else had to do practice problems Jul 24 04:09:55 9s were the easiest Jul 24 04:10:01 7s are easiest for me Jul 24 04:10:02 football! Jul 24 04:10:13 7s are pretty e z. 9s are CAKE Jul 24 04:10:16 and then they had to go and make some of them 8s! Jul 24 04:10:18 9s are cake Jul 24 04:10:21 lol Jul 24 04:10:30 anything up to 12 is easy Jul 24 04:10:33 :O Jul 24 04:10:38 we only had to go to 10 Jul 24 04:10:41 well, 9 Jul 24 04:10:44 10 too easy Jul 24 04:10:45 lol Jul 24 04:10:46 IGNTNUNLMTD: that's gross! Jul 24 04:10:53 rofl Jul 24 04:10:54 dang fxspec06 Jul 24 04:10:55 no. Jul 24 04:11:03 lolololol Jul 24 04:11:09 I just re-read this convo Jul 24 04:11:12 with that in my mind Jul 24 04:11:13 I think you mean "trololololo Jul 24 04:11:20 * halfhalo would have cheated for ice cream Jul 24 04:11:29 hahahaha Jul 24 04:11:34 ends justify the means Jul 24 04:11:42 true that Jul 24 04:11:46 we had all the toppings and stuff Jul 24 04:11:53 wow you lucky guys Jul 24 04:12:05 that's what happens in public school ^^ Jul 24 04:12:13 i should call up my 3rd grade teacher Jul 24 04:12:28 you have her #? Playaaaa Jul 24 04:12:29 he loved me so much he purposely moved grades to teach me in 6th grade Jul 24 04:12:33 oh... he Jul 24 04:12:44 nice Jul 24 04:12:50 i was the special kid. i sat in the side of the room all year long and played sticky-bear math Jul 24 04:12:59 lol what's that Jul 24 04:13:00 i got to like level 37 Jul 24 04:13:14 it's a game for like a 1980's mac Jul 24 04:13:17 on a floppy Jul 24 04:13:19 haha Jul 24 04:13:25 gotta blow that dust off Jul 24 04:13:28 lol Jul 24 04:13:47 i promise i set like the world record for that game Jul 24 04:13:52 fxspec06: you're my age, right? Jul 24 04:13:53 lol Jul 24 04:13:54 for a 3rd grader Jul 24 04:14:00 er i'm 22 Jul 24 04:14:04 ah, 21 here Jul 24 04:14:09 i'll be almost 23 by the meetup Jul 24 04:14:17 which you won't be at! Jul 24 04:14:18 <- less than 22 but more than PatrickC Jul 24 04:14:19 * fxspec06 shakes fist Jul 24 04:14:20 :-( Jul 24 04:14:23 don't rub it in Jul 24 04:14:33 * halfhalo turns 21 in time for ces Jul 24 04:14:37 NICE Jul 24 04:14:45 I still say we do an unofficial one where we get drunk and bitch about the haters Jul 24 04:14:47 evening folks Jul 24 04:14:50 is ces even still relevant? Jul 24 04:14:52 YEAH Jul 24 04:14:55 lets do it Jul 24 04:14:59 \o/ Jul 24 04:15:03 when i get my first paycheck Jul 24 04:15:03 ces has open bars Jul 24 04:15:09 nice Jul 24 04:15:13 whereabouts you live? Jul 24 04:15:15 drunk nerds ftw Jul 24 04:15:21 lol Jul 24 04:15:25 charlton Jul 24 04:15:29 drunk nerds and over priced devices ftw Jul 24 04:15:34 and models :D Jul 24 04:15:34 right off exit 10 on ma pike Jul 24 04:16:00 beginning / end of 395/290 Jul 24 04:16:03 oh shit... that's like... the middle of nowhere Jul 24 04:16:04 lol Jul 24 04:16:14 pretty much Jul 24 04:16:15 do you make it to Boston a lot? Jul 24 04:16:24 it's just outside of worcester Jul 24 04:16:28 i did when i had a car Jul 24 04:16:31 right, I used to row in Worcester Jul 24 04:16:33 my car isn't registered Jul 24 04:16:37 =\ Jul 24 04:16:45 it's getting rusty Jul 24 04:16:48 scary Jul 24 04:16:53 it's good on gas too. Jul 24 04:16:55 mopeds are the future Jul 24 04:16:58 lol Jul 24 04:17:18 I'm enjoying gas while it lasts Jul 24 04:17:19 lol Jul 24 04:17:53 someone needs to invent wind-powered car Jul 24 04:17:57 it fuels itself! Jul 24 04:18:07 nah they just need to put magnets under the highways Jul 24 04:18:12 that assist propelling cars Jul 24 04:18:22 and/or charge the batteries as you go Jul 24 04:18:39 or put a giant magnet on a stick in front of the car. like the carrot on the stick idea ;D Jul 24 04:18:48 so the car pulls itself :D Jul 24 04:18:59 that only works if the car is hungry Jul 24 04:19:00 haha Jul 24 04:19:16 my car is thirsty Jul 24 04:19:23 I dunno about hungry Jul 24 04:19:24 http://img.chan4chan.com/img/2010-05-10/1273520839004.png Jul 24 04:19:38 rofl Jul 24 04:19:39 LOL Jul 24 04:19:44 i've seen that one Jul 24 04:19:58 yeah, that totally works Jul 24 04:20:02 for sure Jul 24 04:20:04 .............................................................. Jul 24 04:20:13 fuck physics, it just WORKS. Jul 24 04:20:28 E&M physics... *shudder* Jul 24 04:20:29 v = d * t Jul 24 04:20:42 a = d * t. idk Jul 24 04:20:52 a = f * u / idfc Jul 24 04:21:10 hmm I don't know that expression Jul 24 04:21:44 idk physics was cool. but it made me think. Jul 24 04:22:09 it made me think WAY too hard Jul 24 04:22:29 and that's only newtonian! Jul 24 04:23:02 lol Jul 24 04:23:27 I liked newtonian Jul 24 04:23:31 but E&M was scary Jul 24 04:23:52 a coworker of mine has a PhD in E&M fields.. pretty smart guy Jul 24 04:24:43 shit Jul 24 04:24:48 what does he do? Jul 24 04:24:52 my physics teacher was awesome. like awesome awesome. she was also the AP calc and AP physics teacher, right. well she quit my JR year in HS. so she wasn't teaching AP classes when i became a sr. so i said. screw this. i'm not learning from someone who's teaching this for the FIRST YEAR Jul 24 04:25:13 he does bitch work, unfortunately .. kind of a sad scenario Jul 24 04:25:47 * PatrickC is done with his friends dogs... Jul 24 04:25:49 i regret it tho. i should have just taken them. Jul 24 04:25:57 i'll never learn calculus now Jul 24 04:26:11 * fxspec06 looks at the calculus book he bought on his own in his closet collecting dust Jul 24 04:26:12 I learned my physics from a caltech prof Jul 24 04:26:30 my bio-trained physics teacher in hs showed the videos Jul 24 04:26:46 PatrickC: in keeping with