**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Sat Sep 03 02:59:57 2011 Sep 03 03:03:27 EricBlade: that just means your initial launch index.html won't get a card Sep 03 03:03:44 sugardave: yeah i tried that just to see what would happen, and it just blew syntax errors at me Sep 03 03:03:57 so then you use that root "windowless" window as your controller to launch other cards Sep 03 03:04:07 those cards have their own depends.js and index.html files Sep 03 03:17:45 heh. hard work all day on changes. actual commit: 24 lines Sep 03 03:21:51 lol bug in Accounts manager on Pre 2 Sep 03 03:22:49 it won't let you "create" if you paste in your email address instead of actually pressing a key. You have to go back into the email field and type something, then backspace Sep 03 03:31:35 well, that's interesting. so i'm trying to create that windowless app, i've put in absolutely 0 code to make it launch it's own window, and it's just.. doing it. Sep 03 03:31:52 i've gotten so used to bugs i don't even realize they exist any more Sep 03 03:32:03 omg what happened to my K key Sep 03 03:32:05 it's gone Sep 03 03:32:54 gone? Sep 03 03:33:01 .. until i actually put in the noWindow parameter, and then it does nothing but spit errors. dammit. Sep 03 03:34:09 if you have not a noWindow property, it defaults to false, so a window will be created as long as you ahve an index.html and depends.js Sep 03 03:34:40 *or use PalmSystem.stageReady() in the idnex.html Sep 03 03:34:53 got some lysdexia happening it seems Sep 03 03:49:23 ok, so, i'm trying to follow a tutorial i found on how to do this.. and at some point, it stopped updating my app on device when i did a palm-package, palm-install, palm-launch. so, i deleted my app, just to make sure it wasn't there, and now when i run a palm-package, palm-install, nothing seems to be happening Sep 03 03:49:51 it says creating package, installing package, and then palm-launc fails to find the app, and nothing new is added to my device menu Sep 03 03:50:01 might want to delete the .ipk, just to be sure Sep 03 03:50:07 if that doesn't work, reboot the tp Sep 03 03:50:34 i was afraid of that being a possible answer. Sep 03 03:52:43 while i'm waiting, i was playing with the bluetooth to non-palm phones last night. pretty neat, if someone could figure out a way to make it work reliably. Sep 03 03:53:16 it'd be super handy too since my gf's mic on her phone went dead, and we spent her phone-replace-money on a touchpad Sep 03 03:54:00 ok, it's still not showing up in the applist or launching. must be something i've screwed up in some app parameter somewhere Sep 03 03:59:07 is it possible the change the click sound from the virtual keyboard to a vibration? Sep 03 03:59:25 Mojo.Controller.AppController.playSoundNotification(soundClass, soundFile, duration) Sep 03 03:59:25 Immediately play a notification sound. Note that soundClass should be set to "notifications". If you need the device to vibrate, set soundClass to "vibrate". Sep 03 03:59:25 Parameters Sep 03 03:59:25 {String} soundClass - class of the sound Sep 03 03:59:25 {String} soundFile - partial or full path to the sound file Sep 03 03:59:28 {String} duration - duration of sound in ms Sep 03 03:59:34 ok, if i remove the noWindow, then bam Sep 03 04:00:58 derp derp, case of "noWindow" has to be in quotes Sep 03 04:01:15 EricBlade: always do a fresh install before releasing an app.. Sep 03 04:01:51 also, yes strings do need to be in quotes Sep 03 04:02:01 booleans and INT's, not so much. strings yes Sep 03 04:03:06 can you have an {icon: that has a size other than 32x32 ? Sep 03 04:03:56 rwhitby: i mount them to /media/internal/folder and kalemsoft can see /media/internal/folder, but inside folder/ it's empty inside kalemsoft for some reason Sep 03 04:04:06 i thought i was setting a property not a string. oh well. nbd Sep 03 04:04:23 lonequid: you need to mount it inside the jail, not outside it Sep 03 04:04:57 how would I go about that? Sep 03 04:04:58 hemna: your icon inside the IPK can be pretty much any size you want it to be. of course, how it looks is another story Sep 03 04:05:16 was trying to fit a 75x32 icon in a slider toolbar Sep 03 04:05:24 but you must submit a 64x64 and 48x48 icon to palm when you submit your app Sep 03 04:05:25 it chops it at 32x32 though Sep 03 04:05:43 on what device? Sep 03 04:05:52 which* Sep 03 04:06:24 TP Sep 03 04:06:47 err SlidingView toolbar to be exact Sep 03 04:07:15 ok, last question about windowless app, i think, at least for now. is there anything i need to do to make sure that the main app gets closed down when you close the app window? Sep 03 04:07:52 cleanup: window.close(); Sep 03 04:08:19 (even though there no window) ; ) Sep 03 04:08:30 (well there is it's just hidden) Sep 03 04:08:41 k bedtime Sep 03 04:09:55 hmm. i'm not getting any logs from the main app.. grr. Sep 03 04:10:03 afraid it might not be working right Sep 03 04:10:52 loglevel: 99, <<< frameworkconfig.json Sep 03 04:11:07 "loglevel"* Sep 03 04:11:10 EricBlade: well, the trick is that when you try to use console.log (and enyo.log, etc.) it won't work unless there is at least one visible window Sep 03 04:11:14 yeah the main window is logging Sep 03 04:11:24 oh, good Sep 03 04:11:47 sometimes I don't get log messages until a possible visible window exists Sep 03 04:12:18 ok, cool, i can log the other side of the app from the main one. so i guess it must be Sep 03 04:14:37 rwhitby: got it, thanks for that tip. funny how i see you pop up in nearly every webOS related thread across the web :P Sep 03 04:17:40 fxspec06_: you doubt me? :P Sep 03 04:19:32 lol Sep 03 04:22:33 * halfhalo yawns Sep 03 04:25:12 * haeffb yawns Sep 03 04:25:32 * akanster yawns Sep 03 04:26:22 * lonequid farts Sep 03 04:26:52 * fxspec06_ shits his pants Sep 03 04:26:55 ok.. hmm.. where can i find a convenient place to call postMessage()/ Sep 03 04:27:55 sorry i had to keep that going. and yes i doubt you, because you have never shown me that you are capable of even the slightest of anything resembling anything