**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Fri Sep 09 02:59:57 2011 Sep 09 03:00:47 but if you move? Sep 09 03:02:11 Anywhere where I use my Mexico profile, I get the Mexico apps, which, btw, are almost the same as in other regions :D but I have problems from time to time Sep 09 03:04:04 sugardave: ping? Sep 09 03:06:32 promo codes are tuff. you gotta be there before the codes sell out and before the catalog crashes Sep 09 03:09:06 happens every time they do this and clearly they cant be bothered to fix it before next time. Sep 09 03:09:52 Now to drop one of these into a TP :P http://www.csr.com/products/32/csr9000 Sep 09 03:10:08 scaling some servers and a cdn isnt exactly rocket science, and for a company trumpeting their cloud computing ... Sep 09 03:10:14 FM Radio and GPS (and wifi and bluetooth, but we already ahve those) Sep 09 03:10:52 transmit fm Sep 09 03:11:08 oh Sep 09 03:11:25 http://www.csr.com/products/47/bluecore-bc7830 then :p Transmit and receive FM Sep 09 03:14:59 thats sweet Sep 09 03:16:38 or http://www.stericsson.com/sales_marketing_resources/CG2900FL.pdf [pdf link] Sep 09 03:17:33 I'd have to probe for a free UART pair or somesuch though for comms :( Sep 09 03:17:40 i2c would be so much easier Sep 09 03:26:41 http://twitter.com/#!/Adora/status/111997731165323264 Sep 09 03:26:49 "PSA: we're investigating the @palm App Catalog issues. Please stand by..." Sep 09 03:31:45 *sigh* Sep 09 03:36:25 gotta go.. I hope the app cat gets fixed by tomorrow so I can leave a review on Wildn' :) Sep 09 03:55:32 hey all Sep 09 03:57:58 hey folks Sep 09 03:58:08 can someone help me with the emulator pls :( Sep 09 03:58:14 the icons appear MASSIVE Sep 09 03:58:21 http://o7.no/qzGjHS <-- Sep 09 03:58:34 its like. its using the touchpad's size icons Sep 09 04:01:05 Adora: are the "HP webOS App News" emails going out to everybody? Sep 09 04:01:22 chuqui can answer too :) Sep 09 04:01:35 hi PatrickC_TP Sep 09 04:01:42 hey eighthree Sep 09 04:01:50 all palm profiles, I think Sep 09 04:02:04 Adora: ok. I should be getting about 4 then :P Sep 09 04:02:14 I'll juts have to wait.. patiently :) Sep 09 04:02:37 and the tp's app catalog issue can be easily bypassed.. its an issue with Pivot, not the catalog Sep 09 04:02:50 yeah, I thought I'd get one...maybe they're rolling out Sep 09 04:02:58 (or two, or three...) Sep 09 04:03:01 if you are quick enough to hit the "categories" button, then you are fin Sep 09 04:03:03 fine* Sep 09 04:03:08 lol Sep 09 04:03:25 * PatrickC_TP has 4 palm profiles himself Sep 09 04:03:39 my dad has 2, my mom has 1, and my brother has 1 Sep 09 04:04:12 20:53 < eighthree> http://o7.no/qzGjHS <-- Sep 09 04:04:24 heh. yea. that looks like some resizing down from pre3 to pre2 res not working. I noticed that too Sep 09 04:04:34 yeah Sep 09 04:04:38 how do i fix that :S Sep 09 04:04:56 its bothersome to have to test on device all the time.. Sep 09 04:05:01 PatrickC_TP: http://pastebin.com/4NR0zjBF Sep 09 04:05:01 and i don't have a pre-3 for exampled Sep 09 04:05:05 example* Sep 09 04:05:12 not a clue Sep 09 04:05:14 PatrickC_TP: it's more than just a pivot issue. it's an app catalog issue. Sep 09 04:05:35 fxspec06: if you get passed pivot, it will almost always work Sep 09 04:05:39 for me at least Sep 09 04:05:43 I wish when the appcat had issues "retry" you'd get a back button Sep 09 04:06:09 which, depending on how your appcat was launched, you might not get the categories/pivot/search thing at the bottom either Sep 09 04:06:22 almost doesn't count. i've "got past" pivot like you say and it still glitches, fails to load, fails to search, fails to allow me to purchase etc........... Sep 09 04:06:33 so if that's your definition of working, then yes. it is working just fine. Sep 09 04:06:36 * dwc- sees the same issues as fxspec06 from time to time Sep 09 04:06:46 it's Working as Normal (tm) Sep 09 04:06:58 yep, that's its normal state Sep 09 04:07:29 to me, unusable is not 'working' by any stretch of the imagination Sep 09 04:07:33 * PatrickC_TP waits for Adora to say "ITS FIXED" Sep 09 04:08:54 I wonder... will impostah let me get around what I'm wanting to? :) Sep 09 04:08:59 though the retries are slightly worse than usual right