**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Tue Jul 26 02:59:56 2011 Jul 26 03:00:03 yeah, that won't do Jul 26 03:00:10 ugh such a tiny problem Jul 26 03:00:19 Thanks so much for the help Jul 26 03:00:21 events always have a sender param Jul 26 03:00:32 Yeah, I must have missed something there Jul 26 03:00:55 no problem Jul 26 03:01:29 I should have been better at explaining what's going on. Maybe need to writeup something for http://webos101.com Jul 26 03:01:34 or maybe you should... :) Jul 26 03:02:06 Oh man, my code is so messy. I'll definitely look into it though. Jul 26 03:02:19 I really want to start helping others more than I'm getting help Jul 26 03:02:30 I feel like I'm always leeching off of everyone else Jul 26 03:03:38 To edit a page, do I just click the "view source" tab and edit it there? Jul 26 03:03:47 oh nevermind, read-only Jul 26 03:04:19 Do I just create an account and it'll let me edit? Jul 26 03:06:02 Got it. Created an account and it's letting me edit now. Jul 26 03:06:30 * webOSNewbie watched Cars after dinner Jul 26 03:06:37 * webOSNewbie needs to wash dishes Jul 26 03:06:55 * webOSNewbie is back (gone 02:26:30) Jul 26 03:06:58 * webOSNewbie is away: I need to go, but I'll be back Jul 26 03:09:02 roy-pre101: I have recruited another editor to http://webos101.com... : Jul 26 03:09:06 :) Jul 26 03:09:15 :) Jul 26 03:09:46 haeffb: Interesting! Who? Jul 26 03:09:52 say, now that roy-pre101 is an HP employee, does webos101 get more official status? Jul 26 03:09:56 twbbas Jul 26 03:10:44 haeffb: editor for? Jul 26 03:11:02 webOS Pivot! nah, webos101.com Jul 26 03:11:09 cool Jul 26 03:11:25 I edited webos-internals before.. Jul 26 03:11:30 never webos101 Jul 26 03:11:57 PatrickC: Get busy! Jul 26 03:12:20 careful what you ask for... Jul 26 03:12:49 PatrickC: did you get your pre2 sprintified yet? Jul 26 03:17:38 * fxspec06 wanders in Jul 26 03:22:38 * webOSNewbie is back (gone 00:15:40) Jul 26 03:23:04 * webOSNewbie wanders back Jul 26 03:23:16 Hi everybody! Jul 26 03:24:32 what are the Mojo class names for the dark styles? Jul 26 03:25:28 put palm-dark on the body Jul 26 03:25:40 no special headers? Jul 26 03:25:59 no Jul 26 03:26:07 Cool! Jul 26 03:27:26 I hate Internet Explorer Jul 26 03:29:21 * haeffb blames oil for Internet Explorer Jul 26 03:29:24 :/ Jul 26 03:29:33 huh? Jul 26 03:30:04 G+ PARTYYYYYYY Jul 26 03:30:16 double huh? Jul 26 03:30:36 Chuq's retweet orgy on Twitter Jul 26 03:30:56 got like 10 Circle adds in 2 minutes Jul 26 03:31:02 including PatrickC! Jul 26 03:31:04 * oil says meh Jul 26 03:31:07 Oh. Jul 26 03:31:26 What's the deal about Google+ Jul 26 03:31:32 enyo needs a palm-dark Jul 26 03:31:41 10M users in 2 days, webOSNewbie Jul 26 03:31:44 er Jul 26 03:31:46 2 weeks Jul 26 03:31:46 lol Jul 26 03:31:53 All I know is that the founder of Facebook has an account Jul 26 03:31:57 yeah Jul 26 03:32:02 I 'seen him Jul 26 03:32:06 What is it? Jul 26 03:32:12 Mark Zuckerberg Jul 26 03:32:12 so do, you know, 10m other people Jul 26 03:32:13 lol Jul 26 03:32:22 indeed Jul 26 03:32:22 What is Google+ Jul 26 03:32:27 IGNTNUNLMTD: i want in on c+ party Jul 26 03:32:31 ? Jul 26 03:32:31 oh G+ party Jul 26 03:32:35 lol Jul 26 03:32:38 rofl Jul 26 03:32:57 PatrickC has G+ Jul 26 03:32:58 tweet your G+ account to @webOSdev to get RT'd Jul 26 03:32:58 ? Jul 26 03:33:01 yeah Jul 26 03:33:04 he added me Jul 26 03:33:08 Rolling On Floor Wondering Jul 26 03:33:10 * oil needs a google+ account like he needs a hole in the head Jul 26 03:33:25 oil: either could be arranged... Jul 26 03:33:39 * webOSNewbie wonders what Google+ is for the nth time Jul 26 03:33:39 oil: is it true you're oi1 on XBL? Jul 26 03:33:45 yes Jul 26 03:33:47 https://plus.google.com/102324265029995417871 Jul 26 03:33:48 * webOSNewbie wonders what Google+ is for the nth time Jul 26 03:33:49 nows the time to start a google+ webOS Hangout Jul 26 03:33:50 nice work. Jul 26 03:33:50 holes in the head are required for eating, breathing, ... Jul 26 03:33:52 * webOSNewbie wonders what Google+ is for the nth time Jul 26 03:33:55 that's one hell of a gt Jul 26 03:34:05 rwatkins: you can emulate palm-dark simply with dark background-color, works pretty good Jul 26 03:34:14 someone already had "oil" when i went to register it Jul 26 03:34:17 webOSNewbie: it's Google's FB-killing social network Jul 26 03:34:22 probably a spam bot Jul 26 03:34:26 IGNTNUNLMTD: huh? Jul 26 03:34:28 haeffb: nope Jul 26 03:34:29 what's so cool? Jul 26 03:34:36 you added me on G+, no? Jul 26 03:34:36 webOSNewbie: remember that "patience" thing we mentioned earlier? Jul 26 03:34:38 qillerneu: partially but not quite. I have a 'dark' mode to my TP app and its mostly there, but not completely Jul 26 03:34:55 Yah. Jul 26 03:35:00 ok Jul 26 03:35:01 * webOSNewbie has a short attention span Jul 26 03:35:09 naw? really? Jul 26 03:35:18 lol Jul 26 03:35:18 rwatkins: have you tried theming yet? Jul 26 03:35:22 so wait i just tweet that link to webosdev Jul 26 03:35:26 and he retweets it Jul 26 03:35:28 your G+ Jul 26 03:35:29 yeah Jul 26 03:35:36 haeffb: not really, looked promising tho Jul 26 03:35:39 and then prepare for a barrage of webOS people adding you Jul 26 03:35:40 lol Jul 26 03:35:46 webOSNewbie: http://xkcd.com/918/ Jul 26 03:35:51 o damn i see Jul 26 03:35:54 I have no Twitter Jul 26 03:36:02 IGNTNUNLMTD: no? Jul 26 03:36:03 SWEEEEEEEEEEET Jul 26 03:36:16 I swear to god another Patrick C added me Jul 26 03:36:17 rofl Jul 26 03:36:22 haeffb: theming? Jul 26 03:36:25 Please, I'm only 12 Jul 26 03:36:28 webOSNewbie: wait outside the 7-11 and pay an old guy to tweet for you. At least, that's how we used to do it. Jul 26 03:36:28 and I was like, oh, must be PatrickC Jul 26 03:36:33 lol Jul 26 03:36:37 rofl Jul 26 03:36:38 link to profile? Jul 26 03:36:42 IGNTNUNLMTD: invite me Jul 26 03:36:43 I don't know where there is a 7/11 Jul 26 03:36:43 * fxspec06 raises G+ shield Jul 26 03:36:46 :) Jul 26 03:36:49 will do. Jul 26 03:36:57 thx Jul 26 03:36:58 I never found one in Colorado Jul 26 03:36:58 hey you guys gotta add me too u know Jul 26 03:37:00 I need your gmail account.. PM me Jul 26 03:37:08 gmail address Jul 26 03:37:16 sent Jul 26 03:37:23 brb Jul 26 03:37:26 I tried signing up Google+, but it kicked me out Jul 26 03:37:30 qillerneu: you have no "U" after your "Q" Jul 26 03:37:30 hey guys, anyone have a link that explains how to actually get an app onto my touchpad? Jul 26 03:37:43 wesbos: developer.palm.com Jul 26 03:37:51 like that helps Jul 26 03:38:09 Tibfib_: :\ Jul 26 03:38:10 palm-install com.my.app* Jul 26 03:38:11 that is exactly where you would get the info to install an app on your touchpad. Jul 26 03:38:12 I hate spiders Jul 26 03:38:28 Tibfib_: that's not a link Jul 26 03:38:28 just palm-install Jul 26 03:38:29 Tibfib_ Any specific links? I cant seem to find anything, im not stupid.. Jul 26 03:38:34 webOSNewbie: did you use your real name? Jul 26 03:38:36 that will bring up info Jul 26 03:38:38 haeffb: darn you haeffb Jul 26 03:38:47 or did they beat you on the age part? Jul 26 03:38:48 RT'd Jul 26 03:38:50 wesbos: should be in the beginner stuff Jul 26 03:38:53 sweeeeet Jul 26 03:38:53 haeffb: hehe, i used to play quake (1) a lot Jul 26 03:38:56 lemme find it Jul 26 03:39:05 Tibfib_ thanks Jul 26 03:39:08 fxspec06: Add me. http://plus.tl/nick Jul 26 03:39:08 I'm confused Jul 26 03:39:13 palm-install isnt a command for me Jul 26 03:39:19 qillerneu: theming is supposedly built into enyo, but there's little (no?) documentation on it Jul 26 03:39:21 I've got the SDK installed, osx Jul 26 03:39:22 Install the SDK Jul 26 03:39:31 k added Jul 26 03:39:35 again Jul 26 03:39:38 is that your 350z Jul 26 03:39:57 palm-install should be a command Jul 26 03:39:59 wesbos: on the first page: https://developer.palm.com/content/resources/develop/building_your_first_app.html Jul 26 03:40:06 at the bottom of the screen Jul 26 03:40:10 I made my own version Jul 26 03:40:16 350Z? That's a Porsche 911 GT3 RS ;-) Jul 26 03:40:21 and no, not mine :-P Jul 26 03:40:24 webOSNewbie: any generic convenience store will do. Just make sure the old guy isn't rocking a dumbphone Jul 26 03:40:27 o ok Jul 26 03:40:30 wesbos: or from the "resources" tab Jul 26 03:40:32 Add Me :) http://gplus.to/TylerBayne Jul 26 03:40:41 Ok Jul 26 03:40:42 that was my first thought i just couldn't tell from the angle. i didnt' think u had that much money Jul 26 03:40:55 Tibfib_ thannks ill have a look :) Jul 26 03:41:03 good evening Jul 26 03:41:06 but that would explain it if it wasn't your car Jul 26 03:41:22 wesbos: if palm-install doesn't work, then the sdk didn't get installed properly, or the path is off Jul 26 03:41:29 * haeffb debating whether to post my rant on the forums Jul 26 03:41:40 haeffb: ooooh, ranting about what? Jul 26 03:41:44 twbbas: added Jul 26 03:41:46 I've been pretty close to posting a rant too Jul 26 03:41:48 plenty of choices Jul 26 03:41:51 uiRevision: 2 issues Jul 26 03:41:56 fxspec06: Thanks! Jul 26 03:42:04 oh, mine was more of how palm needs to stop being stupid. Jul 26 03:42:11 there's just soo much crap lately Jul 26 03:42:12 but that's cool I guess. Jul 26 03:42:17 looks like the dev device program has started Jul 26 03:42:21 dev loaner* Jul 26 03:42:32 CTLAdvance: Source? Jul 26 03:42:34 wow like 8 adds in like 2 mins Jul 26 03:42:34 payment issues Jul 26 03:42:40 i need my loaner Pre3 Jul 26 03:42:45 http://xkcd.com/903/ Jul 26 03:42:46 CTLAdvance: loaner has been on for months. Jul 26 03:42:50 rwatkins: +1 Jul 26 03:42:53 lol Jul 26 03:42:58 Loaner hasnt been on, they just started it Jul 26 03:43:01 for touchpads Jul 26 03:43:01 rwatkins: +1 Jul 26 03:43:03 CTLAdvance: no, you're wrong Jul 26 03:43:11 I know of multiple peeps that have had touchpads for a while Jul 26 03:43:15 Yuo Jul 26 03:43:17 Yup Jul 26 03:43:32 must be inner circle people Jul 26 03:43:34 * haeffb looks around and whistles innocently Jul 26 03:43:41 because they werent giving them out until yesterday Jul 26 03:43:42 CTLAdvance: kind of Jul 26 03:43:46 oil is one Jul 26 03:43:49 they were testing the program Jul 26 03:43:58 fxspec06: Here's my lovely: http://bit.ly/qK61b8 Jul 26 03:44:05 * oil gets to keep his Jul 26 03:44:05 oil would be an inner circle person I believe Jul 26 03:44:13 oil: heh, they changed it? Jul 26 03:44:19 yeah Jul 26 03:44:20 * haeffb is waiting until they ask for it back Jul 26 03:44:37 oil: noice Jul 26 03:44:42 yeah now I guess they just bill your credit card after 60 days :) Jul 26 03:44:47 lol Jul 26 03:44:48 * haeffb thinks they forgot Jul 26 03:44:48 nice v/w Jul 26 03:44:51 though my belt is nice enough so it doesnt matter Jul 26 03:45:07 I don't know my belt color Jul 26 03:45:12 and don't make any