**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Sat Aug 20 02:59:56 2011 Aug 20 03:00:28 Must. Buy. Touchpads Aug 20 03:00:29 Fun idea: I get plasma-active working on the touchpad and get Enyo running on active; you can run all the enyo applications as Plasma Applets inside of the shell Aug 20 03:01:10 I mean, we already support js applets, and webview applets Aug 20 03:01:34 everyone must buy Aug 20 03:01:37 BUY BUY BUY Aug 20 03:02:52 lol Aug 20 03:03:03 Still showing $379 for me :( Aug 20 03:03:26 woot will have them too Aug 20 03:03:31 http://deals.woot.com/deals/details/9a3e7678-7eb1-4b7f-88ea-73f2acd4d0a6/hp-touchpad-16gb-99-and-32gb-149-selloff-starts-8-20 Aug 20 03:03:59 Jeesus, that's fucking insane. Aug 20 03:04:23 Price on Amazon went up $1.18 for the 32GB for me. Aug 20 03:04:27 I wonder how desperate they are, since manufacturing costs on those are north of $300 Aug 20 03:04:45 ok sorry I was gone Aug 20 03:05:03 I just helped my dad by 10 touchpads O.o Aug 20 03:05:30 Apparently HN AU won't sell them at any price. Aug 20 03:05:30 then my brother in law 2 Aug 20 03:05:33 where? Aug 20 03:05:38 Online. Aug 20 03:05:44 Has been suggested to contact HP AU directly. Aug 20 03:05:47 Damn Aug 20 03:05:54 Target had them Aug 20 03:06:05 for $99 today Aug 20 03:06:20 Sold out already Aug 20 03:07:20 So they're disappearing fast. Aug 20 03:07:42 Yep Aug 20 03:07:42 Should have bought ten like you guys :x Aug 20 03:07:56 Why? Aug 20 03:08:03 all you need to do is tell the person on the phone the email address associated with your dev access and you can get the 50% off Aug 20 03:08:17 wha wha what? Aug 20 03:08:19 so Aug 20 03:08:22 $50 for a touchpad? Aug 20 03:08:22 So you can get one for... Aug 20 03:08:23 $0? Aug 20 03:08:25 er Aug 20 03:08:27 $50 Aug 20 03:08:38 I bought 4 and it cost me approx 200 Aug 20 03:08:42 Hendikins: Call HP, they will cut you a deal Aug 20 03:08:50 LarrySteeze: I should have done that, damn, I forgot Aug 20 03:09:08 Larry, I love you. No homo Aug 20 03:09:15 LOL Aug 20 03:09:21 rrix: HP AU sales are only open on weekdays. Aug 20 03:09:23 My father, on the other hand, bought 10 and tried to get a dev discount but they would not give it to him Aug 20 03:09:33 Hendikins: :( Aug 20 03:09:37 (my father isn't a dev or part of the dev access program) Aug 20 03:09:57 rrix: And HP didn't sell them directly in AU - they sold them exclusively through one retailer who refuses to sell them now at any price. Aug 20 03:10:23 Right Aug 20 03:10:38 well, got my HP email saying i learned webos for no reason Aug 20 03:10:53 lol Aug 20 03:10:59 LarrySteeze: So I just call HP and they know about the developer deal? Aug 20 03:11:03 Any specific phone # to call? Aug 20 03:11:07 HP TouchPad Wi-Fi 16GB Aug 20 03:11:07 This product is covered by the HP webOS Limited Warranty Aug 20 03:11:07 Visit HP webOS Support for 90-day toll-free set-up assistance, support, and troubleshooting for your HP webOS device Aug 20 03:11:07 The HP Home & Home Office Store will accept returns or exchanges for this product up to 21 days after delivery Aug 20 03:11:07 FB355UA#ABA 4 $99.99 $184.98 Aug 20 03:11:21 also got retweet that says microsoft is giving abandoned hp dev's free wp7 tools and phones! Aug 20 03:11:28 LarrySteeze, URL pl Aug 20 03:11:30 plz Aug 20 03:11:52 techrush: phone Aug 20 03:12:03 ic Aug 20 03:12:16 ok looks like the 99 dollar tab is out of stock Aug 20 03:12:18 ATTN DEV'S: Microsoft will give you free crap to come be a WP7 Dev! I just got a free account to AppHub! Aug 20 03:12:33 LULZ NO THANKS Aug 20 03:12:36 yeah, that was an interesting tweet too Aug 20 03:12:37 however I am upset about my hp apps :( Aug 20 03:12:37 omg seriously flyman ? Aug 20 03:12:41 CTLAdvance: that could be my fault...oops Aug 20 03:12:46 edude03: He is serious Aug 20 03:12:51 edude03: Yup! Aug 20 03:13:30 edude03: http://nm.vc/68 that's the guy in charge Aug 20 03:13:40 K, I'm going for that Aug 20 03:13:47 i did too Aug 20 03:13:48 Not that I care about free stuff but I want to be a dev Aug 20 03:13:58 LarrySteeze: So do I have to call a special number to get the 50% off? Aug 20 03:14:02 edude03: tons of free dev crap and free dev tools Aug 20 03:14:09 And do I have to have any applications published? I only have an account Aug 20 03:14:12 so does this mean no NetFlix app?! Aug 20 03:14:14 you have to be a published webOS dev Aug 20 03:14:26 IGNTNUNLMTD: is correct Aug 20 03:14:39 no app catalog app, no WP7 perks Aug 20 03:14:48 IGNTNUNLMTD: I'm not talking about WP7 perks Aug 20 03:15:00 I already have a WP7 Dev phone… I'm talking about 50% off Touchpad Aug 20 03:15:03 that LarrySteeze was talking about Aug 20 03:15:15 ah, the IDK Aug 20 03:15:19 then* Aug 20 03:15:20 16GB OUT OF STOCK on hp.com Aug 20 03:15:23 Fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu! Aug 20 03:15:35 * rrix tries to get #webosheadlines Aug 20 03:15:40 * rrix tries to get #webosheadlines to be used on twitter Aug 20 03:15:55 https://twitter.com/rrrrrrrix/status/104752650905595904 https://twitter.com/rrrrrrrix/status/104752375625023488 have some fun for once guys Aug 20 03:15:56 trsohmers: to be clear, I originally put my order through HPA. I then called the normal CS number to cancel my order. Instead of canceling my order, he asked if I'm a dev, I said yes, and he offered me a 50% discount. I then doubled the number of tablets I was ordering. Aug 20 03:17:02 i also had to provide him with the email address I have registered for dev Aug 20 03:17:10 OK cool Aug 20 03:17:38 So, I don't know if the discount is a "public" discount or one that was used to save the order Aug 20 03:17:45 Holy crap.. just checked my developer email and it is my old Yahoo account Aug 20 03:18:24 hahah Aug 20 03:18:43 I feel so embarrassed that I even had a Yahoo account... Aug 20 03:18:44 lol Aug 20 03:19:09 I'M embarassed you had a yahoo account Aug 20 03:19:21 +1 Aug 20 03:19:22 http://blog.palm.com/palm/2011/08/hp-webos-the-next-generation.html Aug 20 03:19:29 in fact, I'm surprised you were accepted into the program with a yahoo account Aug 20 03:19:31 lawl Aug 20 03:19:40 Who had a yahoo account? Aug 20 03:19:41 Do tell Aug 20 03:19:51 I'm intrigued. Aug 20 03:19:58 lawl Aug 20 03:20:06 trsohmers Aug 20 03:20:10 yea? Aug 20 03:20:14 Sorry Aug 20 03:20:14 oy Aug 20 03:20:25 I'm changing the email on it to my MIT account Aug 20 03:20:25 lol Aug 20 03:20:33 palm blog just made a post Aug 20 03:20:36 akanster got it Aug 20 03:20:39 So embarrassed Aug 20 03:20:40 dang nabbit...why did I even mention my discount...here I was trying to help people and I have more pms than a girl constantly on her period Aug 20 03:20:50 * rrix snorts Aug 20 03:20:57 LarrySteeze: They sell things to fix that Aug 20 03:21:08 sorry...I like puns. I'm a punny guy Aug 20 03:21:35 though that pun was perhaps a bit inappropriate Aug 20 03:21:55 Who has a discount? Aug 20 03:21:58 :O Aug 20 03:22:27 -_- Aug 20 03:22:50 Goddamnit, people! Aug 20 03:22:54 LarrySteeze: If she's constantly on her period, she wouldn't *P*MS, wouldn't she? Aug 20 03:23:07 -_- Aug 20 03:23:09 AWWW SNAP Aug 20 03:23:10 so these $99/$149 touchpad's available anywhere? Aug 20 03:23:15 HOLY CRAP Aug 20 03:23:16 http://www.shopping.hp.com/webapp/shopping/store_access.do?product_code=FB355UA%23ABA&template_type=product_detail&aoid=35252&jumpid=ex_r11614_us/en/HHO_r329/Affiliate/FY11/TouchPad Aug 20 03:23:20 16GB TOUCHPAD SOLD OUT Aug 20 03:23:23 I got my TouchPad for free :) Aug 20 03:23:39 it surprises you trsohmers? Aug 20 03:23:46 why do you think my dad bought 10? Aug 20 03:23:53 I'm just wondering how many they had Aug 20 03:24:00 should offer accessories for cheap too :( Aug 20 03:24:00 They have 10 Aug 20 03:24:07 I want the touchstone Aug 20 03:24:21 just don't know if I can justify paying 50 for the touchpad and 75 for the touchstone Aug 20 03:24:21 I'd buy the Touchstone for $10 Aug 20 03:24:22 :P Aug 20 03:24:35 LarrySteeze: You have a 50% discount? Aug 20 03:24:48 * LarrySteeze sighs * Aug 20 03:24:58 someone else explain it this time? Aug 20 03:25:08 woah, wtf. my 16GB TP was in my cart at $379, and i go click on my cart and it's gone - out of stock. sux. Aug 20 03:25:17 or wait, I can copy from earlier Aug 20 03:25:17 what no way the touchstone works on the touchpad Aug 20 03:25:28 the other touchstone edude Aug 20 03:25:32 the big touchstone. not the puck. Aug 20 03:25:35 there's one specifically for the touchpad Aug 20 03:25:43 sux, sux, sux. Aug 20 03:25:46 I'm pretty regularly refreshing my Amazon cart. Aug 20 03:25:49 Oh Makes more sense Aug 20 03:25:53 bartholemew: call customer service Aug 20 03:26:00 I was just about to try my pre's touchstone Aug 20 03:26:15 whoever was asking me about the discount...this is from earlier: trsohmers: to be clear, I originally put my order through HPA. I then called the normal CS number to cancel my order. Instead of canceling my order, he asked if I'm a dev, I said yes, and he offered me a 50% discount. I then doubled the number of tablets I was ordering. Aug 20 03:26:30 what's the CS number Aug 20 03:26:32 Oh Aug 20 03:26:35 Gotchya Aug 20 03:26:48 For $50 I'd get a touchpad Aug 20 03:27:22 OK, I'm going to line up at Best Buy Aug 20 03:27:27 hmm Aug 20 03:27:31 is this true Aug 20 03:27:31 hmm Aug 20 03:27:36 LarrySteeze: May I ask why you ordered two of them, then canceled your order? Aug 20 03:27:38 this is true Aug 20 03:27:40 99 bucks for touchpad? Aug 20 03:27:43 linuxuz3r__: yes Aug 20 03:27:45 well, was going to cancel your order? Aug 20 03:27:50 klausa: I selected the wrong school. Aug 20 03:27:51 So is there preware ready to go for the palm Aug 20 03:27:53 *TP Aug 20 03:28:06 I didn't want to get slammed with a higher price because of it...I've had it happen in the past Aug 20 03:28:10 edude03: It has been Aug 20 03:28:10 edude03: Yes Aug 20 03:28:30 rrix where can i get 99 bucks touchpad Aug 20 03:28:39 linuxuz3r__: call customer service Aug 20 03:28:45 look nearly anywhere online Aug 20 03:28:45 hp? Aug 20 03:28:52 go to any touchpad seller tomorrow morning Aug 20 03:28:54 linuxuz3r__: hp is sold out Aug 20 03:29:00 Uhg, I would call customer service but I don't have a credit card Aug 20 03:29:12 who has a link to the WM7 dude? Aug 20 03:29:23 twitter.com/brandonwatson Aug 20 03:29:30 Hehe Aug 20 03:29:34 I've known him for like 3 months… really nice guy Aug 20 03:29:50 You can call him up, just google him and his phone number is publicly available Aug 20 03:29:51 * kesne got a touchpad for free Aug 20 03:29:53 be jelly Aug 20 03:30:02 kesne: How so? Aug 20 03:30:10 Richard Kerris Aug 20 03:30:22 there's free wp7 stuff too? Aug 20 03:30:50 I was thinking about adding wp7 to our dev platforms Aug 20 03:30:59 yea Aug 20 03:31:05 go talk to Brandon Watson Aug 20 03:31:09 call him or email him Aug 20 03:31:21 anyone have experience with it? is it worth it? Aug 20 03:31:25 dude where can i get 99 touch pad Aug 20 03:31:31 ok called HP CS number three times now, hit 2, 2, 2, got some shiny happy acoustic guitar music instead of the porno sax, "please stay on the line while your call is being connected" ... then .... call dropped, dial tone. three times in a row. Aug 20 03:31:34 fxspec06: ping Aug 20 03:31:34 i cant find 99 touchpad Aug 20 03:31:39 trsohmers: I talked to him, asked him for one, and he sent me one the next day, with next day shipping Aug 20 03:31:57 Talked to whom? Brandon or Richard Kerris? Aug 20 03:32:16 trsohmers: Kerris Aug 20 03:32:23 Wow Aug 20 03:32:23 trsohmers: He's a great guy Aug 20 03:33:49 barth - they wouldnt sell anything to me pver the phone Aug 20 03:33:54 I just did it online Aug 20 03:34:03 CTLAdvance: you found a $99 tp online? Aug 20 03:34:06 CTLAdvance! Aug 20 03:34:13 ordered another 32gb and touchpad case for 168 Aug 20 03:34:19 yeah i didn't have an online account but they set me up with one over the phone and put a 16GB TP in my cart Aug 20 03:34:20 gonna call and ask about the dev discount now Aug 20 03:34:25 KASNE Aug 20 03:34:27 but when clicked on my cart it was gone. Aug 20 03:34:27 KESNE Aug 20 03:34:32 nope Aug 20 03:34:37 I miss you CTLAdvance Aug 20 03:34:37 99 has been sold out everywhere Aug 20 03:34:50 lol Aug 20 03:34:53 bartholemew: Blame CTLAdvance, he stole it out of your cart. Aug 20 03:35:05 i got the 32 not 16 Aug 20 03:35:16 I needed to hedge my bet about this loaner device Aug 20 03:35:22 incase they still want 300 Aug 20 03:35:28 CTLAdvance: Send it back Aug 20 03:35:29 otherwise I wouldnt have done it Aug 20 03:35:29 Now Aug 20 03:35:32 Yep Aug 20 03:35:33 gonna Aug 20 03:36:00 https://twitter.com/rahulsood/status/104752488292421632 Aug 20 03:36:08 can i develop webos app on windows? Aug 20 03:36:11 I LOVE THAT GUY Aug 20 03:36:12 <{DV8}> Is there anywhere to get a WebOS 3 emulator? Aug 20 03:36:14 or do i download webos? Aug 20 03:36:14 meh. no linux version of the WM7 tools... Aug 20 03:36:48 >>> #winning >>> HP made their move - they won't go back on it. They think they're amputating an arm, but they are removing both legs and a pair of balls. Aug 20 03:36:50 Rahul Aug 20 03:37:12 meh? where? Aug 20 03:37:24 dont hog it Aug 20 03:37:31 lol rahul. tell us how you really feel. :D Aug 20 03:37:32 i really wanna develop Aug 20 03:37:38 linuxuz3r__: you can develop webos apps on Windows. Or Mac. Or Linux. Aug 20 03:37:42 but no 99 touchpad for me Aug 20 03:37:45 {DV8}: developer.palm.com Aug 20 03:37:49 something tells me this was a mistake Aug 20 03:37:59 I feel webOS is gonna die off once these are sold out Aug 20 03:38:01 CTLAdvance: YOU WERE A MISTAKE Aug 20 03:38:12 kesne: YOUR MOM!!! Aug 20 03:38:18 like lets unload it and kill our synergy servers Aug 20 03:38:18 i wanna develop Aug 20 03:38:22 or account servers Aug 20 03:38:23 :) Aug 20 03:38:26 please 99 touch pad anyone? Aug 20 03:38:31 CTLAdvance: even if it does, which I don't really feel like it will...it would still make a cheap browser Aug 20 03:38:35 haeffb: Oh yeah? Well you're mom! Yeah, incorrect grammar and all! Aug 20 03:38:37 you can develop in any text editor really Aug 20 03:38:40 how do i sudo in webos? Aug 20 03:39:00 You don't need to, you default to root Aug 20 03:39:01 linuxuz3r__: you're root when you gety our shell Aug 20 03:39:18 ohz really Aug 20 03:39:22 yep Aug 20 03:39:24 there is no rooting webos Aug 20 03:39:27 its already open Aug 20 03:39:36 <{DV8}> Thanks bpadalino Aug 20 03:39:37 applications get a chroot jail Aug 20 03:39:46 homebrew apps don't ;) Aug 20 03:39:52 they're pardoned :) Aug 20 03:40:51 how does the student discount work when buying a touchpad? Aug 20 03:41:09 $99 to join WM7 ? Aug 20 03:41:10 if only my iphone can play flash Aug 20 03:41:46 I super user dood your mom last night Aug 20 03:41:56 So, if they waive the $99 and give me a phone to test on, I'll *think* about developing for WM7... Aug 20 03:42:16 hey, navit is reallllly glitchy Aug 20 03:42:23 any fixes for that? Aug 20 03:42:35 like, how do I scroll around the map? Aug 20 03:42:38 cya guys Aug 20 03:42:39 whoohoo got a 32GB Aug 20 03:43:22 hmm Aug 20 03:43:42 this channel is really lagging out my KVIRC Aug 20 03:43:42 are touchpads cheap now? Aug 20 03:43:45 interesting Aug 20 03:43:53 http://deals.woot.com/deals/details/9a3e7678-7eb1-4b7f-88ea-73f2acd4d0a6/hp-touchpad-16gb-99-and-32gb-149-selloff-starts-8-20 Aug 20 03:44:45 the selloff can't start 8/20 if they're already sold out now lol Aug 20 03:44:51 oy vey Aug 20 03:44:52 yea Aug 20 03:45:06 holy shit Aug 20 03:45:15 where can I get one for that? Aug 20 03:45:21 I love webos Aug 20 03:45:23 hard Aug 20 03:45:29 siestacat: have you not heard the news? Aug 20 03:45:34 alright...I'm out. Have a good night everyone Aug 20 03:45:41 Touchpads are going to be $99 for 16gb and $150 for 32gb tomorrow Aug 20 03:45:54 and today for students/employees/spedcial people Aug 20 03:46:01 and I hope more than just myself and bartholomew are able to get the 50% discount bringing the 16gb price to $50 :D Aug 20 03:46:03 trsohmers : duh, ive heard, didn't think prices would be that low Aug 20 03:46:23 %50 discount? Aug 20 03:46:24 LarrySteeze, is that education discount? Aug 20 03:46:31 no, developer discount Aug 20 03:46:36 aha Aug 20 03:46:41 how does one qualify? Aug 20 03:46:51 since i'm technically a developer, just not for webos (yet) ;) Aug 20 03:46:52 call up Aug 20 03:46:54 I am working on the discount Aug 20 03:47:00 I don't think it has anything to do with it, but I don't think blackbelt status hurts Aug 20 03:47:00 I would hate to have to cancel my order Aug 20 03:47:23 <{DV8}> wonder if stores are going to update their stocks of the TouchPad from inventory at warehouses or if that's it Aug 20 03:47:27 i don't even have a device in my cart on the site anymore unfortunately Aug 20 03:47:29 black belt monday through friday, tripple plad sat and sunday Aug 20 03:47:34 1 888 9994747 cc orders only no 16 on hand just 32 atm Aug 20 03:47:44 lol... not sur ethere's going to be any discounted touchpads tomorrow for the normal people Aug 20 03:47:49 Bajan, who is that? Aug 20 03:48:00 at $50 i'll buy 3 Aug 20 03:48:03 where can I buy a cheap touchypad? Aug 20 03:48:06 yuck. XML Aug 20 03:48:08 hp.com Aug 20 03:48:14 I'm buying 2 32gb at $75 Aug 20 03:48:16 ctladvance: be prepared....if you get a CS rep that doesn't care, they'll just cancel your order no questions asked Aug 20 03:48:16 ah, i'm hold with hp currently :P Aug 20 03:48:19 Cheap Palm accesories if you have Amazon Prime - http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_ss_c_2_10?url=search-alias%3Dmobile&field-keywords=touchstone Aug 20 03:48:23 I just placed an order for a 32 gb Aug 20 03:48:34 I was cancelling with the intention to reorder...didn't even know I would be offered a discount Aug 20 03:48:36 Bajan, aha, that' shte number i called :D Aug 20 03:48:43 trsohmers : 75? Aug 20 03:48:48 If I can get the 50% off Aug 20 03:48:49 I'm on my pixi atm Aug 20 03:48:53 i was planning to buy 2 32s and 2 16s Aug 20 03:48:59 but if there's no more 16s... Aug 20 03:49:03 if they give me the discounts I will up the order to 2 devices Aug 20 03:49:15 but thats only iff Aug 20 03:49:19 anyway Aug 20 03:49:20 I have to run Aug 20 03:49:21 $49 Pre 2's tomorrow supposedly Aug 20 03:49:22 I wont have a need for more than that Aug 20 03:49:28 not sure about veer Aug 20 03:49:29 hope to see you guys later... Aug 20 03:49:30 $49 pre 2's have sold out Aug 20 03:49:40 thx Aug 20 03:49:45 did you try veer Aug 20 03:49:47 Later LarrySteeze Aug 20 03:49:58 pre2's sold out Aug 20 03:50:01 thx for discount info LarrySteeze Aug 20 03:50:23 anyone : please tell me where I an order a 16gb Aug 20 03:50:29 and if it's worth it Aug 20 03:50:59 now I need touchpad touchstones Aug 20 03:51:06 but not at $80 Aug 20 03:51:09 (Bajan) 1 888 9994747 Aug 20 03:51:14 and a bluetooth keyboard Aug 20 03:51:14 no Aug 20 03:51:36 where can I get one for $99? Aug 20 03:51:58 please link Aug 20 03:52:05 I am reasonably poor Aug 20 03:52:10 so this is great Aug 20 03:52:12 :) Aug 20 03:52:44 siestacat: I think you have to dial that phone number Aug 20 03:53:02 haeffb : rofl? Aug 20 03:53:18 this whole night Aug 20 03:53:19 has been Aug 20 03:53:23 insane Aug 20 03:53:32 they are sold out Aug 20 03:53:33 guys Aug 20 03:53:41 found some for $99 Aug 20 03:53:43 who is? Aug 20 03:53:44 32gb is what you should be looking for now Aug 20 03:53:45 friends of mine alone bought 20 total Aug 20 03:53:51 WHO DAMMIT Aug 20 03:53:56 I want one. Aug 20 03:54:15 what peripherals does touch pad have? Aug 20 03:54:31 http://www.shopping.hp.com/accessories-store/touchpad?jumpid=in_R329_prodexp/hhoslp/ipg/lateralnav_touchpad_accessories Aug 20 03:54:49 who is selling the frigging touchpad for $99? Aug 20 03:55:06 HP is if YOU CALL THE PHONE NUMBER Aug 20 03:55:07 wanna buy mine for $150? Aug 20 03:55:10 i got 10 Aug 20 03:55:17 10 is a lot of tp's Aug 20 03:55:20 and sit on hold for an hour Aug 20 03:55:26 * umccullough has been on hold for > 30 mins Aug 20 03:55:32 linuxuz3r__: What touchpad? lol Aug 20 03:55:37 hp is selling them? Aug 20 03:55:40 really? Aug 20 03:55:41 or just wait 'till tomorrow and see if there are any left Aug 20 03:55:46 over phone? Aug 20 03:55:52 32 and 16gb version Aug 20 03:55:57 sweet Aug 20 03:55:58 they're out of 16s Aug 20 03:56:02 is it worth it? Aug 20 03:56:04 32s left only Aug 20 03:56:14 and how about other retailers? Aug 20 03:56:23 ok im gonna go for a buy it now on ebay Aug 20 03:56:23 ok. what'd i miss. Aug 20 03:56:28 so no takers? Aug 20 03:56:32 linuxuz3r__: What? Aug 20 03:56:35 whatcha sellin Aug 20 03:56:50 A 32gb or 16gb for $150? Aug 20 03:56:59 200 for 32gb Aug 20 03:57:10 heh Aug 20 03:57:14 I'll take my chances at Best Buy and Staples Aug 20 03:57:19 if i get through, i'm buying 4 32gb models ;) Aug 20 03:57:26 SOOO glad I returned my 32gb touchpad today Aug 20 03:57:39 wow its c++ Aug 20 03:57:41 nice Aug 20 03:57:49 someone moderate this chan Aug 20 03:57:58 and its got flash Aug 20 03:58:20 guys Aug 20 03:58:23 anyone Aug 20 03:58:36 siestacat: http://www.webosroundup.com/2011/08/and-the-fire-sale-has-begun/ Aug 20 03:58:36 will stores have stock tomorrow? Aug 20 03:58:49 stores will have whatever they have Aug 20 03:58:52 nope cause i bought it Aug 20 03:59:11 and then comes convincing my parents I need another device... Aug 20 03:59:27 tips? Aug 20 03:59:33 lie Aug 20 03:59:36 :P Aug 20 03:59:38 do your homework Aug 20 03:59:45 already done Aug 20 03:59:54 bump your grades up Aug 20 03:59:56 did it when the thing came out Aug 20 03:59:56 lol Aug 20 04:00:04 my grades top already Aug 20 04:00:17 40 on 40 point scale Aug 20 04:00:17 well you are not accelerated so sorry Aug 20 04:00:31 rofl Aug 20 04:00:59 http://www.reddit.com/r/IAmA/comments/jo2oz/iama_hp_web_os_employee_amaa/ Aug 20 04:01:07 a 40 point scale? Aug 20 04:01:08 what Aug 20 04:01:14 yeah Aug 20 04:01:16 it's gay Aug 20 04:01:18 tell your parents you can sell it for twice the price Aug 20 04:01:26 I know that Aug 20 04:01:31 I want one for me Aug 20 04:01:40 :D Aug 20 04:01:42 buy two ;) Aug 20 04:01:46 yeh Aug 20 04:01:53 siestacat, dont you have allowance? Aug 20 04:01:54 but I habe 1500 to my name Aug 20 04:02:06 i'm planning to buy 4... Aug 20 04:02:08 linux : parents can't afford that Aug 20 04:02:21 I have a job Aug 20 04:02:21 * phil_bw wanders by Aug 20 04:02:32 slow season, not working much Aug 20 04:02:55 1 miiiiinute Aug 20 04:03:01 hmm Aug 20 04:03:12 maybe you should try to save first Aug 20 04:03:29 I have a mutual fund Aug 20 04:03:36 with a 10% div Aug 20 04:03:49 and about 2000 in another one at 6% Aug 20 04:04:02 so I actually have 5000+ Aug 20 04:04:08 1+1=0 Aug 20 04:04:11 lol Aug 20 04:04:13 so 100 shant hurt much. Aug 20 04:04:14 llo Aug 20 04:04:27 no you dint Aug 20 04:04:38 ? Aug 20 04:04:50 alright, last thing Aug 20 04:05:09 how the hell do I make it through the night without freaaaaking out Aug 20 04:05:34 damn excited Aug 20 04:05:47 why you got some kinda shrink or sumthin Aug 20 04:05:58 Trying to load Woot... Aug 20 04:06:15 Will Best Buy price match tomorrow? Aug 20 04:06:30 a good question to ask a bb manager tomorrow Aug 20 04:06:35 best buy will be sold out in the morning Aug 20 04:06:43 i bet there's already a line Aug 20 04:07:07 how about in rural maine? Aug 20 04:07:10 oh well ill play with redhat Aug 20 04:07:13 lol Aug 20 04:07:16 i dunno - i doubt it .. Aug 20 04:07:24 good Aug 20 04:07:25 just kidding i dont have an touchpad Aug 20 04:07:27 I want one Aug 20 04:07:34 ... Aug 20 04:07:36 enyo! Aug 20 04:07:36 i just want one for 99 bucks Aug 20 04:07:43 i stopped by a popular best buy on my way home tonight, there was only one other person looking at the touchpads Aug 20 04:07:45 I can use enyo! Aug 20 04:07:48 so... maybe it won't be a big deal Aug 20 04:07:58 you know what? Aug 20 04:08:01 whats enyo Aug 20 04:08:06 no you dint Aug 20 04:08:11 other than you hoarders, it won't be a big deal Aug 20 04:08:15 i doubt cheap discontinued hardware is really going to get the masses to come out Aug 20 04:08:17 :) Aug 20 04:08:43 the question is: how many "average folk" know about it Aug 20 04:08:46 frigshit this woke me up Aug 20 04:09:11 everytime someone installs android on a touchpad god kills a kitten. Aug 20 04:09:23 So this firesale may be brilliant: lots of sales, increased market for dev's apps Aug 20 04:09:56 all of a sudden HP announces they're not cancelling the touchpads, profit! Aug 20 04:10:09 well...except for the lost revenue Aug 20 04:10:10 Profit from app sales?? Aug 20 04:10:12 hehe Aug 20 04:10:13 lol Aug 20 04:10:27 so... Aug 20 04:10:32 bpadalino: You underestimate the power of "cheap" Aug 20 04:10:35 should I buy one? Aug 20 04:10:42 I have a pixi+ Aug 20 04:10:44 publicity stunt, ftw! Aug 20 04:10:46 and a desktop Aug 20 04:10:50 Considering they are ~$300 to produce, I'm kind of skeptical about that 'profit'. Aug 20 04:11:08 klausa, yeah Aug 20 04:11:12 was kidding ;) Aug 20 04:11:14 Shadyman: pixi's were $40 off contract .. and they didn't sell out very quickly Aug 20 04:11:15 Is WebOS itself going to get discontinued, or will it continue getting developed? Aug 20 04:11:30 bhrams, my understanding is they don't know what they're planning to do with it yet Aug 20 04:11:35 http://www.reddit.com/r/IAmA/comments/jo2oz/iama_hp_web_os_employee_amaa/c2dp6dl Aug 20 04:11:52 umccullough, thanks Aug 20 04:12:02 I bought pixi at $40 Aug 20 04:12:09 about a month ago Aug 20 04:12:11 love it Aug 20 04:12:37 bhrams: the message to developers said they plan to continue supporting webOS Aug 20 04:12:51 neat Aug 20 04:13:07 wasn't planning on getting a tablet, but it might be worth grabbing one :P Aug 20 04:13:38 need to see more details on these "plans" ... Aug 20 04:14:09 nokia had "plans" to sell 150M more symbian phones after they osborned their OS Aug 20 04:14:35 not clear how many consumers had "plans" to make nokia's "plans" work out ... :D Aug 20 04:14:45 I can run android on touchpad? Aug 20 04:15:20 android is... uh... pretty crappy siestacat Aug 20 04:15:35 pakl : just thinking apps Aug 20 04:15:37 pakl: Take that back Aug 20 04:15:46 android is ok Aug 20 04:15:50 my current main phone is an Evo Aug 20 04:15:55 pakl : I need netflix 2 make this work Aug 20 04:16:00 Android FTW, and I am going to be trying to run Android on the Touchphone Aug 20 04:16:12 pakl, why do you say android is crappy Aug 20 04:16:12 Touchphone == Pre3? Aug 20 04:16:36 who is going to bestbuy in the morning? Aug 20 04:17:01 i might Aug 20 04:17:04 me Aug 20 04:17:07 if i can't get any tonight Aug 20 04:17:21 there are 3 best buys within 50 miles Aug 20 04:17:27 I will for when they open. they will disappear fast i think Aug 20 04:18:03 linuxuz3r__: lots of reasons. For one, the back button is a mess of inconsistency Aug 20 04:18:17 Can Ubuntu be put on the touchpad? :P Aug 20 04:18:31 yes, in a chroot Aug 20 04:18:49 fun Aug 20 04:19:01 what are practical uses? Aug 20 04:19:04 more information on that anywhere? Aug 20 04:19:08 need to sell this 2 parents Aug 20 04:19:10 run chromium? eclipse? Aug 20 04:19:13 openoffice? Aug 20 04:19:19 apache2 Aug 20 04:19:20 ;) Aug 20 04:19:34 do whatever you want with ubuntu - practical use is anything nerdy Aug 20 04:19:46 I mean overall Aug 20 04:19:52 not just ubuntu Aug 20 04:20:01 something parents would find worthy Aug 20 04:20:11 it's a luxury item and a plaything Aug 20 04:20:30 pracccctical Aug 20 04:20:51 no offense, but there are no practical reasons for any tablet other than luxury items and playthings Aug 20 04:21:18 thar sucks Aug 20 04:21:21 I'll resell it Aug 20 04:21:24 :) Aug 20 04:21:47 bpadalino, do you by any chance have any links related to putting ubuntu on it? Aug 20 04:21:49 why not let someone who really wants one buy it instead? Aug 20 04:22:17 wait, what? don't you call destroying your life and relationships with an angry birds addiction a practical reason for owning a tablet? :D Aug 20 04:22:33 bpadalino: I use tablets for extensive reading of 8x11 PDFs Aug 20 04:23:21 ok Aug 20 04:23:21 heh, my wife got the discount from shopping.hp.com Aug 20 04:23:47 orly Aug 20 04:24:00 On android if I have Firefox installed, every link I click prompts me what app I want to open the link with. Aug 20 04:24:04 There's angry birds for webOS? Aug 20 04:24:18 the angriest birds Aug 20 04:24:30 and the lesser known, crazy chickens Aug 20 04:24:41 pissed poultry ? Aug 20 04:25:31 +1 Aug 20 04:26:49 klausa: Yes. Aug 20 04:27:15 Cool. Aug 20 04:27:29 bpadalino, I apologize for highlighting you again, but do you know where I could find more information about putting ubuntu on it? Aug 20 04:27:37 Wondering whether my friends order will go through. Aug 20 04:28:02 bhrams: sorry - just google or some people in #webos-internals might have more info .. i don't have either a tp or run ubuntu in a chroot Aug 20 04:28:15 ran my phone battery down on hold waiting for hp csr to come online Aug 20 04:28:20 bpadalino, no problem, thanks Aug 20 04:28:47 call dropped, start over. :-/ Aug 20 04:29:03 lol Aug 20 04:29:07 bartholemew, how long? Aug 20 04:29:24 i've been on hold for over an hour Aug 20 04:29:32 not sure how long on the phone but an hour sounds about right Aug 20 04:29:34 if you call can you get pre2 site says out of stock Aug 20 04:29:57 my phone battery is dead and my call is over. Aug 20 04:30:19 had a 16GB tp in my cart at shopping.hp.com but it disappeared Aug 20 04:30:30 website was not showing new price yet Aug 20 04:30:39 16 out of stock go for 32 Aug 20 04:30:57 website still does not show updated prices Aug 20 04:31:16 goto slickdeals they tell you how to get cheaper prices Aug 20 04:31:45 They acutally deleted that info. Aug 20 04:31:49 you mean with the save15hp and save30hp coupons? Aug 20 04:31:56 fuckers Aug 20 04:31:56 hola Aug 20 04:32:10 no sign up for epp or something Aug 20 04:32:20 what's epp? Aug 20 04:32:53 forget some kind of discount thingy klausa know what I mean Aug 20 04:33:43 ziplock503: the 2727 code? Aug 20 04:33:51 My friend used that to buy one for me. Aug 20 04:34:04 the Ep something code like a business account or something Aug 20 04:34:54 was hoping for a $49 pre2 but they out of stock Aug 20 04:34:56 isn't it discounted already? Aug 20 04:35:14 it doesn't show unless you do that Aug 20 04:35:44 did anyone ever make that list of apps-open-sourced-by-death-of-webOS? Aug 20 04:35:46 ah whatever Aug 20 04:35:51 going to sleep Aug 20 04:37:33 lol, just spoke to a sales rep Aug 20 04:37:52 she said 1) no additional discounts over the phone, full price will be charged, and discounted later Aug 20 04:38:00 and? do tell. Aug 20 04:38:04 no 16GB? Aug 20 04:38:05 2) the 32gb units will be gone in 20 mins Aug 20 04:38:20 i can get 'em cheaper off the internet Aug 20 04:38:23 damn Aug 20 04:38:32 16 sold out Aug 20 04:38:37 has been for an hour Aug 20 04:38:45 the slickdeals link gets you the 32GB for $149 Aug 20 04:38:53 sign up for epp here Aug 20 04:38:59 wait for it one sec Aug 20 04:39:11 ebay is going to be full of these by the middle of next week Aug 20 04:39:32 shopping.hp.com/webapp/shopping/register_epp.do Aug 20 04:39:34 how's the performance with the latest OS upgrade? Aug 20 04:39:51 for company code enter EP4297 Aug 20 04:40:15 then once logged in click top left hp logo Aug 20 04:40:16 * umccullough just ordered two more off the website Aug 20 04:40:32 I'm tempted to get one (have an original pre) but haven't played with a tablet. Aug 20 04:40:39 click shop for products and services and go tablets price should be lowered Aug 20 04:40:51 that's the secret! Aug 20 04:40:57 ziplock503 lowered to what? Aug 20 04:41:02 ok the SAVE30HP coupon doesn't work on the 32GB but the SAVE15HP one does .... $135 Aug 20 04:41:02 $149/ea Aug 20 04:41:13 and yes, you can save another 30 Aug 20 04:41:20 but only if you pay more than $150 Aug 20 04:41:31 that help anyone? Aug 20 04:41:34 i bought two at a time Aug 20 04:41:45 to $99 and 149 Aug 20 04:41:59 ah oh yeah. so buy something cheap w/the TP Aug 20 04:42:02 ziplock503, the 16gb units are gone anyway ;) Aug 20 04:42:20 yeah I know Aug 20 04:42:29 so are pre2s Aug 20 04:42:51 the question becomes: what happens if they invalidate the EPP? Aug 20 04:42:57 the epp thing gets me 16gb for $99, pre2 for $50 (both OOS) but 32GB at 499? Aug 20 04:43:00 cuz then we're all screwed ;) Aug 20 04:43:38 dtzWill, the 32gb can be gotten that way as well, but my wife had to register a dfiferent account to get it Aug 20 04:43:46 weird .. see it for 149 Aug 20 04:43:55 dunno why Aug 20 04:44:04 I got it to 134 with save15now Aug 20 04:44:18 save15hp I mean Aug 20 04:45:01 i am doing the same as ziplock503 right now Aug 20 04:45:24 still listed at $499, but others are right Aug 20 04:45:25 $#!$#! :( Aug 20 04:45:58 dtzwill are you able to do it through hp academic site? Aug 20 04:46:07 haven't tried, is that supposed to work? Aug 20 04:46:07 that is how i am doing it Aug 20 04:46:26 WOHOO Aug 20 04:46:26 same price, i did it since i am a former college grad it lets me Aug 20 04:46:34 It is finally showing up at $99 and $149 for me Aug 20 04:46:48 the lady i spoke with said the irony is that hte sale doesn't start until tomorrow, but there won't be any left Aug 20 04:47:10 oh, and she said it's CRAZY Aug 20 04:47:23 when i told her "touchpad", she said: "no way...i don't believe it" Aug 20 04:47:40 what? Aug 20 04:47:56 wooot Aug 20 04:48:32 "how can i help you?" Aug 20 04:48:37 me: "touchpad" Aug 20 04:49:03 got 14 more minutes to call HP Aug 20 04:54:18 umccullough: the guy I talked to two hours ago was the same way Aug 20 04:54:18 so how can these be had now? Aug 20 04:54:26 "Hi, sales and support, are you interested in the touchpad" Aug 20 04:54:32 "Yup. Hook me up." Aug 20 04:54:36 lol Aug 20 04:55:00 just call sales? Aug 20 04:55:07 After the sale, "Good luck, sounds like you guys are gonna need it." "thank you, we sure will" Aug 20 04:56:29 well hopefully some of the hoarders are going to spread the love and unload on ebay. i'm only trying to buy one; still no cooperation from website Aug 20 04:56:36 this has to be the laughing stock of the tech world Aug 20 04:56:53 kill a product completely a few weeks after launch Aug 20 04:57:31 s/a few/seven/ Aug 20 04:57:40 but yeah Aug 20 04:57:44 Almost long enough for regular people to realize it exists Aug 20 04:58:20 does anyone know who, if anyone, else other than hp.com sells the unlocked pre2s? Aug 20 04:58:21 it is the former Palm guy that pushed HP into buying Palm Aug 20 04:58:31 whats the number for hp sales Aug 20 04:58:36 i gotta give to my friend Aug 20 04:58:37 I bet of the current CEO was there that deal would have never happened Aug 20 04:58:38 r/n Aug 20 04:58:49 dtzWill: do your searches NOT logged in Aug 20 04:59:04 the hp site gives you EPP* product numbers that are not discounted if you do your searches while logged in Aug 20 04:59:34 wow, crazy. tyvm Aug 20 04:59:39 finally see the $150 now Aug 20 04:59:44 So, let's say I wanted one of those $99 TouchPads. Aug 20 04:59:50 go tomorrow to a store Aug 20 04:59:52 when they open Aug 20 04:59:54 Okay. Aug 20 05:00:01 that'll be the 16g models Aug 20 05:00:04 er nvm Aug 20 05:00:05 or, keep an eye on amazon Aug 20 05:00:58 hey, touchpad 99 online yet? Aug 20 05:01:08 online and gone in canada Aug 20 05:01:43 it was on target and out of stock Aug 20 05:02:22 is there anywhere its still available to order (canada)? Aug 20 05:02:32 any more yet? Aug 20 05:02:32 think any will be available in store tomorrow? Aug 20 05:02:55 call up all your friends, and get each one to go to a different store at open Aug 20 05:03:01 bb and staples Aug 20 05:03:03 tell every one to buy as many as possible Aug 20 05:04:26 guys, market it as the best e reader Aug 20 05:04:31 based on current knowledge how realistic is the concept of android running on the touchpads? Aug 20 05:04:49 how hackable is it? Aug 20 05:04:59 still supports the konami code? Aug 20 05:05:03 i don't think there's any device more hackable Aug 20 05:05:05 that's important Aug 20 05:05:20 are the system images signed or can you drop anything you want on it? Aug 20 05:05:24 there is a lot of work involved Aug 20 05:05:24 to put android on it Aug 20 05:05:24 easy to unbrick it? Aug 20 05:05:32 yeh there is Aug 20 05:05:38 super easy Aug 20 05:05:43 a lot of work != impossible Aug 20 05:05:47 connect via usb, run a program Aug 20 05:05:49 i know Aug 20 05:05:51 run a .jar Aug 20 05:05:58 with the amount of people offering to chip in money on xda-dev if it's just a matter of work then there will definitely be someone to undertake it Aug 20 05:06:06 cool Aug 20 05:06:09 rod whitby stated that it is unbrickable Aug 20 05:06:15 don't quote me on that Aug 20 05:06:20 i'm just curious if it's a dead end even with a lot of time or there actually is progress to be made Aug 20 05:06:29 woah rwhitby Aug 20 05:06:36 the veer on the other hand can be bricked Aug 20 05:06:45 I have stated nothing of the sort about the touchpad Aug 20 05:06:50 is the battery user replaceable? Aug 20 05:06:51 the veer bricking problem was fixed IIRC Aug 20 05:06:58 oh nice Aug 20 05:07:06 how fast is it? Aug 20 05:07:15 thanks for the clarification Aug 20 05:07:40 All Pre/Pre+/Pre2 are unbrickable. Pixi has not been bricked. Veer is brickable. TouchPad is unknown. Aug 20 05:07:51 You can't brick any of them with stuff in Preware, even in the testing feeds. Aug 20 05:08:19 rwhitby : is buying touchpad good idea? Aug 20 05:08:22 http://www.precentral.net/hp-veer-gets-bricked-disassembled Aug 20 05:08:30 1.2ghz stock, 1.5ghz uberkernel is avail in preware Aug 20 05:08:33 I got a pixi+ Aug 20 05:08:46 even if it only ever runs webos i think $150 for a 32GB tablet is a good idea if you're looking for one siestacat Aug 20 05:08:46 siestacat: if you are asking that question, then the answer is no. Aug 20 05:09:09 warthog at 1.7xxghz worked great for me as well Aug 20 05:09:22 how quick is it at 1.5ghz? Aug 20 05:09:31 even just as an e reader and movie machine Aug 20 05:09:39 lonequid: which android kernel and graphics driver devs are leading the development? Aug 20 05:09:41 can be beat Aug 20 05:09:50 no netflix support, right? Aug 20 05:09:52 can't Aug 20 05:10:04 best touchpad uses? Aug 20 05:10:18 rwhitby: no idea, i haven't seen any devs announce undertaking it yet, just a thread full of people on xda-dev willing to donate Aug 20 05:10:19 siestacat: according to apple folks, half the speed of an iPad 2 Aug 20 05:11:18 rwhitby : I saw, but ipads suck balls Aug 20 05:11:19 browsing internet, talking with friends, viewing emails, watching videos, playing music, playing games, having fun, enjoying it, patching it, talking in irc Aug 20 05:11:41 * dtzWill in for 3 Aug 20 05:11:48 you forgot being a smug non-ipad user Aug 20 05:11:56 :) Aug 20 05:11:59 viewing photos, showing it off to friends, making apps...... Aug 20 05:12:01 that's the best part Aug 20 05:12:15 any idea how many were sold? Aug 20 05:12:16 I'm developing as we speak Aug 20 05:12:31 people say lots of retailers are shipping their stock back to HP Aug 20 05:12:31 all sold out at hp.com guys Aug 20 05:12:33 IGNTNUNLMTD: all of them Aug 20 05:12:37 holy SHIT Aug 20 05:12:40 all 200k? Aug 20 05:12:42 enyo instead of 1.4.5's whatever would be good Aug 20 05:12:47 well all that they have right now Aug 20 05:12:50 how about android chroot? Aug 20 05:12:59 i'm sure the sale will continue when they recieve more from retailers Aug 20 05:13:02 but major retailers like target, radio shack, amazon, newegg, etc. haven't lowered their prices yet, so they're either shipping the inv back to HP or will lower the prices tomorrow Aug 20 05:13:03 fxspec06, they're not shipping them back now that hp announced firesale ;) Aug 20 05:13:13 /mindtrick You don't want Android. Aug 20 05:13:28 he may Aug 20 05:13:39 fxspec06, all retailers are authorized to sell at discount price Aug 20 05:13:43 why would anyone put Android on a touchpad Aug 20 05:13:45 I don't get it Aug 20 05:14:05 i won't be recommending webos to anyone right now. how can i? oh hey, go buy this webos--- oh wait Aug 20 05:14:16 ah come on, man :-( Aug 20 05:14:22 Honeycomb is worse, and you know it Aug 20 05:14:25 I bet the cancelled anything else Aug 20 05:14:33 yes, i know this Aug 20 05:14:36 IGNTNUNLMTD: my friend bout one about 20 minutes bfore me, if order numbers are sequential (i know not all are touchpad) 8000 orders were placed Aug 20 05:14:38 They will prob offer what is in transit now Aug 20 05:14:45 production is being shut down Aug 20 05:14:45 but right now it's in a better position to succeed than webos is Aug 20 05:14:48 if not already Aug 20 05:15:05 fxspec06: you're gonna get a lot of sales from this Aug 20 05:15:10 look at it that way Aug 20 05:15:16 right now i am Aug 20 05:15:37 which is a good thing. but it could have been more Aug 20 05:15:40 so much more Aug 20 05:15:44 considering i just bought 4 touchpads...and i didn't ever intend to own a tablet... Aug 20 05:15:54 sell one to me :P Aug 20 05:15:55 woah did you get 16GB? Aug 20 05:16:00 32gb's Aug 20 05:16:05 4 of them Aug 20 05:16:10 lonequid: The discount was supposed to start on Sunday, but Best Buy/Future Shop Canada started already. Aug 20 05:16:16 ah Aug 20 05:16:23 and then I guess HP followed on their site Aug 20 05:16:27 hp told me the discount starts tomorrow, but they're out of stock ;) Aug 20 05:16:29 PCRichard dropped the price too Aug 20 05:16:41 Yeah, kinda have to follow the leader as far as sales go Aug 20 05:16:45 Shadyman, both are futureshop and bestbuy canada are sold out, right? Aug 20 05:16:46 maybe they started early to try to ease the hearts and minds of broken-hearted developers Aug 20 05:16:47 the