now Sep 09 04:09:14 usually I only get one per page Sep 09 05:12:17 looking for kernel help? Sep 09 05:13:06 think I may need to doctor but not sure. Sep 09 05:15:41 wrongs channel Sep 09 06:04:31 hola I'm back Sep 09 06:18:24 is there a way to view your feedback for an app on a pc Sep 09 06:18:31 or do you need to look in the catalog Sep 09 06:25:41 catalog only.. Sep 09 06:25:43 afaik. Sep 09 06:25:48 CTLAdvance: Sep 09 06:26:06 ok thats what I thought Sep 09 09:04:20 heyya Sep 09 10:31:13 is it right that the palm-inspector was gone with the webOS 3 SDK? Sep 09 10:31:28 never used it before, but I think it could be helpful Sep 09 10:34:38 just read about weinre, will give that a try Sep 09 13:04:09 anyone around with a touchpad? Sep 09 13:06:42 yes Draecos Sep 09 13:07:27 do you know anything about this issue with Quickoffice/Adobe Reader not updating the list of documents/pdfs? Sep 09 13:07:58 no Sep 09 13:08:43 ok np Sep 09 13:08:49 cheers anyhoo Sep 09 13:16:12 hello, i added the stylesheet in the index.html page, but that doesn't make the styles applied to the scenes i push. Sep 09 13:35:55 does anyone review TP apps? Sep 09 13:37:28 whenever there is a change of track in Music(remix), the new track doesnt play. Anyone knows about that ? Sep 09 13:37:44 if I press next, I have to tap the play button twice for it to start Sep 09 13:38:06 or press next again, I'll get a track playing every other track Sep 09 13:39:03 I've been using it without any issue on webos 1.4.5 on pre+ for a long time, now I have a pre3 with webos2.2 and I get this weird bug :( Sep 09 13:41:09 I'm looking to trade a few promo codes for reviews if anyone is interested Sep 09 13:44:08 is the meta-doctors for pre+ no longer available? Sep 09 13:45:55 HP, you are killing me... review my TP app update already pleas Sep 09 13:47:22 solix: not sure it's the same thing, but I installed webos2 with the app found from there : http://ws.hpwebos.com/webosdoctor/serialnumberinitial.htm Sep 09 13:48:10 thanks famic but no not the same thing. :( thx tho Sep 09 13:50:58 hey hotdp, do you know I the meta-doctors are still available? thx. Sep 09 13:51:27 where can i find the css attributes for each built in widgets. any documentation about customization, styling?? Sep 09 13:53:13 solix: sure Sep 09 13:54:17 oh ok, cause I couldn't find it @ it's usual place. will look again. k) Sep 09 13:59:59 sugardave,: ping? Sep 09 14:06:23 fxspec06: ah, yes, your review! Sep 09 14:07:59 what's it doing while it says "PLEASE WAIT"???? Sep 09 14:11:16 is it possible to add arrow button in a list, just as in ios lists? Sep 09 14:11:24 hmm. ok, retarded newbie question. say i have a kind "a", and i want to call the "show" function in that kind, from within itself .. but "this" is not itself, it's something else .. how do i get to the show function in that kind? Sep 09 14:14:09 thisisit: in the list header? or where? (I don't use iOS) :) Sep 09 14:14:37 have you used phonegap? not in the list header, the rows Sep 09 14:14:42 good morning. can anyone help me with an issue after upgrading to webos 2.1? Sep 09 14:15:01 EricBlade: this should be itself. You can also try this.$.kindname.show() Sep 09 14:15:32 thisisit: nope, sorry, but you could render a button on each row, everything is possible :) Sep 09 14:15:55 mm Sep 09 14:16:42 NuttyBunny: hmm. i had to enyo.bind() to get this to = this .. i hate javascript Sep 09 14:17:39 EricBlade: I hate it as well, I'm stuck on something too :S Sep 09 14:18:25 thanks nutty :) Sep 09 14:20:56 NuttyBunny thanks for the free cam app :) Sep 09 14:28:20 anyone find it infuriating that useful functions in the API are marked "protected", and therefore using them will result in your app not being allowed? Sep 09 14:30:50 hope my app doesn't get nailed on that, for adjusting a WebView's documentLoadFinished Sep 09 14:31:25 but I could make a really handy app using WebView.saveViewToFile. sigh. Sep 09 14:32:34 hmm. it's listed in the Mojo docs, maybe i can make a case for it Sep 09 14:33:56 you cant use protected services, but I think you're free to use protected enyo methods. Sep 09 14:34:30 ahhh.. i may have misunderstood the document that i was reading, then Sep 09 14:35:01 they're