**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Sun Aug 28 02:59:57 2011
Aug 28 03:10:09 <rwhitby> the20yrlaptop: Xecutah
Aug 28 03:13:01 <cwayne> rwhitby: ping
Aug 28 03:13:23 <rwhitby> cwayne: yes
Aug 28 03:13:57 <cwayne> rwhitby: any progress on getting fullscreen xserver with no vkb?
Aug 28 03:14:11 <rwhitby> cwayne: yes, it's in latest packages.
Aug 28 03:16:35 <cwayne> rwhitby: i just updated xecutah and the chroot and didn't get it yet
Aug 28 03:16:53 <rwhitby> cwayne: did you read the splash screen for the update?
Aug 28 03:17:19 <cwayne> rwhitby: for xecutah?  no mention of fullscreen
Aug 28 03:24:04 <rwhitby> cwayne: Tweaks is used to configure it
Aug 28 03:26:29 <Ironsight> wow windows networking is effiecient I am downloading from lan at slower than I download from the net
Aug 28 03:26:42 <cwayne> rwhitby: ack, thanks
Aug 28 03:29:40 * DougReeder waves hello
Aug 28 03:30:30 <balrog> if I can't open a PDF in adobe reader, is the PDF bad or just too big?
Aug 28 03:31:03 <DougReeder> Is there an error message?
Aug 28 03:31:42 <Ironsight> with 1gb of ram... it would take a huge pdf
Aug 28 03:33:32 <balrog> yes, there is
Aug 28 03:33:38 <DougReeder> I've seen lots of ineffecient code in my day...
Aug 28 03:33:52 <balrog> retesting
Aug 28 03:34:23 <DougReeder> What's the error message?
Aug 28 03:34:25 <balrog> that was a fluke
Aug 28 03:34:28 <Ironsight> nobody ever optimizes code in windows these days
Aug 28 03:34:30 <balrog> can't reproduce it
Aug 28 03:34:42 <Ironsight> meh, they got 4-16 gigs of ram, might aswell use it all
Aug 28 03:34:59 <Ironsight> who cares about memory leaks?
Aug 28 03:35:01 <Ironsight> lol
Aug 28 03:35:44 <Ironsight> let's do in a million lines of code what can be done in 100k lines
Aug 28 03:36:08 <Ironsight> let's add a bunch of features no one will ever use
Aug 28 03:36:17 <kesne> Anybody here good at photoshop
Aug 28 03:36:26 <Ironsight> I'm good at the gimp
Aug 28 03:36:27 <Ironsight> :)
Aug 28 03:36:43 <kesne> How good?
Aug 28 03:36:45 <Ironsight> deviantart.com/rabidweezle
Aug 28 03:36:53 <DougReeder> I have a learner's permit for GIMP, but I can't describe the tools I use. :-S
Aug 28 03:37:30 <Ironsight> erm, hold on, bad link
Aug 28 03:38:03 <Ironsight> http://rabidweezle.deviantart.com/
Aug 28 03:39:06 <balrog> lol optimization
Aug 28 03:39:20 <balrog> the objc_msgSend() function on Macs is very highly optimized
Aug 28 03:39:25 <Ironsight> http://rabidweezle.deviantart.com/gallery/ for the full gallery
Aug 28 03:39:25 <balrog> why? it gets called millions of times
Aug 28 03:39:37 <balrog> every time an obj-c message is invoked, even
Aug 28 03:39:39 <kesne> Ironsight: want to make me a quick image?
Aug 28 03:39:45 <Ironsight> kesne, what you ned?
Aug 28 03:39:47 <Ironsight> need*
Aug 28 03:39:47 <balrog> good write up on that: http://www.friday.com/bbum/2009/12/18/objc_msgsend-part-1-the-road-map/
Aug 28 03:39:50 <balrog> (sorry OT)
Aug 28 03:41:46 <balrog> :( preader can't handle >10MB ePubs
Aug 28 03:42:22 <balrog> or is that because I need it from preware?
Aug 28 03:45:04 <kesne> This just in: All Villo Pro Dev accounts get access to any Villo-Enabled app for free
Aug 28 03:48:53 <tolland> i need an arrow pad
Aug 28 03:49:11 <DougReeder> "arrow pad"?
Aug 28 03:49:25 <tolland> up down, left fucking right etc
Aug 28 03:49:32 <tolland> sorry.
Aug 28 05:27:02 <randin> has anyone messed with python in webos?
Aug 28 05:29:33 <plov> how would that work?
Aug 28 05:29:58 <plov> using pdk <
Aug 28 05:30:02 <plov> ?
Aug 28 05:31:23 <randin> i found a binary on some guy's blog
Aug 28 05:31:23 <randin> http://www.ezequielaceto.com.ar/techblog/?cat=53
Aug 28 05:32:30 <plov> he probably just compiled the interpreter with the pdk , but im guessing you'd need to write an api wrapper to expose the webos api to python to actually write anything for webos
Aug 28 05:32:50 <plov> and package the interpreter with your app if you do manage to get it working
Aug 28 05:34:23 <randin> now that I read the docs
Aug 28 05:34:32 <randin> i'll just stick with JS
Aug 28 05:52:12 <HattCzech_tp> anyone know if you can import books (mobi or prc) into the kindle app?
Aug 28 05:52:55 <Ironsight> You should be able to convert with calibre
Aug 28 05:53:28 <HattCzech_tp> why would I need to convert them?
Aug 28 05:54:07 <Ironsight> oops, sorry, yeah, you should be able to just stick them into your kindle folder
Aug 28 05:54:18 <HattCzech_tp> I know the mobi format is supported by real kindle devices
Aug 28 05:54:25 <Ironsight> At least I could on my galaxy tab, using the official kindle app
Aug 28 05:54:30 <HattCzech_tp> yeah, I'm just trying to figure out how to do that on webOS :)
Aug 28 05:55:00 <Ironsight> download a free book if you haven't to see how they setup their directories
Aug 28 05:55:28 <HattCzech_tp> that sound like a good idea
Aug 28 05:55:30 <Ironsight> I'm not entirely sure how they do that on webos :( I'm still waiting for my tablet to arrive
Aug 28 05:55:33 <HattCzech_tp> I'll try that
Aug 28 06:02:13 <kesne> Oh lord
Aug 28 06:13:53 <kesne> BAM
Aug 28 06:13:57 <kesne> no more app return policy
Aug 28 06:19:04 <Hendikins> ..?
Aug 28 06:20:20 <Ironsight> good trade for 99 dollar tablets
Aug 28 06:20:48 <Ironsight> just be careful what apps you buy I guess
Aug 28 06:21:22 <square> so i think im gonna call hp and cancel my order
Aug 28 06:21:34 <square> I
Aug 28 06:22:22 <square> I'm upset that they have my $259, I can't seem to get in touch with them, and they can't give me any idea when I'm getting my products
Aug 28 06:28:09 <kesne> I need a $99 tp
Aug 28 06:32:43 <Snowwhitie> Anybody used the app "typewriter beta" here
Aug 28 06:35:18 * Ironsight waits for this animation to render in blender...
Aug 28 06:35:55 <Freman> think I might have found another bug... when I set layoutKind to "VFlexBox" on a enyo.LabeledContainer it duplicates all the controls contained within... '[20110828-16:29:56.271707] warning: enyo.Component.addComponent():  Duplicate component name "meteredToday" violates unique-name-under-owner rule, replacing existing component in the hash and continuing, but this is an error condition and
Aug 28 06:35:56 <Freman> should be fixed., /usr/palm/frameworks/enyo/0.10/framework/build/enyo-build.js:75'
Aug 28 06:37:55 <Ironsight> man, i7's render fast
Aug 28 06:41:49 <kesne> Ironsight: what are you rendering?
Aug 28 06:51:51 <Ironsight> kesne, 3 cubes fusing into 1 spinning
Aug 28 06:52:07 <kesne> Ironsight: what for?
Aug 28 06:52:12 <Ironsight> for fun
Aug 28 06:52:13 <Ironsight> :)
Aug 28 06:52:40 <kesne> heh, nice
Aug 28 06:52:40 <Ironsight> mostly to test the new animation system of blender 2.5
Aug 28 06:52:52 <Ironsight> it's pretty nice
Aug 28 06:54:03 <kesne> indeed
Aug 28 06:55:07 <Ironsight> I'll post the h.264 on google+
Aug 28 06:56:20 <Ironsight> I've had to relearn blender just to make that hole
Aug 28 06:56:29 <Ironsight> lol
Aug 28 06:56:44 <Ironsight> last time I used blender the UI was waaaay different
Aug 28 06:57:33 <Snowwhitie> I had installed a increase smooth and touch app. but not the #10 one.  How do I remove the Old one and install the new one> any suggestion since i can't find the old one in any reference and when I try to install increase touch sensitivity and smoothness 10 it fails
Aug 28 07:03:12 <Snowwhitie> nm, i figured it out how to uinstall
Aug 28 07:03:16 <Snowwhitie> hope I can reinstall the proper one:)
Aug 28 07:06:43 <Freman> cursid language, coding in javascript leaves me prone to hitting F5 to try to refresh the page...
Aug 28 07:12:49 <Freman> vflex not work as well as hflex...
Aug 28 07:13:32 <Freman> I tell things in a vflexbox to be flex and they just pile on top of each other :(
Aug 28 09:08:19 <Freman> I've still got an issue where enyo seems to do things twice
Aug 28 09:18:00 <shades> http://developer.palm.com/distribution/viewtopic.php?f=70&t=9241 8 (
Aug 28 09:18:05 <shades> doesn't seem to give me a straight answer
Aug 28 09:20:21 <shades> why pdfs are failing
Aug 28 09:30:07 <shades> no fix from my laptop either i bet? i need an inet connection to the phone?
Aug 28 09:31:21 <Ironsight> did you try the other pdf reader?
Aug 28 09:31:38 <Ironsight> technically there's like 3
Aug 28 09:31:54 <Ironsight> if you convert to kindle that is
Aug 28 09:38:55 <Freman> so ummm.... http://dl.dropbox.com/u/46756/nodeusage.png - I have all this white space :(
Aug 28 09:41:08 <OoTLink> you know
Aug 28 09:41:17 <OoTLink> some parts of webos vaguely remind me of mac os 9
Aug 28 09:41:18 <OoTLink> lol
Aug 28 09:44:26 <shades> so uh
Aug 28 09:44:26 <rwhitby> Freman: add a bigpond usage too
Aug 28 09:44:32 <shades> apparently it's broken
Aug 28 09:44:35 <shades> and there is no fix for it
Aug 28 09:44:40 <shades> THANKS A LOT SCUMBAG HP!
Aug 28 09:49:54 <shades> apparently there is no fix
Aug 28 09:57:36 <dawm|tp> mooo
Aug 28 09:59:37 <dawm|tp> is there a TP Twitter client yet?
Aug 28 10:03:41 <Freman> @rwhitby uh have no access to any bigpond apis
Aug 28 10:05:01 <Freman> problem is... what do I do with all that whitespace?
Aug 28 10:05:51 <rwhitby> Freman: drop a picture of simon in there
Aug 28 10:05:57 <rwhitby> or a nodepony
Aug 28 10:06:25 <Freman> was thinking advisory listing perhaps...
Aug 28 10:06:46 <Freman> end goal is to get this into the touch pad app store
Aug 28 10:07:25 <Freman> node pony might be fun ;)
Aug 28 10:07:59 <Freman> going to tweak the progress bars some more, want to get the % in them
Aug 28 10:08:16 <dawm|tp> where is that flash plugin at again? I need to revert it
Aug 28 10:10:03 <Hendikins> Freman: Out of interest, have you considered pulling apart the NetUsage Firefox extension? http://netusage.iau5.com/
Aug 28 10:11:23 <Freman> nope
Aug 28 10:11:27 <Freman> maybe later
Aug 28 10:11:38 <Freman> I want a node usage one *right now* :D
Aug 28 10:12:29 <dawm|tp> nvm
Aug 28 10:12:32 <Freman> I could put *this months* usage graph at the bottom... keeping history for every other month or whatever
Aug 28 10:12:50 <Hendikins> I use Internode and BigPond, and the latter would actually be quite useful for me as my 3G data is a BigPond service.
Aug 28 10:13:04 <rwhitby> Freman: add an rrdtool library to it
Aug 28 10:13:27 <rwhitby> Hendikins: I have bigpond home and internode work (3 lines)
Aug 28 10:13:52 <Hendikins> rwhitby: BigPond home, Internode home, BigPond 3G.
Aug 28 10:13:52 <rwhitby> our office is across the road from the exchange in the city. we get nice speeds ;)
Aug 28 10:14:19 * Hendikins has seen 24.92 down on the 3G service before... that was nice.
Aug 28 10:14:43 <Freman> rrdtool... for what? it's not like your tablet is routing you :D
Aug 28 10:16:40 <Hendikins> For generating graphs, presumably.
Aug 28 10:17:34 <rwhitby> historical graphs going back long periods
Aug 28 10:17:47 <plov> whats the point in getting a custom kernel running ?
Aug 28 10:17:48 <Freman> node gives me all that on api
Aug 28 10:18:06 <rwhitby> Freman: ah, ok.
Aug 28 10:18:06 <Freman> I just have to plot it :)
Aug 28 10:18:12 <rwhitby> plov: none, it's a waste of time.
Aug 28 10:18:44 <rwhitby> unless you want to overclock, or save battery, or run truecrypt, etc ..
Aug 28 10:19:08 <[Author]> Sounds like very good reasons.
Aug 28 10:20:16 <rwhitby> well, I'm biased, so don't take my word for it.
Aug 28 10:22:51 <Freman> you're the guy from whirlpool rwhitby? :)
Aug 28 10:23:35 <Hendikins> The rwhitby who posted on Whirlpool is the rwhitby
Aug 28 10:23:40 <rwhitby> I'm rwhitby on Whirlpool, yes.
Aug 28 10:23:52 * Hendikins verifies this, by way of mod tools.
Aug 28 10:24:01 <[Author]> rwhitbyrwhitbyrwhitbyrwhitbyrwhitby
Aug 28 10:24:03 * rwhitby owns your device
Aug 28 10:24:49 <Freman> yep that's the post :D
Aug 28 10:25:23 <Freman> You can ignore my request for a terminal now, I set up the xterm - tho... i'd still like working keybindings :D
Aug 28 10:26:03 <rwhitby> when HP puts an escape key and arrows on their keyboard, we can use them
Aug 28 10:26:13 <rwhitby> at the moment, LunaSysMgr eats the Esc
Aug 28 10:26:44 <Freman> could we pilfer ideas from iSSH? :)
Aug 28 10:27:10 <Freman> they have a pop out at the top of the screen with extra keys
Aug 28 10:27:40 * Hendikins updates his NX server.