lady said: "the ugly secret is, there won't be any left" Aug 20 05:16:49 (like me) Aug 20 05:16:53 bhrams: I'd imagine, yes. Aug 20 05:17:00 :P Aug 20 05:17:11 app sales ya they could spike but let's see how many people buy because of the fire sale and then say "meh" in a month and put the tablet in a drawer or closet forever Aug 20 05:17:27 they're all going to be gone Aug 20 05:17:33 bartholemew: not before they spend some good money on apps in that one month Aug 20 05:17:44 figure they saved so much on the tablet they can spend more on apps Aug 20 05:17:51 haha Aug 20 05:17:53 more people will have the HP TouchPad than people had the Pre, Pre+, and Pre2 combined Aug 20 05:18:01 ^ Aug 20 05:18:04 and Veer and Pixi Aug 20 05:18:16 is it a loss for HP at these prices? Aug 20 05:18:22 of course Aug 20 05:18:22 lonequid: Definitely. Aug 20 05:18:25 in the mind of a consumer do they want to invest in paid apps on a possibly dead end OS Aug 20 05:18:29 all of a sudden, webos might be a valuable asset if hp sells it Aug 20 05:18:29 here is thequestion Aug 20 05:18:31 time will tell Aug 20 05:18:34 They're totally pumping up webOS Aug 20 05:18:40 could have been a brilliant move Aug 20 05:18:45 though they're taking a loss on the hardware Aug 20 05:18:47 yes, they are. in a convoluted Aug 20 05:18:52 very very messed up way Aug 20 05:18:53 it's the game console method Aug 20 05:18:59 it might just work Aug 20 05:19:01 they can write off the hardware as a loss Aug 20 05:19:09 basically they're throwing the devs a cookie :) Aug 20 05:19:10 sell the OS at a profit to another corporation Aug 20 05:19:13 i expect to see another editorial by derek kessler tomorrow at 12p about that Aug 20 05:19:19 ; ) Aug 20 05:19:21 haha Aug 20 05:19:23 umccullough: exactly it could be well timed to put the losses all in this quarter Aug 20 05:19:31 maybe. again it depends on whether the consumer thinks "i'm not spending on apps when this OS could be dead next year" Aug 20 05:19:33 jrabbit,that's what i'm thinkin' Aug 20 05:19:39 it was a brilliant marketing move Aug 20 05:19:40 I hear they're going to bring back amigados too. just needs the right company behind it. Aug 20 05:19:42 bartholemew: free aps ftw? Aug 20 05:19:48 it's hardly brilliant Aug 20 05:19:48 roue: +1 Aug 20 05:19:56 umccullough: that or they accidently the entire company Aug 20 05:19:59 brilliant marketign, brilliant tax writeoff Aug 20 05:20:06 we'll see Aug 20 05:20:19 only if they've got someone lined up Aug 20 05:20:27 then it's brilliant Aug 20 05:20:30 more like fell into a stupid pit, and came out the other side albert einstein Aug 20 05:20:36 ^ lol Aug 20 05:20:40 some blog somewhere said that HP was destined to face apple in court over copycat design issues so this was their way of cutting that off at the pass - just exit the H/W biz Aug 20 05:20:44 Loudergood: I'd like to see HTC make webOS phones Aug 20 05:20:52 ^^^^^^^ Aug 20 05:21:18 The latest lineup of HTC phones has some serious kick-ass-ish-ness to it Aug 20 05:21:42 bartholemew: that strikes me as absurd..I can't see anyone wanting to face that patent chest Aug 20 05:21:54 would be +1 if they made the htc pre 4 or somesuch Aug 20 05:22:00 Kids down...webOS outreach going well. A Palm dev relations person sent me an email asking for a job. Can't wait to talk to him. #gumption Aug 20 05:22:07 thats a tweet from devrel at wp7 Aug 20 05:22:19 trolololo Aug 20 05:22:21 i'm sure hp has plenty of patents to face apple with so it was a bit of a wild theory in that article Aug 20 05:22:21 Brandon Watson Aug 20 05:22:49 CTLAdvance: So MS is getting their cheap shots in Aug 20 05:22:54 * Shadyman shrugs Aug 20 05:23:05 not entirely unexpected Aug 20 05:23:31 i'm surprised nobody else has taken their shots Aug 20 05:23:40 if you want to win, kcik a man when he's down Aug 20 05:23:54 I think everyone else is either respectable enough or can stand on their own two feet Aug 20 05:23:55 RIM will in a few weeks Aug 20 05:23:57 * Shadyman trolled Aug 20 05:24:06 they're always late to the show Aug 20 05:24:07 I dont consider that cheap at all Aug 20 05:24:19 They are having a field day of devs defecting Aug 20 05:24:36 CTLAdvance: Of course, though bragging about it on twitter is kinda low Aug 20 05:24:45 with the point of trying to get more Aug 20 05:24:54 if you look at his feed, he has been responding to devs non stop Aug 20 05:25:10 ok I will give you that one Aug 20 05:25:20 low, but not cheap Aug 20 05:25:24 :) Aug 20 05:25:27 Okay Aug 20 05:25:32 seems like predictable tit for tat ... i seem to remember the nokia/microsoft announcement being followed by some webOS folks saying "c'mon over here" to jilted Qt/Symbian devs ... ;) Aug 20 05:25:37 hmm order verification. will see if it goes through... Aug 20 05:25:39 i'll meet you halfway and say low but not cheap Aug 20 05:25:55 this is going to turn into Duke Nukem Forever, webOS forever, 13 years of failing support, it will get sold to someone else, then we will get a product that takes 30 minutes to boot up Aug 20 05:25:57 well in all fairness, symbian never had any chance. nor the comminity or support Aug 20 05:26:02 dtzWill: I've been sitting on an order at "Admin" status since monday Aug 20 05:26:13 sooo maybe hp is making webos and palm buyout look good for someone to purchase it Aug 20 05:26:13 webos has the backbone, right now Aug 20 05:26:26 and that backbone just got stronger Aug 20 05:26:35 hey all Aug 20 05:26:45 fxspec06: To the tune of 100k+ touchpad users Aug 20 05:26:49 donation pool is up to $600 on xda-dev for android on the touchpad Aug 20 05:26:56 lovely Aug 20 05:26:59 lonequid: Ffffuuu--- Aug 20 05:27:07 lol Aug 20 05:27:12 not to mention the 10 or so people who just said "i'd donate" Aug 20 05:27:16 why are people paying into that Aug 20 05:27:22 well at least this hardware will run honeycomb nice ;) Aug 20 05:27:27 ;) Aug 20 05:27:28 how about a bounty for Ubuntu on the touchpad? Aug 20 05:27:29 cuz a touchpad running android is awesome? Aug 20 05:27:30 into? Aug 20 05:27:32 the user base of all webos devices combined before the hp touchpad was ~20k, probably less Aug 20 05:27:35 CTLAdvance: like honeycomb is out there :P Aug 20 05:27:44 umccullough: if less usable Aug 20 05:27:47 hopefully all the folks who pigged out on 8 or 10 or more TP's tonight won't just put them in an webOS museum. :D Aug 20 05:27:50 I am hoping we get a win8 install that will work on this Aug 20 05:27:54 what are we talking about? Aug 20 05:27:54 it wouldn't surprise me if after the end of next week, the userbase is 1/4 mil Aug 20 05:28:00 Shadyman, still awesome for the future ;) Aug 20 05:28:02 someone said they got through to HP and they said they sold more than 300k touchpads Aug 20 05:28:06 ah that true, they never released the source Aug 20 05:28:07 wtf Aug 20 05:28:13 well thats pointless than Aug 20 05:28:20 they'll release the source Aug 20 05:28:25 once it's old Aug 20 05:28:27 there are homebrew kernels though Aug 20 05:28:33 sounds a bit high but woudl be awesome Aug 20 05:28:48 first line i'll read if it's oss... PmBt* Aug 20 05:28:48 kirksutton: Well, if BB alone was sitting on 250k, I'd believe it. Aug 20 05:28:49 lol Aug 20 05:28:49 1/4 mil by end of next week. that my projection Aug 20 05:28:57 wow Aug 20 05:28:59 devices in hand Aug 20 05:29:12 This is so dumb it's brilliant. Aug 20 05:29:16 i know Aug 20 05:29:20 well maybe this was an excuse for the selloff, now it will get reborn with a new userbase Aug 20 05:29:22 except for the whole 'making money' part. Aug 20 05:29:22 :) Aug 20 05:29:25 let me let you guys in a lil info Aug 20 05:29:34 though its highly unlikely Aug 20 05:29:35 they can make tons of money off licensing Aug 20 05:29:35 what's HP's cut on app sales? Aug 20 05:29:38 are you kidding me Aug 20 05:29:44 :) Aug 20 05:29:45 my app for phone has been in cat 31 days, and has 39 sales Aug 20 05:29:45 Ape-o will eat this now... Aug 20 05:29:52 and shares will continue to plumit Aug 20 05:29:57 fxspec06: Price? Aug 20 05:29:57 same app has been for tp 9 days, and has 75 sales Aug 20 05:30:00 .99 Aug 20 05:30:01 :o Aug 20 05:30:04 Nice. Aug 20 05:30:08 standard and poors is now giving HP an A- Aug 20 05:30:20 nebula: It has to get worse before it gets better Aug 20 05:30:26 fxspec06 what's your app? Aug 20 05:30:27 fxspec06: hopefully you more than double that tomorrow when everyone gets their hands on them :) Aug 20 05:30:31 thanks i'll be here all night Aug 20 05:30:34 wildn video poker Aug 20 05:30:38 Shadyman: true Aug 20 05:30:50 yep, hoping for sure Aug 20 05:30:53 shit, i've never considered webos development until now ;) Aug 20 05:30:55 alrighty, bedtime. Then time to go to work, get my 2x 32GB touchpads, come home, and dev the crap out of'em Aug 20 05:31:05 yeah i'm tired too Aug 20 05:31:05 but all of a sudden i'll have 4 of these Aug 20 05:31:16 you can create a beowulf cluster. Aug 20 05:31:21 lol Aug 20 05:31:32 my kids will be happy Aug 20 05:31:40 might make them put down the DS Lites Aug 20 05:31:48 https://developer.palm.com/appredirect/?packageid=com.fxspec.wildnpokerhd Aug 20 05:31:48 Actually I figure, most people will have between 3 - 5 days before they see them Aug 20 05:31:59 So I have that long to get stuff in the catalog Aug 20 05:32:00 :) Aug 20 05:32:11 CTLAdvance, free shipping for mine will be 5-7 days Aug 20 05:32:15 yep Aug 20 05:32:17 same here Aug 20 05:32:20 once processed Aug 20 05:32:22 plus processing ;) Aug 20 05:32:27 which might be a coupld days :P Aug 20 05:32:35 i need to submit an update for clearview. i'll probably do it sunday. that app is also flying Aug 20 05:32:38 arg, can't find anywhere to order Aug 20 05:32:39 once the military approves all the employee sales ;) Aug 20 05:32:46 watch them be like, oh we only had 23k, we need to produce the remaining 500k we sold today Aug 20 05:32:47 sorry Aug 20 05:32:52 lol Aug 20 05:32:57 omg lol Aug 20 05:32:57 lolol Aug 20 05:32:58 Slate7 had the same issue Aug 20 05:33:19 "we'll produce those once the production costs are less than we sold them for" Aug 20 05:33:26 lol Aug 20 05:33:46 "we're actually selling these ones to pay for the electricity to keep the plants running so we can make more to give to you guys" Aug 20 05:34:46 k, time for bed. night guys Aug 20 05:34:52 nite Aug 20 05:37:34 my orders were 20 minutes apart and the #s differ by 2850 Aug 20 05:37:40 holy. shit. Aug 20 05:37:48 I think the userbase did well. :-P Aug 20 05:37:54 this is good for devs Aug 20 05:38:06 I don't know what to think anymore Aug 20 05:38:09 so ridiculous Aug 20 05:38:10 I almost feel like I should pick up a second one Aug 20 05:38:12 who knows how many pcrichard.com had but they sold out of both also Aug 20 05:38:15 I always increment my order numbers by more than 1! Aug 20 05:38:17 * Tibfib might buy a touchpad Aug 20 05:38:39 tibfib what? Aug 20 05:38:43 oh Aug 20 05:39:20 Do it Aug 20 05:40:49 well I have one coming monday Aug 20 05:40:55 but I might by a second tomorrow at my local best buy Aug 20 05:41:08 Is it worth picking up a replacement? I'm really frustrated by the price drop 3 weeks after I bought one Aug 20 05:41:12 you think best buy will honor 99$ deal? Aug 20 05:41:19 summatus_pre: pretty sure it won't go much lower than this! Aug 20 05:41:37 I agree, doesn't mean I need a second one Aug 20 05:41:38 lonequid, my two orders were 15 mins apart and 1305 apart in # Aug 20 05:41:40 im on phone with hp trying to see what i can score lol Aug 20 05:41:43 and i ordered 2 each time Aug 20 05:41:51 umccullough: when did you order? Aug 20 05:41:58 so I might get some godly sales numbers for nomnomnom Aug 20 05:42:07 woot Aug 20 05:42:17 9:22 PM PDT and 9:37 PM PDT Aug 20 05:42:28 I can maybe justify $150 Aug 20 05:42:28 over an hour ago Aug 20 05:42:34 anyone get pre@ for 49? Aug 20 05:42:37 pre2 Aug 20 05:42:39 mine are 9:32 and 9:51 Aug 20 05:42:39 no :( Aug 20 05:42:42 But I don't know that I _need_ another one Aug 20 05:42:50 9:32 ends in 3939 Aug 20 05:42:50 https://twitter.com/trsohmers/status/104788233908531200 Aug 20 05:42:52 don't forget save15hp and save30hp coupon codes Aug 20 05:42:55 Wait, pre2 for 49? Aug 20 05:43:03 yup Aug 20 05:43:23 Is that still available? Aug 20 05:43:31 http://twitter.com/#!/BrandonWatson/status/104775932547567617 -- ok then Aug 20 05:43:32 lonequid, i'm surprised any were left at 9:51 ;) Aug 20 05:43:36 that was right at the end Aug 20 05:43:44 yeah that one is still being verified Aug 20 05:44:00 they are showing not in stock so im caling to see Aug 20 05:44:29 zipock503, when i spoke to them at 9:30, they said "20 more minutes before we run out" Aug 20 05:44:35 that was over an hour ago Aug 20 05:44:50 Tibfib: No! Aug 20 05:44:59 ? Aug 20 05:45:11 on your impending touchpad purchase Aug 20 05:45:16 why? Aug 20 05:45:24 meh, just trolling ;) Aug 20 05:45:29 that was for 32g Aug 20 05:45:41 Ew, why Android? I still don't get it. Why downgrade? Aug 20 05:45:41 they are sold out of touchpads Aug 20 05:45:51 yeah, you buying pre's? Aug 20 05:45:59 trying to Aug 20 05:46:02 neat Aug 20 05:46:26 off set the $200 i spent on my sprint pre2 Aug 20 05:46:32 heh Aug 20 05:46:34 heads up http://officedepot.com has an announcement for the low prices on their homepage but hasn't dropped them yet Aug 20 05:46:38 i don't do cell phones... Aug 20 05:46:53 thanks lonequid Aug 20 05:47:02 np Aug 20 05:47:05 nice Aug 20 05:47:20 wonder when we can get $10 touchstone for the touchpad !!! Aug 20 05:47:20 summatus_pre: sold out Aug 20 05:47:36 oh odd they just removed it Aug 20 05:47:53 nvm its back o_O Aug 20 05:48:35 * umccullough predicts an app firesale next Aug 20 05:48:41 lol Aug 20 05:48:51 officedepot has Aug 20 05:48:52 people will want ot get as much out of the newbs as possible Aug 20 05:48:53 i wonder the same thing ziplock503 Aug 20 05:48:58 $130/$150 Aug 20 05:49:21 i want my facebook contest touchapd now!!! Aug 20 05:49:28 me too Aug 20 05:51:19 tomorrow: return touchpad to Staples for $399, buy touchpad at bestbuy for $150 Aug 20 05:51:45 hmm, I should convince my parents to buy the touchpad tomorrow Aug 20 05:51:52 you might even be able to buy it at staples for 100 Aug 20 05:51:55 err 150 Aug 20 05:52:04 IGNTNUNLMTD I am doing the same thing Aug 20 05:52:17 bought one for my mom Aug 20 05:52:18 tomorrow is the last day for me to do so! Aug 20 05:52:22 SAME Aug 20 05:52:23 haha Aug 20 05:52:25 isn't staples selling them? Aug 20 05:52:26 dwc-: which? TP or pre2? Aug 20 05:52:45 perfect timing Aug 20 05:52:48 amusing to see touchpad commercials still in full effect Aug 20 05:52:54 pre2 sold out awhile ago Aug 20 05:52:56 i bought one for my stepdad Aug 20 05:53:10 i broke my free pre2 Aug 20 05:55:38 can I publish a webos app? Aug 20 05:55:52 * jrabbit would love to steal a phone from microsoft Aug 20 05:55:54 http://www.winrumors.com/microsoft-offers-webos-developers-free-windows-phones-and-dev-tools/ Aug 20 05:59:43 dwc-: sorry, switched devices. Which sold out? Aug 20 06:00:03 all are sold out at hp.com ;) Aug 20 06:00:22 * Tibfib hopes to get a free wp7 device Aug 20 06:01:43 Wait, really? Is their inventory really going that quickly? Aug 20 06:02:05 i have a deactivated sprint comm board, pre is broken though. can i stick into pre plus to activate? Aug 20 06:02:09 summatus_tp, yep Aug 20 06:02:42 Damn, my family might be disappointed then Aug 20 06:03:15 get in line, buy one at best buy tomorrow Aug 20 06:03:32 or staples, or officedepot Aug 20 06:03:45 or anywhere that sells them and price matches Aug 20 06:03:50 frys Aug 20 06:03:58 walmart Aug 20 06:04:23 all of them now Aug 20 06:04:31 originally just the pre2 Aug 20 06:04:42 Crap Aug 20 06:05:43 Amazon is still showing the big price Aug 20 06:05:58 'evening everyone Aug 20 06:06:14 supposedly, the sale doesnt' start until tomrorow Aug 20 06:06:32 or rather, an hour from now Aug 20 06:06:39 at least, pdt Aug 20 06:06:46 not sure if it's eastern time Aug 20 06:06:57 Its 1am my time Aug 20 06:07:07 dkirker: hey Aug 20 06:07:13 hi Tibfib! Aug 20 06:07:20 right, i'm guessing each store will start their sale whenever they figure out what's going on ;) Aug 20 06:07:27 only place i find pre2's is the verizon store and they wont price match wil they Aug 20 06:07:42 zipock503, if they don't, they won't sell 'em Aug 20 06:08:24 lol the slickdeals thread is growing 2 pages a minute Aug 20 06:08:41 I donno umccullough they mgiht have to sell them with contract Aug 20 06:08:46 to bad they erased the helpful info in that thread fukers Aug 20 06:09:13 google still has it cached but the link that worked for me I didn't even find in there Aug 20 06:09:28 lonequid, the hp.com one? Aug 20 06:09:38 sooo, I think this fire sale will be really good for app sales Aug 20 06:09:39 yeah Aug 20 06:09:45 "Called HP just now and the rep said "being verified"=may not be shipped, "processing"=guaranteed shipment. " Aug 20 06:09:52 lonequid, since theyr'e sold out... i guess it's no longe rvalid ;) Aug 20 06:09:56 "Just got off the phone with HP, the Rep says as long as you got an order in, you will get a touchpad. Doesn't matter how you did it." Aug 20 06:10:02 lots of trolls/conflicting information in the thread Aug 20 06:10:11 lonequid, both my orders say processing :D Aug 20 06:10:19 wheere are you guys ordering from? Aug 20 06:10:20 hp online? Aug 20 06:10:26 my 2nd one is stuck on verified Aug 20 06:10:40 i only really want one, 2nd was for a friend/family because I figured someone would want one Aug 20 06:10:45 Tibfib: yeah but it's sold out now Aug 20 06:10:55 * umccullough does the happy dance Aug 20 06:10:57 Anyone seeing any accessories on sake? I could use a TS/keyboard Aug 20 06:11:04 i ordered 2 each time Aug 20 06:11:10 Sale* Aug 20 06:11:14 nice Aug 20 06:11:16 shit... i could use a keyboard too Aug 20 06:11:25 My TouchPad has now joined my Tapwave Zodiac. :( Aug 20 06:11:26 but i suspect those won't sell right away Aug 20 06:11:30 16GB TouchPad is now unavailable on Amazon. Aug 20 06:11:49 people buying it with the hope that the price goes down? Aug 20 06:12:20 Hrm, or possibly a glitch Aug 20 06:12:28 Yeah, amazon is still showing the normal price for me. Aug 20 06:12:36 or they're sending em elsewhere and pulled it from the site Aug 20 06:12:38 or the stock is actually elsewhere and they sold out Aug 20 06:12:39 dkirker: hey are app updates gonna get cleared through soon? Aug 20 06:12:40 sup sup sup Aug 20 06:13:07 so what exactly is the deal with the price change Aug 20 06:13:16 firesale Aug 20 06:13:21 in US? Aug 20 06:13:23 Tibfib: Yes! My apologies on the delay. I'm sure you understand what has been going on. :/ Aug 20 06:13:29 Tibfib: I don't think I would want an app update to go through today - too likely for something to go wrong with no hope of repair ever Aug 20 06:13:33 dkirker: completely Aug 20 06:14:05 rwhitby: true Aug 20 06:14:15 Tibfib: I was told by Lisa that simply adding Pre 3 to the list of devices for PHD would take a week. Aug 20 06:14:32 hmmm, that's ridiculous Aug 20 06:15:24 Tibfib: mainly cause I wanted min webos version to remain at 1.0.0 Aug 20 06:15:45 * summatus_tp leaves sticky note open on pre- to remind him to check accessory prices tomorrow. Aug 20 06:15:56 the person who runs the app catalog should have been fired months ago Aug 20 06:16:31 cause modifications to it's operation are indistinguishable from random perturbations Aug 20 06:17:07 rwhitby: what does WOSI do with older hardware? Aug 20 06:17:13 and it's usefulness had gotten steadily worse since 1.4.5 Aug 20 06:17:33 S'pose I could move to #w-I too Aug 20 06:17:40 lonequid: any idea wher eyou see being verified or processing? Aug 20 06:17:41 summatus_tp: I personally still test apps against devices running 1.4.5 Aug 20 06:17:53 dwc-: "my orders" Aug 20 06:18:02 Ah, so generally, still in use then Aug 20 06:18:04 gosh, 1.4.5 on a pre- was such a slow and terrible experience Aug 20 06:18:05 all I got was a receipt Aug 20 06:18:16 super frustrating after a while Aug 20 06:18:19 https://www.shopping.hp.com/webapp/shopping/order_status_sign_in.do Aug 20 06:18:30 oh I should try signing in even though I'm already signed in Aug 20 06:19:49 rwhitby: reason I ask is that I'm looking to frankenpre, and thought maybe there'd be devices available. But now that I think about it, pre2 is the newest device in most of the world Aug 20 06:20:10 gosh the slickdeals thread is epic Aug 20 06:20:30 hah! I have completely avoided it. Aug 20 06:20:43 i can't get it to load anymore Aug 20 06:20:45 those guys are experts at stacking coupons on coupons Aug 20 06:22:21 I love slickdeals Aug 20 06:22:39 i wish i could find it cheap in stock somewhere :( Aug 20 06:22:46 slickdeals stopped loading for me as wel Aug 20 06:22:49 maik, try a retail store ;) Aug 20 06:22:51 the 500th post in that thread was "i win" heh Aug 20 06:22:56 *5000th Aug 20 06:23:06 umccullough: that's what i'm thinking. gonna try and get out early tomorrow morning and see if i can nab one Aug 20 06:23:11 yep Aug 20 06:23:23 i live in a small area, so it's likely that not many people know about this Aug 20 06:23:24 i might even consider picking up a coupe more at a retail store Aug 20 06:23:40 Tibfib: link? Aug 20 06:23:44 Hello again!. Aug 20 06:23:45 :) Aug 20 06:23:50 http://slickdeals.net/forums/showthread.php?t=3220862&page=349 Aug 20 06:23:52 i wouldn't mind a couple of the 16gb units Aug 20 06:23:59 about a post every second Aug 20 06:24:20 dangit, I'm two pages behind Aug 20 06:24:22 walmart.com says the local store has 32GB in stock Aug 20 06:24:50 just got off the phone and they had SHIT for stock no pre2 or TPs Aug 20 06:24:59 man, that BrandonWatson guy is getting requests allover on twitter Aug 20 06:25:07 maik for how much Aug 20 06:25:23 website still says $498 Aug 20 06:25:29 dunno if they'll even have the deal tomorrow Aug 20 06:25:35 actually...it's a 24-hour walmart, i could go out now Aug 20 06:25:35 i bet they will Aug 20 06:25:35 That pag is about to run out of banwith Aug 20 06:25:42 or, in a half hour Aug 20 06:25:44 maik, bring an ad showing the discount price ;) Aug 20 06:25:51 ooh good one Aug 20 06:25:54 Amazon is going to have the deal Aug 20 06:25:57 IN a couple of minutes Aug 20 06:25:57 i hope i can find one Aug 20 06:26:04 like in 25 minutos or so Aug 20 06:26:46 Aug 19, 2011 $142.32 HP TouchPad Wi-Fi 32GB Item being processed Tracking provided upon shipment. Aug 20 06:26:49 yay Aug 20 06:26:55 nice Aug 20 06:26:57 dwc: nice Aug 20 06:26:58 you win! Aug 20 06:26:58 ;) Aug 20 06:27:06 You're lucky one... Aug 20 06:27:24 I will have to wait for tomorrow because I don't have money in my bank right now.. Aug 20 06:27:35 H118923XXX Aug 19, 2011 $301.89 HP TouchPad Wi-Fi 32GB Item being processed Tracking provided upon shipment. Aug 20 06:27:35 Hope tomorrow I don't loose the deals :( Aug 20 06:27:35 H118922XXX Aug 19, 2011 $301.89 HP TouchPad Wi-Fi 32GB Item being processed Tracking provided upon shipment. Aug 20 06:27:42 ;) Aug 20 06:27:47 banks always get knocked off anyway Aug 20 06:27:53 yep... Aug 20 06:28:05 zipock503: phone with who? Aug 20 06:28:13 might be lookign for antoehr pre2 Aug 20 06:28:47 dont care ill sprintafy it Aug 20 06:29:13 I want to let you know devs Aug 20 06:29:24 WebOS grown like 3% more in XDA DEV Aug 20 06:29:25 ;) Aug 20 06:29:34 and In precentral like 8% Aug 20 06:29:46 I'm actually extremely excited for the potential of app sales in the future Aug 20 06:29:53 this could actually save webOS Aug 20 06:29:54 Yep. Aug 20 06:29:55 in an odd way. Aug 20 06:30:03 indeed Aug 20 06:30:05 HP Fail saves WebOS Aug 20 06:30:06 LOL. Aug 20 06:30:13 HP will write it off as a loss Aug 20 06:30:19 Tibfib: you think folks who got a $99 tablet are going to put in their credit card details? Aug 20 06:30:22 Now that HP is going to make cloud servers Aug 20 06:30:24 its like when rappers get shot or die Aug 20 06:30:28 rwhitby: yes Aug 20 06:30:31 I think they're going to make cloud printers too Aug 20 06:30:31 lol Aug 20 06:31:02 goodnight everyone Aug 20 06:31:03 * DougReeder waves hello Aug 20 06:31:11 hopefully I can score a 32gb touchpad locally tomorrow Aug 20 06:31:13 Nite. Aug 20 06:31:59 i gonna try and buy one in portland tomorrow tax free! Aug 20 06:32:01 Tipfib_: Hope you do. Aug 20 06:32:20 There's no way to me :( Aug 20 06:32:22 I like the idea of scoring a $100 TouchPad, but what would I use a second one for? Aug 20 06:32:24 I don't live in USA Aug 20 06:32:33 I will have to wait to buy it through ebay... Aug 20 06:32:35 TravisAntonio, ebay Aug 20 06:32:39 ;) Aug 20 06:32:47 DougReeder makes the touchpads skype each other Aug 20 06:32:48 .do? dominican republic? Aug 20 06:32:53 Exactly. Aug 20 06:32:54 ;) Aug 20 06:33:03 Heh, Skype. Aug 20 06:33:14 I was about to take lend money to not let this offer pass. Aug 20 06:33:19 at the morning Aug 20 06:33:31 My bank closes at 12PM Aug 20 06:33:31 :( Aug 20 06:33:42 no retailers for touchpads there? Aug 20 06:33:48 No.... Aug 20 06:33:56 is there a TouchPad/Enyo dropbox app? Aug 20 06:34:23 I'm trying to make Webos grow over here. Aug 20 06:34:39 Two DropBox apps, I think. Aug 20 06:35:35 I know of Dropboxify but that's phone specific Aug 20 06:35:48 Well, Dropboxify, then TapNote. Aug 20 06:36:05 Just some minutes for amazon to show Touchpad at 99$ Aug 20 06:36:10 Ah, sorry. Aug 20 06:36:11 I was going to make a Dropbox app for the TouchPad this weekend. :< Aug 20 06:36:19 And then this happened. Aug 20 06:36:33 it'll be in high demand Aug 20 06:36:37 Still can. Aug 20 06:36:53 considering there will be hundreds of thousands of new users soon Aug 20 06:37:06 travis do you have a link? Aug 20 06:37:28 http://www.amazon.com/HP-TouchPad-9-7-Inch-Tablet-Computer/dp/B0055D67HW/ref=sr_1_1?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1313822005&sr=1-1 Aug 20 06:37:46 Amazon is going to down their price at midnight Aug 20 06:37:58 I thought all the "sold by amazon" ones were sold out Aug 20 06:38:00 Is not midnight where at amazon is located yet. Aug 20 06:38:12 http://www.twitlonger.com/show/cgup57 - well damn! Aug 20 06:38:13 dwc-: nah Aug 20 06:38:29 And about WebOS new users Aug 20 06:38:29 Frank Zammetti was working on an Enyo book Aug 20 06:38:33 They're already going Aug 20 06:38:35 in Aug 20 06:38:36 why a few minutes... should be 25 Aug 20 06:38:45 if it's on seattle amazon time Aug 20 06:38:46 A few minutes Aug 20 06:38:48 lol Aug 20 06:39:18 25 minutes is like idk but is just fast Aug 20 06:39:22 wonder if pre2 will drop price on amazon Aug 20 06:39:29 I don't think so. Aug 20 06:39:32 is just only for Touchpad. Aug 20 06:39:33 does amazon have unlocked pre2s fulfilled by amazon? Aug 20 06:40:10 Sickdeals web collapse like 15 minutes ago Aug 20 06:40:11 lol Aug 20 06:40:42 "Does the HP TouchPad tablet qualify for the Price Match policy? Aug 20 06:40:43 No. The HP TouchPad is on clearance and we will no longer be selling the units so we will not offer any price matches. We do offer a 60-day return/exchange policy for this product. Aug 20 06:40:49 (worstbuy) Aug 20 06:41:15 looool Aug 20 06:41:17 http://walmartstores.com/10563.aspx Aug 20 06:41:31 it will be interesting to see if i can convince them Aug 20 06:43:00 it says we dont honor Aug 20 06:43:04 Going out of business or closeout prices Aug 20 06:43:05 lol Aug 20 06:43:51 yeah, but that's for a retailer selling their stock Aug 20 06:44:04 this is for the manufacturer lowering their price Aug 20 06:44:05 worth a shot any how Aug 20 06:44:49 when a manufacturer lowers their price, a reseller beneifts from the same price cut Aug 20 06:45:03 (usually) Aug 20 06:45:08 come on verify that order! :( Aug 20 06:45:10 yep. Aug 20 06:45:17 Hey Aug 20 06:45:28 dtzWill: Did you use coupons or military? Aug 20 06:45:58 uhhh some epp code Aug 20 06:46:02 don't remember which, tbh :/ Aug 20 06:46:11 epp + save15hp? :) Aug 20 06:46:14 dtzWill: sorry but you will never get your Touchpad. Aug 20 06:46:15 worked for me Aug 20 06:46:16 ;) Aug 20 06:46:18 I used... the EPP code I'm legitimately allowed to use, not one I found on a random deal website ;) Aug 20 06:46:30 epp is legal for friends and family Aug 20 06:46:32 don't think so--think it rejected both coupons on the epp account Aug 20 06:46:45 umccullough: not all of them Aug 20 06:46:51 they said thru the phone that they will cancel all epp.. Aug 20 06:46:53 dwc-: jealous, and probably should have tried to use one of my affilliations :/ Aug 20 06:46:56 or military Aug 20 06:47:08 TravisAntonio: what? really? o_O :( Aug 20 06:47:13 i have a friend who works for HP anyway Aug 20 06:47:16 TravisAntonio: how else do you get it? :/ Aug 20 06:47:17 I think travis is jealous for real Aug 20 06:47:22 HAHAHAHHAHA Aug 20 06:47:25 lol Aug 20 06:47:31 yes I'm jealous Aug 20 06:47:31 unless they ship to dominican republic ;) Aug 20 06:47:33 i think the coupon will just un work if anything Aug 20 06:47:33 I want a Touchpad Aug 20 06:47:37 not Aug 20 06:47:44 TravisAntonio: where'd you hear that? Aug 20 06:47:45 But I heard in the sickdeals Aug 20 06:47:48 So, I could test touch-to-share, but that technilogy is probably going away. Aug 20 06:47:50 That they will cancel all military orders Aug 20 06:48:13 the faq on hp.com said sharing the epp discount with "anyone" was perfectly fine Aug 20 06:48:14 Is like in the page 280 Aug 20 06:48:14 lol Aug 20 06:48:30 encouraged.. Aug 20 06:48:45 If you used the 2727 to register at HP Aug 20 06:48:51 Those will never get their touchpad Aug 20 06:48:56 Who can use this tool to share HP with their friends and family? Aug 20 06:48:57 Any HP or EDS employee, retiree or contingent worker in the United States. Aug 20 06:48:57 heh, trolls Aug 20 06:49:05 the wiki here http://slickdeals.net/forums/showthread.php?t=3220862 says "nd even fi you are on a verification stage, you will still get it, thats straight from a actual sales rep, not just assistance. Live chat said they can't give information on sales, and they are giving out conflicting information." Aug 20 06:49:09 * dtzWill hopefule Aug 20 06:49:10 that would mean... Aug 20 06:49:16 if you shared it and weren't allowed to Aug 20 06:49:23 that you would be inv iolation (not that I think they'll bother) Aug 20 06:49:31 the sales rep i spoke to said it looked like my orders were all set Aug 20 06:49:45 lol Aug 20 06:49:51 I WANT MY TOUCHPAD!!!!!! Aug 20 06:49:52 Damn.. Aug 20 06:50:04 If I buy it tomorrow it will be here like the friday Aug 20 06:50:07 or saturday :-/ Aug 20 06:50:18 i got free touchpad but its not here yet :) Aug 20 06:50:19 heh: https://twitter.com/#!/Apothekerrazy Aug 20 06:50:48 rwhitby: I want to kill him... Aug 20 06:52:33 think i uised ep4297, idk Aug 20 06:52:54 http://www.wpcentral.com/microsoft-extending-hand-webos-developers Aug 20 06:53:05 THAT"S A TRAP!!! Aug 20 06:53:23 ? Aug 20 06:53:34 It's a tarp Aug 20 06:53:44 LOL Aug 20 06:53:48 Not really Aug 20 06:53:56 but sounds alike Aug 20 06:54:09 Because they want WebOS dev to dev on WP7 Aug 20 06:54:30 of course they do Aug 20 06:55:08 Microsoft: Now 75% less sleazy than under Bill! Aug 20 06:55:09 They sure do need it. Aug 20 06:55:18 Haha Aug 20 06:56:30 What stores do you think guys at USA in NJ will have the touchpad at lowered price? Aug 20 06:56:55 officedepot locations in NJ have htem ins tock and their website had a banner showing lowered prices so its possible the stores will lower it tomorrow Aug 20 06:57:43 OfficeDepot Aug 20 06:57:56 I will try to tell my Aunt... If I can't get one tomorrow. Aug 20 06:57:58 why NJ? hopping a flight to newardk international? Aug 20 06:58:11 guys im worried about webos Aug 20 06:58:15 is the touchpad really gone? Aug 20 06:58:15 try staples too... on the off chance they have any left still Aug 20 06:58:18 should i still get one? Aug 20 06:58:36 if they get really cheap could i get a touchpad and perhaps it will be a good open source device for putting other stuff on? Aug 20 06:58:44 NOoo Aug 20 06:58:44 any good insights? Aug 20 06:58:49 We'll still be here hacking on it Aug 20 06:58:56 dwc- My Aunt lives in NJ lol Aug 20 06:59:18 webOS LIVES!!! Aug 20 06:59:21 so it seems like you guys might think if i can get a really cheap touchpad I should nab it. Aug 20 06:59:25 em - get one if you want to use the current version of webOS, with the current apps Aug 20 06:59:41 em: WebOS is alive, and Touchpad is getting a bigger Resurrection Aug 20 06:59:47 After HP killed it Aug 20 06:59:48 or if YOU want to make it better :) Aug 20 06:59:51 DougReeder: and dont get one if... .. ? Aug 20 07:00:09 you want vendor support Aug 20 07:00:10 em - don't buy expecting to run something else on it. Aug 20 07:00:18 you think webos will die and you dont' want anything else Aug 20 07:00:20 still surf the web and listen to music and watch movies etc etc Aug 20 07:00:48 if HP is going to kill the touchpad why don't they just tell us how to unlock it so we can put anything on it? Aug 20 07:00:59 it is pretty unlocked Aug 20 07:01:07 Im sure webos is fine. It sounds like it's a Linux distro practicaly. Aug 20 07:01:28 the "putting anything on it" requires more info about the hardware, which disclosing too much information might run afoul of NDAs, etc. Aug 20 07:01:30 its open already Aug 20 07:01:35 No, HP owns key pieces ow webOS Aug 20 07:01:38 HOLD ON GUYS! Aug 20 07:01:45 STOP Aug 20 07:01:47 hammertime Aug 20 07:01:55 the war? Aug 20 07:01:59 Something interesting... Aug 20 07:02:00 the presses! Aug 20 07:02:08 https://twitter.com/#!/trsohmers/status/104788233908531200 Aug 20 07:02:10 LOL Aug 20 07:02:16 .. in the name of Love? Aug 20 07:02:24 That is I Aug 20 07:02:39 Android on Touchpad soon.. Aug 20 07:02:44 Oh, wait, my heart is already broken. Aug 20 07:02:46 I don't really like android... Aug 20 07:02:53 Sorry Travis, but a lot of people do Aug 20 07:03:01 I know lol Aug 20 07:03:07 But that's my personal opinion Aug 20 07:03:09 I like webOS too… but this is just another option Aug 20 07:03:16 ;) Aug 20 07:03:28 I will use Windows 7 on my Touchpad Aug 20 07:03:30 so ;) Aug 20 07:03:33 ( $time ) == ( 03:00:41 ) Aug 20 07:03:39 amazon should be live according to rumors Aug 20 07:03:46 yEP Aug 20 07:03:47 TravisAntonio: confirmed Aug 20 07:04:13 im trying this mod if it will install honeycomb on my touchpad Aug 20 07:04:19 If you get a touchpad it needs to come with android or you could put android on it later? Aug 20 07:05:06 it will not come with android Aug 20 07:05:06 linuxuz3r: Confirmed? ugh? lol I'm like watching the clouds when they're not any clouds in the sky Aug 20 07:05:06 not live here Aug 20 07:05:07 lol Aug 20 07:05:51 lol Aug 20 07:06:33 no 1c veers on amazon either Aug 20 07:06:38 I didn't mean to mention android if that's a sensitive topic here. Aug 20 07:06:53 Im not here to inflame you guys or make light of a sensitive time. Aug 20 07:06:55 any glimpse users in here Aug 20 07:07:00 em: lol There's nothing to worry saying the world Android. Aug 20 07:07:05 word* Aug 20 07:07:25 slickdeals is dead again :-/ Aug 20 07:07:28 yeah this is a monotheistic channel so all is free Aug 20 07:07:55 Linuxuz3r: what did you mean before, by confirmed? Aug 20 07:08:05 oh Aug 20 07:08:18 brb Aug 20 07:08:34 There is a super massive black hole in the center of our galaxy Aug 20 07:09:00 did you guys see that Aug 20 07:09:05 linuxuz3r: did you know I saw a pig flying? ramdon things :P Aug 20 07:09:07 no Aug 20 07:09:43 we're all going to die Aug 20 07:10:21 NO wait Aug 20 07:10:30 Someone said that hole is quiet Aug 20 07:10:34 Is not going to get big... Aug 20 07:11:00 * DougReeder waves goodnight. Aug 20 07:11:05 jk Aug 20 07:11:05 And anyways that's old news :p Aug 20 07:11:23 i dont know if android is going to be available in the hardware of touchpad Aug 20 07:11:32 hey I got one? sam's club. Aug 20 07:11:33 but im not kidding about the black hole Aug 20 07:11:44 I know linux lol Aug 20 07:11:54 Well black hole is off-topic Aug 20 07:12:00 127 w shipping yay Aug 20 07:12:08 supermassive blackhole. good track Aug 20 07:12:10 Let's talk about that Android coming to invade the Touchpad Aug 20 07:12:23 * dwc- <3 muse Aug 20 07:13:07 Remember kids Aug 20 07:13:15 I'm the original kid developer Aug 20 07:13:30 only you can prevent forest fires? Aug 20 07:13:57 LOL Aug 20 07:14:22 Original kid developer? lawl Aug 20 07:14:26 kesne: how old are you? Aug 20 07:14:47 trsohmers: Now, or when I started? Aug 20 07:14:52 When you started Aug 20 07:14:58 and now, I guess Aug 20 07:14:59 lol Aug 20 07:15:26 he's lived over 10% of his life with webOS Aug 20 07:15:44 Damn... price hasn't changed on Amazon :-/ Aug 20 07:16:11 innocence lost? ;) Aug 20 07:16:15 hasn't changed for non-epp on hp.com either Aug 20 07:16:18 rwhitby: :P Aug 20 07:16:24 too many hours bugging us in #webos Aug 20 07:16:30 trsohmers: 15 when I started, 17 now Aug 20 07:16:36 learning how to google before asking stupid questions :) Aug 20 07:16:39 oil: You can only blame yourself. Aug 20 07:16:49 kene? and you call yourself kid dev? Aug 20 07:16:50 lol Aug 20 07:16:53 Kense* Aug 20 07:16:57 Kesne* Aug 20 07:17:00 -.- Aug 20 07:17:03 lol Aug 20 07:17:06 Haha Aug 20 07:17:08 The original Aug 20 07:17:09 Meaning Aug 20 07:17:20 I was the first one under 18 Aug 20 07:17:28 the original maybe, but not as good as the other ones Aug 20 07:17:33 then all these other kids took his spotlight Aug 20 07:17:34 lol Aug 20 07:17:57 oil: younger, better, stronger. Aug 20 07:18:01 lol Aug 20 07:18:14 LOL! Aug 20 07:18:53 harder better faster? Aug 20 07:18:53 Hey man Aug 20 07:19:06 rwhitby: I'm one of the most successful app developers of webOS Aug 20 07:19:34 no, that's kense Aug 20 07:19:51 * rrix snorts Aug 20 07:19:52 Lol. Aug 20 07:19:56 idk, wi has made quite a bit of coin Aug 20 07:20:07 oil: two boats and all Aug 20 07:20:15 hp cancles devices and people started sending us more money Aug 20 07:20:28 Weird strategy Aug 20 07:20:29 lol Aug 20 07:20:45 lol Aug 20 07:20:47 up to $5500 last I checked Aug 20 07:20:55 5500? Aug 20 07:20:57 in 2 or so days? Aug 20 07:20:57 noooo Aug 20 07:21:07 I might be impressed if I knew what he'd done Aug 20 07:21:08 do you guys make webos apps? Aug 20 07:21:17 yeah Aug 20 07:21:23 rwhitby: When HP sends me the app payment for August, I fully plan on donating some cash. Aug 20 07:21:32 em: Well This is supposed to be WebOS dev channel, so yes :P Aug 20 07:21:45 TravisAntonio: http://t.co/DLJxbS0 - feel free to donate Aug 20 07:21:56 Well Aug 20 07:21:59 I know Rod Aug 20 07:22:05 oil's boat needs painting again Aug 20 07:22:25 lol Aug 20 07:22:33 what, scratched the crap out of it playing bumper-boats? Aug 20 07:22:34 But I'm going to buy a Touchpad Tomorrow and I don't have money, so I'm going to find out how... :P Aug 20 07:23:00 TravisAntonio: 1) do something awesome. 2) ask folks to donate. 3) profit. Aug 20 07:23:02 And the first thing I will buy from the APP catalog is your documentation Aug 20 07:23:26 rwhitby: i bet if we setup a cafepress site with our logo and "webos forever" on a shirt we'd do ok Aug 20 07:23:43 lol Aug 20 07:24:08 Well you should know Rod, I will make Windows for the Touchpad also, but i'm not going to make Windows xp for the Pre due to the lower screen, and I planned to make Windows 7 also but due to licenses things is not possible. Aug 20 07:24:29 TravisAntonio: oh, the thing you do is better if it's legal Aug 20 07:24:49 oil: wanna whip up the graphics? Aug 20 07:24:52 Windows XP SP2 is Discontinued so I can port Qemu to Touchpad and use my license. Aug 20 07:24:58 lol, it was more of a joke Aug 20 07:25:04 ... whyyyy Aug 20 07:25:08 Would anyone want to do that Aug 20 07:25:12 I'm sorry but Aug 20 07:25:13 why Aug 20 07:25:20 rrix? Aug 20 07:25:21 That just why Aug 20 07:25:25 Windows XP? Aug 20 07:25:31 http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=2905436 Aug 20 07:25:34 Then go with Android Aug 20 07:25:35 lol Aug 20 07:25:39 Again, why? :) Aug 20 07:25:45 webos is a great platform Aug 20 07:25:50 rwhitby: i dont know how big to make it either, and maybe thats a job for templarian? Aug 20 07:25:52 Why shouldn't we try to keep it going? Aug 20 07:25:59 I have a big list of Official projects Aug 20 07:25:59 Unless you're trying to pay rent Aug 20 07:26:06 but at my free time I will do homebrews Aug 20 07:26:10 that's why rrix Aug 20 07:26:11 lol Aug 20 07:26:33 But why wouldn't you focus on doing webos homebrew Aug 20 07:26:49 Because I have planned big games Aug 20 07:26:59 for WebOS Aug 20 07:26:59 just because he wants to hack windows onto it doesn't mean you have to use it :) Aug 20 07:27:09 @TravisAntonio: when did Windows < 8 become ARM compatible? Aug 20 07:27:11 oil: well said Aug 20 07:27:24 I SAID: Qemu PORT! Aug 20 07:27:25 -.