that kind of looks like an application that may be useful at some point in the future Sep 03 04:27:57 k gnite Sep 03 04:28:21 fxspec06_: with Inglourious Apps on board, and I'm sure willing to help, it'll get done even faster Sep 03 04:28:34 fxspec06_: I've made some good progress, I almost have local file playback working Sep 03 04:29:33 jaf0: hey Sep 03 04:29:41 yo. Sep 03 04:29:53 get my email(s)? Sep 03 04:30:00 ye(s)? Sep 03 04:30:04 :P Sep 03 04:30:07 that's great! i can write a script that plays local files in about 2 secs Sep 03 04:30:23 well, there was the one. and then there was the comment on the meetup page Sep 03 04:30:33 hey fxspec06_ Sep 03 04:30:43 fxspec06_: I also don't know near as much coding as you Sep 03 04:30:47 is there anything you need to call after .setItem(items) ? Sep 03 04:31:10 if youre publishing extra properties? Sep 03 04:31:42 dude inglorious apps is not going to hold your hand Sep 03 04:31:54 jus sayin Sep 03 04:32:32 i'm sure they have many things they need to get done Sep 03 04:33:51 fxspec06_: he offered his help on sliding panes, which is the main hold up right now Sep 03 04:34:16 are any of the music players able to do hw accelerated ogg? Sep 03 04:34:45 win7: audiophile hd pro Sep 03 04:35:02 PatrickC_TP: you should learn how to use the api Sep 03 04:35:16 instead of asking people for help Sep 03 04:35:17 Hmm need to set up znc to come here so I'm not here with two different nicks :D Sep 03 04:35:20 I just barely missed the giveaway on that :( is the free version fine? I might get the pro for the equalizer (is that software or hardware?) Sep 03 04:35:34 fxspec06_: I have it almost working, but whenever it pushes the scene to the second pane, it screws up Sep 03 04:35:36 and idk why Sep 03 04:35:36 free version will play back all files too Sep 03 04:36:03 idk the differences, dude who made it is sleepn rite now Sep 03 04:36:06 jerk Sep 03 04:36:09 free version isn't reading my ID3 tags for some reason :| Sep 03 04:36:10 k relly goin 2 bed now Sep 03 04:36:12 nite Sep 03 04:36:19 night Sep 03 04:36:27 bye, thanks :) Sep 03 04:39:13 ok, i think? i'm posting messages successfully now.. calling mainApp.window.PostMessage() .. but i don't seem to be receiving them anywhere Sep 03 04:39:20 i added a window.AddEventListener() Sep 03 04:40:55 patrick Sep 03 04:41:04 yeah? Sep 03 05:04:31 http://www.bgr.com/2011/09/02/microsoft-windows-phone-will-be-no-2-smartphone-os-by-2015/ Sep 03 05:12:45 gallatin? Sep 03 05:12:51 isn't that north of nahs? Sep 03 05:12:54 oops Sep 03 05:18:31 lol Sep 03 05:41:25 * PatrickC_TP has 2 keyboards sitting in front of him. 1 for touchpad, other for computer. Sep 03 05:41:43 for some reason, when I type on the touchpad's keyboard, my computer doesn't notice I'm typing... Sep 03 05:43:43 PatrickC_TP: Can't imagine why. Sep 03 05:43:48 Hurrr Sep 03 05:43:56 :) Sep 03 05:44:00 ;) Sep 03 05:44:03 YES! webOS, I will defeat all your silly limitations! Sep 03 05:44:14 EricBlade: lol Sep 03 05:44:42 Shadyman: I actually got mad at my computer one time because of it haha Sep 03 05:44:47 the app review guys might look at this and go "wtf is he thinking?" Sep 03 05:45:07 and then one time, I was trying to type on the touchpad keyboard, and typed on the computers, and screwed up my code lol Sep 03 05:45:21 EricBlade: they say that about us all :P Sep 03 05:45:29 except cwayne Sep 03 05:45:31 HAHAHAHA OH WOW Sep 03 05:45:35 whatsup Sep 03 05:45:42 nm Sep 03 05:45:53 cwayne: what's so funny? :) Sep 03 05:46:15 PatrickC_TP: lol nothin Sep 03 05:46:19 so, can i get one person who does a lot of google voice texting, who wants to alpha ? Sep 03 05:46:21 just bein weird Sep 03 05:46:21 haha Sep 03 05:46:46 EricBlade: I'll start doing google voice texting, once I can do it easily from my touchpad with notifications :) Sep 03 05:47:29 i have absolutely no idea what will happen if you actually use it for voice calls and stuff, i don't have any of that crap in my inbox Sep 03 05:47:41 man, dudes at my work sure loved the ubuntu chroot on tp Sep 03 05:48:03 EricBlade: 1 step at a time :) Sep 03 05:48:29 I'll be the alpha tester if you want, I've been wanting to use google voice for a while, but w/o notifications, it seems useless for me Sep 03 05:51:25 ok.. so.. i assume i can just send you the ipk, and if you're in dev mode, you can install it? Sep 03 05:51:49 is there any way to lock the ipk to specific devices, like ios dev? Sep 03 05:53:22 and.. is there a generic alert sound installed on device, that i can point it to use? Sep 03 05:53:26 right now the alerts have no sound Sep 03 06:04:31 yeah, just send me the IPK Sep 03 06:04:39 and what do you mean by lock it to the device? Sep 03 06:04:51 and I think there is a generic alert sound. but idk how to access it Sep 03 06:07:10 ios packages can only be run on devices authorized by the developer Sep 03 06:13:45 Okay Sep 03 06:13:47 Question time Sep 03 06:14:11 Can I set the SRC of an enyo image kind to data from a canvas? Sep 03 06:19:18 EricBlade: ah Sep 03 06:19:36 hmm. i guess i can just find a wav file or something Sep 03 06:19:56 Dangit Sep 03 06:20:01 This isn't working Sep 03 06:24:42 Okay, so, who feels like helping me Sep 03 06:28:31 Come on people Sep 03 06:29:35 i really don't know of any direct way to do that Sep 03 06:33:08 I have the image data from the canvas Sep 03 06:33:09 That I can do Sep 03 06:33:20 It's the problem of getting it into an enyo image kind Sep 03 06:33:29 I'd hate to not have pinch-to-zoom. Sep 03 06:42:57 ok, that's bukkit (minecraft) plugins coded... now to work on webos Sep 03 06:47:22 oh yay! our touchstones and stuff should be here by.. uh.. wednesday. Sep 03 06:47:59 alright. got my app ported to the TP. man I love Enyo development. beats the hell out of mojo Sep 03 06:55:27 Like a boss Sep 03 06:57:01 might be getting close to getting kismet compiled and packaged to test with Sep 03 06:57:39 kismet? Sep 03 06:59:42 http://www.kismetwireless.net/ Sep 03 07:00:39 ah coolio Sep 03 07:01:19 If it ends up working with the tp's atheros driver