tonight's misinterpretation of sentences, that could be taken dirty-like Jul 24 04:26:48 lol Jul 24 04:26:56 lol Jul 24 04:26:57 wait, there's a clean way? Jul 24 04:27:02 omg i didn't even see his sentence Jul 24 04:27:03 hahah Jul 24 04:27:05 * halfhalo took environmental science ap in hs. Jul 24 04:27:05 there is NO clean way Jul 24 04:27:08 rofl Jul 24 04:27:12 NEVER EVER EVER TAKE IT Jul 24 04:27:21 lol Jul 24 04:27:27 I'm watching my friends 2 golden retrivers... they have Cooper in the house 3 times in 2 days >:( Jul 24 04:27:42 wow PatrickC my pimp dawg Jul 24 04:27:49 s/cooper/pooped/ haha Jul 24 04:27:51 don't you mean dog pimp? Jul 24 04:27:53 goldens ftw Jul 24 04:27:54 stupid autocorrect Jul 24 04:28:27 stupid user! Jul 24 04:28:33 lol Jul 24 04:28:36 ebuak Jul 24 04:28:44 ^ fxspec06 :P Jul 24 04:29:14 PEBKAC Jul 24 04:29:26 it always does Jul 24 04:29:40 problem exists between keyboard and ? Jul 24 04:29:55 chair Jul 24 04:29:59 lol Jul 24 04:30:02 haha Jul 24 04:30:22 yes Jul 24 04:30:37 I'm off to bed Jul 24 04:30:39 night Jul 24 04:30:43 gah, slow night on Turntable :-/ Jul 24 04:30:51 oh, IGNTNUNLMTD, I might get a job at sprint Jul 24 04:30:55 later PatrickC Jul 24 04:30:56 orly Jul 24 04:31:00 doing what? Jul 24 04:31:07 idk yet Jul 24 04:31:11 cleaning the floors w/ a toothbrush Jul 24 04:31:15 leaking us Pre3 info, one would hope Jul 24 04:31:19 the tech said she has to talk to her boss... Jul 24 04:31:26 even though I'm a VZW customer Jul 24 04:31:27 see if they can hire at my age :) Jul 24 04:31:35 child labor Jul 24 04:31:36 lol Jul 24 04:31:40 i like it Jul 24 04:32:09 yeah Jul 24 04:32:11 Publix/Walmart/McDonalds hires at 14 Jul 24 04:32:11 and so does Chick-Fil-A Jul 24 04:32:23 maybe sprint will make an exception for someone who knows more then the average tech ;) Jul 24 04:32:25 PatrickC: be careful Jul 24 04:32:32 fxspec06: what do ya mean? Jul 24 04:32:34 i got a job at a mini golf course when i was 14 Jul 24 04:32:40 a ROCK knows more than an average tech Jul 24 04:32:44 and they fired me after 4 days because i was too immature Jul 24 04:32:49 well.. I'm 15.. so no worries :) Jul 24 04:33:03 with that attitude... worry Jul 24 04:33:07 lol Jul 24 04:33:12 I was kidding... Jul 24 04:33:17 lol well Jul 24 04:33:23 jobs are serious things man. Jul 24 04:33:30 I know Jul 24 04:33:32 just like high school Jul 24 04:33:34 SEERIUZ BIZNUZ Jul 24 04:33:39 and dawson's creek Jul 24 04:33:41 rofl Jul 24 04:33:43 lol Jul 24 04:34:04 * PatrickC is off to bed Jul 24 04:34:07 Hello! Jul 24 04:34:08 night all.. forealz Jul 24 04:34:14 hey AHelper3 Jul 24 04:34:18 night AHelper3 :) Jul 24 04:34:23 l8er Jul 24 04:35:12 I guess I can ask webos questions here? Jul 24 04:35:17 indeed Jul 24 04:35:21 yessir Jul 24 04:35:23 ^.^ Jul 24 04:35:25 yep Jul 24 04:35:28 night Jul 24 04:35:28 we're the guys to ask Jul 24 04:35:40 'cept him, because he went to bed Jul 24 04:35:47 I dream in card view though Jul 24 04:35:52 well yeah. it'd be kinda hard to ask him Jul 24 04:35:58 i dream in semicolons Jul 24 04:35:58 Is there an equiv. to mojo's getCursorPosition in enyo? Jul 24 04:37:22 h.o leme see Jul 24 04:38:10 you should be able to use the same code to get it working. but leme see if there's an equiv Jul 24 04:39:05 (for a RichText) Jul 24 04:40:46 enyo events Jul 24 04:40:52 mouseDetails ? Jul 24 04:41:08 :-? Need to find that... Jul 24 04:41:26 do you have the API? Jul 24 04:41:32 enyo, yes Jul 24 04:41:47 i don't think that's what you're looking for. i'm going through the API trying to find something similar Jul 24 04:42:09 palm/tellurium/enyo-events.js Jul 24 04:44:21 I see it, but which part would I use? Jul 24 04:44:34 pageX/Y? Jul 24 04:50:09 no those are booleans Jul 24 04:50:12 sorry Jul 24 04:50:14 :-\ Jul 24 04:50:32 The docs did say that I could use the DOM selection API, but I can't find info on it... Jul 24 04:51:10 _findTarget: function(inNode, inX, inY) Jul 24 04:51:15 at the top Jul 24 04:51:18 dom.js Jul 24 04:51:52 function _findTarget(inNode, inX, inY){} Jul 24 04:52:00 or _findTarget: function(inNode, inX, inY) Jul 24 04:52:02 yeah Jul 24 04:52:10 try that Jul 24 04:53:44 hmm... Jul 24 04:58:29 _findTarget seems like it just gets a node that contains the points inX,inY Jul 24 04:58:36 (from dom/dom.js) Jul 24 04:58:58 oh Jul 24 04:59:18 i'm sorry it's really late Jul 24 05:00:19 enyo.gesture Jul 24 05:00:28 looking Jul 24 05:02:38 in my defense the API isn't exactly well documented Jul 24 05:04:30 i'm not sure if there is an enyo equivilant. i am sure that you should be able to use the Mojo command just fine for now. i'm sorry i couldn't help you but i'm off to bed Jul 24 05:04:35 keep trying you'll get it Jul 24 05:04:51 ah well... Jul 24 05:05:05 post a question in the forums Jul 24 05:05:05 I will try to find a way to use mojo (as I don't know how to use it ATM) Jul 24 05:05:16 maybe chuqi or unwiredben is up Jul 24 05:05:19 I would post in the forum, but I can't register Jul 24 05:05:27 keeps failing -_- Jul 24 05:05:30 why not? Jul 24 05:05:31 oh Jul 24 05:05:45 then come back later. someone will help you i'm sure Jul 24 05:05:51 yup Jul 24 05:07:22 For now, I will just dig around the enyo source to see how the input handles key presses and cursor stuffs Jul 24 05:13:41 hmm, the basicrichtext is just an html5 node with contenteditable. I think I can get the cursor through that Jul 24 05:24:00 got it Jul 24 05:47:44 somewhat Jul 24 07:18:37 hey ...how can i check my current virtual box version in windows? Jul 24 08:51:34 is there an opera browser for webos yet? Jul 