- Aug 20 07:27:26 I'm not saying he shouldn't do it, it just doesn't make sense at all to me :) Aug 20 07:27:32 no need to yell. Aug 20 07:27:48 rrix: lol okay Aug 20 07:27:48 :D Aug 20 07:28:22 Toucan: Qemu Port will be used for. Aug 20 07:28:31 I can't imagine that being very performant Aug 20 07:28:45 Anything I'd want to run on windows wouldn't perform too well on QEMU Aug 20 07:28:54 on a processor without kqemu support Aug 20 07:29:11 Then what you request? Aug 20 07:29:12 Bosch? Aug 20 07:29:21 I don't want to die loading it Aug 20 07:29:22 lol Aug 20 07:29:30 Bochs* Aug 20 07:29:44 Bochs is really SLOW... Aug 20 07:30:51 anyone use Glimpse? Aug 20 07:31:06 will the cheap touchpad be available in europe as well? Aug 20 07:31:15 did anyone ever see this -- http://boycottboa.org ? Aug 20 07:31:21 oops sorry wrong link Aug 20 07:31:23 and can anyone view the screenshots full screen on the tp app cat? Aug 20 07:31:27 pastefail Aug 20 07:31:28 ([q]Android on Touchpad) Views: 21,906 (Today) Aug 20 07:31:31 kesne: Sorry for the late reply… but yea, I'm 15 now Aug 20 07:31:43 Travis, what? Aug 20 07:31:52 trsohmers: you are 15? me too Aug 20 07:31:54 At XDA DEV forums... Aug 20 07:31:56 trsohmers: Yeah, well that's why there's "original" Aug 20 07:31:58 they posted it today Aug 20 07:32:03 And got too many visits.. Aug 20 07:32:19 but it's just a question Aug 20 07:32:21 Haha, not trying to degrade your status or anything lol Aug 20 07:32:24 link travis? Aug 20 07:32:28 Damn younguns. :) I remember when I was fifteen and PalmOSing lol Aug 20 07:32:30 kesne: camera seems a little.... slow.. Aug 20 07:32:37 Not my fault Aug 20 07:32:47 http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1224540 Aug 20 07:32:55 @trsohmers do you know Kurt at MIT ISN? Aug 20 07:33:01 PatrickC_TP: Is for erryone Aug 20 07:33:05 PatrickC_TP: It's webOS Aug 20 07:33:13 Toucan: Yea Aug 20 07:33:20 ah Aug 20 07:33:20 Toucan: Kurt Keville Aug 20 07:33:37 @trsohmers yes, that would be him. He's a cool guy Aug 20 07:33:40 I have a Palm m505 :) Aug 20 07:33:41 rrix: I remember zilog z80 assembler and sinclair zx81 ram card mods when I was fifteen. Aug 20 07:33:52 Toucan: How do you know him? Aug 20 07:33:55 And it's overclocked :d Aug 20 07:33:55 :D Aug 20 07:34:50 wow... the pre2 seems sooooo small after using the tp :-P Aug 20 07:35:28 Patrickc_TP: lol. Aug 20 07:35:53 rwhitby: I did some z80 before PalmOS, almost scared me off :) Aug 20 07:35:58 TI84 Aug 20 07:36:08 PatrickC_TP: Go use a Veer and it will feel big again. Aug 20 07:36:15 lol Aug 20 07:36:15 Assembly is scary for 13 year olds :( Aug 20 07:36:29 PatrickC_TP: I felt the same way for a while, "holy crap so small and cute!" Aug 20 07:36:56 Is rrix 13? Aug 20 07:37:09 I wonder who is behind the apothekerrazy account Aug 20 07:37:27 rrix: lol.. I hope I get used to it Aug 20 07:37:51 rwhitby: He's dead and before he die, Apple made a Clon to control everything Aug 20 07:37:54 lol Aug 20 07:38:17 rwhitby: the name says it, he's on drugs Aug 20 07:38:17 TravisAntonio: Seriously, Windows on the TouchPad? Aug 20 07:38:32 madnificent: hahaha Aug 20 07:38:37 trsohmers: yeah :) Aug 20 07:38:49 What, QEMU? Aug 20 07:38:53 Otherwise, it is impossible Aug 20 07:38:54 well Aug 20 07:38:58 trsohmers: is already made on the Pre with Dosbox, why not just do it with Qemu on the Touchpad ;) Aug 20 07:39:01 highly improbable to get it working Aug 20 07:39:05 madnificent: there are a number of folks who do such accounts, I'm just wondering which one of them is behind that one - it's not as funny as most of them Aug 20 07:39:10 QEMU would be SO slow Aug 20 07:39:10 TravisAntonio: I hope you get a tp tomorrow Aug 20 07:39:16 Better luck using bochs or something Aug 20 07:39:34 bochs is slower than qemu :-/ Aug 20 07:39:36 * madnificent still feels like the hp announcements have been some sick joke Aug 20 07:39:40 from my experience.. Aug 20 07:39:47 is there a webos emulator? Aug 20 07:39:52 or simulator? Aug 20 07:39:56 yes Aug 20 07:40:02 jrabbit: yes! Aug 20 07:40:06 developer.palm.com Aug 20 07:40:10 kesne: I'm 19 Aug 20 07:40:13 PatrickC_TP: Thanks :) Aug 20 07:40:13 thanks Aug 20 07:40:14 I was 13 way back when Aug 20 07:40:29 Eventually found the OnBoardC PalmOS project and did somework in/on that Aug 20 07:40:35 Who is the person most old here? Aug 20 07:40:37 oh cool its a virtual box image Aug 20 07:40:44 I mean age Aug 20 07:40:44 lol Aug 20 07:41:02 * jrabbit just wants to poke around at the apps Aug 20 07:41:50 http://www.samsclub.com/sams/shop/product.jsp?productId=prod4590004&dblclick=true&pid=_DoubleClick_Affiliates Aug 20 07:41:52 99? Aug 20 07:42:01 Xuzz Aug 20 07:42:02 Yes Aug 20 07:42:40 any idea where to find them in europe? Aug 20 07:42:52 sold out. :( Aug 20 07:43:04 Yes Aug 20 07:43:08 Payting extra shipping Aug 20 07:43:11 Paying* Aug 20 07:43:12 :P Aug 20 07:43:33 Let them show on ebay next week. Aug 20 07:43:35 If someone gives me $150, I will buy and ship them a 16gb tp Aug 20 07:43:57 I WANT ONE SO BADLY <3 Aug 20 07:44:00 you should do that with $5 touchstones too =] Aug 20 07:44:25 dwc-: seriously, 5$ for a touchstone? Aug 20 07:44:38 Want me to buy someone one? Aug 20 07:44:42 I have amazon prime Aug 20 07:44:54 madnificent: all the freaking time Aug 20 07:45:14 5 dollar what? Aug 20 07:45:14 huh? prime still get the 99 deal? Aug 20 07:45:30 touchstones (for phones) Aug 20 07:45:40 Seriously, wher? Aug 20 07:45:43 where? Aug 20 07:45:46 verizonwireless Aug 20 07:45:47 Amazon Aug 20 07:45:56 * rrix runs to go grab one Aug 20 07:45:57 it's been that way for months Aug 20 07:46:01 That's the one thing my pre2 misses Aug 20 07:46:05 Oh wait Aug 20 07:46:07 I remember the past tuesday an Employee from HP told me the next: Hey Travis, My name is xxxxxx and I work for HP, I want to donate you a HP Touchpad for your cause and blablabla, then he dissappeared after Leo said what he said -.- Aug 20 07:46:09 http://www.verizonwireless.com/b2c/store/accessory?action=accessoryDetails&archetypeId=11901&accessoryId=44727 Aug 20 07:46:09 seriously? How did I miss that? Aug 20 07:46:19 Amazon is $9 Aug 20 07:46:30 $4.97+tax shipped Aug 20 07:46:37 bloody hell nice Aug 20 07:46:47 I hear those europeans can't get them for less than like 30euros Aug 20 07:46:51 They were like 30$ on VZW when i got my pre2 Aug 20 07:46:54 can you buy it in store? Aug 20 07:46:59 I haven't taste a Touchstone yet :( Aug 20 07:47:04 I got mine free :) Aug 20 07:47:09 * rrix grabs two Aug 20 07:47:10 never tried, jrabbit... they ship them free, why would I bother ;) Aug 20 07:47:12 ah only the touchstone eh.. Aug 20 07:47:44 another $5 if you want the US ac adapter and microusb Aug 20 07:47:53 LOL Aug 20 07:47:56 batteries for 3$ Aug 20 07:48:15 lol Aug 20 07:48:15 wait, what? Aug 20 07:48:22 hmm? Aug 20 07:48:48 rrix: vzw? Aug 20 07:49:01 Amazon Aug 20 07:49:04 http://www.amazon.com/Palm-Standard-Battery-Pixi-Pre/dp/B002CMITYI/ref=sr_1_20?ie=UTF8&qid=1313826361&sr=8-20 Aug 20 07:49:19 oh. those have been $3+shipping from a hadnful of places fo rawhile Aug 20 07:49:31 I haven't noticed ANY of this Aug 20 07:49:37 * dwc- hasn't bothered to buy a second battery yet, but should Aug 20 07:49:39 Does that battery work on pre2? It's not listed Aug 20 07:49:50 o_o Aug 20 07:50:02 pre2 uses same batteries as pre1 ... and the centro... Aug 20 07:50:13 That's really cheap Aug 20 07:50:16 does the touchstone work with the touchpad? Aug 20 07:50:34 dwc-: the centro too? wow, huh. Aug 20 07:50:36 cool Aug 20 07:52:57 damned connection Aug 20 07:53:12 the touchstone lists for 34 on amazon.fr Aug 20 07:53:59 madnificent: It's $8 here Aug 20 07:54:03 But I also have Prime Aug 20 07:54:13 it's $4.97+tax at vzw free shipping Aug 20 07:54:28 Prime is two-day shipping though Aug 20 07:54:36 it's 8 on amazon us w/o prime here Aug 20 07:54:58 Well, you don't get two-day shipping then! Aug 20 07:55:22 Well, I haven't signed in yet ;) Aug 20 07:55:35 what bullcrap, why do way pay the fivefold? Aug 20 07:55:36 Nobody like you, rrix Aug 20 07:55:42 I get that a lot Aug 20 07:56:08 OMG.... I feel like i'm not going a get a Touchpad tomorrow :( Aug 20 07:56:14 officedepot is live Aug 20 07:56:14 $150 Aug 20 07:56:36 got 1 as a backup incase HP lets me down Aug 20 07:56:43 http://www.officedepot.com/a/products/278394/HP-TouchPad-Tablet-32GB/ Aug 20 07:56:43 lol Aug 20 07:56:52 http://www.officedepot.com/a/products/278394/HP-TouchPad-Tablet-32GB/http://www.officedepot.com/a/products/278394/HP-TouchPad-Tablet-32GB/ Aug 20 07:56:56 They already lowered the price Aug 20 07:56:57 lol Aug 20 07:57:23 akanster: Don't complain on twitter, go make awesome apps *ducks* Aug 20 07:57:41 Twitter what? Aug 20 07:57:44 I don't have Aug 20 07:57:45 Twitter Aug 20 07:57:46 Facebook Aug 20 07:57:49 Etc... Aug 20 07:57:52 ;) Aug 20 07:57:56 I ... wasn't talking to you :) Aug 20 07:58:00 lol Aug 20 07:58:02 Oh Damn Aug 20 07:58:03 hahahahahahaha Aug 20 07:58:13 It was like a palmface Aug 20 07:58:16 :P Aug 20 07:58:58 shipping from the us is killing the cost Aug 20 07:59:27 Ugh? Aug 20 08:05:38 * rrix ponders how to make this service work properly Aug 20 08:06:04 * rrix is tempted to write a complete Kolab synergy connector, eventually Aug 20 08:09:10 rrix: Xolab? Aug 20 08:09:14 rrix: Kolab? Aug 20 08:09:26 http://kolab.org Aug 20 08:11:31 Well I made a decision I'll tell my uncle to go to Office Depot at NJ. Aug 20 08:11:58 Sorry My aunt lol Aug 20 08:12:02 WHATEVEr -.- Aug 20 08:12:06 TOUCHPAD! Aug 20 08:12:09 HERE YOU GO Aug 20 08:17:16 lol rrix Aug 20 08:20:34 dang Aug 20 08:20:46 This is dead :( Aug 20 08:20:59 damn, oil Aug 20 08:21:06 ? Aug 20 08:21:07 i may pick up a new 32gb for that price Aug 20 08:21:12 that's f'in crazy Aug 20 08:21:23 akanster: Go do something awesome :) Aug 20 08:22:55 why don't you order it online and ship it to them? Aug 20 08:23:10 god, I can't even read the slickdeals posts fast enough. I click next and there's 3 more pages Aug 20 08:24:00 dwc-: i know right! Aug 20 08:25:21 how can it be that cheap in Office Depot? Aug 20 08:25:44 for 150 dollars, I'd get one. for 150 euros, I doubt it Aug 20 08:26:36 I would Aug 20 08:29:07 goz2: i'm short on cash, i'd find it to be worth it though :) Aug 20 08:31:36 Printeable coupons for those who are going to buy tomorrow at Office Depot ;) http://printable-coupons.blogspot.com/2006/02/office-depot-coupons.html Aug 20 08:35:11 TravisAntonio: thanks! :) Aug 20 08:39:01 HattCzech: You're welcome. Aug 20 08:39:18 now will i actually be able to pick it up tomorrow is the question Aug 20 08:39:27 LOL. Aug 20 08:39:39 I hope at NJ does not go OOS Aug 20 08:40:43 3 hours ago all the office depots in my area had them in stock Aug 20 08:40:47 now they are all OOS Aug 20 08:41:00 either something is screwy, or HP is going to make 100 million tomorrow Aug 20 08:41:00 :-/ Aug 20 08:41:41 lol Aug 20 08:42:03 Bad hopes :-/ Aug 20 08:45:03 1 million touchpads sold today? doubt it Aug 20 08:45:09 OMG I swear there are stock tomorrow at NJ, North Bergen... Aug 20 08:45:25 Could it be... dwc- Aug 20 08:48:50 hmmm, now the question is... how do i return mine? Aug 20 08:49:06 or can i just get a price match from my cc company? Aug 20 08:52:30 ugh! Aug 20 08:52:50 how does it sell out so fast :[ Aug 20 08:55:13 K Aug 20 08:55:15 Enyo scrollers Aug 20 08:55:19 They hate me Aug 20 08:55:20 They must Aug 20 08:55:57 VirtualList doesn't work, Scroller doesn't work, nothing Aug 20 09:01:04 I guess none of the shops that are participating in this clearance thing ship outside the US, do they? Aug 20 09:01:12 eurostore still says £399. Aug 20 09:01:34 millenomi: i am pretty sure all the stores are going to drop prices Aug 20 09:01:35 if i can pick up more than one, i'll be happy to ship it to someone Aug 20 09:01:55 i just dont know when Aug 20 09:02:15 hot darn Aug 20 09:02:19 I'm moving to the US next month Aug 20 09:02:24 but but but Aug 20 09:02:26 argh too late. Aug 20 09:03:02 ship to your soon-to-be-address? Aug 20 09:03:19 I still don't have one >_< Aug 20 09:03:27 or in 1 week buy them off ebay for 50$ more :P Aug 20 09:03:29 will have it soon, but not soon enough. Aug 20 09:03:33 lol Aug 20 09:03:35 yeah Aug 20 09:03:39 sad Aug 20 09:03:48 pretty much what everyone is doing, argh! Aug 20 09:05:04 uh Aug 20 09:05:16 is there something idk, bestbuy just sold at @ 399.99$ Aug 20 09:05:27 out*, but it was in stock a min ago Aug 20 09:07:31 i'll try to find the silver lining in this... Aug 20 09:07:36 so if these are all sold at this price Aug 20 09:07:57 well Aug 20 09:08:01 lots of new webOS users Aug 20 09:08:02 and another manufacturer steps in within the next 6 months Aug 20 09:08:02 yay? Aug 20 09:08:08 … Aug 20 09:08:11 webos might actually have a chance Aug 20 09:08:16 exactly :) Aug 20 09:08:31 it'll be the "wholesale" or "cheap" tablet Aug 20 09:08:35 but it's still a nice tabley Aug 20 09:08:37 tablet* Aug 20 09:08:53 Oh god Aug 20 09:08:57 think it honestly depends on the reaction / webos itself Aug 20 09:08:59 plov: bestbuy claims they're not selling any more Aug 20 09:09:00 then there will be millions... mua ha ha Aug 20 09:09:01 and hp following it up Aug 20 09:09:04 they may have taken them out of stock themselves Aug 20 09:09:05 I hate webOSbuzz Aug 20 09:09:35 if 6 months go by without hp taking advantage of all these new users.. it'll just be a cheap buy that's all Aug 20 09:09:50 i'll still be happy Aug 20 09:10:01 why? Aug 20 09:10:03 but like i said, i need to figure out how to get my money back on the one i bought Aug 20 09:10:11 i'll still have a nice tablet Aug 20 09:10:17 whered u buy it from? Aug 20 09:10:19 I'm going to kill that website Aug 20 09:10:25 ebay / datavis Aug 20 09:10:32 o Aug 20 09:10:36 makes it much trickier Aug 20 09:10:43 when $350 was a deal :) Aug 20 09:11:25 Such innocent times they were. Aug 20 09:11:32 hehehe true Aug 20 09:11:39 and to think... it was less than two weeks ago Aug 20 09:11:48 well Aug 20 09:11:51 The days of yore Aug 20 09:12:02 ye days of olde Aug 20 09:12:34 if the os actually turns out to be great, i and among many others giving webos a chance at 99$ will probably start developing on it for fun Aug 20 09:12:40 DIE Aug 20 09:12:42 which pretty much means webos has a chance Aug 20 09:12:46 That fateful day when Sire Leo of the HP clan doth decreed. Aug 20 09:13:03 plov: I'm developing for one strictly because i have an itch to scratch, no other reason. Aug 20 09:13:07 But that's always how I am Aug 20 09:13:11 webOS is dead Aug 20 09:13:13 get over it Aug 20 09:13:23 kesne: Yet we're all buying devices to hack on Aug 20 09:13:30 Still dead Aug 20 09:13:34 It's as dead as we make it. Aug 20 09:13:43 If I want to make my touchpad useful, I damn well will, HP or no HP. Aug 20 09:13:46 There will not be a new webos product Aug 20 09:13:58 mind you, that's just speculation Aug 20 09:14:05 it really depends.. look how fast theyre selling out... Aug 20 09:14:15 kesne: we're two days in to a period of uncertainty, calm the heck down Aug 20 09:14:18 hehehe, true Aug 20 09:14:24 rrix: I'm calm Aug 20 09:14:30 anyone get the $99 deal? Aug 20 09:14:31 We didn't see this a week ago, who knows where we'll be in another? Aug 20 09:14:33 rrix: I have no vested interest in webOS Aug 20 09:14:35 uncola: Yes Aug 20 09:14:35 I missed out.. it's all sold out Aug 20 09:14:40 (he's just a child, give him a break) ;) Aug 20 09:14:43 I should have idled on this channel :( Aug 20 09:14:48 uncola: there are stores with it still in stock Aug 20 09:14:49 Yup :) Aug 20 09:14:57 Fuck scrollers Aug 20 09:14:58 rrix: If they haven't gotten a webOS partner by now, it won't happen Aug 20 09:15:04 OH MY GOD Aug 20 09:15:06 i'm going to check my office depot in the morning Aug 20 09:15:09 8.30 AM COME COME!!! Aug 20 09:15:10 I'm going to check target and sams club maybe in the morning Aug 20 09:15:17 kesne: Again I ask, why should that stop people from making the hardware they purchased more useful? Aug 20 09:15:21 hopefully I won't get Amazon Aug 20 09:15:30 's "OH SORRY THIS IS NOT FOR YOUR COUNTRY" at checkout Aug 20 09:15:31 Oh, I'm not Aug 20 09:15:39 "you communist european you" Aug 20 09:15:42 "get over it" kinda says that to me. Aug 20 09:15:42 I was joking when I said "get over it" Aug 20 09:15:46 hahahahahah Aug 20 09:15:47 lol Aug 20 09:15:51 Joking doesnt work online :) Aug 20 09:15:54 Haha Aug 20 09:15:55 True enough Aug 20 09:16:00 But, given that it's me Aug 20 09:16:03 I'm never serious Aug 20 09:16:07 I don't know you very well yet :) Aug 20 09:16:09 But really Aug 20 09:16:12 g'night all Aug 20 09:16:15 Good night Aug 20 09:16:17 They say that they simply can't make money on webOS, and then tell someone to give it a try? Aug 20 09:16:20 i've been up, i think im going to brew a bunch of coffee and go on a refresh spree Aug 20 09:16:24 hopefully i can get one in the morning Aug 20 09:16:31 kesne: There's been a lot of stupid things said, yes. Aug 20 09:16:34 a lot of stupid things Aug 20 09:16:37 nITE Aug 20 09:16:40 But again, we're in day two. Aug 20 09:16:51 this is the webOSocalypse. Aug 20 09:16:52 rrix: That's one way to look at it Aug 20 09:17:07 DAMMIT! I will Die if this thing is not already bought at 10 AM! Aug 20 09:17:18 I mean, there's been no real major progression with webOS since february. Aug 20 09:17:20 um, probably not, TravisAntonio Aug 20 09:17:28 Why? :( Aug 20 09:17:35 millenomi: I've lived throw the Elopocolypse and the Nokians I know are all working on cool non-WP7 tech. Aug 20 09:17:51 rrix: you talk of it as if it were a thing of the past. Aug 20 09:17:59 I'm not Aug 20 09:18:05 rather than the announcement of a future occurrence. Aug 20 09:18:07 I'm just saying that nothing is done Aug 20 09:18:09 yet Aug 20 09:18:31 App sales went up Aug 20 09:18:33 wtf Aug 20 09:18:34 Ever, really. Look at BeOS, those poor Haiku bastards are still over there hacking on it :) Aug 20 09:18:45 I sold more yester than I had for a few days Aug 20 09:18:50 there's a difference between a project of love and any sort of relevance. Aug 20 09:18:54 Why did you say probably not Millenomi? Aug 20 09:18:54 I will sell more today than I have in about 5 days Aug 20 09:18:55 (btw: <3 BeOS and Haiku) Aug 20 09:18:59 I'm not saying we can or should do that, just providing viewpoints Aug 20 09:19:08 TravisAntonio: I don't think buying an item is directly connected to the state of your health :p Aug 20 09:19:09 Shades of grey. Aug 20 09:19:18 LOL Aug 20 09:19:19 unless it's a drug of some kind Aug 20 09:19:19 Shit looks bad, but I scored some nice hardware running an awesome OS tonight. Aug 20 09:19:24 And I want to make it better. Aug 20 09:19:28 amazon says only 2 left in stock but its at reg. price, i dont get that Aug 20 09:19:28 And so do others. Aug 20 09:19:30 Is just sarcams :P Aug 20 09:20:15 Office Depot online is OOS Aug 20 09:20:27 plov: no idea Aug 20 09:20:34 some people have walmart store receipts Aug 20 09:20:57 I hope there are 16GB Touchpad when my Aunt go at 9 :-/ Aug 20 09:21:08 Why am I even here anymore? Aug 20 09:21:16 I'm not a webOS dev anymore. Aug 20 09:21:19 yea, i think some are buying at full price to try to get the discount later , or just return it Aug 20 09:21:20 lol! Aug 20 09:21:20 teleportation failure, kesne? Aug 20 09:21:20 I develop services Aug 20 09:21:28 San Diego webOS Meetup tomorrow. Come for the free collector schwag. Stay for the Apotheker effigy ;-) Aug 20 09:21:31 haha Aug 20 09:21:36 One of the supported platforms just happens to be webOS Aug 20 09:21:58 Yesterday I literally dumped every single webOS plan I had. Aug 20 09:22:00 Though Aug 20 09:22:00 kesne: I'm not a webOS dev either — absolutely not since I [REDACTED] — but I thought it Had The Stuff. Aug 20 09:22:03 sad. Aug 20 09:22:15 I'm using phone gap Aug 20 09:22:21 so everything I make will still come to webOS Aug 20 09:22:23 you get webOS for free :) Aug 20 09:22:35 And I already have a tablet Aug 20 09:30:15 Forget this man! Aug 20 09:30:19 I'm outta here! Aug 20 09:30:22 Bye Aug 20 09:30:25 Oh I missed it. Aug 20 09:32:31 >:O hp please verify the order, kthx Aug 20 09:33:07 dwc-: where is it Aug 20 09:33:17 dwc-: where in san diego Aug 20 09:34:00 dunno, saw it on someone else's google+ Aug 20 09:34:05 http://www.meetup.com/San-Diego-webOS-Meetup/ might be it though Aug 20 09:36:05 ok Aug 20 09:36:29 i dont think touchpad prices are going to be 99usd tomorrow Aug 20 09:36:38 mabye i should just cancel hp order and buy from elsewhere? :/ Aug 20 09:36:43 * dtzWill gulp Aug 20 09:37:00 dtzWill: how much did you pay for it? Aug 20 09:37:38 $150 x3 Aug 20 09:37:49 nice the 16gb Aug 20 09:37:52 ? Aug 20 09:38:08 ordered at 10pm PDT :/ Aug 20 09:38:20 why cancel? Aug 20 09:38:21 linuxuz3r: ? the 16gb's are $100, no? Aug 20 09:38:39 where did you order it? Aug 20 09:38:45 hp.com Aug 20 09:39:56 who hollard Aug 20 09:40:10 how did you get it for 150? Aug 20 09:40:14 100$s for what now? Aug 20 09:40:48 * madnificent wants a cheap touchpad -_- Aug 20 09:41:00 http://slickdeals.net/forums/showthread.php?t=3220862 etc? Aug 20 09:41:23 darn it Aug 20 09:44:08 the eu will probably be too late Aug 20 09:45:05 You can buy it at waltmart or office depot Aug 20 09:45:14 well guys Aug 20 09:45:28 I have to talk to my aunt at 8:30 to tell her to go to office depot Aug 20 09:45:29 talk to you later Aug 20 09:45:32 good nite Aug 20 09:45:52 later Aug 20 09:54:18 so Aug 20 09:54:31 walmart prices just went live, literally i maybe was 5 minutes off by noticing, 99$ sold out Aug 20 09:54:39 150$ one still up for grabs though Aug 20 09:58:25 is HP going to kill their tablet line or something? Aug 20 09:58:32 goz2: yep Aug 20 09:58:41 see thisismynext.com Aug 20 09:59:55 amazon doesn't sell the 16gb tp Aug 20 10:00:03 it gets it from other online shops Aug 20 10:00:09 and it's only picking those that aren't part of the sale atm Aug 20 10:00:21 the 32gb is sold by them and still has the old price plus their discount Aug 20 10:02:43 just when I was thinking this would be a good tablet to buy Aug 20 10:05:06 Does it do what you want it to do? Aug 20 10:07:37 in that price range definately Aug 20 10:08:52 Go for it Aug 20 10:09:47 but how to get one to Finland Aug 20 10:12:35 swim Aug 20 10:13:36 sound like a plan Aug 20 10:16:43 definitely swim Aug 20 10:17:31 If they ever get around to reducing the price, I'll order a batch on my TouchPad. Aug 20 10:17:40 Hendikins, they did. 99$ Aug 20 10:17:45 sold out already though Aug 20 10:18:02 none of the store in us show the $99 price Aug 20 10:18:03 For the 32GB on Amazon. Aug 20 10:18:05 oh, "a batch on my TP" not "a batch of TPs" Aug 20 10:18:27 * Hendikins is non-US. At least Amazon actually ships where he is. Aug 20 10:19:31 it's pretty bleak Aug 20 10:19:32 in fact we will soon have a lot of potential customers to buy apps on the app catalog :) Aug 20 10:19:40 i just added a 32gb to my cart its 475 Aug 20 10:19:43 i literally saw the price change 5-10mins for walmart Aug 20 10:19:45 and it sold out Aug 20 10:19:47 lot more thant we ever had Aug 20 10:19:49 -t Aug 20 10:19:57 I believe it ended up on Trashdor. Aug 20 10:20:00 er, Trashdot. Aug 20 10:20:36 a few local stores have them well not so local Aug 20 10:21:17 i need to wait for staples to follow suit on the price drop Aug 20 10:21:33 audiofx: i think, a lot of people are buying it Aug 20 10:21:38 and doing the price match when it does drop Aug 20 10:21:53 there's no way it's selling out within a few minutes of a price drop or even before.. Aug 20 10:22:03 Amazon doesn't do that though. Aug 20 10:22:23 Although IIRC don't they pass it on if it drops before it ships? Aug 20 10:22:33 i just spoke with a store, the rep said they will honor it, so... let's see i guess Aug 20 10:22:44 if they don't i'm just going to return it Aug 20 10:23:24 http://shopping1.hp.com/is-bin/INTERSHOP.enfinity/WFS/WW-USSMBPublicStore-Site/en_US/-/USD/ViewProductDetail-Start?ProductUUID=KDEQ7EN5fXEAAAEvbdMr_eNP&CatalogCategoryID=dMgQ7habWagAAAEveclKiY4n&JumpTo=OfferList Aug 20 10:23:37 i am still waiting for europe Aug 20 10:23:59 thought it was sold out on hp Aug 20 10:27:07 when i went to the cart Aug 20 10:27:11 to checkout it went regular price Aug 20 10:27:20 same Aug 20 10:27:24 * Hendikins drums claws... come on Amazon. Aug 20 10:28:34 damn Aug 20 10:28:40 was allexcited :( Aug 20 10:29:09 shame walmarts so far Aug 20 10:29:39 cost me almost 50% of the 16gb price in gas and tolls to get to walmart heh Aug 20 10:31:30 yea but like Aug 20 10:31:45 there's no way they're going to make you pay the 400$ even if it goes through as 400$ Aug 20 10:32:10 leiru: me too, but I doubt we'll get it Aug 20 10:32:18 probably not but i dont want to waste time on the phone Aug 20 10:32:33 i tried pc richard for local pickup says no local stores have it grr Aug 20 10:32:34 theyre not open now anyawy :P Aug 20 10:32:38 or else i'd be calling them Aug 20 10:32:43 perhaps all of this was a joke of anonymous and lulsec, and tomorrow hp will say "hey dudes, sorry. we couldn't contact you. your pc's are still a go" Aug 20 10:33:13 audiofx: doubt you wil be able to get one like that Aug 20 10:33:23 you'd pretty either have to do it online or be first one at the store Aug 20 10:34:23 yea figured id try the buy online and pickup later since i dont ahve time to trek to the stores today Aug 20 10:34:44 craigslisters here looks like got some Aug 20 10:34:49 as they got 16gbs going for $225 Aug 20 10:34:54 im sure they picke dup the 99 deal Aug 20 10:35:12 yep Aug 20 10:35:19 i'm sure a lot of people are buying them to resell Aug 20 10:35:24 i offered the same $100 Aug 20 10:35:33 i wont pay more then that really :) Aug 20 10:36:11 well id take a 32gb at $150 Aug 20 10:36:20 i know staples across the street from me carries them Aug 20 10:36:26 i got on eon the $399 deal and returned it Aug 20 10:36:44 why didn't you try to price match? Aug 20 10:36:55 i returned it a few weeks ago Aug 20 10:37:00 i didnt know this was coming :) Aug 20 10:37:12 i wanted to ttry it but at even $399 for a 32gb it wasnt worth keeping to me Aug 20 10:37:25 i can just pop in there today and show them pc richard and walmart Aug 20 10:38:05 leiru: where did you find that hp link by the way? Aug 20 10:38:08 but they dont open early today and i need to work so by the time i get home they will be gone. oh well i will put it as i missed this deal Aug 20 10:38:12 if anyone knows how much it costs to send a touchstone to belgium from the us and who wants to ship me one, let me know. Aug 20 10:40:46 if I use the hp site and add the touchpad to my cart, it lists the old high price Aug 20 10:41:08 madnificent: yea Aug 20 10:41:48 looks like everyone hit this deal up for resale Aug 20 10:41:55 and they only ship to the us Aug 20 10:41:58 figure peple will buy it even at $200 double their money on ebay Aug 20 10:42:20 stupid speculants Aug 20 10:42:47 target doesnt even have a store pickup check to see if in stock Aug 20 10:43:01 it might've been smart to let devs get in first. with the idea that they may start devving for the platform (and they need devs) Aug 20 10:43:39 office depot has 16gb for $129.99 Aug 20 10:43:48 right now? Aug 20 10:43:55 went to check out then it revmoed it for insufficent stock :( Aug 20 10:44:03 said i can order one for future delivery Aug 20 10:44:03 tease Aug 20 10:44:08 yea it was Aug 20 10:44:13 $30 more i was still in Aug 20 10:44:23 you should've been on earlier Aug 20 10:44:31 i mean like even an hour ago Aug 20 10:44:42 i just woke up then :( Aug 20 10:44:45 because i saw the walmart price change, 150$ was still available Aug 20 10:44:59 but i'm not paying 50$ more for 16gb... Aug 20 10:45:03 staples will have to change their price Aug 20 10:45:11 so hopefully i ca either order online from work Aug 20 10:45:21 or there will be one in the staples by me here when i get home Aug 20 10:45:32 well i'm telling you, people are ordering them at reg. price to get the credit afterwards Aug 20 10:45:52 because there's no way they are selling out within minutes of a price change Aug 20 10:46:05 unless they're pre-emptively doing it so they can have more stock for their brick stores Aug 20 10:46:36 could be Aug 20 10:46:43 to atleast use it as a traffic drive Aug 20 10:47:24 i spoke to circuit city if it helps any, they said they will honor the price change when it happens if i order at full price right now Aug 20 10:47:45 i just know that a fight waiting to happen heh Aug 20 10:48:04 plov: that's the moment to buy their complete stock, hire a dev to port android to it, and sell it to people I don't like Aug 20 10:48:08 well a lot of stores have price protection Aug 20 10:48:23 just i dont know if they will say, it's a clearance sale so they won't Aug 20 10:48:27 im going to try my luck this evening at the local staples if not then it wasnt meant to be :P Aug 20 10:48:51 audiofx: if they don't, you can just return it Aug 20 10:48:51 clearance what is anyone going to do hold onto the inventory heh Aug 20 10:49:11 plov: yea thats true but ill try my luck local dont want to order online then wait to see Aug 20 10:51:00 there's still a lot of stores though that haven't changed prices yet so Aug 20 10:51:13 but yea, more luck if you're into ordering online Aug 20 10:51:27 just need to wokr today so i need to keep checking on my phone :P) Aug 20 10:51:56 yea Aug 20 10:52:05 like if you look at staples, they're sold out at the old price Aug 20 10:52:47 they show in stock at my local store Aug 20 10:52:51 anyone know where i could pick up more touchstones? :) Aug 20 10:53:06 (either variety really, but really would like at least 1 tp one..) Aug 20 10:53:23 i'm pretty much waiting for an hour more for sales departments to open up then i'm calling away! Aug 20 11:04:11 yay, people started porting Android to the TouchPad Aug 20 11:04:35 getting rid of what was supposed to be maintained Aug 20 11:04:47 putting something else on hardware thats in a dead end Aug 20 11:05:03 another defeat right there Aug 20 11:08:54 I'm not sure I blame them. Aug 20 11:09:15 WebOS in the eyes of the public is dead for one, and the hardware is a steal. Aug 20 11:18:05 yeah, of course Aug 20 11:18:12 I don't blame them either Aug 20 11:18:18 hi Aug 20 11:18:22 its just another defeat for us Aug 20 11:18:29 god damnit Aug 20 11:18:32 i'm so pissed Aug 20 11:18:36 hp blows Aug 20 11:19:07 it depends on how webos is tbh Aug 20 11:19:26 but so far i'm looking to keep webos on it Aug 20 11:19:49 except for all the bugs that will remain unfixed Aug 20 11:20:01 they're not axing the webos team Aug 20 11:20:02 visit the wrong webpage and you'll be screwed Aug 20 11:20:08 not 'yet' Aug 20 11:20:41 didn't they anticipate that people would be mad? Aug 20 11:21:06 and didnt they know that whats left of the community was the only thing keeping it alive? Aug 20 11:21:13 HP drops WebOS. What is the future ? Aug 20 11:23:50 but webos isn't dropped... Aug 20 11:24:46 not? Aug 20 11:26:15 No. HP stopped making devices, but there have been reports that they've been testing WebOS on devices by other manufacturers. Aug 20 11:27:09 This run of cheap WebOS devices I'm sure is a way to quickly build the WebOS ecosystem to attract developers. Once they have the developers, they have more leverage with other manufacturers. Aug 20 11:27:22 it's a risky move, so it will either bite them or work beautifully Aug 20 11:28:13 the ceo is a douchebag Aug 20 11:28:34 he doesn't care about the consumer market and wants to turn hp into another enterprize level ibm Aug 20 11:28:37 fuck him Aug 20 11:28:42 heh, i just called this one store Aug 20 11:28:44 for what it's worth...for those who couldn't get the $99 touchpad from hp before it sold out, they're 129 from office depot currently Aug 20 11:28:51 he's like i'm the 6th caller he got about the touchpad Aug 20 11:29:12 LarrySteeze: it's sold out there too, if you actually add the order and checkout Aug 20 11:29:46 i can't buy one out here Aug 20 11:29:55 and they'll all be gone when i get back stateside Aug 20 11:30:03 collecting dust as an antiquated relic... Aug 20 11:30:09 HAH! Aug 20 11:30:13 order to a relative? Aug 20 11:30:18 and have them mail you Aug 20 11:30:21 i don't have any family Aug 20 11:30:21 BJ's...$99 with $100 rebate O.o Aug 20 11:30:40 does this hp touchpad have a qwerty keyboard? Aug 20 11:30:45 or only a softkeyboard? Aug 20 11:30:51 shades: it's software keyboard Aug 20 11:31:28 ah fuck it then Aug 20 11:31:32 softkeboards suck Aug 20 11:31:44 no tactile response? NO THANKS! Aug 20 11:31:44 eh Aug 20 11:31:46 it's a tablet Aug 20 11:31:49 so? Aug 20 11:32:00 i had a tablet pc acer c200 circa 2003 Aug 20 11:32:03 it had a keyboard Aug 20 11:32:13 just like most of the mainstream tablets of today, it accepts a bluetooth keyboar Aug 20 11:32:17 d Aug 20 11:32:30 yeah well I don't want to have to carry around two separate things Aug 20 11:32:40 anyways Aug 20 11:32:47 and i don't want to have my word per minute cut to a fourth or 8th of what they are simply because of an inferior input mechanism Aug 20 11:32:56 I gotta go...just figured I'd spread the news about office depot, but apparently they're out too Aug 20 11:33:29 shades: sounds like you don't want a tablet then (versus a tablet pc) Aug 20 11:33:31 for a second i thought I was missing out on an awesome device with an awesome keyboard Aug 20 11:33:39 but my fears have been qualmed Aug 20 11:33:50 no, not really Aug 20 11:34:03 kind fo useless imho Aug 20 11:34:05 they're not for everyone Aug 20 11:34:37 yeah, they're clearly marketed toward average tv watching no input requred joe sixpack.... Aug 20 11:34:45 have a good one everyone! Aug 20 11:40:21 /w 42 Aug 20 11:40:24 ohai Aug 20 11:44:26 is HP also discontinuing the palm pre? Aug 20 11:44:32 fucking a i need to get mine replaced! Aug 20 11:44:40 mines borderline broken Aug 20 11:46:00 ;( Aug 20 11:48:36 are they not replacing them anymore either? Aug 20 11:51:27 shades: no one really knows right now Aug 20 11:51:35 Even HP employees probably don't know right now Aug 20 11:55:50 morn'n Aug 20 11:55:56 8 | Aug 20 11:56:53 any fire sales for TP on yet? Aug 20 11:57:08 Bmyers: Yup Aug 20 11:57:20 I got one for 100$ through HP sales last night Aug 20 11:57:20 linky? Aug 20 11:57:32 how? Aug 20 11:57:35 best buy may have them Aug 20 11:57:41 office depot, staples Aug 20 11:57:48 HP was sold out last night Aug 20 11:58:00 Rumour has it that best buy isn't selling their stalk though, so... Aug 20 11:58:05 amazon also may have some 32gb Aug 20 11:58:25 I'm planning to go to Fry's in a few hours to see what they have Aug 20 11:58:52 i miss frys. moved too far east.. Aug 20 11:58:56 heh Aug 20 11:59:09 I'm not looking forward to going in there after my return period has expired Aug 20 11:59:23 rrix: where? Aug 20 11:59:29 fry's Aug 20 11:59:34 ah Aug 20 11:59:56 ah well. if not I have a second tablet to hardware hack without fear Aug 20 12:00:06 ^^^ Aug 20 12:00:09 if they do refund it maybe i can reinvest in three of them for playtimes :) Aug 20 12:00:15 hehe Aug 20 12:00:24 ARG sprint doesn't even list palm pre as a device you can buy anymore Aug 20 12:00:27 Bloody hell it's 5am Aug 20 12:00:35 BB & amazon seems to still have them at full price Aug 20 12:00:54 nor webos as an operating system you can select Aug 20 12:01:10 lolsprint Aug 20 12:01:48 * rrix has this sinking feeling that the firesales me already be over unless you get lucky :\ Aug 20 12:01:59 why you loling at sprint? Aug 20 12:02:02 * rrix looks up when Fry's opens Aug 20 12:02:06 they're the only ones who have an unlimited data plan Aug 20 12:02:20 and don't fuck you over for using teathering Aug 20 12:02:21 * rrix clings to his unlimited plan on vzw Aug 20 12:02:33 rrix: yeah well they'll take it away if you teather Aug 20 12:03:08 shades: haven't yet :) Aug 20 12:03:14 I encrypt my traffic for a reason :) Aug 20 12:03:22 "what, I just use vpnc for everything" Aug 20 12:03:56 Honestly if they have a problem with that they can go fuck themselves; far as they're concerned I'm not violating any TOS Aug 20 12:04:11 you're not really fooling them, you can see that from their end where the traffic is coming from Aug 20 12:04:15 Opens in four hours Aug 20 12:04:28 shades: It's an encrypted tunnel Aug 20 12:04:31 have you actually read your tos? Aug 20 12:04:44 They see vpnc traffic, they don't see vpnc traffic originating from a tethered device Aug 20 12:04:48 you mean you connect to the vpn before you connect it to your laptop? Aug 20 12:05:22 My pre pipes most of its traffic through vpnc, as does everything I tether with Aug 20 12:05:32 The traffic is the same as far as they are concerned. Aug 20 12:05:48 do you connect to the VPN *befoer* or *after* you teather? Aug 20 12:06:25 After, because it's kinda hard to connect to a server you can't reach :) Aug 20 12:06:39 well if that's the case then they can see you're teathering... Aug 20 12:06:47 How do you figure? Aug 20 12:07:09 They see a vpnc connection open. They don't see any traffic that says "zomg tether" Aug 20 12:07:10 teathered traffic looks different on their end, it's a dead give away if you're doing it Aug 20 12:07:21 that's the same for any provider Aug 20 12:07:35 Would you guys suggest the 99 USD TouchPad? My friend is considering buying one for her mother Aug 20 12:07:50 As far as I can tell it seems like a pretty good option with that pricetag Aug 20 12:07:50 zomg: Does it do all of the things she wants it to right now? Aug 20 12:08:02 zomg, aren't they all sold out already? Aug 20 12:08:05 Browse the internet and play Angry Birds I was told Aug 20 12:08:10 phoque_uni: online perhaps Aug 20 12:08:11 zomg: Then yes Aug 20 12:08:22 99 USD from where? Aug 20 12:08:26 rrix: the first few packets might be a giveaway but after that it'll be passing through the vpn Aug 20 12:08:31 If you want more than it can offer right now I'd be saying no. Aug 20 12:08:34 but eitherway if they're actively monitoring it they'll know Aug 20 12:08:49 Bmyers: precentral says the discount should hit on saturday morning in the US Aug 20 12:08:49 and i'm sure there will be a push from management to get everyone off those grandfathered plans who is teathering Aug 20 12:08:55 because they want their extra 30$/mo or whateve rit is Aug 20 12:09:02 They can't do that without voiding my contract Aug 20 12:09:08 zomg, isn't it saturday morning already? Aug 20 12:09:11 :-D Aug 20 12:09:13 And if they do that, I find another carrier. Aug 20 12:09:16 rrix: They'll try tempting you into new plans Aug 20 12:09:18 Depends where you are located apparently Aug 20 12:09:22 phoque_uni: srsly. Aug 20 12:09:26 except the only othe rcarrier that has unlimited data is sprint Aug 20 12:09:26 I wouldn't know since I'm not in the states and it's already 3 PM here =) Aug 20 12:09:49 it's also 3pm here Aug 20 12:10:07 * rrix shrugs and goes back to enyo'ing Aug 20 12:10:09 zmog hit what outlet? HP BB amazon? which?????? Aug 20 12:10:42 Bmyers: Yes. Aug 20 12:11:26 Bmyers: at Best Buy at least as far as I know, I was told it's currently 129 at Office Depot Aug 20 12:11:27 jfc sprint only carrier 6 phones that are android and have qwerty keyboards Aug 20 12:11:27 "Best Buy will not be offering the TouchPad for sale in any way, shape, or form" Aug 20 12:11:45 fuck bestbuy Aug 20 12:11:52 they over charge for shit almost always Aug 20 12:11:59 and hate it when you buy shit they don't over charge for Aug 20 12:12:11 and damn near force a fucking extended warrentyh on you Aug 20 12:12:17 149 at office depot Aug 20 12:12:22 32gb Aug 20 12:12:27 i've had a few friends been told they couldn't buy something w/o having to get an extended warrenty Aug 20 12:12:46 Bmyers: that's the discounted price for the 32gb according to precentral iirc Aug 20 12:13:13 what kind of hardware is in that tablet? Aug 20 12:13:45 No idea but I'd assume wikipedia has an article on it :) Aug 20 12:14:09 129 for the 16gb Aug 20 12:14:09 yeah well bandwidth sucks in this part of the world Aug 20 12:14:18 takes forever to load up anything Aug 20 12:14:19 Bmyers: should be 99 for 16 Aug 20 12:14:21 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HP_TouchPad#Hardware <= Aug 20 12:14:23 Bmyers: try to check out, its out of stock Aug 20 12:14:50 http://www.officedepot.com/a/products/278385/HP-TouchPad-Tablet-16GB/ Aug 20 12:14:54 Ouch. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HP_TouchPad#Cost_of_materials Aug 20 12:15:33 now it says 599 for the 32gb.. 2 secs ago it was 149 Aug 20 12:15:36 sucks for them Aug 20 12:15:43 no wonder bestbuy says it doesn't want to sell any Aug 20 12:16:15 this is ridiculous Aug 20 12:16:21 stores are selling out at the 400$ price Aug 20 12:16:35 the hardware overview on the touchpad article is kinda lol Aug 20 12:16:38 i would't pay 400 Aug 20 12:16:44 i'd pay maybe 100 or 150 Aug 20 12:16:45 * rrix is tempted to edit it but doesn't have citations Aug 20 12:17:03 shades, theyre just going to get the price matched after order Aug 20 12:17:06 once it does drop Aug 20 12:17:24 people are trying to secure them that's all Aug 20 12:18:26 hmm, placed order for 3 on hp.com yesterday.... Aug 20 12:18:50 might by another 3 off MC right now--if i end up with duplicates, think i could move them (preferrably to you good folk) for cost? :) Aug 20 12:19:11 whats mc? Aug 20 12:19:15 does anyone know if sprint is replacing palm pres right now? Aug 20 12:19:19 microcenter Aug 20 12:19:19 microcenter, sorry. Aug 20 12:19:49 Anyone seen any price drop yet in UK? Aug 20 12:19:50 plov: probably for profit to fanboys Aug 20 12:20:06 dtzWill: if you still have one in a week or two I certainly could pick one up Aug 20 12:20:23 Going to Edinburg tomorrow and wanted to buy one. Or hell, two perhaps. Aug 20 12:20:26 dtzWill: its reg price still there? Aug 20 12:21:24 not necc looking for commitments from people (i mean, ty, that's good too!) but trying to generally gauge if i'll end up with 3 tp's i can't do anythnig with Aug 20 12:21:39 well that's a lie, i can do plenty with, but not in ways that justify the cost ;) Aug 20 12:22:01 rofl tehir customer service webchat backlog Aug 20 12:22:09 estimates i'll be helped in 5 hours and 23 minutes Aug 20 12:23:45 yeah, not making a real commitment, just saying that there's a 99% chance I'll be looking for one Aug 20 12:23:56 dtzWill: what website? Aug 20 12:24:11 oh, hp.com's webchat Aug 20 12:24:15 sorry for the lack fo context. Aug 20 12:24:19 Loudergood: understood, and ty :) Aug 20 12:24:24 hey Aug 20 12:24:25 what's the backlog about? Aug 20 12:24:27 gonna call them shortly Aug 20 12:24:29 peoples orders not going through? Aug 20 12:24:35 everyone and their brother trying to buy a cheap tp Aug 20 12:24:35 lol Aug 20 12:24:35 dtzWill: lol you'll be waiting just as long Aug 20 12:27:09 http://www.officedepot.com/a/products/278394/HP-TouchPad-Tablet-32GB/ Aug 20 12:27:59 hey Aug 20 12:28:09 who's got the deal live? Aug 20 12:28:15 I have no local office depots Aug 20 12:28:18 microcenter atm afaik Aug 20 12:28:43 anu word on bestbuy? Aug 20 12:28:59 bestbuy sent their inventory back afaik Aug 20 12:30:03 i wonder how usable a TP will be after profiles are shutdown Aug 20 12:30:19 1) they won't be 2) preware Aug 20 12:30:24 I don't think profiles will be shut down Aug 20 12:30:28 Bmyers: my usage i think will be 100% the same Aug 20 12:30:28 lol Aug 20 12:30:34 metadoctor/impostah can get a non-profiled device running Aug 20 12:30:35 oh i guess app catalog, but shrug Aug 20 12:30:43 how long will preware stick around after the show is over? Aug 20 12:30:51 They won't be shutting down the servers though Aug 20 12:31:22 maybe they'll be an android hack for TP Aug 20 12:31:22 so can't buy one at bestbuy? Aug 20 12:31:30 staples? Aug 20 12:31:34 Damn exactly 8:29 Aug 20 12:31:39 Morning people. Aug 20 12:31:41 Bmyers: trsohmers and some others want to try it. Aug 20 12:31:50 Hi rrix lol Aug 20 12:31:55 I'll probably look in to getting fedora-arm on it sooner or later just too unmotivated Aug 20 12:31:58 wb TravisAntonio Aug 20 12:32:31 alright in for another 3. will see what i end up with, sleepy time for me Aug 20 12:32:32 Just about a call to get my TP :) Aug 20 12:32:41 how about an iOS hack for TP :) Aug 20 12:32:47 Hope there are stock in Office Depot NJ Aug 20 12:32:50 good night, dtzWill Aug 20 12:32:59 or good morning :P Aug 20 12:33:19 if you're going to pay 130$ for the office depot one Aug 20 12:33:21 Bmyers: apple kicks touchpad ass with patents then. Aug 20 12:33:23 might as well buy 150$ one Aug 20 12:33:29 http://www.officedepot.com/a/products/278394/HP-TouchPad-Tablet-32GB/ Aug 20 12:33:50 TravisAntonio: You can't sue a company or platform for what some homebrewers do Aug 20 12:33:56 We've been doing this crap for ages Aug 20 12:34:07 Yep I know Aug 20 12:34:15 But anyways it will Aug 20 12:34:20 You know how apple is. Aug 20 12:34:23 man officedepot has some in stock locally for 129... Aug 20 12:34:29 i dont know why they are charging 30$ more Aug 20 12:34:42 Just because Aug 20 12:34:43 Lol Aug 20 12:35:04 more than who? Aug 20 12:35:10 everyone else Aug 20 12:35:12 everyone else Aug 20 12:35:14 than the 100$ HP et al are doing Aug 20 12:35:21 who has the 99 / 32gb ? Aug 20 12:35:27 no one Aug 20 12:35:40 99/16gb, 150/32gb is the norm Aug 20 12:35:49 well then wtf? Aug 20 12:35:51 it's pretty much selling out Aug 20 12:35:58 bbl time to go shopping :x Aug 20 12:36:14 is the TP dual core? Aug 20 12:36:19 Bmyers: yes Aug 20 12:36:27 dual core 1.2ghz, overclockable to 1.7ghz Aug 20 12:36:30 sweet Aug 20 12:36:42 too bad HP pulled out and zipped up Aug 20 12:36:45 i'ev been waiting all morning to call this one store, and they sold out of the 16gb while i was waiting at full price Aug 20 12:36:58 Bmyers: welcome to the same thoughts we've all had for two days now :) Aug 20 12:37:02 the rep was like it's actually -7 in stock Aug 20 12:37:03 Far as I know it can be overclocked to 2.4ghz or even 2.8. Aug 20 12:37:12 That chip. Aug 20 12:37:21 Maybe if you had a fire extinguisher handy :) Aug 20 12:37:22 But the limit right now is 1.7 Aug 20 12:37:29 Hahahahaahahaha Aug 20 12:37:51 Hey Aug 20 12:37:56 so, microcenter link? Aug 20 12:37:59 ah i should save my pennies for an ipad2 anyway Aug 20 12:38:15 at least i could devel for it Aug 20 12:38:33 the TP would just be another palm product in my desk drawer Aug 20 12:38:40 I've got some liquid nitrogen Aug 20 12:38:47 Can I have some? Aug 20 12:38:52 haha Aug 20 12:38:52 Bmyers: at a 100$ who cares :P Aug 20 12:38:57 need to save it for overclocking Aug 20 12:39:06 why not the 32gb? Aug 20 12:39:13 So $100 at microcenter atm? Aug 20 12:39:16 And link? Aug 20 12:39:16 if you're pissing away money Aug 20 12:39:22 50$ for 16gb of storage space? what will people store on a tablet? Aug 20 12:39:35 i'm only buying the 150$ one if i cant buy the 99$ one Aug 20 12:39:40 all the good time of being a palm devel'r Aug 20 12:39:44 Touchpad is a HP product and design not from palm... Aug 20 12:40:23 fair warning guys, compusa / circuitcity will price match when they drop their price, but you'd only get in store credit Aug 20 12:40:34 i should have said my palm / hp drawer of memories. i also have a notebook from hp Aug 20 12:40:34 sorry if I publish this twice (I am new to irc) - somebody of HP just put a spoof video on the HP TouchPad promo website: http://h41112.www4.hp.com/promo/webos/uk/en/tablet/touchpad.html Aug 20 12:40:37 Circuit City still exists? o.O Aug 20 12:40:40 so don't buy at full price hoping to price match it later Aug 20 12:41:02 They died out here in AZ Aug 20 12:41:06 rrix: it's all 1 company compusa, circuit city and tiger direct Aug 20 12:41:07 I suppose the staff is kind of pissed. :) Aug 20 12:41:12 word. Aug 20 12:41:19 We don't have any of them here :) Aug 20 12:41:37 instore credit? that' sfucking lame Aug 20 12:41:54 yep Aug 20 12:42:30 jandr.com will give you full credit IF they honor the price match but 100% if their own prices drop Aug 20 12:42:34 does a pre touchstone work with a TP? Aug 20 12:42:45 its 30 days full refund though Aug 20 12:42:50 un-opened Aug 20 12:43:11 Un opened Aug 20 12:43:13 drat. Aug 20 12:43:18 I just remember that's Fry's policy too Aug 20 12:44:27 * rrix will try anyways Aug 20 12:44:28 who has them for $9 / 16gb . office depot shows 129 so for an extra $30, 16 more gb seems worth it Aug 20 12:44:36 $99 ^^ Aug 20 12:44:48 Hell Aug 20 12:44:51 Just called Walmart Aug 20 12:45:01 they refuse to price match their own website Aug 20 12:45:15 hah Aug 20 12:45:53 trsohmers: yea Aug 20 12:46:01 people are saying the brick stores won't honor their sites prices Aug 20 12:46:10 That's kinda disgusting Aug 20 12:46:13 but people are buying them anyway and just getting the credit when the store prices drop Aug 20 12:46:41 i'm not kidding man, literally you either have to be lucky and get in when price changes or order at full and get credit later Aug 20 12:47:00 * rrix got lucky when he called HP last night, lol.. Aug 20 12:47:02 wtf walmart Aug 20 12:47:11 Calling officemax Aug 20 12:47:24 let me know how that guys trsohmers Aug 20 12:47:35 i was waiting for 10mins when i called before :p Aug 20 12:47:35 got one about 3 miles from me Aug 20 12:47:41 i just hung up Aug 20 12:47:53 officemax is at full price though Aug 20 12:48:15 so find out if they'll price match Aug 20 12:48:17 Yeah, but they will price match OfficeDepot Aug 20 12:48:27 ok let me know how it goes Aug 20 12:48:40 ok Aug 20 12:49:08 so no link for mc? Aug 20 12:49:08 usually they dont tell you right then and there though Aug 20 12:49:16 officedepot won't pricematch Aug 20 12:49:17 they usually have to run it through some people and get back to you Aug 20 12:49:34 what will people ever need 32gb for? Aug 20 12:49:35 'uhh yeah, we can't do this' Aug 20 12:49:42 plov: music movijes etc Aug 20 12:49:53 ehhhh i dont know Aug 20 12:50:08 office depot has it at $130 instead of $99 Aug 20 12:50:14 no smc card in TP Aug 20 12:50:20 no smartcard? wtf Aug 20 12:50:22 bs Aug 20 12:50:29 i kind of want one but not realy now Aug 20 12:50:35 and you can't cfhange your own battery, right? Aug 20 12:51:06 Can't change the battery Aug 20 12:51:16 yeah not too interested anymore Aug 20 12:51:26 it sucks that theyd on't make shit targeted for engineers anymore Aug 20 12:51:28 Seriously? That would kill it for you? Aug 20 12:51:51 most tablets are non-removable Aug 20 12:51:55 deal brakers: no qwerty && can't change the battery Aug 20 12:52:06 not changing the battery is fucking facist Aug 20 12:52:18 what if i run out of juice on the road? i can't swap batteries? yeah no fucking thanks Aug 20 12:53:18 that's an apple like behavior Aug 20 12:53:23 not really Aug 20 12:53:26 you can't even change your LAPTOPS battery anymore with them! Aug 20 12:53:31 radioshack, no firesale? Aug 20 12:53:54 Ooh, forgot radioshack Aug 20 12:53:55 apple: can't change laptop, phone, nor tablet batteries Aug 20 12:54:00 Which mainstream tablet can you change the battery on? Aug 20 12:54:18 ^ Aug 20 12:54:21 rrix: Toshiba Thrive…. Aug 20 12:54:26 but it is a freaking brick Aug 20 12:54:27 idk, but they need to stop following suit of apple's shitty marketing Aug 20 12:54:35 We gave that right up when we wanted htem to be .00001 inches thick Aug 20 12:54:41 haha Aug 20 12:54:42 uh Aug 20 12:54:43 i didn't Aug 20 12:54:44 It's not marketing, it's a race to the bottom Aug 20 12:54:45 you did Aug 20 12:54:55 shades: Buy a tablet that has a removable battery. Aug 20 12:55:00 making something thiner doesn't mean the battery shouldn't be removable Aug 20 12:55:03 fucking slide off the back Aug 20 12:55:06 snippet for everyone who wants to check the touchpad's price in germany using a bashscript: http://pastie.org/2401501 Aug 20 12:55:09 take out the battery and put a new one in Aug 20 12:55:14 Seriously, go for it. I'm not going to try to change your mind and no one else should at this point Aug 20 12:55:15 it doesn't need to be any thicker to have the back piece removable Aug 20 12:55:32 The JooJoo! (You only have to unscrew the back, remove a ribbon cable, and attempt to obtain a replacement, apparently)... Aug 20 12:55:34 * vmlemon_ hides Aug 20 12:55:34 OfficeMax is shipping their touch pads back to HP Aug 20 12:56:07 wtf Aug 20 12:56:09 since when Aug 20 12:56:15 Since now Aug 20 12:56:21 they just got instructed to Aug 20 12:56:32 really? Aug 20 12:56:36 still listed as "New" product of radioshack Aug 20 12:56:50 trsohmers: any reason why? Aug 20 12:57:00 because they have been discontinued by HP Aug 20 12:57:02 lol, it's so new it's discontinued Aug 20 12:57:39 haha Aug 20 12:57:41 uh that's weird Aug 20 12:57:51 what about all the other stores Aug 20 12:57:59 so officemax isn't selling them anymore? Aug 20 12:58:02 and won't pricematch Aug 20 12:58:04 ya know, it could take longer than a month to try and compete with ipad.. just saying HP Aug 20 12:58:29 Bmyers: i think its the retail stores that pressured them Aug 20 12:58:30 But six weeks? psh. Aug 20 12:58:48 fuck everything about this >8 o Aug 20 12:58:51 i have some work to do Aug 20 12:58:56 i remember reading an article that went something like bestbuy was disappointed with the sales and didnt want to hold onto them anymore Aug 20 12:59:01 i have to move a damn ethernet cable from one patch pannel to another >8 | Aug 20 12:59:02 I wonder if bestbuy will be selling the touchpad this morning Aug 20 12:59:32 Places where $99 is up at the moment? Aug 20 13:00:15 siestacat: lets see Aug 20 13:00:25 i've been trying to find one for 4 hours, i don't have one :P Aug 20 13:00:32 Samsclub Aug 20 13:00:34 But sold out Aug 20 13:00:40 and they don't match prices in-store Aug 20 13:00:46 will staples have it in store for $99? Aug 20 13:01:31 so bestbuy wouldn't be selling it Aug 20 13:01:43 http://h41112.www4.hp.com/promo/webos/us/en/shopping-touchpad.html Aug 20 13:01:43 arent most of the retailers shipping them back? Aug 20 13:01:50 $99 at HP again?! Aug 20 13:01:54 and doesnt HP.com have it for 100$ but out of stock? Aug 20 13:01:55 where? Aug 20 13:02:04 crap Aug 20 13:02:06 out of stock Aug 20 13:02:21 you know that sounds reasonable because bestbuy said sold out really quickly before they even changed prices Aug 20 13:02:24 don't worry... they should have 1.000.000 units in a few weeks Aug 20 13:02:25 :-D Aug 20 13:02:27 so bestbuy is shipping them back too Aug 20 13:02:50 sounds like it Aug 20 13:02:57 anyone have stock at $99 right now? Aug 20 13:03:05 £349 for a 16GB model, or £429 for a 32GB model here. Aug 20 13:03:12 I'm trying to find out Aug 20 13:03:30 but i wonder what about the other stores that went ahead and listed them for 99$? like walmart Aug 20 13:03:48 ... Aug 20 13:03:58 Out of stock -.- Aug 20 13:04:09 On every Office Depot in NJ. Aug 20 13:04:45 looks like the only place to get it is on HP website Aug 20 13:04:57 dont come here to ny, out of stock too Aug 20 13:05:03 Lol Aug 20 13:05:10 I don't live in USA. Aug 20 13:05:12 I've asked a lot of UK retailers, it looks like the reducations will be on monday and not as much as the US simply because there isn't the same level of stock to dump Aug 20 13:05:20 SHit Aug 20 13:05:25 sounds like Staples is shipping them back Aug 20 13:05:34 you just got off the phone with staples? Aug 20 13:05:39 More for HP then. Aug 20 13:05:42 dont worry guys Aug 20 13:05:51 HP.com will have plenty in stock for 100 USD soon Aug 20 13:05:56 since EVERYBODY is sending them back Aug 20 13:06:02 phoque_uni: that's fine if i could back order... Aug 20 13:06:22 They will have to hold on to some to cover warrenty issues Aug 20 13:07:03 Oh damn... Aug 20 13:07:18 Is there a waltmart at NJ?. Aug 20 13:07:48 STAPLES HAS THEN! Aug 20 13:07:52 THEM* Aug 20 13:08:12 Staples? Aug 20 13:08:17 where? Aug 20 13:08:31 My local one Aug 20 13:08:35 and they are going to price match Aug 20 13:08:40 nice Aug 20 13:08:42 When?. Aug 20 13:08:44 theyre reserving it? Aug 20 13:09:00 The weird thing is - the cheaper a product is, the more you get the 'cheap' customers who love to complain "I paid $75 for this tablet and I expect my monies worth!" Aug 20 13:10:11 trsohmers : did you just call? Aug 20 13:11:38 think radioshck would price match? Aug 20 13:12:30 probably not Aug 20 13:12:41 Alanrogers: I don't think that's weird. Aug 20 13:13:03 There is stock in walmart Aug 20 13:13:05 :D Aug 20 13:13:08 In NJ Aug 20 13:13:13 do they price match? Aug 20 13:13:14 or what? Aug 20 13:13:19 but walmart wont pricematch their own website Aug 20 13:13:25 yeh I know Aug 20 13:13:26 Yeees Aug 20 13:13:26 Thea cheaper they are, the more poeple and asshats will buy it. Aug 20 13:13:28 They did Aug 20 13:13:57 HP Touchpad 16GB 99 Aug 20 13:14:05 at wallies? Aug 20 13:14:18 And 32gb 149$ Aug 20 13:14:22 At walmart Aug 20 13:14:46 no Aug 20 13:14:53 No walmart still selling in store for $500 Aug 20 13:14:58 They did that with another deal Aug 20 13:15:06 Oh... Aug 20 13:15:09 Online deal?. Aug 20 13:15:20 TravisAntonio_: unless you called yea they dont price match their site Aug 20 13:15:32 I will call them now... Aug 20 13:15:33 Lol Aug 20 13:15:38 I have to check Aug 20 13:16:02 this is pretty annoying, just want to order 2! and goto sleep :P Aug 20 13:16:38 Will let you know guys... Aug 20 13:16:42 Give me a sec Aug 20 13:16:44 if it ends up being that all these people who are ordering to resell... but they have so MUCH stock that they cant resell it Aug 20 13:17:07 it'll be comical Aug 20 13:17:14 walmart operator here said they were out of stock Aug 20 13:18:30 Damn... My Voxofon can no call to walmart number -.- Aug 20 13:18:40 Who can call to ask?. Aug 20 13:18:50 I'll give the number. Aug 20 13:18:58 so looks like HP doesnt have enough stock to fill the orders Aug 20 13:19:19 Who is going to call to give the number?. Aug 20 13:19:26 I just called them and they said they didnt have stock and my order was cancelled last night Aug 20 13:19:36 Actually they said it was a widespread issue Aug 20 13:19:55 They have stock Aug 20 13:19:58 heh, they found out how to sell them like hotcakes, post mortum Aug 20 13:20:23 Can you call to this number to check the price CTLAdvance?. Aug 20 13:20:31 (973) 299-3943 Aug 20 13:20:55 CTLAdvance: Really? Feh :( Aug 20 13:20:56 HP doesnt have stock Aug 20 13:21:20 where was that whole thing about warehouses full of em Aug 20 13:21:45 I think they took more orders then they can handle Aug 20 13:21:54 so hopefully most of you who got them in early Aug 20 13:21:59 and got the conf email Aug 20 13:22:00 are fine Aug 20 13:22:27 damn I should have ordered from HP Aug 20 13:22:32 CTLAdvance: did you call the number I gave hyo Aug 20 13:22:38 looks like best buy isn't going to sell them Aug 20 13:22:38 You* Aug 20 13:22:39 ? Aug 20 13:22:40 so looks like I keep my loander F*@#$*#(*@&#$ Aug 20 13:24:11 * vmlemon_ thinks that HP should just said that all TouchPads were "Limited Editions" from day 1... Aug 20 13:24:19 *should have Aug 20 13:24:56 Was it true that HP were stopping developers pulling their apps from the store or is that just bunk? Aug 20 13:25:24 I have called 5 different hp numbers Aug 20 13:25:26 actually 3 Aug 20 13:25:41 thats ok tho Aug 20 13:25:46 my loaner was brand new Aug 20 13:28:06 I think I will pass by Best Buy and see what happens Aug 20 13:28:57 ... Aug 20 13:29:05 You don't get me -.- Aug 20 13:30:48 hey Aug 20 13:30:55 just got off the phone with compusa Aug 20 13:31:28 the guy told me that they bought them at 200$ and won't be selling them for 99$ Aug 20 13:31:44 until hp either reimburses them or yea they mail them back Aug 20 13:31:55 Alanrogers: No one has reported that publicly Aug 20 13:32:18 Ah right, I saw some talk about it on the developers forum. Aug 20 13:32:28 this would be one messed up marketing ploy Aug 20 13:32:31 my TP order is finally being processed Aug 20 13:32:44 tp? Aug 20 13:32:49 touchpad Aug 20 13:32:50 dawm|laptop: YOU PEOPLE AND YOUR FULL NIGHT OF SLEEP MAKE ME ILL. Aug 20 13:32:54 :) Aug 20 13:32:56 full night? Aug 20 13:33:00 ive been at work since 4am fool Aug 20 13:33:01 more than I've got :) Aug 20 13:33:03 you ordered from hp? Aug 20 13:33:08 bedtime at around midnight Aug 20 13:33:14 plov: last night Aug 20 13:33:23 Still more than I've got ;) Aug 20 13:33:34 * rrix was up all night planning to go to Fry's but it's not really worth the effort now Aug 20 13:33:36 imagine they sell like 10,000 at them for 99 and go well it's hot now, price is back up to 399 Aug 20 13:33:50 hp was out of stock when i got up Aug 20 13:34:00 plov: I wouldn't put it past the brilliant upper management to do just that :) Aug 20 13:34:43 Rrix: answer PM. Aug 20 13:35:49 What? Aug 20 13:35:50 Oh Aug 20 13:36:00 TravisAntonio_: general etiquette is to ask before you do that. Aug 20 13:37:30 anyone hear back from that brandon guy from microsoft? Aug 20 13:37:41 he tweeted he will personally respond to all tweets/emails Aug 20 13:37:50 apparently he got flooded :P Aug 20 13:38:41 I really kind of want the 64gb anyway Aug 20 13:38:52 I havent seen that anywhere in the US or HP online here Aug 20 13:38:59 I had word that it was up Aug 20 13:39:04 but I never saw it Aug 20 13:39:19 http://mobile.walmart.com/m/searchfindinstoreresults?product_id=16662273&lat=0.0&lon=0.0&zip=&city=North+bergen&state=NJ Aug 20 13:39:29 dawm - I have talked to them a few times Aug 20 13:39:33 they are really great Aug 20 13:39:48 he tweeted yesterday that someone from palm asked him for a job at MS Aug 20 13:39:56 I think that was a European model? (the 64gb model) Aug 20 13:40:10 They launched in europe Aug 20 13:40:12 any success at local staples stores Aug 20 13:40:14 originally Aug 20 13:40:15 or best buy/ Aug 20 13:40:19 I'm heading off that way later Aug 20 13:40:21 best buy isnt selling them Aug 20 13:40:27 best buy is sending them back Aug 20 13:40:30 in USA Aug 20 13:40:31 Any decent programmers with the WebOS GBU will be working their CVs like nobody's business. Aug 20 13:40:34 not in canada Aug 20 13:41:36 i dont want a job, but i do want a phone that will exist in the future Aug 20 13:41:44 and some bonus income is also nice Aug 20 13:41:52 it's not going to vanish out of your hands :) Aug 20 13:42:20 but im also not gonna be able to replace it easily if it gets destroyed Aug 20 13:42:34 any online places have it up? Aug 20 13:43:12 Here is the good news Aug 20 13:43:19 ! Aug 20 13:43:22 what is it Aug 20 13:43:29 hp will start to get devices back from retailers over the next week or two Aug 20 13:43:33 then they will go back on sale Aug 20 13:43:38 source? Aug 20 13:43:45 HP Aug 20 13:44:02 yea but how do you know? where are you getting this information from Aug 20 13:44:07 So I dont know how many they will get back but we should have another small window to buy them Aug 20 13:44:11 hp Aug 20 13:44:19 will more be on sale today? Aug 20 13:44:28 That they arent telling me Aug 20 13:44:38 staples says that they don't carry touchpads in store? Aug 20 13:44:38 you called them? Aug 20 13:44:41 or do you work for hp? Aug 20 13:44:44 has anyone ever seen one in store? Aug 20 13:47:21 A touchpad? In all the time that WebOS has been on the market, I've never seen a single webOS in the wild. Aug 20 13:47:31 Alanrogers: not even on TV? Aug 20 13:47:41 flashforward (tv series) used the pre like omg all over Aug 20 13:48:11 I'm in the UK - I think o2 did a few adverts for the first Pre but it bombed hard here and we never had anything like it again Aug 20 13:48:15 dawm|laptop: then I know which series i should watch, thanks Aug 20 13:48:28 madnificent: i just started watching it the other day on netflix Aug 20 13:48:38 hey Aug 20 13:48:39 microcenter Aug 20 13:48:45 dawm|laptop: is it any good? Aug 20 13:48:46 got tired of watching lost (watched it entirely atleast 4 times) Aug 20 13:48:49 yep Aug 20 13:48:54 has alot of lost people in it too Aug 20 13:49:02 penny and charlie so far Aug 20 13:49:03 * madnificent hasn't seen lost Aug 20 13:49:06 OMG Aug 20 13:49:08 die Aug 20 13:49:14 (deliberately) Aug 20 13:49:31 \me dies Aug 20 13:49:34 whot? Aug 20 13:49:36 * madnificent dies Aug 20 13:49:36 yeah you need to die Aug 20 13:49:38 ty Aug 20 13:49:38 lost is epic Aug 20 13:49:49 hell watch 1-5 and ignore season 6, Aug 20 13:50:00 i do not want to be a hp sales rep in 20mins Aug 20 13:50:07 plov: lol Aug 20 13:50:07 that's when their phone lines open up heh Aug 20 13:50:51 i know they were slammed last night Aug 20 13:51:00 when i was talking to a rep thru chat, all he knew was i wanted sales Aug 20 13:51:07 and his first question was 'is this about the touchpad?' Aug 20 13:51:13 haha Aug 20 13:51:54 and tomorrow hp says "oh right, the touchpad only costs us 75 dollar, we thought we'd do something funny Aug 20 13:52:23 i mean if they priced it at 150 instead of 99, it'll still be selling out so i dont know why they priced it soooo low Aug 20 13:52:25 Anyone know where to get a TouchPad for $100? Aug 20 13:52:39 Everywhere is out of stock Aug 20 13:52:52 if i knew i'd be asleep already Aug 20 13:52:58 haha Aug 20 13:52:58 plov: beacusey wont to ged rid of it Aug 20 13:53:03 falst. Aug 20 13:53:11 *fast. Aug 20 13:53:15 I'm hoping HP has a "2nd fire sale" with all the returned units from retailers or gives devs those ones Aug 20 13:53:32 someone said they are Aug 20 13:53:35 well bestbuy has what? 250,000 units they dont want Aug 20 13:53:48 you figure only 250k? Aug 20 13:54:03 ugh :/ that means hp will sell out fast again Aug 20 13:54:43 Walmart has in stock Aug 20 13:54:50 online? Aug 20 13:54:51 At 99$ Aug 20 13:54:55 No Aug 20 13:55:00 I went into Staples right when they opened and they were like "We haven't lowered our prices and aren't price matching" Aug 20 13:55:14 haha Aug 20 13:55:18 You have to go to walmart Aug 20 13:55:25 Online orders are oos. Aug 20 13:55:39 does walmart have them? Aug 20 13:55:44 walmart doesn't carry any in my stores Aug 20 13:55:48 Anyone know if accessories are super cheap? I haven't been seeing any new prices. Aug 20 13:55:50 I have one in my cart at microcenter Aug 20 13:55:52 for $99 Aug 20 13:55:55 Yes they do Aug 20 13:55:58 At NJ Aug 20 13:55:58 it was $99 aboout 5 minutes ago Aug 20 13:56:03 not in ME Aug 20 13:56:27 siestacat: they will sent you a "your order is cancelled" email Aug 20 13:56:39 send* Aug 20 13:56:42 that's their plan! 99$ tablet, 100$ accessory! Aug 20 13:56:53 You can even check online if it's available to buy at the store Aug 20 13:57:03 200 in total Aug 20 13:57:04 Lol Aug 20 13:58:01 did anyone's orders get cancelled? Aug 20 13:58:10 none of my walmarts have them Aug 20 13:58:20 someone earlier said their order got cancelled Aug 20 13:58:48 my friend said his Microcenter order got cancelled Aug 20 13:59:00 but did anyone who ordered direct from HP get cancelled? Aug 20 13:59:25 that's what i meant, hp Aug 20 13:59:47 Hm Aug 20 13:59:56 Anyone know if there's any difference between US and Euro TouchPad? Aug 20 14:00:11 Might convince some of my US friends to pick up one for me if no difference =) Aug 20 14:00:14 just the charger Aug 20 14:00:35 At least my Pre 2 came with one which had interchangeable plug pieces Aug 20 14:01:20 My microcenter order got canceled Aug 20 14:01:30 zomg: did you find a way to buy a cheap one? Aug 20 14:01:58 * madnificent is also in doubt to buy a veer... need to save money though Aug 20 14:02:36 madnificent: my friend is at office depot at the moment waiting for them to open :D Aug 20 14:02:54 zomg the US touchpads don't come with a euro power plug Aug 20 14:03:08 but that's it Aug 20 14:03:09 Is it interchangeable with the Pre charger plugs? Aug 20 14:03:22 no, i don't think so, pretty sure that it's not Aug 20 14:03:30 touchpad has a 10W usb charger Aug 20 14:03:37 for the wall Aug 20 14:03:54 Okay Aug 20 14:03:56 but i guess you can use the pre charger, it would just be slower Aug 20 14:04:05 it would work, but it's slower Aug 20 14:04:10 I suppose buying the charger separately shouldn't be bad Aug 20 14:04:41 get an hp one though, not some ebay crap :P Aug 20 14:04:51 Yeah :D Aug 20 14:07:47 what all comes w/ the tp in the box? Aug 20 14:08:01 i was just in a rush to get one before they sold out i didnt bother on accessories Aug 20 14:08:59 the office max here took down their display last night and aren't going to sell them anymore. wally world still has them at the 400/500 price Aug 20 14:09:31 hp seriously fucked up Aug 20 14:10:02 I'm sticking with my pre as long as possible, and I'm still aiming to get a TP Aug 20 14:10:06 If it worked it would have been clever, because you'd have loads of people with cheap TPs ready to buy apps. Aug 20 14:10:23 * madnificent bought a printer 3 weeks ago with the foresight that it would integrate with future webos devices Aug 20 14:11:25 I'm still expecting future devices... probably 3/5 years from now and made by LG or something Aug 20 14:11:30 madnificent: whoops Aug 20 14:11:40 nah, hp isn't going to open source it Aug 20 14:11:45 they'll hold onto it like a patent troll Aug 20 14:11:47 fuckers. Aug 20 14:12:32 Hey Guys! Aug 20 14:12:39 Just got a 32gig Touchpad at Staples... Aug 20 14:12:40 for $149! Aug 20 14:13:25 I knew that getting Hurd out was a bad idea, but I hadn't realised it was this bad Aug 20 14:13:33 they priced matched it? Aug 20 14:13:56 i guess it's hit or miss Aug 20 14:14:29 heh Aug 20 14:14:35 everyone's sold out online :D Aug 20 14:14:40 trsohmers: just now? Aug 20 14:14:47 damnit i can't go to a staples Aug 20 14:14:55 there are no staples around here Aug 20 14:15:09 but on the plus side there are no starbucks either Aug 20 14:15:12 i could hit a few best buys, walmarts, and staples today Aug 20 14:15:30 umccullough: spend 50$s in gas to buy a 150$ tablet ;) Aug 20 14:15:43 totally Aug 20 14:15:47 my car gets 33mpg Aug 20 14:15:52 Just now Aug 20 14:16:02 and i usually drive 100 miles/day for my commute anyway Aug 20 14:16:08 They price matched it to office depot Aug 20 14:16:10 that's super far Aug 20 14:16:21 i hate driving, and 100miles/day wouldn't be worth it imho' Aug 20 14:16:26 unless I had a soundsystem Aug 20 14:16:33 eh, i'm about to quit that job and work from home ;) Aug 20 14:17:38 100 miles a day? wow Aug 20 14:17:55 you get used to it - been doing that for 11 years Aug 20 14:17:59 i guess it wouldnt be bad if there was no traffic in site Aug 20 14:18:08 yeah, all freeway Aug 20 14:18:17 45-50 mins each way Aug 20 14:18:26 could be relaxing then Aug 20 14:18:30 totally is Aug 20 14:19:02 so i just placed an order on hp for full price heh Aug 20 14:19:13 they're sitll taking orders? Aug 20 14:19:16 it'll get cancelled anyway i bet Aug 20 14:19:24 yea apparently Aug 20 14:19:28 huh Aug 20 14:19:56 working from home is win Aug 20 14:19:56 i can probably hit 3 walmarts today, and 3 or 4 best buys Aug 20 14:19:59 commuting sucks Aug 20 14:20:01 and maybe 2 staples Aug 20 14:20:33 i get to commute by air, it was fun at first but now it's novelty has worn thin Aug 20 14:20:39 but i already have four 32gb units ordered from hp ;) Aug 20 14:20:50 umccullough: dunno if they'll follow through Aug 20 14:21:00 shades, i ordered them from HP last night before they ran out Aug 20 14:21:04 oh Aug 20 14:21:07 well gl Aug 20 14:21:12 thx :) Aug 20 14:21:17 yeah, flying sucks Aug 20 14:21:38 my "work-from-home" job may require commuting to las vegas twice a month Aug 20 14:21:43 via plane Aug 20 14:21:44 it's kind of cool when it's a helicopter Aug 20 14:21:49 oh Aug 20 14:21:53 at least you can visit defcon when that happens Aug 20 14:22:00 true ;) Aug 20 14:22:14 vegas is a 'sometimes place' Aug 20 14:22:15 in fact, there's a lot of cool stuff that happens in vegas Aug 20 14:22:34 defcon blackhat uhhh that's it? Aug 20 14:22:36 bsides maybe Aug 20 14:23:05 Uhm, why do everyone's dreaming about shoving Android onto Touchpad? Aug 20 14:23:11 I thought that webOS was cool? Aug 20 14:23:34 I understand that it's for all intents and purposes dead now, but it's not like Android have killer tablet apps. Aug 20 14:25:55 Hey Aug 20 14:26:05 so uh any places with touchpad? Aug 20 14:26:36 walmart, staples, best buy Aug 20 14:26:38 go now! Aug 20 14:26:58 Bmyers: whats up, mr pomtini? Aug 20 14:27:49 such a great day Aug 20 14:27:58 stuck inside in the office today Aug 20 14:28:04 http://www.microcenter.com/hp/index.html?nMXID=39848&nVID=7240393 Aug 20 14:28:13 when you add it to your cart, it's discounted Aug 20 14:28:23 klausa: yeah, /was/ Aug 20 14:28:27 klausa: android people want a cheap tablet thats not actually cheap Aug 20 14:28:37 compare the touchpad to a $99 android tablet.. Aug 20 14:28:40 I work from home - a lot of people struggle with me and start missing deadlines. Aug 20 14:29:01 "struggle with it" Aug 20 14:29:16 Yeah, I know - I have Android phone, and honestly, I don't see why would I want it on tablet. Aug 20 14:29:34 I only use Mail, ConnectBot and browser. Aug 20 14:29:55 umccullough: Reports say that micro center is going to cancel all touchpad orders Aug 20 14:29:57 It's not like there are any games. Aug 20 14:29:59 and send them back to HP Aug 20 14:30:57 I have an android phone because I'm cheap - it costs £70 with no contract Aug 20 14:31:25 for those who got hp orders cancelled, did they get email confirmations ? Aug 20 14:31:34 trsohmers, that's too bad Aug 20 14:31:43 someone wanna give one or both of these a nice home? http://www.ebay.com/itm/HP-TouchPad-16GB-Wi-Fi-9-7in-Black-BRAND-NEW-/260838651778?pt=US_Tablets&hash=item3cbb31f782 Aug 20 14:32:19 I would, but I can't even afford $200 until next month :( Aug 20 14:33:07 sam's club also has them Aug 20 14:33:12 but not online Aug 20 14:33:32 hmm, is anywhere not sold out? Aug 20 14:34:02 my local wally world still has them, at the full price though Aug 20 14:34:52 my local walmart seems to be oos Aug 20 14:36:01 em.. click on the first overview video here: Aug 20 14:36:04 http://h41112.www4.hp.com/promo/webos/uk/en/tablet/touchpad.html Aug 20 14:37:47 I guess the people in the PSG are trying to make a point to their bosses... Aug 20 14:38:37 why are they sending them back to HP? Aug 20 14:38:52 they're acting a damn fool Aug 20 14:39:11 Call the Staples 1-800 number… they are price matching people no questions asked with 1 day shipping. Aug 20 14:39:33 whoa Aug 20 14:39:35 haeffb: hiya. looking for a fire sale on TP Aug 20 14:40:07 trsohmers: price match... over the phone?? Aug 20 14:40:14 any luck? Aug 20 14:40:33 not yet. officedepot was swamped Aug 20 14:40:34 well, the videos are only on the UK site, so I suppose this is more of a web admin / marketing department scam. Aug 20 14:41:46 trsohmers: where are you getting this information from? Aug 20 14:41:54 My friend just did it Aug 20 14:42:14 * haeffb going to get coffee. Anyone need anything? Aug 20 14:42:19 Alanrogers: what the heck was that Aug 20 14:42:27 I could use some cheap hookers, haeffb. Aug 20 14:42:39 me too Aug 20 14:42:50 sure. How many? Aug 20 14:42:50 I think it was people in HP suggesting that their jobs are about to get out-sourced to india Aug 20 14:43:00 bakers dozen here Aug 20 14:43:03 Alanrogers: could be Aug 20 14:43:24 hmm, so I could drive an hour to potentially get a TP Aug 20 14:43:54 staples stores are not though. called one Aug 20 14:44:18 ok, out to get coffee and hookers. bbl. Aug 20 14:44:36 pick me up some Aug 20 14:45:57 preware turns 2, webos rolls over. Aug 20 14:46:13 no palm pre3 then? Aug 20 14:46:22 idk what fone to get now Aug 20 14:46:27 evo Aug 20 14:46:28 certainly not an iFail Aug 20 14:46:54 Im sticking to Pre2 Aug 20 14:46:55 Its solid Aug 20 14:47:08 just sold mine Aug 20 14:47:39 i had to get an iphone :\ Aug 20 14:47:48 i had an evo for a bit but i can't stand android Aug 20 14:48:03 i like android. Aug 20 14:48:15 use it with exchange Aug 20 14:48:20 you won't like it as much after that hehe Aug 20 14:48:26 Abyssul: and when you break your device ? Aug 20 14:48:27 could be worse. your phone os maker could decide to cut its losses and run. Aug 20 14:48:39 oh wait, thats HP not google.. Aug 20 14:48:39 yeah i'm sad about that with webos Aug 20 14:48:40 GET YA TOUCHPADS AT WALMART! Ask the manager to check the "markdowns" list that is only visible for managers. They'll see lowered price. Aug 20 14:48:41 Shades: Ill just franken pre another device Aug 20 14:49:01 they're not making any more you can't buy them Aug 20 14:49:04 i had a pre but sprints refurbs were so horrible i blew through 6 in the course of 2 months Aug 20 14:49:11 i just checked sprints ebsite they don't even list webos as an option to pick anymore Aug 20 14:49:50 yeah but the pre- was so shoddy Aug 20 14:50:58 There are always Pre-'s and Pre2's on ebay or craigslist Aug 20 14:51:14 and since the Pre- lasted me two years, this pre2 should last me just as long Aug 20 14:51:41 o2 in the UK had a nightmare with the original Pre I think it was their most returned/exchanged phone ever Aug 20 14:52:29 trsohmers: i called staples Aug 20 14:52:37 i just about got told to go f myself politely Aug 20 14:52:46 same here Aug 20 14:52:48 lol Aug 20 14:52:54 how did your friend get it "no questions asked" Aug 20 14:53:08 yeah i went to staples here and they wouldn't price match Aug 20 14:53:16 because i really pushed it, and she was basically like theres no way anyone bought this at the discount price Aug 20 14:53:19 i got one on hp.com last night tho i was helping a friend out Aug 20 14:53:27 plov: lol when you asked to have a price match? Aug 20 14:54:03 I wonder if they'll liquidate VZW Pre 2's Aug 20 14:54:27 if so I will buy 12 Aug 20 14:54:30 or 15 Aug 20 14:54:35 as insurance Aug 20 14:54:46 lol Aug 20 14:54:51 hah Aug 20 14:55:15 guess this defeats my hopes for a cdma pre3 Aug 20 14:55:26 <-_-> Aug 20 14:55:31 I wonder if they actually built them Aug 20 14:55:32 (-_-) Aug 20 14:55:38 if so, they will HAVE to liquidate Aug 20 14:55:48 * Tibfib hopes to get pre3's Aug 20 14:55:49 I wondered that Aug 20 14:55:50 the question remains whether verizon will allow activation Aug 20 14:55:56 she sounded really annoyed too lol the woman i spoke to like shes had enough of all the touchpad stuff Aug 20 14:55:56 indeed. Aug 20 14:55:59 I would be ALL over that Aug 20 14:56:16 plov ask to speak to a manager Aug 20 14:56:34 tell them that you want your fucking price match and do do her job as a fucking bottom of the totem pole bitch and match the fucking price Aug 20 14:57:11 :3 Aug 20 14:57:15 keep calling back until it happens Aug 20 14:57:19 Someone said HP isn't sold out of TPs anymore? Can anyone confirm? Aug 20 14:57:24 hemna, is that you, from plugapps? Aug 20 14:57:35 twbbas: you read that on here? or somewhere else? Aug 20 14:57:37 radioshack and staples haven't gotten the news yet i guess Aug 20 14:57:38 twitter Aug 20 14:57:40 twbbas: probably explains why i've been on hold for 20 minutes trying to verify my order Aug 20 14:57:44 k Aug 20 14:57:58 I called office depot and I was like "Do you guys...." she cut me off and said "Nope." Aug 20 14:58:01 it will be interesting to see if ebay will be flooded with them Aug 20 14:58:07 probably Aug 20 14:58:16 ofc Aug 20 14:58:20 "look, i bought 50 for $100, now to resellthem on ebay for $250!!111" Aug 20 14:58:25 lol Aug 20 14:58:40 microcenter still has 32gb models in stock online. just bought 3 for me and family Aug 20 14:58:47 microcenter has been canceling orders Aug 20 14:58:54 poo Aug 20 14:58:54 yeah Aug 20 14:58:59 my friend's got cancelled Aug 20 14:59:00 my money has bee ndebited out Aug 20 14:59:07 soo.. im hoping thats a good sign :p Aug 20 14:59:14 heh same with my order on hp Aug 20 14:59:29 the slickdeals threads seem to be full of threads of people excited about it Aug 20 14:59:50 are they actually sending you na email saying its been cancelled? Aug 20 14:59:51 using the device itself Aug 20 15:00:24 walmart is sold out online, but there seems to be limited stock in stores still Aug 20 15:00:59 "The HP board just met and voted 7-1 to give their CEO a new name. In honor of last week's events, he's now Leo Apocalypse." Aug 20 15:01:02 wtf how can they be 'sold out' online but still hav ethem in stores Aug 20 15:01:09 woot order was approved on hp.com Aug 20 15:01:14 helf: microcenter doesn't have price cut apparently Aug 20 15:01:22 sampson: when did you place it? Aug 20 15:01:25 microcenter isnt listing them Aug 20 15:01:26 hey yeah it does if you add it to cart Aug 20 15:01:26 Tibfib, if you put it in your cart, it does Aug 20 15:01:34 i did it through their business portal last night Aug 20 15:01:43 when i search for touchpad on microcenter it doesn't come up Aug 20 15:01:46 was it at full price? Aug 20 15:01:50 hmmm, still no confirmation email from hp for hp.com Aug 20 15:01:52 it was stuck in "item being processed" so i wanted to verify if it was completed Aug 20 15:01:55 no Aug 20 15:02:07 business portal is taking orders at full price right now Aug 20 15:02:09 dwc-: I didn't get one either. Aug 20 15:02:22 full price? naaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah.......... Aug 20 15:02:46 sampson, "processing" order was canceled? Aug 20 15:02:53 I guess if your order on the order status is "item being processed" it went through Aug 20 15:02:56 verified is limbo Aug 20 15:02:57 since I just woke up... what stores have them... amazon? fry's? microcenter? staples?officedpoet? Aug 20 15:03:00 crimsonredmk, yah Aug 20 15:03:00 ah Aug 20 15:03:03 http://www.microcenter.com/hp/index.html?nMXID=39848&nVID=7240393 Aug 20 15:03:06 mine's being verified he said it isn't updated from that because they don't ship on the weekends Aug 20 15:03:07 dwc-: none at teh moment Aug 20 15:03:12 dwc: nope Aug 20 15:03:18 dwc-: officedepot Aug 20 15:03:21 ebay bidding wars http://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_from=R40&_trksid=p5197.l1311&_nkw=hp+touchpad+32gb&_sacat=See-All-Categories Aug 20 15:03:22 snooze you looze Aug 20 15:03:25 staples has them but the managers are turd monglers Aug 20 15:03:38 back in stock: http://shopping1.hp.com/is-bin/INTERSHOP.enfinity/WFS/WW-USSMBPublicStore-Site/en_US/-/USD/ViewProductDetail-Start?ProductUUID=hH0Q7EN5nJ8AAAEvWNkr_eNP&CatalogCategoryID=UZYQ7hac3LsAAAExQ1cRE3Kg&JumpTo=OfferList#ProductLinkCrossSelling Aug 20 15:03:58 Tibfib: it's been like that for hours Aug 20 15:04:08 when you checkout, it turns into full price Aug 20 15:04:28 oh, dang Aug 20 15:04:29 these people need to stop fucking us over Aug 20 15:04:42 it's been full price on small biz Aug 20 15:04:44 all night long Aug 20 15:04:50 shades, it's probably all a social experiment to see how stupid people can be Aug 20 15:05:04 plov: looks to be 100 in cart Aug 20 15:05:07 hmm microcenter has the price drop but... out of stock Aug 20 15:05:14 dwc, link? Aug 20 15:05:14 dwc-, try the 32 Aug 20 15:05:18 yea but click view cart Aug 20 15:05:19 at least... silicon valley store Aug 20 15:05:23 Tibfib, just tried it and it showed $399 in cart at checkout Aug 20 15:05:24 lol i added the $99 to my cart and it shows up as $400 Tibfib Aug 20 15:05:32 they already took my money for my 32gb order, so they'd better not cancel now :p Aug 20 15:05:44 from helf's link: http://www.microcenter.com/hp/index.html?nMXID=39848&nVID=7240393 Aug 20 15:05:45 sampson: hrmmmm Aug 20 15:06:01 prices show 399/499 on that landing page, but view and buy gives me 99/149 pricing Aug 20 15:06:02 it did say 100 in cart for a bit Aug 20 15:06:10 then I went to the actual cart and it doesn't Aug 20 15:06:16 microcenter is cancelling orders Aug 20 15:06:18 cant add to cart from MC anyway Aug 20 15:06:19 but out of stock in silicon valley/santa clara Aug 20 15:06:36 I'd drive up there if it said they had any stock Aug 20 15:06:54 my local staples says tehy're $500 Aug 20 15:06:54 honestly, i'd imagine 99% of all retailers are not going to sell at that price Aug 20 15:06:56 wanna get an ipad2 anyway.. something i can devel for Aug 20 15:07:00 but another close by says they're 149 Aug 20 15:07:07 so I'm price checking at one and he'll sell me them. Aug 20 15:07:08 :D Aug 20 15:07:11 I love you guys :) Aug 20 15:07:21 staples would budge here Aug 20 15:07:26 wouldn't Aug 20 15:07:38 siestacat: where? Aug 20 15:07:41 NY Aug 20 15:07:46 staples pricematching is always YMMV Aug 20 15:07:50 i honestly think the ones that are price matching locally are not suppose to Aug 20 15:08:00 and they just dont know it yet Aug 20 15:08:15 heh Aug 20 15:08:24 i really hope mine goes through. Aug 