jokes about looking down Jul 26 03:45:19 hahaahah Jul 26 03:45:28 CTLAdvance: they don't have my credit card. and they don't send enough $ to my paypal... :) Jul 26 03:45:35 here's a picture of mine, although it isn't -mine- (i dont' wanna up a pic rigt now) http://carphotos.cardomain.com/ride_images/3/2090/441/30222720001_large.jpg Jul 26 03:45:35 lol Jul 26 03:45:35 I'm definitely a green, or whatever the lowest is. Jul 26 03:45:39 oh.. I'm getting a new(er) laptop! Jul 26 03:45:52 and it's unregistered. so can't drive it. Jul 26 03:45:53 I should have spent my time writing crappy apps every week, rather than on meaningful apps Jul 26 03:45:56 Jul 26 03:45:58 I *may* qualify for the middle one. I don't know which apps of mine qualify and I've never attended a workshop. Jul 26 03:46:07 Tibfib: Lol yup! Jul 26 03:46:20 I shoulda put out tons of free ebooks Jul 26 03:46:25 seriously Jul 26 03:46:34 * haeffb decides not to post the rant, in case they should suddenly remember the TP Jul 26 03:46:37 the belts are the worst idea possible. Jul 26 03:46:42 haeffb: haha, good choice Jul 26 03:46:50 haeffb: smart man Jul 26 03:46:58 Tibfib: more crappy apps, now! Jul 26 03:47:05 Tibfib: I don't like the qualifications but I do like how we have more benefits now Jul 26 03:47:05 the belts are fine. They just need to be able to adjust the criteria as needed Jul 26 03:47:13 FINE FINE FINE Jul 26 03:47:21 oil: I'll make a crappy app generator Jul 26 03:47:26 I have Green belt in karate, not webOS Jul 26 03:47:27 lol Jul 26 03:47:36 it generates random scenes with lipsum (sp?) text Jul 26 03:47:42 Ueichi-Ryu karate-do Jul 26 03:47:44 hmm, that's not it Jul 26 03:47:45 what's it called Jul 26 03:47:53 I have a blackbelt in douchebag Jul 26 03:47:54 lorem ipsum Jul 26 03:47:54 Tibfib: Have a button to choose between fart, ebook, and tip calc. Jul 26 03:48:05 twbbas: YES Jul 26 03:48:07 ooo and soundboards! Jul 26 03:48:08 Tibfib: or just wait till things die down a bit and hten when you want a higher benefit point out how you built one very key platform app. Jul 26 03:48:15 have it randomly generate a soundboard of random sounds Jul 26 03:48:16 and FARTS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Jul 26 03:48:23 woah Jul 26 03:48:26 I agree, belts are nice. Requirements are the dumbest things ever. Jul 26 03:48:26 it said that in the first list Jul 26 03:48:35 it just needs a hdd Jul 26 03:48:43 webOSNewbie: yep.. you are 12 lol Jul 26 03:48:44 rwatkins: exactly. They'll work with you if you do good stuff. Jul 26 03:48:44 Tibfib is an it?> Jul 26 03:48:57 I am? Jul 26 03:49:03 rofl Jul 26 03:49:03 that explains some things. Jul 26 03:49:07 or in my case, mediocre stuff Jul 26 03:49:13 I dont think they're gonna say "no pre3 for you, go write 9 more apps" if you wrote Angry Birds. Jul 26 03:49:16 I meant that in a passive grammatical sense Jul 26 03:49:23 Tibfibs got both parts? Jul 26 03:49:30 * Tibfib never said that Jul 26 03:49:31 hermaphrodite? Jul 26 03:49:39 no parts? Jul 26 03:49:39 :O Jul 26 03:49:43 :O Jul 26 03:49:50 can reproduce asexually? Jul 26 03:49:53 webOSNewbie: please look away for a bit. Thanks. Jul 26 03:49:55 skilled Jul 26 03:49:57 IGNTNUNLMTD: ding ding ding Jul 26 03:50:02 hahaha, haeffb Jul 26 03:50:06 osmosis? Jul 26 03:50:09 yay for splitting into two! Jul 26 03:50:17 lol Jul 26 03:50:19 they are my app writing minions Jul 26 03:50:25 heh Jul 26 03:50:33 no belt Jul 26 03:50:35 * twbbas just pictured Tibfib with 50 mini-tibfibs behind him on laptops Jul 26 03:50:35 like me Jul 26 03:50:45 who said they were mini? Jul 26 03:50:51 :o Jul 26 03:50:53 not an exact copy? Jul 26 03:50:59 ^ yeah Jul 26 03:51:12 well, just saying what I pictured ;) Jul 26 03:51:14 I'm actually watching tv, and dictating to one of them what to say Jul 26 03:51:23 if they step out of line, lashes Jul 26 03:51:32 harsh Jul 26 03:51:38 just use a spray bottle or something Jul 26 03:51:41 hehehehe Jul 26 03:51:42 but if you split in two? which one is the real one? Jul 26 03:51:46 the one "on the left" ? Jul 26 03:52:05 oil: that's a good question Jul 26 03:52:23 he brands his copies with a "Tibfib Certified" mark Jul 26 03:52:24 maybe I am the copy Jul 26 03:52:29 maybe none of this is real Jul 26 03:52:33 inception Jul 26 03:52:36 its not Jul 26 03:52:37 wake up Jul 26 03:52:51 do the kick Jul 26 03:52:57 zomg a Tibfib within a Tibfib Jul 26 03:53:05 i thought he had no parts though? Jul 26 03:53:06 WTF there's someone called that? Jul 26 03:53:06 within? O.o Jul 26 03:53:08 scarry! Jul 26 03:53:10 hahaha Oil Jul 26 03:53:11 scary* Jul 26 03:53:20 that MUST be illegal Jul 26 03:53:28 what? zomg Jul 26 03:53:28 to be called "zomg" on irc Jul 26 03:53:33 oil: lol Jul 26 03:53:41 here, watch this Jul 26 03:53:43 haha Jul 26 03:53:52 lol lol lol lol Jul 26 03:53:54 lol Jul 26 03:53:55 see how cheap that shit is? Jul 26 03:53:56 lol Jul 26 03:54:01 everyone talks to you! Jul 26 03:54:08 * oil would get annoyed by the beeping Jul 26 03:54:08 I'm SO popular Jul 26 03:54:13 same Jul 26 03:54:18 Good for you, I need to go to bed Jul 26 03:54:22 lol Jul 26 03:54:25 * webOSNewbie is away: I need to go, but I'll be back Jul 26 03:54:27 * Tibfib turns toward the reformed "rofl" Jul 26 03:54:28 NO MORE DINGS Jul 26 03:54:30 and im like "oh, someone mentioned me" *goes to look* Jul 26 03:54:37 "so i just got dont changing the oil in my car" Jul 26 03:54:40 rof Jul 26 03:54:41 l Jul 26 03:54:51 IGNTNUNLMTD IGNTNUNLMTD IGNTNUNLMTD Jul 26 03:54:52 IGNTNUNLMTD Jul 26 03:54:53 IGNTNUNLMTD Jul 26 03:54:54 IGNTNUNLMTD Jul 26 03:54:56 Tibfib Jul 26 03:54:57 Tibfib Jul 26 03:54:58 when the oil spill happened Jul 26 03:54:58 t Jul 26 03:55:00 i had to close irc Jul 26 03:55:02 Tibfib Jul 26 03:55:03 hahaahahahaahah Jul 26 03:55:11 ok tp has been ordered Jul 26 03:55:14 oil: HAHA Jul 26 03:55:15 you're the first T, Tibfib Jul 26 03:55:18 so Tab works Jul 26 03:55:21 easily Jul 26 03:55:47 * twbbas is the last T Jul 26 03:55:47 IGNTNUNLMTD: see PM :) Jul 26 03:55:59 ugh there is oil on my shirt Jul 26 03:56:01 OIL! Jul 26 03:56:06 see Jul 26 03:56:15 brb going for oil change Jul 26 03:56:15 I had a lovely olive oil with my salad Jul 26 03:56:28 it was funny the first time Jul 26 03:56:40 * haeffb blames oil for it not being funny anymore Jul 26 03:56:45 does it work if you say like "soil" Jul 26 03:56:47 * oil cant win Jul 26 03:56:55 twbbas: nope Jul 26 03:56:57 twbbas: in wirc it used to, and i had to fix that shit quick Jul 26 03:57:01 haha Jul 26 03:57:05 oil: see 23:41:34 Jul 26 03:57:13 luckily no one says Stibfib or anything similar Jul 26 03:57:17 if you're in my time zone Jul 26 03:57:18 lol Jul 26 03:57:36 [11:41:30PM] I have a blackbelt in douchebag Jul 26 03:57:39 that? Jul 26 03:57:41 heh Jul 26 03:57:42 indeed Jul 26 03:57:54 lol Jul 26 03:58:41 oil: why is wirc HD not in the catalog yet? Jul 26 03:58:48 because it hasn't been written Jul 26 03:58:49 yay Jul 26 03:59:05 perhaps Tibfib's minions could help? Jul 26 03:59:07 I just performed an oil change enyo mom Jul 26 03:59:09 and, im still waiting for them to fix the "for touchpad" to run off uirevision2 Jul 26 03:59:09 ? Jul 26 03:59:24 I beat N.O.V.A. on my Pre2 at work today while on the toilet Jul 26 03:59:30 what game should I buy next? Jul 26 03:59:33 since mojo-wirc works pretty good on the tp Jul 26 03:59:35 yeah, that's messed up. It worked fine two weeks ago. Jul 26 03:59:38 haeffb: my minions don't accept orders from oil Jul 26 04:00:13 is mojo-wirc fullscreen in preware yet (non-testing feeds)? Jul 26 04:00:23 no, its still living in the testing feeds Jul 26 04:00:29 not enough people have given me feedback Jul 26 04:00:38 I've been using it Jul 26 04:00:44 and its got a problem with the keyboard Jul 26 04:00:46 and scrollback Jul 26 04:00:48 wIRC is being stupid. or rather, webOS is being stupid with wIRC Jul 26 04:00:50 I'll let you know if I find anything wrong Jul 26 04:00:56 no matter how many times I delete it, it comes back Jul 26 04:00:59 but im told there is some fix coming which i may be able to use Jul 26 04:01:04 and gives me a "update available" notification Jul 26 04:01:21 * haeffb can't use it at work, cuz wifi only and it appears they block traffic from freenode.net Jul 26 04:01:30 Tibfib: thats a "feature" of preware Jul 26 04:01:30 they know where the slackers go Jul 26 04:01:47 oil: time to write a 1star review Jul 26 04:01:49 auto-installs all my apps :) Jul 26 04:01:57 lies Jul 26 04:02:05 that. would. be. awesome. Jul 26 04:02:10 lol Jul 26 04:02:11 hey, I got 77 dls back for koot Jul 26 04:02:15 s/koot/koto/ Jul 26 04:02:26 i was wondering what koot was Jul 26 04:02:34 hey 86 actually Jul 26 04:02:41 * oil isnt going to look at numbers Jul 26 04:02:42 don't trust the numbers! Jul 26 04:02:43 I doubt they are accurate though Jul 26 04:02:46 until they tell me its been fixed Jul 26 04:02:54 and don't give the gremlins water! Jul 26 04:02:55 * Tibfib opens my webos app out of habit Jul 26 04:02:57 and even then it won't be accurate Jul 26 04:02:58 oh crap, the keys on this thing have oil on them... time to grab a wipe to unsoil my oily keys Jul 26 04:03:06 wow Jul 26 04:03:08 goodnight people Jul 26 04:03:11 that boat has sailed Jul 26 04:03:13 you mean unstibfib your oily keys? Jul 26 04:03:19 through the oil-filled gulf of mexico Jul 26 04:03:21 hahah Jul 26 04:03:24 lol Jul 26 04:03:27 is that the new one Jul 26 04:03:34 Tibfib Jul 26 04:03:35 my keys are a bit stifibly today Jul 26 04:03:36 Tibfib Jul 26 04:03:37 haeffb: darn, that didn't ping me Jul 26 04:03:38 Tibfib Jul 26 04:03:47 moo Jul 26 04:03:54 Theres a bit of TibFib in my keys Jul 26 04:04:09 scary Jul 26 04:04:10 don't be too hard on my minion Jul 26 04:04:12 that's a loaner. Jul 26 04:04:37 Tibfib asexually reproduced between your keys Jul 26 04:04:44 ugh Jul 26 04:04:48 lol Jul 26 04:04:50 I need to grab the lysol brb Jul 26 04:04:57 mm meadows Jul 26 04:05:06 alright, NOW bedtime Jul 26 04:05:11 Yeah, I should sleep too Jul 26 04:05:12 and like hell I'm leaving IRC open Jul 26 04:05:15 hey, I now have 85 untrustworthy downloads of pondNotes! Yay! Jul 26 04:05:19 so when tibfib goes through mitosis there are 2 smaller versions? Jul 26 04:05:23 because I'll get "ding'd" to death Jul 26 04:05:32 IGNTNUNLMTD: good plan Jul 26 04:05:36 ass Jul 26 04:05:38 the question becomes Jul 26 04:05:38 lol Jul 26 04:05:43 IGNTNUNLMTD: wait Jul 26 04:05:46 SHIT Jul 26 04:05:47 IGNTNUNLMTD: I don't Jul 26 04:05:49 * haeffb has turned of the dings Jul 26 04:05:50 if I put oil on tibfib does it stop the multiplication Jul 26 04:05:51 IGNTNUNLMTD: understand Jul 26 04:05:57 yes Jul 26 04:06:01 Hrm, TouchPad exclusive to Harvey Norman when released in Australia? Even more reason to parallel import. Jul 26 04:06:05 Or do I get TibOil Jul 26 04:06:10 the tibfib dies in the oil Jul 26 04:06:16 ah ok great Jul 26 04:06:24 just like all those birds and fish Jul 26 04:06:26 correct Jul 26 04:06:31 you get a nice sautee of Tibfib Jul 26 04:06:33 we haven't evolved yet Jul 26 04:06:34 Hendikins: it costs lots of money to ship them from China to US and back to Oz. Jul 26 04:06:39 poor birds and fish Jul 26 04:06:52 "who got chocolate on my tibfib" Jul 26 04:06:53 there wasnt enough haeffb to save them Jul 26 04:07:01 see? no ding. Jul 26 04:07:01 haeffb: Amazon will ship me one for ~16.50. Jul 26 04:07:04 lol oil Jul 26 04:07:15 Or if I want it faster, courier is about $55 Jul 26 04:07:17 yeah, but they do it in bulk. Jul 26 04:07:26 or something. Jul 26 04:07:51 http://twitter.com/#!