i might end up writing a gui for it Sep 03 07:02:10 <|Jason8|> woah Sep 03 07:02:10 <|Jason8|> kismet for touchpad Sep 03 07:02:11 <|Jason8|> would be ridic Sep 03 07:04:05 You know what is ridic? Pure JS image filters. Sep 03 07:10:36 wrea: has anyone got monitor mode working on the touchpad yet? Sep 03 07:11:25 last I heard the driver did not support it and no-one knew of a better driver Sep 03 07:11:46 hmm Sep 03 07:17:38 I'd like adhoc support myself ;) Sep 03 07:19:43 Same Sep 03 07:25:32 wow Sep 03 07:25:48 a lot of progress made tonight all thanks to the help of jaf0 :) Sep 03 07:30:53 hotdp: were in my beta program.. weren't you? Sep 03 07:31:17 yes Sep 03 07:34:07 argh.. forgot to send you the latest IPK Sep 03 07:34:10 I'll fwd u Sep 03 07:34:11 sorry Sep 03 07:34:40 there done :) Sep 03 07:34:47 i have not recived anything in some time Sep 03 07:34:49 hotdp: you have some awesomeness waiting in your inbox :) Sep 03 07:35:07 well, development has also been stopped for some time Sep 03 07:35:10 better then tunein? Sep 03 07:35:22 not yet Sep 03 07:35:27 but getting there :) Sep 03 07:35:31 nice Sep 03 07:35:36 yep Sep 03 07:35:40 What i really need Sep 03 07:35:43 tonight was a major UI overaul Sep 03 07:36:03 If a radio app with all the radiostations as tunein and file access to my nass media server Sep 03 07:36:16 i have only seen that in two different apps :) Sep 03 07:37:13 well, I'll just have shotcast/icecast access for now as far as radio stations go Sep 03 07:37:37 tunein has to buy a license to play those radio stations Sep 03 07:37:41 Is the other part on th road map :D Sep 03 07:37:42 I don't have the kind of money to do that Sep 03 07:37:57 well, I've never heard of nass :) Sep 03 07:38:00 so not sure Sep 03 07:38:04 Ampache is Sep 03 07:40:54 hotdp: get the email? Sep 03 07:41:21 yes thanks Sep 03 07:41:36 nass: network attached storage something? Sep 03 07:41:43 network attached storage streaming Sep 03 07:41:44 <-- eating breakfast Sep 03 07:41:46 * jaf0 ponders. Sep 03 07:42:06 hotdp: we can talk about the "nass" thing and maybe put it on the feature list Sep 03 07:42:13 hotdp: I'm going to bed :) Sep 03 07:42:24 Yes Sep 03 07:42:28 Its nothing about NAS Sep 03 07:42:35 Its just streaming media Sep 03 07:42:46 the music is just stored on a server? Sep 03 07:42:51 yes Sep 03 07:43:00 so the file has a hotlink? Sep 03 07:43:06 i can stream music to another tp app or ps3 ect Sep 03 07:43:10 12 sec Sep 03 07:43:24 12sec? Sep 03 07:43:46 http://www.twonky.com/ Sep 03 07:44:09 /quit off to code Sep 03 07:44:25 lol Sep 03 07:46:01 hotdp: hmm.. I'll look into that Sep 03 07:46:04 thanks Sep 03 07:46:12 the more features, the more people I appeal to :) Sep 03 07:46:18 s/i/my app/ Sep 03 07:46:41 well, I'm off to bed all Sep 03 07:46:42 night Sep 03 08:03:57 anyone happen to know if there's a standard method in enyo for up/down controls? like, for a page number, up/down Sep 03 08:11:15 i guess that would be the List Selector.. but man, those are -so- ugly Sep 03 08:13:40 hmm. it really sucks that my app no longer runs in chrome :| Sep 03 08:47:06 HP finally took the Pre off the web store Sep 03 08:49:02 :[ Sep 03 08:49:41 I really wanted to get one for the $50 Sep 03 08:53:05 Wouldnt mind paying a little markup Sep 03 09:21:40 hmm. i have 104 pages of Google Voice conversations. i have 1 page of voicemails. Sep 03 09:31:14 and i accidentally deleted my whole git repo when i made the app multi-window. good thing i didn't seriously break anything :O Sep 03 12:30:33 webos feature request - unlock password/pin bypass while connected to "home ap" Sep 03 12:31:02 cos when I'm at home with it, constant unlocking is annoying... but when I'm traveling or working... I like it locked Sep 03 13:02:43 morn'n Sep 03 13:07:45 morning sir Sep 03 13:08:22 hotdp: \ 0 / Sep 03 13:16:54 hotdp \o/ !!!!! Sep 03 13:17:07 Bmyers !!!! \o/ Sep 03 13:17:30 haeffb: \ 0 / Sep 03 13:18:28 haeffb: likes titanium editor? Sep 03 13:19:07 Freman: good idea. like that a lot. just switched to a 2-character password, but even still... that seems like a reasonable feature Sep 03 13:22:16 Bmyers: yes, if you're used to eclipse, Titanium is an upgrade Sep 03 13:24:52 was checking it out Sep 03 13:26:03 good afternoon Sep 03 13:27:51 Bmyers: playing with Enyo are you? Sep 03 13:28:21 trying, wimped out ran uirivision 2 thing in appinfo Sep 03 13:28:47 that works, but it's not as cool. Sep 03 13:28:57 anyone want a promo code for pondNotes? Sep 03 13:29:10 isnt it already free? Sep 03 13:30:51 not the app cat version Sep 03 13:36:07 too late, offer expired because I'm leaving to get coffee. Sep 03 13:36:20 i'll take one Sep 03 13:51:00 too late, i bought it any.. Sep 03 13:52:53 way Sep 03 15:24:10 fwiw, rasing the price of pondNotes from $0.99 to $2.23 has not affected sales rates. Sep 03 15:24:41 interesting stat Sep 03 15:24:59 whats your avg per day? Sep 03 15:25:42 u can round it off at 1000's per day if thats easier Sep 03 15:26:31 hi all Sep 03 15:26:57 currently about 10 Sep 03 15:27:08 haeffb: really Sep 03 15:27:27 i raised wildn from .99 to 1.29 and didn't notice any diff Sep 03 15:27:59 not 10,000 Sep 03 15:39:34 ive yet to see an app incorporate adsense ? Sep 03 15:45:43 absence on enyo? Sep 03 15:45:55 adsense on enyo? Sep 03 15:49:13 Anyone know of someone selling Pre 2's/Veer's? Sep 03 15:51:53 hey wrea how about ebay? Sep 03 16:10:58 hi Sep 03 16:32:11 so uh Sep 03 16:32:30 anyone have any experience with google authentication? Sep 03 16:32:56 what authentication method did you end up using? Sep 03 16:35:00 wrea_: sorry, all my pre2s are spoken for Sep 03 16:35:22 didn't know anyone else wanted a veer or I could have picked up more yesterday Sep 03 16:35:38 how much would you have gotten them for? Sep 03 16:35:44 $55 Sep 03 16:35:49 nice Sep 03 16:36:08 where at? Sep 03 16:36:24 campus store at the sunnyvale palm campus Sep 03 16:36:33 sold out now? Sep 03 16:37:10 If I still lived in the bay area I would have been there lol Sep 03 16:37:34 plov: I don't know. when I was