24 09:49:24 i wonder if HP is prepared to step up their game when the court shuts android down Jul 24 09:50:32 ah who am i kidding, i know they're not Jul 24 10:00:19 i don't think android is gooing down Jul 24 12:10:52 A wounderful hello to you! Jul 24 12:11:11 Hey Jul 24 12:11:21 how are you hotdp Jul 24 12:11:44 I am fine thank you, and you? Jul 24 12:12:27 good :) trying to get some feedback about reviewtomail ( http://bit.ly/reviewtomail ) Jul 24 12:13:05 did it not give alot that it got retweeted? Jul 24 12:13:28 not really :( Jul 24 12:13:34 hmm Jul 24 12:13:37 thought it would.. Jul 24 12:13:41 me too Jul 24 12:15:13 so what are you up to? Jul 24 12:16:08 I am going to work on my enyo app when i have finshed avideo game or to :P Jul 24 12:16:19 video game? Jul 24 12:16:27 some hints? Jul 24 12:17:07 Computer game Jul 24 12:17:11 on my pc :PÅ Jul 24 12:17:28 oh not development but playing? Jul 24 12:17:41 will soon start to develop a video game for web.. Jul 24 12:17:52 cool Jul 24 12:18:22 compatible with touchpad, ipad, iOS, android, webos.. Jul 24 12:18:42 and any other browser :) Jul 24 12:19:44 Cool Jul 24 12:19:50 I am working alot with Sencha Touch Jul 24 12:20:08 It will be great when it works 100% with tp Jul 24 12:20:15 but its only like 80% now Jul 24 12:20:23 They need to implement more from the webkit Jul 24 12:20:30 (they = hp) Jul 24 12:20:39 Sench Touch? I will have to look at that Jul 24 12:20:58 Its just a crossplatform js framework Jul 24 12:21:10 I don't think it will give you anything with the game Jul 24 12:21:16 but maybe the things around it Jul 24 12:21:56 no I will use a lot of canvas Jul 24 12:22:06 canvas is great Jul 24 12:23:26 will be a table game Jul 24 12:23:43 center piece will be a tablet and then the personal controller will be a phone.. Jul 24 12:23:58 hmm Jul 24 12:24:02 is it one player? Jul 24 12:24:08 no Jul 24 12:24:10 family game Jul 24 12:24:33 so many phone and one taplet? Jul 24 12:24:37 (one pr player) Jul 24 12:25:10 one web enabled phone a month Jul 24 12:25:14 per person Jul 24 12:25:16 not month :D Jul 24 12:25:25 and one tablet Jul 24 12:27:46 so good for a techy family like ours :D Jul 24 12:27:51 or my group of friends Jul 24 12:55:16 i seee Jul 24 12:56:20 all my friends have ipod touches, android devices, iphones or pres Jul 24 13:29:40 brilliant idea. And the one guy who rocks a blackberry has to just sit and watch everyone else play Jul 24 13:30:06 i belive blackberry can run canvas? Jul 24 13:30:09 (the new versions) Jul 24 14:08:48 maybe, but it'd still be fun to exclude them Jul 24 14:15:23 i see your point haeffb ;) Jul 24 14:44:29 weeeeeeee Jul 24 14:44:42 Are you done? Jul 24 14:44:49 with what? Jul 24 14:44:53 the game? Jul 24 14:44:54 the game ? :D Jul 24 14:44:54 nooo Jul 24 14:45:01 that will take a couple days Jul 24 14:45:11 and I don't have time currently :( Jul 24 14:45:13 wee what then? Jul 24 14:45:43 I am glad to be back feels like I am among friends Jul 24 14:46:09 Back? Jul 24 14:46:14 Where have you been? Jul 24 14:47:09 I was at my parents and visited my cats Jul 24 14:47:15 good to be home Jul 24 14:47:20 for an hour Jul 24 14:47:22 :) Jul 24 14:47:28 and then get back and lay on your own couch Jul 24 14:49:46 are there any new non touchpad apps that are well designed? Jul 24 14:50:13 Feels like hp/palm can't focus on 2 thins at the same time but rather switch back and forth Jul 24 14:55:16 :/ I really don't want to install java on my machine again :/ Jul 24 14:55:27 but without it the emulator won't run Jul 24 15:06:29 Playing with Balsamiq Mockups to mockup the game controls :) Jul 24 15:33:16 can someone tell me how big the viewing angle is? Jul 24 15:33:57 if you lay if flat on a table can you see it from the side? Jul 24 15:34:25 you can, but it gets dim Jul 24 15:34:58 but not bad, if I turn up the brightness. Probably at about 20 degrees right now Jul 24 15:35:58 I want to set it on the table and want everyone to be able to see the "playing board" Jul 24 16:07:11 I have a Palm Pre which was sent to my company as a review device. Is there any way to unlock it to use it on any network? Jul 24 16:07:23 through the carrier Jul 24 16:07:45 Tommy: Yeah, I'm just off the phone with them Jul 24 16:07:52 They won't for a review device :-/ Jul 24 16:08:04 ooohh Jul 24 16:08:07 have you tried ebay? Jul 24 16:08:16 some are real cheap, $1-5 for an unlock code Jul 24 16:08:30 yeah, I suppose that's what I'll have to do :-/ Jul 24 16:25:47 review device with lock? Jul 24 16:27:02 thomaschaaf: yeah Jul 24 16:28:44 ask the company who provided it to unlock or give you a sim? Jul 24 16:34:07 yeah, we went through that Jul 24 16:34:14 they'll "get back to me" Jul 24 16:35:12 just use wifi :P Jul 24 16:35:14 lol Jul 24 16:36:43 any one know where the db8 databases are stored Jul 24 16:36:49 i want to delete the one fro my app Jul 24 16:40:29 I wish palm would use couchdb Jul 24 16:42:01 ? Jul 24 16:42:04 you can just use it? Jul 24 16:42:26 hotdp, is that really a question? Jul 24 16:57:23 PuffTheMagic: its ONE db8 database Jul 24 16:57:59 PuffTheMagic just delete it with SQL Jul 24 16:58:24 no files to delete :) Jul 24 16:58:32 there must be a file to delete Jul 24 16:58:44 PuffTheMagic: well may delete more than you want Jul 24 16:58:47 there is ONE db8 database for the device Jul 24 16:58:52 oh Jul 24 16:58:54 boo Jul 24 16:58:54 what if phone stuff is stored in there? Jul 24 16:59:07 yeah, boo Jul 24 16:59:19 not only that, but even if there is multiple files, they're not always safe to delete Jul 24 16:59:28 e.g. don't