Aug 28 10:28:37 <rwhitby> we're thinking of a strip along the bottom edge of the X window
Aug 28 10:29:12 <Freman> hmmm that'd get in the road of the keyboard
Aug 28 10:29:27 <Freman> or does the x-window move up when that's shown?
Aug 28 10:29:38 <Freman> (sorry, only been deving on this thing for.... 10 hours :D)
Aug 28 10:30:28 <rwhitby> it would be between the X area and the keyboard
Aug 28 10:30:39 <rwhitby> or at the bottom if the keyboard is hidden
Aug 28 10:36:46 <Freman> any other dev tips based on my screenshot?
Aug 28 10:38:54 * Hendikins ponders how NX is mangling his shift key.
Aug 28 10:39:11 <Hendikins> Now I don't even get a keypress event if I fire up xev in an NX session.
Aug 28 10:39:47 <Freman> apparenty half of you are going away via netsplit
Aug 28 10:40:09 <rwhitby> Freman: the better half are still here
Aug 28 10:44:39 <Freman> quick grab their belongings!
Aug 28 10:53:52 <Freman> the europeans are back
Aug 28 10:56:30 <technikfreak> does anyone run the synergy things like msn, icqw on hp touchpoad?
Aug 28 11:13:44 <dawm|tp> I have gtalk and yahoo on my tp
Aug 28 11:14:05 <Freman> no msn on mine :(
Aug 28 11:14:15 <dawm|tp> and jrc :-)
Aug 28 11:14:37 <dawm|tp> err irc
Aug 28 11:16:24 <Da|Mummy> HA!
Aug 28 11:16:27 <Da|Mummy> it does exist
Aug 28 11:17:09 <dawm|tp> ?
Aug 28 11:17:17 <Da|Mummy> anyone in the mood to help a webos newb with his touchpad to overclock
Aug 28 11:17:31 <dawm|tp> uhh..
Aug 28 11:17:52 <Da|Mummy> ya ya i know...
Aug 28 11:17:59 <dawm|tp> get preware, install uberkernel and gonna. you're done.
Aug 28 11:18:15 <dawm|tp> gonna should be govnah
Aug 28 11:18:19 <Da|Mummy> right
Aug 28 11:18:25 <Da|Mummy> one little problem im hitting
Aug 28 11:18:29 <Da|Mummy> http://www.webosbuzz.com/hp-touchpad/694-how-overclock-hp-touchpad-1-5ghz.html
Aug 28 11:18:31 <dawm|tp> haven't modded the autocorrect yet
Aug 28 11:18:35 <Da|Mummy> following that guide
Aug 28 11:18:47 <dawm|tp> I just told you what to do
Aug 28 11:18:50 <Da|Mummy> i cant get past the testing feeds step
Aug 28 11:19:21 <Da|Mummy> right, so where do i type in webos-kernels-testing ?
Aug 28 11:19:30 <dawm|tp> its not in the testing feeds anymore
Aug 28 11:19:43 <Da|Mummy> hmm?
Aug 28 11:19:58 <dawm|tp> ignore everything on webosbuzz
Aug 28 11:20:06 <Da|Mummy> okay!
Aug 28 11:20:17 <dawm|tp> read the wiki on webos-internals.org
Aug 28 11:20:20 <Hendikins> Ignoring the mere existence of that site wouldn't be a bad idea.
Aug 28 11:20:31 <Hendikins> And yes, webos-internals.org is what you want.
Aug 28 11:20:38 <dawm|tp> webosbuzz promotes piracy.
Aug 28 11:20:58 <dawm|tp> as a devek
Aug 28 11:21:00 <dawm|tp> erg
Aug 28 11:21:09 <Da|Mummy> wikis are always good
Aug 28 11:21:21 <dawm|tp> as a developer I dont like that
Aug 28 11:21:25 <Hendikins> dawm|tp: For that reason I've been deleting all references to it on Whirlpool.
Aug 28 11:21:39 <Hendikins> (That I've seen)
Aug 28 11:21:45 <dawm|tp> what's whirlpool?
Aug 28 11:22:13 <technikfreak> dawm|tp : with an update??
Aug 28 11:22:15 <Hendikins> Australian forum, with several large threads on the TouchPad.
Aug 28 11:22:20 <technikfreak> the gtalk ect..?
Aug 28 11:22:20 <Da|Mummy> hows the heat running TP at 1.7ghz?
Aug 28 11:22:31 <dawm|tp> gotcha
Aug 28 11:22:47 <dawm|tp> technik, ?
Aug 28 11:23:13 <dawm|tp> gtalk I'd just google, add a google acct (gmail) and you can use it
Aug 28 11:23:39 <dawm|tp> I'm about to turn off this autovorrect..
Aug 28 11:25:14 <technikfreak> m
Aug 28 11:25:20 <technikfreak> i want to have msn and icq also
Aug 28 11:25:28 <dawm|tp> oh I see , there is no msn option
Aug 28 11:29:51 <rwhitby> Hendikins: thanks for your diligence
Aug 28 11:30:13 <rwhitby> Da|Mummy: http://www.webos-internals.org/wiki/Testing_Feeds
Aug 28 11:30:34 <dawm|tp> there were homebrew plugins for 1.x and 2.x I believe, strange that 3.x is limited
Aug 28 11:33:12 <dawm|tp> stranger yet, opened the app cat via the find more button, and there's no way to get back to the front of the appcat  wo/ relaunching
Aug 28 11:34:58 <Hendikins> rwhitby: Whirlpool rules, but I've been keeping an eye out for that specifically.
Aug 28 11:35:14 <Da|Mummy> thx rwatkins that helped my quest
Aug 28 11:36:31 <Da|Mummy> are 1.5 and 1.7 ghz on TP still at stock volt?
Aug 28 11:36:37 <dawm|tp> nice homebrew in pivot?
Aug 28 11:37:37 <rwhitby> Da|Mummy: UberKernel is stock voltages.  Voltage changes are being tested in the experimental kernels.
Aug 28 11:37:57 <rwhitby> Da|Mummy: you can adjust voltages in UberKernel advanced settings if you like too.
Aug 28 11:39:38 <Da|Mummy> right so where do i select the 1.5ghz option on govnah?
Aug 28 11:41:59 <rwhitby> Da|Mummy: are you following http://bit.ly/phd-ac ?
Aug 28 11:42:13 <dawm|tp> click on profile
Aug 28 11:43:16 <rwhitby> Da|Mummy: http://www.webos-internals.org/wiki/Application:Govnah
Aug 28 11:43:27 <rwhitby> (but look at the first link first)
Aug 28 11:47:30 <Da|Mummy> well i for one am quite surprised with capabilities of touchpad all of a sudden, didnt know there was this much of a homebrew scene behind it, $150 well spent
Aug 28 11:50:31 <dawm|tp> webOS isn't new
Aug 28 11:51:16 <dawm|tp> over 2 years of homebrewing
Aug 28 11:51:31 <Da|Mummy> ya i know, but i seriously thought this thing was only good for browsing, youtube, email, and angry birds :|
Aug 28 11:51:38 <dawm|tp> lol
Aug 28 11:51:45 <dawm|tp> it is
Aug 28 11:51:59 <dawm|tp> all at the same time too
Aug 28 11:52:20 <dawm|tp> unlike the other OS's
Aug 28 11:53:44 <dawm|tp> today I'm seeing if it can replace my laptop while I'm at work, just getting tired of lugging the MacBook around when I don't always use it
Aug 28 11:55:22 <Da|Mummy> ya i dont care for android and especially not ios/osx
Aug 28 12:05:43 <plov> i dont understand whats so must have about home brew?
Aug 28 12:06:05 <plov> like if homebrew is so amazing why doesnt the webos team commit it to their source?
Aug 28 12:06:40 <Da|Mummy> homebrew and open source is a must for me
Aug 28 12:06:57 <plov> i never used it, but i dont see the major selling points
Aug 28 12:07:11 <plov> because i dont understand if its so amazing why didnt webos include this stuff
Aug 28 12:08:32 <Da|Mummy> its impossible to make money off homebrew and opensource in todays market
Aug 28 12:08:57 <haeffb> I've made money off opensource
Aug 28 12:09:14 <Da|Mummy> did you invest it into a hardware product?
Aug 28 12:09:18 <Freman> I've no interest in making money - I just want my usual conveniences ported
Aug 28 12:09:38 <Freman> to me, time saved is more valuable than money
Aug 28 12:09:51 <Freman> you can never trully be compensated for time
Aug 28 12:10:19 <Da|Mummy> now why does f15c eagle fail verification?
Aug 28 12:10:27 <plov> ok so why do people choose to publish through homebrew instead of the app catalog?
Aug 28 12:10:33 <haeffb> I have several open source apps in the ctalog
Aug 28 12:10:46 <haeffb> plov: I do both
Aug 28 12:11:12 <plov> yea but why is it fragmented like that
Aug 28 12:11:17 <Freman> I have no idea plov, perhaps the agreement for the app catalog doesn't agree with some people
Aug 28 12:11:17 <haeffb> I submit beta versions through homebrew so that people can get them for free and give me feedback on bugs
Aug 28 12:11:20 <plov> i dont know why palm would encourage such fragmentation
Aug 28 12:11:23 <Freman> I read it, I didn't like it
Aug 28 12:12:01 <haeffb> and then submit paid versions to the catalog for those who 1) don't do homebrew or 2) don't want to bother with buggy (buggier?) versions
Aug 28 12:12:26 <Freman> I havn't decided if I will homebrew or catalog it - my target audience is smart enough to find the homebrew, and most likely to homebrew...
Aug 28 12:12:48 <plov> some of the tweaks im reading about, 'call duration in call log' why doesnt webos team use this stuff? lol why do they encourage people to have to make tweaks and patches to get basic features
Aug 28 12:12:59 <plov> and when they do make them why not use the code in the official source
Aug 28 12:13:02 <Da|Mummy> ok seriously, why does f15c eagle fail download verificaiton every time?
Aug 28 12:13:37 <Freman> plov because business bureaucracy is slow
Aug 28 12:13:40 <haeffb> plov: Palm/HP has limited resources
Aug 28 12:13:46 <dawm|tp> plov some tweaks do end up being included
Aug 28 12:13:58 <Da|Mummy> because you always have to dumb your product down to have any chance of selling, look at apple for example
Aug 28 12:14:10 <dawm|tp> I don't recall off hand, but I know some have
Aug 28 12:14:17 <haeffb> and all patches are MIT licensed specifically so that Palm CAN take them and use them in the official source
Aug 28 12:14:25 <plov> haeffb: yea i dont buy that one, because the code has been written for them and they just need to commit it to the official source and maybe write tests for it and done
Aug 28 12:15:00 <Freman> people call for more security on the webos, it's webos's relative lack of security that appeals to me, the ability to butcher it - however - businesses are terrified of this
Aug 28 12:15:06 <haeffb> well...it's not like their engineers don't have a long list of other things to do
Aug 28 12:16:38 <Da|Mummy> anybody try ubuntu on touchpad?
Aug 28 12:17:19 <Freman> need to poke dropbox - box.net is nice and all but no native client is a shit off, I end up copying most stuff from dropbox to box (might even make some sort of app to do that on my server)
Aug 28 12:18:25 <Freman> lol quickoffice is very very slow
Aug 28 12:21:25 <Freman> hmmm vegemite on toast - if there's anything great about this country... this is it
Aug 28 12:23:52 <dawm|tp> freman, you can map it as a drive, via webdav
Aug 28 12:24:09 <dawm|tp> box.net/dav
Aug 28 12:24:17 <dawm|tp> I did that on my mac
Aug 28 12:29:58 <cxreg> for all this "port android" crap, has anyone tried to build a dalvik for webos to simply run android apps?  is that possible?
Aug 28 12:30:30 <cxreg> i dont know the architecture enough to know
Aug 28 12:38:18 <Da|Mummy> name me some apps i need to have from preware
Aug 28 12:43:42 <dawm|tp>  quake
Aug 28 12:45:20 * Hendikins ponders some.
Aug 28 12:45:52 <Da|Mummy> quake, on tablet? no thanks, i got my OpenPandora for that
Aug 28 12:46:01 <Hendikins> Have to work out what NX does with my keyboard that VNC doesn't, and see if or how I can castrate it,
Aug 28 12:48:06 <dawm|tp> hrm nevermind, it works but bindings are off I can't get it to select the menu
Aug 28 12:48:37 <Da|Mummy> any good webbrowsers available, dont care for the webos browser on tp
Aug 28 12:50:30 <Da|Mummy> who is constantly ddosing em?
Aug 28 12:50:56 <Da|Mummy> whats the best media player?
Aug 28 12:51:00 * haeffb going to town to get coffee
Aug 28 12:51:19 <haeffb> hmmm...a "go to town and get me some coffee" app would be useful.
Aug 28 12:51:50 <dawm|tp> touchplayer plays a ton
Aug 28 12:52:12 <Da|Mummy> k thats the only one i saw really, so i grabbed that one
Aug 28 12:52:44 <Da|Mummy> any kind of file manager available for these things?
Aug 28 12:53:01 <dawm|tp> internalz, kinda
Aug 28 12:54:15 <Da|Mummy> great. any better webbrowsers?
Aug 28 12:54:47 <dawm|tp> nope
Aug 28 12:55:33 <Da|Mummy> why no chromium, midori, firefox? these are all open source :{
Aug 28 12:56:19 <cxreg> you can run them in ubuntu in X
Aug 28 12:56:21 <hotdp> Da|Mummy:yocando it?
Aug 28 12:56:33 <hotdp> *you can do it..
Aug 28 12:59:26 <Da|Mummy> cxreg, you tried ubuntu on tp?
Aug 28 12:59:45 <cxreg> havent had time yet
Aug 28 12:59:47 <cxreg> its easy
Aug 28 13:00:06 <Da|Mummy> im just wondering if its worth it and how well it works with touchscreen only
Aug 28 13:00:20 <cxreg> the vkb works fine
Aug 28 13:00:35 <cxreg> not sure about pointer accuracy
Aug 28 13:00:40 <cxreg> probably fine too
Aug 28 13:01:15 <cxreg> i have the x server and xterm installed, just not ubuntu yet
Aug 28 13:01:42 <cxreg> that may still require the testing feed
Aug 28 13:02:11 <cxreg> http://liliputing.com/2011/08/how-to-install-ubuntu-linux-on-an-hp-touchpad.html
Aug 28 13:07:09 <Da|Mummy> wheres the adblock for browser?