20 15:08:32 the Office depot manager at my local one got fired for pricing matching staples back when it was 300 bucks Aug 20 15:08:49 oh, he probably got fired for more than that Aug 20 15:08:58 shades : maine Aug 20 15:08:58 Yeah probably Aug 20 15:09:22 is there a twitter hash going on for this? Aug 20 15:09:35 #holycrapholycrapHP Aug 20 15:09:37 siestacat online? Aug 20 15:09:50 HP IS IN STOCK! Aug 20 15:09:53 THEY HAVE THEM IN STOCK! Aug 20 15:09:57 Prepare for the stampede! Aug 20 15:10:01 home & office or small biz Aug 20 15:10:03 trsohmers: full price though Aug 20 15:10:06 plov: I'm seeing some #firesale Aug 20 15:10:16 NOPE Aug 20 15:10:19 link? Aug 20 15:10:21 Tibfib: $99 and $149 Aug 20 15:10:26 add them to cart. Aug 20 15:10:29 No Tweet results for #holycrapholycrapHP. Aug 20 15:10:29 then it is full price. Aug 20 15:10:38 aww, bad guess Aug 20 15:10:44 trsohmers: link???? Aug 20 15:10:55 shades: Try #filesale Aug 20 15:11:01 I see them all sold out Aug 20 15:11:04 shades: I mean, #firesale Aug 20 15:11:14 False alarm Aug 20 15:11:15 lol Aug 20 15:11:24 They had it for a second I guss Aug 20 15:11:32 trsohmers: yes, if you had looked up like 20 lines, I had posted that Aug 20 15:11:32 so where's my firewale on a pre3! Aug 20 15:11:33 haha Aug 20 15:11:58 Welp, guess I bring mine back to best buy Aug 20 15:12:00 man i was so excited for the pre 3 when they first announced it and then they said "SUMMER 2011" Aug 20 15:12:12 i was like fuck this, not going through another round of this shit again and went to iphone :( Aug 20 15:12:29 fuck the ifone Aug 20 15:12:37 Android > iOS Aug 20 15:12:41 Android >>>>>>>>>>>> iOS Aug 20 15:12:41 qwertyless fones blow Aug 20 15:12:50 is there a prescribed method for getting a cheap touchpad? Aug 20 15:12:57 it's fucking impossible to text and drive without looking at your screen on a softkeyboard Aug 20 15:12:58 iphone doesn't have qwerty? Aug 20 15:12:58 F5 Aug 20 15:12:58 go rob someone Aug 20 15:13:00 mash that shit Aug 20 15:13:00 wtf Aug 20 15:13:05 summatusmentis: if at first you don't succeed, try, try again ? Aug 20 15:13:09 So what's the deal with 'Order being verified?' Aug 20 15:13:13 nothing that seems 100% Aug 20 15:13:13 umccullough, he means physical keypad Aug 20 15:13:14 HP changed their return policy, $150 is much better than $600 Aug 20 15:13:15 umccullough: ifones never had qwerty Aug 20 15:13:17 klausa, you're f'd Aug 20 15:13:20 the touch screen keyboard on iphone is pretty good... lightyears better than android Aug 20 15:13:26 shades: speech to text works rather well Aug 20 15:13:30 touchscreen keybaords are fail Aug 20 15:13:32 i thought the same when i used the pre- but i adapted Aug 20 15:13:32 are there any online retailers selling them? Aug 20 15:13:39 kirksutton: not for entering commands to a bash shell Aug 20 15:13:42 are you in the us or canada Aug 20 15:13:44 i'm off to find some touchpads Aug 20 15:13:46 later Aug 20 15:13:51 summatusmentis: try the slickdeals thread Aug 20 15:13:53 you could try going to walmart.com and see if any are listed in stock Aug 20 15:13:54 good luck Aug 20 15:13:56 i prefer my htc arrives virtual keyboard to its giant hardware one Aug 20 15:14:00 you shouldn;t be doing that when driving Aug 20 15:14:11 bluetooth keyboard for that Aug 20 15:14:21 umccullough: I'm probably fucked, or totally fucked? Aug 20 15:14:26 you should't be typing on a softekyboard while driving, yes, because you can't keep your eyes on the road Aug 20 15:14:40 with a hardware keyboard yoou don't ever have to take your eyes off the road Aug 20 15:14:45 you shouldn't be typing while driving period Aug 20 15:14:54 shouldn;t be typing into a bash shell when driving period. shouldn't be typing period Aug 20 15:14:59 when driving Aug 20 15:15:03 i guess you shouldn't be changing your radio station or entering gps coordinates either Aug 20 15:15:09 Y U SO STOOOOPIIDDD? Aug 20 15:15:10 forget about skipping a track on a cd Aug 20 15:15:13 not really Aug 20 15:15:14 shouldn't be typing into an sms either Aug 20 15:15:24 shades, my car has those ubttons on the steering wheel ;) Aug 20 15:15:29 for the radio Aug 20 15:15:31 and I think experts agree that distraction via radio is also common Aug 20 15:15:32 shouldn't be using them Aug 20 15:15:44 shades, just a thumb click, don't even have to look Aug 20 15:15:45 you are right shades Aug 20 15:15:45 if you can't text and drive you shouldn't be pushing any buttons Aug 20 15:15:46 but the time involved for an interaction is smaller than texting/gps'ing Aug 20 15:15:53 shades: considering most navigation units, when built into the car will lock you out of typing an address unless it's in park Aug 20 15:15:58 shouyldn;t even be turnign on the windsheild wipers Aug 20 15:16:05 no blinkers either Aug 20 15:16:07 sampson: by default, that can be hacked Aug 20 15:16:11 and certainly never use the brake pedal Aug 20 15:16:16 might be distracting Aug 20 15:16:17 precisely Aug 20 15:16:18 and typing a txt is far more mentally tasking than pushing "next" Aug 20 15:16:23 most people stare at their screens while typing , which is why it's so dangerous Aug 20 15:16:26 that's the worst reasoning possible Aug 20 15:16:31 the average person doesn't know how to text and drive properly Aug 20 15:16:39 i've been driving and texting for over half my life with no accidents Aug 20 15:16:47 good for you Aug 20 15:16:48 doesn't make it safe Aug 20 15:17:07 i've been drinking and driving for 11 years with no accident or duis Aug 20 15:17:09 doesn't make it unsafe Aug 20 15:17:28 I've been playing russian roulette every week for years, doesn't make it unsafe! Aug 20 15:17:35 just because 95%+ of people can't do it right, doesn't mean that everyone can't do it right Aug 20 15:17:43 (-_-) Aug 20 15:17:51 brb driving drunk Aug 20 15:17:54 and i'm not going to suffer at the handful or majority of dumbasses who can't handle it Aug 20 15:17:59 shades and they shoudln;t cater to you and your 5% Aug 20 15:18:06 driving drunk intoxicates you consistantly and constantly Aug 20 15:18:15 no it doesn't Aug 20 15:18:19 texting and driving doesn't impare you for more than a fraction of a second Aug 20 15:18:29 depends on the person Aug 20 15:18:32 kirksutton: yes, yes they should. Aug 20 15:18:36 shades: texting and driving is stupid. end of discussion Aug 20 15:18:39 nope Aug 20 15:18:51 i agree Tibfib Aug 20 15:19:09 texting and driving is stupid for stupid people ie the majority of them Aug 20 15:19:26 But you know, it's okay. It's just natural selection. Perhaps we won't have this problem in future generations. Aug 20 15:19:27 hmm, my office depot links from last night are turning up "not available for purchase" Aug 20 15:19:28 telling me i can't text and drive is like telling a man he can't have steak because a child can't chew Aug 20 15:19:30 I';m sure all of you never ever do anything that distracts you while driving Aug 20 15:19:31 ever Aug 20 15:19:34 but you are sounding real stupid right now Aug 20 15:19:43 shades: thinking you are above the rest of humanity is pretty stupid Aug 20 15:19:47 shades: that's a horrible arguement Aug 20 15:20:02 I didn't say the rest of humanity, i just said better than the average joe sixpack Aug 20 15:20:09 twbbas: why's that? because it's in my favor? Aug 20 15:20:30 thinking you are above the rules for everyone is stupid Aug 20 15:20:38 i've been doing it so long it's muscle memory, it doesn't even require much of any concious thought anymore so than speaking Aug 20 15:20:39 texting and driving half your life? are you like 10 and driving since 5? Aug 20 15:20:55 uh, I'm turning 28 this year Aug 20 15:21:12 trolololol Aug 20 15:21:39 you al lrealize that just carrying on a conversation drrastically reduces your response time in the car? Aug 20 15:21:40 i've been driving golfcarts and cars on private property from a very young age Aug 20 15:21:56 first time i sat behind a wheel was at 13 Aug 20 15:21:59 OH DANG GOLF CARTS Aug 20 15:22:03 THIS GUY IS A PRO! Aug 20 15:22:05 *and* cars Aug 20 15:22:32 whatever, I haven't been in a single accident while texting and driving Aug 20 15:22:32 GOLF CARTS MAKE THE BEST DRIVERS Aug 20 15:22:45 and i've been doing it for over a decade Aug 20 15:22:45 * helf sighs Aug 20 15:22:49 argue with results Aug 20 15:22:49 fuck this channel Aug 20 15:23:23 meh, I don't wanna go to walmart, but that seems like the best bet to get one at a B&M Aug 20 15:23:40 softkeyboards only make it more dangerous Aug 20 15:23:52 the store sucks, I don't really want to deal with a grumpy manager Aug 20 15:23:53 because now you have to look at the screen while typing instead of at the road Aug 20 15:24:17 shades: we are trying to stop talking about this Aug 20 15:24:24 so just stop, please. Aug 20 15:24:50 check order status @hp.com with order #/phone # finds no combination Aug 20 15:25:00 but signed in it shows being processed Aug 20 15:25:04 not having look find tp's anywhere Aug 20 15:25:10 could drive an hour for a chance at one Aug 20 15:25:11 :/ Aug 20 15:25:18 dwc- i think the're putting a halt on their database Aug 20 15:25:28 Tibfib: waste of gas probably Aug 20 15:25:36 lol you guys are still trying to purchase TPs Aug 20 15:25:38 yeah Aug 20 15:25:42 well if I knew it was showing up, I wouldn't bother stopping at a B&M anywhere Aug 20 15:25:52 you're more than likely to check your fone for tweet updates for #firesale and then risk just flipping u-turn with out any regard for who is on the road ;) Aug 20 15:26:16 akanster: bought 1 32 last night. would prefer to spend less and get the 16, I think Aug 20 15:26:38 akanster: did you get one? Aug 20 15:26:48 hence, still looking to get my hands on an actual one Aug 20 15:27:05 * akanster probably wont be getting any. Selling off my phones now. gitbubbing my work. I'm out Aug 20 15:27:25 selling off which fones Aug 20 15:27:42 just sold my pre2 Aug 20 15:27:43 how is that thread not on the slickdeals front page, and not a hot topic anymore Aug 20 15:27:46 dwc-: if it shows in processing your order is confirmed Aug 20 15:27:52 it's stuck in processing because they don't ship on weekends Aug 20 15:27:58 if it shows verifying then you need to worry Aug 20 15:28:03 sampson: I haven't gotten a confirmation email yet Aug 20 15:28:06 yeah i haven't either Aug 20 15:28:07 Tibfib: nope. you? Aug 20 15:28:13 i called like an hour ago to find out what was up Aug 20 15:28:16 that's what the guy told me Aug 20 15:28:18 akanster: nope Aug 20 15:28:24 guys, sams club's website has them in stock Aug 20 15:28:25 was only going to get one if I could find one locally Aug 20 15:28:30 link? Aug 20 15:28:48 but, the online sales are tempting Aug 20 15:28:49 http://www.samsclub.com/sams/search/searchResults.jsp?searchCategoryId=all&searchTerm=touchpad&fromHome=yes&_requestid=39860 Aug 20 15:29:04 Tibfib: People are having luck at Walmart Aug 20 15:29:06 you pay a 10% non-member fee (unless you're a member) Aug 20 15:29:08 "This item is out of stock for delivery" Aug 20 15:29:10 This item is out of stock for delivery Aug 20 15:29:11 shows OOS summatusmentis Aug 20 15:29:27 summatusmentis: "This item is out of stock for delivery" Aug 20 15:29:31 it shows 32GB in stock for me Aug 20 15:29:39 says "have it shipped" Aug 20 15:29:44 better grab it Aug 20 15:29:44 $149.00 Aug 20 15:29:44 Online Aug 20 15:29:45 This item is out of stock for delivery Aug 20 15:29:51 guess you got the last one! Aug 20 15:29:51 Tibfib: I just did Aug 20 15:29:55 nice Aug 20 15:30:13 no, it's still showing "have it shipped" for me Aug 20 15:30:13 had a choice to make the best of my sister's favor to keep my kids overnight last night or stand in line at officedepot. Aug 20 15:30:16 I wonder if it's regional Aug 20 15:30:26 ok, who wanted hookers? Aug 20 15:30:31 I did. Aug 20 15:30:31 so i may not get a TP for $99.. oh well Aug 20 15:30:54 haeffb: not i meant get me some coffee.. but a hooker will do i guess.. Aug 20 15:31:04 summatusmentis: Good luck on getting one. Aug 20 15:31:16 klausa: redhead or brunette? or mix n match? Aug 20 15:31:27 i wonder why some staples are selling them at $99 Aug 20 15:31:28 and some aren't Aug 20 15:31:29 klausa: my order went through, and I got a confirmation email Aug 20 15:31:32 Shit, that's a tough one. Aug 20 15:31:36 the one here was like THEY HAVE TO BE IN STOCK FOR US TO PRICEMATCH Aug 20 15:31:42 haeffb: I alwasy wanted to do a redhead. Aug 20 15:31:43 nice! Aug 20 15:31:50 heh, just called the local Walmart....I asked for electronics, the lady asked if I was looking for a Touchpad...said all sold out Aug 20 15:32:03 some follow their policy, and some employees don't? that was an easy one. Aug 20 15:32:18 ya but i want a touchpad now :( even though one's coming Aug 20 15:32:23 i can't wait 5-7 days i'm a man of instant gratification Aug 20 15:32:27 summatusmentis: Nice. Aug 20 15:32:29 the wally world here still has some, but no local competitors to pricematch Aug 20 15:32:35 I'm still waiting for confirmation on my HP one. Aug 20 15:32:42 RagingMind: the price is dropped in store too Aug 20 15:32:48 you can buy it through online even and pick up in store Aug 20 15:32:49 Well, my friends one, since I'm out ouf US. Aug 20 15:32:57 it hadn't yet here, but if it drops enough I'll pick one up Aug 20 15:32:59 "Inventory is Out Of Stock for Item Number: Unable to reserve inventory" for samsclub, it actually went all the way through to review order -_- Aug 20 15:33:06 klausa: i think their email system broke Aug 20 15:33:09 made me type in cc info for nothing Aug 20 15:33:24 sampson: I'm (He's) still on 'veryifing'. Aug 20 15:33:30 yeah that's not a good sign Aug 20 15:33:30 I'm hearing that's not a good sign. Aug 20 15:33:35 uh i just hit place order again and this time it went through... Aug 20 15:33:38 use a coupon code? Aug 20 15:33:59 rumor is hp wasn't going to allow coupon codes so they're probably canceling those Aug 20 15:34:07 called 3 Walmarts....all sold out Aug 20 15:34:20 my order status shows "This item has been initialized within the shipping group" Aug 20 15:34:28 hemna, do you know how much they were selling for? Aug 20 15:34:37 $149 32g Aug 20 15:34:43 I live in silicon valley... I bet some nocturnal geeks cleaned my area out by 2 hrs ago Aug 20 15:34:44 $99 for 16g Aug 20 15:34:44 summatusmentis: are you a sams club member? Aug 20 15:35:56 plov: no Aug 20 15:36:03 but they charge a 10% non-members fee Aug 20 15:36:07 kind of expensive Aug 20 15:36:16 summatusmentis: Yeah... Aug 20 15:36:19 Just bought 2 32GB for $150 at Sam's club site Aug 20 15:36:21 er Aug 20 15:36:22 hp is selling them for full price wtf Aug 20 15:36:23 sampson: * Aug 20 15:36:24 ended up being 188$ for me Aug 20 15:36:25 they are out of stock now Aug 20 15:36:47 summatusmentis: Can't you just quickly sign up for sam's club and avoid that 10% upcharge? Aug 20 15:36:55 sam's club membership isn't free Aug 20 15:36:59 a sams membership is $35/year Aug 20 15:37:00 Ah. Aug 20 15:37:08 samsclub website says out of stock Aug 20 15:37:19 I have one in cart. Aug 20 15:37:34 if you click the 32gb Aug 20 15:37:42 it'll say out of stock, but there's the add to cart button there still Aug 20 15:37:52 my order went through... Aug 20 15:38:04 but i dont know if it'll be cancelled since they may actually be out of stock Aug 20 15:38:06 plov link? Aug 20 15:38:06 not for me Aug 20 15:38:22 don't see the add to cart Aug 20 15:38:23 staples and touchpad are silent on twitter Aug 20 15:38:35 http://www.samsclub.com/sams/shop/product.jsp?productId=prod3900226&navAction= Aug 20 15:38:53 nope Aug 20 15:38:59 shows up now for me Aug 20 15:39:08 FF? Aug 20 15:39:12 i thought you had a microcenter lnk Aug 20 15:39:12 chrome Aug 20 15:39:18 dang...chrome here as well Aug 20 15:39:25 chrome here too Aug 20 15:39:41 not for me, ff3 or chrome Aug 20 15:40:30 fyi, ends up being 188 for me, tax+shipping+non-member Aug 20 15:40:48 yah Aug 20 15:40:58 that's what paid on the phone w/ HP Aug 20 15:41:09 $33 for tax, $6 for recycle fee??! Aug 20 15:41:11 last night right? Aug 20 15:41:17 yup Aug 20 15:42:20 boo for not being able to get another touchpad Aug 20 15:44:29 anyone manage to pick one up? Aug 20 15:44:40 HattCzech, last night Aug 20 15:45:33 http://twitter.com/#!/blam/status/104937823177682944 <- bwahaha Aug 20 15:46:03 :) Aug 20 15:47:31 RadioShack RadioShack Aug 20 15:47:31 just discovered this Aug 20 15:47:31 R u a multitasker? So is the HP TouchPad. The webOS platform makes switching between apps seamless. Check out more: shack.net/q6jfzN Aug 20 15:47:33 http://www.codecademy.com/#!/exercise/0 Aug 20 15:47:35 hahahaha Aug 20 15:47:39 20 hours ago Aug 20 15:47:48 good place to learn programming, if any of your kid is interested :) Aug 20 15:48:22 akanster lollllllllllll Aug 20 15:48:52 akanster: p much my night but s/wine/vodka/ Aug 20 15:49:00 heh Aug 20 15:52:31 calling every store in my state Aug 20 15:52:36 waiting on a call back from staples Aug 20 15:52:38 they said they have Aug 20 15:52:39 2 Aug 20 15:52:41 and are checking prices Aug 20 15:53:09 staples is very YMMV Aug 20 15:53:15 the one here refused to price match Aug 20 15:53:24 radioshack still full price Aug 20 15:53:30 same with staples Aug 20 15:53:33 thank you for the codeacademy link :D Aug 20 15:53:47 microcnenter has them in-stock at the web store, but at full price, meh Aug 20 15:53:49 radioshack doesnt pricematch competitors Aug 20 15:53:55 only themselves. Aug 20 15:54:05 I might try and see if my 9 year old son can do the codeacademy thing. I was just talking with him about teaching him coding last night @ dinner Aug 20 15:54:23 oh, but then youadd them and it's " 1. Removed items that are inactive or no longer valid." Aug 20 15:54:53 amazon still has them Aug 20 15:54:58 at full price? Aug 20 15:54:58 hope it helps hemna :) Aug 20 15:54:58 also full price Aug 20 15:55:06 well slightly discounted Aug 20 15:55:14 they will probably do a gradual sell off of them Aug 20 15:55:18 maybe I'll just go sit at officedepot Aug 20 15:55:30 better get there eary Aug 20 15:55:32 early Aug 20 15:55:34 BestBuy doesn't open until 10 Aug 20 15:55:36 officedepot is your best bet Aug 20 15:55:36 I wish I knew what would happen with these loaners Aug 20 15:55:37 my office depot was swamped Aug 20 15:55:38 best buy isn't selling them Aug 20 15:55:41 and what they expect us to pay now Aug 20 15:55:50 otherwise I would drive to a walmart Aug 20 15:55:51 I called BB last night and they didn't know squat about the price reduction Aug 20 15:55:56 oh shit, they open at 9, not 10 Aug 20 15:55:57 BB is not doing it Aug 20 15:56:03 :( Aug 20 15:56:03 it's all over twitter Aug 20 15:56:04 staples isn't calling Aug 20 15:56:05 Best Buy is supposed to stop selling them Aug 20 15:56:09 and send them back to hp Aug 20 15:56:09 staples isn't calling me back :( Aug 20 15:56:17 BB has like 250k of them Aug 20 15:56:17 bestbuy is stopping selling them Aug 20 15:56:19 guess I should leave now ... won't make it before they open though Aug 20 15:56:21 I called 2 stores Aug 20 15:56:29 dwc. dont bother then Aug 20 15:56:31 u r too late Aug 20 15:56:46 all my local stores were cleared out this morning Aug 20 15:56:52 BB is sending them back to HP :( Aug 20 15:57:02 here too. Aug 20 15:57:09 sold out by 9:03 Aug 20 15:57:10 lets hope that hp selling those again after they got their 250k back Aug 20 15:57:12 well, HP will sell them online then :P Aug 20 15:57:28 * hemna wonders how many Pre3's HP is sitting on Aug 20 15:57:29 now we have a flood of touchpads on ebay Aug 20 15:57:35 http://www.bgr.com/2011/08/20/no-hp-youre-off-the-mark/ Aug 20 15:57:54 Leo really shit the bed with this decision Aug 20 15:58:43 if you believe in conspiracy theory...this might be the smartest method to get TP out to as many people as they can :P Aug 20 15:58:46 hah Aug 20 15:58:50 they're listing the 16gb at $225 Aug 20 15:58:51 gtfo Aug 20 16:00:09 From the BGR link -- "To make matters worse, you’re now financing a fire sale on TouchPads and further tarnishing your brand in an attempt to shove dead-end devices into consumers’ hands just so you get some nominal return. Shame on you." Aug 20 16:00:49 I tend to agree with that article Aug 20 16:01:15 as do i, but i very much like a $100 web browser/email client heh Aug 20 16:01:21 I don't see how WebOS is a viable option moving forward for anything other than some niche environment that no one gives a rats ass about Aug 20 16:01:21 the mbp can get so hot :( Aug 20 16:01:31 it always was a niche environment Aug 20 16:01:47 well....even more niche than cell phone/tablet Aug 20 16:01:54 who the hell cares what interface a printer has Aug 20 16:01:56 no one Aug 20 16:02:05 i think the idea was NFC + webos on everything Aug 20 16:02:11 but the new ceo is a moron sooo Aug 20 16:02:17 yup Aug 20 16:02:20 Leo is a douche Aug 20 16:03:00 in the same breath as killing a $1.2bn purchase, he buys another company for $10bn that only makes $500mn in profit a year....which will take 20 years to recover Aug 20 16:03:03 idiot Aug 20 16:03:19 I cant wait until my itanium server has a card view into managing my memory utilization Aug 20 16:03:21 just awesome Aug 20 16:03:23 wait Aug 20 16:03:24 .... Aug 20 16:03:27 why would that matter Aug 20 16:03:29 but phew! look at all the money we saved by killing webos devices! Aug 20 16:03:44 "Proudly present to you our brand new webOS powered printers" Aug 20 16:04:13 yes, I need to build a fart app that lets you print the brown notes Aug 20 16:04:20 heck, you could install games on your printer and have a go at it when you're bored at work Aug 20 16:04:20 I'd buy that. Aug 20 16:04:34 Black Faxes? There's an app for that. Aug 20 16:04:40 or all the p's and f's in the order to make the sound Aug 20 16:05:04 webOS printers preloaded with angry bird, Angry Printer Aug 20 16:05:10 Brown Faxes... Black Faxes are in the adult section of the app store Aug 20 16:05:24 the evil paper companies took our toner Aug 20 16:05:29 now we launch printers at them Aug 20 16:05:39 lol Aug 20 16:05:51 :) Aug 20 16:06:11 i wonder when will those prices in ebay adjust Aug 20 16:06:17 now they're ridiculously high Aug 20 16:06:24 http://www.theglobeandmail.com/globe-investor/put-it-on-paper-domtar-ads-urge/article1547297/ says it all... Aug 20 16:06:39 ("Print more! It's good for the environment!") Aug 20 16:06:44 I bet they'll come down in a month or so Aug 20 16:07:39 i'm certainly fine with a 99 dollar webos 3.x Aug 20 16:08:27 http://www.neowin.net/news/microsoft-offers-all-webos-devs-support-free-windows-phones?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+neowin-main+%28Neowin+Main+News%29 Aug 20 16:09:07 I wouldn't even take a free windows phone from M$ Aug 20 16:09:09 no thanks Aug 20 16:10:00 I'm surprised that they never incorporated a mini printer (a la Polaroid/Zink), for those impromptu "document/photo sharing" moments. :) Aug 20 16:10:52 (It'd give them the ability to sell more ink, and even more fragile devices, too). Aug 20 16:12:41 why Aug 20 16:12:45 They are decent devices Aug 20 16:12:51 It's HP, after all. Aug 20 16:13:02 oh I mean the windows phone 7 devs Aug 20 16:13:09 Aah Aug 20 16:13:17 I said they should have incorporated an office jet mini Aug 20 16:13:23 or even touch to print Aug 20 16:13:30 the possabilities were great Aug 20 16:13:42 Tablet with integrated flatbed scanner! Aug 20 16:13:47 I feel they should keep selling the touchpad at a loss to bolster the user base Aug 20 16:13:50 and help secure a license Aug 20 16:13:57 Now *that* would sell like hot-cakes, probably. Aug 20 16:14:47 though wireless printing worked pretty well Aug 20 16:15:32 Wireless printing's strange. Lots of mobile OSes support it, but I've never actually seen anyone use it. Aug 20 16:16:29 (e.g. My S60 handset supports printing via Bluetooth - although I've never used it). Aug 20 16:19:04 I love it on my iphone Aug 20 16:19:07 I'm sure that my old SEMC C510 supported PictBridge, too. Aug 20 16:19:13 actually thats why I dropped my pre2 in March Aug 20 16:19:20 I think that is what got me the most Aug 20 16:19:33 The touchpad had decent printing as well Aug 20 16:19:35 (Or at least a PTP/MTP implementation that works with some printers). Aug 20 16:19:57 the eprint though is a joke Aug 20 16:20:08 i always knew HP is dickhead Aug 20 16:20:12 it sends an email to an hp server that takes forever to process and sends it to your printer Aug 20 16:20:18 takes 10 minutes to print a photo Aug 20 16:20:31 Overkill. Aug 20 16:20:37 infact I think their eprint business is a fail as well Aug 20 16:20:48 its good in thought Aug 20 16:20:53 but implementation was bad Aug 20 16:21:18 If you have to traverse the Internet to transfer data between two devices in proximity, then you're doing something horribly wrong, in my humble opinion. Aug 20 16:21:29 will samsung consider buying webos, instead of focusing on bada? Aug 20 16:23:08 http://www.webosroundup.com/2011/08/breaking-hp-crediting-fire-sale-difference-to-current-touchpad-owners/ Aug 20 16:23:09 wow Aug 20 16:23:14 they really dont care about money do they Aug 20 16:23:22 morning people Aug 20 16:23:26 good for us, bad for them tho Aug 20 16:23:33 dawm - this could be a ploy to find a new suitor Aug 20 16:23:42 get the touchpads out and get people to use them Aug 20 16:23:54 use them they will Aug 20 16:23:55 then they could keep selling wifi pads for q4 Aug 20 16:24:05 at cost Aug 20 16:24:13 these should be assumed to sell at cost Aug 20 16:24:16 from hp Aug 20 16:24:18 they should have done the 99 from the get go, flood the market then after a month or so bring it back up Aug 20 16:24:24 isnt that what att did with the iphone? Aug 20 16:24:29 the key here, is get users Aug 20 16:24:37 its below cost now Aug 20 16:24:42 eh Aug 20 16:24:46 wasnt it $300~ to build Aug 20 16:24:48 i doubt its that thought out Aug 20 16:24:49 then if they can install a large user base they can either sell or license to someone else Aug 20 16:25:07 look at bestbuy refusing to even sell them Aug 20 16:25:09 HP's scale allows them to purchase things under cost Aug 20 16:25:13 you can tell it just happened, etc. Aug 20 16:25:19 ifixit and what not go buy advertised bulk costs Aug 20 16:25:49 when you order 2 million chipsets, usually you get a better discount. Aug 20 16:26:23 I am guessing they are selling at cost, +/- 20 on both Aug 20 16:26:31 bestbuy paid 200 per unit I guess Aug 20 16:26:36 what will happen if hp sell all webos devices? Aug 20 16:26:42 why would they sell so cheap Aug 20 16:26:50 http://forums.precentral.net/hp-touchpad/292387-click-quickly-hp-site-good-laugh.html Aug 20 16:26:54 did you guys see that Aug 20 16:26:55 then unless they keep making something, its all over Aug 20 16:27:12 someone at HP hacked the videos on the site Aug 20 16:27:24 hacked / pulled a prank Aug 20 16:27:24 they still can create a decent userbase Aug 20 16:27:40 yes they can create a good userbase Aug 20 16:28:08 office depot is all sold out Aug 20 16:28:16 or rather, that's what the guy said Aug 20 16:28:17 now they have a chance to replace android Aug 20 16:28:31 sold out at 3am Aug 20 16:28:36 I guess they have a ship to store or something Aug 20 16:28:46 I am trying to get a response from vienna channels on the price of their developer devices Aug 20 16:28:56 I am hoping that they dropped the price with HP Aug 20 16:29:13 otherwise looks like I am paying the price I took it for Aug 20 16:29:18 luckily it was new Aug 20 16:29:27 * haeffb going to watch Milla Jovovich Aug 20 16:30:49 instead of coding webOS Aug 20 16:32:23 haha? Aug 20 16:32:30 hp phone line is closed Aug 20 16:32:56 i just tried calling, 'we're currently closed, our hours are... sat 9pm to 6pm' Aug 20 16:32:57 is it? Aug 20 16:33:04 9am* Aug 20 16:33:17 lol Aug 20 16:33:43 fxspec06: lol Aug 20 16:34:00 well i tried a different sales option and its going through Aug 20 16:34:01 that video is gold! Aug 20 16:34:17 http://shopping1.hp.com/is-bin/INTERSHOP.enfinity/WFS/WW-USSMBPublicStore-Site/en_US/-/USD/ViewProductDetail-Start?ProductUUID=hH0Q7EN5nJ8AAAEvWNkr_eNP&CatalogCategoryID=UZYQ7hac3LsAAAExQ1cRE3Kg&JumpTo=OfferList#ProductLinkCrossSelling Aug 20 16:34:22 interesting no? Aug 20 16:34:23 wow, estimated hold time.. 1 hour.. Aug 20 16:34:50 wtf Aug 20 16:34:51 could not get a touchpad any where Aug 20 16:34:52 https://developer.palm.com/distribution/viewtopic.php?p=88350#p88350 Aug 20 16:35:37 leiru: uhhh that's bad Aug 20 16:36:17 all of my friends are ordering $99 touchpads Aug 20 16:36:49 leiru: whoa Aug 20 16:36:56 all cheap tps Aug 20 16:37:01 still? from where? Aug 20 16:37:02 gone Aug 20 16:37:06 ? Aug 20 16:37:16 the link i've posted just now Aug 20 16:37:25 however i cant get to cart for some odd reason Aug 20 16:37:29 ah well Aug 20 16:37:35 CYeong_: because it's being hammered Aug 20 16:38:02 yeah probably.. Aug 20 16:38:20 no because im looking at the usual channels Aug 20 16:38:24 walmart got wiped out within 4 mins, i'm not terribly surprised that they are being hammered Aug 20 16:38:32 and they're now publicly talking about the small business store Aug 20 16:39:05 theyre telling people to order it at full price at the small business store and call in to get price adjustment Aug 20 16:39:31 So has this place filled up with noobs yet? Aug 20 16:39:39 now that yo'ure here, yes, we're full ;) Aug 20 16:39:55 woohoo! Aug 20 16:40:08 so what are you developers going to do ? Aug 20 16:40:20 Die. Aug 20 16:40:31 Starve a little bit first, but then - die. Aug 20 16:40:35 I'm just biding my time to see if someone gets android running on it. until then I'll play a bit. Aug 20 16:41:17 oh weird. I added it at 99, and it was in the cart at 99, now it's in the cart at 499 Aug 20 16:41:28 europe wants the cheap touchpads as well Aug 20 16:42:07 GRAH Aug 20 16:42:12 graaaaah Aug 20 16:42:18 stupid staples Aug 20 16:42:23 hm, veer and pre2 still showing full price in the small biz store Aug 20 16:42:26 dwc-: it's been like that for a couple of hours Aug 20 16:42:31 put me on hold and sold both of them! Aug 20 16:42:33 shoot Aug 20 16:42:59 word is staples stores are not being told to sell.. Aug 20 16:43:08 i want $49 pre3 Aug 20 16:43:12 o.O dwc you getting one? mind getting one more for me?(@99 that is) Aug 20 16:43:13 the guy at office max told me i can get it at full price then get a price match within 14 days i Aug 20 16:43:22 yeah me too onr...but is it even coming out? Aug 20 16:43:31 staples here refused when they opened Aug 20 16:43:38 called back on a whim for the hell of it and they're sold out now :| Aug 20 16:43:57 oops now* being told to sell Aug 20 16:44:00 CYeong_: it seems hp has an idea to enlarge webos userbase to be next android Aug 20 16:44:13 sampson: that really sucks sampson Aug 20 16:44:18 when I got into officedepot, they said they were sold out, the guy was telling his cashier to tell everyone who calls they're sold out, and that there was a communication from corporate for her to read. Aug 20 16:44:34 lol Aug 20 16:44:49 plov: i got one online Aug 20 16:44:50 so not too pissed Aug 20 16:44:55 from hp? Aug 20 16:44:58 ya Aug 20 16:45:13 ya'll are greedy lol Aug 20 16:45:22 well my coworkers couldn't find one Aug 20 16:45:31 i'm still trying to get 1, and you guys are all like man i couldnt get my 3rd! Aug 20 16:45:32 so i figured i'd get one so i can play now and sell my hp one to them at the price i paid Aug 20 16:45:47 alas Aug 20 16:46:00 I wonder if devrel has any they can get me for free Aug 20 16:46:06 that would be nice Aug 20 16:47:01 what i dont understand is this... office max was at full price, refreshed, item has been discountinued, and shows 99$ Aug 20 16:47:16 why change the pricing if they're discontinuing an item / not going to sell it? Aug 20 16:47:32 officemax didn't do the firesale Aug 20 16:47:37 probably to fuck over returns Aug 20 16:47:46 no receipt? sorry, you get lowest price we offered. oh you get $99 Aug 20 16:48:20 office max is super slow now haha Aug 20 16:50:31 Week In Review. Google: F**k You Partners HP: F**k You All Apple: F**k You Exxon MSFT: Hey Everyone Look at Me Aug 20 16:50:50 http://twitter.com/#!/tapbot_paul/status/104950667621302272 Aug 20 16:51:46 brb Aug 20 16:52:40 man news spreads fast Aug 20 16:52:59 apparently officemax was selling it at that price... sold out in like 8 mins Aug 20 16:53:26 the one here refused to sell them at all Aug 20 16:53:31 haeffb: you see this - https://developer.palm.com/distribution/viewtopic.php?p=88350#p88350 Aug 20 16:53:38 http://twitter.com/#!/Adora/status/104946228202184704 Aug 20 16:53:59 akanster: yep Aug 20 16:56:39 how many touchpads did hp produce? Aug 20 16:56:51 5 Aug 20 16:56:58 judging from store stock Aug 20 16:58:00 We DDOS'ed office max? Aug 20 16:59:04 i went to officemax this morning and they said they had to pull them Aug 20 16:59:09 so i just called them and they're already sold out Aug 20 16:59:11 dicks Aug 20 16:59:31 my local office depot only has the Demo unit Aug 20 16:59:34 they wouldn't sell it Aug 20 16:59:47 went to 3 diff walmarts and I found the last in all my county apparently Aug 20 16:59:57 i ws at office max and could have got it Aug 20 17:00:01 bnceo`: when I got into officedepot, they said they were sold out at 3am, the guy was telling his cashier to tell everyone who calls they're sold out, and that there was a communication from corporate for her to read about it Aug 20 17:00:08 but it was full price now the price dropped Aug 20 17:00:29 how do you sell out when the store is closed? Aug 20 17:00:41 does office depot do ship to store? Aug 20 17:01:58 so there is no place left to get the touchpad? Aug 20 17:02:06 ah yes they do let you pick up Aug 20 17:02:10 HP should just continue making more and more touchpads, and sell them all at $99 and $149 Aug 20 17:02:19 they could get 50 million users that way Aug 20 17:02:39 and write off a $10b loss? sure Aug 20 17:03:06 and down goes officemax's website Aug 20 17:03:28 websites everywhere are down, people lining up to buy touchpads and sold out everywhere Aug 20 17:03:39 it's like black friday for webos Aug 20 17:03:46 glad i decided to stay home last night and get drunk :D Aug 20 17:03:54 lol, good choice Aug 20 17:04:07 Deihmos: you might try the small biz store and hope for a price adjustment Aug 20 17:04:19 it seems intermittently at 99 when you add and 399 in the cart Aug 20 17:05:09 not too sure about that one Aug 20 17:05:45 you could try phoning the order over hp's system but they're severely backlogged Aug 20 17:05:55 i had to wait like 30 minutes on hold to verify if my order was good Aug 20 17:06:13 is it reasonable to wait good news from samsung? Aug 20 17:08:08 phone order? I thought they were out of stock Aug 20 17:08:35 well they list in stock but full price at the moment Aug 20 17:09:08 small biz shows me them at 99 and when I add to the cart at 99, but when I check out, full price Aug 20 17:09:27 best buy completely removed the touchpad from their website. when I was at the store they were taking down everything for it Aug 20 17:10:10 if I went to staples I would have got one Aug 20 17:10:18 I went to best buy. so dumb Aug 20 17:10:18 50/50 Aug 20 17:10:24 i went to staples and they refused to sell it Aug 20 17:10:29 then they decided to later.. jerks Aug 20 17:10:35 same with office max Aug 20 17:15:13 haha what? Aug 20 17:15:16 recall notice? Aug 20 17:15:20 way to go bestbuy Aug 20 17:15:39 staples and walmart seem to the the local best bets Aug 20 17:15:51 bestbuy always sucked Aug 20 17:16:30 worstbuy Aug 20 17:21:12 summatusmentis: What's with your order? Aug 20 17:25:42 +1 home schooling ;) Aug 20 17:26:22 so is anyone else hoping that all these new webOS users might give the OS a last chance? Aug 20 17:28:22 bestbuy is probably better about the whole thing and they shoudl be Aug 20 17:28:27 bitter Aug 20 17:28:35 garbs: yes Aug 20 17:29:12 i definitely bought a touchpad, even though i returned my other one yesterday Aug 20 17:29:16 for 100 bucks its worth every penny Aug 20 17:29:30 I bought it on newegg at full price. I called newegg and they alreayd submit to management about the price change Aug 20 17:29:33 if it ends up having even a little future, thats just a bonus Aug 20 17:29:43 garbs: I think so Aug 20 17:29:47 I'm excited to see app sales Aug 20 17:30:05 i personally spent about 40 bucks in apps in the 2 weeks i had mine Aug 20 17:30:10 it'll be nice to be able to use those again Aug 20 17:30:13 lol Aug 20 17:30:39 nomnomnom Aug 20 17:31:06 even though HP clearly lost a ton of money on hardware here, i'm hoping that if they truly do intend to license webos, the number of new users definitely cant hurt Aug 20 17:31:21 who is going to license webos Aug 20 17:31:25 seriously Aug 20 17:31:42 depends if this is able to do anything to increase mindhsare :\ Aug 20 17:31:48 likely nobody though Aug 20 17:32:27 maybe Kyocera Aug 20 17:32:39 meh, not good enough Aug 20 17:32:55 honestly, HP should just give webos away and keep taking 30% cut on apps Aug 20 17:33:20 they said something that t cannot run on a lot of devices Aug 20 17:33:30 ? Aug 20 17:34:04 HP said that webos was designed to run on certain chipset Aug 20 17:34:40 Sure it was. Aug 20 17:34:51 umm Aug 20 17:34:54 it runs in the emulator Aug 20 17:34:57 which is x86 Aug 20 17:35:00 derp Aug 20 17:35:15 But do you think if some company has enough money to license it, they won't have enough money for engineers to adjust it? Aug 20 17:35:58 DERPPPPP Aug 20 17:36:46 i'm gonna make a new app, and call it DERPPPP Aug 20 17:36:53 HERP Aug 20 17:37:51 i just don't see why any company would want to pay a license fee for webos Aug 20 17:38:03 its a differentiating factor Aug 20 17:38:05 when you can use Android that has an app for almost everything Aug 20 17:38:08 this fire sale may change things Aug 20 17:38:23 for better or worse. Aug 20 17:38:30 still can't edit docs on webos and a pile of things you cannot do Aug 20 17:38:35 http://dl.dropbox.com/u/355809/sd.jpg Aug 20 17:38:38 yep Aug 20 17:38:49 ^ whoever got that many, what a doooooo Aug 20 17:38:51 O_o plov Aug 20 17:38:56 most likely: Android's patent encumberance. The motorola thing helps, but also means you have the OS maker being a competitor in hardware, despite their assurances Aug 20 17:39:02 Tibfib_: right now, for the better Aug 20 17:39:10 the future is still undetermined Aug 20 17:39:11 i must be the only one that just bought one Aug 20 17:39:13 still doesn't mean Google doesn't lose bigtime in the Oracle lawsuit, too Aug 20 17:40:09 plov: inexpensive stocking stuffers? Aug 20 17:40:12 but i think all devs who've got TP apps will see a big boost in sales for next few months at least. Aug 20 17:40:22 dont be 100% sure Aug 20 17:40:30 there are a lot of cheap people that bought these Aug 20 17:40:53 this is what HP said - webOS is designed to work on a single set of silicon — Qualcomm — and that many potential licensees would likely want to see webOS support other chipsets. Aug 20 17:40:54 who here got their $99 touchpad? Aug 20 17:41:04 when the amount of users mutliplies by 5....... app sales will go up Aug 20 17:41:13 cheap or not Aug 20 17:41:14 * garbs raises hand Aug 20 17:41:17 actually 92 dollars Aug 20 17:41:23 I cant find one anywhere Aug 20 17:41:30 if anyone here got a few id love to buy one from you. Aug 20 17:41:30 you're too late to the game for now Aug 20 17:41:32 fxspec06: exactly Aug 20 17:41:56 yeah, anyone actually have a place online that's not sold out? Aug 20 17:41:57 they'll definitely go up Aug 20 17:42:05 nope, all sold out for now Aug 20 17:42:11 I think local is the only way to go Aug 20 17:42:14 everyone is waiting to see if amazon lowers price Aug 20 17:42:23 Ill probably have to check craigslist. Aug 20 17:42:25 funkatron: are you gonna complain to hp and get the firesale difference refunded? Aug 20 17:42:26 right Aug 20 17:42:28 ah yeah Aug 20 17:42:34 for the dev devices Aug 20 17:42:36 Tibfib_: no, buying one for a friend who asked Aug 20 17:42:47 hp.com sm biz, but you'll probably have to call later for a price adjustment Aug 20 17:43:04 funkatron: http://www.webosroundup.com/2011/08/breaking-hp-crediting-fire-sale-difference-to-current-touchpad-owners/ Aug 20 17:43:15 i saw that. extremely cool Aug 20 17:43:32 there are a ton on ebay now. Aug 20 17:43:42 I'm sure that will happen for devs as well then Aug 20 17:45:13 wow, so I may be able to keep my loaner 32gb for 150*(3/4) at most then, right? Aug 20 17:45:42 nifty Aug 20 17:47:13 well, at least for one day, everyone wanted an hp touchpad. Aug 20 17:47:26 two days ;) Aug 20 17:47:36 I wanted one since when it dropped to $299. Aug 20 17:47:57 But I said to myself I don't need it and should spend this money better. Aug 20 17:47:58 ive been following slickdeals for a long time and this has to be the biggest thread ive seen Aug 20 17:48:03 Then, yeah, well, this happened. Aug 20 17:48:06 so did I, but I wouldn't have paid $300 for one after they dropped hardware Aug 20 17:48:34 Yup. Aug 20 17:49:03 so I might be paying less, but I'm probably getting less value as well Aug 20 17:49:09 http://gim.ie/o1B Aug 20 17:49:21 i hope someone ports firefox or makes a new webkit browser Aug 20 17:50:07 there's already a firefox port Aug 20 17:50:15 its not ready yet, no? Aug 20 17:50:31 and really, I would prefer they fix webkit bugs instead of making the UI part of the browser better :x Aug 20 17:50:45 same Aug 20 17:50:49 the bugs are bad Aug 20 17:50:57 but i doubt we'll ever see another update Aug 20 17:52:02 so no where to find them eh? Aug 20 17:52:07 i'd bet you're wrong garbs Aug 20 17:52:20 what makes you think you'll never see another update? Aug 20 17:52:23 time will tell i suppose Aug 20 17:52:30 fxspec06: no support Aug 20 17:52:40 fxspec06: you honestly expect future updates? Aug 20 17:52:46 yes, i do Aug 20 17:52:47 Incredulous! Aug 20 17:52:53 lol Aug 20 17:53:07 I kind of expect them too. Aug 20 17:53:09 lol you'll be expecting them a while Aug 20 17:53:20 i wish there was more competition in terms of choice Aug 20 17:53:21 at most, I expect one update... whatever they've got in the pipeline already. Aug 20 17:53:23 now it's like, android or ifail Aug 20 17:53:34 I mean - I won't be surprised if there won't be any, but I wouldn't be surprised if there will be. Aug 20 17:53:36 and the more people that jump onto something, the shittier it gets Aug 20 17:53:44 really, what will you do? switch to android? Aug 20 17:53:45 i think the only chance of an update is if HP does continue to keep with webos and release some sort of manual update Aug 20 17:53:46 so the quality of both the remaining choices is going to degrade Aug 20 17:53:49 i expect they will continue to work on developing the webos software, exactly like they said. that means updates, updates, UDPATES Aug 20 17:53:53 onr that's relaly the only other option Aug 20 17:53:58 if webos doesn't get open sourced Aug 20 17:54:04 fxspec06: how many update, updates, updates have you seen for devices lately? Aug 20 17:54:25 i just got 2.1 build 124 on my vzw pre 2 Aug 20 17:54:30 i think they are just saying that so people will buy the last of the devices Aug 20 17:54:40 it aint much, but it's an update Aug 20 17:54:44 DaDirtyPanda: +1000 Aug 20 17:54:49 uh-huh, ok I had that update on my developer pre2 in like march Aug 20 17:55:07 march is like, months ago Aug 20 17:55:10 so... figure 6 months after the rest of the pre2's get an update for you Aug 20 17:55:12 I don't give a shit about updates, actually. Aug 20 17:55:19 I mean - not at that price. Aug 20 17:55:28 klausa: that's the attitude to take Aug 20 17:55:38 It have browser, it have facebook, twittter, there's a way to hack ssh to it. Aug 20 17:55:42 if it comes, awesome. But don't expect it Aug 20 17:55:49 I'm not expecting any for the touchpad I've ordered Aug 20 17:55:55 lol, neither do i really. but i do believe they will Aug 20 17:56:04 It's not like there are any apps on android tablets. Aug 20 17:57:13 Just to clear something up - they don't have GPS, don't they? Aug 20 17:57:15 when was the last time honeycomb was updated? or gingerbread? just curious Aug 20 17:57:36 fxspec06: I got update for my phone to gingerbread two weeks ago. Aug 20 17:57:48 well people had that last year on phones Aug 20 17:57:59 so i don't see how that's very much different from webos Aug 20 17:57:59 Yeah, HTC Sense. Aug 20 17:58:14 minus the crushing it in sales part Aug 20 17:59:21 * fxspec06 has a 32gb scheduled for delivery by end of day monday! Aug 20 17:59:28 omg so excited Aug 20 18:00:18 now the question is, how much percent of touchpad owners install android on their devices? Aug 20 18:00:29 klausa: no gps in touchpads Aug 20 18:02:54 You can install Android on a TouchPad? Aug 20 18:03:20 not yet, but people are working on it right now Aug 20 18:04:08 I wouldn't mind being able to dual-boot Aug 20 18:04:22 got the latest the thing is android is areay really stable and fast. Aug 20 18:04:40 Deihmos: Do you get access to apps? Aug 20 18:04:41 the thing is android is already stable and fast with tons of apps Aug 20 18:04:50 Market apps? Aug 20 18:05:09 I would only flash android on it if there would be easy way to reverse it. Aug 20 18:05:28 If I never get another android update i would be fine. the phone does everything i need it to do Aug 20 18:07:08 nice post by YankBoy -- http://forums.precentral.net/webos-discussion/292206-i-still-believe.html Aug 20 18:07:14 https://twitter.com/#!