there a week ago monday, they said the store woudl be closed in 2 weeks Sep 03 16:37:44 as of yesterday, they had veers and pixis Sep 03 16:37:56 i'd be interested if you were to go that way again Sep 03 16:38:12 and um, centros Sep 03 16:38:14 I think Sep 03 16:38:33 yeah, centros. Someone posted a pic of the whiteboard sign Sep 03 16:38:37 would want a pre2 more though Sep 03 16:38:43 29 for them i think Sep 03 16:39:07 hey, that's more organized than the first week Sep 03 16:39:11 do they ship? if i called them up? Sep 03 16:39:17 they do not ship Sep 03 16:39:25 hm, someone on fatwallet posted that they'd be open again on tuesday Sep 03 16:39:53 they must still be doing good business with veers Sep 03 16:40:04 i thought they were all sold out everywhere Sep 03 16:40:09 ... but they also write that they got the last vzw pre2 Sep 03 16:40:25 which wasn't on the sign friday morning Sep 03 16:40:38 or earlier in the week even, when they said they were out of all pre2s Sep 03 16:42:57 so, you think you'd stop by there again? Sep 03 16:43:35 dunno, I normally don't drive to work :p Sep 03 16:44:00 hmm? you work at palm? or just in that area Sep 03 16:44:08 ~2 mi away Sep 03 16:44:31 well Sep 03 16:44:40 definitely get one for me if you do stop by :P Sep 03 16:47:00 if enough people want one and are willing to pay for shipping, I don't mind making another trip Sep 03 16:47:34 i'll pay for my own shipping yea, and sure get enough people to chip in an extra 5$ or so to cover gas and a lunch out there :P Sep 03 16:48:32 is the veer compatible with t-mobiles network? Sep 03 16:49:15 apparently it is Sep 03 16:49:28 btw, I know ericblade was doing some google auth stuff... I think he used the clientlogin stuff Sep 03 16:49:42 the veer is compatible with t-mobile 2g Sep 03 16:49:45 clientlogin does seem the most simplest Sep 03 16:49:50 but is also carrier locked Sep 03 16:49:59 oh they aren't sold unlock? Sep 03 16:50:15 I think they were the first week! ... but then they ran out of unlock codes, I guess Sep 03 16:50:37 does anyone has experience with hybrid apps? Sep 03 16:51:31 http://tctechcrunch2011.files.wordpress.com/2011/09/take3.jpg Sep 03 16:51:36 plov: well, find some more people and I'll make the trip... wrea ... maybe others? Sep 03 16:51:45 the plugin seems to run, when i tail /var/log/messages - but inside the enyo app theres just a grey square. Sep 03 16:51:56 ok, any body really? Sep 03 16:52:08 or you want to only find people who are developers, etc. ? Sep 03 16:52:50 i'm sure if i post on precentral you'll get a swarm of people Sep 03 16:52:53 preferably developers, but it's not like *I've* developed an app Sep 03 16:54:13 there's a few people on here who mentioned wanting pre2s Sep 03 16:54:20 maybe they'd be interested in veer's Sep 03 17:00:56 dwc-: is 55$ covering taxes and all that? Sep 03 17:04:52 $55 was tax-inclusive, yes Sep 03 17:05:16 but no, I'm not looking to have a flood of people... no posting on slickdeals or whatever Sep 03 17:05:40 rofl, thatd be hilarious Sep 03 17:05:49 yea, i'll post on precentral and sort them out, i know what you mean, you aren't trying to help people turn around and resale them Sep 03 17:05:52 resell* Sep 03 17:06:24 how many interested people should i find / how many do you think will be available? Sep 03 17:06:44 the sign friday said they had lots, no limits on them Sep 03 17:07:01 pre2's are sold out yea? :S Sep 03 17:07:13 55 no contract????? Sep 03 17:07:17 also, I honestly want to keep the number fairly low to minimize the number of problems Sep 03 17:07:31 with non-payers, etc Sep 03 17:07:46 dwc-: i'll have everyone give you a deposit? Sep 03 17:07:48 ... and so that I'm not spending all day in the post office mailing boxes.... Sep 03 17:08:17 online postage! :p just drop them off Sep 03 17:08:20 oh this is a private deal ;-) Sep 03 17:08:49 Tptg: no it's open to whomever as long as you aren't just wanting it to kick around / resell it Sep 03 17:09:20 I would say 5-7 might be a reasonable upper limit Sep 03 17:09:39 wrea_: you want one? Sep 03 17:09:50 Yeah, put me down for one Sep 03 17:09:54 and yes, I would say they are sold out of pre2s Sep 03 17:10:03 dwc-: surprised the store doesn't have huge lines / people fighting over them? Sep 03 17:10:19 huge lines they did have Sep 03 17:10:28 for the touchpads, and the first few days for phones Sep 03 17:10:44 HP took the Pre2 off the webstone around 2am this morning Sep 03 17:10:57 webstore* Sep 03 17:11:10 they seriously still have new pixi and centros? Sep 03 17:11:15 interesting Sep 03 17:11:30 last last friday, they were out of unlocked pre2, the guy said they shipped the rest to LA Sep 03 17:11:44 I thought maybe they were going to go to a distribution center for sale on the store Sep 03 17:11:46 The Veer is still oos, but still listed Sep 03 17:11:47 guess not Sep 03 17:12:04 wasn't the pre2 oos on the webstore for awhile? Sep 03 17:12:10 yes Sep 03 17:12:19 It was until 2am Sep 03 17:12:24 since... the friday evening of the day of the announcement Sep 03 17:12:28 can this phone be ordered onoine? Sep 03 17:12:37 online? Sep 03 17:12:40 no Sep 03 17:12:46 unless they want to pay 110~ Sep 03 17:12:50 I was wanting a pre3, but at this point the veer will do Sep 03 17:12:58 I am wanting a pre3 Sep 03 17:13:08 wrea_: so you in on this? Sep 03 17:13:13 so me and you, 2 so far? Sep 03 17:13:18 Yeah Sep 03 17:13:34 anyhow... lunch, football game. bbl. msg me and I'll get back to you Sep 03 17:30:37 hi guys :) Sep 03 17:33:37 hi EricBlade Sep 03 17:36:52 EricBlade: were you messing around with google auth api? Sep 03 17:37:37 plov: i used ClientLogin Sep 03 17:37:55 the token appears to not have an expiration? Sep 03 17:39:37 plov: i don't believe so, i think they expire arbitrarily according to whatever parameters google may decide on Sep 03 17:40:39 EricBlade: so was it the user agent? Sep 03 17:40:42 if you want to see one expire, accidentally infinite loop your login code, and let it run for 10-15 seconds, you'll get a different key and a Captcha request, real