try that with mysql/innodb/file_per_table Jul 24 16:59:33 thomaschaaf: phone stuff, email, contacts, .... Jul 24 17:01:01 will merge create new entries or will it just update existing entries Jul 24 17:05:04 Anyone happen to know if there's any way to slow down the emulator? Jul 24 17:05:30 It's way faster than the actual device for me, would be a bit simpler to test stuff if it reflected reality a bit better with regards to performance :D Jul 24 17:05:44 thats why i hate the emu Jul 24 17:06:08 get a slower computer? :P Jul 24 17:06:11 It's probably still the best dev tool I've seen for any platform to date despite some minor flaws Jul 24 17:06:52 dwc-: hur :P Jul 24 17:07:19 Hm, I wonder if I could disable the hardware virtualization support from it... that might slow it down a bit Jul 24 17:07:36 Since that would mean virtualbox wouldn't use my CPU's virtualization features Jul 24 17:08:24 probably Jul 24 17:15:30 * AHelper3 stabs the cursor selection >.> Jul 24 17:17:04 haeffb, no matter if i use merge or put the size of my db keeps increasing, how am I supposed to update an existing record? Jul 24 17:18:23 ... this is odd Jul 24 17:19:13 I force a RichText to focus (forceFocus), but it doesn't focus, but I can still type in it Jul 24 17:19:18 does anyone know a pretty dice roll animation? Jul 24 17:19:45 PuffTheMagic and matbee: I made a mistake thought i was thinking on lawnchair :D Jul 24 17:19:47 AHelper3: on webOS 2.1 I noticed that too.. Jul 24 17:20:17 Is there a proper (-ish) way to focus it? Or is forceFocus the best way? Jul 24 17:23:51 actually has anyone seed a great dice roll animation ever? Jul 24 17:24:24 (Only in 3D using real-time physics) Jul 24 17:24:39 even there they look like well not realistic Jul 24 17:25:12 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hr8iI576BY8&NR=1 every dice animation is like that.. Jul 24 17:25:18 what dice moves THAT slow? Jul 24 17:26:11 they probably slowed the time simulation for you so you could better appreciate their geniusness ;) Jul 24 17:29:24 hmm I guess I will have to think of something easier for JS Jul 24 17:32:11 how could I display a dice roll without a LOT of work Jul 24 17:32:33 a 3d animation seems a bit much - especially because no one will care Jul 24 17:32:35 animated gif? Jul 24 17:32:50 You could just spin a picture of a dice around using CSS transitions Jul 24 17:32:53 or something Jul 24 17:32:54 well I was thinking of a different way to "roll" Jul 24 17:33:28 I guess display 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 1, 2, 3,.. and make the changes a bit slower each time Jul 24 17:34:00 you can use canvas and draw it out Jul 24 17:34:35 maybe like at a casino Jul 24 17:34:39 the things that turn Jul 24 17:34:46 slot machine reels? Jul 24 17:35:33 yep Jul 24 17:35:41 thinking about how to implement them though Jul 24 17:36:57 maybe instead of sequential 1-6, just random dots 1-6, shake the 2-d square container? Jul 24 17:37:09 motion blur! Jul 24 17:41:44 yep I am thinking about how to get an infinitive scroll going Jul 24 17:42:14 http://demo.marcofolio.net/slot_machine/ if hover over it Jul 24 17:42:27 and hover off and again.. that is what I wnat Jul 24 17:42:49 Infinitive scroll? Jul 24 17:42:50 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Infinitive Jul 24 17:42:53 ;) Jul 24 17:43:34 infinite :/ Jul 24 17:44:01 infinite! Jul 24 17:44:11 Hello Everyone Jul 24 17:44:20 hello Jul 24 17:44:39 hi Jul 24 17:44:59 there is no username named "everyone"... maybe he is talking to me! Hello! Jul 24 17:45:12 : Jul 24 17:45:13 :P Jul 24 17:45:31 hmm endless/infinite scroll seem to be the wrong thing to search for Jul 24 17:49:12 if anyone cares it's apparently called marquee Jul 24 17:49:43 now there is Jul 24 17:49:55 Hi CTLAdvance! Jul 24 17:50:53 :D Jul 24 17:52:51 hey Jul 24 17:54:05 wawaaaaaaa Jul 24 17:54:38 what did I do this time? Jul 24 17:54:49 everything Jul 24 17:55:00 man.. Jul 24 17:55:05 again? Jul 24 17:55:11 yup Jul 24 17:55:31 ohwell.. I guess you don't get to know about the slate webos phone sprints gonna get Jul 24 17:56:02 uh-huh Jul 24 17:56:06 :) Jul 24 17:56:13 * PatrickC might be joking Jul 24 17:56:19 see, that doesn't work on me Jul 24 17:56:25 quadruple boots webos, android, ios, windows phone 7? Jul 24 17:56:32 nope Jul 24 17:56:33 also meego Jul 24 17:56:37 only iOS/webOS Jul 24 17:56:48 none other has "OS" in the name :) Jul 24 17:56:49 they're hiring PatrickC and zacky59 Jul 24 17:56:54 and has a button that launches a missile at france Jul 24 17:56:56 NOOOOOOOOOOOOO Jul 24 17:57:15 not zacky!!!!!!! Jul 24 17:58:13 mmmm….. new monies from the atm.... Jul 24 17:58:15 mmmm….. new monies from the atm…. Jul 24 17:58:21 … mac fail Jul 24 17:58:31 lol Jul 24 17:59:30 * fxspec06 meow Jul 24 17:59:34 * halfhalo is watching goldeneye Jul 24 17:59:48 * fxspec06 is watching redSox Jul 24 17:59:53 * PatrickC is about to put lunch in the oven Jul 24 18:00:01 bah, oven Jul 24 18:00:13 I need good *free* forum sw.. Jul 24 18:00:16 not phpBB Jul 24 18:01:01 good, cheap, forum software. pick two. you can't get all three Jul 24 18:01:43 I want the best free forum sw. Jul 24 18:01:53 phpbb Jul 24 18:01:59 man.... Jul 24 18:02:02 lol Jul 24 18:02:15 I wish my server had perl.. Jul 24 18:02:37 LOL Jul 24 18:02:49 the forum Sw I want to run needs perl Jul 24 18:03:05 perl will murder you in your sleep Jul 24 18:03:25 kevin youkilis! Jul 24 18:03:35 I want YaBB Jul 24 18:04:09 and i want a new car. YOU DONT ALWAYS GET WHAT YOU WANT Jul 24 18:04:53 well, I do. Jul 24 18:05:07 I want