/ConanOBrien/status/16559582134 Jul 26 04:07:54 make rwhitby bring you one back. Jul 26 04:08:09 oil: Hhahaahahahahahaha Jul 26 04:08:10 haeffb: It is upwards of 100AUD cheaper for me to get the 32GB model shipped to me from Amazon by courier than it is to pay the Australian RRP. Crazy. Jul 26 04:08:28 oil: I think you'd appreciate this, http://www.humorsharing.com/funny-statistics/1005/ Jul 26 04:08:38 http://twitter.com/#!/StephenAtHome/status/16360461594 Jul 26 04:08:46 With standard shipping it is close to 170AUD difference. Jul 26 04:08:53 as a former US president loved to say, "I feel your pain." Jul 26 04:09:12 chocolate pelicans? Jul 26 04:09:57 wait, twitter was around a year ago? Jul 26 04:10:14 haeffb: a joke about the oil covering the birds in the gulf looking like chocolate Jul 26 04:10:20 haeffb: There is also the fact that Harvey Norman is known for lobbying to have the GST-free threshold on private imports reduced or eliminated. Jul 26 04:10:37 So I'd parallel import rather than buy from them out of sheer spite, even if it wasn't substantially cheaper. Jul 26 04:10:50 As would a lot of geeks. Jul 26 04:10:52 most people named Harvey are dicks. Jul 26 04:10:58 hahahaha Jul 26 04:11:03 so, I completely understand Jul 26 04:11:32 (unlike, strangely enough, most people named Dick) Jul 26 04:11:38 * Tibfib is going to name his kid harvey, and teach him not to be a dick Jul 26 04:11:56 lol Jul 26 04:12:02 * PatrickC has a G+ acct now Jul 26 04:12:07 eh, harvey honey doesn't sound too good Jul 26 04:12:07 what about harry Jul 26 04:12:12 We used to have a politician named Richard Face. It was really fitting. Jul 26 04:12:16 lied about your age? or stole someone else's Jul 26 04:12:19 PatrickC: send it my way Jul 26 04:12:26 an invite? Jul 26 04:12:32 no, your pokemon Jul 26 04:12:33 PatrickC: Your profile link! Jul 26 04:12:38 lol Jul 26 04:12:50 I want to google your + Jul 26 04:13:01 new pickup line? Jul 26 04:13:19 will only work on tibfib clones Jul 26 04:13:55 but the tibfib clones reproduce asexually, why would you want to "pickup" one. Jul 26 04:14:12 thats for twbbas to know and your clone to find out Jul 26 04:14:23 They Call me Hey Patrick C Jul 26 04:14:49 yeah? Jul 26 04:15:38 PatrickC: Still waiting on that G+ link... tsk tsk Jul 26 04:15:43 twbbas: where do I find that.. Jul 26 04:15:44 lol Jul 26 04:15:47 "I'm no meteorologist, but I'm pretty sure it's raining b*******." Jul 26 04:15:47 <|smash> hello. can someone help me out with dosbox and where dosbox.conf should live? Jul 26 04:15:50 Go to your profile and copy the url Jul 26 04:16:08 PatrickC add me on the G Jul 26 04:16:20 * oil brb\ Jul 26 04:16:30 What is this G+ thing you speak of Jul 26 04:16:51 Is that like G-Spot+? Jul 26 04:16:56 It's this new vitamin that is healthier than this other vitamin. It's supposedly going to run the old vitamin out of business. Jul 26 04:17:05 Oh nice Jul 26 04:17:15 * Tibfib nom nom nom Jul 26 04:17:29 G marks the + Jul 26 04:17:30 https://plus.google.com/?fd=1#108271766981774464956/posts Jul 26 04:17:31 <|smash> google's answer to social networking sites.. Jul 26 04:17:37 * haeffb refuses to give Google my phone number Jul 26 04:17:43 PatrickC: Added! Jul 26 04:17:50 cool Jul 26 04:17:51 (I know this) Jul 26 04:17:54 haeffb: I never did Jul 26 04:17:56 bitches can email me like everyone else. Jul 26 04:18:02 you don't have to give google your phone number Jul 26 04:18:14 haeffb: way to stick it to the man Jul 26 04:18:24 fxspec06: how do I find u? Jul 26 04:18:24 <|smash> revolt! Jul 26 04:18:30 the man being your cousin, who wanted to call you Jul 26 04:18:42 * twbbas goes away for the night Jul 26 04:18:47 <|smash> :p Jul 26 04:18:53 BOOO no picture pat Jul 26 04:19:00 night twbbas Jul 26 04:19:02 fxspec06: nope Jul 26 04:19:12 i'm so freaking tired Jul 26 04:19:24 I got on the desktop to create, created, got off Jul 26 04:19:58 i added u pat Jul 26 04:20:02 cool Jul 26 04:20:33 <|smash> dosbox.conf ? please? Jul 26 04:21:48 <|smash> I already googled my balls off looking for an answer.. Jul 26 04:22:13 g+ desktop looks horrid on the pre2 Jul 26 04:23:38 I use dosbox Jul 26 04:23:58 someone: make a g+ app Jul 26 04:24:18 PatrickC: pay me money Jul 26 04:24:23 no Jul 26 04:24:28 yes Jul 26 04:24:30 you do it, and sell it Jul 26 04:24:34 no Jul 26 04:24:36 then more then me pay you money Jul 26 04:24:37 you give me money Jul 26 04:24:39 and i do it Jul 26 04:24:40 MAYBE Jul 26 04:24:43 I'll give you $1 Jul 26 04:24:47 that's money Jul 26 04:24:48 :) Jul 26 04:24:55 try the desktop one Jul 26 04:25:00 no you give me $100 / hr Jul 26 04:25:03 ok webos? Jul 26 04:25:07 fxspec06: umm.. no Jul 26 04:25:10 and see if the flash hangout bit works Jul 26 04:25:29 flash hangout? i've had my g+ for 5min :) Jul 26 04:25:56 ooo lets all get together and "hang" out Jul 26 04:26:26 but... why would I want to see your ugly mugs Jul 26 04:27:35 dwc-: invite me to said hangout Jul 26 04:27:43 how do we hangout Jul 26 04:27:59 i'm too tired to hang out Jul 26 04:28:17 lol Jul 26 04:28:43 fxspec06: finish my mojo app Jul 26 04:28:48 I'll work on the enyo :) Jul 26 04:29:03 i'm going to the bed Jul 26 04:29:08 fine.. night Jul 26 04:29:18 i'm too tired to think Jul 26 04:29:19 you can maybe test the app when its ready ;) Jul 26 04:29:21 lol Jul 26 04:29:23 same here Jul 26 04:29:29 but I have to get work done... Jul 26 04:29:41 I have no hangout Jul 26 04:29:57 right hand side, start a hangout Jul 26 04:30:12 won't let me Jul 26 04:30:57 gooodnight everyone Jul 26 04:31:37 night Jul 26 04:31:46 night Jul 26 04:32:00 lies Jul 26 04:32:57 night Jul 26 04:33:01 everyone is going to bed Jul 26 04:33:05 day! Jul 26 04:33:18 is the mojo docs still included in the sdk for offline use Jul 26 04:33:21 ? Jul 26 04:33:52 where's your sdk? Jul 26 04:34:12 ok my machine Jul 26 04:34:30 on* Jul 26 04:34:46 well then .... Jul 26 04:39:26 <|smash> CTLAdvance, can you help me? Jul 26 04:40:13 * |smash will brb Jul 26 04:40:44 |smash: what's up? Jul 26 04:40:57 @awesomeapps_ we should have a contest to get you an avatar image. /via @webOSdev Jul 26 04:51:06 ok.. got audio code Jul 26 04:51:19 now just need to make a dashboard.. that requires a multistage app? Jul 26 05:00:14 mmm... we need a commericial where we have creapy lady, a whole bunch of random card swipes, and someone going "do you... touch... pad?" Jul 26 05:01:28 dwc-: mind telling me where the docs are located? I don't see them Jul 26 05:02:07 on my system? /opt/PalmSDK/ .... Jul 26 05:02:50 I see enyo in my C:/Program Files/ HP webOS Jul 26 05:02:54 but no mojo docs Jul 26 05:11:50 mojo jockys: ping Jul 26 05:13:09 how do I use "getValue" of a textfield to set the value of something? Jul 26 05:52:15 * rwhitby finishes first day in Portland Jul 26 05:52:57 I now have a touchpad case, keyboard, and 2 touchstones. Jul 26 05:53:30 and a topped-up US debit card for buying apps Jul 26 05:59:15 nice rwhitby Jul 26 05:59:28 I love the tp keyboard Jul 26 05:59:47 I wish the integration was a little better (card button+arrow keys etc) Jul 26 06:00:00 Good morning Jul 26 06:00:01 but the keyboard itself I will use for far longer then the tp :) Jul 26 06:00:06 good night? Jul 26 06:00:10 rwhitby! Jul 26 06:06:21 hey there Jul 26 07:32:11 wanting a sonos contoller app Jul 26 07:35:03 any one familiar with nodejs in webos ? Jul 26 07:49:31 cxreg: does it not exist? Jul 26 07:49:35 no Jul 26 07:49:39 or is it only iphone and android?= Jul 26 07:49:44 i dont think they've published an api Jul 26 07:49:48 and yes, those Jul 26 07:49:51 no they have not Jul 26 07:49:57 They make the apps themself :S Jul 26 07:50:03 irritating Jul 26 07:50:07 But maybe you could ping em? Jul 26 07:50:11 i was thinking of contacting someone there Jul 26 07:50:16 not just a forum post Jul 26 07:50:24 no i DM Jul 26 07:50:27 a* Jul 26 07:50:53 ? Jul 26 07:51:15 direct message Jul 26 07:51:18 email maybe Jul 26 07:52:31 actually, now that i think of it, i think their entire protocol is some UPNP stuff Jul 26 07:52:50 because someone wrote a cgi that interacts with it, and i read the source code Jul 26 07:53:24 this one: http://www.purple.org/sonos/ Jul 26 07:53:59 would be perfect for a node service Jul 26 07:54:03 ill have to play with that Jul 26 07:54:19 (not that code, but the architecture) Jul 26 07:59:46 hey . i have been trying to build a service with nodejs .. and want to include socket.io in it.. Jul 26 07:59:50 any one had done that before? Jul 26 08:00:23 not me Jul 26 08:02:44 how can you include a node plugin which is not present on the device Jul 26 08:05:55 ok Jul 26 08:05:58 can you just ship it? Jul 26 08:06:37 the official docs say "In addition, the active Node development community provides support and a rapidly growing library of modules that you can use in your webOS services" Jul 26 08:07:26 cxreg: but it would be sad to build a remote if they are buliding one as we speak :) Jul 26 08:07:35 nah Jul 26 08:07:41 it'd be a fun exercize either way Jul 26 08:08:30 wont they allow services to contain libraries inside it ? Jul 26 08:08:39 and can be loaded only for that servic e Jul 26 08:09:03 i would imagine Jul 26 08:10:04 not sure if anyone has had websockets working on webos yet Jul 26 08:10:31 lets see Jul 26 08:10:46 any ways i have manged to run an http server on it Jul 26 08:11:12 if you do write something like that be careful to make it reconnect friendly Jul 26 08:11:17 since losing connections will be common Jul 26 08:15:42 yea Jul 26 08:15:49 what i want is socket based connection.. Jul 26 08:16:02 it will any ways be doen using a token system. Jul 26 08:42:53 hey Jul 26 09:08:56 haeffb: btw i told simple about your app Jul 26 13:27:17 whatup Jul 26 13:27:31 to little Jul 26 13:29:33 Morning everyone Jul 26 13:29:58 morning, all Jul 26 13:32:13 good morning twbbas and HattCzech_work Jul 26 13:32:53 Anyone have G+ and want