/search?q=%23touchdroid Aug 20 18:08:50 lol http://twitter.com/?q=touchdroid#!/agentdero/status/104341787035971584 Aug 20 18:10:29 twbbas: that would be awesome actually, and quite useful Aug 20 18:10:40 i would be able to dev on both platforms at once! Aug 20 18:13:45 ^ Aug 20 18:13:47 yep Aug 20 18:13:53 I'm looking into Android and WP7 for dev'ing Aug 20 18:14:01 I signed up for a 2 day live event Aug 20 18:14:14 It's like 8 hrs both days teaching my the basics of programming WP7 apps Aug 20 18:15:16 sounds cool. Aug 20 18:15:32 ow. ios or android or wp7? Aug 20 18:16:38 I'm thinking about doing all 3 Aug 20 18:19:50 twbbas: where did you sign up for that? Aug 20 18:20:20 Tibfib_: https://twitter.com/#!/BrandonWatson/status/104948858181779458 Aug 20 18:22:20 twbbas: :/ bad timing on event Aug 20 18:22:31 oh wait Aug 20 18:22:33 I can be there tues Aug 20 18:22:46 I may use PhoneGap Build for iOS and Android, SDK for WP7, and Enyo for webOS Aug 20 18:22:50 Tibfib_: sweet Aug 20 18:23:42 bbl Aug 20 18:24:10 phonegap is low performance Aug 20 18:24:41 onr: You've used PhoneGap Build? Aug 20 18:26:09 twbbas: no Aug 20 18:28:11 yo mattsmcnulty Aug 20 18:28:15 yo Aug 20 18:28:20 This sucks. Aug 20 18:28:41 Feel bad for you guys. Aug 20 18:28:44 indeed. Though I went to the grocery store this am, and there is a Office Depot there, and it was just before it opened, and there were 27 ppl in line Aug 20 18:29:49 There were 4 people in line at the Staples I went to. The manager didn't cut the prices and wouldn't offer a price match. They had 5 in stock. Aug 20 18:30:33 I'm mourning by flashing and playing with now never-to-be-released products Aug 20 18:30:44 O.o Aug 20 18:30:53 Stingray? :o Aug 20 18:31:09 * haeffb looking forward to hearing the stories. Aug 20 18:31:12 no comment. I've got a question in about when we will be allowed to discuss, but it will likely be at least a few weeks Aug 20 18:31:21 gotcha Aug 20 18:31:23 anyone know of big us retailers that are selling the touchpads at $99? Aug 20 18:31:32 I hope HP offers devs the returned touchpads from retailers Aug 20 18:31:48 scottj: I heard some Sam's Club stores have them in stock still Aug 20 18:32:10 scottj, ive been looking since last night. Aug 20 18:34:45 I have an order in on HP.com for a $500 32GB TouchPad and an order in on Sam's Club for 2 $150 32GB TPs Aug 20 18:34:51 interesting........ Aug 20 18:35:12 If you are in the bay area the store on palm campus monday will likely have plenty of stock. That's what they told us Aug 20 18:35:27 nice tip. I live in Michigan though :( Aug 20 18:35:50 madnificent: do you think, the fire sales will aririve in europe? and when do you expect, if you? Aug 20 18:36:04 anyone know if there are TP's for devs from HP dev relations? Aug 20 18:36:19 Codhisattva: I've heard the dev discount hasn't changed price yet Aug 20 18:36:56 mattsmcnulty: discounts on accessories too? Aug 20 18:37:06 dwc-: no idea Aug 20 18:38:32 thanks for the tip... might have to make the trip down maude in the morning Aug 20 18:38:50 I would love some cheap touchstones. I really would. Aug 20 18:39:05 In enyo, how can you call a function after the app's card fully launches? ready() and create() don't seem to do that. Aug 20 18:39:15 They are calling too early Aug 20 18:40:09 i think HP will kill webos too Aug 20 18:41:13 lol hp's website is giving out of memory errors. Aug 20 18:42:04 maybe webOS will get open sourced Aug 20 18:42:08 or maybe Samsung will buy it Aug 20 18:42:31 HP certainly isn't the right place for it to live that's for sure. Aug 20 18:42:57 HP wants to be 100% services and enterprise products. aka IBM-lite. Aug 20 18:44:09 they didnt have to announce "palm is failure" to sell touchpads for $99 and make webos impressive for samsung Aug 20 18:44:57 hahah Aug 20 18:44:58 true Aug 20 18:46:27 * funkatron hfives mattsmcnulty Aug 20 18:46:28 bro Aug 20 18:46:57 bro Aug 20 18:47:00 seems that _alot_ great people moving to WP7 while accepting BrandonWatson's offer Aug 20 18:47:03 liked the blog post Aug 20 18:47:06 thx man Aug 20 18:47:26 and devrels... https://twitter.com/#!/BrandonWatson/status/104775932547567617 Aug 20 18:47:52 i personally think about iOS (phonegap+Jo) Aug 20 18:47:56 that seems tacky to mention. Aug 20 18:47:57 A Palm dev relations person sent me an email asking for a job. Aug 20 18:47:58 lol Aug 20 18:48:26 leiru: I'm thinking PhoneGap Build for iOS + Android, SDK for WP7, and Enyo for webOS Aug 20 18:48:29 leiru: phone gap is pretty rough Aug 20 18:48:31 So far we've only worked on webOS Aug 20 18:48:34 just go Native Aug 20 18:48:44 http://www.bgr.com/2011/08/20/no-hp-youre-off-the-mark/ 8 ( Aug 20 18:48:51 Codhisattva: Have you tried PhoneGap Build? Aug 20 18:48:51 I'm listening to the thisismynext podcast Aug 20 18:49:21 twbbas: no. I bailed on that very early when it was clear that it was low quality Aug 20 18:49:32 hmm Aug 20 18:49:39 so how many people have a touchpad now? Aug 20 18:49:59 try things for yourself, twbbas. Everybody has an opinion. that doesn't make it fact. Aug 20 18:50:12 especially with dev tools Aug 20 18:50:22 funkatron: Good advice. Aug 20 18:50:41 rz950: The only # I've heard was that 300k were sold today Aug 20 18:50:46 But I doubt that many were sold Aug 20 18:50:55 well, tigerdirect has some in stock Aug 20 18:50:57 I heard it from just someone speculating Aug 20 18:51:02 but they aren't doing the price matching :( Aug 20 18:51:19 mattsmcnulty: does the palm campus store by chance have developer pre2s? Aug 20 18:51:35 I am sure there are pre2's. No idea about dev discounts Aug 20 18:51:39 or halfhalo or anyone else who might know Aug 20 18:51:52 ahh. darn. have a friend who would have upgraded from a pre- for $50 Aug 20 18:51:57 I want one to try out webos quite a bit but also because I'd like to look into hacking and maybe seeing if bootloader could boot other OS, would need a exploit or a hole somewhere ofc but I'd be fine with looking into it Aug 20 18:52:09 oh wait... Aug 20 18:52:12 * dwc- misparsed Aug 20 18:52:28 any idea if the pre2s at the palm campus store will be price reduced monday? Aug 20 18:54:16 palm has the patent of "smartphone", irght? Aug 20 18:54:19 isnt webos hacker friendly? Aug 20 18:56:24 maybe google will acquire palm for $500M for its patents Aug 20 18:57:01 I don't think HP is interested in selling. Aug 20 18:57:26 hey guys, wrt microcenter orders. did "processing" mean limbo or? Aug 20 18:59:52 klausa: then we will develop apps for HP SmartPrinters(TM) Aug 20 19:00:06 You know… The 'get the webOS book' recommendation on our topic seems woefully out of date. Aug 20 19:00:29 That book wasn't even up-to-date back in '09. Aug 20 19:00:51 mitch told me I had to re-write it as he was done with writing books ever again Aug 20 19:01:01 hah. Aug 20 19:01:12 He hated it that much? Aug 20 19:02:41 yeah, he's not a book writer at heart Aug 20 19:05:57 hey mattsmcnulty, did you see this topic I made? https://developer.palm.com/distribution/viewtopic.php?f=11&t=17500 Aug 20 19:06:43 kind of violates the core rules of enyo Aug 20 19:06:50 but who am I to judge Aug 20 19:07:23 mattsmcnulty: Yeah, I know it does Aug 20 19:07:27 Tibfib: your avatar is epic Aug 20 19:07:49 but honestly, that would make development easier Aug 20 19:07:51 twbbas: people used to think that was really Tibfib Aug 20 19:07:58 I think people still do Aug 20 19:08:00 haha Aug 20 19:08:05 The Office is one of my favorite shows Aug 20 19:08:10 +1 Aug 20 19:08:22 been watching it pretty much every thursday since it started Aug 20 19:08:53 the only time I watch TV is for the NBC thursday night shows: Community, Parks & Rec, and The Offic Aug 20 19:09:09 only shows I watch are the office and modern family Aug 20 19:09:16 oh and modern family!! Aug 20 19:09:17 Hello :) Aug 20 19:09:19 I just got into that Aug 20 19:09:42 at this point, modern family is my favorite show Aug 20 19:09:47 office has gone slightly down hill Aug 20 19:09:50 Yep Aug 20 19:09:58 I like parks & rec more slightly more than the office Aug 20 19:10:04 modern family is at same level as The Office for me Aug 20 19:10:57 the delivery in Modern Family is so slick. Aug 20 19:11:05 Especially with Mitch & Cam Aug 20 19:11:13 Huh, I never knew about the window.enyo.dispatch thing... Aug 20 19:11:14 How much is the shipping of the touchpad to FL, guys?. Aug 20 19:11:19 "cue the gasp..." Aug 20 19:11:37 akanster: yes! Aug 20 19:11:44 roy-pre101: yeah, that's a pretty good solution Aug 20 19:11:46 Is there a function that calls once an app is fully loaded? like not flashing in card view anymore? create() seems to call right before it's loaded Aug 20 19:12:00 rendered() ? Aug 20 19:12:04 I used a micro-framework thing… where was it... Aug 20 19:12:10 Tibfib: Didn't know about that. I'll try it, thanks. Aug 20 19:12:32 Do someone know?. Aug 20 19:12:39 mattsmcnulty: perhaps not exactly what I said, but an easier way with the enyo.dispatch sutff Aug 20 19:12:49 TravisAntonio: no one knows Aug 20 19:12:59 http://microjs.com/ Aug 20 19:13:03 Lol... Aug 20 19:13:04 Thanks Aug 20 19:13:07 :P Aug 20 19:13:26 http://microjs.com/ Aug 20 19:13:29 whoops Aug 20 19:13:32 https://github.com/daniellmb/MinPubSub Aug 20 19:14:23 roy-pre101: nice Aug 20 19:14:40 that's awesome actually Aug 20 19:14:51 something like that integrated in enyo is what we need Aug 20 19:15:18 Tibfib: Sounds like the event dispatch stuff -is- that, more or less. Aug 20 19:15:26 we just create a global object with references to functions in spaz hd Aug 20 19:15:33 roy-pre101: yeah, but it seems to be more clunky Aug 20 19:15:53 It's a nice little library and super tiny. Aug 20 19:16:04 * Tibfib intergrates it into NomNomNom Aug 20 19:16:04 yep Aug 20 19:16:07 mattsmcnulty: almost silly to ask but how is morale around there? How are you guys holding up? Aug 20 19:16:10 funkatron: that's what we should do Aug 20 19:16:12 in spaz hd Aug 20 19:16:16 probably yes Aug 20 19:16:18 especially in a rewrite Aug 20 19:16:20 it would indeed be silly to ask Aug 20 19:16:21 *nodnod* Aug 20 19:16:23 hah, funkatrongave me that link. Aug 20 19:16:23 hahaha Aug 20 19:16:25 :( Aug 20 19:16:43 lol Aug 20 19:16:48 I know of lots of good code that may not be the best choice or get used for one reason or another 8D Aug 20 19:16:59 haha Aug 20 19:17:06 we totally should have used that in the beginning Aug 20 19:17:14 but you let us go on and do a crappy approach! Aug 20 19:17:19 aha Aug 20 19:17:22 err hahah Aug 20 19:17:26 IT'S YOUR FAULT HP KILLED WEBOS! Aug 20 19:17:46 nah, I valued Getting Things Done a lot more than messing with different libraries at that point Aug 20 19:17:46 Tibfib: rendered() still gets called prior to app launch. Any other ideas? :D Aug 20 19:17:53 shipping trumps nearly everything Aug 20 19:17:56 heh Aug 20 19:18:00 twbbas: hmmmm Aug 20 19:18:03 ask mattsmcnulty Aug 20 19:18:20 I'm mostly curious about what you are trying to accomplish? Aug 20 19:18:28 issue is the app is done rendering before it animates in Aug 20 19:18:47 there is an event for applaunch Aug 20 19:18:49 but that animation time should be a constant if you want to just time it. But the need is curious Aug 20 19:18:51 dunno when that is triggered Aug 20 19:18:53 I've never seen a conversation like this accomplish much without sharing code 8) Aug 20 19:18:55 I think before the launch Aug 20 19:18:58 My goal is to load a bunch of panes after the app's card comes fullscreen and use a progress bar to show the panes loading Aug 20 19:19:08 Right now, the app is getting stuck flashing when it's loading Aug 20 19:19:19 No errors. My guess is it's timing out or something. Aug 20 19:19:23 twbbas: set a delay on rendered() haha? Aug 20 19:19:32 that'd be a bad approach Aug 20 19:19:34 Tibfib: Thought of that but that's last resort Aug 20 19:20:01 I'll look into applaunch Aug 20 19:20:10 it is in the application events kind Aug 20 19:20:19 k thanks Aug 20 19:20:35 twbbas: btw, been any more reviews for nomnomnom? Aug 20 19:20:43 oh, do you even have a TP anymore? Aug 20 19:20:46 probably, I'll check Aug 20 19:20:49 I still have a loaner Aug 20 19:20:57 I have 3 ordered Aug 20 19:21:01 nice Aug 20 19:21:05 got my money back for mom's TP! Aug 20 19:21:14 IGNTNUNLMTD: still got a TP? Aug 20 19:21:16 best buy won't do mine, though Aug 20 19:21:21 yup, two! Aug 20 19:21:21 Tibfib: I forgot, I found a bug yesterday in nomnomnom Aug 20 19:21:23 :) Aug 20 19:21:25 I took a screenie of it Aug 20 19:21:25 twbbas: nice Aug 20 19:21:30 I found a couple myself today Aug 20 19:21:33 I'll send it with the screenies of reviews Aug 20 19:21:38 kk, thanks Aug 20 19:21:46 do you have one yet, Tibfib? Aug 20 19:21:49 nooooo Aug 20 19:21:50 monday Aug 20 19:21:52 :-( Aug 20 19:21:52 monday Aug 20 19:21:57 oh well that's good at least Aug 20 19:22:13 gotta jump in the showah, brb Aug 20 19:22:33 Tibfib: Nice job on nomnomnom Aug 20 19:22:35 btw. Aug 20 19:22:38 roy-pre101: thanks! Aug 20 19:23:03 Although… can't you get it to not stack notifications? Aug 20 19:23:03 Irony, or Brilliance? -- http://forums.precentral.net/hp-touchpad/292297-irony-brilliance.html Aug 20 19:23:14 Tibfib: your favorite friend is trolling - https://developer.palm.com/distribution/viewtopic.php?f=11&t=17594 Aug 20 19:23:29 ughhhhhhhhhhh Aug 20 19:24:06 I used to think he was a non-native speaker, but I think he just doesn't know grammar Aug 20 19:24:28 and I just demonstrated a lack of understanding of grammar by putting a comma there. oh well Aug 20 19:24:40 funkatron: your post is trending on HN - http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=2907282 Aug 20 19:25:25 cool Aug 20 19:26:12 OSS Enyo Aug 20 19:26:18 I doubt that will ever happen Aug 20 19:28:08 I wish the box.net app allowed multi-selecting of files to upload Aug 20 19:28:20 I thought it did Aug 20 19:28:44 bbiab Aug 20 19:30:12 jacques: How do I do that? Aug 20 19:30:52 Tibfib: incoming pm Aug 20 19:31:24 twbbas, I thought I had done it, shift-select maybe? Aug 20 19:32:10 uhh Aug 20 19:32:12 there's no keyboard Aug 20 19:32:28 oh sorry, for some reason I thought you meant on PC Aug 20 19:33:03 you did see this: http://thenextweb.com/apple/2011/08/19/hp-tested-webos-on-an-ipad-it-ran-over-twice-as-fast/ Aug 20 19:33:32 ohh Aug 20 19:33:34 saw it, don't believe it. Aug 20 19:33:34 I meant on TP Aug 20 19:34:37 onr: AFAICT they tested running the "web bits" of webOS in Safari on iOS or something. Not the whole OS. Not sure, seems a tad confused. Aug 20 19:38:54 'ello! Aug 20 19:41:28 ...and my orders got cancelled Aug 20 19:41:30 * helf cries Aug 20 19:41:39 from who? Aug 20 19:41:44 microcenter Aug 20 19:42:13 goto to the 'submit' button now for mine and .. hung. Aug 20 19:42:23 s/goto/got to/ Aug 20 19:42:33 20 goto 10 Aug 20 19:45:21 plane crashes at KC airshow, kills pilot Aug 20 19:46:58 Did anyone here if ATT canceled the touchpad 4g? Aug 20 19:47:07 they did Aug 20 19:47:08 I know they cancelled the Pre3 now Aug 20 19:47:12 they are killing all their stuff Aug 20 19:47:14 including the pre3 Aug 20 19:47:17 ok Aug 20 19:47:20 I knew the pre3 Aug 20 19:47:26 what pisses me off is they got the pre3 in europe AND a 64gb touchpad Aug 20 19:47:30 The touchpad 4g was missing from the info I had seen Aug 20 19:47:39 there is no way a tp 4g is launching. Aug 20 19:47:52 I've been wanting a touchpad, but i cant seem to find one online. all my orders have been cancelled :( *sigh* Aug 20 19:47:55 What pisses me off is I didnt know the liquidations until it was to late Aug 20 19:47:56 the pre3 is/was available in europe? Aug 20 19:48:08 Even at 11PM last night I guess HP was out of stock Aug 20 19:48:15 well Aug 20 19:48:16 I hear pre's are onsale now too? Aug 20 19:48:24 they are out of stock Aug 20 19:48:27 i checked them at midnight my time and they were stil lat the same price Aug 20 19:48:30 HP sold out of everything Aug 20 19:48:33 they've all been out of stock since yesterday Aug 20 19:48:36 i heared they clain they are available but noone is shipping Aug 20 19:48:37 5 hours later they and everyone else were sold out ;( Aug 20 19:48:46 They had them normal price Aug 20 19:48:56 people were calling them and ordering 5- 20 Aug 20 19:48:58 at 99 Aug 20 19:49:02 assholes Aug 20 19:49:04 That was huge Aug 20 19:49:11 I hope they cant sell them Aug 20 19:49:19 or they become lead bricks for them :) Aug 20 19:49:25 joking of course Aug 20 19:49:32 but at least I managed to get a loaner Aug 20 19:49:42 now I need to see what the price was to keep it Aug 20 19:49:45 I hope they adjusted Aug 20 19:49:46 i'm sure more places like amazon or newegg will move them to 99 in a day or two. Aug 20 19:49:52 or I will be happy to return it Aug 20 19:50:00 yeah Aug 20 19:50:01 and then they'll all show up on ebay and craiglist for about that price soon. Aug 20 19:50:02 ebay is freaking flooded wit hthem Aug 20 19:50:03 I hope so Aug 20 19:50:06 oppurtunistic assholes Aug 20 19:50:12 yeah I hate that Aug 20 19:50:12 I know it and this was before the fire sale Aug 20 19:50:19 and they are all marked up Aug 20 19:50:22 yeah Aug 20 19:50:26 like near retail Aug 20 19:50:28 someone probably orded 10k at once to resell Aug 20 19:50:28 ;( Aug 20 19:50:42 Infact I am sure that probably happened Aug 20 19:50:44 they sold out WAY too fast for there to have no been some massive bulk orders Aug 20 19:50:57 3-4 weeks it will all come back around ... no way all those sold get into actual use. Aug 20 19:51:10 yeah, im definitely going to be on th elook out Aug 20 19:51:27 I am hopeful that HP will put the returns from bestbuy back on sale Aug 20 19:51:31 tigerdirect will probably be selling "bundles" with lots of crap added for $100 markup soon Aug 20 19:51:34 some 200k being sent back Aug 20 19:51:35 or 240k Aug 20 19:51:46 I guess they took almost 300k Aug 20 19:51:50 sold about 25k Aug 20 19:51:57 i was going to order 4 or 5 for me and family :( Aug 20 19:52:12 HPs business page is still listing them, but i get an error message if i try to check out Aug 20 19:53:18 really Aug 20 19:53:25 I want to see if HP will sell me a Pre 3 if I ask nicely :3 Aug 20 19:53:37 I was seriously going to buy one launch day Aug 20 19:53:41 tigerdirect has them jacques Aug 20 19:53:49 i could really just buy one for ful lretail Aug 20 19:53:53 then get the refund from HP Aug 20 19:53:58 I feel that everyone is jumping from palm I havent received any emails Aug 20 19:54:01 that was my next phone but with no path to a real 3.0 i dont think i want one. Aug 20 19:54:04 maybe I will get a response on monday Aug 20 19:54:07 i went to them and they wouldn't honor the price Aug 20 19:54:21 helf, I think HP is only refunding ppl who bought from HP Aug 20 19:54:22 rwatkins-laptop the P3? We'll I Aug 20 19:54:32 d buy one just to see WebOs on some god hardware for once Aug 20 19:54:39 edude03: ya, pre3 Aug 20 19:54:41 *good Aug 20 19:54:41 it probably still lags Aug 20 19:54:42 alot Aug 20 19:54:50 thats why they are killing it Aug 20 19:55:29 I can't seem to get the novacom drivers working on lion :/ Aug 20 19:55:32 anyone with a pre3 run any enyo apps on it yet to see how the version of enyo on it performs? Aug 20 19:55:40 it wasnt so bad on my old Pre Aug 20 19:55:48 depending on what i ran :p Aug 20 19:55:50 I installed the SDK but WQI still says no device connected Aug 20 19:56:01 webos takes for damn ever to boot tho Aug 20 19:56:11 haahaha Aug 20 19:56:13 somebody Aug 20 19:56:14 rickrolled Aug 20 19:56:18 slickdeals :D Aug 20 19:56:58 just got the touchpad Aug 20 19:57:06 helf just like a blackberry :/ Aug 20 19:57:06 no wonder it wasn't selling. kind of bulky Aug 20 19:57:38 Deihmos1: ya, cant fit that TP in your back pocket? Aug 20 19:57:53 "Too bulky" for what exactly? Aug 20 19:58:22 "is that a TP in your pocket, or are you just happy to see me?" Aug 20 19:58:37 rwatkins-laptop: don't feed the trolls. especially now. Aug 20 19:58:47 People like you are why 10 year old girls go on diets, I hope you're proud of yourself Aug 20 19:58:48 anyone get the $99 touchpad today ? Aug 20 19:59:01 only shops that still have them in stock havent dropped the price Aug 20 19:59:02 :( Aug 20 19:59:04 got it from BJs though I have to go back for a price adjustment Aug 20 19:59:58 i need to call the bestbuy and stuff near me. might get lucky when I get off work :p Aug 20 19:59:59 if hp sells the ones that are returned by stores there will be plenty Aug 20 20:00:03 Deihmos1, are they doing price adjustments for sure? Aug 20 20:00:13 scottj, they'd be idiots not to Aug 20 20:00:15 helf: bb isn't selling it unless your in ca Aug 20 20:00:20 scottj, unless they will use it as a HUGE rightoff Aug 20 20:00:20 yea Aug 20 20:00:29 Monday Aug 20 20:00:35 oh, i thought they were Aug 20 20:00:36 lame Aug 20 20:00:36 no one is there to adjust it today Aug 20 20:00:42 i think wamart here had them Aug 20 20:00:45 * helf will go see :p Aug 20 20:00:58 i went to walmart Aug 20 20:00:59 helf: perhaps they're concerned about the hp brand being tarnished by a million discontinued unsupported products? Aug 20 20:01:01 sold out :( Aug 20 20:01:10 your walmart :p Aug 20 20:01:19 i live in a little rinkydink town Aug 20 20:01:45 scottj, like its not tarnished enough by dropping an entire thing on it s ass after spending billions to advertise it? :p Aug 20 20:01:46 hm. i'm visiting a rinky dink down .. maybe walmart here has em ... Aug 20 20:02:10 so the phone apps just show up in that little box Aug 20 20:02:30 helf: marginal tarnishment might be greater than marginal revenue :) Aug 20 20:02:32 im slightly urked. if walmart does have one ill have to put it on a creditcard since microcenter debited my money out for the order then cancelled it Aug 20 20:02:38 probably take 3-4 days to get it back Aug 20 20:02:40 or profit Aug 20 20:02:48 and the games looked like they are zoomed in Aug 20 20:03:08 i just want one for surfing on the couch and a few other things :p Aug 20 20:03:13 for the price.. Aug 20 20:03:16 but meh, its not big loss Aug 20 20:03:33 Deihmos1, is yours a 16 or a 32gb? Aug 20 20:03:54 i only wanted the 16 Aug 20 20:04:05 ill give you $20 more than you paid plus shipping ;P Aug 20 20:04:34 heh, bbiab Aug 20 20:04:47 that's all right Aug 20 20:04:56 So, anywhere we can grab one now? Aug 20 20:05:26 without paying full price and hoping for a price drop ? it will be hard Aug 20 20:05:53 not that I know of. but there's gotta be a plan. They still have 200k units out there. Will be a long time before they sell that many, even at $100 Aug 20 20:06:09 Bestbuy returned their stock Aug 20 20:06:18 should be more on hp.com Aug 20 20:06:24 Yeah, my friends are coming back from US soon, so long term plan aren't really any good for me. Aug 20 20:06:27 hp site is just dead Aug 20 20:06:32 but stocks should be fine Aug 20 20:06:32 :D Aug 20 20:06:37 Deihmos1: My friend somehow managed to buy two today form BB. Aug 20 20:06:51 32 and 16 GB. Aug 20 20:06:59 for how much? Aug 20 20:07:11 They told him they don't have any and that they're returning it, but another clerk sold him two for reduced price. Aug 20 20:07:12 your sure about that Aug 20 20:07:21 I doubt that Aug 20 20:07:33 I don't have reason to believe he's lying. Aug 20 20:07:38 bestbuy pulled it from their system compeltely. when i went there they were pulling everything down Aug 20 20:07:57 a friend of mine reports success at bb as well - both 16 and 32 at firesale prices .. Aug 20 20:08:00 they're out now Aug 20 20:08:14 wtf Aug 20 20:08:19 this makes me wanna try BB Aug 20 20:08:19 :P Aug 20 20:08:21 like klausa, i have no reason to doubt him .. must be local manager policy? Aug 20 20:08:26 ymmv, etc Aug 20 20:09:13 damn Microsoft made a nice offer Aug 20 20:09:39 any webos developer should jump on it Aug 20 20:09:56 easy to offer when you have a bazilion phones laying on the shelves. Aug 20 20:10:08 Whatever - he's bringing one for me, so I'm happy. Aug 20 20:10:18 Microsoft go money plus they don't make the phones Aug 20 20:10:37 I have not seen a new Windows Phone in a while Aug 20 20:11:03 they also know that offer is open to what? a few hundred people? Aug 20 20:11:35 Yup. Aug 20 20:11:42 It's very cheap, great publicity stunt. Aug 20 20:11:50 do we know of any locations that have touchpads still? Aug 20 20:11:55 would be a better offer if it was to a platform that PhoneGap supported. Aug 20 20:12:06 summatusmentis: No luck on your sam's club? Aug 20 20:12:12 http://www.cringely.com/2011/02/why-leo-apotheker-will-be-fired-from-hewlett-packard/ Aug 20 20:12:27 klausa: mine is still listed as "initialized with shipping group" Aug 20 20:12:43 my parents were hoping to pick up 3 Aug 20 20:12:52 but I can't find _anywhere_ nearby or online that has them Aug 20 20:12:59 and the sams club website is showing OS Aug 20 20:13:01 OOS* Aug 20 20:13:43 http://datavis.com/cgi-bin/search.cgi?key=hp%2Btouchpad+webOs&x=0&y=0 Aug 20 20:13:53 datavis times out when checking out Aug 20 20:13:55 They are supposed to have one. Aug 20 20:14:02 much like HP small business Aug 20 20:14:03 But I think we DDoSed them. Aug 20 20:14:46 microsoft is pretty solid company. they never give up the fight like hp does Aug 20 20:15:27 wow...yeah, you can still buy it on HP.com Aug 20 20:15:27 wp7 is pretty nice - two flaws were multitasking and a crap browser and thats what the fixed first. Aug 20 20:15:47 I played with wp7 briefly today, nothing jumped out at me Aug 20 20:15:49 Yeah, I think bigger issue was no socket-api. Aug 20 20:15:49 I'm almost wondering if I should buy more but I already bought 4 last night O.o Aug 20 20:15:55 Everything had to be through HTTP. Aug 20 20:15:59 Before Mango. Aug 20 20:16:02 That was fucking insane. Aug 20 20:16:23 rwatkins, a few hundred people develop for webos? Aug 20 20:16:27 I lost all interest at that point. Aug 20 20:16:38 If I can't use it to ssh, it's useless. Aug 20 20:17:13 * DougReeder waves hello Aug 20 20:17:24 guys, is it worth it to get my hands on a new sprint pixi? could be free if I resign a contract Aug 20 20:17:52 yeah datavis is dead Aug 20 20:17:59 so what the over/under on how long the profile servers, etc stay up? Aug 20 20:18:32 summatusmentis probably not. The pixi isn't great and how much is it off contract? Aug 20 20:18:33 2+ years at least Aug 20 20:18:42 rwatkins-pm: until hp officially kills webOS, forever Aug 20 20:18:42 edude03: $300 Aug 20 20:18:57 :| Aug 20 20:18:59 edude03: which is more expensive than the ETF Aug 20 20:19:00 Tibfib: so .. 3-4 wks? Aug 20 20:19:07 rwatkins-pm: right Aug 20 20:19:10 once they "have a plan" Aug 20 20:19:14 summatusmentis $300 directly from the store? Aug 20 20:19:15 they have to support it for all the people on contract Aug 20 20:19:22 edude03: yeah, can't get it online Aug 20 20:19:25 I'm sure you can find one on the grey market cheap :P Aug 20 20:19:31 so is there progress on an alternative store? :P Aug 20 20:19:40 or market w/e its called Aug 20 20:19:42 dwc-: ya, would imagine atleast for att veer users Aug 20 20:19:46 edude03: well, the idea would be getting a new webOS device Aug 20 20:20:11 though... I guess HP could compensate ATT for giving everyone different phones early Aug 20 20:20:20 but that's probably more than just leaving the servers up Aug 20 20:21:00 veer probably barely sold Aug 20 20:21:20 they offering firesale discount retroactively to phone purcahses too? Aug 20 20:21:27 I wonder if someone would find a way to run android on the tablet Aug 20 20:21:28 wouldn't mind reducing the cost of my veer to $50 ^.^ Aug 20 20:22:16 summatusmentis true. Well the pixi isn't that bad Aug 20 20:22:23 veer never should have happened Aug 20 20:22:26 the pixe was terrible Aug 20 20:22:33 pixi never should have happened. Aug 20 20:22:35 horribly slow Aug 20 20:22:47 Deihmos I'd take a crack at it once I figure out how to unbrick the TP Aug 20 20:22:56 i love my veer :( Aug 20 20:23:20 dtzWill: still never should have happened Aug 20 20:23:34 still need to get my $50 app catalog credit so I can buy out half the catalog while its still there. Aug 20 20:23:51 edude03: and sprint has EOLd them, so I need to decide this soon Aug 20 20:23:57 heh, half the catalog Aug 20 20:23:59 called HP - they need me to actually fax in my receipt of all things. Aug 20 20:24:04 lol Aug 20 20:24:42 like an activation at near midnight on july 1 wasnt a qualifying purchase .. :/ Aug 20 20:25:49 Heh. Aug 20 20:25:52 Gizmodo review: Aug 20 20:25:56 Look, give this thing six months. It could be amazing. If it's not by then, well, I guess that says everything that needs to be said. Aug 20 20:26:09 can I text message on the touchpad Aug 20 20:26:35 Deihmos yeah if you have a plam phone Aug 20 20:26:54 damn Aug 20 20:27:11 omg Aug 20 20:27:17 Pre 3's on sale on ebay!!!!! Aug 20 20:27:24 and even then, only if you have a pre3 or veer Aug 20 20:27:29 Where'd I put me credit curd Aug 20 20:27:38 uk pre3s? Aug 20 20:27:53 summatusmentis orly? I though it was all palms :/ Aug 20 20:28:05 I have text messages from my Pre+ on my TP right now? Aug 20 20:28:13 dwc- http://www.ebay.ca/sch/Cell-Phones-Smartphones-/9355/i.html?_nkw=hp+pre3&_catref=1&_dmpt=PDA_Accessories&_fln=1&_trksid=p3286.c0.m282 Aug 20 20:28:15 edude03: nope, anything 2.1 or before can do the call forwarding, but not the txt forwarding Aug 20 20:28:32 oh, yeah, I think the messages sync, but you can't send/receive unless you have 2.2+ Aug 20 20:28:43 That would make sense Aug 20 20:28:52 gosh I want a pre3 Aug 20 20:28:56 so sad. Aug 20 20:28:57 Tibfib me too! Aug 20 20:28:59 I do too Aug 20 20:29:03 Lets call HP and ask for one Aug 20 20:29:11 Tell them we're from the internet Aug 20 20:29:11 can you put the same profile on two TPs? Aug 20 20:29:16 unable to get the update Aug 20 20:29:20 rwatkins: yes Aug 20 20:29:21 IIRC Aug 20 20:29:21 all UK Aug 20 20:29:36 rwatkins-pm: yes Aug 20 20:29:38 so... how's the 3g bands on those Aug 20 20:29:38 the font in the browser is terribler Aug 20 20:29:47 well, that's what I'm wondering Aug 20 20:29:52 YOUR FONT IN THE BROWSER IS TERRIBLER! Aug 20 20:30:04 if I could buy a UK one, and use it on AT&T, I'd maybe do that Aug 20 20:30:14 900 1900 2100 Aug 20 20:30:15 the font can be changed? Aug 20 20:30:20 on the first post... Aug 20 20:30:29 I would get a pre3 for <=200 off contract. Aug 20 20:30:40 good luck w/ that Aug 20 20:30:48 pretty hopeful actually Aug 20 20:30:51 firesale. Aug 20 20:31:14 I guess they have to do something with their stock Aug 20 20:31:15 or more probable: dev discount Aug 20 20:31:37 which I can't get :-/ Aug 20 20:32:02 HP small business checkout : Microsoft VBScript compilation error '800a03e9' Aug 20 20:32:02 Out of memory Aug 20 20:32:03 /LM/W3SVC/600510919/Root/dstore/global.asa, line 0" Aug 20 20:32:13 same thing I'm seeing Aug 20 20:32:19 clearly enterprise software is their area of expertise. Aug 20 20:32:34 the computer is personal again --- so we're getting out! Aug 20 20:32:38 * DougReeder waves goodbye Aug 20 20:32:40 the font rendering has to be the bad. Is there anything that can be done Aug 20 20:32:46 l8r doug Aug 20 20:32:54 byye DougReeder Aug 20 20:33:06 that's HP scale for you! Aug 20 20:33:42 the difference is, imo Aug 20 20:33:56 turtles Aug 20 20:34:00 the home store was built for consumer traffic loads... note the slickdeals effect never took that down Aug 20 20:34:29 Anything like this: Aug 20 20:34:30 http://www.precentral.net/putty-ssh-palm Aug 20 20:34:33 For TouchPad? Aug 20 20:34:34 the sb store apparently wasn't built for slickdealers hammering it trying to get a deal Aug 20 20:34:48 the sb store was fine all last night too Aug 20 20:35:14 just buit for a fixed load, and not the like something smart like saw aws and scaling up and down on demand. Aug 20 20:35:40 aws backends don't scale up and down on demand very well, imo Aug 20 20:35:57 then again, aws front ends have ugly latency issues too Aug 20 20:36:03 I wouldn't run e-commerce on aws Aug 20 20:36:11 no SLAs Aug 20 20:39:10 could not find a touchpad at retail today. got up too late Aug 20 20:40:00 I can't find any either Aug 20 20:42:40 so... I hear people hating on resellers... but I'm curious how many people would complain if someone went to the palm store monday and bought up a pile and sold them for cost+time+shipping to people here who didn't find one on their own Aug 20 20:42:42 trying to add a gmail account gives an unknown error Aug 20 20:43:21 I would probably be in for 3 if that were possible Aug 20 20:43:57 Uhm, so - do we have here someone that actually had TouchPad before and uses it? Aug 20 20:43:57 I should be abl to take my launch day 32GB to BB and leave with 4 32 GBs :-) Aug 20 20:44:22 touchpad just random reboot Aug 20 20:45:00 or luna just crashed Aug 20 20:46:23 I'm bought the last unit my local radioshack had (demo unit) ... any ideas on how to uninstall the demo software? I have novaterm up and running. Aug 20 20:46:34 download the webos doctor Aug 20 20:46:41 ^ Aug 20 20:46:46 www.palm.com/rom Aug 20 20:47:16 So what, no one uses their TouchPad as ssh client? Aug 20 20:47:19 Really? Aug 20 20:47:32 ok. enough attempts at reload. anotehr time Aug 20 20:47:34 thx will try Aug 20 20:47:39 klausa: I will :p Aug 20 20:48:03 i thought there was an irc client for webos Aug 20 20:48:20 there is Aug 20 20:48:20 adamrb does radioshack do price matching? They still show it $499.99 on their website Aug 20 20:48:23 wIRC Aug 20 20:48:27 Yeah, I'm trying to figure how to do it. Aug 20 20:48:33 not sure Aug 20 20:48:47 searched catalog and nothing Aug 20 20:48:55 when I was in there you could also have one shipped to you at the 149 price Aug 20 20:48:55 The 'recommended' way i hear is XServer + XTerm + OpenSSH. Aug 20 20:49:02 yep Aug 20 20:49:07 I am hoping this demo unit isn't jacked Aug 20 20:49:13 hmm, it says it's in stock. I may just call them. Aug 20 20:49:19 But I'm afraid that it will totally kill battery life. Aug 20 20:49:39 http://developer.palm.com/appredirect/?packageid=org.webosinternals.catalog.wirc Aug 20 20:49:54 or you can get it free (legitimately) out of preware Aug 20 20:50:18 anyone have a touchpad serial #? I am trying to download webOS and it is saying mine is invalid Aug 20 20:50:31 *webOS Doctor Aug 20 20:51:33 what's the first 8 of your serial # Aug 20 20:51:40 the droids you're looking for: http://www.webos-internals.org/wiki/Webos_Doctor_Versions#Wifi_Only Aug 20 20:51:46 called my local radio shack, the guy said that they don't carry the touchpad. -.- Aug 20 20:52:00 5CL12702 Aug 20 20:52:12 just click the link next to 3.0.2 Aug 20 20:52:14 thats the doc Aug 20 20:52:23 interesting, wonder why it doesn't like it Aug 20 20:52:35 oh, I guess I only needed the first 4 Aug 20 20:52:42 grabbing the jar now Aug 20 20:53:05 hey is there an inittab equivalent on this OS? Aug 20 20:53:16 I'm curious as to why I can't modify stuff on the filesystem Aug 20 20:53:19 it uses upstart Aug 20 20:53:20 it says it is in read-only mode Aug 20 20:53:29 you need to make it readwrite Aug 20 20:53:33 its like rootfs_open or something like that? Aug 20 20:53:35 its on the wiki Aug 20 20:53:41 ok cool will check it out Aug 20 20:53:54 rootfs_open -w Aug 20 20:54:03 makes it writeable Aug 20 20:54:21 ah Aug 20 20:54:59 wow kind of pro that it uses upstart Aug 20 20:55:03 it might be read-only because it was a demo unit Aug 20 20:55:08 partly Aug 20 20:55:16 we'll see... am nuking it now with web doctor Aug 20 20:55:32 I suspect if it can be nuked the flash isn't read only Aug 20 20:55:34 dwc-: no the rootfs is just like that Aug 20 20:56:06 Man I can't believe they are dumping these things for $100 Aug 20 20:56:18 gosh, I can't say this enough. If you aren't using underscore in your apps you are doing somethign wrong Aug 20 20:56:19 http://documentcloud.github.com/underscore/ Aug 20 20:57:14 What touchpad does when you run non-tablet app on it? Aug 20 20:57:23 * oil thinks about getting pms workng in wirc-enyo and dropping it into the testing feed Aug 20 20:57:50 * Jordan8 gives up, can't find a $99.99 touchpad anywhere -.