something thats FREE !) Jul 24 18:05:10 :) * Jul 24 18:05:21 well, then, you SOL Jul 24 18:05:54 bbl Jul 24 18:05:58 lunch tine Jul 24 18:05:59 time Jul 24 18:06:08 * halfhalo has bacon for lunch Jul 24 18:10:53 wow redsox have 5 run first inning. Jul 24 18:10:55 holy. smokes. Jul 24 18:13:15 PatrickC: I really like bbPress Jul 24 18:13:20 am a real fan Jul 24 18:18:16 YES!... sorta... I finally made the cursor move ^_^ Jul 24 18:18:48 Give feedback on webOS to HP: http://www.hpwebos.com/us/company/feedback.html Jul 24 18:19:11 I'm sending in some suggestions for advanced gestures to switch between apps and to make the browser load pages without it needing to start in focus Jul 24 18:23:54 * AHelper3 should suggest getCursorPosition that doesn't require HTML canibalism Jul 24 18:26:05 * hotdp has just made is own first Old Fashioned Jul 24 18:27:21 Noo too much water :s Jul 24 18:27:51 Lol I'm sending in so many suggestions Jul 24 18:28:24 I sent in another suggestion that is about the Kindle's page-turning animations Jul 24 18:28:42 I want to have the animation start WHILE I am doing the swipe instead of doing the animation after I complete the full page-turn swipe Jul 24 18:30:03 yer Jul 24 18:30:09 offline I go.. Jul 24 18:30:10 its not so realtime when its after Jul 24 18:30:18 anybody not using reviewtomail.com USE IT" Jul 24 18:30:19 then its just "to late" Jul 24 18:30:21 I!!! Jul 24 18:30:22 com.palm.sample:1 <- whats with the :1 in all the dbKind examples? Jul 24 18:30:32 anyone know how to run windows xp on the pre? Jul 24 18:30:43 CLA... why? Jul 24 18:30:46 /kick CLU Jul 24 18:30:49 makes your like so much nicer (if you have an app with good reviews) every morning I get a mail saying I am awesome :) Jul 24 18:31:34 what's the kick for Jul 24 18:31:52 you shjould be banned for asking such nonsense Jul 24 18:32:13 CLU: it's not an x86 processor.. Jul 24 18:32:56 * twbbas just sent in a suggestion to be able to "delete" and "mark as read" from the email notifications Jul 24 18:33:08 make patch for that Jul 24 18:33:20 patches are fun! Jul 24 18:33:28 Yeah, I could but I also want HP to know that I want it Jul 24 18:33:28 ive seen videos of people running vista Jul 24 18:34:02 I really need to learn how to write patches someday Jul 24 18:34:17 I just don't even know how to set up the patch file or anything Jul 24 18:34:27 CLU: send me: Jul 24 18:34:51 also i can't get ubuntu to work on my gfs laptop to upgrade to 2.1 Jul 24 18:35:10 there is a ubuntu version for ARM Jul 24 18:35:10 lolvistaonpre Jul 24 18:35:25 CLU: please send me that video Jul 24 18:35:49 its on youtube type vista on palm pre Jul 24 18:36:18 * AHelper3 doesn't want to comment about XP embedded for ARM Jul 24 18:36:25 CLU, its bullshit Jul 24 18:36:30 at most its vnc Jul 24 18:36:33 ohh ok Jul 24 18:36:44 how about this upgrade to 2.1 Jul 24 18:36:56 lol! Jul 24 18:37:00 no Jul 24 18:37:09 it's a js Jul 24 18:37:14 which first loads a gif Jul 24 18:37:19 then a picture Jul 24 18:37:23 he does not even show it running Jul 24 18:37:36 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9OAm_wD5DT0 I can do that in 5 minutes Jul 24 18:38:40 lol Jul 24 18:39:00 actually now I want to create a stupid app which does just that Jul 24 18:39:20 but not enough 10 year olds to make a profit Jul 24 18:39:33 haha Jul 24 18:40:02 on ios probably good money in there.. Jul 24 18:40:18 millions Jul 24 18:40:55 lol, so can some one explain what i could be doing wrong with ubuntu? Jul 24 18:41:16 CLU: you did not give details yet Jul 24 18:41:18 well this is the wrong chan for that, go to #webos-internals Jul 24 18:42:32 i installed it and restarted windows as it says. but didn't give me the option to boot in ubuntu :s im new to all this Jul 24 18:42:49 they don't answer my q's Jul 24 18:42:52 CLU, go to #webos-internals Jul 24 18:43:14 they don't tlk in there Jul 24 18:43:38 this isnt 24h live support chat Jul 24 18:43:43 when people are around they talk Jul 24 18:43:45 you might have to wait Jul 24 18:44:08 ive been waiting 2 days, Jul 24 18:51:19 ? Jul 24 18:57:57 wtf Jul 24 18:58:26 CLU has left the building Jul 24 18:58:46 lol Jul 24 18:59:02 its was pretty wierd Jul 24 18:59:16 oh god Jul 24 18:59:43 dump'd loads of text into the log Jul 24 19:01:05 this is a bit insane... Jul 24 19:04:48 * AHelper3 jumps up and down Jul 24 19:07:57 does anyone know of a good app to use for a bicycle for recording gps, kph, temperature -- etc Jul 24 19:10:03 or do i have to make one Jul 24 19:10:20 Smartrunner Jul 24 19:10:26 free/paid? Jul 24 19:10:29 fre Jul 24 19:10:33 I think there's a paid option Jul 24 19:10:37 but I use the free version Jul 24 19:10:54 One thing though, I've found I need to keep my screen on while it's running the GPS Jul 24 19:10:58 :/ Jul 24 19:11:22 yeah Jul 24 19:11:25 need another dicussion place for non developer related things Jul 24 19:11:27 and battery dies? Jul 24 19:11:38 well I charge mine up before I us it Jul 24 19:11:43 so it lasts a good 2 hrs or so Jul 24 19:11:45 lol Jul 24 19:11:49 lol Jul 24 19:12:04 Screen on + running GPS... not long battery life Jul 24 19:12:11 i was about to purchase a speedometer, temperature, speed avg etc Jul 24 19:12:22 but i thought maybe there was something else thatd work Jul 24 19:12:33 i have an external battery pack i want to mount to my bicycle Jul 24 19:12:38 The cool thing about smartrunner is that it makes a google maps satellite video of your ride Jul 24 19:12:38 i think it should work Jul 24 19:12:53 yay, my richtext works! Jul 24 19:13:04 okay off I go Jul 24 19:13:24 