to be added to my webOS Community circle? Jul 26 13:33:05 hotdp, good morning to me too Jul 26 13:33:13 sure Jul 26 13:33:18 matbee whatup Jul 26 13:33:24 Send your link my way Jul 26 13:33:42 * hotdp fells like he is the only one in the world who does not have access to g+ Jul 26 13:34:13 had a scare this morn where touchpad would not boot even after multiple power center buttons taps Jul 26 13:34:22 twbbas: http://plus.tl/nick Jul 26 13:34:36 IGNTNUNLMTD: Added you last night :) Jul 26 13:34:39 Anyone a google reader user? Jul 26 13:34:43 ah, who are you? Jul 26 13:34:45 Tibfib_: Yes!!! Jul 26 13:34:48 Tibfib_ ME! Jul 26 13:34:53 IGNTNUNLMTD: Tyler Bayne Jul 26 13:35:00 my app ui is basically done Jul 26 13:35:01 ah, cool Jul 26 13:35:06 and I need to know if it doesn't suck Jul 26 13:35:11 is it Enyo? Jul 26 13:35:13 it's rough around the edges Jul 26 13:35:14 yep Jul 26 13:35:16 weet Jul 26 13:35:18 so wanna test it? Jul 26 13:35:18 sweet* Jul 26 13:35:20 sure Jul 26 13:35:24 https://plus.google.com/109107829747741626426/posts Jul 26 13:35:27 is that my link? :-/ Jul 26 13:35:40 IGNTNUNLMTD, twbbas: pm me your email Jul 26 13:35:43 if you want Jul 26 13:36:06 done. Jul 26 13:36:20 matbee: Added Jul 26 13:36:24 coolio Jul 26 13:36:45 woo 65 people in my webOS Community circle Jul 26 13:36:53 before 11pm last night, I didn't even have that circle Jul 26 13:37:04 haha Jul 26 13:37:05 nice Jul 26 13:37:20 I have my Pre2 on my profile pic Jul 26 13:37:54 twbbas, IGNTNUNLMTD: sent Jul 26 13:37:55 thanks! Jul 26 13:38:33 Tibfib: Got it Jul 26 13:38:43 I don't have a name yet, btw. Jul 26 13:39:20 no name? Jul 26 13:39:26 Got it Jul 26 13:39:28 "The Best Google Reader Client Ever" Jul 26 13:39:50 Tibfib, is it for pre or touchpad? Jul 26 13:40:12 touchpad Jul 26 13:40:33 but it'll probably work for the pre eventually Jul 26 13:41:17 Tibfib: Hmm, the login is spinning forever Jul 26 13:41:18 first impression = login screen = wow, very nice Jul 26 13:41:27 Yeah it looks great Jul 26 13:41:31 twbbas: YOU BROKE IT Jul 26 13:41:34 with regards to styling Jul 26 13:41:47 thanks Jul 26 13:41:52 Tibfib: It never got off of the spinner. Restarted app and it seems I'm logged in now Jul 26 13:41:59 twbbas: hmm weird Jul 26 13:42:06 oh, I may know Jul 26 13:42:08 oh man this is the best greader client Jul 26 13:42:11 looks so great Jul 26 13:42:20 ooooo Panes!@!! Jul 26 13:42:22 Love it Jul 26 13:42:23 spinning spinning spinning Jul 26 13:42:34 IGNTNUNLMTD: what is? Jul 26 13:42:52 I added a fallback ajax request but haven't tested it a lot so that's probably the issue Jul 26 13:43:01 how's performance? Jul 26 13:43:06 I like how it auto syncs as read Jul 26 13:43:10 performance is great Jul 26 13:43:11 nice and fast Jul 26 13:43:12 nevermind, I'm in now Jul 26 13:43:48 Tibfib: I love the dropdown thing when I hit feeds Jul 26 13:43:57 unusably slow on mine but I think I need a reboot Jul 26 13:44:02 a billion things open Jul 26 13:44:07 including Flash websites Jul 26 13:44:13 restarting my TouchPad Jul 26 13:44:18 hah nice Jul 26 13:44:24 Mine's nice and fast Jul 26 13:44:35 I hope I get that effect on reboot! Jul 26 13:44:46 Im Jul 26 13:44:49 oop Jul 26 13:45:03 Tibfib: I'm sure you're already working on this but I'd like to have the option to only see unread items Jul 26 13:45:13 It apparently only shows unread when I first hit All Jul 26 13:45:47 it is very much a work in progress :) Jul 26 13:45:51 Yeah Jul 26 13:45:56 but, it should only show unread if there are unread items ? Jul 26 13:46:12 Maybe that's what it did Jul 26 13:46:35 the snap scroller has been having issues when I change feeds, but I should be able to fix it Jul 26 13:46:38 it starts to slow down a bit after switching between a few different feeds Jul 26 13:46:44 Tibfib: I use Google Reader Jul 26 13:46:48 twbbas: How many feeds do you have? Jul 26 13:47:03 8 Jul 26 13:47:27 you? Jul 26 13:47:28 ah, I have like... 40 Jul 26 13:47:32 rwhitby: the app is pretty bare bones. I'll pass it along when it gets farther along Jul 26 13:47:32 O.o Jul 26 13:47:39 and for me there's a pretty big slowdown Jul 26 13:47:40 ok Jul 26 13:47:41 IGNTNUNLMTD: does the initial grid work with lots of icons? Jul 26 13:47:46 yeah Jul 26 13:47:57 does it extend past the screen? Jul 26 13:48:04 no Jul 26 13:48:12 I don't have 40 groups, I have 6 Jul 26 13:48:12 okay, I need to test that, I don't think it'll scroll Jul 26 13:48:16 oh. Jul 26 13:48:19 I have 40 feeds within various groups Jul 26 13:48:27 Tibfib, Mojo? Jul 26 13:48:32 it's enyo Jul 26 13:48:34 https://twitter.com/#!/webosinternals/status/95850396693700608 Jul 26 13:48:35 ah Jul 26 13:48:38 IGNTNUNLMTD: I can understand it is slow Jul 26 13:48:48 I am not very smart with updating the feed icons Jul 26 13:48:56 just trying to get a ui together Jul 26 13:49:01 right Jul 26 13:49:07 well your UI looks great Jul 26 13:49:35 +1 Jul 26 13:49:56 do you find yourself ever wanting to go back to the initial grid? Jul 26 13:50:06 instead of the horizontal scroller? Jul 26 13:50:14 nope Jul 26 13:50:18 Eh, yeah I'd like the option Jul 26 13:50:29 I don't know how much I'd use it over the scroller Jul 26 13:50:53 oh, so have an option for the "feeds" button Jul 26 13:51:08 Sounds good to me Jul 26 13:51:22 If I open a feed/folder and wait a few seconds before trying to scroll through the articles, it's fast/smoother Jul 26 13:53:58 I need to render the cards smartly Jul 26 13:54:05 they render in groups of 50 right now Jul 26 13:54:16 but I think I can do better Jul 26 13:56:32 you can do horizontal panes within vertical panes and vice versa, yeah? Jul 26 13:58:52 umm, I think so Jul 26 13:59:13 anyone know of a good nodejs host, other than nodester? Jul 26 14:05:28 no.de ? Jul 26 14:09:56 no.de is kind of official Jul 26 14:10:08 because it's operated by the folks who sponsor dev of nodejs Jul 26 14:10:18 so i'd think they'll probably do it correctly Jul 26 14:11:36 thanks Jul 26 14:11:55 can our nodejs on webos run websockets? Jul 26 14:12:29 holy crap! turns out those failed downloads DO turn into sales!!! =O Jul 26 14:12:40 eh? Jul 26 14:15:51 fxspec06: ? Jul 26 14:16:23 what are your figures looking like? Jul 26 14:22:13 Tibfib: if you figure out these speed issues and the rumored gfx acceleration arrives, this App is REALLY on to something Jul 26 14:22:57 IGNTNUNLMTD: thanks! Jul 26 14:23:32 you could probably sell a polished, finished version for 4-5 bucks Jul 26 14:23:49 because the Reader market on the TouchPad is FAR from saturated Jul 26 14:23:57 in fact, there are few good choices Jul 26 14:24:29 toss in Exhibition mode and notifications along with Twitter integration through a variety of apps, and you'll have THE best seller, no question. Jul 26 14:24:54 :) thanks Jul 26 14:25:01 hey Jul 26 14:25:31 wow, the new version of "Just Draw" is a world of difference Jul 26 14:25:33 SO much faster Jul 26 14:25:49 Tibfib: d'you need another tester? Jul 26 14:26:03 testing? where? Jul 26 14:26:06 summatusmentis: not at this point Jul 26 14:26:08 but I will soon Jul 26 14:26:13 mk, lemme know? Jul 26 14:26:18 will do Jul 26 14:26:20 Tibfib: lemme know too :) Jul 26 14:26:26 what are we testing lol Jul 26 14:26:32 Google Reader Jul 26 14:26:37 ah Jul 26 14:26:41 you need a catchy name, too Jul 26 14:26:43 I might start using it Jul 26 14:26:46 yes I do Jul 26 14:26:49 ReadMe Jul 26 14:26:51 no. Jul 26 14:27:31 I like the name feedster, but I think that already exists Jul 26 14:28:05 well it "died" Jul 26 14:28:26 ReadIt ? Jul 26 14:28:40 and ReadIt Lite Jul 26 14:28:48 I'd like to do something with "feed" Jul 26 14:28:57 FeedMe :P Jul 26 14:29:12 Feedah Jul 26 14:29:20 hahaahahaha Jul 26 14:29:27 TouchFeeds Jul 26 14:29:29 I bet oil would love that one Jul 26 14:29:36 :P Jul 26 14:29:40 IGNTNUNLMTD: lol Jul 26 14:29:48 Tibfib: touchpad? Jul 26 14:29:50 app.. Jul 26 14:29:54 yes. Jul 26 14:30:02 SlideFeeds Jul 26 14:30:04 Tibfib: call it NomNomNom Jul 26 14:30:13 lol Jul 26 14:30:15 haha I should Jul 26 14:30:27 * PatrickC still likes Feedah Jul 26 14:30:39 "NomNomNom (Google Reader)" Jul 26 14:30:40 PatrickC: people would think I'm just copying off of "Feeder" Jul 26 14:30:50 so far, rwhitby is the closest Jul 26 14:30:58 didn't know there was a feeder app Jul 26 14:31:11 * rwhitby uses Feeder currently Jul 26 14:31:11 there is. Pretty popular on pre Jul 26 14:31:16 The FeedMaster Jul 26 14:31:54 I kind of like NomNomNom. Jul 26 14:32:08 rwhitby: Same, but it's not nearly as good on the TouchPad as it is on the Pre 2 Jul 26 14:32:16 IGNTNUNLMTD: agreed Jul 26 14:32:43 until I saw Tibfib's app, I was just waiting for a basic 3-pane type thing Jul 26 14:33:18 I started with a basic 3 pane, and realized I don't want to use a greader with that ui Jul 26 14:33:24 what if you just did "Feed" Jul 26 14:33:25 lol Jul 26 14:33:29 can you even? Jul 26 14:33:59 probably not Jul 26 14:34:39 oh sorry guys Jul 26 14:34:43 well, I'm going to change the app name to NomNomNom until (if?) I get something better Jul 26 14:35:12 Tibfib: you need the extra (Google Reader) for recognition and search Jul 26 14:35:22 NomNomNom for Google Reader Jul 26 14:35:33 yep, that will do it Jul 26 14:35:51 of course I get a promo code for naming it ;) Jul 26 14:36:04 rwatkins: of course :) Jul 26 14:36:12 oh, rwhitby can have one too Jul 26 14:36:18 rwhitby: first week of my app in the catalog, yesterday I noticed 16 failed transactions, and this morning the number of failed transactions went down to 6, and my sales numbers reflected accordingly Jul 26 14:36:48 fxspec06: if a credit card transaction is denied, it is retried after the user updates their info Jul 26 14:37:14 happened to me today after I forgot to register my new simon.com card before using it to buy NFS/TP Jul 26 14:37:35 oh yeah you can use those cards too. i always forget those are an option Jul 26 14:37:54 it's the only option for me Jul 26 14:39:34 Now I need a face eating an rss feed for my icon Jul 26 14:40:49 http://www.iconfinder.com/icondetails/47423/88/feed_meat_rss_icon Jul 26 14:40:51 hah ? Jul 26 14:41:08 oooh: http://www.iconfinder.com/icondetails/47418/128/feed_fruit_melon_rss_icon Jul 26 14:41:18 http://webdevilaz.com/wp/wp-content/themes/webdevilaz/images/rss.png Jul 26 14:41:25 http://www.ibizard.com/images/rss_feed_icon.png Jul 26 14:42:01 hahaha a toast icon: http://www.iconfinder.com/icondetails/47430/85/feed_food_rss_toast_icon Jul 26 14:42:02 heh, I like the cup one Jul 26 14:42:16 hah, toast or melon Jul 26 14:42:19 I like the melon one a lot Jul 26 14:42:23 Yeah, same Jul 26 14:43:36 oh dang, the background isn't transparent Jul 26 14:48:23 Tibfib: is the end goal actual syncing w/ greader? or is it like mosaic where it'll download