- Aug 20 20:58:08 Jordan8: try staples, radioshack, walmart Aug 20 20:58:24 I did Aug 20 20:58:36 I wonder what newegg will do Aug 20 20:58:43 my bro told me he ordered a 32gb tp for like 120 or something.. I told him he should have gotten two lol Aug 20 20:58:47 local is the only way to get one now Aug 20 20:59:00 I wonder if sears carrys them in store? Aug 20 20:59:13 walmart is the best best locally too. Aug 20 20:59:22 Jordan8: hmmm, I don't think so Aug 20 20:59:29 but I'm not confident Aug 20 20:59:40 wonder how many have sold so far since thursday Aug 20 20:59:49 I would set up a price alert at newegg.com so you can see when it drops Aug 20 20:59:54 a million? Aug 20 20:59:56 350,000 is the latest number Aug 20 20:59:59 I'd bet more though. Aug 20 21:00:07 arg. I called walmart they said they were out of em. Gonna call sears atm Aug 20 21:00:09 there probably wasnt that many to sell Aug 20 21:00:41 JUST GOT LAST 2 touchpads in maine!!!! Aug 20 21:00:41 if they get to a half mil that will be something Aug 20 21:00:47 nice Aug 20 21:00:49 nice Aug 20 21:00:49 at walmart! Aug 20 21:00:51 lol Aug 20 21:01:01 now what was I working on .... Aug 20 21:01:04 ah Aug 20 21:01:06 32 gb Aug 20 21:01:21 how much did they run? Aug 20 21:01:28 149 Aug 20 21:01:30 $ Aug 20 21:01:34 ill give you 150 for one Aug 20 21:01:35 ;) Aug 20 21:01:36 not bad lol Aug 20 21:01:37 took me all day Aug 20 21:01:45 dad and I bought one Aug 20 21:01:48 I'll give you 151 for one Aug 20 21:01:51 rofl Aug 20 21:01:52 152 Aug 20 21:01:56 200 Aug 20 21:01:59 200.01 Aug 20 21:02:03 hehe if only there was a website for this Aug 20 21:02:08 some type of auction site Aug 20 21:02:12 ebay ;D Aug 20 21:02:19 where you could come up with a contract, and a payment system Aug 20 21:02:22 adamrb: isn't that walmart or somethign? Aug 20 21:02:24 I'm keeping mine Aug 20 21:02:28 or was that pirate bay Aug 20 21:02:34 hmmmmmmmmmm Aug 20 21:02:48 woah oops Aug 20 21:03:04 hehe irc command fail Aug 20 21:04:51 i don't see wirc Aug 20 21:05:02 why does it cost so much for the phone? almost 5 bucks Aug 20 21:05:19 webos doctor nuke complete...restarting Aug 20 21:05:19 would we receive that $50.00 app credit? Aug 20 21:05:28 is .destroy() called when an app is closed? Aug 20 21:06:15 5 bucks for which phone? do you mean 50? Aug 20 21:06:45 50 off contract is tempting... maybe for the wife to replace her pixi Aug 20 21:06:53 I am sure woot.com is going to get a bunch soon they had some like 2 weeks ago Aug 20 21:07:09 siestacat: nice! I'm on hold with a store in way northern MN getting them to hold me some until I can get there :) Aug 20 21:07:31 answer is no Aug 20 21:07:33 "Unlike in Mojo, destroy is not always called in Enyo. In particular, it is not triggered when the user tosses your card off screen, so putting last-minute saving instructions in here is not a good idea. Instead, use ApplicationEvents and onUnload." Aug 20 21:07:52 Tibfib: nope, customer service is gonna put them in a drawer for me Aug 20 21:07:57 minnesota-nice Aug 20 21:07:59 summatusmentis: ? Aug 20 21:08:09 oh, "answer is no" wasn't to me Aug 20 21:08:24 heh, nope Aug 20 21:09:43 oh, is there any place to get the $99 deal today? or still sold out? Aug 20 21:10:12 My name...is Keith Stone. Aug 20 21:10:26 Local stores is your best chance, uncola Aug 20 21:10:28 is that keyword for haeffb is drinking? Aug 20 21:10:43 uncola, hawaii should have some somewhere. Aug 20 21:10:45 * haeffb is bummed that I'll never get to do netflix streaming on the TP Aug 20 21:10:55 haeffb: DON'T GIVE UP HOPE Aug 20 21:11:30 * haeffb is bummed that I'll PROBABLY never get to do netflix streaming on the TP Aug 20 21:11:34 better? Aug 20 21:11:38 keith I didn't know you liked webos Aug 20 21:11:53 haeffb: yep! Aug 20 21:11:56 webOS is smooth. like Keith Stone. Aug 20 21:12:08 lol, I know a guy named keith shone. Aug 20 21:12:14 Smooooothhh guy Aug 20 21:12:15 uncola: youre crazy, I've been in webos since day 1. Aug 20 21:12:21 keith shone? Bright? Aug 20 21:12:44 extremely Aug 20 21:13:07 aw shit. DIdn't know there was actually someone named "keith" in here. He's getting alerts every time I say "Keith Stone" Aug 20 21:13:20 sorry, keith. Aug 20 21:13:34 haeffb: are you really sore for keith? Aug 20 21:13:39 s/sore/sorry/ Aug 20 21:13:55 because if you are really sorry you should make a public apology to keith now Aug 20 21:13:59 like right now, to keith. Aug 20 21:14:08 gonna go to walmart to see if they have any touchpads. Aug 20 21:14:10 so the webos doctor worked, but now I can't create my account Aug 20 21:14:22 if I find any, I'll let keith know. Aug 20 21:14:29 the hp tech said that the network is overworked Aug 20 21:14:39 haha of course it is Aug 20 21:15:00 must be weird for them to have a product people want. Aug 20 21:15:00 no kidding? Maybe they should have anticipated some new users when they declared webOS to be dead Aug 20 21:15:26 I currently have a loaner dev tp. hoping I can keep it for 99 Aug 20 21:16:58 this is the funniest video ever: http://www.precentral.net/video-how-hitler-took-news Aug 20 21:17:35 nohorse_ same boat as you Aug 20 21:19:50 they said to try again in 1h as they were increasing network capacity or something Aug 20 21:19:53 sounds like BS to me Aug 20 21:20:05 I'm just hoping that my device serial # isn't preventing me from signing up Aug 20 21:20:14 (because it is a demo unit) Aug 20 21:21:14 siestacat: were you able to sign up for a new WebOS account on one of your units? Aug 20 21:24:39 damn hp store throwing an out of memory error Aug 20 21:24:49 so do you guys think my best bet for the $99 touchpad would be going physically to target or walmart? Aug 20 21:24:50 I found you can buy it through the Small Business link Aug 20 21:25:09 check walmart.com and see if there is any stock near you Aug 20 21:25:14 then go to those Aug 20 21:26:04 it says not sold in stores Aug 20 21:26:12 I would try just calling stores Aug 20 21:26:14 TeamAndIRC ✔ jcase Aug 20 21:26:15 Andirc-ers I have a spare touchpad, costs plus a nice bottle of wine. Pick up in nc preferred Aug 20 21:26:28 target electronics wouldn't pick up the phone :| Aug 20 21:26:33 im not in nc, maybe one of you guys are :p Aug 20 21:26:38 i'm in NC Aug 20 21:27:04 i called best buy at crabtree raleigh earlier, they said they aren't selling em anymore and are sending them back to manufacturer Aug 20 21:27:28 a walmart 30 mi outside of raleigh had a 32 gb model for a bit this morning then an hour later when i checked it was gone Aug 20 21:28:20 Jordan8: ^ Aug 20 21:28:45 adamrb: small business link? Aug 20 21:28:56 yeah I've went locally everywhere too JBstrikesagain Aug 20 21:29:01 i'm getting an out of stock on there too Aug 20 21:29:09 http://twitter.com/#!/TeamAndIRC/status/105018738310512640 is the link to the twitter post i was referring to Aug 20 21:29:10 http://www.hp.com/sbso/ Aug 20 21:29:34 well I'll give target a shot I guess Aug 20 21:29:58 I just called target Aug 20 21:30:04 they said they never carried them in store, only online Aug 20 21:30:22 thanks for saving me a trip Aug 20 21:30:26 I guess I'll go to walmart heh Aug 20 21:30:35 you may as well call first too Aug 20 21:30:38 save the trip Aug 20 21:30:47 I just called a bunch of walmarts and they said they were out Aug 20 21:30:51 ohb yeah good idea Aug 20 21:30:53 I've called a few. Aug 20 21:30:54 sounds like they were used to the question by now Aug 20 21:31:05 Jordan8: where are you located? Aug 20 21:31:17 kentucky Aug 20 21:35:29 walmart electronics just told me the sale is only online Aug 20 21:35:54 I give up. oh well. Aug 20 21:36:19 meh wait till monday Aug 20 21:36:22 places will restock Aug 20 21:36:26 Walmart does price matching though, so you should be able to get them to price match with HP or whoever, uncola? Aug 20 21:36:42 walmart will only price match something within 5 miles of the store i believe Aug 20 21:36:49 it's a really crazy policy but they don't pricematch online Aug 20 21:36:51 ah Aug 20 21:37:40 Sold out everywhere huh Aug 20 21:38:11 preeeetty much Aug 20 21:38:51 I found 1 at radioshck for 599 Aug 20 21:39:18 yeah but they aren't dropping the price Aug 20 21:39:18 i called radio shack & the guy told me they didn't even carry it lol Aug 20 21:39:39 strange Aug 20 21:39:46 what happened to amazon Aug 20 21:39:46 Bestbuy USA is refusing to sell Aug 20 21:40:01 bestbuy shipped em back to hp i believe. Aug 20 21:40:04 did they pull a bestbuy? Aug 20 21:40:07 I went there at 8 this morning and the manager was like we don't have any Aug 20 21:40:18 amazon no longer has it forsale either Aug 20 21:40:19 Even though I saw 10 in the cage Aug 20 21:40:27 Fockers Aug 20 21:40:32 yeah Aug 20 21:40:34 yup they are shipping them back to HP Aug 20 21:40:40 Called 3 stores. Same story Aug 20 21:40:42 some bestbuys were claiming they were recalled and not allowed to sell Aug 20 21:40:48 lol Aug 20 21:40:53 i mean i guess they kinda were Aug 20 21:40:53 Lol Aug 20 21:40:58 no they werent Aug 20 21:40:58 Some are selling though. Aug 20 21:41:03 (Thank god.) Aug 20 21:41:03 bestbuy is just angry Aug 20 21:41:05 Bestbuy has been pissed with HP about the tab Aug 20 21:41:05 the best buy by me said they shipped them all back to hp Aug 20 21:41:22 Screw them anyway Aug 20 21:41:27 dawm|laptop: yeah, my bb said they pulled all of them Aug 20 21:41:40 I would have liked one for 149 Aug 20 21:41:40 My friend bought mine at BB. Aug 20 21:41:42 sears has them for 399 Aug 20 21:41:48 if I had a bunch, I'd ship 'em back to HP to get my money back too Aug 20 21:41:52 instead of selling them at a loss Aug 20 21:42:00 BB doesn't want ppl buying $100 tps instead of $500+ ipads and android tabs Aug 20 21:42:15 does anyone have a tablet that they would mind setting up a new account on? I'm very curious to see if I can't create an account because HP is busy or because my serial # is somehow linked to a demo unit serial. Aug 20 21:42:24 BB doesn't want to sell them at a $200+ loss.... Aug 20 21:42:35 dwc-, they won't lose anything Aug 20 21:42:45 I don't think it works like that Aug 20 21:42:48 dwc-, HP would reimburse them, they just don't want them affecting other sales Aug 20 21:43:11 Too bad the us division isn't cool like BBcanada Aug 20 21:43:18 BB isnot cool Aug 20 21:43:26 I can't complain. Aug 20 21:43:27 they are greedy bastards all the time Aug 20 21:43:48 Bb Canada released their stock at 99$ a day early Aug 20 21:44:02 well, they are Canadian :-) Aug 20 21:44:06 Lol Aug 20 21:44:20 BB US is not cool Aug 20 21:45:04 Hp might have some stockin a few days Aug 20 21:45:54 office depot will Aug 20 21:49:18 Ìû Aug 20 21:54:16 jacques: the reimbursement doesnt matter. they probably dont want to deal with open box returns over the next 60 days Aug 20 21:55:03 Hp to fund the diff Aug 20 22:00:33 this will go down in history as one of the weirdest moves of any tech company Aug 20 22:00:44 release a product then a month later dump it Aug 20 22:02:15 Deihmos: hey, at least it was on the shelf longer then the kin Aug 20 22:02:20 1 day. Aug 20 22:02:27 thats longer! Aug 20 22:02:46 I guess the major difference is some people actually like the TouchPad Aug 20 22:02:52 lol Aug 20 22:03:06 I don't think anyone was sad to see kin go. Aug 20 22:03:08 wow my very well kept and fairly new Pre 2 just suddenly refuses to boot. Aug 20 22:03:22 yeah people werent running out to get the kin as the price dropped Aug 20 22:03:22 the HP logo throbber is not even animating. Aug 20 22:03:45 stock kernel? Aug 20 22:03:58 yep stock everything. Aug 20 22:04:06 no preware of any kind Aug 20 22:04:14 is there no back button? Aug 20 22:04:30 anyone know of any serial number change program/mechanism? Aug 20 22:04:35 webOS has no back button - there's no going back. :D Aug 20 22:04:46 (i.e. back to the good old days) Aug 20 22:04:48 I am strongly suspecting this demo unit cannot register for a webOS account Aug 20 22:05:02 and I want to change the serial on it to test that theory Aug 20 22:05:25 w00t Aug 20 22:05:30 minpubsub integrated into nomnomnom Aug 20 22:05:32 very nice Aug 20 22:05:33 can you doctor a touchpad? Aug 20 22:05:37 kevets: of course Aug 20 22:06:15 I wasnt sure how similar it was to phones. can impostah do stuff with serial #? Aug 20 22:06:32 And HP is officially out of them. Aug 20 22:07:43 this sux. passed on getting a spare pre2 last night Aug 20 22:08:05 three battery pulls, no dice. Aug 20 22:08:13 Cool, HP cancelled my touchpad order this morning. Aug 20 22:08:26 why is that? Aug 20 22:08:29 rrix: Mine too. Aug 20 22:08:39 My friends, to be exact. Aug 20 22:08:43 did you try redoctoring? Aug 20 22:08:45 lol Aug 20 22:08:48 "order cancelled, please call" Aug 20 22:08:56 No email, I just happened to look it up Aug 20 22:09:10 or, "order cancelled because we're such idiots" Aug 20 22:09:36 if you're asking me - no this just now happened Aug 20 22:09:59 can touchpad do google talk with video Aug 20 22:10:01 "thank you for participating in our financial experiment. - HP" Aug 20 22:10:07 lol Aug 20 22:10:41 yep looks like "innovate" is only about financial engineering these days Aug 20 22:10:43 they better not cancel my order Aug 20 22:10:49 halfhalo: how many did you get? Aug 20 22:10:58 I don't care about the TP, but if they cancel my paper I will be pissed. Aug 20 22:11:06 hahaah Aug 20 22:11:07 Tibfib: Just one. I already have two others Aug 20 22:11:08 HP CS line is down right now Aug 20 22:11:15 halfhalo: nice Aug 20 22:11:27 you can brute force your way through hp.com Aug 20 22:11:28 just steal some paper from the printer at the office when you stop by the company store Aug 20 22:11:29 i just did Aug 20 22:11:36 we don't even need Anonymous to talk hp.com down. Aug 20 22:11:46 142 shipped. Thats cheaper than the company store Aug 20 22:11:47 sampson: what's the link? Aug 20 22:11:51 uhh Aug 20 22:11:57 http://shopping1.hp.com/is-bin/INTERSHOP.enfinity/WFS/WW-USSMBPublicStore-Site/en_US/-/USD/ViewProductDetail-Start?ProductUUID=hH0Q7EN5nJ8AAAEvWNkr_eNP&CatalogCategoryID=UZYQ7hac3LsAAAExQ1cRE3Kg&JumpTo=OfferList#ProductLinkCrossSelling Aug 20 22:12:02 but you don't care about the touchpad... you just want the paper Aug 20 22:12:12 once you get to the part where it keeps screaming out of memory etc Aug 20 22:12:19 just hold down the refresh shortcut for a bit Aug 20 22:12:22 sampson: thanks Aug 20 22:12:23 sampson: Aug 20 22:12:24 http://twitter.com/#!/BrynaAtHP/status/105034159877144577 Aug 20 22:12:24 then let go Aug 20 22:12:26 http://www.google.com/finance?q=NYSE%3AHPQ Aug 20 22:12:30 what an imbecile ceo Aug 20 22:12:34 true, but its fancy photo paper Aug 20 22:13:01 Ah, I read the order wrong Aug 20 22:13:15 because of the PC announcement Aug 20 22:13:23 i doubt webos caused any stock movement Aug 20 22:13:39 Sure it did. Aug 20 22:13:42 I doubt what you doubt Aug 20 22:13:46 i doubt it Aug 20 22:14:01 They invested over $1b for acquistion of Palm alone. Aug 20 22:14:11 i think it is more just the general appearance of cluelessness, of which the webOS thing is a part Aug 20 22:14:27 R&D, Manufacturing, Marketing and such easily took three times that. Aug 20 22:14:29 and probably lost a good chunk more by having to pay the employees Aug 20 22:14:37 and the whole "we're the #1 pc maker, we don't want to make pcs anymore" Aug 20 22:14:49 if they were making money it would be a different story. Aug 20 22:15:03 They are selling off PSG. Palm isn't even a footnote in that transaction. Aug 20 22:15:03 that's what caused the stock movement Aug 20 22:15:23 webos just made more vocal people unhappy Aug 20 22:15:32 ok, so hp was also pretty high up there in test equipment and medical equipment... but yet they still successfully spun off agilent Aug 20 22:16:03 if you define yourself as a just a PC company, then sure, it looks bad Aug 20 22:16:09 but they're not Aug 20 22:16:11 webos apps look terrible on the touchpad Aug 20 22:16:19 .... Aug 20 22:16:21 I beg to differ Aug 20 22:16:32 apps designed for the phone Aug 20 22:16:37 perhaps you meant "mojo"? Aug 20 22:16:39 anyone know of a way to create a webOS account without the touchpad? Aug 20 22:16:49 HP will always have their server division Aug 20 22:16:57 webOS apps are webOS apps. whether for phone or touchpad. Aug 20 22:17:00 That business is doing well Aug 20 22:17:07 ok i got a reboot but can't connect w/putty. devmode is on. Aug 20 22:17:32 but, "Server unexpectedly closed network connection" Aug 20 22:18:25 bbl ... Aug 20 22:19:24 Deihmos: PC announcement? Aug 20 22:19:52 Firesale on notebooks 2? Aug 20 22:20:23 why do some of the apps say they are for touchpad yet they launch in a tiny box Aug 20 22:20:38 yes the PC announcement caused the stock drop Aug 20 22:21:04 heh, dell's stock rose Aug 20 22:21:09 webos was a risky business to begin with. If the current CEO was there I am sure it would have never happened Aug 20 22:21:19 def Aug 20 22:22:20 how do you know which apps are for the tablet Aug 20 22:22:43 None Aug 20 22:22:53 :D Aug 20 22:23:20 Noone finished writing them yet Aug 20 22:23:32 B4 it got burried Aug 20 22:23:57 seriously Aug 20 22:24:49 i thought there were a few hundred touchpad specific apps Aug 20 22:25:03 is there some VM environment for developing for HP webOS where maybe I could try to create a WebOS on that VM? Aug 20 22:25:21 *WebOS account Aug 20 22:25:30 they really need to do something about the slow loading Aug 20 22:25:44 feels like the pre Aug 20 22:27:36 is there no way to differentiate touchpad apps from phone apps? Aug 20 22:27:41 adamrb, the SDK includes a VM Aug 20 22:27:49 ok ... rebooted pc and pre2 and still can't connect via putty w/devmode on Aug 20 22:28:16 "Server unexpectedly closed network connection" Aug 20 22:29:54 mew mew Aug 20 22:30:17 NOOO Aug 20 22:30:19 my cart loaded Aug 20 22:30:23 and then I removed a tp from it Aug 20 22:30:26 so it had to reload Aug 20 22:30:34 and now it won't reload again. :( Aug 20 22:30:39 sucks Aug 20 22:32:49 Jojo got played Aug 20 22:33:42 hm ok it looks like dropbear somehow mysteriously uninstalled, coincident w/my pre2 suddely locking up and becoming unbootable just an hour or so agao Aug 20 22:33:44 ago Aug 20 22:34:10 usb mode and doctor? Aug 20 22:34:29 no doctor yet. "just charge" mode Aug 20 22:35:06 my data isn't backed up so no doctoring for me yet Aug 20 22:35:27 boot to usb mode and backup Aug 20 22:35:30 where does the database for SMS'es live? Aug 20 22:35:32 if its not totally fubard Aug 20 22:35:40 i've got some priceless ones on this device. ;) Aug 20 22:35:48 not accessible from usb mode i dont think Aug 20 22:35:59 yep that's what i was afraid of Aug 20 22:36:31 i cant remember Aug 20 22:36:38 i know i snagged my messaging databse Aug 20 22:36:43 but i dont know from where Aug 20 22:36:50 its in /var tho Aug 20 22:36:57 ok i reinstalled dropbear and can get back in over putty .. that's something. Aug 20 22:37:27 however this device so far has suddenly today refused to boot unless it's connected via usb. there is plenty of charge on the battery Aug 20 22:37:51 /var/luna/data/dbdata/PalmDatabase.db3 Aug 20 22:38:09 thanks! Aug 20 22:38:25 Update server is down? Aug 20 22:38:29 hah Aug 20 22:38:30 update? Aug 20 22:38:43 3.0.2. Aug 20 22:38:53 They're coming with 3.0.0? Aug 20 22:39:12 I'd love to see some app download stats Aug 20 22:39:13 :) Aug 20 22:39:18 if the catalog is even up, that is. Aug 20 22:39:34 wait ... i have /var/luna/data but no dbdata dir Aug 20 22:40:22 Hello Aug 20 22:40:24 there are barely any touchpad apps for this Aug 20 22:40:45 from /var, find . -name PalmDatabase.db3 -print yields nothing Aug 20 22:41:04 but my sms'es are visible in the messaging app Aug 20 22:44:23 only .db3 files in /var are ./luna/data/filenotify.db3 and ./luna/data/til_messaging.db3 Aug 20 22:45:18 Tibfib: mine are pretty swell, i must say Aug 20 22:45:33 fxspec06: yeah, I like yesterday's numbers a lot Aug 20 22:45:46 Anyone get a TouchPad today? and get NomNomNom? Aug 20 22:45:50 wanna beta test? Aug 20 22:46:06 yeah and what about Wildn Video Poker? or clearview? Aug 20 22:46:13 I found someone on eBay selling them for 120 Aug 20 22:46:16 lol Aug 20 22:46:44 he could probably sell them for $250 Aug 20 22:46:46 not bad Aug 20 22:46:48 what does the WebOS account actually get me? Can I use the device without it? Aug 20 22:47:05 Tech support is saying because it is a demo unit it can't have a WebOS account Aug 20 22:47:06 you can't use the paid app catalog without it Aug 20 22:47:40 and you don't have access to backup and restore Aug 20 22:47:48 so nothing lost Aug 20 22:47:54 :) Aug 20 22:48:01 no, that's not true at all Aug 20 22:48:07 can the setup actually continue though without a webOS account? Aug 20 22:48:08 backup and restore is HUGE IMO Aug 20 22:48:15 or do I have to do some dirty hax Aug 20 22:48:15 Nash Aug 20 22:48:18 naah Aug 20 22:48:22 not really Aug 20 22:48:26 don't listen to adam Aug 20 22:48:31 kamu* Aug 20 22:48:38 Kabuki Aug 20 22:48:43 kamui Aug 20 22:48:48 get it right Aug 20 22:48:48 well I guess my choice is return it to radio shack or keep it if I can use it Aug 20 22:48:51 loose Aug 20 22:48:53 lols Aug 20 22:48:58 I'm just goofing Aug 20 22:49:04 did you try running a doctor on it? Aug 20 22:49:12 yeah I nuked it to a clean state Aug 20 22:49:24 and it won't let you create or sign into a profile Aug 20 22:49:34 I don't know about signing in...I don't have a profile Aug 20 22:49:39 it won't let me create one though Aug 20 22:49:47 how did you get it? Aug 20 22:49:54 still 50 50 myself on throwing away 100 bills. my pre2 is still getting some use, but there aren't a lot of apps Aug 20 22:49:58 I bought the last unit at radio shack...it was a demo unit Aug 20 22:50:01 display unit Aug 20 22:50:11 they shouldn't have let you buy it Aug 20 22:50:38 you actually paid for a demo unit Aug 20 22:50:41 i would call the webOS hp division first thing monday morning and talk to them Aug 20 22:50:59 yaaaa you know what is turning into? people want to buy something they normally don't want to because it's suddenly the "it" thing to get in on Aug 20 22:51:01 yeah I found they actually had a "direct from warehouse" option after I bought it...they are out of stock now. Aug 20 22:51:08 I doubt they care fxspec06. Aug 20 22:51:27 this is true Aug 20 22:52:02 well then, take it back to radioshack Aug 20 22:52:15 return policy ftw! Aug 20 22:54:32 when first hearing about 99$ for 16gb = gotta get one, but after not finding one, ended up paying 188 for 32gb after taxes+shipping... Aug 20 22:54:45 well I guess I will be returning it Aug 20 22:54:47 just because its the only one i could get my hands on... and its double what i initially wanted to spend Aug 20 22:56:02 pdf app is horrible Aug 20 22:57:35 that stinks adam -.- Aug 20 22:57:53 plov but would you have paid $450 for it and been as happy? Aug 20 22:58:21 dawm: I would have, had I had the $$$ Aug 20 22:58:28 ( but that's me ) Aug 20 22:58:52 really? Aug 20 22:59:01 so far I am not impressed with the device at all Aug 20 22:59:16 dawm|laptop: absolutely not Aug 20 22:59:32 Lawl Aug 20 22:59:35 I love making people mad Aug 20 23:00:05 that's kind of your thing isnt it? Aug 20 23:00:13 i mean you've been trolling for 12 hours Aug 20 23:00:30 plov: I have? Aug 20 23:00:37 ya! Aug 20 23:00:44 and ebay has them for 130$ apparently Aug 20 23:00:46 where? Aug 20 23:00:57 im putting mine on ebay for $1000 Aug 20 23:01:13 yes, really. i would definitely pay $599 for 32gb / 64gb touchpad Aug 20 23:01:43 no, i would not pay that much for an ipad Aug 20 23:02:12 you have to be a big fan Aug 20 23:02:12 unless i watned to dev for it of course :p Aug 20 23:03:15 if you watch the counter on this ebay auction... Aug 20 23:03:24 its like selling 100 per minute lol Aug 20 23:03:33 lmao Aug 20 23:03:48 6.200 sold~ right now, how does this place have so many in stock? Aug 20 23:04:07 oh apparently just solid out Aug 20 23:04:09 plov: link Aug 20 23:04:12 NEVERMIND JERK Aug 20 23:04:13 http://www.ebay.com/itm/310332864546?ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1439.l2649#ht_2468wt_1100 Aug 20 23:04:32 if you guys need an app to keep you busy, chek this out: http://forum.webosroundup.com/index.php?threads/wildn-video-poker-hd-99.486/ Aug 20 23:04:40 20 profit, not bad Aug 20 23:04:53 Tibfib: ya not bad at all Aug 20 23:05:37 * TammyK pokes dtzwill Aug 20 23:05:49 whats with the gfx in that game? Aug 20 23:05:57 they just sold like 6k touchpads in like 5 mnins Aug 20 23:05:58 they dont look properly done for that resolution Aug 20 23:06:07 they are Aug 20 23:06:10 i find the touchpad a bit too laggy Aug 20 23:06:26 its laggy but with all logging off and overclock its not terrible Aug 20 23:06:31 ok then the effects arent that cool Aug 20 23:06:39 how do i get logging off Aug 20 23:06:41 needs new ui Aug 20 23:06:58 just to make a skype call it flashes in the background forever Aug 20 23:07:44 this is a video of 1.0.3, with lower resolution images: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w5m2nlPDHkI&feature=feedf Aug 20 23:08:06 1.0.9 everything been redone. ui is not changing Aug 20 23:08:28 gotcha Aug 20 23:08:42 just my opinion but the gfx suck Aug 20 23:09:24 fair enough Aug 20 23:09:37 too much bevel on the cards i think Aug 20 23:09:49 goofy bevel/gloss on the numbers Aug 20 23:10:11 do taps have feedback? Aug 20 23:10:20 ie a down state when touching a card Aug 20 23:10:36 nope Aug 20 23:10:46 oh cool shades btw :P Aug 20 23:11:06 lol that's not me in the video Aug 20 23:12:16 i will use this as a viideo player and bookreader Aug 20 23:12:26 i dont read books Aug 20 23:12:28 is there a video app that supports mkv and others Aug 20 23:12:35 Does the TouchPad have some sort of activation scheme like the phones do? Eg. if you activate it in the wrong country, no paid apps etc. for you Aug 20 23:12:42 I don't anything else i can use it for Aug 20 23:13:04 when i get mine on monday, i'll use it for everything i am capable of Aug 20 23:13:07 photo frame Aug 20 23:13:15 dawm: the cards flip Aug 20 23:13:30 i saw that Aug 20 23:13:31 if you go to ~3:15 in the video you can see what i'm tlaking about Aug 20 23:13:39 but i meant when youre holding a card Aug 20 23:13:49 no theres' no feedback Aug 20 23:13:58 a slight tweak to its position when mouse down Aug 20 23:14:00 would be kinda cool though Aug 20 23:14:03 or tint would be nice Aug 20 23:14:09 yeah Aug 20 23:14:16 it makes a damn good book reader Aug 20 23:14:18 something other than the touch ripple Aug 20 23:14:23 i want to do down states for the menu buttons too Aug 20 23:14:41 position tweak or opacity are the easiest Aug 20 23:14:56 i hate when i have to make money Aug 20 23:15:17 oh yeah i can do opacity change for button states. never even thought of that Aug 20 23:15:20 =p Aug 20 23:15:44 sorry i didnt notice any of this sooner, sorta been lurking but never really paying attention lately Aug 20 23:15:59 plov: i didn't know datavis was selling those on ebay again Aug 20 23:16:12 i got mine from them and have been calling them all day to try to get the price matches Aug 20 23:16:15 matched* Aug 20 23:16:21 they don't pick up the phone Aug 20 23:16:32 touchfeedback is always nice to have as it helps give the use a sense of actually touching it Aug 20 23:16:42 http://twitter.com/#!/NeoApotheker - lmao Aug 20 23:17:37 this is true. it's actually on a list in a folder somewhere of things i want to put in, but i've been busy w/ other things Aug 20 23:17:43 pdf app doesn't even have a search or a way to type page number Aug 20 23:18:29 complain complain complain Aug 20 23:19:12 :P Aug 20 23:19:37 poor hitler Aug 20 23:19:58 lol Aug 20 23:20:12 man I could see why it didn't sell Aug 20 23:20:26 if i bought this for 400 i would take it back Aug 20 23:20:39 you can still take it back, even if you paid less Aug 20 23:20:54 ya but for 99/150 its worth it Aug 20 23:21:05 I don't think he thinks so Aug 20 23:21:11 it will make a good device to look at videos. I live in NYC and take the subway Aug 20 23:21:56 "videos" he says Aug 20 23:22:08 ok ... i finally realized that the last thing i did differently before my pre2 started acting up was to connect to public wifi, likely with dev mode enabled. Aug 20 23:23:14 might my device have gotten hacked? Aug 20 23:23:23 what would having dev mode enabled have anything to do with it acting up Aug 20 23:23:31 i don't know. Aug 20 23:23:46 i'm not a webos dev stud Aug 20 23:24:01 see above - i connected to public wifi with dev mode enabled Aug 20 23:24:08 bartholemew: did you install an ssh server on it? Aug 20 23:24:32 even if connected to public wifi, unless there is sshd listening, you can't connect to it Aug 20 23:25:03 yes dropbear was on the device Aug 20 23:25:16 there is a risk, then Aug 20 23:25:27 hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm Aug 20 23:25:27 oops Aug 20 23:25:43 backup, doctor, renew! Aug 20 23:26:01 eye eye, captain Aug 20 23:26:11 "eye eye"? Aug 20 23:26:27 isn't that wat they say? eye eye captain Aug 20 23:26:31 aye aye Aug 20 23:26:34 ah Aug 20 23:26:53 aye aye, captain Aug 20 23:27:01 pirates only have one /eye/ Aug 20 23:27:41 how do we use our dev discount? Aug 20 23:27:48 say please Aug 20 23:28:17 lol Tibfib Aug 20 23:28:20 er TammyK Aug 20 23:28:35 you need to ask, very nicely. and use the magic word Aug 20 23:28:35 * Tibfib is going to pretend sugardave lol'd at him anyway Aug 20 23:28:44 DANGIT Aug 20 23:28:48 I'm like the 4th T now Aug 20 23:28:50 jerks Aug 20 23:28:50 so... I couldn't afford a $200 TP on ebay, but I couldn't pass up a $99 TP at wally world Aug 20 23:28:51 all of you Aug 20 23:28:59 tabasko, TammyK, tessi, thehodge, Tibfib Aug 20 23:29:00 come on. Aug 20 23:29:01 * akanster shoots Tibfib Aug 20 23:29:18 eat that. Aug 20 23:29:25 Microsoft VBScript compilation error Out of memory Aug 20 23:29:26 wee! Aug 20 23:29:31 so... for those still making apps you have at least 2 more people to sell to (me and the BF) Aug 20 23:29:35 * fxspec06 is the last F on the list Aug 20 23:29:43 (out of two f's) Aug 20 23:29:49 RagingMind: NOMNOMNOM Aug 20 23:29:59 Taaaaabfib: ? Aug 20 23:30:08 got your palmpad? Aug 20 23:30:13 nooooosiiiiiiiir Aug 20 23:30:18 monday Aug 20 23:30:19 RagingMind: wildn video poker! Aug 20 23:30:20 it's weird... I have *current* webOS hardware again :) Aug 20 23:30:21 ah Aug 20 23:30:36 i'll know what that feels like very soon Aug 20 23:30:38 I hate poker... Aug 20 23:30:43 I HATE PEOPLE Aug 20 23:30:49 i hate webos. Aug 20 23:30:53 I'm cracking. Aug 20 23:30:58 and school hasn't even started Aug 20 23:31:05 :/ Aug 20 23:31:14 Tibfib, we can get out some crazy glue to try and keep you together? Aug 20 23:31:17 RagingMind: ITS NOT CURRENT! Aug 20 23:31:19 * dtzWill waves to TammyK Aug 20 23:31:22 ^.^ Aug 20 23:31:37 :( Aug 20 23:31:41 akanster: it's the -latest- Aug 20 23:31:43 RagingMind: lots of it Aug 20 23:31:54 fxspec06: nope, touchpad 4g, touchpad go Aug 20 23:31:54 aww Aug 20 23:31:55 well no, i guess it's not even the latest, unless you have the 64gb version Aug 20 23:31:58 I'm no jerk, Tibfib Aug 20 23:31:58 fxspec06: sure... just like the Sega Saturn is current Aug 20 23:32:02 * dtzWill waves to Tibfib too Aug 20 23:32:05 it is the latest Aug 20 23:32:10 it's current from what's likely to see the light of day in the US Aug 20 23:32:30 TammyK, no not a jerk. just not as cool as you were before you one uped me in the alphabet Aug 20 23:32:45 uped? Aug 20 23:32:49 up'd Aug 20 23:32:53 upped Aug 20 23:32:56 upped? Aug 20 23:33:20 * Tibfib never knew that was a word Aug 20 23:33:34 the more you know... Aug 20 23:33:38 heh Aug 20 23:33:41 hehe Aug 20 23:33:53 ...the more you can charge Aug 20 23:34:05 lol Aug 20 23:34:10 so, honestly... how many of you are going to stick it out with webOS? Aug 20 23:34:23 devs, I mean Aug 20 23:34:30 I'm not going to pull my apps Aug 20 23:34:36 newegg.com still wants full price Aug 20 23:34:39 I dev in spirit Aug 20 23:34:41 and I have a bit more work to do on nomnomnom... but I'm not making any new apps. Aug 20 23:34:51 gonna start learning wp7 Aug 20 23:34:52 and I won't be pulling my shitty Mojo apps Aug 20 23:34:55 see if I like it Aug 20 23:34:56 will you still push bug fixes? Aug 20 23:35:02 of course Aug 20 23:35:09 I'll still fully support my current apps Aug 20 23:37:02 i don't really know yet. i still need to get a feel for how well my current apps will do Aug 20 23:37:33 i may make an app or two. Aug 20 23:38:16 What's up with that Windows mobile guy on twitter? Can't tell if he actually cares or is super ass kissing Aug 20 23:39:11 TammyK: he seems pretty genuine to me Aug 20 23:39:19 if we are talking about the same guy Aug 20 23:39:32 TammyK: Trollface? Aug 20 23:40:20 i thought he was genuine Aug 20 23:40:22 TammyK: BrandonWatson has been wooing devs from other platforms for the last year now. He saw this opportunity with webOS guys and jumped on it. Aug 20 23:40:36 Yeah, seemed like a good business decision. Aug 20 23:40:47 i actaully never thought that he wasn't genuine until someone pointed out last night Aug 20 23:41:37 I simply can't see moving to windows after dev'ing for WebOS Aug 20 23:42:06 32GB Touchpads? I'll take 2. Aug 20 23:42:06 i would like to learn to dev for all platforms eventually, just to know how Aug 20 23:42:08 hemna: I'm pretty excited for it as a user, as a dev, a little apprehensive Aug 20 23:42:20 Shadyman: any more news on your front? Aug 20 23:42:30 akanster: Got 2 at Staples today. Can' Aug 20 23:42:39 sooo any news on where the heck to find the TP. its flying everywhere Aug 20 23:42:39 can't call HPshopping.ca because they're 8AM-8PM M-F Aug 20 23:42:41 I'll stick with WebOS until it's officially dead Aug 20 23:42:46 Abyssul-Pre: Good luck with that. Aug 20 23:42:47 who knows what will happen with it Aug 20 23:43:05 hemna: long live the weebos! Aug 20 23:43:06 all my places sold out 30 mins after opening Aug 20 23:43:11 I think having 1/2-million installed users will help webos Aug 20 23:43:15 Abyssul-Pre: Try 5 minutes. Aug 20 23:43:23 I'll probably stick with webos past its death Aug 20 23:43:35 we had doorcrashers today, and everyone came for the touchpad instead of the 1.5TB external drive for $69 Aug 20 23:43:44 Shadyman: of course it will Aug 20 23:43:50 I've never been a fanboy of anything, until WebOS came around. It really burns what HP has done to it. It really is an awesome platform. Aug 20 23:43:53 shadyman,yeah I heard of those stories Aug 20 23:43:59 DAMN i woulda got that external drive! Aug 20 23:44:07 i need another so badly Aug 20 23:44:16 hemna: I'd like to see an HTC webOS phone Aug 20 23:44:41 Shadyman, I'd like to see any h/w mfgr pick it up at this point and announce it soon. Aug 20 23:44:48 heh Aug 20 23:45:02 chances are slim to none, but we can hope Aug 20 23:45:33 don't bury it before it's dead ;) Aug 20 23:45:39 chances were slim to none for the bruins to win the stanley cup this year Aug 20 23:46:07 sports != webos Aug 20 23:47:55 i wonder whatever happened to that netflix app? Aug 20 23:48:09 was that another thing that got scrapped lol Aug 20 23:48:20 i don't understand why after all this time the software is so unoptimized Aug 20 23:48:28 me either Aug 20 23:48:39 we've been stuck on 2.1 for ever Aug 20 23:48:52 and it's STILL only 2.1 (on phones) Aug 20 23:49:28 ive got 5.6 on my phone Aug 20 23:49:33 didnt you get the memo? Aug 20 23:49:47 5.6.3 actually Aug 20 23:49:54 you're just too cool Aug 20 23:50:01 i know people Aug 20 23:50:19 i know some people that know some people that killed some people Aug 20 23:50:56 me too Aug 20 23:51:03 they live in detroit Aug 20 23:51:37 anyone hear back from that brandon guy @ MS? Aug 20 23:51:40 i havent yet Aug 20 23:52:10 I just went ahead and emailed him Aug 20 23:52:20 i did to Aug 20 23:52:21 o Aug 20 23:52:41 yeah, haven't heard back. Aug 20 23:52:51 he said he had 200+ emails alone Aug 20 23:53:24 gonna check this out now Aug 20 23:53:25 https://twitter.com/brandonwatson/status/104948858181779458 Aug 20 23:54:29 holy crap Aug 20 23:54:33 2 8hr sessions? Aug 20 23:54:38 yep! Aug 20 23:54:39 I signed up Aug 20 23:54:44 I'll be there for the tues one Aug 20 23:54:56 as will twbbas_ Aug 20 23:55:30 fudge Aug 20 23:55:36 i have to work tomorrow all day and the next Aug 20 23:56:10 hopefully itll be archived Aug 20 23:57:56 yep Aug 20 23:57:59 will be archived Aug 20 23:58:06 woot Aug 20 23:58:15 its sad Aug 20 23:58:18 wow https://twitter.com/#!/webosinternals/status/105064773770674177 Aug 20 23:58:23 i left my shitty winmo phone for webos Aug 20 23:58:32 now im offered to go to winfo Aug 20 23:59:39 ugh Aug 20 23:59:47 so sick of hearing about rooting the touchpad Aug 20 23:59:53 such a thing doesnt exist Aug 21 00:00:15 yep, rwhitby is comfronting the OP of that thread now over at #webos-internals Aug 21 00:00:52 the guy lives in cambridge. that's only a few towns over Aug 21 00:01:04 trsohmers Aug 21 00:01:13 yea? Aug 21 00:01:20 oh Aug 21 00:02:09 oh hey trsohmers! Aug 21 00:03:07 i am fearful of being flamed for this, but why is there no such thing as rooting a touchpad? curious because i just ordered one for $129 from office depot Aug 21 00:03:14 rwhitby: Re: that last tweet: One thing I've always liked about the WebOS homebrew community is the ethics and keeping everything above board as much as it possibly can be. The Android community really doesn't do that. Aug 21 00:03:27 jmichaelx: It comes that way out of the box? Aug 21 00:03:49 You don't root a WebOS device, you enable developer mode. Aug 21 00:04:12 Hendikins is correct, webos is badass like that Aug 21 00:04:26 Hendikins: your question mark is not necessary, unless you are indicating your uncertainty. i was asking a question because i honestly did not know Aug 21 00:06:17 how did you JUST order one from officedepot? Aug 21 00:06:25 they've been out of stock since this early morning Aug 21 00:07:39 plov: long story. i drove an hour early this morning to an office depot that had 'limited availability', according to the website... i was the next in line after their last touchpad was sold, and they offered to order one for me, which i accepted Aug 21 00:07:51 http://twitter.com/#!/BrynaAtHP/status/105066043277447168 Aug 21 00:08:47 now that's HP scale! Aug 21 00:09:16 plov: to be honest, it will not shock me if i get a card in the mail saying that they cannot ship me one, because they are out of stock... but i do have a receipt, and an estimated delivery date (8-24) Aug 21 00:09:53 I didnt feel like waiting in line at office depot this morning Aug 21 00:10:03 i'm think HP will have some back in stock soon Aug 21 00:10:39 Bmyers: well if they do... Aug 21 00:10:54 you might be at work, sleeping, out, doing something , etc. Aug 21 00:11:03 other retailers have some on the way too. my mom works at office depot and she said they expect a shipment monday locally. Aug 21 00:11:16 pretty much if you don't order within 10mins of them announcing its back in stock you're not getting one again :P Aug 21 00:11:17 Bmyers: you will be better off if they do, as yo might get one for $99, instead of $129 from office depot Aug 21 00:11:21 unless they have a TON of stock coming in Aug 21 00:11:45 would prefer 99. or just save my pennies for an ipad Aug 21 00:11:50 I'm going to be trying to see what I can do locally here. I can promise that the place I got mine from will sell out instantly if they let us have US pricing. Aug 21 00:11:53 a shipment from who? Aug 21 00:12:01 * jmichaelx is not complaining about having paid $129 Aug 21 00:12:03 yeah. id rather order from hP than office depot. Aug 21 00:13:45 Hendikins: i am very impressed by this whole dev mode/ root setup. thx for the info. would to god that android were like that Aug 21 00:14:09 Anyone know of a Netflix app for TouchPad? Or something similar for streaming videos? Aug 21 00:14:14 i was surprised that so many ppl cared about getting one Aug 21 00:14:17 so where's this info about other retailers getting more stock? from where? Aug 21 00:14:20 locally i mean Aug 21 00:15:04 Bmyers: i was at an office depot in fort wayne, in, 10 minutes before opening, and 2 people were already there waiting Aug 21 00:15:12 supposedly people are saying when they restock it'll be a huge amount... but how are they restocking heh? i mean if there's tons in a warehouse, why not accept orders? Aug 21 00:15:17 of course, they only had 2 Aug 21 00:15:29 my local one had 4 Aug 21 00:15:52 with 8 ppl waiting in line for them Aug 21 00:15:57 yea Aug 21 00:16:17 and the people at office depot were clueless about the whole thing Aug 21 00:16:22 ah well. I'd rather have something i can devel for anyway Aug 21 00:16:51 i am hoping that webos goes on as an active platform Aug 21 00:17:20 i'm hoping santa claus bring me cupcakes. Aug 21 00:17:28 but i dont think its gonna happen Aug 21 00:17:35 webos is dead. Aug 21 00:17:40 trololo Aug 21 00:17:40 no its not Aug 21 00:17:41 hp killed it Aug 21 00:17:41 Bmyers: however, cyanogenmod devs are already working on getting android 2.3 functional on the touchpad Aug 21 00:17:47 its live and well on all our obsolete devices Aug 21 00:17:51 Huh. What's the mac address for touchpads start with? Aug 21 00:18:04 as a hack platform sure. Aug 21 00:18:14 yes, a hack platform Aug 21 00:18:14 BC-AE-C5, F4-CE-46, or 00-1D-FE? Aug 21 00:18:24 but as far as a developer making money from webos... Aug 21 00:18:28 yea Aug 21 00:18:36 I had a radioshack ask me why so many people kept calling for the TP lol. had to explain the situation Aug 21 00:18:54 android is alive, but still not always much dev money to go around Aug 21 00:18:55 you should have just said 'because racecar' Aug 21 00:19:04 jmichaelx: we'll see but i'll be amazed if it happens Aug 21 00:19:16 there have been quite a few android efforts in the history of webos and not a damn thing came out of any of them Aug 21 00:19:26 sampson: i am no expert, but i believe that it will happen Aug 21 00:19:30 sampson: all hoaxs Aug 21 00:19:37 nice 156 ppl in here! Aug 21 00:19:44 trsohmers is working on an android port Aug 21 00:19:47 and iirc at least with the pre- when i was all into hacking around a lot of the hardware drivers aren't open Aug 21 00:19:47 not quite a hoax. Aug 21 00:19:57 The answer is 00-01-FE Aug 21 00:20:01 Tibfib: i meant the previous efforts Aug 21 00:20:07 ah Aug 21 00:20:09 yeah Aug 21 00:20:12 granted in the last 3 years android has come a long way so it may be that drivers exist for the hardware now Aug 21 00:20:24 but like omap6 didn't have much support except for the droid iirc Aug 21 00:20:31 i like android. luv my evo Aug 21 00:20:36 had it for a year now Aug 21 00:20:44 if the droid people cooperate with webosinternals it could happen Aug 21 00:21:06 no sense making enemies of the experts Aug 21 00:21:18 so i5 or new android? which should I get "in the coming months" ?? Aug 21 00:21:24 yeah but rob at least in the past wanted nothing to do with android efforts Aug 21 00:21:37 doesn't surprise me Aug 21 00:21:39 and considerin gthe amount of work webos-internals put into the system i doubt they care much to throw it all to the shitter Aug 21 00:21:49 but I hope he would help out for a dual-boot system Aug 21 00:21:55 I would never soley install android Aug 21 00:21:57 http://www.electronista.com/articles/11/08/20/hp.touchpad.clears.out.at.high.speed/ Aug 21 00:21:58 but I'd dual boot Aug 21 00:22:04 ubuntu on TP :p Aug 21 00:22:09 rumor is 350k sold this weekend Aug 21 00:22:15 dang Aug 21 00:22:16 i wonder if theres any thought on chromeOS on the TP Aug 21 00:22:18 * jmichaelx is not claiming this article is authoritative Aug 21 00:22:22 sampson? 