does anyone know what happens if you do a db8 merge via query when a query returns nothing? Jul 24 19:14:49 now it broke itself -_- Jul 24 19:38:45 Yay, syntax highlighting! Jul 24 20:41:03 https://developer.palm.com/distribution/viewtopic.php?f=11&t=16709 Jul 24 20:41:13 Anyone know what I'm doing wrong? Jul 24 20:41:48 I'm trying to set the font size of some text in an item list in a virtual list - nothig I try works. I figured I could just do style: "font-size: small" or something and it would work but it doesn't. any ideas? http://pastebin.com/gvZcVBCA Jul 24 20:42:36 it's the storyInfo I am trying to set the font size for Jul 24 20:44:21 well you typo'ed 'style' for one. Jul 24 20:44:47 sytle: "font-size: 1.1em; text-align: center" Jul 24 20:45:54 oops Jul 24 20:47:50 lulz Jul 24 20:47:58 yup, that was it Jul 24 20:48:00 me-- Jul 24 20:51:00 http://www.amazon.com/Apple-MacBook-MC966LL-13-3-Inch-VERSION/dp/B005CWIGHU/ref=dp_ob_title_ce hmmm….. Jul 24 20:53:54 i think i want. Jul 24 21:13:39 Anyone know where to find a cheap Pre 2 (under $200)? It'll be used to convert it to Sprint. Ebay and Amazon only have a couple sellers each Jul 24 21:47:07 I Jul 24 21:47:40 my emulator doesn't support flash. =( Jul 24 21:47:52 how ironic Jul 24 21:48:20 I'm seeing something weird - could be a bug in enyo or a behavior I don't understand - it seems as though the onclick, onmouseup, and onmouseup events for enyo.Item fire twice on each click. Jul 24 21:48:56 morning Jul 24 21:49:18 'morning rod =) Jul 24 21:51:25 no; they don't get fired twice. I just logged out incrementing a variable and it incremented in singles... Jul 24 21:51:26 weird Jul 24 23:25:50 PuffTheMagic: :1 is the version number, I believe Jul 24 23:25:57 morn rwhitby Jul 24 23:36:02 haeffb, the version number of what? Jul 24 23:45:14 Hello Jul 24 23:53:47 Is anybody here? Jul 25 00:19:33 nope Jul 25 00:19:37 haeffb, how do setup and index in the db that is the first element of an array Jul 25 00:19:41 does that even work? Jul 25 00:22:11 i see that there is a multi field Jul 25 00:22:17 err Jul 25 00:22:20 type Jul 25 00:41:53 I just sold my grandma on the TouchPad Jul 25 00:41:59 she really likes it Jul 25 00:42:15 She's gonna wait for the 7" version though so she can just stick it in her purse Jul 25 00:56:38 PuffTheMagic: version of your kind in the DB. Jul 25 00:56:54 And I haven't really used db8 so can't answer your other question Jul 25 01:00:00 i decided i didnt want to do it anyway Jul 25 01:00:06 ;) Jul 25 01:15:00 http://www.beatweek.com/news/8846-religion-iphone-5-a-mainstream-blessing-as-geeks-wank-on-cult-status/ Jul 25 01:15:01 lololol Jul 25 01:15:18 did he just say, there are zero advantages of any other platform over iphone except to hate on a cult? Jul 25 01:15:21 yeah, i think he did Jul 25 01:15:58 "comments are closed, he doesn't want a sore vagina" Jul 25 01:16:13 Hello can someone help me Jul 25 01:18:48 KyleR: i'm right the fuck here, why would you feel it necessary to PM me Jul 25 01:19:21 i spoke 16 seconds before you did, you can address me in the chat, respect Jul 25 01:21:42 Can applications be developed in python(is there support for this in the PDK), or should i think of learning something else since im just starting out in it Jul 25 01:24:00 Tommy: mayb you should try speaking in a not-so-arrogant tone Jul 25 01:24:06 not everybody is as cool as you Jul 25 01:24:48 fxspec06: i don't care how i talk, i don't need PM's from people who've never seen me and are in the same channel as me anyways Jul 25 01:24:57 that's spam, i get enough of it Jul 25 01:25:47 and nobody wants to read your badmouthing anyone else anywhere Jul 25 01:26:00 there's no need for it here Jul 25 01:26:37 fxspec06: all i did was tell him not to PM me Jul 25 01:26:50 and in a very loving and respectful tone, too! Jul 25 01:26:58 lol Jul 25 01:26:59 it was a total of 2 lines, and you're crying about it Jul 25 01:27:08 rwatkins: welcome to IRC, it's not all "please sir" and "thanks much" Jul 25 01:27:19 if that's what you want you need to find a different planet : Jul 25 01:27:22 :\ Jul 25 01:27:25 Tommy: not in this channel Jul 25 01:27:29 Tommy: yea, I've been on this irc thing a few times before. Jul 25 01:27:31 we respect one another here Jul 25 01:27:39 lolz Jul 25 01:27:47 i've been in here aplenty Jul 25 01:27:50 like say, 18 yrs now. Jul 25 01:27:51 and seen aplenty of bashing Jul 25 01:28:06 well i havn't seen much bashing Jul 25 01:28:13 rwatkins: hahaha patrickc wasn't born 18 years ago xD Jul 25 01:28:18 in the ~few mos i've been in here Jul 25 01:28:36 yes, it happens. still doesnt mean your not a prick tho. Jul 25 01:28:48 fxspec06: all i'm saying is, i told him (in a less than respectful way) to not spam and PM me, and it only took up 2 lines... now we're spending 200 arguing about IRC? Jul 25 01:29:05 welcome to discussions on the internet Tommy. Jul 25 01:29:10 lol Jul 25 01:30:34 i just don't want someone who's merely looking for help to be scared off Jul 25 01:30:42 this is the place to go for webos dev help Jul 25 01:30:49 Tommy is a troll. please don't feed him. Jul 25 01:31:12 haeffb: oh c'mon now, we know that's not true Jul 25 01:31:31 i'm in here 24/7 and i don't cause problems Jul 25 01:31:31 most of the time :S Jul 25 01:32:01 fxspec06: i have no problem with him being helped, but there's a way to go about things, and if you go around IRC sending PM's to everyone in the userlist you won't get very far Jul 25 01:32:53 fair enough, we all have our opinions Jul 25 01:34:03 Tommy: perhaps a PM back would have been