Aug 28 13:07:40 <cxreg> preware has one
Aug 28 13:07:46 <cxreg> but it's a little crude
Aug 28 13:09:18 <Da|Mummy> anything to add more options for the power button menu? like maybe a restart option?
Aug 28 13:11:28 <cxreg> you really should just install preware and look at the patches
Aug 28 13:13:39 <Da|Mummy> i have, not all are obvious what they are by name though, so its nice to ask
Aug 28 13:27:06 <Freman> right folks
Aug 28 13:27:10 <Freman> bed time for us down under
Aug 28 13:27:17 <Freman> rwhitby is probably already snoring
Aug 28 13:27:42 <LarrySteeze> Freman: not yet
Aug 28 13:28:24 <dawm|tp> da, there is a few
Aug 28 13:28:38 <dawm|tp> advanced menu or something
Aug 28 13:29:01 <Da|Mummy> ya i found one, looks good enough, adds reboot device, and reboot luna, thats enough
Aug 28 13:29:18 <Freman> LarrySteeze well.. some of us have to be up at 5 am... so now is a good time to flee
Aug 28 13:29:21 <Freman> cya's later
Aug 28 13:29:50 <dawm|tp>  advanced reset options
Aug 28 13:30:21 <Da|Mummy> ya thats the one
Aug 28 13:30:38 <Da|Mummy> anything better then Ad Blocker?
Aug 28 13:31:30 <Da|Mummy> well thx for scaring the crap out of me f15c eagle on your first bootup
Aug 28 13:31:38 <Caleb> lol
Aug 28 13:31:43 <Caleb> took so long?
Aug 28 13:31:46 <dawm|tp> max blocker, both are just hosts files with known advertiser servers 127'd out
Aug 28 13:31:59 <rwhitby> Da|Mummy: that's just to let you know you're running an experimental kernel.
Aug 28 13:32:07 <dawm|tp> lol
Aug 28 13:32:54 <Da|Mummy> ya i figured as much, and theres my first freezup :{ no 1.9ghz for me
Aug 28 13:34:23 <Hendikins> Hrm. My unit definitely can't do 1.9, but could be fine (as in at least doesn't lock up instantly) at 1.8
Aug 28 13:34:44 <dawm|tp> needs moar ice
Aug 28 13:36:19 <Khaytsus> Dry ice!  Oil immersion!
Aug 28 13:40:46 <Hendikins> 3 bit colour on VNC... this is ugly.
Aug 28 14:08:46 <dawm|tp> oooh gnometown works great on the touchpad :]
Aug 28 14:17:30 <Da|Mummy> deleted default profile in govnah, how do i get it back?
Aug 28 14:48:25 <dawm|tp> its sooo dead here at the airport
Aug 28 14:48:37 <dawm|tp> thanx hurricane
Aug 28 14:55:04 <Khaytsus> dawm|tp: Time to test..  What DOES happen to those pedways if you're on roller blades?
Aug 28 14:55:10 <Khaytsus> Science must know.
Aug 28 14:55:38 <dawm|tp> lol umm nothing?
Aug 28 14:55:58 <Khaytsus> Do you just sit there with it rolling under you?  :D
Aug 28 14:56:12 <dawm|tp> no not quite
Aug 28 14:58:11 <dawm|tp> but related to your question.. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nRNOuy9WX8U
Aug 28 14:58:53 <Khaytsus> wat
Aug 28 14:59:11 <Khaytsus> heheh
Aug 28 15:05:54 <dawm|tp> did you watch it? walkway humor
Aug 28 15:06:21 <Khaytsus> Yeah, heh
Aug 28 15:07:57 <dawm|tp> it is soooooooo dead in here today
Aug 28 15:08:04 <dawm|tp> hurricane victims?
Aug 28 15:08:33 <NuttyBunny> dawm|tp... It's sunday morning
Aug 28 15:08:56 <NuttyBunny> (afternoon, night, whatever)... it's sunday
Aug 28 15:09:02 <dawm|tp> pssh I've seen more ppl here before on a Sunday, err awake that is
Aug 28 15:09:44 <dawm|tp> I'm gonna go join the battle channel .. #touchpad
Aug 28 15:09:47 <NuttyBunny> well, there are several awake in #touchpad (pretty rude, I think they're still drunk from whatever party they had yesterday) :P
Aug 28 15:09:52 <NuttyBunny> hahahah
Aug 28 15:10:36 <dawm|tp> that channel is just #webos_vs_droid
Aug 28 15:10:49 <Khaytsus> Android you mean
Aug 28 15:11:34 <NuttyBunny> Khaytsus: be happy that dawm|tp refers to it as droid, I refer to it as robotOS, googleOS, etc
Aug 28 15:12:01 <Khaytsus> alrighty..
Aug 28 15:12:07 <Bmyers> looks like i might survive Irene in NY but its still rolling out and winds are still very strong
Aug 28 15:17:01 <dawm|tp> get a kite!
Aug 28 15:17:45 <Khaytsus> The hobos will all be washed at least.
Aug 28 15:28:04 <Bmyers> upstate NY, only hobo's around are me. I'm pretty clean already, showered last week.
Aug 28 15:32:27 <dawm|tp> yeah #touchpad is lame..
Aug 28 15:32:49 <dawm|tp> found out you can tap and hold instead of using shift
Aug 28 15:33:15 <Bmyers> seems slower than hitting shift that way
Aug 28 15:33:22 <dawm|tp> ‰¥€£³²¹¼¡!¡
Aug 28 15:33:45 <dawm|tp> shift that ¬_¬
Aug 28 15:34:39 <dawm|tp> I wish the tp had a slide out kb
Aug 28 15:38:24 <EricBlade> dawm|tp: i haven't checked this out to see how well it would work, but .. http://www.thinkgeek.com/computing/bags/e65a/    .. and i did read somewhere that iPad 1 cases are nearly a perfect fit
Aug 28 15:43:11 <dawm|tp> nah I'd like it to be like the pre hah
Aug 28 15:47:53 <EricBlade> dawm|tp: i like that case idea, though, i just kinda want to know if it will work with the tp before i try it. i suppose thinkgeek wouldn't have a problem with my checking it out and returning it if it didn't though
Aug 28 15:49:05 <dawm|tp> try s normal iPad case out at the applestore or bestbuy?
Aug 28 15:49:23 <dawm|tp> I hit s way too much when going for a
Aug 28 15:50:47 <dawm|tp> I cannot for the life of me get this one gmail acct go work on the tp, keeps saying unknown error
Aug 28 15:51:07 <dawm|tp> pissing me off
Aug 28 15:55:52 <dawm|tp> there finally got it, started adding it as a normal email acct and it did it's magic
Aug 28 16:10:54 <Bmyers> tropical storm irene now.. goodnight Irene..
Aug 28 16:20:25 <dawm|tp> anyone else get the random notification of 'syncing account' on their tp? its annoying me
Aug 28 16:39:35 * DougReeder waves hello
Aug 28 16:40:47 <DougReeder> My wife is on a trip with the TouchPad, and I miss it more than I would have thought.
Aug 28 16:45:55 <dawm|tp> lol
Aug 28 16:46:28 <thisisit> i was able to load a local html page with webview widget, but the loaded html cannot find the js and css files. how to make the runtime recognize the files? any specific pattern for the scr ??
Aug 28 16:47:57 <thisisit> anyone know a workaround?
Aug 28 16:48:01 <thisisit> please help
Aug 28 16:48:48 <Bmyers> thisisit: prolly not point to the right place . enyo i assume?
Aug 28 16:50:03 <thisisit> no, mojo
Aug 28 16:51:27 <thisisit> well i tried the exact path, but it doesn't seem to work
Aug 28 16:51:58 <thisisit> this is the path given by the loaded file url:file://file:0///media/cryptofs/apps/usr/palm/applications/
Aug 28 16:52:03 * DougReeder waves goodbye
Aug 28 16:53:46 <Bmyers> did u check your logs ?
Aug 28 16:53:55 <thisisit> yes
Aug 28 16:56:57 <Bmyers> and what did you see in the logs?
Aug 28 16:59:07 <thisisit> i see the html file loading.
Aug 28 16:59:43 <thisisit> what do you mean exactly?
Aug 28 16:59:59 <thisisit> do you want me to log something?
Aug 28 17:00:04 <Bmyers> error loading resource, security exception perhaps.. lookingfor an error
Aug 28 17:00:20 <Bmyers> if you pastebin code ppl usuakky chime in
Aug 28 17:00:21 <thisisit> no nothing.
Aug 28 17:00:30 <Bmyers> usually..
Aug 28 17:01:02 <thisisit> there are no errors. did you mean console logs ?
Aug 28 17:01:04 <kesne> Woop
Aug 28 17:01:19 <Bmyers> hello kesne
Aug 28 17:01:27 <kesne> Bmyers: Heya
Aug 28 17:01:49 <Bmyers> ever get more sales or was 5k the limit? (of freebies)
Aug 28 17:01:58 <kesne> Bmyers: Less, actually
Aug 28 17:02:05 <kesne> Bmyers: They limited it to 1k promo codes.
Aug 28 17:02:17 <kesne> I ended up with 5k failed transactions
Aug 28 17:02:24 <Bmyers> oh man.
Aug 28 17:02:44 <kesne> So basically, I made like nothing from it
Aug 28 17:03:14 <fxspec06> kesne: do you get reimbursed for them
Aug 28 17:03:18 <Bmyers> writing a pro app sometimes means pro-bono
Aug 28 17:03:22 <fxspec06> for the ones that did go thru
Aug 28 17:03:29 <kesne> fxspec06: Yeah
Aug 28 17:03:35 <kesne> But that's still only 1k
Aug 28 17:03:39 <kesne> I sell 1k in 3 days.
Aug 28 17:03:43 <fxspec06> well for me
Aug 28 17:03:49 <fxspec06> that's like a lot
Aug 28 17:04:04 <kesne> But Wild'n is like 2.99 right?
Aug 28 17:04:07 <dwc-> I'd take an extra $700... nothing to sneeze at
Aug 28 17:04:09 <fxspec06> it's .99
Aug 28 17:04:20 <fxspec06> well it's going up to 1.29
Aug 28 17:04:23 <kesne> And now people are emailing me asking for refunds because they saw that it was for free for a period of time.
Aug 28 17:04:28 <kesne> fxspec06: HA, SEE
Aug 28 17:04:36 <kesne> I was close, at least
Aug 28 17:04:39 <fxspec06> i haven't had a "job" almost 2 yrs
Aug 28 17:04:56 <fxspec06> so that's still nice of HPalm
Aug 28 17:05:16 <thisisit> how exactly can i access the dom error logs in webos emulator?
Aug 28 17:05:20 <kesne> fxspec06: 2 years?
Aug 28 17:05:31 <kesne> thisisit: palm-log -f com.mycompany.myapp
Aug 28 17:05:40 <dwc-> and so you said, "I'll make some money by making mobile apps... I know, I'll make webos apps" ?
Aug 28 17:05:43 <fxspec06> yeah. i was asst manager at this gas station / convenience store for 3 yrs, then i quit lol
Aug 28 17:06:00 <kesne> fxspec06: You live off of app revenue?
Aug 28 17:06:11 <fxspec06> nd i tried finding jobs but nobody would hire. so i learned to code
Aug 28 17:06:17 <fxspec06> i live w/ my parents
Aug 28 17:06:33 <Bmyers> first president you voted for?
Aug 28 17:06:40 <fxspec06> obama
Aug 28 17:06:56 <kesne> Haha, voting...
Aug 28 17:07:03 <Bmyers> could u by me a bear?
Aug 28 17:07:09 <Bmyers> or a beer?
Aug 28 17:07:22 <dwc-> by a live or dead bear?
Aug 28 17:07:26 <directhex> buy him a bear. that'd be awesome
Aug 28 17:07:27 <fxspec06> but yeah, i don't think i'll have my own place til i'm at least 25
Aug 28 17:07:28 <klausa> Plush bear will do?
Aug 28 17:07:37 <Bmyers> :)
Aug 28 17:07:38 <fxspec06> w/ college in the fall, i wanna get my associates
Aug 28 17:07:39 <Bmyers> jk.
Aug 28 17:07:53 <Bmyers> that great dude, glad you could re-train yourself
Aug 28 17:07:55 <fxspec06> got that grant money coming in. i ahven't even made a single cent off an app yet
Aug 28 17:08:17 <Bmyers> then u r a real prog'r
Aug 28 17:09:35 <dawm|tp> why are you loading local html in a webview?
Aug 28 17:09:58 <dawm|tp> holy wirc lagg
Aug 28 17:10:45 <dawm|tp> I want a bear coat
Aug 28 17:10:50 <fxspec06> lol my power just went on and off
Aug 28 17:10:51 <kesne> I want a puppy
Aug 28 17:11:08 <kesne> fxspec06: You don't have a UPS?
Aug 28 17:11:20 <fxspec06> nope
Aug 28 17:11:25 <kesne> D:
Aug 28 17:11:30 <fxspec06> oh i got a laptop
Aug 28 17:11:37 <fxspec06> my house power went on and off
Aug 28 17:11:43 <dawm|tp> I think I'm gonna start converting ailium to tp only, just need to redo the gfx and grid numbers
Aug 28 17:12:04 <kesne> ailium?
Aug 28 17:12:07 <dawm|tp> runs stellar in js/canvas mode
Aug 28 17:12:24 <dawm|tp> my game that can't run on phones as sdk
Aug 28 17:13:19 <dawm|tp> started to make a pdk version and learning c++ along the way, but I've been procrastinating ever since I got most of it done ax pdk
Aug 28 17:13:41 <dawm|tp> I would rather have it as SDK since I can do more
Aug 28 17:13:44 <kesne> dawm|tp: You're the worst
Aug 28 17:13:46 <directhex> apps that don't run on pre3 are smelly.
Aug 28 17:14:33 <dawm|tp> Kesne, yeah I'm lazy
Aug 28 17:14:43 <EricBlade> woot woot i got it parsing all what i needed now.
Aug 28 17:14:50 <dawm|tp> SDK version is like 80% done too
Aug 28 17:14:55 <EricBlade> now, i need to figure out if there's some way i can take raw html and give it to a enyo component and have it do something useful
Aug 28 17:14:56 <tptg> good afternoon
Aug 28 17:16:02 <tptg> what or how does one press esc on a touhpad? I am using vi and.... can't use it w/o esc :-)
Aug 28 17:16:06 <dawm|tp> like honestly I only wrote prejeweled to win the predevcamp contest
Aug 28 17:16:28 <tptg> just got the tp and webos is neat
Aug 28 17:16:28 <dawm|tp> then I just got lazy
Aug 28 17:16:51 <thisisit> Bmyers: i can't see any logs from the index.html or WebView.html loading in the logs. there are no js css loading errors.