quick :) Sep 03 17:41:31 no i'm just trying to figure, i'll just save the auth token and be done with it and so i imagine i don't ever need to show a login screen to the user Sep 03 17:41:43 ever again until the they changed their password (token fails) Sep 03 17:41:48 rwatkins: i haven't checked to see what the webOS app user agent is yet, to try and spoof it in another language (i guess i could just install curl and try it that way..? ) that's on my "todo" list for the weekend Sep 03 17:42:47 plov: hmm. that might be an idea. just make sure you provide a way for the user to logout, in case someone else is using the device. Sep 03 17:43:42 rwatkins: what i did end up doing, at least for the moment, is having the user login from a WebView, then hiding it, and using a seperate 1px x 1px webview to transmit the requests that don't need a reply back Sep 03 17:44:00 hack hack hack Sep 03 17:44:50 agree, but completely re-writing the guts of the app in another system that i'm completely unfamiliar with, was not high on my list, considering i'm nearly feature complete Sep 03 17:45:10 rwatkins tips on writing a background service to disable pin/password for unlock when connected to "home" ap? Sep 03 17:46:46 Freman: uh, write an app that sets an alarm to wake itself up every 5 min, then makes the call to change the pref? assume that has to be homebrew only Sep 03 17:48:14 copy code out of existin pref app, and add gps lookup Sep 03 17:48:20 * Freman wonders who he has to sleep with to make that an actual feature :D Sep 03 17:48:45 rwatkins: if i could figure out a way to auto-input into the browser window (i know there's "insertString.." but it doesn't work unless you have an input control already focused)i could at least make that process transparent to the user Sep 03 17:48:51 tried modeswitcher yet? Sep 03 17:49:22 me? Sep 03 17:49:38 Frehman:yeah! Sep 03 17:49:45 never heared of it Sep 03 17:49:57 will look tomorrow (is actually 3:45 am here lol) Sep 03 17:50:13 go for it... it is capable of this... and much more Sep 03 17:52:45 todo list until i believe my program is feature complete: contacts view, compose message pop-up window, make "reply" use a pop-up window instead of dynamically changing content inside the main frame, figure out a way to make contact-images work or remove the feature Sep 03 17:52:58 whats your app? Sep 03 17:53:03 if you dont mind saying here Sep 03 17:53:04 google voice Sep 03 17:53:04 i assume you've trolled thru the Voogle code? Sep 03 17:53:15 https://github.com/connorlacombe/Voogle-for-HP-webOS Sep 03 17:53:26 rwatkins: yeah, Voogle does most of it's communications thru a third party server Sep 03 17:53:44 i can't believe that's allowed. Sep 03 17:53:53 is this a new app or is this for the one google voice app already in catalog? Sep 03 17:54:02 new app Sep 03 17:54:25 sure, but then i assume you could re-implement what it does on the server side there in node locally Sep 03 17:54:55 that's assuming that whatever problem google apparently has with webos apps doesn't also apply to our ver of node Sep 03 17:55:44 as long its not opening a socket back to the ip, you're pretty much good to go with writing any kinda connection out from node Sep 03 17:56:16 and getting started in node seemed quite a bit more difficult than getting started on an enyo app was Sep 03 17:56:26 indeed Sep 03 17:56:54 just saying -- may be a better long term solution than hidden web views :) Sep 03 17:57:20 oh, absoutely. that will be a key component towards future improvements Sep 03 17:58:54 if there were a good "how to" for a basic node service that covered 3.0, as well as explaining what each part of it did, i might've spent yesterday figuring that out, instead of figuring out a hack around it .. but the existing tutorial just left me confused. Sep 03 18:04:29 node is essentially the same between 2.x and 3.x Sep 03 18:04:40 also, if my understanding of the docs is correct, it should be easily possible to actually integrate to Synergy, if the backend is done via a node server ? Sep 03 18:05:00 hi all Sep 03 18:05:12 oh crap i have to login to work.. going to be late oops Sep 03 18:05:26 hey has anyone had issues using devicetool for veer? Sep 03 18:33:09 rwhitby: ping Sep 03 18:58:43 Someone mind generating a bootchart for me? Sep 03 18:58:55 dpivs: why would you use devicetool for veer? Sep 03 18:59:04 nm he's gone Sep 03 19:07:02 i'm trying to use impostah to change my US touchpad to CA touchpad. Sep 03 19:07:21 is this a simple change setting, change setting, with no loss of data. or? Sep 03 19:12:35 zefyx: does that work? I thought first activation was what created the device record and then it couldn't be changed Sep 03 19:15:10 im going to try it Sep 03 19:41:59 * halfhalo is in apple store Sep 03 19:42:23 _trying_ to buy a laptop Sep 03 19:43:46 it is not going well Sep 03 19:44:12 Why? Sep 03 19:44:32 lotsa unneeded issued Sep 03 19:44:34 issues Sep 03 19:45:11 huh? Sep 03 19:45:32 they must know you worked at hp Sep 03 19:53:58 anyone else having amazon instant video failing? Sep 03 19:54:21 haeffb: ping Sep 03 20:05:46 tib Sep 03 20:05:48 someone just reviewed clearview. "Quite useless if you have more cards on the screen as this app doesn't render all cards clear. For a paid app I was expecting more than this. I could achieve the same result just by pressing the power button twice to see the wallpaper." Sep 03 20:05:49 fib Sep 03 20:06:14 Tibfib: Sep 03 20:06:24 haeffb: hai Sep 03 20:06:36 anyone else having amazon instant video failing? Sep 03 20:07:26 what's that Sep 03 20:07:30 hi Tibfib, haeffb Sep 03 20:07:58 no, it looks like it's working Sep 03 20:08:05 :( Sep 03 20:08:13 I did have a problem with a patch installed. Sep 03 20:08:13 I wonder if my touchpad got throttled or something Sep 03 20:08:13 woooooooooo Sep 03 20:08:22 haeffb: ooh what patch? Sep 03 20:08:24 maybe the hulu patch? Sep 03 20:08:28 I had that installed Sep 03 20:08:31 but I removed that Sep 03 20:08:36 reboot? Sep 03 20:08:39 yep Sep 03 20:08:44 it stopped working yesterday Sep 