a suitable way to educate him of that fact too ;) Jul 25 01:34:33 rwhitby: my response PM was met with "lol yeah ok" Jul 25 01:34:52 * Tommy shrugs Jul 25 01:35:09 * rwhitby finds it best to just ignore anyone who starts an IRC line with lol Jul 25 01:35:22 Tommy: fair enough Jul 25 01:35:49 heh Jul 25 01:37:37 rwhitby: in the states? Jul 25 01:37:58 haeffb: yep, in Portland on HP's dime to present at OSCON on webOS homebrew. Jul 25 01:38:07 whens the talk? Jul 25 01:38:18 wednesday, just before lunch Jul 25 01:38:33 awesome. you get the whole week? Jul 25 01:38:37 product and services track, so you only need an expo pass, and there's a coupon code to get those for free. Jul 25 01:38:44 yeah, leave Friday arvo Jul 25 01:42:26 sounds like a good time. enjoy! Jul 25 01:46:19 arvo? rwhitby: you're aussie? Jul 25 01:48:43 yes Jul 25 01:51:18 word... where from? Jul 25 01:51:49 what are we talking about? Jul 25 01:52:48 QLD originally, then Adelaide, then US, then Sydney, then Adelaide again. Jul 25 01:53:01 What's Adelaide? Jul 25 01:53:53 rwhitby: i'm in melbourne now, fly to darwin tomorrow Jul 25 01:54:04 Where's Darwin? Jul 25 01:54:05 webOSNewbie: a city in southern australia Jul 25 01:54:12 webOSNewbie: north coast Jul 25 01:54:19 Oh. Jul 25 01:54:20 (answer 1 = adelaide, answer 2 = darwin) Jul 25 01:54:46 and lolz, south australia* Jul 25 01:54:57 LOLZ? Jul 25 01:55:30 for sure. Jul 25 01:55:43 What's that? Jul 25 01:57:22 /changenick webOSNewbie internetNewbie ? Jul 25 01:57:32 Why internet? Jul 25 01:57:38 Just webOS and IRC Jul 25 01:58:22 google answers a lot of questions Jul 25 01:58:47 lol Jul 25 01:58:55 i'm out guys, lunch special doesnt go forever Jul 25 02:00:49 I get lolz is plural Jul 25 02:01:00 But what does plural mean? Jul 25 02:01:17 more than one Jul 25 02:01:18 LOL plural Jul 25 02:01:23 I mean Jul 25 02:01:36 It means you didn't just laugh, you chuckled. Jul 25 02:01:45 Oh. Jul 25 02:01:47 Thanks Jul 25 02:01:48 really? Jul 25 02:01:58 I'm 12 Jul 25 02:01:58 I thought lolz was a degenerate form of lols Jul 25 02:02:01 dwc-: No idea but that's what I'm making it mean Jul 25 02:02:18 lolz really is lols Jul 25 02:02:22 I looked it up Jul 25 02:02:29 which seems like a wrong way to pluralize Jul 25 02:02:38 nonono, its always lulz Jul 25 02:02:42 since lol is laughing out loud Jul 25 02:02:49 except when it isn't Jul 25 02:02:53 LOLZ = Laughing Out Loud ZEBRA Jul 25 02:02:59 HWta? Jul 25 02:03:02 What? Jul 25 02:03:06 which would it be? "laughings out loud?" "laughing out louds?" Jul 25 02:03:16 Like when you're laughing and you see a zebra go by Jul 25 02:03:26 Nit in Colorado Jul 25 02:03:28 Not Jul 25 02:03:48 I don't know, I'm just making up what lolz means. It just means the same thing as lol pretty much Jul 25 02:03:59 I know Jul 25 02:04:00 Now Jul 25 02:04:03 and if you asked my parents, they'd tell you it means "lots of love" Jul 25 02:04:15 * halfhalo managed to mess up his work mbp somehow Jul 25 02:04:16 lol Jul 25 02:04:21 "Grandma died." "Oh. Sorry to here that. LOL" Jul 25 02:04:34 Um...Odd Jul 25 02:04:53 That actually happens Jul 25 02:05:00 seen it twice on Facebook Jul 25 02:05:07 No, laughing Jul 25 02:05:14 Yeah but they think it means "lots of love" Jul 25 02:05:23 Oh Jul 25 02:05:30 Not much anymore Jul 25 02:05:36 Why not spell it out? Jul 25 02:05:47 they want to be tech-savvy and use the hip internet lingo Jul 25 02:06:01 halfhalo: you've had it... how many days now? Jul 25 02:06:13 Had what? Jul 25 02:06:30 dwc-: umm.... i got it like 3pm monday? Jul 25 02:06:40 I swear I have done nothing to it save for install lion Jul 25 02:06:59 oh, well, maybe that was your mistake Jul 25 02:07:04 Apple developer get free copy Jul 25 02:07:09 developers Jul 25 02:07:28 * halfhalo is not an apple developer Jul 25 02:07:41 I doesn't take much Jul 25 02:07:46 He's an HP developer Jul 25 02:07:46 dev.apple.com Jul 25 02:07:51 I know Jul 25 02:08:00 I'm an "Apple" developer Jul 25 02:08:02 literally, he works for HP Jul 25 02:08:03 never tried Jul 25 02:08:15 Didn't even enter account info Jul 25 02:08:19 But I count Jul 25 02:08:39 Just add "developer" status to your Apple id Jul 25 02:08:39 * halfhalo has a palm email, thankyouverymuch. not this hp stuff Jul 25 02:08:48 * twbbas wants a palm email Jul 25 02:08:54 Palm email? Jul 25 02:09:00 like first.last@palm.com Jul 25 02:09:08 You can get that? Jul 25 02:09:12 if you work for Palm Jul 25 02:09:15 sure, if you get a job Jul 25 02:09:22 How do I get one? Jul 25 02:09:23 Oh. Jul 25 02:09:25 Go work for Palm Jul 25 02:09:25 I'm 12 Jul 25 02:09:29 Child labor Jul 25 02:09:33 lol Jul 25 02:09:35 I know Jul 25 02:09:38 Like PatrickC Jul 25 02:09:42 at the Sprint store Jul 25 02:09:51 Real guy? Jul 25 02:10:00 oh he exists Jul 25 02:10:03 Yeah, he's 15. Comes in here often. He may get a job at the Sprint store Jul 25 02:10:23 Cool. Jul 25 02:10:28 I should try Jul 25 02:10:40 Yeah, when you're older you should try for an internship Jul 25 02:10:52 how old? Jul 25 02:11:02 College age Jul 25 02:11:10 depends on the laws in your state, but probably at least high school Jul 25 02:11:13 Oh. Jul 25 02:11:18 College at 14? Jul 25 02:11:23 Would that work? Jul 25 02:11:26 HP, at least has (had?) an internship program for high schoolers ~16+ Jul 25 02:11:34 hmm that'd be neat Jul 25 02:11:34 most states require you be 16 to do actual work Jul 25 02:11:41 Ugh. Jul 25 02:11:43 otherwise you need special work permits and things Jul 25 02:11:48 work permits are not hard to get Jul 25 02:11:51 take some age pills Jul 25 02:12:02 