Aug 28 17:17:04 <dawm|tp> few months went by and the appcat opened up so I started working on it again
Aug 28 17:17:28 <dawm|tp> I'm a procrastinating until something catches my attention developer
Aug 28 17:17:58 <dawm|tp> thisisit, why are you loading a local file in the first place
Aug 28 17:18:36 <thisisit> i have some data in the local file.
Aug 28 17:18:47 <thisisit> don't want to use any database
Aug 28 17:19:03 <dawm|tp> you don't need to use webview
Aug 28 17:19:27 <dawm|tp> its Mojo, just load it up with mojo/js
Aug 28 17:19:52 <thisisit> mojo/js?
Aug 28 17:20:11 <dawm|tp> an app is essentially a webview
Aug 28 17:20:22 <thisisit> you mean another widget?
Aug 28 17:20:44 <dawm|tp> you're adding overhead and a headache doing it the way your trying
Aug 28 17:21:13 <dawm|tp> load the file with JavaScript and Mojo
Aug 28 17:22:04 <thisisit> oh ok. it's a little bit overhead for me.
Aug 28 17:22:33 <thisisit> but if i get a way to load the js and css, it will be much easier
Aug 28 17:23:36 <thisisit> i have a phonegap application with a list which i load using the webview. it will be great if i could load the js and css in the webview. or as you said i have to load the data seperately
Aug 28 17:27:26 <EricBlade> anyone know if there's a enyo component i can shove some HTML into and have it render it?
Aug 28 17:28:55 <balrog> hmm
Aug 28 17:29:00 <balrog> the unlocked Pre2 on HP's site
Aug 28 17:29:04 <balrog> is that price with contract?
Aug 28 17:30:22 <azakus> EricBlade: {content:"<html stuff>", allowHtml: true}
Aug 28 17:32:13 <zefyx> without
Aug 28 17:38:36 <EricBlade> azakus: woot! ty. it's not beautiful but it's functional!
Aug 28 17:39:35 <sugardave> EricBlade: there's also kind: enyo.HtmlContent, which is basically the same thing, but allows you to stuff content into a div in the html and have it render when you overwrite document.body
Aug 28 17:39:59 <sugardave> you set the HtmlContent kind's srcId property to the id of the div in your html
Aug 28 17:43:30 <EricBlade> ok well now that i actually have the html that i need seperated out, i need to actually figure out a way to parse the individual bits and pieces so i can get the data i need from it, so this is just a stop gap to get it displaying -something- while i figure out the rest
Aug 28 17:46:10 <EricBlade> i should probably figure out how the hell i got the titlebar for my window at the bottom of the screen instead of the top.  but that might break everything
Aug 28 17:51:34 <snowwhitie> anybody here Overclock there TP recently?
Aug 28 17:53:33 <hemna> is there a homebrew TP kernel that supports overclocking?
Aug 28 17:53:41 <ryaxnb> how come the webos channel has more users in death than alive
Aug 28 17:54:38 <snowwhitie> no idea
Aug 28 17:54:47 <snowwhitie> is there webos-newbie
Aug 28 17:54:56 <snowwhitie> i'd like to go there. since I have questions lol
Aug 28 17:55:03 <sugardave> EricBlade: so you just need to parse elements out of the html?  piece of cake
Aug 28 17:56:19 <dawm|tp> balog, unlocked means no contract
Aug 28 17:57:33 <dwc-> <- js newb. if I say oldObj = document.getElementById('id') and oldObj is not null, I should be able to document.removeChild(oldObj) right?
Aug 28 17:58:11 <sugardave> oldObj.parent.remove...
Aug 28 17:58:40 <dwc-> .remove(oldObj) ?
Aug 28 17:58:47 <sugardave> no, removeChild(oldObj)
Aug 28 17:59:00 <sugardave> should be correct
Aug 28 17:59:09 <sugardave> oldObj.parent.removeChild(oldObj);
Aug 28 17:59:34 <dwc-> why wouldn't document.removeChild work?
Aug 28 17:59:42 <sugardave> does it not?
Aug 28 18:00:04 <dwc-> I got a Error: NOT_FOUND_ERR: DOM Exception 8
Aug 28 18:00:16 <dwc-> I'll try your suggestion, but I'm just curious
Aug 28 18:00:34 <sugardave> From the intarwebz: You must remove a node from its parent and not the document.
Aug 28 18:00:55 <dwc-> sorry, I should have specified a bit more, perhaps
Aug 28 18:01:04 <dwc-> createElement = function(document) { ...
Aug 28 18:01:30 <dwc-> and in this fn, it does document.createElement(...) etc
Aug 28 18:01:36 <sugardave> sure
Aug 28 18:01:38 <dwc-> so I thought document.removeChild() would work
Aug 28 18:01:55 <sugardave> oh you are overriding document...I see
Aug 28 18:01:58 <dwc-> so wouldn't the parent also be the document?
Aug 28 18:02:02 * dwc- didn't write this originally
Aug 28 18:02:43 <sugardave> dwc-: my guess is that when you try document.removeChild, it's really the document...and as I found a couple of people saying you can't just remove from the document itself, but have to do the remove from the element's parent
Aug 28 18:02:47 <sugardave> brb
Aug 28 18:03:23 <dwc-> ok that sounds plausible
Aug 28 18:04:41 <dwc-> Cannot call method 'removeChild' of undefined (using oldObj.parent.remove(oldObj)) ... suggests the object has no parent?
Aug 28 18:09:36 <dwc-> hmm, parentNode seems to hvae not spit an error
Aug 28 18:10:12 <dwc-> thanks dave
Aug 28 18:12:39 <Xuzz> I'm having a weird issue on my Pre 2: App Catalog downloads just don't work. Download failed every time.
Aug 28 18:12:48 <Xuzz> But other internet works.
Aug 28 18:12:57 <Xuzz> Oh wait.
Aug 28 18:13:38 <sugardave> dwc-: yeah, sometimes I just give general ideas and they may not be syntactically accurate :D
Aug 28 18:14:03 <dwc-> no prob.
Aug 28 18:14:22 <dwc-> I just tried it exact because I don't know the exact js bits either
Aug 28 18:14:28 <Xuzz> Okay. Solved my issue. Date and time was off.
Aug 28 18:14:33 <dwc-> (and parent seemed ok, since it colorized in vim)
Aug 28 18:23:30 <dawm|tp> Ryan, because some are trolls, some are working, and some are busy writing code.
Aug 28 19:00:49 <dwc-> huh. 32gb 4g touchpad... $200 CAD
Aug 28 19:01:10 <bpadalino> 4g? where at?
Aug 28 19:01:28 <dwc-> http://forums.precentral.net/hp-touchpad/295119-canadians-get-ready-touchpad-bliss.html
Aug 28 19:01:45 <bpadalino> wow
Aug 28 19:01:58 <dwc-> or the 64 no-4g
Aug 28 19:31:19 <gandhijee_> where does the browser download files to?
Aug 28 19:33:54 <Caleb> sup square
Aug 28 19:34:14 <bpadalino>  /media/internal/downloads i think?
Aug 28 19:34:18 <bpadalino> something like that
Aug 28 19:41:22 <square> not much, Caleb
Aug 28 19:42:04 <Caleb> i said hello because im ya neighbor to the north
Aug 28 19:42:06 <Caleb> im in nc
Aug 28 19:42:26 <square> oh, neat
Aug 28 19:42:27 <square> which part
Aug 28 19:43:04 <Caleb> im about 30 min above south of the border
Aug 28 19:43:08 <Caleb> right off 95
Aug 28 19:43:38 <square> cool
Aug 28 19:44:24 <Caleb> do you have a touchpad?
Aug 28 19:45:15 <balrog> gah, why can't I register at precental? :/
Aug 28 19:45:18 <balrog> precentral*
Aug 28 19:49:36 <square> no Caleb
Aug 28 19:49:44 <square> they cant seem to tell me when im getting mine
Aug 28 19:50:13 <Caleb> that sucks
Aug 28 19:51:36 <[owen]> when testing an app it opens horizontally in the sdk and is only the pre size
Aug 28 19:52:00 <[owen]> http://i.imgur.com/qdkjf.png
Aug 28 19:58:00 <dwc-> [owen]: look up uiRevision settings for mojo
Aug 28 20:01:51 <balrog> is there any way to get a Pre3 that works on AT&T in the US?
Aug 28 20:02:51 <Xuzz> balrog: I don't think so...
Aug 28 20:03:03 <Xuzz> but not sure.
Aug 28 20:03:06 <[owen]> ok cheers :)
Aug 28 20:04:24 <PatrickC_TP> hey Xuzz
Aug 28 20:04:25 <balrog> :[
Aug 28 20:05:17 <Xuzz> balrog: if you find a way, let me know, I would really want that
Aug 28 20:05:25 <PatrickC_TP> what's up?
Aug 28 20:05:35 <Xuzz> AT&T-compatible Pre 3
Aug 28 20:06:14 <balrog> apparently the current Pre3 works fine on 1900MHz ATT
Aug 28 20:06:18 <balrog> but 850MHz ATT is common too
Aug 28 20:06:20 <PatrickC_TP> ah
Aug 28 20:06:32 <balrog> I have an iPhone right now, wouldn't mind getting an unlocked Pre3 at all.
Aug 28 20:06:37 <balrog> (and swapping SIMs when I feel like it)
Aug 28 20:12:47 <Xuzz> that's what I'm trying to do too, balrog
Aug 28 20:16:49 <[owen]> i still cant get it too switch
Aug 28 20:17:18 <[owen]> it still opens up like the pre3 of the sdk and horizontal
Aug 28 20:17:47 <balrog> Xuzz: also I don't want to pay a ton
Aug 28 20:17:58 <Xuzz> balrog: same for me. let me know fi you find something.
Aug 28 20:18:21 <balrog> I will, and you let me know too.
Aug 28 20:18:25 <balrog> I think I've seen you before...
Aug 28 20:18:31 <balrog> in #iphone-dev?
Aug 28 20:19:05 <balrog> I still need to order more touchpads
Aug 28 20:19:15 <[owen]> fixed...missed a capital letter :L
Aug 28 20:19:16 <balrog> hopefully stock appears and stays like that, and HP's site doesn't go down
Aug 28 20:22:26 <balrog> Xuzz: is the pre2 worth getting at $50?
Aug 28 20:22:35 <balrog> don't think they'll have more stock, but who knows
Aug 28 20:22:41 <Xuzz> balrog: where?
Aug 28 20:22:53 <Xuzz> [01:14 PM] <balrog> in #iphone-dev? << maybe? I'm probably most known as @chpwn on Twitter
Aug 28 20:22:57 <balrog> hp's edu site shows it at $50 but out of stock
Aug 28 20:23:11 <balrog> ahhhh :) I keep forgetting
Aug 28 20:23:23 <balrog> well good work on the iphone side of things, and nice tweaks
Aug 28 20:23:30 <balrog> though I may have to re-jb my iphone, it's gone unstable
Aug 28 20:23:44 <balrog> :[
Aug 28 20:36:18 <EricBlade> i just got 2 of the screen protectors for $25 each at Best Buy.. not exactly a fantastic deal, but better than $30 each
Aug 28 20:50:00 <PatrickC_TP> time to work on my app!
Aug 28 20:50:06 <PatrickC_TP> haven't coded in forever
Aug 28 21:01:48 <RavenII> Anyone know if Enyo + Eclipse is possible?
Aug 28 21:05:11 <PatrickC_TP> why wouldn't it be?
Aug 28 21:05:22 <PatrickC_TP> Enyo is just a JavaScript framework
Aug 28 21:06:32 <RavenII> PatrickC_TP: ...I'm TOTALLY new to any sort of programming...I'm just following the tutorial for setting up eclipse...and it didn't seem like it was compatible..
Aug 28 21:06:35 <RavenII> or....soething
Aug 28 21:06:42 <PatrickC_TP> it is
Aug 28 21:06:52 <PatrickC_TP> the auto-generate won't work, but everything else should
Aug 28 21:07:02 <PatrickC_TP> I just use a Text Editor and cmd line
Aug 28 21:07:14 <PatrickC_TP> so idk about Eclipse...
Aug 28 21:11:17 <RavenII> Bah, I dunno....
Aug 28 21:11:26 <RavenII> I'm going out, weather is too beautiful
Aug 28 21:12:38 <PatrickC_TP>  lol
Aug 28 21:12:38 <PatrickC_TP> cya
Aug 28 21:13:00 <PatrickC_TP> anyone in here want an app idea? I have one, but can't do it
Aug 28 21:29:57 <PatrickC_TP> http://forums.webosroundup.com/index.php?threads/app-idea-email-group.792/
Aug 28 21:30:05 <PatrickC_TP> there's an app for SineOt to make :)
Aug 28 21:31:42 <Ironsight> guess he didn't think so
Aug 28 21:31:44 <Ironsight> lol
Aug 28 21:31:49 <PatrickC_TP> lol
Aug 28 21:31:56 <PatrickC_TP> I don't think it would be too hard to  make
Aug 28 21:32:06 <PatrickC_TP> but I don't have the time/knowledge to make it.. soo...
Aug 28 21:32:24 * Ironsight makes it and puts it up for 100 dollars
Aug 28 21:32:32 <PatrickC_TP> lol
Aug 28 21:32:39 <PatrickC_TP> if its open source, go right along :)
Aug 28 21:33:50 <Ironsight> opensource? what is this? socialism?
Aug 28 21:33:55 <Ironsight> ;)
Aug 28 21:33:56 <PatrickC_TP> yep
Aug 28 21:41:08 <LarrySteeze> sparkle is addicting >.<
Aug 28 21:41:20 <LarrySteeze> PatrickC_TP: how's C++ coming?
Aug 28 21:41:44 <LarrySteeze> PatrickC: How's C++ coming?