03 20:08:45 shiny new air Sep 03 20:08:49 there was another that I uninstalled as well Sep 03 20:08:51 been restarted a couple times Sep 03 20:08:58 remember the one? Sep 03 20:09:01 maybe the maxblocker? Sep 03 20:09:12 dang haven't installed that one Sep 03 20:09:29 just a second. Sep 03 20:09:47 the only browser patch I have is add to paper mache Sep 03 20:09:58 and the logging muffler Sep 03 20:10:01 stuff Sep 03 20:10:04 I currently have advanced reset options, muffle system logging and unthrottle dl manager Sep 03 20:10:11 and it's working for me Sep 03 20:10:27 that's pretty much what I have Sep 03 20:10:41 I did recently install reduce min brightness Sep 03 20:10:45 that couldn't have impacted it Sep 03 20:10:46 but it stopped working when I had those other two installed as well Sep 03 20:11:47 no dice Sep 03 20:12:01 the touchpad just stays on the loading thing whenever I try and start a video Sep 03 20:13:06 "you're holding it wrong" ? Sep 03 20:13:48 what is the hulu patch? Sep 03 20:13:53 makes hulu work Sep 03 20:14:05 by messing with the flash on device Sep 03 20:14:14 http://www.webos-internals.org/wiki/Hulu_Fix Sep 03 20:14:16 i just know of that Sep 03 20:14:22 theres a patch that does that Sep 03 20:14:28 well technically it is a "linux application" Sep 03 20:14:28 oh i see Sep 03 20:15:52 woooooo about to submit a game called "multitetris" Sep 03 20:16:10 "Featuring retro graphics, cheesy music, and classic gameplay, this is the game you want to buy to get your old school block crunching needs fulfilled." Sep 03 20:17:43 screenshots? Sep 03 20:17:54 IT WORKS Sep 03 20:18:03 haeffb: tried rebooting a couple more times and it worked Sep 03 20:19:03 haeffb: thanks! Sep 03 20:21:03 * haeffb should work in phone support Sep 03 20:21:11 "is it plugged in?" Sep 03 20:21:16 "please reboot" Sep 03 20:23:31 you guys seen todays webos news? Sep 03 20:23:56 what news? Sep 03 20:24:23 http://www.precentral.net/hp-splitting-webos-gbu-two-software-headed-office-strategy-and-technology-exclusive Sep 03 20:25:27 oh yes i saw that Sep 03 20:30:40 http://twitter.com/#!/fxspec06/status/110086134343798784 Sep 03 20:32:43 today i've been hacking on creationix minimason pdk demo from node knockout Sep 03 20:32:57 but wasn't able to run it as plugin inside a enyo app Sep 03 20:33:09 i think, i'll give up on that Sep 03 20:35:33 goal was, to give the lavalamp demo an exhibition mode. would love that Sep 03 20:41:38 hmm. i was really rather hoping that webOS would be going out to wherever the PC division went. Sep 03 20:44:21 pc division is going to the trash can Sep 03 20:44:27 why would you want webos to go with it :o Sep 03 20:46:49 this all might be a plot for hp to still make devices but get them to the public in less then 6months Sep 03 20:47:40 I heard Charlie Sheen was joining the HP board. Sep 03 20:47:41 :O Sep 03 20:49:03 objectconstant: lindsay lohan would be a better CEO than what they have Sep 03 20:49:15 plov: the rumor at the moment is that the PC division will end up being a seperate company, which is where it needs to be after these retards at the top are trying to remake a successful company into something that competes with the business they used to run Sep 03 20:51:00 i kind of love my app. i enjoy loving a program i wrote. Sep 03 20:51:19 Tommy: not true. Linday would steal from the Apple store to see what they were planning. she wouldn't last but two weeks Sep 03 20:51:37 hHAHA Sep 03 20:51:43 geeze Sep 03 20:52:03 fxspec06: lol, other companies already do that Sep 03 20:52:36 fxspec06: app-screenshot or it didn't happen! :) Sep 03 20:53:12 so Sep 03 20:53:15 (from that tetris) Sep 03 20:53:19 doing better than Fiorina? Sep 03 21:00:20 <{DV8}> Мы Sep 03 21:01:48  Sep 03 21:05:04 y'know, i'm not sure there's a worse person than Carly Fiorina .. but it appears that the current leadership of HP combined, has managed to do worse than she did Sep 03 21:05:17 yeah Sep 03 21:05:22 They should hire all of us to be the CEO Sep 03 21:05:29 "None of us is as dumb as all of us" Sep 03 21:05:30 we can split the pay, and still come out ahead Sep 03 21:05:32 yup Sep 03 21:05:34 wait Sep 03 21:05:35 nope Sep 03 21:05:37 looool Sep 03 21:05:38 lol Sep 03 21:13:44 Mr. Apotheker's initial compensation package could be worth about $51.8 million Sep 03 21:13:45 god Sep 03 21:14:04 Mr. Apotheker's $1.2 million base pay and possible $6 million first-year bonus compare with Mr. Hurd's initial salary of $1.4 million and yearly bonus of up to $8.4 million. Sep 03 21:31:47 HP Sep 03 21:31:49 is too Sep 03 21:31:50 big. Sep 03 21:32:31 can't compete half the time with big companies Sep 03 21:33:18 if you have divisions named personal systems group and global business unit and you're splitting the global business unit to "report to" the "office of strategy and technology" Sep 03 21:33:22 your corporation is too goddamn big Sep 03 22:04:52 "torchie: if you have divisions named personal systems group and global business unit and you're splitting the global business unit to "report to" the "office of strategy and technology .. your corporation is too goddamn big" .. you can say that again Sep 03 22:08:28 http://johnvsinternet.wordpress.com/2011/09/03/setting-a-straw-man-argument-on-fire/ Sep 03 22:20:49 loool i just logged into the messenger on my touchpad after several days, and it appears to be downloading skype conversations or something. the entire device is frozen, except for the home button Sep 03 22:23:40 so who here likes the name 'Jiggy Blocks' Sep 03 22:24:28 Will Smith Sep 03 22:25:46 hmm. it onyl downloaded half of one conversation over the last several days, the rest it just picked up now. meh. skype implementation on syngergy sucks. wish there was a seperate app Sep 03 22:35:40 Why am I getting trolled on facebook for getting a $150 unlocked Pre2 and Touchstone? "LOL its a pre2 its old as sh**" Sep 03 22:36:05 Because clearly 9 months is "old as sh**" Sep 03 22:40:22 wonder if my crappy prepaid carrier iWireless had any pres Sep 03 22:40:42 Jiggy Blocks is ready for