350k? thats too low Aug 21 00:22:29 Abyssul-Pre: very true Aug 21 00:22:35 gonna put ubuntu on mine Aug 21 00:22:37 idk just what ars had posted Aug 21 00:22:41 ubuntu on TP would be awesome Aug 21 00:22:55 perfect time for HTC to drop the pre3 with beats!!!! I can dream right Aug 21 00:23:02 everyplace is sold out, there is an estimated 1.5 mil in the wild Aug 21 00:23:35 thoughts of nomnomnom sales make me happy Aug 21 00:23:36 I wish for a touch to share patch Aug 21 00:23:59 neato! work on touchpad? Aug 21 00:24:04 yep Aug 21 00:24:08 you can install debian inside webos Aug 21 00:24:09 if bestbuy had 250k, how many do you think HP, walmart, Amazon, and other had? Aug 21 00:24:10 sweet Aug 21 00:24:11 at least you could idk about now Aug 21 00:24:23 no x11 or anything Aug 21 00:24:36 http://h41112.www4.hp.com/promo/webos/us/en/tablet/touchpad-availability.html Aug 21 00:24:42 sampson: i would prefer native install... if all hardware were working Aug 21 00:24:44 officedepot was selling 16 for 129 and 32 for 150 Aug 21 00:24:53 ziplock503: They be trollin' Aug 21 00:24:55 oh nevermind, x11 was working on the pre Aug 21 00:25:01 partners were asked to do 99/149 Aug 21 00:25:04 jmichaelx: why would you need native? webos is linux Aug 21 00:25:06 just chroot Aug 21 00:25:22 that's what the website said Aug 21 00:25:26 http://forums.precentral.net/hp-touchpad/292521-hp-best-buy-rep-watch-samsung-htc.html **rumor alert** Aug 21 00:25:55 "The HP rep was very optimistic. He left saying watch for an announcement within the next two weeks about a hardware partner. Possibly both HTC and Samsung." Aug 21 00:26:03 no rep at a retail store knows what huge companies are doing Aug 21 00:26:13 i'll take that with a truckload of salt Aug 21 00:26:14 what "rep" said that? Aug 21 00:26:20 touch to share with my samsung tv!?! Aug 21 00:26:21 lol, sver too busy Aug 21 00:26:25 server* Aug 21 00:26:25 hrm Aug 21 00:26:37 i have a bud that has a pre and works somewhat high up locally at bestbuy Aug 21 00:26:41 lemme shoot him an email Aug 21 00:26:42 it sounds plausable Aug 21 00:26:54 it sounds entirely plausible* Aug 21 00:27:07 good thing I never got that job selling touchpads @ bestbuy id be fired before I started Aug 21 00:27:08 not at all Aug 21 00:27:15 if any of that were true Aug 21 00:27:15 sampson: chroot would be fine, but if webos is dead, i would something like debian/ubuntu without webos Aug 21 00:27:17 haha Aug 21 00:27:21 HP would've said something at the shareholder meeting Aug 21 00:27:27 to stop the 20% nosedive their stock took Aug 21 00:27:28 when someone wants a tablet at best buy, i sned them to our "tablet specialist" Aug 21 00:27:33 33 Aug 21 00:27:40 ubuntu on a tablet is hell Aug 21 00:27:41 and when he asks me questions that he can't answer for the customer, i call him an idiot and answer the questions Aug 21 00:27:45 sampson: do you understand how stupid HP is? Aug 21 00:27:45 sampson: how many companies have you run? Aug 21 00:27:48 what you all think about webOS death then? Aug 21 00:27:49 I have ubuntu running on my HP Slate Aug 21 00:27:49 just curious Aug 21 00:27:50 it's horrid Aug 21 00:28:00 lol I had an interview but no luck Aug 21 00:28:05 ubuntu in general is horrible Aug 21 00:28:18 webos will live underground or on htc Aug 21 00:28:20 I like ubuntu on my netbook Aug 21 00:28:27 lol @ netbook Aug 21 00:28:27 webos id dead Aug 21 00:28:28 ubuntu in general is amazing Aug 21 00:28:28 ubuntu lts is nice Aug 21 00:28:30 fxspec06: i help run a company that pulls in over 20 million in revenue yearly Aug 21 00:28:34 They're going to continue making OTA patches and updates Aug 21 00:28:47 I hope my pre 2 get tts Aug 21 00:28:47 rats Aug 21 00:28:50 hes a droid boy now Aug 21 00:28:59 lol Aug 21 00:29:02 evo Aug 21 00:29:21 htc makes nice hardware Aug 21 00:29:27 how does anyone know what HP would or wouldn't have done Aug 21 00:29:27 nexus s 2 better then evo 3d? Aug 21 00:29:42 i dont have the 3d evo Aug 21 00:29:45 mistresses Aug 21 00:29:47 fxspec06: from an investor standpoint it makes absolutely no sense Aug 21 00:29:49 I love the evo 3d Aug 21 00:29:50 I use ubuntu as my main desktop and it's fine...if you don't use KDE4, Gnome3 or Unity. But on a slate w/o a keyboard and mouse is terrible Aug 21 00:29:51 nobody knew they were going to anything the way they have up until this point Aug 21 00:29:51 still happy on my yr old evo Aug 21 00:29:58 i fthink stock android isn't that good Aug 21 00:30:02 does it really look "3d" Aug 21 00:30:05 from an investor standpoint, NOTHING they have done lately makes any sense Aug 21 00:30:12 so why should that make sense now? Aug 21 00:30:13 fxspec06, nope Aug 21 00:30:13 well I shoudl say sence is better than using stock android Aug 21 00:30:28 if something is unpredictable, then why should it all of a sudden have order? Aug 21 00:30:29 fxspec06, buy a 1.2bn company for it's hardware and s/w and then kill the hardware not but 18 months later Aug 21 00:30:42 but nobody here is HP Aug 21 00:30:51 we can all say this and that Aug 21 00:30:52 I put my money on htc since they bought 51% of beats for 300 mill and pre 3 already has beats inside it Aug 21 00:30:56 but what happens is what happens Aug 21 00:30:59 fxspec06: to announce what they did at their meeting and if they had something like that as a potential backup Aug 21 00:31:09 in the same announcement they say they are buying a company for $10bn that only makes $500mn a year....20 years later HP breaks even Aug 21 00:31:10 they would've mentioned *something* about working out licensing with some hardware vendors Aug 21 00:31:16 yes, it's risky. yes, it's crazy. yes none of it makes sense Aug 21 00:31:21 so waht? Aug 21 00:31:32 because, some dipshit rep for BB wouldn't know this shit if the share holders don't Aug 21 00:31:39 maybe they were losing too much money and realized they are in for a long and expensive battle Aug 21 00:31:40 what if it is true, and it is happens? are you going to deny that it didn't happen? Aug 21 00:31:52 webos market share is like 1% the last I looked Aug 21 00:31:52 sampson, shareholders are the last to know Aug 21 00:31:52 anything is a possibility Aug 21 00:31:59 you can't rule out ANYTHING as a possibility Aug 21 00:32:02 it would be foolish Aug 21 00:32:08 no, i'll concede but it's the most retarded possibility i've read in a long time Aug 21 00:32:09 a nice big 4.2" screen on htc hardware with webos would be cool Aug 21 00:32:20 okay then Aug 21 00:32:28 no Bmyers Aug 21 00:32:31 just no Aug 21 00:32:33 lol Aug 21 00:32:48 lol, sign up to find out about touchpads, fill out form, server too busy Aug 21 00:32:54 link Aug 21 00:33:07 http://twitter.com/#!/BrynaAtHP/status/105069587451744256 Aug 21 00:33:33 what about pre 2?!? lol Aug 21 00:33:50 sold mine the other day Aug 21 00:33:56 FFS Aug 21 00:33:58 I am trying to sign up for notification and all i get is server busy Aug 21 00:34:01 it's going to time out Aug 21 00:34:04 LOL Aug 21 00:34:05 I'm using mine now Aug 21 00:34:08 screw this Aug 21 00:34:50 is there a wirc for touchpad? Aug 21 00:34:54 ya Aug 21 00:35:02 yep Aug 21 00:35:07 it works like butter Aug 21 00:35:15 mojo-wirc works at tp Aug 21 00:35:24 * xust- hates HP and is too impatient to keep this up. Aug 21 00:35:29 we haven't released enyo-wirc to testing yet Aug 21 00:35:42 lol dont break it :p Aug 21 00:35:46 wirc for Pre 2 here Aug 21 00:35:49 better hurry up oil Aug 21 00:35:58 or u know who'll they'll blame Aug 21 00:36:17 oil: I realized I pronouce wIRC "why"RC Aug 21 00:36:23 "they" can stfu Aug 21 00:36:33 not "w" "i" "R" "C" Aug 21 00:36:55 and.... server too busy Aug 21 00:36:56 you could pronounce it "work" Aug 21 00:37:00 WHYRC Aug 21 00:37:04 thats how its supposed to be Aug 21 00:37:06 does the touchpad have a fleshed out terminal app? i seem to remember back when i had my pre- the terminal app tended to break often Aug 21 00:37:13 double you eye are sea Aug 21 00:37:16 is how i see it Aug 21 00:37:35 dubblllee yoooooo aye arrrrr seeeeeeee Aug 21 00:37:37 wouldn't it show up in a little box ? Aug 21 00:37:38 or Aug 21 00:37:40 work Aug 21 00:37:46 i used to call mIRC merk Aug 21 00:37:49 so werk would work Aug 21 00:38:14 emmm ayee arrrr seee Aug 21 00:39:10 man this video is hilarious Aug 21 00:39:13 but i cannot post it here Aug 21 00:39:15 ARRRRR Aug 21 00:39:20 terminus sampson Aug 21 00:39:20 NSFW x 10 Aug 21 00:39:29 this be talk like a pirate day already? Aug 21 00:39:33 thought it was in sept Aug 21 00:39:38 argggg matteeeyy Aug 21 00:40:31 Would someone please direct me to the Ubuntu on Touchpad group? Aug 21 00:40:48 ---=>>> that way.. Aug 21 00:40:53 lol Aug 21 00:41:02 Okay, I figured as much. Aug 21 00:41:51 Do we know the state of the bootloader? Aug 21 00:42:02 man this is good, i want to share it but hell i cant even put it on facebook Aug 21 00:42:06 pumpkin state i think.. Aug 21 00:42:14 got away from me booty Aug 21 00:42:14 dawm|laptop: PM Aug 21 00:42:49 anyone has any tips to make the touchpad less laggy Aug 21 00:43:11 overclock? Aug 21 00:43:11 yeah stop what your doing Aug 21 00:43:14 overclock Aug 21 00:43:21 ##logs# ? Aug 21 00:43:27 dont buy a cheap touchpad and expect it to be more then it is lol Aug 21 00:43:40 http://twitter.com/#!/BrynaAtHP/status/105076579968892928 Aug 21 00:44:00 i'm loading iOS on mine right now.. Aug 21 00:44:11 got the drivers from oil Aug 21 00:44:13 how do i do that logs thing Aug 21 00:44:18 I don't see a phone dialer Aug 21 00:44:35 * oil walks away from #webos for a few more days Aug 21 00:44:38 I'm not sure just heard about it ... someone chime in Aug 21 00:44:47 lol Aug 21 00:44:57 phone app has the dialer Aug 21 00:45:04 lol Aug 21 00:45:20 for tp? Aug 21 00:45:29 launched phone app and it asks if i want to peer with hp phone Aug 21 00:45:32 yea? tp can all Aug 21 00:45:33 don't see a dialer Aug 21 00:45:42 skip that scene Aug 21 00:45:42 set up a skype account Aug 21 00:45:46 or skip Aug 21 00:46:03 hey sugardave Aug 21 00:46:04 there is no skip Aug 21 00:46:10 could always use the logging mininal patch Aug 21 00:46:15 how did the big one three go? Aug 21 00:46:40 Bmyers: pretty good! we went for some sushi dinner, had presents, cake and ice cream Aug 21 00:46:50 jealous... Aug 21 00:47:02 nice. glad to hear it went well Aug 21 00:47:21 we were going to go to the movies today, but I had to fix the shower instead Aug 21 00:47:32 did u get your shotgun to stash behind the front door? Aug 21 00:47:50 and I'm kicking myself for not going to Best Buy last night to make a deal for the 2 "broken" TouchPads I saw on display there last weekend Aug 21 00:47:55 engadget says some BB stores are starting to sell the TP again Aug 21 00:47:59 family magazine recommends you do it early at 13 and not wait till 14 Aug 21 00:48:02 Bmyers: had it for some time now :D Aug 21 00:48:19 dawm|laptop: quanto ? Aug 21 00:48:29 no clue Aug 21 00:48:39 article (updated) says 'select BB locations' Aug 21 00:48:46 so thats not much info heh Aug 21 00:48:47 my daughter is 6. not looking forward to the "this is my boyfriend" conversation. Aug 21 00:48:53 there are some rumors about BB selling TPs Aug 21 00:48:55 but radioshack apparently had a memo out to honor the new pricing Aug 21 00:49:07 what? Aug 21 00:49:15 my radioshack doesnt even sell the TP Aug 21 00:49:17 radioshack told me 499 Aug 21 00:49:20 radio shack? Aug 21 00:49:20 or any tablet Aug 21 00:49:56 i found one local but they wanted 500 Aug 21 00:50:07 http://www.engadget.com/2011/08/20/hp-touchpad-fire-sale-spurs-online-sell-out-brick-and-mortars-m/ Aug 21 00:50:11 no wonder it died...radio shack is where things go to die. IBM killed the Aptiva (and eventually their whole consumer line) by letting radio shack sell it Aug 21 00:50:16 just passing along what they wrote Aug 21 00:50:40 all i know is my TP is ready to ship monday ;p Aug 21 00:50:59 mine doesn't either Abyssul-Pre Aug 21 00:51:03 wow radioshack is selling the touchpad Aug 21 00:51:22 i think it should be referred to as the 'ouchpad' from here on out Aug 21 00:51:28 no Aug 21 00:51:44 so Aug 21 00:51:51 can we start using the term pre2 instead of the word last? Aug 21 00:52:30 ooooh.. whopper... damn tv commercials Aug 21 00:52:32 check this out Aug 21 00:52:33 http://www.ebay.com/sch/iPads-Tablets-eReaders-/171485/i.html?Brand=HP&_trkparms=65%253A15%257C66%253A3%257C39%253A1&rt=nc&_dmpt=US_Tablets&_sc=1&_sticky=1&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14&_sop=1&_sc=1 Aug 21 00:52:48 those ending in 1 hour time, all goes beyond 200 Aug 21 00:52:57 retarded Aug 21 00:53:02 with quite alot of bids too Aug 21 00:53:12 wish i had funds to buy more than one just to flip Aug 21 00:53:58 wow Aug 21 00:54:29 who will license webos Aug 21 00:54:31 dicks Aug 21 00:54:31 people are bidding more than double...lets pray for market mechanism to work and lower the price :) Aug 21 00:54:40 i was at radioshack and they had 1 left Aug 21 00:54:46 but still the 499 price Aug 21 00:54:50 now its gone Aug 21 00:55:06 people still want webos Aug 21 00:55:10 i bet atleast half of those auctions Aug 21 00:55:19 the bidders are only bidding because they heard its selling out everywhere Aug 21 00:55:25 so its a must have Aug 21 00:56:34 i bought it for 130 at OD Aug 21 00:56:54 I'm calling monday to ask OD for my price check refund. Aug 21 00:57:01 well, at the end of the day, we have hundred of thousands of webos device going out....dev gonna get their share of the profit soon Aug 21 00:57:23 i think HP's move actually makes a lot of sense Aug 21 00:57:32 if they can license webos to HTC why not do it Aug 21 00:57:52 be realistic Aug 21 00:57:55 none of this makes sense, its stupidity and suicidal as a brand and operating system Aug 21 00:58:09 yeah Aug 21 00:58:14 brian2898: that makes me, you, and this other guy i saw today that all think the same Aug 21 00:58:30 there's only a few of us that agree Aug 21 00:58:46 i mean of course they have the working capital to take the hit from touchpad losses like this, but what about pre 3 and the reputation of webOS Aug 21 00:58:46 including techjunky ; ) Aug 21 00:58:48 we get market share at the expense of being labeled a dead OS and forsaking the OS's future Aug 21 00:59:11 webos isn't dead Aug 21 00:59:12 could be worse, it could be just the latter Aug 21 00:59:19 nope, it's not dead Aug 21 00:59:25 i must say the facebook app is decent Aug 21 00:59:26 webos I think makes more sense for tablet than phone Aug 21 00:59:27 hp calls it dead and all of these tablets sit in warehouses because they didnt want to liquidate them Aug 21 00:59:32 i dunno, htc's battery sucks :( and batt life is huge to me Aug 21 00:59:47 HTC's flyer is a POS Aug 21 00:59:47 i doubt HP made that many to begin with Aug 21 00:59:54 CYeong_: maybe the next battery won't suck Aug 21 01:00:08 just because one battery sucked doesn't mean all of them will Aug 21 01:00:15 lol Aug 21 01:00:24 hopefully lol Aug 21 01:00:24 my evo 3d battery will last until the next day Aug 21 01:00:38 in airplane mode Aug 21 01:00:45 yeah that is android Aug 21 01:01:07 nope Aug 21 01:01:23 i use the phone a lot. battery life is amazing Aug 21 01:01:31 on the 3d? Aug 21 01:01:36 yep Aug 21 01:01:41 bloody hell, the notify me page never works Aug 21 01:01:43 on my non 3d evo i wouldnt call it amazing Aug 21 01:02:40 cyeong_, thats broken already Aug 21 01:02:47 :( Aug 21 01:05:07 * CYeong_ want a TP Aug 21 01:06:34 http://www.ebay.com/itm/HP-TouchPad-16GB-Wi-Fi-9-7in-Black-/280726968088?afepn=5335869999&campid=5335869999&PID=1225267&pt=US_Tablets&hash=item415ca19718 Aug 21 01:07:02 wtf Aug 21 01:07:12 he probably used a seperate account to do that Aug 21 01:07:12 Lol Aug 21 01:07:25 OuchPad for that much Aug 21 01:07:44 must be the leather case Aug 21 01:09:58 must be bogus account...i have a feeling alot of bidders are not gonna pay up Aug 21 01:10:38 it ended w/ a buy it now.. lol Aug 21 01:12:43 Ironic, how webOS shares the same fate as BeOS. Aug 21 01:13:08 BeOs isn't dead Aug 21 01:13:13 * jrabbit kicks open his haiku vm Aug 21 01:15:46 Look at the similarities: Got bought by another company and didn't go anywhere. Only that in BeOS's case Palm was the buyer. Aug 21 01:16:05 heh Aug 21 01:16:45 And I bet in 10 years there'll be a small hardcore webOS community who'll still call it ahead of its time. Aug 21 01:16:52 same as BeOS Aug 21 01:17:27 best buy selling touchpds Aug 21 01:17:34 http://forums.bestbuy.com/t5/Points-Policies-Reward/HP-TouchPad-FAQs/m-p/315434/thread-id/3887 Aug 21 01:18:02 grab one for me would you :) Aug 21 01:18:09 they don't seem to be on the website Aug 21 01:18:57 HP should just opensource webOS and sell unlocked devices since they're a hardware manufacturer. But what do I know. Aug 21 01:19:00 aww :( Aug 21 01:19:05 too bad amazon dont have it Aug 21 01:19:35 they had it earlier Aug 21 01:19:40 like a 1 hour window Aug 21 01:20:20 but does people really know what they're buying? Aug 21 01:20:41 appears that many hoped to load android on it Aug 21 01:21:13 tbh amazon was the best, 16gb was available, and yea, they pretty much are going to honor the discount Aug 21 01:21:20 Mellowcow: they are unlocked Aug 21 01:21:21 kind of disappointed i didnt jump in on it :/ Aug 21 01:22:14 http://shopping1.hp.com/is-bin/INTERSHOP.enfinity/WFS/WW-USSMBPublicStore-Site/en_US/-/USD/ViewStandardCatalog-Browse?CategoryName=HP_TouchPad&CategoryDomainName=WW-USSMBPublicStore-Tablets&hiderightpanel=true&jumpid=re_r295_shop_atlas_nbgw_touchpad_gen_off_1&psn=notebooks_tablet_pcs/notebook_pcs Aug 21 01:23:44 lol i hit that link and put a TP in my cart and hit checkout and i get "Microsoft VBScript compilation error '800a03e9'" out of memory ... Aug 21 01:23:45 lovely. Aug 21 01:23:50 disappear when you view cart =.=...bloody... Aug 21 01:24:48 heh Aug 21 01:24:55 smallbiz does not have any in stock Aug 21 01:25:10 if you would listen to twitter (which we've reposted in here numerous times) Aug 21 01:25:15 website is glitching, no stock Aug 21 01:25:29 ya seriously Aug 21 01:25:51 ah well.. Aug 21 01:25:54 this stuff is like hours old... Aug 21 01:26:42 never hurts to try :P but oh well Aug 21 01:28:12 ok now getting HTTP/1.1 500 Server Error Aug 21 01:30:04 bartholemew: no point even if you get through, it's out of stock Aug 21 01:33:48 pretty much goto bestbuy right now if you want 1 Aug 21 01:34:05 i'm sure everyone saw this article: http://www.afterdawn.com/news/article.cfm/2011/08/20/hp_has_sold_350_000_touchpads_this_weekend Aug 21 01:34:40 Will developers be offered any devices? :) Aug 21 01:35:15 fxspec06: that article has no real facts Aug 21 01:35:17 lol @ this in slick deals Aug 21 01:35:18 Ye s- this is great. I bought mine at Walmart - who will not give me a refund. I'm screwed and will not buy electronics there again. EVER! Aug 21 01:35:21 bestbuy is now selling them again Aug 21 01:35:26 and never sent them back to hp Aug 21 01:36:09 my local bb is sold out - just called Aug 21 01:37:26 https://twitter.com/webosdev/status/105090280528683008 Aug 21 01:37:40 rather Aug 21 01:37:41 https://twitter.com/bestbuy/status/105082914806562816 Aug 21 01:37:45 some websites don't work with the touchpad Aug 21 01:38:01 like the windows live website. I cannot get to windows live account Aug 21 01:38:02 youre going on ignore Aug 21 01:38:58 it costs less to just sell them than to ship them back and get reimbursed. plus BB will get more sales from customers buying more than just the TP when they visit Aug 21 01:39:19 I returned mine to BB this afternoon Aug 21 01:39:32 bestbuy usa is selling them? Aug 21 01:39:34 they had taken down all their TP display models Aug 21 01:39:34 you should have just waited, they will give you refund now Aug 21 01:39:41 fxspec06: argh Aug 21 01:39:51 besbuy removed it from their website Aug 21 01:39:54 refund / price match Aug 21 01:40:15 no returns Aug 21 01:40:41 WTF BB, you change your mind as much as HP Aug 21 01:41:13 theyre selling therm right now Aug 21 01:41:50 I bet employees are buying them all to flip on ebay Aug 21 01:41:51 damn best buy is closed Aug 21 01:42:03 it's open til 10pm here Aug 21 01:43:07 http://www.bestbuy.com/site/HP+-+TouchPad+Tablet+with+16GB+Memory+-+Black/2842056.p?skuId=2842056&productCategoryId=pcmcat209000050008&id=1218358284065 Aug 21 01:43:13 heres link btw, check stores from there Aug 21 01:44:11 says 400.00 Aug 21 01:44:42 plov, got a link for the 32GB ? Aug 21 01:44:50 plov: thanks -- looks like I can "add to cart"... maybe they'll hold it for me?? Aug 21 01:44:53 http://slickdeals.net/?sdtid=3220862&sdfpid=57140&sdfid=9&u2=http://www.bestbuy.com/site/HP+-+TouchPad+Tablet+with+32GB+Memory+-+Black/2842092.p?skuId=2842092&id=1218358272750 Aug 21 01:45:10 err, better link -> http://www.bestbuy.com/site/HP+-+TouchPad+Tablet+with+32GB+Memory+-+Black/2842092.p?skuId=2842092&id=1218358272750 Aug 21 01:45:14 Holy shit Aug 21 01:45:18 just use it to check stores availbility Aug 21 01:45:21 and then call or go in Aug 21 01:45:24 Tons of downloads today on my app Aug 21 01:45:28 The screen shots show a camera app Aug 21 01:45:29 HUGE spike Aug 21 01:45:40 twbbas: yaaya :) Aug 21 01:45:41 but how much are they selling them for in stores Aug 21 01:45:42 plov, thanks Aug 21 01:45:44 http://forums.bestbuy.com/t5/Points-Policies-Reward/HP-TouchPad-FAQs/m-p/315434/thread-id/3887 Aug 21 01:45:45 nomnomnom probably did well too Aug 21 01:45:50 twbbas: how do you know? Aug 21 01:45:57 look at the SKU, it is official the price is going to be honored Aug 21 01:45:57 * twbbas can't wait until middle of next week when everyone gets theirs delivered Aug 21 01:46:02 Tibfib: dev center Aug 21 01:46:02 oh, I think free apps get downloads updated live Aug 21 01:46:06 paid apps are daily Aug 21 01:46:09 yeah Aug 21 01:46:14 and paid are usually 3-5 days lag Aug 21 01:46:23 I don't think so Aug 21 01:46:24 free apps are like updated hourly Aug 21 01:46:28 that would ridiculous if true Aug 21 01:46:30 Tibfib: How is NomNomNom doing sales wise? Aug 21 01:46:38 Tibfib: They have to wait for credit card to process Aug 21 01:46:39 better than koto player. Aug 21 01:46:47 twbbas: well dang, nomnomnom is doing pretty well Aug 21 01:47:03 kesne: 2/3 of my total sales of koto Aug 21 01:47:10 in ~4 days Aug 21 01:47:27 more like 3/5, gotta ber fair. Aug 21 01:47:29 Tibfib: Damn. What does that work out to numbers-wise Aug 21 01:47:36 kesne: You probably made the best business move out of any dev with putting out that cam app Aug 21 01:47:50 Haha, well, DigiKat copied me :P Aug 21 01:48:00 really? Aug 21 01:48:02 I haven't see ntaht Aug 21 01:48:19 DigiCamera lol Aug 21 01:51:27 They copied it Aug 21 01:51:33 Camera for TouchPad is better though. Aug 21 01:51:45 We use some error handling that they don't. Aug 21 01:51:50 BOOM ROASTED Aug 21 01:52:05 And our app has more features than their pro app Aug 21 01:52:10 Which is like 2.99 Aug 21 01:52:11 BOOM ROASTED Aug 21 01:52:21 Tibfib: <3 Aug 21 01:53:16 did anyone get a screen protector? Aug 21 01:53:40 Screen protectors are for babies Aug 21 01:53:46 is it even necessary? Aug 21 01:53:50 they help Aug 21 01:53:55 but I don't like the feel of them Aug 21 01:54:10 I don't like scratched screens Aug 21 01:54:18 so pick your poison Aug 21 01:55:27 Tibfib wears latex gloves when using his tablets so they get stuck when trying to slide on a screen protector Aug 21 01:55:45 guilty Aug 21 01:55:59 I wonder if the glass is gorilla Aug 21 01:56:06 germophobe? Aug 21 01:56:25 oil: I keep telling him the "bugs" are in the software... not actual bugs Aug 21 01:56:53 oil: anatidaephobic Aug 21 01:57:00 what is the raw cost of a touchpad for HP? Aug 21 01:57:07 * Tibfib bets everyone just googled that Aug 21 01:57:25 onr: I remember reading $280 for 16 and $296 or so for 32 Aug 21 01:57:28 a while back Aug 21 01:57:32 O.O Aug 21 01:57:39 320 ish I think Aug 21 01:57:40 318 Aug 21 01:57:46 duckLookingAtTib: :O :O Aug 21 01:57:53 fxspec06: I wonder if they would have honored the price since I bought mine on Aug 19 Aug 21 01:57:58 Tibfib: who you talking to? Aug 21 01:58:06 fxspec06: and their announcement says "bought after Aug 19" Aug 21 01:58:14 NO ONE I'M NOT CRAZY Aug 21 01:58:22 I believe so Aug 21 01:58:25 fxspec06: but I found one to pick up nearby, placed the order via bb.com Aug 21 01:59:17 so 200M$ loss for 1 million touchpads Aug 21 01:59:21 pakl: they should, if not dont buy it Aug 21 01:59:37 you think they made 1 million Aug 21 01:59:44 plov: thanks for the link, btw, that was really helpful Aug 21 02:00:12 pakl: it's not 100% i placed an order for the closes store by me that's available... Aug 21 02:00:19 Deihmos: how many they made? Aug 21 02:00:28 said 'checking inventory at store' after it accepted my order, just updated and said that store is out of stock.. Aug 21 02:00:30 I have no idea but I doubt they made that many Aug 21 02:00:44 plov: Well that announcement link you posted says that the offer is valid via stores "and BestBuy.com" Aug 21 02:00:49 plov: so I'm hopeful Aug 21 02:01:00 oh yea, i meant just even if you place an order and it goes through not 100% the store has it Aug 21 02:01:01 Wow... There are a lot of people in this channel. Aug 21 02:01:21 because it's now telling my order i placed to the store actually doesn't have it Aug 21 02:01:42 this is nuts Aug 21 02:02:01 plov: weird... I'm going to see if it still says "stock available" on my store now... Aug 21 02:02:17 soon people are going to be like, "oh hey did you get that touchpad?" "no" "HA! LOSER! I got mine for $99....." Aug 21 02:02:35 pakl: check order status if you placed an order Aug 21 02:02:40 how many iPads Apple sold? say 20M? Aug 21 02:02:48 dkirker! Aug 21 02:03:07 ok got 7 tp 16gb who wants to buy one? Aug 21 02:03:19 7 of them?! Aug 21 02:03:20 lmao Aug 21 02:03:26 touch-2-share orgy Aug 21 02:03:30 ofmg Aug 21 02:03:31 an office depot customer rep placed an order for a 16GB for me at 9:15am this morning.... i was given an est. delivery date of 8-24... i wonder what the chances are that i will later be told that they are out of stock, and have to cancel my order... Aug 21 02:04:05 jmichaelx: well they say they have more stock... so you might be one of those who's first in line to get the re-stock? Aug 21 02:04:15 you tap your touchpad on your touchpad on your touchpad on your touchpad on your touchpad on your touchpad on your touchpad, and the url from the first touchpad opens on each of the other 6 successive touchpads Aug 21 02:04:18 hmm, maybe Aug 21 02:04:21 hey all Aug 21 02:04:33 plov: I see what you mean -- "confirming store inventory".... so not 100% yet Aug 21 02:04:37 fxspec06: what? lol Aug 21 02:04:57 pakl: yea, my changed to not available from that after 20mins~ Aug 21 02:05:09 that guy that just left came in and said he has 7 16gb touchpads Aug 21 02:05:24 which is believable Aug 21 02:05:30 anyone else having trouble with updating apps? Aug 21 02:05:33 like launcg Aug 21 02:05:51 lol, 7 Aug 21 02:05:54 launching the software mgr to update* Aug 21 02:05:54 with 1 Billion $ of marketing cost, HP can sell 5 millions of touchpads Aug 21 02:05:57 when did the best buy thing happen? Aug 21 02:06:09 oil: we (my fam) ordered 4 Aug 21 02:06:16 an hour ago Aug 21 02:06:19 bmyers Aug 21 02:06:28 so 12 bill market cap loss could havebeen better spent? Aug 21 02:06:35 PatrickC_TP: lol Aug 21 02:06:40 i'm trying to think of ways to use 7 touchpads w/ maximum productivity Aug 21 02:06:44 dawm|laptop: best buy thing? Aug 21 02:06:50 crap. Aug 21 02:06:54 fxspec06: nomnomnom on each one Aug 21 02:06:57 Tibfib: one for each member of the family Aug 21 02:06:58 prolly sold out here already then Aug 21 02:06:58 https://twitter.com/bestbuy/status/105082914806562816 Aug 21 02:07:33 dawm|laptop: ah Aug 21 02:07:33 rwatkins-tp: yeah. but Leo Apotheker is.. kinda.. Aug 21 02:07:56 kinda generous, don't you think? Aug 21 02:08:03 paying for all these touchpads Aug 21 02:08:13 so that we can use them and benefit from them? Aug 21 02:08:42 rwatkins-tp: -tp? that mojo or enyo wirc? Aug 21 02:09:04 mojo Aug 21 02:09:09 oil: I'll be downloading Enyo wirc soon Aug 21 02:09:14 Enyo in feeds? Aug 21 02:09:17 not yet Aug 21 02:09:33 almost? Aug 21 02:09:41 maybe? lol Aug 21 02:09:49 cool :-) Aug 21 02:10:11 probably do an early testing feed release once i get pms working Aug 21 02:10:15 Enyo wirc looks amazing Aug 21 02:10:22 cool! Aug 21 02:10:26 can't wait Aug 21 02:10:28 fxspec06 Leo's probably going to get fired Aug 21 02:10:39 * PatrickC_TP goes to git clone the Enyo wirc Aug 21 02:11:32 yeah, whats in git can just be packaged/installed Aug 21 02:11:52 same app id? Aug 21 02:11:56 no Aug 21 02:12:16 once its closer to release we'll probably fat-pack the two Aug 21 02:12:37 cool Aug 21 02:12:57 oil: oh, it can? Aug 21 02:13:03 yeah Aug 21 02:13:07 I thought it'd require a compiler? Aug 21 02:13:12 is plugin included? Aug 21 02:13:15 puffy keeps an updated bin in there to make it easier for me Aug 21 02:13:19 nice Aug 21 02:13:20 good man Aug 21 02:13:20 so i can just package/install Aug 21 02:13:43 when you get your pad on monday you'll need to check it out Aug 21 02:13:55 YESSIR! Aug 21 02:14:13 then I can crush your ego with my bold feedbck Aug 21 02:14:13 with the awesome color-picker and keycommand entry controls :) Aug 21 02:14:19 s/feedbck/feedback Aug 21 02:14:27 lol Aug 21 02:14:44 "That was a little strange, but it worked in the end. Now that, that just was terrible. What are you, 4?" Aug 21 02:14:55 lol Aug 21 02:15:02 well, most of the commands dont work Aug 21 02:15:05 you can join Aug 21 02:15:07 thas about it Aug 21 02:15:08 heh Aug 21 02:15:19 can you slap? Aug 21 02:15:19 maybe /nick works, i dont remember Aug 21 02:15:44 which is what, just aliased to /me slaps {name} with a large trout? Aug 21 02:15:50 damn. $12B loss == 60 millions of touchpads for $99 Aug 21 02:15:50 * Tibfib knows what he will contribute to enyo wirc Aug 21 02:16:16 a slap function Aug 21 02:16:20 with LOTS of variables and stuff Aug 21 02:16:24 lol Aug 21 02:16:26 randomizes the stuff Aug 21 02:16:28 golden Aug 21 02:16:38 I expect 76% of the sales Aug 21 02:16:49 * fxspec06 slaps Tibfib Aug 21 02:16:57 but with WHAT? Aug 21 02:16:59 well 76% of $0 is pretty easy math to do Aug 21 02:17:00 uncreative Aug 21 02:17:11 carry the six... Aug 21 02:17:14 comes out to $0 Aug 21 02:17:14 oil, I expect it, nonetheless Aug 21 02:17:43 anyone run an Enyo app on a pre3 yet? Aug 21 02:17:48 good idea Aug 21 02:17:55 I wonder how the noms behaves Aug 21 02:18:02 speaking of which, i gotta get me a pre3 Aug 21 02:18:43 emulator runs like crap, so curious about a device ... Aug 21 02:19:45 massive flicker on sliding panes Aug 21 02:22:52 so, anyone wanna sell me a 16 GB touchpad? Aug 21 02:23:26 IGNTNUNLMTD: Best Buy might... :) Aug 21 02:23:38 Yep Aug 21 02:23:44 no they don't Aug 21 02:23:45 Best Buy is suppsedly selling them now Aug 21 02:23:51 as of like 45 mins go Aug 21 02:23:51 WHAT? Aug 21 02:23:52 ago Aug 21 02:23:54 yeah Aug 21 02:23:56 link? Aug 21 02:23:58 they changed their mind about sending back to HP Aug 21 02:24:00 IGNTNUNLMTD: http://forums.bestbuy.com/t5/Points-Policies-Reward/HP-TouchPad-FAQs/m-p/315434/thread-id/3887 Aug 21 02:24:04 yeah, that link Aug 21 02:24:10 and all the best buy twitter pages Aug 21 02:24:12 https://twitter.com/bestbuy/status/105082914806562816 Aug 21 02:24:13 If my order from HP SMB doesnt actually go through, I'm just gonna quit until monday Aug 21 02:24:23 no way Aug 21 02:24:41 IGNTNUNLMTD: I returned the one I bought yesterday to best buy today before they did this. Aug 21 02:24:49 * pakl had it in his hands!!! Aug 21 02:24:55 oh man Aug 21 02:24:55 I returned 2 touchpads yesterday to Staples Aug 21 02:25:15 I want those 2 back :( Aug 21 02:25:30 I have 3 on order though. 2 from Sam's club and 1 from hp.com Aug 21 02:25:38 man, i was in best buy today and they said they werent allowed to sell them, which prompted 4 hours of refreshing the hp small business website Aug 21 02:25:46 lol Aug 21 02:27:13 that deihmos guy Aug 21 02:27:19 such a bad aple Aug 21 02:27:22 nothing but hate Aug 21 02:27:50 honestly there's a bunch of places selling it at full price, who -might- discount you after purchase, but if not you can return it Aug 21 02:27:59 looks like today may be biggest download day for Paper Mache. more than even precentral app review day. Aug 21 02:28:16 rwatkins-tp: wait until mid-week next week Aug 21 02:28:17 did you have any luck refreshing square? I gave up after like an hour lol Aug 21 02:28:22 that's when everyone gets theirs delivered Aug 21 02:28:44 yeah Jordan8, it took a while and a lot of patience Aug 21 02:28:47 rwatkins: :) Aug 21 02:29:04 sooo I've got a silly css issue Aug 21 02:29:05 square: you ordered it at the full price? Aug 21 02:29:10 twbbas: will be Rollin' in the $! Aug 21 02:29:12 from hp small business? Aug 21 02:29:12 nope, $99 each Aug 21 02:29:19 they charged me shipping though Aug 21 02:29:19 well hell Aug 21 02:29:24 yeah Aug 21 02:29:24 * Jordan8 goes back to refreshing Aug 21 02:29:25 rwatkins-tp: :) Aug 21 02:29:36 I got more downloads of my app today than when I updated it mid-july Aug 21 02:29:39 Jordan8: using Opera seemed to help Aug 21 02:29:40 gnite Aug 21 02:29:40 (it's free) Aug 21 02:29:47 someone email me if something else blows up Aug 21 02:29:48 :P Aug 21 02:29:56 twbbas: ha! Aug 21 02:29:59 dawm|laptop: TouchPad 2 is in the fire sale too Aug 21 02:30:10 you have to go to this link.... Aug 21 02:30:15 did you get that? Aug 21 02:30:16 :p Aug 21 02:30:17 I want my scroller background to scroll with the scroller, which it does. BUT, it does not extend past the visible area Aug 21 02:30:40 anyone know what difference is between FB355UA and FB355UT ? Aug 21 02:30:54 basically the A and the T at the end Aug 21 02:31:05 both 16gb and 32gb show up with 2 difference SKUs? Aug 21 02:31:18 I really wish I hadnt ordered online now. I wish I could cancel my order so I could run to best buy and have one now, as opposed to the 25th Aug 21 02:31:33 so just go? Aug 21 02:31:36 and cancel Aug 21 02:31:39 http://pastebin.com/dXYBHEfU Aug 21 02:31:43 annnnyyyone? Aug 21 02:32:25 i have like 1500$ worth of pending orders on my cc lol Aug 21 02:32:57 im trying to find a place on the hp website where i can Aug 21 02:33:05 plov: Are you still waiting while they "Confirm Store inventory"? I still am. Aug 21 02:33:19 plov: It's been 30+ minutes here... Aug 21 02:33:20 pakl: no it updated to saying it's not available Aug 21 02:33:35 pakl: stores probably closed Aug 21 02:33:38 I bet webos-internals is getting a lot of traffic with all of the android hackers that bought TPs Aug 21 02:33:42 so it probably won't update? i dont know Aug 21 02:34:11 plov: yeah maybe not... hrm... did "not available" make you order cancel? Aug 21 02:34:19 so they are actualky selling them in stores tomorrow? Aug 21 02:34:41 pakl: nope, but i hvae the option to right now Aug 21 02:34:57 but i'm calling in to see if i can use it as leverage to get something going Aug 21 02:35:01 plov: are you going to look for another nearby BB? Aug 21 02:35:14 I hate those Android hackers... that community is dishonorable Aug 21 02:35:23 hey all Aug 21 02:35:25 evil, even Aug 21 02:35:34 theyre all sold out for me, but supposedly bestbuy.com will go 'live' tomorrow and orders will be available on the site? if they have any in stock Aug 21 02:35:34 EVIL I SAY EVIL! Aug 21 02:35:45 oil: on enyo wirc :) Aug 21 02:35:51 indeed Aug 21 02:35:51 ,,,,, Aug 21 02:35:54 anyone help my nooby css issue? Aug 21 02:35:58 http://pastebin.com/dXYBHEfU Aug 21 02:36:20 Tiffin, I would but I'm on my TP Aug 21 02:36:32 haha Aug 21 02:36:33 stupid auto-correct Aug 21 02:36:34 that autocorrect Aug 21 02:36:39 ok we shall see... peace, all. Aug 21 02:36:40 * Tibfib has twitter column for @tiffin Aug 21 02:36:45 I was like haha someone's on their TP and then I read the rest of that sentence Aug 21 02:36:51 hmm.. can't click on links., and autocorrect doesn't work :-) Aug 21 02:37:00 PatrickC_TP: restart? Aug 21 02:37:04 Tibfib: what doesn't work there? Aug 21 02:37:11 Tibfib: don't understand .. doesn't cover full scrolled visible area? Aug 21 02:37:13 plov: thanks again, and good luck! Aug 21 02:37:21 twbbas: why? Aug 21 02:37:29 its a wirc alpha issue :-) Aug 21 02:37:32 oh Aug 21 02:37:35 rwatkins: so it works great for the viewable area Aug 21 02:37:37 I thought you said your TP Aug 21 02:37:37 once you scroll Aug 21 02:37:42 err meant your TP Aug 21 02:37:45 not just an app Aug 21 02:37:46 the background doesn't exist outside the view Aug 21 02:37:48 lol Aug 21 02:38:10 man.. wirc enyo is amazing :) Aug 21 02:38:30 PatrickC_TP: Is it worth dl'ing right now? Aug 21 02:38:35 oil: good job Aug 21 02:38:40 twbbas: imo, yeah Aug 21 02:38:58 there are some things that don't work, but I like it Aug 21 02:39:03 bg doesn't repeat? Aug 21 02:39:17 it repeats through the whole view Aug 21 02:39:18 isn't there an example for such a thing in the sdk? Aug 21 02:39:25 but once you scroll, teh background doesn't exist outside hte view Aug 21 02:39:42 * rwatkins-tp needs to move to BMP if he's gonna type goddam autocorrect. Aug 21 02:40:26 rwatkins: in wirc-mojo you can disable autocorrect? Aug 21 02:40:31 Tibfib: Nomnomnom is so awesome looking :D Aug 21 02:40:39 (you have to close and rejoin the channel for it to take effect) Aug 21 02:40:40 PatrickC_TP: did you actually buy it? Aug 21 02:40:43 lol Aug 21 02:41:01 Tibfib: to try it, installed the beta Aug 21 02:41:18 Tibfib... set background of body? Aug 21 02:41:19 I was going to take back anything mean I ever said to you Aug 21 02:41:20 I don't use greader enough to buy it though, sorry Aug 21 02:41:21 but I won't. Aug 21 02:41:40 if I used greader, I woild buy it Aug 21 02:41:41 http://img822.imageshack.us/img822/8830/upload820201193835pm.png Aug 21 02:41:46 would* Aug 21 02:41:46 also I added your name to autocorrect Aug 21 02:41:52 IGNTNUNLMTD: good man Aug 21 02:41:58 rwatkins, IGNTNUNLMTD: screenshot Aug 21 02:42:03 I did that forever ago Aug 21 02:42:06 sounds like PatrickC_TP is enjoying his TP ;) Aug 21 02:42:11 lol Aug 21 02:42:13 WTF is this? :x Aug 21 02:42:14 palm-install: novacom error: err -99 "Command: run file:///bin/mkdir -p /media/internal/.developer Reply:req:auth" Aug 21 02:42:29 http://forums.bestbuy.com/t5/Points-Policies-Reward/HP-TouchPad-FAQs/m-p/315434/thread-id/3887 Aug 21 02:42:35 PatrickC_TP: What app are you using to IRC on? Aug 21 02:42:42 akanster: yep :-) Aug 21 02:43:07 Shadymam: Wirc Enyo Aug 21 02:43:13 there - i can actually type now. all errors now really my fault. Aug 21 02:43:29 haha Aug 21 02:43:32 lol Aug 21 02:43:33 PatrickC_TP: in the app store? Aug 21 02:43:52 nope, homebrew Aug 21 02:43:53 s/store/catalog Aug 21 02:43:57 Tibfib: look in support\examples\Theming Aug 21 02:44:01 Shadyman: not even inreware yet Aug 21 02:44:05 oil: why? Aug 21 02:44:06 lol Aug 21 02:44:07 o Aug 21 02:44:12 in preware* Aug 21 02:44:17 im pretty sure one of them does a background in a scroller Aug 21 02:44:21 awesome Aug 21 02:44:22 thanks Aug 21 02:44:52 os bestbuy will be selling TPs again tomorrow? Aug 21 02:44:54 so* Aug 21 02:44:55 shadyman: you have to get it from git, and it really isn't ment for a wide group yet :-) Aug 21 02:44:58 whats this business about enyo and node.js? Aug 21 02:45:03 Tibfib: still not fully sure I understand the issue here but the bg needs to be on the grid, not the scroller itself? Aug 21 02:45:17 rwatkins: correct Aug 21 02:45:21 I want the background to scroll Aug 21 02:45:26 not just the items Aug 21 02:45:29 PatrickC_TP: o Aug 21 02:45:36 PatrickC_TP: well hurry up then Aug 21 02:45:49 its not my app :-) Aug 21 02:45:57 hehe Aug 21 02:46:07 its oil/PuffTheMagic's app ;-) Aug 21 02:46:08 how about IM? Pidgin for Touchpad? Aug 21 02:46:10 is it the last row, or just once you get like a page down scrolling? Aug 21 02:46:26 just using  the msg'ing app Aug 21 02:46:33 o Aug 21 02:46:36 right. derp Aug 21 02:46:53 Tibfib: i know one of those examples has it, but they're not loading here Aug 21 02:46:56 rwatkins: anything outside the initial view has no background Aug 21 02:47:06 hm Aug 21 02:47:15 I wish we had a third-party msg'ing app Aug 21 02:47:27 this in github? can i pull down and run locally to repro? Aug 21 02:48:20 umm, lemme push Aug 21 02:49:09 bbl Aug 21 02:49:12 rwatkins-mbp: easiest to show in browser Aug 21 02:49:16 just make the window small Aug 21 02:49:20 pushed Aug 21 02:49:53 oil: yeah, I can't seem to find it :/ Aug 21 02:50:44 sorry Aug 21 02:50:59 examples/Layouts* Aug 21 02:51:07 those load, the first one (-0) Aug 21 02:51:18 has a scroller with background moving with it Aug 21 02:51:21 nice Aug 21 02:51:23 thanks Aug 21 02:51:27 np Aug 21 02:51:43 bbiab Aug 21 02:55:31 oil: it looks like it fakes it Aug 21 02:55:45 lol, how so? Aug 21 02:56:02 well lemme test Aug 21 02:56:15 but currently it has padding-bottom: 1400px Aug 21 02:56:41 heh Aug 21 02:56:49 index_chrome ftw Aug 21 02:57:00 yep haha Aug 21 02:57:10 lmao someone retweeted this from last year - http://twitter.com/#!/philmckinney/status/22106265532 Aug 21 02:57:14 multistage completely killed easy browser support Aug 21 02:57:39 where are those apps? Aug 21 02:57:45 they didn't get approved Aug 21 02:57:45 fooking "stay tuned" Aug 21 02:57:46 ya i can never test the app menu now as i run no-window Aug 21 02:57:46 too ugly Aug 21 02:58:51 new HP motto "stay tuned!" ? Aug 21 02:59:08 or "coming soon" ? Aug 21 02:59:17 or "we're working on it" ? Aug 21 02:59:43 Its not even a promise, its an empty promise. Does it get worse than that? **** ENDING LOGGING AT Sun Aug 21 02:59:57 2011