Aug 28 21:42:00 <PatrickC> LarrySteeze: hadn't had much time to practice
Aug 28 21:42:13 <PatrickC> I should be doing some c++/enyo dev tonight sometime
Aug 28 21:42:18 <LarrySteeze> If Patrick == "makes time"
Aug 28 21:42:26 <LarrySteeze> Then Practice == True
Aug 28 21:42:29 <PatrickC> lol
Aug 28 21:42:30 <LarrySteeze> end
Aug 28 21:42:42 <PatrickC> LarrySteeze: want to take on an app? :)
Aug 28 21:42:55 <PatrickC> I would do it, but don't have the time/knowledge to make it
Aug 28 21:43:11 <LarrySteeze> don't have the time, unfortunately
Aug 28 21:43:21 <LarrySteeze> what's the project though
Aug 28 21:43:37 <PatrickC> email group app
Aug 28 21:43:44 <PatrickC> either enyo/mojo full screen
Aug 28 21:43:52 <LarrySteeze> gotcha
Aug 28 21:44:12 <LarrySteeze> something the current email app can't do? O.o
Aug 28 21:44:18 <PatrickC> I have one that works good on my phone, but I want one for my touchpad
Aug 28 21:44:24 <PatrickC> yeah, unless its changed?
Aug 28 21:47:18 <PatrickC> I need it for beta groups
Aug 28 21:55:47 <SineOt> Okay, finally! It's working. :B
Aug 28 21:56:19 <PatrickC> lol
Aug 28 21:57:18 <SineOt> Anyone feeling daring with their new Touchpad? http://www.alsacorp.com/products/killercans/st/softfeel.htm#productinfo
Aug 28 21:57:42 * Ironsight juggles his invisable touchpad
Aug 28 21:58:09 <PatrickC> no
Aug 28 21:58:34 <PatrickC> I'll beta test apps, not actual products lol
Aug 28 21:58:51 * Ironsight beta tests bungie cords
Aug 28 21:58:59 * fxspec06 wants free apps too
Aug 28 21:59:07 <fxspec06> hey everyone, give me your apps so i can test them!!!
Aug 28 21:59:20 <fxspec06> =D
Aug 28 21:59:27 <PatrickC> twbbas: ping
Aug 28 21:59:46 * Ironsight hasn't charged for an app a day in his life
Aug 28 21:59:49 <SineOt> Pft, hardly a beta test.
Aug 28 21:59:53 <PatrickC> fxspec06: I have found many show-stopper bugs in apps..
Aug 28 22:00:03 <SineOt> Having a soft touch rubber backing would be nice.
Aug 28 22:00:28 <Ironsight> indeed
Aug 28 22:00:45 <PatrickC> SineOt: you got a touchpad? :D
Aug 28 22:00:47 <fxspec06> my app has some bugs
Aug 28 22:00:53 <SineOt> I wish. :<
Aug 28 22:01:00 <fxspec06> but i have no idea how to fix them, so psh
Aug 28 22:01:01 <Ironsight> fxspec06, the poker app?
Aug 28 22:01:05 <fxspec06> yep
Aug 28 22:01:13 <fxspec06> if you have it i can tell how to recreate =D
Aug 28 22:01:40 <Ironsight> I'll tell you on google+ when I get my touchpad
Aug 28 22:01:46 <fxspec06> lol ok
Aug 28 22:01:50 <Ironsight> lol
Aug 28 22:01:56 <Ironsight> that's IF I ever get it
Aug 28 22:02:12 <Ironsight> damn hurricane/tropical storm
Aug 28 22:03:44 <fxspec06> psh
Aug 28 22:03:49 <SineOt> (and at the last, it'd be nice to have a soft touch rubber back on my Nexus S)
Aug 28 22:03:53 <fxspec06> more like heavy downpours
Aug 28 22:03:56 <fxspec06> w/ some wind
Aug 28 22:06:14 <Ironsight> the company that has my touchpad is in NYC, and they said bloomberg shut down public transit today, causing them to not be staffed
Aug 28 22:08:22 <fxspec06> where u from
Aug 28 22:08:25 * Ironsight blinks at the tablet's specs... 18-bit color? that's an odd number
Aug 28 22:08:31 <Ironsight> Kentucky
Aug 28 22:08:36 <fxspec06> i c
Aug 28 22:08:40 <fxspec06> that
Aug 28 22:08:45 <PatrickC> tennessee FTW! :)
Aug 28 22:08:46 <fxspec06> 'is odd. mine shipped from TX
Aug 28 22:09:02 <PatrickC> mine shipped from Memphis (when I bought it from HP)
Aug 28 22:09:06 <fxspec06> 18 bit is miles better than 16 bit
Aug 28 22:09:06 <Ironsight> did you order through datavision?
Aug 28 22:09:16 <fxspec06> mine came from HP
Aug 28 22:09:18 <PatrickC> my loaner shipped from TX too
Aug 28 22:09:24 <PatrickC> fxspec06: you got a loaner
Aug 28 22:09:32 <Ironsight> yeah, he did
Aug 28 22:09:34 <fxspec06> no i don't
Aug 28 22:09:35 <fxspec06> it's mine
Aug 28 22:09:39 <fxspec06> so don't call it a loaner
Aug 28 22:09:43 <PatrickC> when you bought it from HP (at least when I did) it came from memphis
Aug 28 22:09:54 <PatrickC> you got yours thru the *loaner* progeam
Aug 28 22:09:57 <PatrickC> program*
Aug 28 22:10:07 <Ironsight> I would have thought it would have at least 24-bit color
Aug 28 22:10:28 <Ironsight> since linux seems to like 24-bit for some reason
Aug 28 22:10:30 <PatrickC> I think the color is pretty good on it
Aug 28 22:10:45 <fxspec06> iapd 2 has 18 bit display
Aug 28 22:10:49 <fxspec06> FYI
Aug 28 22:10:52 <fxspec06> ; )
Aug 28 22:11:00 <Ironsight> maybe in the future we will have some 32-bit color tablets :)
Aug 28 22:11:26 <fxspec06> gee i'm surprised, nobody is challenging me on that
Aug 28 22:11:41 <SineOt> kind of moot, since I don't think most people would be able to tell the difference
Aug 28 22:11:45 <Ironsight> I don't give a crap what ipad2 has, they don't have flash, I don't want it
Aug 28 22:11:56 <Ironsight> xD
Aug 28 22:12:24 <Ironsight> netflix though sure would be nice
Aug 28 22:12:34 <PatrickC> Ironsight: playon
Aug 28 22:12:44 <PatrickC> I hear that it works on the tp
Aug 28 22:12:54 <fxspec06> http://lowendmac.com/musings/08mm/thousands-of-colors.html
Aug 28 22:13:21 <Ironsight> I mean a real app
Aug 28 22:14:42 <oil> Tibfib_: using koto now :)
Aug 28 22:14:50 <PatrickC> so, if webos won't open the file, then it won't download it? :/
Aug 28 22:14:53 <PatrickC> ^ touchpad
Aug 28 22:15:29 <fxspec06> PatrickC: what are you talking about
Aug 28 22:16:07 <Ironsight> web browser?
Aug 28 22:16:14 <PatrickC> I tried to download a .zip file to my touchpad, and it refused to download
Aug 28 22:16:16 <PatrickC> email
Aug 28 22:16:57 <PatrickC> eh, uploaded to box.net and downloaded fine..
Aug 28 22:17:02 <PatrickC> but, just weird
Aug 28 22:17:11 <Ironsight> hrm
Aug 28 22:20:01 <PatrickC_TP> PatrickC: you registered this name? :P
Aug 28 22:20:38 <PatrickC> yes I did Larry :)
Aug 28 22:21:05 <oil> lol
Aug 28 22:21:16 <PatrickC> I register all my nics
Aug 28 22:21:18 <PatrickC> nicks
Aug 28 22:21:22 <Impostah> *shrug*
Aug 28 22:21:42 <Impostah> I guess if it's one you use regularly
Aug 28 22:21:53 <PatrickC> it is
Aug 28 22:23:13 <Impostah> there's still a tree blocking my street :-\
Aug 28 22:23:23 <Impostah> stupid tropical storm Irene
Aug 28 22:24:05 <Ironsight> I think ny haven't seen a tropical storm since... Hurricane Hugo
Aug 28 22:24:33 <Ironsight> hasn't*
Aug 28 22:24:42 <fxspec06> if anyone wants to pose as me for a bit
Aug 28 22:24:44 <fxspec06> be my guest
Aug 28 22:25:00 <fxspec06> i don't see why anyone would wanna do that though
Aug 28 22:25:05 <LarrySteeze|Away> I can run your tech support
Aug 28 22:25:19 <PatrickC> LarrySteeze|Away: you don't want that :P
Aug 28 22:25:37 * Ironsight is a poser
Aug 28 22:25:54 <LarrySteeze|Away> PatrickC: maybe I do, maybe I don't
Aug 28 22:26:25 <fxspec06> i think it's time to get to something i've been putting off for a while
Aug 28 22:26:56 <Ironsight> fixing a bug?
Aug 28 22:27:01 <fxspec06> psh no
Aug 28 22:27:04 <fxspec06> f that
Aug 28 22:27:18 <LarrySteeze|Away> figuring out why wildn closes right off on my touchpad?
Aug 28 22:27:26 <fxspec06> that's wayyy too hard
Aug 28 22:27:32 <fxspec06> you got wildn larry
Aug 28 22:27:50 <LarrySteeze|Away> I told you that a few times...and you ignored me every time -_-
Aug 28 22:27:51 <Ironsight> yes, and he wants a refund
Aug 28 22:27:57 <fxspec06> =O
Aug 28 22:27:58 <Ironsight> :)
Aug 28 22:28:05 <LarrySteeze|Away> I don't want a refund, I just want it to work
Aug 28 22:28:08 <fxspec06> sorry i never noticed
Aug 28 22:28:14 <fxspec06> what happenes? it doesn't load?
Aug 28 22:28:21 <fxspec06> did you remove and reinsta
Aug 28 22:28:23 <fxspec06> ll*
Aug 28 22:28:26 <LarrySteeze|Away> it opens the card and flashes
Aug 28 22:28:29 <LarrySteeze|Away> then it closes
Aug 28 22:28:39 <LarrySteeze|Away> yep
Aug 28 22:28:45 <fxspec06> hmm
Aug 28 22:29:10 <LarrySteeze|Away> I was going to write a review for you but if I can't get it to work :P
Aug 28 22:29:13 <fxspec06> do you have lumberjack installed?
Aug 28 22:29:23 <LarrySteeze|Away> yup
Aug 28 22:29:33 <fxspec06> can u see what the logs say (if anything)
Aug 28 22:29:37 <LarrySteeze|Away> what do you think I am, a pancake chef?
Aug 28 22:29:41 <fxspec06> lol
Aug 28 22:29:51 <fxspec06> if you were i'd ask for some pancakes
Aug 28 22:29:55 <LarrySteeze|Away> let me redownload the app
Aug 28 22:29:58 <fxspec06> k
Aug 28 22:30:03 <PatrickC> wow, the villo enyo app is nice
Aug 28 22:30:06 <LarrySteeze|Away> I've doctored a frew times since
Aug 28 22:30:07 <Ironsight> he just wants a sample of the log dump you left in the...
Aug 28 22:30:14 <Ironsight> memory
Aug 28 22:30:27 <fxspec06> there shouldn't be anything, loglevel 0
Aug 28 22:30:29 <LarrySteeze|Away> Ironsight: those pancakes will do that to you
Aug 28 22:30:38 <fxspec06> but if there's an error than it would spit blood
Aug 28 22:30:49 <fxspec06> (maybe)
Aug 28 22:30:59 <fxspec06> if not i can just send u the upcoming one
Aug 28 22:31:27 <LarrySteeze|Away> w00t
Aug 28 22:31:34 <LarrySteeze|Away> it's not listed as free anymore
Aug 28 22:31:34 <fxspec06> lol what it worked
Aug 28 22:31:44 <LarrySteeze|Away> it wants to charge me again >.<
Aug 28 22:31:59 <PatrickC> dude! my app is lightning fast on the TP!!!
Aug 28 22:32:21 <Ironsight> printf('hello world');
Aug 28 22:32:30 <PatrickC> yeahno.. lol
Aug 28 22:32:43 <LarrySteeze|Away> err
Aug 28 22:32:53 <fxspec06> did you pay for it?
Aug 28 22:32:54 <LarrySteeze|Away> somehow my touchpad is no longer attached to my account
Aug 28 22:33:02 <fxspec06> hmm
Aug 28 22:33:04 <LarrySteeze|Away> fxspec06: of course
Aug 28 22:33:11 <fxspec06> lol
Aug 28 22:33:11 <LarrySteeze|Away> give me a moment to hash this out
Aug 28 22:33:15 <fxspec06> it's a question i had to ask
Aug 28 22:33:23 <fxspec06> lmao
Aug 28 22:33:43 <LarrySteeze|Away> you offered me a promo code but I figured it's worth the .99
Aug 28 22:33:44 <HattCzech> anyone here played with touchubuntu, or should i ask those questions in webos-internal?
Aug 28 22:33:52 <HattCzech> webos-internals*
Aug 28 22:34:04 <PatrickC> probably the webos-internals channel
Aug 28 22:34:06 <PatrickC> but I have
Aug 28 22:34:08 <fxspec06> sweet =) it's more than worth it
Aug 28 22:34:21 <HattCzech> PatrickC: did you mess with the resolution?
Aug 28 22:34:22 <fxspec06> k time to make a hundred mediocre card backs
Aug 28 22:34:29 <dwc-> no, touchubuntu should be in #touchdroid or #touchpad
Aug 28 22:34:29 <fxspec06> a hundred thousand million*
Aug 28 22:34:35 <LarrySteeze|Away> that is
Aug 28 22:34:38 <PatrickC> HattCzech: nope
Aug 28 22:34:40 <LarrySteeze|Away> if it didn't brick my touchpad
Aug 28 22:35:03 <Ironsight> fxspec06, I can help :)
Aug 28 22:35:09 <HattCzech> dwc-: you think so? rod was working on it, so i figured internals would be the place
Aug 28 22:35:20 <fxspec06> i got the layer styles done
Aug 28 22:35:22 * PatrickC is really excited to work on his app again :D
Aug 28 22:35:24 <fxspec06> i just need cool images
Aug 28 22:35:40 <fxspec06> there's a few in this folder that will work
Aug 28 22:35:55 <fxspec06> how about this lady's ass? hell yes
Aug 28 22:36:03 <Ironsight> lol
Aug 28 22:37:29 <Ironsight> you can use any images off my deviantart if you want
Aug 28 22:37:56 <LarrySteeze|Away> fxspec06: i can pose for you
Aug 28 22:38:04 <fxspec06> oh yeah this is gonna be the HOTTEST one ever =p
Aug 28 22:38:12 <fxspec06> i should start charging for these
Aug 28 22:38:28 * Ironsight takes a picture of some plumber's crack
Aug 28 22:39:37 <LarrySteeze|Away> *sigh* it charged me a second time for it -_-
Aug 28 22:39:41 <Ironsight> http://www.google.com/search?q=plumbers+crack&hl=en&rlz=1C1CHFX_enUS443US443&prmd=ivns&tbm=isch&tbo=u&source=univ&sa=X&ei=ssJaTvGtEuGssQLo94izDA&ved=0CCsQsAQ&biw=1600&bih=756
Aug 28 22:39:55 <fxspec06> did it?