your feeds from google reader, but not sync with your account? Jul 26 14:48:48 yeah it'll sync Jul 26 14:48:52 I don't know how mosaic works Jul 26 14:49:10 but this properly marks things as read and so forth Jul 26 14:50:00 that's exactly what I'm asking Jul 26 14:50:12 yay, finally implemented serverside guid hashing/verification Jul 26 14:50:12 good, you'll likely have a customer out of me then Jul 26 14:50:20 gg nodejs Jul 26 14:50:35 I just have to implement my own in-app purchasing and I'm good to go Jul 26 14:53:24 * PatrickC wanders back in Jul 26 14:54:17 Tibfib: screenshot? Jul 26 14:54:26 no thanks Jul 26 14:54:39 ok Jul 26 14:55:27 I wonder if I'm the only Aussie who is disappointed with the TouchPad release arrangements here. Jul 26 14:57:03 add me to your g+ http://w.matbee.com/gpl Jul 26 14:58:39 I tried Jul 26 14:58:47 it brought me to google buzz Jul 26 14:59:52 feedah :/ Jul 26 15:01:09 :) Jul 26 15:05:53 oil: :) Jul 26 15:06:09 it is not something to smile about Jul 26 15:06:21 lol Jul 26 15:36:43 halfhalo doesn't work Jul 26 15:36:59 that may be true... Jul 26 15:40:25 ugh Jul 26 15:42:46 * halfhalo-work is waiting for vmware to download. he needs his vms up in here Jul 26 15:43:10 wow this survey is horribly made Jul 26 15:43:20 i have to click buttons like 50 times before they work Jul 26 15:45:42 hrm doesnt work in firefox or ie.. wtf Jul 26 15:58:40 hrmm, what's the proper enyo way to open a url? Jul 26 15:59:08 window.location.href? (aka no idea) Jul 26 15:59:23 ah that could be it Jul 26 16:00:03 window.location is it Jul 26 16:01:23 "proper" or "works"? Jul 26 16:01:47 you can call applicationManager but window.open() seems easier. Jul 26 16:02:35 rwatkins: https://developer.palm.com/distribution/viewtopic.php?p=81664#p81664 Jul 26 16:03:02 window.open(url) seems to work as well Jul 26 16:03:05 I like that better Jul 26 16:04:21 yea, seems cleaner. though for some reason the windows dont all stack. just the first one. Jul 26 16:05:24 hey chuq. little flurry of activity there on the googles, eh? Jul 26 16:05:51 rwatkins: ben had a reply to that on the forums Jul 26 16:06:18 Tibfib: ya, but that just seems .. wrong. Jul 26 16:06:27 yeah it does Jul 26 16:07:23 Lumiere: so if the patch must be rooted at / then what subdir should the version I diff against be stored in? doesnt seem to be documented Jul 26 16:13:53 dangit Jul 26 16:13:59 ctrl + r resets the emu fyi. Jul 26 16:14:19 very close to the command to go fullscreen Jul 26 16:16:17 patrickc: g+ mobile is kinda broken on webos Jul 26 16:17:14 then again, so is picasa, so it's got some good history there Jul 26 16:35:20 dwc-: i've seen Jul 26 16:39:32 dwc-: google chat mobile is messed up On webos too.. soo Jul 26 17:05:37 Tibfib: Even though NomNomNom isn't done yet, I find myself using it instead of going to the Reader site Jul 26 17:06:10 I'll be one of your first buyers when it comes out ;) Jul 26 17:07:17 twbbas: that good? Jul 26 17:07:55 Yup Jul 26 17:08:45 cool Jul 26 17:08:50 I'll start using greader Jul 26 17:11:28 any free apps out? Jul 26 17:11:34 id like to try before I buy Jul 26 17:12:41 http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=Uodo-e07ESw - the Facebook for iPad app has webOS style sliding panes Jul 26 17:13:58 lots of free rss readers. Not sure which ones sync with google reader though Jul 26 17:14:21 akanster: I see enyo on the ipad soon.. hopefully.. Jul 26 17:14:29 looks enough like it :) Jul 26 17:16:09 Tibfib: will NomNomNom do podcasts too? Jul 26 17:16:09 twbbas: aww, thanks Jul 26 17:16:26 eventually I guess Jul 26 17:16:43 twbbas: I'll be sure to send you and IGNTNUNLMTD updates Jul 26 17:16:49 awesome Jul 26 17:17:05 Tibfib: I know it's you're no where near finishing it but a suggestion is to have the option to load the site in a pane Jul 26 17:17:20 For example, TIMN rss feed doesn't show the whole article Jul 26 17:17:24 twbbas: I've pretty much done that Jul 26 17:17:31 Is it in my version? Jul 26 17:17:34 no Jul 26 17:17:36 ok Jul 26 17:17:41 there's a browser button to switch to a webview Jul 26 17:17:45 Nice Jul 26 17:17:48 exactly what I want Jul 26 17:17:49 :D Jul 26 17:18:09 it doesn't work well in chrome, and my emu is super slow so I won't be able to perfect until I get my touchpad Jul 26 17:20:15 twbbas: I wonder why some sites restrict their RSS feed contents like TIMN ? Jul 26 17:21:36 Tibfib: wait, you're actually going to call it NomNomNom? Jul 26 17:21:38 rwhitby: Probably to get more views on their site. Jul 26 17:21:39 lol Jul 26 17:21:52 IGNTNUNLMTD: I actually am, until I get a better name Jul 26 17:22:06 twbbas: their site that doesn't have ads... Jul 26 17:22:16 so it's not like they're making money with more views Jul 26 17:23:08 IGNTNUNLMTD: I think NomNomNom is an awesome name ... Jul 26 17:23:31 I'd love to hear your reasoning Jul 26 17:23:45 You consume your feeds with the app Jul 26 17:23:52 FeedMe! Jul 26 17:23:53 NomNomNOm Jul 26 17:24:26 you could call it Mogwai Jul 26 17:24:59 "Don't read your feeds after midnight" Jul 26 17:25:21 lol Jul 26 17:25:57 hah Jul 26 17:28:38 erggg, I need a touchpad to test Jul 26 17:30:34 ugh why wont it upload to youtube.. argh! Jul 26 17:32:28 apparently you cant add info to the video otherwise it fails Jul 26 17:32:31 wtf Jul 26 17:34:14 is there any data storage available to services other than db8? no localStorage or webSQL I assume? Jul 26 17:38:34 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j7PBZOaw4Yg Jul 26 17:47:23 got some more UI done yesterday.. Jul 26 17:47:38 I'm gonna get most the UI done, then the underlying things.. Jul 26 17:52:20 ugh. basic web views log a lot Jul 26 18:06:12 I wish there was good documentation on flyweights Jul 26 18:13:05 woo new humblebundle Jul 26 18:16:53 also, nearly ALL widgets should have the current state be "value" Jul 26 18:17:00 not "checked", "state", or "value" Jul 26 18:18:02 yer Jul 26 18:18:08 like other framworks Jul 26 18:29:00 ugg.. stupid freehost Jul 26 18:29:24 lol Jul 26 18:29:44 auto installer used to work Jul 26 18:29:47 doesn't anymore Jul 26 18:30:07 ugh stupid Jul 26 18:31:00 fxspec06: it'll be a few days till the forum is up Jul 26 18:31:20 ooh. Can you not store objects in localStorage? Jul 26 18:31:31 I think you can only store strings Jul 26 18:31:46 a few days?!?!?! but it's been down for way more than that!! Jul 26 18:32:09 yeah Jul 26 18:32:19 been trying to get it up since it went down Jul 26 18:32:34 had nothing but trouble Jul 26 18:32:38 you might wanna see a doctor about that Jul 26 18:33:26 the doctor can't fix this.. lol Jul 26 18:33:57 lol Jul 26 18:34:28 * fxspec06 thinks the joke went sailing over patrick's head Jul 26 18:35:19 any updates to the app lately? Jul 26 18:35:30 brb gotta reboot Jul 26 18:39:33 Tibfib: you can store objects in localstore Jul 26 18:39:39 i do it all the time at work Jul 26 18:39:45 hrmmmmm Jul 26 18:39:55 Have you found the solution or do you want it? Jul 26 18:40:05 I started doing json parsing Jul 26 18:40:13 butttt, I must be doing something wrong Jul 26 18:40:49 Storage.prototype.setObject = function(key, value) { this.setItem(key, JSON.stringify(value)); } Storage.prototype.getObject = function(key) { return JSON.parse(this.getItem(key)); } Jul 26 18:40:50 back Jul 26 18:41:02 http://stackoverflow.com/questions/2010892/storing-objects-in-html5-localstorage Jul 26 18:41:15 Thats what i do and i use it all the time. Work great Jul 26 18:41:21 hotdp: oh, that's what I was moving toward Jul 26 18:41:28 you aren't aaaccctually storing objects Jul 26 18:41:33 no Jul 26 18:41:36 thats not posible Jul 26 18:41:37 :) Jul 26 18:41:45 that was my question :) Jul 26 18:41:54 but if you implement thoose to methods you have em ;) Jul 26 18:42:01 i know.. Jul 26 18:42:07 they are not there out of the box Jul 26 18:42:09 :) Jul 26 18:42:52 fxspec06: i've made a little progress on the mojo Jul 26 18:42:56 I store json object that are around 500kb Jul 26 18:43:02 and it works perfect Jul 26 18:43:10 does anyone know if i can bypass invalid https certificates on sites? instead of the 'unable to load certificate [2060]' error? Jul 26 18:44:06 hotdp: the only problem with that is it won't keep dates as a date object Jul 26 18:44:28 so you'll have to do new Date(dateStr) after bringing it back into an object Jul 26 18:45:03 well, it MIGHT recognize it on it's own... haven't tested it yet Jul 26 18:51:05 <|smash> hello fellow humans., Jul 26 18:51:52 <|smash> running windows 3.1 on a palm pre = haha! Jul 26 18:52:17 Well if the Pre can run dosbox, why not? Jul 26 18:52:36 3.1 = hurrah! Jul 26 18:55:42 <|smash> the mouse is wayyyy off tho. so dosshell. Jul 26 18:59:47 <|smash> tetrips won't run well.. hmm.. Jul 26 19:01:23 <|smash> so I accidentally went to efnet #webos and the topic was '1.4.5 is out!' lol Jul 26 19:02:58 lol Jul 26 19:04:17 <|smash> right? I guess I was a little excited at the time... Jul 26 19:04:53 howdy folks Jul 26 19:04:58 <|smash> hello Jul 26 19:05:21 <|smash> are you a texan!? Jul 26 19:06:41 <|smash> no matter. just curious. :p I listen to alex jones.. as crazy as he is. Jul 26 19:08:03 yeah, but do not live in texas anymore Jul 26 19:08:15 live in california Jul 26 19:08:21 socal =) Jul 26 19:09:25 <|smash> you like it more? Jul 26 19:09:38 yeap, i love san diego Jul 26 19:09:58 was in san diego last week Jul 26 19:10:02 back in texas Jul 26 19:10:06 fuck texas (for the weather) Jul 26 19:10:10 i went to school in austin texas, which is very nice, but has nothing on SD Jul 26 19:10:11 wish Iw as back in san diego Jul 26 19:10:40 have been away from san diego for like 2 months, in mexico right now, but will be back in SD soon Jul 26 19:10:56 yeah weather, ocean, beach rocks! Jul 26 19:12:46 <|smash> gotta go find parts for ma bike! later. Jul 26 19:13:02 ok later, need to eat lunch soon Jul 26 19:13:02 ah Jul 26 19:13:08 this install script seems to work Jul 26 19:14:23 twbbas, IGNTNUNLMTD: check yo mail Jul 26 19:14:40 PatrickC: what u installing? Jul 26 19:14:57 Concrete5, Wordpress, and phpBB atm Jul 26 19:16:38 Tibfib: Installing. Jul 26 19:16:47 Mmmmmmmmmmmmm Wordpress Jul 26 19:16:49 my favorite Jul 26 19:16:58 nice, all-in-one Jul 26 19:17:20 anyone have a google+ invite to give? Jul 26 19:17:49 to much news about it, and can't even access it... Jul 26 19:17:59 also me :D Jul 26 19:18:07 LoneStar99: PM me your gmail address Jul 26 19:18:30 same with hotdp Jul 26 19:18:31 IGNTNUNLMTD: do you have one more ? :D Jul 26 19:18:48 both of you, PM me yo' stuff Jul 26 19:19:31 LoneStar99... waiting! Jul 26 19:19:58 hotdp: Sent! Jul 26 19:20:38 thanks, waiting for a recive :D Jul 26 19:27:20 I keep getting this error when I install the SDK, any idea