or just play angry birds Jul 25 02:12:09 lol Jul 25 02:12:10 GO ANGRY BIRDS Jul 25 02:12:11 dwc-: no, true, but there are also rules around how frequently/etc. you can work with a permit Jul 25 02:12:20 How get one? Jul 25 02:12:32 wooo! Jul 25 02:12:35 summatusmentis: even without one there are restrictions for youth Jul 25 02:12:36 recovery partition! Jul 25 02:12:44 dwc-: oh clearly Jul 25 02:12:47 !google work permit Jul 25 02:13:28 webOSNewbie: http://tinyurl.com/3snqptj Jul 25 02:13:29 I love Firefox Jul 25 02:14:29 how do you do that? Jul 25 02:14:58 It's an art you learn when you are older Jul 25 02:17:05 http://bit.ly/cpjvhn Jul 25 02:17:09 Hah! Jul 25 02:17:44 easy Jul 25 02:17:48 just google it Jul 25 02:17:53 :) Jul 25 02:18:03 I'm learning Jul 25 02:18:28 I like Firefox Jul 25 02:19:06 i like turtles Jul 25 02:19:18 I like Ubuntu Jul 25 02:19:22 using it now Jul 25 02:20:27 How to I do the "back" gesture in the emulator? Jul 25 02:20:35 Esc key? Jul 25 02:20:36 I think Jul 25 02:20:45 I do it and nothing happens Jul 25 02:20:55 Is the emulator window in focus? Jul 25 02:20:58 kindaNewbie: what does the emulator documentation say? Jul 25 02:21:04 Yes Jul 25 02:21:25 When I try to switch workspaces with keyboard, pushes card Jul 25 02:21:36 try home key. That may be it Jul 25 02:21:40 * twbbas hasn't used the emulator in a while Jul 25 02:21:50 I wish I could have a device Jul 25 02:21:56 * twbbas prefers to dev in google Chrome Jul 25 02:22:04 WOW Jul 25 02:22:06 Home works Jul 25 02:22:09 cool Jul 25 02:22:16 There's lots of documentation for that type of stuff Jul 25 02:22:20 developer.palm.com Jul 25 02:22:23 yeah, funny about that. that's what the doco says too :) Jul 25 02:22:30 It used to be esc Jul 25 02:22:58 hmm. lets try lion reinstall. Jul 25 02:23:26 * twbbas is finally trying to get my Paypal account de-limited Jul 25 02:23:34 third-person Jul 25 02:23:39 + first-person Jul 25 02:23:39 I need PayPal Jul 25 02:23:51 Paypal is handy but I'm never going to use it ever again after I get my money out Jul 25 02:23:53 I don't think you're legally allowed until you're 18 Jul 25 02:24:05 could be wrong though Jul 25 02:24:06 They have a student account Jul 25 02:24:08 Need 13 Jul 25 02:24:20 ah Jul 25 02:24:21 August 18 birthday! Jul 25 02:24:28 COunting down Jul 25 02:24:46 I know someone with birthday Aug 17th Jul 25 02:24:47 sooo close Jul 25 02:24:57 Me too Jul 25 02:25:06 I know 16,17,18,19 Jul 25 02:25:11 I think Jul 25 02:25:38 Hi NuttyBunny! Jul 25 02:25:55 swishy,zylog80 are here! Jul 25 02:26:07 hey everyone Jul 25 02:26:07 hi kindaNewbie Jul 25 02:26:23 I used to be completeNewbie Jul 25 02:26:36 I'm only 12 Jul 25 02:27:07 kindaNewbie: Ah, you're "the young one"? :) Jul 25 02:27:21 I don't know what that means Jul 25 02:27:26 kindaNewbie Jul 25 02:27:50 * swishy waves Jul 25 02:28:10 lol Jul 25 02:28:35 * fxspec06 just had the second bag of moldy popcorn out of this new 'shaws movie theater popcorn' box Jul 25 02:28:41 loving that camelcase, kindaNewbie Jul 25 02:28:49 fxspec06: O.o Jul 25 02:28:54 How do you do that! Jul 25 02:29:05 I get kindaNewbie|text Jul 25 02:29:06 i'm totally going to shaws Jul 25 02:29:10 How do you Jul 25 02:29:14 Type /me is a kindaNewbie Jul 25 02:29:16 and telling them to look for that batch. >.> Jul 25 02:29:20 *|person does Jul 25 02:29:31 * NuttyBunny looks around Jul 25 02:29:37 * twbbas spys NuttyBunny Jul 25 02:29:40 spies* Jul 25 02:29:40 * kindaNewbie is a complete newbie Jul 25 02:29:43 :o Jul 25 02:29:48 * fxspec06 ponders the meaning of life Jul 25 02:29:49 Spy? Jul 25 02:29:55 * kindaNewbie farts Jul 25 02:30:01 Let's keep it classy in here Jul 25 02:30:30 * kindaNewbie jokes around Jul 25 02:30:51 Apparently Paypal is having "high call volume" right now. 10PM eastern on a Sunday night? Yeah, right. Jul 25 02:31:01 Oh my bad, "unusually high call volume" Jul 25 02:31:11 "no one is answering your phone call" Jul 25 02:31:16 Yeah, that's what it means Jul 25 02:31:24 they close in 30 mins so they better pick up! Jul 25 02:31:50 I just want to withdraw my money from my account and be done! Jul 25 02:32:54 * kindaNewbie Yells at PayPal Jul 25 02:39:56 * halfhalo notes he has disk corruption Jul 25 02:40:33 that can't be good Jul 25 02:40:43 nope Jul 25 02:41:20 ouch. hate that. Jul 25 02:41:27 the lion recovery partition is pretty shiny though Jul 25 02:41:49 that's good, but you still need to replace your disk Jul 25 02:41:50 >.> Jul 25 02:42:30 well, I think its just macos mucking about Jul 25 02:42:39 this laptop is less than 7 days old Jul 25 02:42:47 oh jeez Jul 25 02:42:51 that's the new one? Jul 25 02:42:57 yup Jul 25 02:43:14 well then i'd run some tests. you could have got a faulty drive Jul 25 02:43:29 didn't you say it was an SSD? Jul 25 02:43:32 disk utility is running now on it Jul 25 02:43:41 and no, its not an ssd. 500GB hitachi Jul 25 02:44:01 oh. well then, you def wanna make sure there aren't any EEC errors Jul 25 02:44:38 no, what I want to do is just mount this drive and copy the like 5 folders I need. then it can be reimaged and all will be well in the world Jul 25 02:44:52 lol there u go Jul 25 02:45:37 which reminds me, i need like a 6tb raid networked server when i get somewhat wealthier than i am now Jul 25 02:45:48 raid networked drive* Jul 25 02:58:07 Hi Jul 25 02:58:19 Soory I forgot to change to away Jul 25 02:58:22 sorry Jul 25 02:59:04 Not a problem, no one else really does that anyways Jul 25 02:59:15 oh. Jul 25 02:59:26 * kindaNewbie slaps himself **** ENDING LOGGING AT Mon Jul 25 02:59:57 2011