Aug 28 22:39:55 <PatrickC> who wants to see my app? PM me if interested. touchpad needed
Aug 28 22:40:00 <fxspec06> i'm sorry larry
Aug 28 22:40:02 <LarrySteeze|Away> it said it was going to
Aug 28 22:40:07 <LarrySteeze|Away> it's not you
Aug 28 22:40:12 <fxspec06> i know =(
Aug 28 22:40:20 <LarrySteeze|Away> I could have logged on using another profile *shrug*
Aug 28 22:40:44 <LarrySteeze|Away> when you have multiple 1.x devices, you have multiple profiles :-\
Aug 28 22:40:59 * PatrickC has multiple 2.x devices
Aug 28 22:41:03 <PatrickC> and multiple profiles :)
Aug 28 22:41:06 <LarrySteeze|Away> woot
Aug 28 22:41:11 <LarrySteeze|Away> on the plus side, it just loaded
Aug 28 22:42:00 <LarrySteeze|Away> no sound?
Aug 28 22:42:04 <fxspec06> lol it loaded nice!
Aug 28 22:42:05 <fxspec06> options
Aug 28 22:42:48 <LarrySteeze|Away> should be sounds when you click on things
Aug 28 22:42:56 <fxspec06> woo lady's ass is done
Aug 28 22:42:59 <fxspec06> i can do that
Aug 28 22:43:06 <LarrySteeze|Away> I'm confused...where's the video part? how do I play strip poker with my female friends on this?
Aug 28 22:43:32 <fxspec06> there's no video
Aug 28 22:43:36 <fxspec06> it's 'video poker'
Aug 28 22:43:41 <fxspec06> like casino video poker
Aug 28 22:43:46 <LarrySteeze|Away> i know
Aug 28 22:43:54 <LarrySteeze|Away> you should integrate skype though :P
Aug 28 22:44:02 <fxspec06> no way
Aug 28 22:44:12 <PatrickC> haha
Aug 28 22:44:37 <fxspec06> i'm gonna love touching this stripper 5+ times per hand
Aug 28 22:44:58 <LarrySteeze|Away> eh?
Aug 28 22:45:05 <LarrySteeze|Away> a pair of kings doesn't win anything?
Aug 28 22:45:16 <PatrickC> kesne: hey
Aug 28 22:45:19 <fxspec06> pretty sure it does
Aug 28 22:45:33 <fxspec06> depends if you had a wild card or not. go check payouts
Aug 28 22:45:34 <LarrySteeze|Away> kesne: did you get ahold of anthony?
Aug 28 22:46:51 <LarrySteeze|Away> alright...note to self: never let grandfather borrow touchpad. He's addicted to video poker
Aug 28 22:47:01 <PatrickC> haha
Aug 28 22:47:29 <fxspec06> ; )
Aug 28 22:47:38 <kesne> PatrickC: Hi
Aug 28 22:47:41 <kesne> LarrySteeze|Away: Nope
Aug 28 22:48:17 <fxspec06> hmm i don't know if i should include this card back
Aug 28 22:48:17 <LarrySteeze|Away> I do have to say, this game isn't going to do much for my self esteem
Aug 28 22:48:21 <LarrySteeze|Away> it keeps calling me a loser
Aug 28 22:48:29 <PatrickC> hahaha
Aug 28 22:48:33 <fxspec06> it's definitely rated pg-13+
Aug 28 22:48:39 <PatrickC> the game must hate me too
Aug 28 22:48:43 <fxspec06> pg-15
Aug 28 22:48:45 <PatrickC> it called me that tons of times
Aug 28 22:48:49 <PatrickC> fxspec06: really?
Aug 28 22:48:53 <PatrickC> what did you add?! lol
Aug 28 22:48:55 <fxspec06> lol you be the judge
Aug 28 22:49:03 <PatrickC> send?
Aug 28 22:49:09 <LarrySteeze|Away> fxspec06: why don't you add themes via preware instead?
Aug 28 22:49:11 * PatrickC wonders if he should have asked
Aug 28 22:49:12 <PatrickC> :P
Aug 28 22:49:21 <fxspec06> http://i.imgur.com/oba0v.png
Aug 28 22:49:22 <kesne> LarrySteeze|Away: He ignored my email :'(
Aug 28 22:49:40 <fxspec06> LarrySteeze|Away: it's my own GUI
Aug 28 22:49:44 <fxspec06> i make my themes
Aug 28 22:49:48 <LarrySteeze|Away> i know
Aug 28 22:49:50 <PatrickC> fxspec06: definitely nsfw lol
Aug 28 22:50:04 <fxspec06> it looks like ass on the TP
Aug 28 22:50:09 <PatrickC> you should have a *safe for work* version
Aug 28 22:50:14 <PatrickC> and a nsfw version
Aug 28 22:50:20 <LarrySteeze|Away> but "extra" themes you don't include in the regular version
Aug 28 22:50:35 <fxspec06> i'll just do a NSFW pack
Aug 28 22:50:41 <fxspec06> an extra $.99
Aug 28 22:50:57 <fxspec06> it'll include guns, blood, violence, semi-nudity
Aug 28 22:51:34 <fxspec06> too bad too. that's my favorite card back yet
Aug 28 22:52:52 <fxspec06> oh who here votes me to take off the wild'n words on the graphical cardbacks
Aug 28 22:55:34 <Satellite> I like big butts and I cannot lie
Aug 28 22:56:44 <directhex> i deny it.
Aug 28 23:00:33 <fxspec06> mmk got 2 done
Aug 28 23:00:36 <PatrickC> bbl
Aug 28 23:06:56 <Hendikins> Well this is god. With a VNC client and Kopete able to be run, my laptop really can stay at home.
Aug 28 23:07:00 <Hendikins> er, good.
Aug 28 23:07:25 <fxspec06> WOOOOOO
Aug 28 23:07:32 <fxspec06> my FUGLY card backs are getting a remake
Aug 28 23:07:46 <fxspec06> all the colored ones are going from FUG to KILLER
Aug 28 23:08:00 <fxspec06> muahahaha
Aug 28 23:08:08 <fxspec06> and i can dupe them and make many more colours
Aug 28 23:08:27 <fxspec06> people are going to love this next update
Aug 28 23:17:19 <Ironsight> acrobat for windows, Y U HAZ SO MANY UPDATES? *whispers in adobe's ear*, you are just a *BEEP*ing document viewer.
Aug 28 23:18:13 <Ironsight> http://www.ebaumsworld.com/video/watch/357938/
Aug 28 23:28:40 <dawm|tp> so.. when are we gettin a minecraft port?
Aug 28 23:30:57 <oil> lol
Aug 28 23:30:58 <Hendikins> At a guess... when somebody ports it?
Aug 28 23:31:12 <oil> send notch a tp
Aug 28 23:31:44 <summatusmentis> doesn't minecraft use java?
Aug 28 23:31:50 <summatusmentis> so you'd need to port java first
Aug 28 23:31:51 <oil> yes
Aug 28 23:39:44 <Xuzz> summatusmentis: i think it's just the native parts of minecraft missing
Aug 28 23:43:18 <dawm|tp> still no Patrick? he didn't live on the coast did he?
Aug 28 23:43:59 <Shadyman1> Hah. Cat just saw the TP. He was all WTF is this? *sniff* Meh.
Aug 28 23:44:30 <Shadyman1> probably the new rubbery plastic smell of the cover turned him off
Aug 28 23:44:52 <square> has anyone who ordered through SMB around august 20 heard anything yet?
Aug 28 23:44:57 <dawm|tp> lol
Aug 28 23:45:38 <dawm|tp> I ordered from the normal hp.com, got my tp friday
Aug 28 23:45:57 <oil> :(
Aug 28 23:46:08 <dawm|tp> oil, you still working on wircenyo?
Aug 28 23:46:16 <oil> yeah
Aug 28 23:46:19 <square> i would really like either my $250 back, or something to show for it
Aug 28 23:46:37 <Shadyman1> square: Did they charge it or just put a hold on it?
Aug 28 23:46:41 <dawm|tp> is it at a usable state yet? wircmojo is annoying me
Aug 28 23:46:44 <Shadyman1> ie preauth
Aug 28 23:46:53 <square> charge
Aug 28 23:46:56 <oil> it... works
Aug 28 23:47:01 <dawm|tp> lol
Aug 28 23:47:07 <oil> doesnt do as much as mojo yet though
Aug 28 23:47:40 <square> the fact that i cant even check the order status is pissing me off
Aug 28 23:47:43 <dawm|tp> its only avail from the git right?
Aug 28 23:47:50 <square> i get the order number not found in vista error
Aug 28 23:47:57 <oil> feel free to git pull/palm-package/palm-install it
Aug 28 23:48:04 <square> when i called hp, all the guy could tell me was that my order had not been canceled
Aug 28 23:48:06 <oil> (tis got a different appid from mojo atm)
Aug 28 23:48:06 <dawm|tp> kk
Aug 28 23:48:17 <Shadyman1> Mojo? http://tinyurl.com/28q9thu
Aug 28 23:48:59 <oil> not that mojo
Aug 28 23:49:03 <dawm|tp> can we build from the tp yet? would be handy
Aug 28 23:49:03 <Shadyman1> o
Aug 28 23:50:15 <oil> when mojo is said in this channel its in references to the old js framework
Aug 28 23:52:09 <fxspec06> I.E. wild'n video poker is a mojo app
Aug 28 23:53:17 <dawm|tp> 2012 is the ez
Aug 28 23:53:21 <dawm|tp> fudge
Aug 28 23:53:33 <dawm|tp> 2012 is the earthy hard reset
Aug 28 23:53:40 <dawm|tp> wtf
Aug 28 23:53:45 <dawm|tp> earths
Aug 28 23:54:53 <fxspec06> loll
Aug 28 23:55:02 <fxspec06> yes dawm that is correct
Aug 28 23:55:13 <fxspec06> the beginning of a new age
Aug 28 23:55:24 <fxspec06> the prophets were correct also
Aug 28 23:55:31 <fxspec06> look at us. this is a new age
Aug 28 23:55:37 <fxspec06> tablets, cell phones
Aug 28 23:55:41 <fxspec06> :D
Aug 28 23:56:37 <fxspec06> the earth's planets will align with the constellation orion and the arrangement of the great pyramids of egypt exactly two times in 2012
Aug 28 23:57:01 <fxspec06> for 3 days in august and dec 9 - 12
Aug 28 23:58:03 <dawm|tp> earth had planets?
Aug 28 23:58:08 <dawm|tp> has
Aug 28 23:58:17 <fxspec06> lol
Aug 28 23:58:21 <fxspec06> lmao
Aug 28 23:58:56 <fxspec06> just the planets. not belonging to anything. our solar system's planets i guess
Aug 29 00:00:12 <dawm|tp> can we get a default homepage patch?
Aug 29 00:00:39 <fxspec06> for real
Aug 29 00:10:35 <dawm|tp> who else is still trying to keep the plastic cover that comes on the tp intact? mine is missing the labels and is torn.. need a screen protector asap!
Aug 29 00:20:46 <dawm|tp> nvm just ripped that sheeit off hah
Aug 29 00:21:43 <EricBlade-TouchP> hi guys
Aug 29 00:23:29 <EricBlade-TouchP> got what I hope is the hardest part of the app I was working on last night up and running. the code is pretty terrible so I'm quite surprised that it seems like it flies even though its an Enyo app and I really haven't seen any of those that actually work
Aug 29 00:23:29 <EricBlade-TouchP>  smoothly.
Aug 29 00:25:30 <EricBlade-TouchP> can't wait to get home from work and implement the rest of it, then I'll actually sit down and figure out how the he'll to build a proper GUI in this Enyo stuff.  and then probably write a program to assist with building guis
Aug 29 00:25:52 <EricBlade-TouchP> unless there is one around somewhere that I haven't heard of yet
Aug 29 00:26:35 <dawm|tp> Enyo not work well?... all the default tp apps are enyo
Aug 29 00:27:18 <dawm|tp> someone on Twitter said the kin lasted longer than HP webos...
Aug 29 00:29:18 <Ironsight> it sucks! I coded a huge app in python, and it didn't know what I was smoking!
Aug 29 00:29:24 <Ironsight> lol
Aug 29 00:30:51 <directhex> dawm|tp: the touchpad, yes, by a day.
Aug 29 00:31:02 <directhex> dawm|tp: webos? that came out 2 years ago
Aug 29 00:31:18 <dawm|tp> the touchpad isn't webOS, its hardware
Aug 29 00:31:46 <dawm|tp> webOS isn't dead, hardware is
Aug 29 00:32:19 <dawm|tp> 06/06/2009
Aug 29 00:32:29 <dawm|tp> over 2 yrs now :-)
Aug 29 00:35:26 <kesne> poop
Aug 29 00:35:29 <kesne> monkey butt
Aug 29 00:39:19 <dawm|tp> wtf is wrong with these idiots on twitter.. or did we not get notified?
Aug 29 00:39:56 <dawm|tp> saying webOS got the axe today..
Aug 29 00:40:19 <Khaytsus> Most people on twitter are idiots
Aug 29 00:40:31 <fxspec06> webos got the axe today?
Aug 29 00:40:36 <fxspec06> huh what did i miss
Aug 29 00:41:21 <dawm|tp> I could spend an entire day correcting them.. why did I setup a search card for 'webos'
Aug 29 00:41:27 <fxspec06> lmfao
Aug 29 00:41:48 <fxspec06> i could spend the rest of my life correcting people. what a giant waste of time
Aug 29 00:42:31 <dawm|tp> so am I missing something? or is there no bookmark manager..
Aug 29 00:42:54 <dawm|tp> I cannot redo the bookmark icons, or rearrange their order
Aug 29 00:43:14 <crazy8> has anyone had moose tracks ice cream?