why? http://b-w.es/8nuL Jul 26 19:31:32 hotdp PM me your gmail, gonna add you to my google+ Jul 26 19:32:02 ugg.. softaculous is messing up.. :/ Jul 26 19:33:58 Tibfib_: Got it Jul 26 19:34:49 brb lunch time Jul 26 19:39:27 Tibfib_: You there? Jul 26 19:44:38 does anyone know if i can bypass invalid https certificates on sites? instead of the 'unable to load certificate [2060]' error? Jul 26 19:45:08 just to clarify, people I just invited to G+... that's not my Porsche Jul 26 19:45:10 lol Jul 26 19:45:38 woot! Browser patch 'Save to Paper Mache' now in Preware feeds Jul 26 19:46:25 I need to make an app that mines bitcoins in the background on people's phones Jul 26 19:46:43 IGNTNUNLMTD: nice porshe though! Jul 26 19:47:00 "gee why does funatrons app drain my battery like crazy?" Jul 26 19:54:13 holy shit, Tibfib_: the new version is SO fast Jul 26 19:54:21 idk what you did Jul 26 19:54:26 but the speed issue is pretty much gone Jul 26 19:55:25 also, the popup for choosing what you want to see is sort of unintuitive Jul 26 19:55:53 instead, put that list as a dropdown on the black bar next to the "Feeds" button Jul 26 19:56:03 so you can filter while you read Jul 26 19:56:11 bbl Jul 26 19:57:52 ugh Jul 26 19:58:08 I found a bug, was able to reproduce it, and now I can't reproduce it using the SAME steps I wrote down Jul 26 19:58:19 this is in NomNomNom Jul 26 19:59:07 haha Jul 26 19:59:20 seriously, this app has SO much potential Jul 26 20:00:51 ugh this is so annoying Jul 26 20:01:04 now TibFib's gonna get my email and be like.... what? Jul 26 20:01:19 because I explain the bug in the first half and then say that the bug isn't there in the second half of the email Jul 26 20:01:47 bbl, thanks again IGNTNUNLMTD Jul 26 20:01:55 not a problem Jul 26 20:01:58 glad I could help! Jul 26 20:02:40 http://www.google.com/mobile/+/ where is webos? Jul 26 20:02:54 nowhere, like usual Jul 26 20:03:07 It's in the list of dumbphones Jul 26 20:03:18 go to other phones Jul 26 20:07:38 Yet again, like 4SQ, it's up to someone or some people in the webOS community to build an app that puts the official ones to shame. Jul 26 20:10:42 except there is no official one :P Jul 26 20:12:59 those G+ apps aren't official? Jul 26 20:13:59 IGNTNUNLMTD: the feed popup is just a placeholder Jul 26 20:14:01 it sucks right now Jul 26 20:14:05 ah k Jul 26 20:14:13 it's going to be a popup with feed icons Jul 26 20:14:17 in a sexy way Jul 26 20:14:23 what do you think of my idea, though? Jul 26 20:14:24 twbbas: I can't replicate in chrome Jul 26 20:14:40 hmmmm b2g ehhh Jul 26 20:14:49 like a "Filter" when the pane is already open? Jul 26 20:15:00 not sure what you mean Jul 26 20:15:10 I'll work on it later tonight Jul 26 20:16:59 Tibfib: I can't reproduce it anymore Jul 26 20:17:02 twbbas: I'll check the bug out once I get a Touchpad Jul 26 20:17:04 I don't know what changed Jul 26 20:17:05 heh Jul 26 20:17:20 I typed up all those instructions on how to do it and then I tried it once more just for good measure and it doesn't work anymore lol Jul 26 20:17:53 hahah Jul 26 20:18:06 Tibfib: One thing though, my touchpad has restarted twice in the past 15 minutes when using the app Jul 26 20:18:20 It probably randomly restarts once a week before today Jul 26 20:18:24 It may be related Jul 26 20:18:37 hmmmmm Jul 26 20:18:43 Could it be related to the web view? Jul 26 20:18:43 restart Luna, or full reboot? Jul 26 20:18:46 luna Jul 26 20:18:52 like 10-15 sec load time Jul 26 20:18:52 once again, I need a touchpad Jul 26 20:19:02 it probably has to do with the webview Jul 26 20:19:05 Tibfib: I've noticed that when I open up multiple browser cards is the only time it randomly restarts Jul 26 20:19:05 they seem to be lame. Jul 26 20:19:18 I find that mucking about with layout in some odd ways kills luna from time to time. Jul 26 20:19:21 and I was viewing multiple webviews Jul 26 20:19:28 well, not at the same time but maybe they were still running? Jul 26 20:19:33 only on the device really tho. Jul 26 20:20:08 have some code that resizes margin/spacing/fonts and then measures and reformats the page .. sometimes kills luna. Jul 26 20:20:12 not a webview tho Jul 26 20:21:12 nomnomnom is just almost usable Jul 26 20:21:46 s/almost/about/ Jul 26 20:22:38 I think I need a touchpad before I can call it usable Jul 26 20:39:37 Tibfib_: It's pretty usable for me :D. All I really wanted was a reader that syncs with Google Reader and uses Enyo widgets Jul 26 20:39:54 and named NomNomNom Jul 26 20:40:19 sync for offline. all content apps should sync and cache for offline, particulary on TP. Jul 26 20:40:50 eventually Jul 26 20:41:26 I need to turn the server requests into a node.js service first Jul 26 20:41:31 then I'll have it store stuff Jul 26 20:42:15 then youre stuck to using db8 and its pathetic storage limits tho Jul 26 20:43:03 db8'll work fine Jul 26 20:43:09 I'm going to cull data Jul 26 20:44:16 its a shared limit - how much are you going to limit your app too? and hope everyone else plays nice. Jul 26 20:45:05 I'll just store the unread articles, and a few past read ones Jul 26 20:45:09 and starred ones Jul 26 20:46:08 I need to think about it and figure out the best way to go. Jul 26 20:46:11 bbbbbbbbbbbllll Jul 26 20:46:13 There we go, got the tweet from the power user w/ 5800 followers. thx Adora! Jul 26 20:47:51 =] Jul 26 20:48:27 any plans to add post to tumblr integration? Jul 26 20:48:46 I can't really use the app until I can highlight quotes to post Jul 26 20:49:37 you can share a link to Tumblr, but talking with Ben its seems like text selection isnt possible really, unless I try and rebuild everything the native webkit does. Jul 26 20:50:33 I can make the whole section content-editable, but that would force the keyboard to display .. so also a non-starter. Jul 26 20:51:08 its way up on the list though, so when I can I'll get it. Jul 26 20:57:18 ok, good to hear Jul 26 21:01:09 bye all Jul 26 21:04:13 hey Jul 26 21:04:33 tomorrow is the last day palm has to get in touch... Jul 26 21:05:28 no palm people on to rant to lol Jul 26 21:06:35 what happens in 2 days? You gonna walk into Palm with a torch and pitchfork? Jul 26 21:06:52 "I want my dev discount! and I want it NOW!" Jul 26 21:07:16 yep Jul 26 21:07:56 I'll march right into halfhalo-work's office Jul 26 21:08:10 you have to find it first! Jul 26 21:08:36 that won't be too hard.. I'll ask the front desk where to find Mr. Half Halo Jul 26 21:08:58 twbbas: you like the slogan from twitter? :) Jul 26 21:09:09 Ya. I said so :D Jul 26 21:09:34 now.. if only I could get a website working.... Jul 26 21:10:06 when its all done, there will be a web interface that mimiks the app Jul 26 21:10:18 w/ profile, etc. I have a lot planned Jul 26 21:10:57 I can tell you more of what it will have over PM Jul 26 21:12:23 PatrickC: Ping me when you get on a computer. I want to show you that video for inspiration for your icon Jul 26 21:12:42 twbbas: ok.. probably won't be for a while Jul 26 21:16:05 twbbas: what's the link.. lemme try something Jul 26 21:33:39 PatrickC: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HDEgCkLtELQ Jul 26 21:33:55 what time in the video? Jul 26 21:34:13 pulled up this time Jul 26 21:34:26 * twbbas goes to look for the time Jul 26 21:34:33 thx Jul 26 21:35:51 1:15 lol Jul 26 21:36:02 and 1:22 Jul 26 21:36:21 pretty much the last 45 secs Jul 26 21:37:01 I'm almost tempted to vote for this guy for President lolllll Jul 26 21:37:25 PatrickC: I'm interested in the mojo beta Jul 26 21:37:39 ok Jul 26 21:37:50 so, the guy holding a boombox? Jul 26 21:38:27 yeah lol Jul 26 21:38:30 Jimmy! Jul 26 21:38:47 * PatrickC looks at current icon Jul 26 21:38:55 that's eventually the goal :) Jul 26 21:40:14 The Rent is Too Damn High Party makes me laugh everytime Jul 26 21:40:22 I will try and get the UI finished up tonight Jul 26 21:40:32 I didn't even listen to it lol Jul 26 21:40:48 lol you should watch Jimmy McMillan's videos sometime Jul 26 21:40:52 he was in a debate last august Jul 26 21:41:37 arg... now I can't post the source... Jul 26 21:41:49 I really need to find a good freehost Jul 26 21:41:53 one that's reliable Jul 26 21:42:33 Yo Jul 26 21:42:43 hey webOSNewbie Jul 26 21:42:45 My image won't center Jul 26 21:42:51 'afternoon peopke Jul 26 21:42:53 people* Jul 26 21:42:55 dammit Jul 26 21:43:01 I've tried everything! Jul 26 21:43:36 hey IGNTNUNLMTD Jul 26 21:44:09 CSS has: img { Jul 26 21:44:09 float: none; Jul 26 21:44:09 border-width: 0px Jul 26 21:44:09 }v Jul 26 21:44:41 but one of the two images is on the far right Jul 26 21:46:08 how do I center the image? Jul 26 21:46:54
Jul 26 21:47:03 old school style Jul 26 21:47:16 * webOSNewbie forgot about that Jul 26 21:47:29 rwatkins: You the Paper Mache guy right? Jul 26 21:47:40 ya Jul 26 21:47:55 https://twitter.com/#!/webOSDaily/status/95971246604419072 Jul 26 21:48:27 woot! nice. Jul 26 21:48:30 center an image using css? Jul 26 21:48:56 if it's a block-level element, "margin: 0px auto" Jul 26 21:49:13 img counts, i thinl Jul 26 21:49:20 think Jul 26 21:49:53 why do all good freehosts require your personal info... Jul 26 21:50:01 because they're free Jul 26 21:50:09 pay hosts require even more Jul 26 21:50:10 lol Jul 26 21:50:15 like WordPress? Jul 26 21:50:24 I'm talking, address, phone number, dob, etc. Jul 26 21:50:28 I use 1&1 Jul 26 21:50:30 webOSNewbie: no.. a real webhost Jul 26 21:50:51 are private messages in red? Jul 26 21:51:17 nope Jul 26 21:51:20 just mentions Jul 26 21:51:28 mentions? Jul 26 21:51:42 "rockstar patch maker" ha! that was like a dozen lines of cookie cutter code for the Patch. Jul 26 21:51:58 Path? Jul 26 21:52:01 Patch? Jul 26 21:52:04 webOSNewbie: when someone says your name Jul 26 21:52:19 http://www.webosdaily.com/post/8100334163/add-to-paper-mache-from-browser-patch-available-in Jul 26 21:52:25 how do you do mentions? Jul 26 21:52:33 say someone's name Jul 26 21:52:36 like hey rwatkins Jul 26 21:53:04 beetlejuice Beetlejuice BEETLEJUICE! Jul 26 21:53:34 beetlejuice? Jul 26 21:53:48 yep Jul 26 21:53:53 hey rwatkins Jul 26 21:53:59 80's movie reference Jul 26 21:54:04 oh Jul 26 21:54:08 ha Jul 26 21:54:22 hey rwatkins Jul 26 21:54:35 Anyone remember the Muppet Show? Jul 26 21:57:30 This seems rather not good: error: Uncaught SyntaxError: Unexpected token ILLEGAL, index.html:1 Jul 26 21:57:46 token? Jul 26 22:03:02 haeffb_: illegal aliens Jul 26 22:03:11 We have too many Jul 26 22:03:49 jsAnim is nice Jul 26 22:04:11 What's jsAnim? Jul 26 22:04:22 google is your friend Jul 26 22:04:26 fine. Jul 26 22:04:35 google is your enemy! Jul 26 22:04:42 enemy Jul 26 22:04:46 oh. Jul 26 22:05:10 my mistake Jul 26 22:05:59 jsAnim does look pretty cool Jul 26 22:06:06 hmm, so