review! Sep 03 22:40:56 fxspec06: what's that? Sep 03 22:41:02 it's jiggy blocks Sep 03 22:41:08 oh. gotcha. Sep 03 22:41:10 your favorite jigsaw block arcade game Sep 03 22:41:19 lmao Sep 03 22:41:33 I was thinking tetris pieces hanging out gettin jiggy. Sep 03 22:41:46 has anyone tried glimpse? Sep 03 22:41:49 http://i.imgur.com/evGIM.jpg Sep 03 22:42:01 i have glimpse. it rocks Sep 03 22:42:30 fxspec: you made a tetris clone? Sep 03 22:43:02 :D Sep 03 22:43:24 id like to have glimpse Sep 03 22:43:48 it costs a couple bucks, right ? Sep 03 22:43:57 5 or something Sep 03 22:43:59 a couple times two plus one Sep 03 22:44:11 minus a penny Sep 03 22:44:18 we must hang around different couples Sep 03 22:44:47 i'd like glimpse too Sep 03 22:44:53 but don't want to spend $5 at the moment Sep 03 23:00:22 Woop Sep 03 23:07:12 Sweet. https://developer.palm.com/distribution/viewtopic.php?p=90618#p90618 Sep 03 23:08:24 what up Sep 03 23:09:04 quick question...is there any way to quickly scroll up in the browser? Sep 03 23:10:04 instead of manually scrolling, is there a guestureth Sep 03 23:10:15 that lets you do this? Sep 03 23:17:33 shotime: Nope. Make one! Sep 03 23:17:55 uh....how? Sep 03 23:18:03 Patch it Sep 03 23:19:09 have decided - want bt keyboard naou! Sep 03 23:21:35 I can't wait to get mine Sep 03 23:22:13 have not even ordered one Sep 03 23:23:11 Hello, is it the good chan to ask about preware cross-compile? Sep 03 23:24:50 so, did you know the cpu in the TP is actually designed to handle 2160P video? Sep 03 23:25:34 we just have to get it in the right format Sep 03 23:26:26 Well, first off, I don't think 2160P video exists at the moment Sep 03 23:26:47 and second off, the screen isn't capable of that resolution anyway Sep 03 23:27:18 Any devs abut Sep 03 23:27:27 LarrySteeze: Don't forget a 12MP camera Sep 03 23:27:33 bouncer: Of course Sep 03 23:27:35 just us code monkeys Sep 03 23:27:44 shadyman: what do you mean? Sep 03 23:28:02 shadyman: I don't think the CPU has much to do with the camera sensor Sep 03 23:28:20 LarrySteeze: That resolution exists Sep 03 23:28:37 Could someone please for the love of sanity port over a torrent clinet? Sep 03 23:28:38 LarrySteeze: It's just higher, like 4k, 5k, etc. Sep 03 23:29:58 hmmm arctic-ice suggested modeswitcher to me last night, can't find it in preware or appcatalog :( Sep 03 23:31:02 kesne: I meant as a video format...that is widely used Sep 03 23:31:26 my point was supposed to be that even blu-rays are only 1080P Sep 03 23:31:31 LarrySteeze: Depends if it's all coming over I2C or if it's over GPIO, I'd imagine Sep 03 23:31:56 12MP over I2c would suck, I'd imagine Sep 03 23:32:20 Though to be fair, their intention was for 1080P stereoscopic, which does exist Sep 03 23:32:52 1080p at 120hz? Sep 03 23:33:08 apparently Sep 03 23:33:29 Snapdragon APQ: "Designed to support up to 16MP cameras and comes with fully integrated image signal processor (ISP)." Sep 03 23:33:45 How difficult is it to do a haptic feedback patch? Sep 03 23:33:45 Dual Camera Support (Hi/Lo Res) / Fully integrated ISP with advanced imaging software, support for camcorder, stereo3D, augmented reality, and robust image editing Sep 03 23:34:08 LarrySteeze: http://www.qualcomm.com/documents/snapdragon-msm8x60-apq8060-product-brief Sep 03 23:34:12 bouncer: not very...on which device? Sep 03 23:34:22 TouchPad Sep 03 23:34:29 I wouldn't want it on the TP Sep 03 23:34:38 and to be honest, I don't think you would either Sep 03 23:34:55 I seem it miss keys Sep 03 23:34:55 it's a larger device, so the haptic feedback wouldn't feel as centralized Sep 03 23:35:05 lovin webos Sep 03 23:35:11 But hey, if someone comes out with a patch, sure :D Sep 03 23:35:17 on an android keyboard the haptic feedback helps me out with that quite dramaticly Sep 03 23:35:18 Patches for everything, no one has to use it, but the option is there Sep 03 23:35:32 bouncer: have you used it on a tablet/ Sep 03 23:35:37 did any1 get the b&n credit for canceled tp oders Sep 03 23:35:37 bouncer: The TP does have audio feedback, but maybe haptic wouldn't be that bad Sep 03 23:36:00 I absolute hate audio clicks it drives me mad Sep 03 23:36:04 blizz5243_: Good to hear, and nope, didn't go through B&N Sep 03 23:36:05 bouncer: there are haptic feedback patches for the other devices...feel free to look at the code for those Sep 03 23:36:45 Last time I looked at code was 8 years ago in visual basic! I know nothing about it Sep 03 23:37:01 been a big android player but the tp is smoother than I would have assumed Sep 03 23:37:13 :D Sep 03 23:37:22 Yeah, I dont' find android quite as intuitive Sep 03 23:38:02 'with the influx of new devs/users were gonna see some cool new stuff Sep 03 23:38:08 yep Sep 03 23:38:28 I've got a streaming Last.fm client 85% done, almost ready for beta testing Sep 03 23:39:29 Torrent app please :-) Sep 03 23:43:00 hi guys Sep 03 23:43:35 hi all! Sep 03 23:44:23 hi! Sep 03 23:45:00 ok the card view easter egg has my gr laughing so hard I think she might pee. Sep 03 23:45:07 *my gf Sep 03 23:47:38 what card view easter egg? Sep 03 23:48:09 wheeeeee! Sep 03 23:48:54 Yea what am I missing Sep 03 23:49:12 wheeeee! Sep 03 23:49:34 (hold your touchpad upside down so that the speakers are up, pull a card to the bottom of the screen, release) Sep 03 23:50:47 is it a skund? Sep 03 23:50:50 sound Sep 03 23:51:25 I normally use the "slingshot" feature Sep 03 23:56:58 so who in here thinks this has bad graphics Sep 03 23:56:58 http://i.imgur.com/evGIM.jpg Sep 03 23:57:07 and be careful what you say ;) Sep 04 00:00:18 ok, read the wiki can't find modeswitcher at all :( Sep 04 00:04:48 @fxspec06 The trees are horrid, And its good if your left handed... Sep 04 00:06:13 fxspec06 the wallpaper looks like crap Sep 04 00:08:32 lol i can't upscale anything Sep 04 00:08:38 it's 320 x 280 Sep 04 00:08:49 get better wallpapers Sep 04 00:10:55 Someone tell me how to mention someone proberly? Sep 04 00:11:14 are you using wirc? Sep 04 00:11:21 start their name and hit tab Sep 04 00:11:22 Yip Sep 04 