Aug 29 00:43:19 <fxspec06> nope
Aug 29 00:43:23 <fxspec06> can't rearrange them
Aug 29 00:43:27 <fxspec06> can't change the icons
Aug 29 00:43:33 <fxspec06> nope nope nope. sucks sucks sucks
Aug 29 00:43:44 <Khaytsus> Kid like moose tracks ice cream.  I ask her if she wants her "moose poop"
Aug 29 00:44:00 <dwc-> nope nope nope. worse than webos2's bookmark manager :P
Aug 29 00:44:15 <crazy8> i cant stop eating it
Aug 29 00:45:56 <dawm|tp> dwc, 2.x bookmark manager works fine, just like 1.x
Aug 29 00:46:07 <dawm|tp> 3.x seems unfinished
Aug 29 00:46:29 <dwc-> well, it works "ok" (2.x)
Aug 29 00:47:10 <dwc-> it's functional, if minimal
Aug 29 00:47:18 <javispedro> the one thing I do not understand about the PDK: why did Palm clamp the acceleration max value to 1G?
Aug 29 00:48:35 <EricBlade-TouchP> wtf  the clockmon this thing is 10 ,minutes off and yahoo refuses to allow me to login because of it   how do I fix the clock?
Aug 29 00:49:56 <EricBlade-TouchP> dawm all the default apps are slow as hell
Aug 29 00:50:52 <EricBlade-TouchP> screen scrolling can not afford to be slow it needs to be smooth.
Aug 29 00:51:15 <EricBlade-TouchP> and
Aug 29 00:51:19 <EricBlade-TouchP> its not
Aug 29 00:51:46 <dawm|pre2> teehee
Aug 29 00:52:25 <dawm|pre2> I should boot up the laptop, and login on the ipod.
Aug 29 00:52:52 <EricBlade-TouchP> I'm sure someone thought that having the screen bounce around off the edges and all over the place was a great looking idea but it makes the system look like a joke
Aug 29 00:53:19 <Hendikins> This is interesting. When I run Kopete using XServer/Ubuntu, receiving a message actually crashes the device.
Aug 29 00:53:25 <Shadyman> hah
Aug 29 00:54:57 <Shadyman> Hmm. #webos isn't listed on http://freenode.net/primary_groups.shtml ?
Aug 29 00:55:02 <EricBlade-TouchP> the menu on developer.palm.com doesn't even fucking work from the webOS browser! wtf  is that?!
Aug 29 00:56:30 <kesne> I want a a macbook air
Aug 29 00:58:08 <dawm|pre2> I traded mine for a macbook :P
Aug 29 00:58:19 <kesne> I have a macbook pro
Aug 29 00:58:23 <dawm|pre2> I bought the air for $300 so its still win for me
Aug 29 00:59:09 <dawm|tp> :-)
Aug 29 00:59:40 <kesne> dawm|tp: Where?
Aug 29 01:00:01 <dawm|tp> a coworker
Aug 29 01:00:06 <Shadywoman> dawm|tp: I hate you
Aug 29 01:00:29 <dwc-> was it broken or something?
Aug 29 01:00:51 <dawm|tp> I miss the multi-touch track pad and backlit kb, but the added storage and ram/CPU bump
Aug 29 01:00:59 <dawm|tp> it was a 1gen air
Aug 29 01:01:12 <Shadywoman> ew
Aug 29 01:03:51 <Shadyman> yay
Aug 29 01:04:15 <Shadyman> Shadywoman: Don't make me come over there.
Aug 29 01:04:29 <Shadywoman> Shadyman: What are you talking about
Aug 29 01:04:37 <Shadyman> Nothing in particular.
Aug 29 01:05:15 * Shadyman searches for a large trout.
Aug 29 01:05:55 * Hendikins wonders why Qt4 stuff on the whole seems unstable when using XServer.
Aug 29 01:11:15 <Shadyman|TP>  
Aug 29 01:11:28 <dawm|tp> oil you needn't change your nick
Aug 29 01:11:35 <dawm|tp> its a pre2
Aug 29 01:12:11 <oil_pre> its still a pre
Aug 29 01:12:27 <dawm|tp> but bettar
Aug 29 01:12:54 <oil_pre> the second version
Aug 29 01:13:06 <halfhalo> psh
Aug 29 01:13:16 <oil_pre> unfortunately not 3rd version
Aug 29 01:13:34 <dawm|tp> actually.. it is the 3rd
Aug 29 01:13:43 <oil_pre> right
Aug 29 01:13:43 <dawm|tp> pre,pre plus,pre2,pre3
Aug 29 01:13:45 * halfhalo goes to bash his computer with a hammer for not being able to read/write devedes
Aug 29 01:14:14 <Ironsight> dvd decrypt?
Aug 29 01:14:24 <dawm|tp> or would you consider th plus a 1.5
Aug 29 01:14:35 <oil_pre> yeah
Aug 29 01:15:15 <dawm|tp> yay.. dog slobber on my screen..
Aug 29 01:15:46 <Ironsight> well quit photoshopping milkbones :)
Aug 29 01:15:59 <oil_pre> dog wants to chat
Aug 29 01:16:20 <dawm|tp> no Photoshop for tp
Aug 29 01:16:41 <Ironsight> maybe he's trying to lick the twitter bird
Aug 29 01:17:17 <dawm|tp> no Twitter bird, I use spaz
Aug 29 01:17:17 <EricBlade-TouchP> wow the computer I've been plugged into for three hours hasn't charged this battery one bit
Aug 29 01:17:32 <EricBlade-TouchP> I'm downnto 70% after 4 hrs off
Aug 29 01:17:40 <Shadyman|TP> !surprising
Aug 29 01:17:49 <dawm|tp> Eric, USB charge is supernsupernsuper super slow
Aug 29 01:17:55 <Shadyman|TP> ^
Aug 29 01:18:00 <Ironsight> EricBlade the charger uses more amps, the usb is lower amps
Aug 29 01:18:06 <dawm|tp> it even tells you that its not gonna charge
Aug 29 01:18:11 <Shadyman|TP> 0.5A vs 1-2A
Aug 29 01:20:05 <Ironsight> which will kill you quicker, 110 volts at 2 amps, or 12 volts at 50 amps?
Aug 29 01:20:13 <dwc-> if you leave the touchpad on, screen on it uses pretty close to 500mA
Aug 29 01:20:22 <EricBlade-TouchP> my pc at home charges it at about 1% every 15 minor so
Aug 29 01:20:51 <dwc-> I was too lazy to take it to the charger last night, so it made it (screen off) from about 24% to about 70%
Aug 29 01:21:57 <fxspec06> wow
Aug 29 01:22:02 <fxspec06> my file size just went from 10mb
Aug 29 01:22:03 <EricBlade-TouchP> first thing I noticed with this pad is that the USB connection seems very wiggly on it.  on both of them that we have.  this does not make me feel warm and fuzzy
Aug 29 01:22:03 <fxspec06> to 25mb
Aug 29 01:22:19 <Ironsight> fxspec06, tweak your image compression
Aug 29 01:22:24 <fxspec06> lol
Aug 29 01:22:27 <Shadyman> EricBlade-TouchP: Thank microUSB for that, ala Apple/RIM/etc
Aug 29 01:22:31 <fxspec06> ya i'm gonna have to
Aug 29 01:22:32 <fxspec06> lol
Aug 29 01:22:37 <EricBlade-TouchP> especially since if I wiggle it it will drop the connection briefly
Aug 29 01:22:52 <Shadyman> EricBlade-TouchP: It shouldn't do that.
Aug 29 01:22:58 <Ironsight> fxspec06, what format are your images?
Aug 29 01:23:00 <EricBlade-TouchP> handyman I have plenty of other devices that are micro and do not wiggle like that
Aug 29 01:23:22 <EricBlade-TouchP> should I call HP about it?
Aug 29 01:23:28 <fxspec06> .png
Aug 29 01:23:29 <the20yrlaptop> Any way to unzip a file in webos 3.0.2?
Aug 29 01:23:32 <dawm|tp> its the slightly larger than needs to be port
Aug 29 01:23:37 <Ironsight> ooh, hrm
Aug 29 01:23:41 <fxspec06> ya
Aug 29 01:23:44 <dawm|tp> get the touchstone and be happy
Aug 29 01:23:52 <Ironsight> so I'm sure you are already using level 9 compression
Aug 29 01:23:54 <fxspec06> i COULD make the backdrops not .png
Aug 29 01:24:04 <Shadyman> Touchstone == Win
Aug 29 01:24:06 <EricBlade-TouchP> yeah I guess but what if I need USB to transfer someting tomit
Aug 29 01:24:08 <dawm|tp> fx fix the gfx
Aug 29 01:24:10 <Ironsight> or go with square cards
Aug 29 01:24:12 <EricBlade-TouchP> god the spell checker sucks sometkmea
Aug 29 01:24:16 <EricBlade-TouchP> sometimes
Aug 29 01:24:19 <Shadyman> lol
Aug 29 01:24:22 <fxspec06> my cards aren't the issue lol
Aug 29 01:24:26 <dawm|tp> Eric, ftp :p
Aug 29 01:24:31 <fxspec06> it's the game backgrounds i just added. 16 mb folder now
Aug 29 01:24:35 <dawm|tp> fx, you need to redo them
Aug 29 01:24:42 <dawm|tp> I know why the look like poo
Aug 29 01:24:51 <Ironsight> with jpg, you can't tell the difference with 85% than to 100% quality
Aug 29 01:24:57 <dawm|tp> they were raster when the bevel was added
Aug 29 01:25:14 <dawm|tp> so the bevel looks weird
Aug 29 01:25:33 <fxspec06> i need to re-do the card numbers
Aug 29 01:26:02 <fxspec06> the new cardbacks are slick. i re-did like all the ones except the 7 originals
Aug 29 01:26:30 <dawm|tp> oh and when you lose
Aug 29 01:26:34 <dawm|tp> I feel insulted
Aug 29 01:26:45 <fxspec06> really?
Aug 29 01:26:47 <dawm|tp> change loser to you lose
Aug 29 01:26:48 <Ironsight> does it call you a noob?
Aug 29 01:26:56 <dawm|tp> it flashes LOSER
Aug 29 01:26:59 <fxspec06> lol
Aug 29 01:27:02 <fxspec06> okay
Aug 29 01:27:03 * dwc- wonders if there's a patch to tweak the rotate-happiness of the TP
Aug 29 01:27:05 <fxspec06> i will change that
Aug 29 01:27:15 <fxspec06> i really never thought of it that way
Aug 29 01:27:21 <dawm|tp> also
Aug 29 01:27:28 <fxspec06> in the new one the game background you pick sticks in the menus
Aug 29 01:27:33 <dawm|tp> dim the cards when the game is over
Aug 29 01:27:38 <fxspec06> mmk
Aug 29 01:27:43 <dawm|tp> I didn't realize it was done
Aug 29 01:28:02 <dawm|tp> I don't play poker that often :p
Aug 29 01:28:14 <fxspec06> lol k
Aug 29 01:28:20 <dawm|tp> just drop opacity to like 75 or something
Aug 29 01:28:32 <Shadyman> Hmm. Anyone have a .ipkg of the ath6k driver? *evilgrin*
Aug 29 01:28:48 <dawm|tp> if you want I can play it more and continue to give you my suggestions
Aug 29 01:29:26 <dawm|tp> I only played it the one time
Aug 29 01:29:35 <IGNTNUNLMTD> hello webOS friends
Aug 29 01:29:41 <IGNTNUNLMTD> how is everyone?
Aug 29 01:29:53 <dawm|tp> didn't you see twitter? ign?
Aug 29 01:29:57 <IGNTNUNLMTD> nope
Aug 29 01:29:57 <fxspec06> i still got things to do , i changed quite a few things since 1.1.0
Aug 29 01:30:02 <IGNTNUNLMTD> been out of power all day
Aug 29 01:30:05 <dawm|tp> apparently webOS got the axe
Aug 29 01:30:05 <IGNTNUNLMTD> lol
Aug 29 01:30:09 <IGNTNUNLMTD> again?
Aug 29 01:30:19 <Ironsight> wait what?
Aug 29 01:30:20 <NuttyBunny> *yawn*
Aug 29 01:30:20 <dawm|tp> according to the idiots
Aug 29 01:30:22 <Shadyman> Trollface
Aug 29 01:30:23 * NuttyBunny wakes up
Aug 29 01:30:46 <dawm|tp> if its not on WOR or P|C its false
Aug 29 01:30:51 <IGNTNUNLMTD> yep
Aug 29 01:30:58 <Shadyman> It's not on /., so I call BS.
Aug 29 01:31:03 <IGNTNUNLMTD> lol
Aug 29 01:31:06 <dawm|tp> I sent out like 10 replies to idiots
Aug 29 01:31:14 <IGNTNUNLMTD> I don't even give them the time of day
Aug 29 01:31:18 <IGNTNUNLMTD> Twitter scum
Aug 29 01:31:27 <the20yrlaptop> Any way to unzip a file?
Aug 29 01:31:34 <dawm|tp> heh I was bored and added a webOS search panel in spaz
Aug 29 01:31:34 <Ironsight> beats another stupid crap I've heard today
Aug 29 01:31:37 <dawm|tp> big mistake
Aug 29 01:31:47 <Shadyman> ^
Aug 29 01:31:54 <Shadyman> right now it's full of trolls and haters
Aug 29 01:32:00 <Shadyman> Give it a month or so to calm down
Aug 29 01:33:04 <NuttyBunny> gonna give #trollpad another try
Aug 29 01:33:08 <IGNTNUNLMTD> I'm just hoping so much to wake up to a "HTC Buys webOS, Will Begin Producing 3 Phones and a Tablet Immediately" headline
Aug 29 01:33:14 <IGNTNUNLMTD> one of these days
Aug 29 01:33:27 <NuttyBunny> damn... syngery plugins...
Aug 29 01:33:32 <IGNTNUNLMTD> lol
Aug 29 01:34:00 <Shadyman> IGNTNUNLMTD: it'd be "Licenses", but ditto.
Aug 29 01:34:08 <NuttyBunny> <Mgamerz-TP> does anyone know of any syngery plugins that are worth having?
Aug 29 01:34:17 <IGNTNUNLMTD> No, after what HP did, they have no right to own webOS anymore
Aug 29 01:34:22 <Hendikins> Who knows, for enough dollars it could be buys...