it's chuqui behind all the google+ spam on twitter? Jul 26 22:06:20 I couldn't get on Jul 26 22:06:26 maybe it's oil Jul 26 22:06:35 Hi gokr Jul 26 22:07:10 hey Jul 26 22:09:16 protip: tweaking opacity is a good way to makes things look better. rgba is awesome Jul 26 22:09:49 except when it doesnt work right on the emulator. Jul 26 22:10:25 * Tibfib doesn't use the emu much Jul 26 22:10:45 nice. you have no device and you dont use the emulator much. :) Jul 26 22:11:04 chrome ftw. Jul 26 22:11:11 indeed. Jul 26 22:11:19 there's nothing the emulator helps me with Jul 26 22:11:22 I need a device Jul 26 22:11:29 dev in crome is far and away the best feature of enyo. Jul 26 22:11:37 +3535353533 Jul 26 22:12:13 encapsulation? yea, kinda nice. dev in Chrome? simply awesome. Jul 26 22:12:55 ireland... Jul 26 22:12:59 eire Jul 26 22:13:41 I use the emulator for everything Jul 26 22:13:50 can't afford device Jul 26 22:15:11 what is dev in chrome? Jul 26 22:15:29 what's encapsulation? Jul 26 22:15:35 ... Jul 26 22:16:33 .... Jul 26 22:16:38 NOW NOW Jul 26 22:16:42 let's be welcoming Jul 26 22:16:48 webOSNewbie: Being able to develop the UI and test it in Chrome on your desktop. Encapsulation refers (I presume) to the improved OO abilities of the Enyo framework. Jul 26 22:16:58 Oh. Jul 26 22:16:58 what gokr said Jul 26 22:17:20 he's younger than patrick C Jul 26 22:17:20 I'm only 12 Jul 26 22:17:26 Cool. Jul 26 22:17:37 I started with computers when I was 12. Jul 26 22:17:48 before 18 months Jul 26 22:18:17 But that was in a galaxy faaar away. ZX81. Atari 400. Jul 26 22:19:44 Played on parents' computers until I got one at 18 months Jul 26 22:19:51 laptop followed Jul 26 22:19:52 webOSNewbie: I am a webOS noob too btw. Jul 26 22:22:04 * webOSNewbie is more noob than gokr Jul 26 22:23:44 The box I had the most fun with was clearly the C64. Hands down. It went downhill from there. Jul 26 22:23:57 the what? Jul 26 22:24:02 * gokr wanders off in memory lane... Jul 26 22:24:10 Commodore C64. Jul 26 22:24:29 with 64K memory? Jul 26 22:24:35 Yup. Plenty! Jul 26 22:25:03 We even built custom hardware for it. Jul 26 22:25:23 Was great fun. But, hey, this is not that channel. Jul 26 22:25:59 My dad told me about Atari Centipede Jul 26 22:26:57 Ah, yeah. Jul 26 22:27:22 let's make it that channel. Jul 26 22:28:08 my first computer at about 10 - apple IIe Jul 26 22:28:13 maybe yonger Jul 26 22:28:36 * Loudergood rewinds funkatron to his younger days Jul 26 22:29:12 that ruled Jul 26 22:29:15 LoneStar99: Then you may be my age. Jul 26 22:29:20 * webOSNewbie can't make heads or tails in this prehistoric conversation Jul 26 22:29:49 But I never had an Apple. Atari400 (finger hurt, hard keyboard), C64, Amiga500, PCs... Jul 26 22:29:55 sorry apple iic Jul 26 22:29:57 not e Jul 26 22:30:14 Apple iMac G3 Jul 26 22:30:17 I got a 386 when I was 11...before that it was all jealous of my friend's C64 Jul 26 22:30:43 My Dad has a copy of Windows 3.1.2 Jul 26 22:30:51 It was Chinese only Jul 26 22:31:02 My mom is from Taiwan Jul 26 22:32:16 webOSNewbie: Where are you from? US? Jul 26 22:32:22 Colorado Jul 26 22:32:44 I don't look like it, though Jul 26 22:33:10 * Loudergood wonders what someone from colorado is supposed to look like.. Jul 26 22:33:22 An American, with a slight tan Jul 26 22:33:28 from snow or sun Jul 26 22:33:39 I look pale and Asian Jul 26 22:33:59 With two brown welts on my face Jul 26 22:34:14 I think I fell asleep on my popper yesterday night Jul 26 22:34:27 Loudergood: lol. Jul 26 22:34:33 that would cause the welts Jul 26 22:34:44 college computer was a gatewy 486DX2 55mhz Jul 26 22:35:00 I have a Palm V Jul 26 22:35:07 battery life is amazing! Jul 26 22:36:19 Ah, 486DX2 etc, those we imported - a couple of friends and me. And sold with good profit. Jul 26 22:36:38 I love Ubuntu Jul 26 22:36:39 I have some Palms in a box here, don't know what to do with them. Jul 26 22:36:53 I'll take them! Jul 26 22:37:36 Phew... bumped my webOS Circle on G+ from 65 to 137 people Jul 26 22:37:47 took a while Jul 26 22:38:52 gokr they where expensive back in the day Jul 26 22:39:06 i remember buying a palm V for something on the order of $400 or such? Jul 26 22:39:19 I still think they rock Jul 26 22:39:28 wyld stallyns Jul 26 22:39:30 I have some of the newer ones. A TX? And one with wifi. Jul 26 22:40:02 And a Treo650 :) Jul 26 22:40:57 i dont really like to keep electronics around once they become useless, but i find the local goodwill has some use for just about everything Jul 26 22:41:19 I can use almost anything Jul 26 22:41:20 * rwatkins wonders whats broke with Spotify that its not available on the TP. Jul 26 22:41:30 I have a tiny allowance Jul 26 22:41:42 define tiny, if you dont mind Jul 26 22:41:47 I have 12 Jul 26 22:41:49 rwatkins: I think there's some backend service it uses to do networking stuff Jul 26 22:41:50 i am curious what kids get for allowance these days Jul 26 22:41:54 12 dollars Jul 26 22:41:57 for me Jul 26 22:42:00 per? Jul 26 22:42:02 10% for tithe Jul 26 22:42:12 sorry, what? Jul 26 22:42:17 And I need to pay for DC trip Jul 26 22:42:19 so you have just over $10 Jul 26 22:42:22 12 per month Jul 26 22:42:26 tithe? Jul 26 22:42:36 * twbbas wishes he got allowance as a kid Jul 26 22:42:41 a month! yeesh Jul 26 22:42:52 funkatron: ya, but not clear why that wouldnt just work on a TP, even non-UI rev 2. Jul 26 22:43:12 * rwatkins is tempted to pull off his Pre2 and repackage and see. Jul 26 22:43:19 rwatkins: yeah, not sure. OS thing? Jul 26 22:43:23 twbbas: +1 Jul 26 22:43:27 I have no idea. above my pay grade Jul 26 22:43:41 Mom yelled at me for developing Jul 26 22:43:42 webOSNewbie: How come you ended up here? In #webos I mean? Jul 26 22:44:03 >.< Jul 26 22:44:13 i feel like i just had an encounter with a darker past. Jul 26 22:44:21 Hehe. Jul 26 22:44:28 where the peasants are tithed and science is persecuted Jul 26 22:44:29 That was a cool exit. Jul 26 22:45:01 What did tithe mean? Jul 26 22:45:09 hey now, we love science here Jul 26 22:45:42 a tithe is a form of taxation in some countries, in the sane ones now voluntary, where you give a portion of your income to the church Jul 26 22:45:53 it's also a common practice among some north american christian cults Jul 26 22:46:18 so he's in a cult or just a good church kid Jul 26 22:46:31 Oh! Hey, that might even be a word borrowed from my native toungue. "tionde". Jul 26 22:46:39 looks like there is no service part for spotify. Jul 26 22:46:42 It means "every tenth". Jul 26 22:46:52 gokr: i am pretty sure they both derived from latin Jul 26 22:46:52 rwatkins: it was heresay anyway Jul 26 22:48:53 esser: You are probably correct. Jul 26 22:50:52 So annoying - I have a 4G dongle that gives me quite good speed - but no darn driver for Linux! Sigh. Jul 26 22:58:01 gokr: when faced with the problem of Office, Hardware drivers, and still wanting a proper Unix-like thing, I decided that the solution for my laptop was a mac. Jul 26 22:59:11 Yeah, I can sympathize with that - but I am too deep into Linux. And don't really like mac. Although I have a lot of respect for the products. Jul 26 22:59:31 ah, there is indeed a service part to spotify. Jul 26 23:13:36 you're in too depp! Jul 26 23:13:38 depp? Jul 26 23:20:27 whereeeeeeeeeeeee'z johnny? Jul 26 23:21:57 15:37 < webOSNewbie> Mom yelled at me for developing Jul 26 23:22:02 tell her you can't stop biology Jul 26 23:22:20 palm webkit, you suck. Jul 26 23:24:06 change padding left/right on object via applyStyle() - does container realize and reflow contained text? no, it just moves it over to the right. Jul 26 23:25:35 * haeffb_ was a beta tester for win3.1 Jul 26 23:26:10 started with win 2.x Jul 26 23:26:12 * dwc- has dos 3.2 and win 2.0 floppies around somewhere Jul 26 23:26:27 * rwatkins was a beta tester for java 0.9 .. at that time called "OAK". Jul 26 23:26:29 I think I destroyed all my floppies some time ago Jul 26 23:27:10 uh, make that 0.2, not 0.9 Jul 26 23:28:14 * rwatkins has nothing with which to read the floppies he has. Jul 26 23:29:37 I have no 8" drives sorry, only 5.25 Jul 26 23:29:41 http://blip.tv/jsconf/jsconf2011-tim-caswell-5373603 Jul 26 23:32:06 ok, this is MESSED UP! http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/811/screenshotxbk.png/ Jul 26 23:32:20 my laptop smells like hot plastic. Jul 26 23:32:28 uh oh Jul 26 23:32:49 eclipse and chrome are burning CPU cycles for no apparent reason Jul 26 23:33:22 chrome: probably flash 8D Jul 26 23:33:58 eclipse will do it by itself as well Jul 26 23:34:31 I love eclipse as an IDE, but hate it as a piece of software Jul 26 23:35:38 and it feels like going from ubuntu 10.10 to 11.04 made it worse Jul 26 23:35:41 haeffb: i like eclipse as a webos IDE. but do not use it for any other development, I use komodo edit 6 instead Jul 26 23:36:14 right now, both cores are running about 15% Jul 26 23:37:00 launch eclipse, both are at 80-90% Jul 26 23:37:19 damn that is nuts Jul 26 23:37:37 crap. Jul 26 23:37:43 it's the Javascript validator Jul 26 23:38:04 ruh roh Jul 26 23:38:04 close that and I'm back to 15% Jul 26 23:38:16 but that's the main reason I still use eclipse! Jul 26 23:38:28 sigh. Jul 26 23:38:32 i tried developing android with eclipse and the emulatore was hella slow, so no more android dev for me... Jul 26 23:39:10 so, watch more carefully for typos. Or burn my left leg. Jul 26 23:39:14 tough choices Jul 26 23:40:12 one of the main things that attracted me to webOS dev was the option to *not* use an IDE. I'm good with bash and a text editor. I'm just using geany; wouldn't want it any other way. Jul 26 23:41:12 haeffb: +1 re: Eclipse Jul 26 23:41:12 I just add too many typo bugs to go without the validator Jul 26 23:41:24 zylogz80: that also, you can use notepad if you wanted to... Jul 26 23:41:31 Coda is godlike Jul 26 23:41:43 the little guy sits on my left shoulder and says "Hey, add a semi-colon, please!" Jul 26 23:42:08 i am just used to webos dev with eclipse, would feel wierd using another IDE Jul 26 23:42:11 I could code on pencil and paper and hand it to my secretary if I wanted to... Jul 26 23:42:19 lol Jul 26 23:42:34 but eclipse is more efficient Jul 26 23:42:42 what validator do you use. is it a plugin? Jul 26 23:42:47 aptana Jul 26 23:43:07 eclipse SUUUUUUUUUCKS Jul 26 23:43:09 it includes validators for most of the file types Jul 26 23:43:15 imagine that in an operatic falsetto Jul 26 23:43:18 SUUUUUUCKS Jul 26 23:43:35 is it the aptana stuff that palm recommends or is it other aptana plugins? Jul 26 23:43:55 yeah, it wasn't funny until I imagined it in an operatic falsetto Jul 26 23:44:07 the stuff palm recommends. Jul 26 23:44:43 go to window/preferences/aptana/editors/Javascript/Validation Jul 26 23:45:14 haeffb: ok, opening eclipse now Jul 26 23:45:38 and for CSS and HTML as well Jul 26 23:45:54 but keep an eye on your CPU load Jul 26 23:46:47 also, go to window/show view/other and open the validator window Jul 26 23:46:56 haeffb: i only have 2 cores myself Jul 26 23:48:50 haeffb: not Javascript debug Jul 26 23:48:59 ? Jul 26 23:49:28 no, validation Jul 26 23:49:36 Jslint validation? Jul 26 23:51:43 I had been using Mozilla, but just switched to jslint Jul 26 23:51:48 it's pickier Jul 26 23:52:23 ok i have mozilla enabled, so maybe that kills memory? Jul 26 23:52:58 jslint seems to not be burning up my CPU Jul 26 23:53:11 but now I'm deleting a lot of extra commas Jul 26 23:55:25 damn. I have a LOT of trailing commas Jul 26 23:56:37 my cpu usage is very low, but only have 30% RAM available Jul 26 23:58:31 nope, there it went to 100% Jul 27 00:00:24 this is probably really easy but I've been trying for an hour now and haven't figured it out; how can I refer to a specific component by it's index. say you have a VirtualList called uiList, can you refer to one of it's item entries by index? I picture it as this.