00:11:37 Caleb: hmmmm Sep 04 00:12:08 Did it mention yourself Caleb Sep 04 00:12:22 bouncer yeah Sep 04 00:12:32 Caleb: This time? Sep 04 00:12:36 yep Sep 04 00:12:45 anyone find netflix workaround Sep 04 00:12:50 Cheers for that :-) Sep 04 00:13:09 blizz5243 not as far as i know Sep 04 00:13:25 damn Sep 04 00:14:59 it's really really really hard to find a wallpaper that scales up well at 320 x 280 Sep 04 00:20:52 you can use the actual netflix webiste i'm pretty sure Sep 04 00:22:46 no Sep 04 00:26:12 hi Sep 04 00:26:58 fxspec06 no silverlight Sep 04 00:27:06 sup EricBlade-TP Sep 04 00:27:33 ya, i was pretty sure i heard of someone who got it working tho Sep 04 00:27:39 mayb not Sep 04 00:28:11 heard? Sep 04 00:28:19 now if you read it id wanna see the site Sep 04 00:29:09 unless netflix makes the app or silverlight gets ported, it ain't gonna happen capn Sep 04 00:30:46 yeah, heard. i think i heard one of my friends talking about it Sep 04 00:33:57 morning Sep 04 00:34:04 hi Sep 04 00:34:17 good morning rod Sep 04 00:34:31 how's everything on your side of the world today Sep 04 00:38:57 father's day, watching my son's soccer game Sep 04 00:47:49 rwhitby-pre: morning? it's 02:42 in the night! :) Sep 04 00:48:20 not in the important part of the world Sep 04 00:48:28 :D Sep 04 00:49:00 i was supposed to go to bunnings... not doing that on fathers day Sep 04 00:50:46 heh Sep 04 00:53:44 rwhitby-pre: in germany fathers day is 40 days behind easter Sep 04 00:54:32 at "Ascension Day" Sep 04 00:54:57 funny that it is 4th september in the important parts of the world. Sep 04 00:55:43 it's first sunday in september I think Sep 04 00:55:50 not that I've ever paid any attention Sep 04 00:57:02 fxspec06: check out the walpapers--> http://wall.alphacoders.com/ Sep 04 00:57:56 yeah i have good wallpapers. but they have to be reduced to 320 x 280 and scaled up Sep 04 00:58:00 lol Sep 04 00:58:17 Freman: you never paid attention 'cause just because it's on sunday and not during the working week - at least for me it would be the case, why i would not pay attention to a feast day Sep 04 00:58:25 :) Sep 04 00:59:22 those are cool tho, bookmarked Sep 04 01:00:18 Darnit Sep 04 01:00:57 darnit! Sep 04 01:01:27 I hate this stupid thing Sep 04 01:01:45 it is extremely stupid. so stupid Sep 04 01:01:50 i hate it too Sep 04 01:01:52 Haha, well Sep 04 01:01:54 Both things Sep 04 01:02:00 lol what is it Sep 04 01:02:55 How can I get the width of a specific vflexbox in enyo? Sep 04 01:03:58 good question Sep 04 01:04:03 very carefully Sep 04 01:04:15 i'm really not quite sure, to be honest. Sep 04 01:04:34 you can try giving it an id when you set it up, then call that id. maybe that would work Sep 04 01:05:39 tried it Sep 04 01:05:41 I mated enyo and jquery... I feel dirty Sep 04 01:05:53 tried calling node width, node style width, and just width Sep 04 01:06:46 i dont understand why you can't give an enyo kind an ID Sep 04 01:06:59 You can Sep 04 01:06:59 Name Sep 04 01:07:30 yes, which I've already discovered through no-fault-of-my-own must be unique Sep 04 01:07:42 this.$.parent.name.style.width doesn't work? Sep 04 01:08:11 wow disconnects like crazy today and wirc doesn't auto reconnect Sep 04 01:08:18 fxspec06: What are we talking about? Sep 04 01:08:58 this.$.name.style.width Sep 04 01:09:02 EricBlade-TP: I hook my wirc up through znc Sep 04 01:09:31 i know you can do this.$.name.removeClass.. and setStyle.. Sep 04 01:10:07 but there's no documentation to get a style. the name isn't the 'ID'. it's the name Sep 04 01:10:24 fxspec06: enyo.byId Sep 04 01:10:45 hmm. did you try that Sep 04 01:11:28 id: "myvflexbox", ... then in your function enyo.byId("myvflexbox").style.width .. Sep 04 01:11:30 I... did not Sep 04 01:11:41 maybe that would work Sep 04 01:12:14 ahhh doh... rm * /some/path Sep 04 01:12:33 if not i'd go check out spaz source on github. could find something in there. otherwise idk if i can help Sep 04 01:19:21 Damn flex Sep 04 01:26:36 RAWR Sep 04 01:26:38 Okay Sep 04 01:26:41 I have horizontal down Sep 04 01:37:22 ping Sep 04 01:37:48 pong Sep 04 01:40:28 if I don't have any inboxes in my email folders list why does it still insist on refreshing the inboxes? I want it to regularly check my other folders not my inboxes Sep 04 01:41:29 hmm Sep 04 01:47:24 man I can't wait to get RDP support on touchpad. now if I could get a mouse for it that'd be fantastic Sep 04 01:48:32 I thought it had rdp and vnc already Sep 04 01:48:41 with the debian or ubuntu chroot you have it Sep 04 01:51:51 there's a native touchpad rdp comingsoon Sep 04 01:54:31 nice Sep 04 01:55:05 awesome Sep 04 01:55:27 im getting wireshark cli compiled Sep 04 01:55:38 that'd be nice Sep 04 01:55:43 what other apps are good? Sep 04 01:55:47 I hear the advance browser helped Sep 04 02:01:26 From what I hear wireshark doesnt have much in the way in API Sep 04 02:06:26 I'll hope to have a nice google voice app out there soon. should be pretty full featured. I've already got everything I ever use on it implemented Sep 04 02:11:16 * DougReeder waves hello Sep 04 02:11:27 ohai :-) Sep 04 02:11:58 nighty Sep 04 02:12:40 Hi, Adora, any leaks for us tonight? Sep 04 02:24:58 lol Sep 04 02:26:58 I need halp Sep 04 02:27:03 :( Sep 04 02:28:45 with? Sep 04 02:31:32 Getting stupid iScroll to work Sep 04 02:31:35 Or Sep 04 02:31:44 Getting the stupid enyo image kind to accept toDataURL data Sep 04 02:33:09 i got iscroll to work Sep 04 02:33:13 a long time ago Sep 04 02:35:43 I got it working Sep 04 02:35:48 but just not well. Sep 04 02:37:18 nuttybunny Sep 04 02:37:26 who wrote nomnomnom Sep 04 02:37:37 Tibfib_ did Sep 04 02:37:56 siestacat: ^^ Sep 04 02:38:09 tibfib_ Sep 04 02:38:26 you've has Jr app pirated Sep 04 02:39:08 he knows Sep 04 02:39:17 and he is a Jr too ; ) Sep 04 02:47:15 sugardave: This BigXII implosion makes me sad Sep 04 02:52:59 Y'know, using the Touchpad keyboard with my netbook is... Actually really nice. Sep 04 02:59:31 hello friends! Sep 04 02:59:42 helloooooo~ **** ENDING LOGGING AT Sun Sep 04 02:59:57 2011