Aug 29 01:34:31 <IGNTNUNLMTD> I hope HTC buys webOS and everyone's support who worked on it from Palm
Aug 29 01:34:55 <IGNTNUNLMTD> and HP is stuck making sub-par server software and overpriced ink until the end of time
Aug 29 01:35:04 <dawm|tp> ign, no right, but legally they own it and all palms patents
Aug 29 01:35:11 <IGNTNUNLMTD> I know
Aug 29 01:35:16 <dawm|tp> they would be even more stupid to sell
Aug 29 01:35:26 <Shadyman> gotta sell high, not low
Aug 29 01:35:33 <IGNTNUNLMTD> they've already proved their endless stupidity
Aug 29 01:38:24 <dawm|tp> wow... spaz has the ugliest emoticons I've ever seen
Aug 29 01:39:20 <Shadyman> hehe
Aug 29 01:39:29 <dawm|tp> they look sickly
Aug 29 01:40:59 <IGNTNUNLMTD> alright, minecraft time
Aug 29 01:40:59 <Shadyman> Do we know what driver teh TP uses for wifi?
Aug 29 01:41:02 <IGNTNUNLMTD> Adios comrades
Aug 29 01:41:37 <dawm|tp> anyone else following connor?
Aug 29 01:41:49 <dawm|tp> I swear he tweets like a girl
Aug 29 01:42:40 <dawm|tp> kense!
Aug 29 01:43:04 <kesne> What
Aug 29 01:43:05 <kesne> Do you
Aug 29 01:43:06 <kesne> want
Aug 29 01:43:11 <dawm|tp> idk
Aug 29 01:43:25 <kesne> <3
Aug 29 01:43:40 <Shadyman> wtf busybox. "/bin/sh: man: not found
Aug 29 01:43:42 <dawm|tp> wtf is ihotel
Aug 29 01:43:59 <dawm|tp> apple hotel chain?
Aug 29 01:44:10 <kesne> dawm|tp: stalker
Aug 29 01:44:25 <dawm|tp> dude you had it on fb..
Aug 29 01:44:41 <dawm|tp> don't publish if you don't want it seen
Aug 29 01:45:08 <Shadyman> ^
Aug 29 01:45:09 <kesne> dawm|tp: It's a hotel in illinois
Aug 29 01:45:23 <dwc-> that's not busybox's fault
Aug 29 01:45:41 <dawm|tp> lol
Aug 29 01:45:52 <Shadyman> was too busy to give me man pages :p
Aug 29 01:46:18 <Shadyshman> dawm|tp: I'm visiting UIUC
Aug 29 01:46:40 <dawm|tp> ok, thanks for sharing?
Aug 29 01:46:54 <Shadyshman> dawm|tp: <3
Aug 29 01:47:19 <dawm|tp> oh your Jordan aren't you
Aug 29 01:47:25 <dawm|tp> sneaky sneaky
Aug 29 01:48:07 <dawm|tp> need a TiVo spp
Aug 29 01:48:09 <dawm|tp> app
Aug 29 01:48:22 <dawm|tp> wow TiVo is in the autocorrect
Aug 29 01:48:39 <dawm|tp> is that a sign?
Aug 29 01:49:01 <dawm|tp> netflix is not
Aug 29 01:49:15 <dawm|tp> infact netflix = nervous
Aug 29 01:50:20 * Ironsight looks at busybox.net to see what all the hub bub is about
Aug 29 01:50:22 <dawm|tp> anyone else's tp randomly syncing accts ?
Aug 29 01:50:38 <Ironsight> so busybox is a distro for embedded?
Aug 29 01:50:55 <dawm|tp> been doing it all day, but it never states what account its syncing
Aug 29 01:51:30 <Ironsight> if gmail has been acting flakey today if you have that enabled
Aug 29 01:51:42 <Ironsight> -if
Aug 29 01:54:29 <dawm|tp> nah my gmail is fine, all my 8 email accts are gmail/google
Aug 29 01:55:30 <kesne> dawm|tp: FOOLED YOU!
Aug 29 01:55:34 <dawm|tp> lol
Aug 29 01:56:05 <kesne> hehehehehe
Aug 29 01:58:54 <dawm|tp> the vma's stole my gf
Aug 29 01:59:06 <dawm|tp> damn you mtv..
Aug 29 01:59:17 <dawm|tp> you don't even play musicn
Aug 29 01:59:20 <dawm|tp>  videos
Aug 29 01:59:32 <dawm|tp> you're like an ESPN without sports
Aug 29 01:59:47 <smw> Anyone know of a good app (tablet optimized is better) for reading pdfs where you can save your place?
Aug 29 02:00:41 <dawm|tp> smw, all I can say is idk, not yet ?
Aug 29 02:00:54 <dawm|tp> adobe reader doesn't save location?
Aug 29 02:01:13 <smw> dawm|tp, nope, it is becoming a real pain trying to read complete books ;-)
Aug 29 02:02:08 <Ironsight> Vevo is the new MTV/VH1
Aug 29 02:02:41 <Ironsight> mtv they need to rename to "RTV" for all of their """"Reality""" tv
Aug 29 02:03:55 <Bmyers> mtv = maternity television
Aug 29 02:04:02 <dawm|tp> smw, maybe a patch can be made to do that
Aug 29 02:04:14 <dawm|tp> store current page in a cookie
Aug 29 02:04:23 <dawm|tp> along with the doc name
Aug 29 02:04:23 <Bmyers> it's so cool these days to be preggers and 16
Aug 29 02:05:12 <dawm|tp> I'd ask in #webos-internals if someone could make a patch for that, or the precentral.net forums
Aug 29 02:05:16 <jtrucks> anyone use a time tracking app on the touchpad they like?
Aug 29 02:06:04 <haeffb> dawm|tp: you can't reorder the bookmarks because enyo doesn't have a reorderable list.
Aug 29 02:06:17 <haeffb> same reason you can't reorder accounts in email
Aug 29 02:06:22 <haeffb> dumb.
Aug 29 02:06:32 <jtrucks> yeah, that's irritating
Aug 29 02:06:47 <oil_pre> someone put a reorderable list control in the forums
Aug 29 02:06:54 * oil_pre remembers seeing it
Aug 29 02:08:51 <haeffb> oil_pre: true. But I haven't tried it.
Aug 29 02:09:06 <oil_pre> me either
Aug 29 02:09:06 <dawm|tp> wow I feel stupid
Aug 29 02:09:11 <haeffb> and it should have ALREADY BEEN IN ENYO!!!!
Aug 29 02:09:19 <dawm|tp> I just found the nick compete in wirc
Aug 29 02:09:28 <haeffb> nick competition?
Aug 29 02:09:39 <dawm|tp> yeh.. tab :p
Aug 29 02:09:40 <oil_pre> they should have at least replicated mojo list
Aug 29 02:09:43 <haeffb> I'm going with Ironsight as the winner
Aug 29 02:09:50 <oil_pre> dawm|tp: yeah haha
Aug 29 02:09:59 <haeffb> or perhaps NuttyBunny
Aug 29 02:10:04 <Ironsight> :)
Aug 29 02:10:06 <haeffb> that's a pretty cool nick
Aug 29 02:10:07 <dawm|tp> winner?
Aug 29 02:10:19 <NuttyBunny> who dares to make my icon jump?
Aug 29 02:10:20 <haeffb> <dawm|tp> I just found the nick compete in wirc
Aug 29 02:10:38 <dawm|tp> ooh lol
Aug 29 02:10:40 <haeffb> NuttyBunny: your touchpad is in EarthCity, MO
Aug 29 02:10:50 <haeffb> just a short truck ride away
Aug 29 02:10:58 <dawm|tp> wow..
Aug 29 02:10:59 <oil_pre> yeah,forgot the l
Aug 29 02:11:05 <NuttyBunny> haeffb: Great!!! :D  btw, did you get my email?
Aug 29 02:11:20 <dawm|tp> I hit n then tab and it gave me javispedro
Aug 29 02:11:28 <dawm|tp> NuttyBunny: helo
Aug 29 02:11:30 <haeffb> the photo one?
Aug 29 02:11:45 <Ironsight> So do I win?
Aug 29 02:12:06 <haeffb> It's a sudden-death showdown between Ironsight and NuttyBunny
Aug 29 02:12:09 <dawm|tp> Ironsight: no
Aug 29 02:12:13 <Ironsight> lol
Aug 29 02:12:41 <dawm|tp> oh I see.. sometimes it tries to autocorrect
Aug 29 02:12:49 <dawm|tp> Foresight:
Aug 29 02:12:51 <dawm|tp> lol
Aug 29 02:13:05 <Ironsight> at least it wasn't foreskin
Aug 29 02:13:22 <NuttyBunny> dawm|tp, hey
Aug 29 02:13:23 <dawm|tp> that doesn't match your nick
Aug 29 02:13:31 <Ironsight> thankfully
Aug 29 02:13:35 <dawm|tp> ironsides sure
Aug 29 02:13:39 <NuttyBunny> haeffb, yep, the photo one, I'll send you later the one with photo capture :D
Aug 29 02:14:08 <NuttyBunny> I fixed all jumpyness that existed in previous versions. everything :D
Aug 29 02:14:13 <haeffb> send me one with a shipping address....
Aug 29 02:16:24 <dawm|tp> hrm.. appears I need to reboot the pre2.. not getting my texts it seems
Aug 29 02:17:41 <haeffb> dawm|tp: that happens to me on occasion :(
Aug 29 02:18:31 <dawm|tp> yeh, I txt myself off and on (googlevoicd) and if no incoming I know I'm fucked
Aug 29 02:18:52 <dawm|tp> good
Aug 29 02:19:01 <dawm|tp> err not good
Aug 29 02:19:35 * haeffb off to watch Dumb and Dumber on amazon Prime
Aug 29 02:26:04 <dawm|tp> fb app uodated
Aug 29 02:26:11 <dawm|tp> updated for 2.x
Aug 29 02:26:26 <dawm|tp> exhibition is back woot
Aug 29 02:34:25 * Ironsight puts on a show
Aug 29 02:35:28 <dawm|tp> tp is glitching .. hmm
Aug 29 02:40:08 <Shadyman> Is there a special dashboard Kind for music apps? or are those just custom?
Aug 29 02:41:19 * Ironsight imagines taking an hp touchpad back in time to himself when he was using a zenith XT computer, so when he gets back here, there will be 4 million apps for webos
Aug 29 02:41:57 <plov> why do people use the HD phrase for apps? just means tablet-compatible im guessing?
Aug 29 02:42:02 <Ironsight> I had nothing better to do back then to do than learn qbasic
Aug 29 02:42:22 <Ironsight> HD sells
Aug 29 02:42:58 <haeffb> Ironsight: unfortunately, javascript, html and css hadn't been invented then. You wouldn't know how to write apps for it anyhow.
Aug 29 02:43:05 <Ironsight> One guy names his app Dead Bunnies, next guy names his app Dead Bunnies HD!!!
Aug 29 02:43:23 <Ironsight> haeffb, I would load it with ebooks on the subject
Aug 29 02:43:37 <haeffb> ooohh...planning ahead. I like it.
Aug 29 02:43:39 <Ironsight> that's how I learned qbasic (except they were real books)
Aug 29 02:44:08 <Bmyers> if he's travelling back in time, is he really planning ahead?
Aug 29 02:44:19 <haeffb> planning behind?
Aug 29 02:44:25 <Ironsight> I also would give myself around 10,000 to invest in microsoft stock
Aug 29 02:44:31 * haeffb not down with all the time-travel lingo
Aug 29 02:45:05 <Bmyers> maybe if you were watching something else other than dumb and dumber
Aug 29 02:45:05 <haeffb> Ironsight: if you go, I'll give you another $1000 to invest for me.
Aug 29 02:45:12 <Ironsight> :)
Aug 29 02:45:13 <dwc-> you should then sell that msft stock and trade it for aapl, nflx, etc at the appropriate times
Aug 29 02:45:17 <dwc-> and goog
Aug 29 02:45:22 <Ironsight> goog for sure
Aug 29 02:45:22 <Ironsight> :D
Aug 29 02:45:33 * haeffb used to own some nflx
Aug 29 02:45:39 <dwc-> msft stock has been fairly flat, price wise, but pays out dividends
Aug 29 02:45:47 <haeffb> sold it before it quadrupled in price
Aug 29 02:45:59 <Bmyers> good thinking, avoid the rush..
Aug 29 02:46:01 <Ironsight> back in 1985, microsoft stock was pretty cheap
Aug 29 02:46:04 <haeffb> <-- market timer
Aug 29 02:46:36 <dwc-> did you just buy a bunch of HP stock too?
Aug 29 02:46:55 * haeffb sold it when it looked like their business model wouldn't withstand the upcoming "streaming video" services
Aug 29 02:47:27 <haeffb> dwc-: I was all in on this webOS thing. I was sure it was going to be huge!
Aug 29 02:47:46 <wrea> Thats what she said
Aug 29 02:48:15 <Ironsight> she was ugly anyway
Aug 29 02:48:22 <Bmyers> gonna ask haeffb about my future stocks dealings..
Aug 29 02:48:30 <Bmyers> and do the opposite of what he says..
Aug 29 02:48:44 <haeffb> now THAT is a solid plan.
Aug 29 02:49:45 <haeffb> ok, off to D&D again
Aug 29 02:49:49 <haeffb> later
Aug 29 02:49:59 <Bmyers> l8r
Aug 29 02:50:15 <dwc-> ok, so since he's playing D&D...
Aug 29 02:50:20 <dwc-> we should all make sure we never play that
Aug 29 02:50:25 <Ironsight> done
Aug 29 02:50:30 <dwc-> same
Aug 29 02:50:41 <Ironsight> I did once, was sooo creeped out that I never touched it again
Aug 29 02:51:27 <Ironsight> We have a guy that plays it that I work with. 40 year old virgin..
Aug 29 02:51:57 <Bmyers> human resources?
Aug 29 02:52:25 <Ironsight> Plays nothing but magic cards, DnD and Vampire. No internet, lives in mom/dad's house. Spends all his paycheck on magic cards... No GF/Wife/etc...
Aug 29 02:52:49 <Ironsight> Security Guard
Aug 29 02:52:54 <Bmyers> really. wow, am i surprised
Aug 29 02:53:20 <Ironsight> And he was a Marine Corporal
Aug 29 02:53:52 <Bmyers> o. k.
Aug 29 02:53:56 * Ironsight was in the Army, and we played Spades/Poker/Xbox
Aug 29 02:54:09 <Shadyman> in joke at FARK.com would be to say "I wonder what his FARK handle is"
Aug 29 02:54:47 <EricBlade> Shadyman: Drew
Aug 29 02:58:00 <Shadyman> haha
Aug 29 02:58:40 <Ironsight> lulz @ fark.com (first time reading it)
Aug 29 02:58:46 <Ironsight> Harrisburg man killed when Hurricane Irene drops a tree into his bedroom. Sorry, did I say into his bedroom? I meant on his tent. That he was sleeping in. Outside. During a hurricane
Aug 29 02:59:00 * Ironsight rolls
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