$.uiList[index] or this.$.uiList.comopents[index] or maybe even this.$.uiList.$[index]. but none of those worked Jul 27 00:01:59 zylogz80: no, the list is virtual. Jul 27 00:03:12 the dom elements only exist for the ones visible and a few rendered out of the scrollable area. Jul 27 00:04:59 hey Jul 27 00:07:30 rwatkins, hmmm... and enyo.VirtualList inherits from enyo.ScrolingList which also renders only a portion at a time.. so is there no way to do this then? to modify a list item other than to have an onclick and then use inSender? Jul 27 00:09:09 zylogz80: that the way to do it. or go back and modify the data your rendering the list from and call refresh(). Jul 27 00:10:24 if you want to change something about "item 3 in the list" you need to edit the data source, you cant just go looking for that item in the dom as it may not be there. Jul 27 00:11:03 I'm back Jul 27 00:11:10 and playing TrackMania Sunrise Jul 27 00:12:16 rwatkins, yeah - I was trying to avoid refreshing the list to update only 1 row but it seems there's no way to do that. I am basically trying to do this https://developer.palm.com/content/api/dev-guide/enyo/lists.html#modifying-list-rows but when I saw that example I though "aw c'mon, there's got to be a better way to do that." Jul 27 00:12:35 * haeffb wonders if a different version of eclipse would play more nicely Jul 27 00:13:16 zylogz80: it's actually not that bad, because as rwatkins says...it's only rendering a few of the items Jul 27 00:13:32 haeffb, true - I was just thinking that. Jul 27 00:14:15 thanks haeffb & rwatkins - much appreciated Jul 27 00:27:24 works :) Jul 27 00:46:58 how do you disable the auto case adjusting shit in enyo again? Jul 27 00:55:29 autoCapitalize: "sentence" Jul 27 00:55:29 Possible settings: "sentence", "title", "lowercase" (actual attribute is cap +) Jul 27 00:55:53 that only work on input widgets or all controls? Jul 27 00:56:07 that's from the input control... Jul 27 00:56:16 what other widgets are you interested in? Jul 27 00:56:53 well i have this custom code and it making all the text caps except for random letters that it go lowercase Jul 27 00:57:13 nice. random letters. Jul 27 00:58:51 there's probably some javascript you could apply to the text Jul 27 00:59:41 javascript is for chumps Jul 27 00:59:43 toUpperCase() or toLowerCase() Jul 27 00:59:56 chumps or chimps Jul 27 00:59:57 ? Jul 27 01:00:07 chumps! Jul 27 01:00:18 what's for chimps? Jul 27 01:00:24 bananas. Duh Jul 27 01:00:30 chimps gotta code, too! Jul 27 01:00:51 * haeffb needs to go on a diet Jul 27 01:01:07 weighed in at my highest weight EVER yesterday Jul 27 01:01:15 maybe bananas will help Jul 27 01:02:00 any TouchPad users here that wouldn't mind beta testing an app of mine? Wall Switch (a wallpaper switching app) Jul 27 01:05:04 <-- at gmail Jul 27 01:14:48 are there any events or functions that can be called in enyo that would enable the shift key on the virtual keyboard? Jul 27 01:22:15 PuffTheMagic: the docs would be your best bet Jul 27 01:22:16 appsotutely: id like to test it on my pre2 (it has enyo) Jul 27 01:23:20 Tibfib, dont even know where I would begin Jul 27 01:23:32 PuffTheMagic: the keyboard, or an input Jul 27 01:23:54 where are the keyboard docs, i've never seen that Jul 27 01:24:04 they're in the docs included with the sdk Jul 27 01:24:45 PatrickC, thanks, but it's still a mojo app. I'm just trying to confirm if there are any glitches with an actual TouchPad. It tests out fine in the emulator. Jul 27 01:25:31 need any mojo testers? Jul 27 01:26:12 PatrickC: that's what he's looking for Jul 27 01:26:20 I mean pre2* Jul 27 01:26:28 or pre at all Jul 27 01:26:38 anyone in Boston in here between ages 18 and 25? Jul 27 01:26:49 I've got a couple of testers on Pre, Pre2, and Veer already! Jul 27 01:27:21 ok Jul 27 01:27:27 lemme know if you need anymore Jul 27 01:27:50 will do, thanks for the offer Jul 27 01:28:09 np Jul 27 01:30:57 appsotutely: I meant that I'd be willing to test Jul 27 01:31:14 appsolutely, I would Jul 27 01:31:32 ok, thanks haeffb Jul 27 01:34:43 Adora: hey Jul 27 01:34:50 ruhroh Jul 27 01:35:32 * PatrickC will continually wait for email to come *tomorrow* Jul 27 01:35:34 as it should Jul 27 01:35:42 lol Jul 27 01:35:44 s/should/better/ Jul 27 01:35:55 tomorrow will be business day 15 Jul 27 01:36:24 halfhalo: crack the whip Jul 27 01:36:32 no? Jul 27 01:36:38 aww.. Jul 27 01:38:51 appsotutely: is Wall Switch 2.x compatible? Jul 27 01:39:36 PatrickC: yes, should work fine on 2.x and 3.x Jul 27 01:39:45 cool! price? Jul 27 01:40:40 not sure yet, probably 99c to start. Funny to see another similar app get released as I'm readying mine. Jul 27 01:41:48 loading seems a bit slow... Jul 27 01:42:08 how many photos do you have? Jul 27 01:42:36 on device...? a dozen? Jul 27 01:42:44 on facebook...? lots Jul 27 01:43:20 just "loading" screen Jul 27 01:43:28 hmmm, did it actually pick up all the facebook pics as well? Jul 27 01:43:41 dunno Jul 27 01:43:44 Or does it only show "Loading ..." Jul 27 01:43:53 "Loading... Jul 27 01:44:06 Did it pop up the permissions alert? Jul 27 01:44:11 yep Jul 27 01:44:36 what's the appid? Jul 27 01:44:52 Hrmmm ... if it didn't start up already it probably won't ... it's com.appsotutely.wallswitch Jul 27 01:45:10 can you close it and re-open it? Jul 27 01:45:54 error: Uncaught TypeError: Cannot read property '0' of undefined, app/models/srvc.js:148 Jul 27 01:46:13 ok, let me take a look Jul 27 01:47:16 * haeffb loves how easy preware makes it to install apps from email... Jul 27 01:47:34 amazing, right? Jul 27 01:48:07 rwhitby and friends should be proud Jul 27 01:49:24 yes Jul 27 01:49:30 <3 Preware ! Jul 27 01:49:56 even if it's "militant" Jul 27 01:50:38 militant Jul 27 01:50:40 ? Jul 27 01:51:17 http://lmgtfy.com/?q=militant Jul 27 01:51:29 thanks Tibfib Jul 27 01:51:43 haeffb: another version is on its way Jul 27 02:02:26 error: Uncaught TypeError: Cannot read property '0' of undefined, app/models/srvc.js:148 Jul 27 02:06:51 still stuck on loading? Jul 27 02:15:23 stuck Jul 27 02:17:08 have to say I'm befuddled by that behavior ... I just sent another version over. Jul 27 02:19:00 error: Uncaught TypeError: Cannot read property '0' of undefined, app/models/srvc.js:87 Jul 27 02:21:08 haeffb: STOP DOING IT WRONG Jul 27 02:21:44 oops Jul 27 02:22:16 ... at least it's a different line now ... Jul 27 02:23:00 I wonder if the indexer is returning the hits to the Facebook pics as well? Jul 27 02:26:50 erggggggggggg Jul 27 02:26:54 this always happens Jul 27 02:27:03 I spend a ton of time on a very small part Jul 27 02:29:12 kills you everytime Jul 27 02:29:40 * PatrickC is not gonna do anything to make his app work till the basic UI is totally done Jul 27 02:30:28 hmm. do I finish the mojo first, or enyo Jul 27 02:30:28 haeffb: that's it, it's the non-local photos. Now I have to do something about it ... Jul 27 02:30:29 ? Jul 27 02:34:50 what's closer to being done, enyo or mojo? Jul 27 02:35:37 enyo Jul 27 02:35:57 appsotutely: you could be in my beta.. Jul 27 02:37:29 PatrickC: I suppose I could, but you might want to wait for me to get at least a loaner device ... Jul 27 02:37:48 Is this your first official app? Jul 27 02:38:00 nope Jul 27 02:38:03 i've had 6 before it Jul 27 02:38:17 none of any worthiness (except possibly one) Jul 27 02:38:18 working towards the black belt then ... Jul 27 02:38:22 yep Jul 27 02:38:47 my 6 prior were all Ares made apps Jul 27 02:39:10 this is my second SDK app (first one is still unreleased.. finished but unreleased Jul 27 02:39:12 ) Jul 27 02:39:40 @YourRadio_webOS on twitter Jul 27 02:41:04 oh, appsotutely: once I get my server back up Jul 27 02:41:20 I can show you how to install enyo on your pre(anything) Jul 27 02:45:48 haeffb: thanks for the testing on the TP! I probably wouldn't have realized that even if I had my own loaner at the moment. Jul 27 02:46:05 PatrickC: enyo is a javascript library. It doesn't get installed Jul 27 02:47:21 Tibfib: "running" Jul 27 02:47:32 there you go Jul 27 02:49:00 I'll be more interested in enyo on a phone when I'm allowed to package it up into a truly cross platform app ... Jul 27 02:50:13 "running" against an unsupported version of webkit. no thankyou. Jul 27 02:50:32 works fine for me Jul 27 02:50:40 famous last words Jul 27 02:51:02 i've used it to make my app for the last month Jul 27 02:51:03 right up there with "just one little change, cant break anything" Jul 27 02:51:08 there really is NO reason to test enyo apps on the phones Jul 27 02:51:23 Tibfib: there is when you don't have a touchpad Jul 27 02:51:30 and the emu won't run for you Jul 27 02:51:31 no. you are hurting development by doing so Jul 27 02:51:38 you need to fix the emulator Jul 27 02:51:42 and/or use chrome Jul 27 02:51:53 Tibfib: laptop won't run the emu Jul 27 02:51:58 and I do use Chromeium Jul 27 02:52:02 Chromium* Jul 27 02:52:19 "you need to fix the emulator" Jul 27 02:52:46 laptop is incapable to run it.. I need to get a new laptop Jul 27 02:52:50 which I'm doing soon Jul 27 02:57:14 I love being so close to done that I can start removing debug statements and cleaning up the code. so close... should be able to submit to hp very soon. Jul 27 02:57:50 of course I saved the feature from hell for last... but... such is life. Jul 27 02:58:16 wow, so I hope there's a bit more control with regards to turning on outside photo sources. It looks like it's trying to download them all. Jul 27 02:58:52 I wonder if this is one of the sources of "slowness" on a TP ... **** ENDING LOGGING AT Wed Jul 27 02:59:57 2011