undocumented, so likely not a good idea, but I highly doubt the scanner catches them Sep 09 14:55:15 ok, where is a valid path that i can save data to? Sep 09 14:58:05 PDL_GetDataFilePath(,,) Sep 09 14:59:42 not working on a native code app Sep 09 14:59:51 but ty :) Sep 09 15:00:04 works for me /shrug Sep 09 15:00:50 oh you mean you are not working on a native app Sep 09 15:00:56 sorry i thought you meant it doesn't work on a native app Sep 09 15:01:19 yeah sorry, i mean i'm not working on one. looks like /media/internal is accessible. hooray Sep 09 15:02:30 actually that function just returns /media/internal/appdata/com.yourappname for me Sep 09 15:02:32 hmm. i wish i could go smoothly between usb connection enabled and not Sep 09 15:02:50 I'm curious about this as well. Doing mojo or enyo? Sep 09 15:03:02 enyo Sep 09 15:03:26 got the function i was calling to stop throwing invalid filename errors, but it looks like it doesn't do anything anyway boo Sep 09 15:05:07 What are you using to try and access /media/internal? Sep 09 15:05:24 <-- doesn't have a clue how it works... Sep 09 15:06:09 WebView.saveViewToFile Sep 09 15:06:26 Thx Sep 09 15:14:01 arrrrrgh had to reboot device to get usb mode to start, and now windows refuses to release it Sep 09 15:20:25 bah. now it's throwing the invalid filename error. sigh. Sep 09 15:23:39 bah! 3.0.2 made it only able to save to /var Sep 09 15:28:13 wow, HP's promo codes stuff is unreasonably infuriating Sep 09 15:28:43 i think a "if you're late to the game don't bother, loser" headline to the promotions they put out like that :P Sep 09 15:44:07 Adora, chuqui: ping? Sep 09 15:46:05 who in here got the "HP webOS App News: Issue 1" email? Sep 09 15:46:59 I'm going to guess.... everyone? Sep 09 15:47:19 nobody in my family got it Sep 09 15:47:25 and we have like 7 palm profiles Sep 09 15:48:15 I bet they are all US profiles Sep 09 15:48:24 PatrickC: Not me! where do I sign up Sep 09 15:48:38 rwhitby: yes. all my profiles are US profiles Sep 09 15:48:39 why? Sep 09 15:48:49 haydnh: if I knew. I would tell u.. lol Sep 09 15:49:00 PatrickC: so you automatically assume the offer is valid in the US ? Sep 09 15:49:17 well, when my US friends on twitter get the email, yes Sep 09 15:49:42 ah, well in that case they're just discriminating against you personally I guess. Sep 09 15:49:42 UK profile here - no e-mail Sep 09 15:49:51 lol Sep 09 15:49:55 lol Sep 09 15:50:20 I'm sure they know exactly which profiles are yours, and have them marked appropriately. Sep 09 15:50:34 Maybe Brown Belts are not eligible ... Sep 09 15:50:53 lol Sep 09 15:51:01 I have profiles that aren't mine :) Sep 09 15:51:11 that I monitor the emails for (parents, siblings) Sep 09 15:51:21 best bet? scalibility issues - email system fell over when sending out more than 10k messages. Sep 09 15:52:09 10k? There's go to be more pal profiles than that! Sep 09 15:52:14 *got Sep 09 15:52:22 or shock horror maybe it's a random sampling Sep 09 15:52:54 HP doing something random? never! Sep 09 15:52:56 haydnh: oh, Im sure there are plenty more. Sep 09 15:54:00 I'm putting my money on a gerbil strike in the email servers. Sep 09 15:54:18 I didnt get the email either, nor my friends. If it wasnt for dwc- I wouldnt have known about the promo codes Sep 09 15:54:44 what is the promo anyway? I haven't heard yet Sep 09 15:56:02 hm. where is the map application in the pre3 doctor? its supposed to be enyo, but cant find it in /user/palm/applications .. Sep 09 15:56:02 I got two, different email accounts. Sep 09 15:56:25 maybe in cryptofs? Sep 09 15:56:40 haydnh: the one I wanted was for TapNote ;) Sep 09 15:56:43 map is downloaded, in cryptofs Sep 09 15:57:17 OMFG! WTF??? pcworld UK has TP 32GB in stock... £1000!!!! Sep 09 15:57:18 rwhitby: so the dr. just has a stub app, or the code? Sep 09 15:57:32 lol Sep 09 15:58:14 That's like US$1580! Sep 09 15:58:16 so is Pre3 maps Bing maps? Sep 09 15:58:23 pcworld: yes Sep 09 15:58:48 rwatkins: look in /usr/palm/ipkgs Sep 09 15:58:50 $1500?!?!?! Sep 09 15:59:14 if people pay it... :) Sep 09 15:59:35 they should be paying me it! haha Sep 09 15:59:40 yep, seriously! http://www.pcworld.co.uk/gbuk/touchpad-tablet-pc-32gb-10834969-pdt.html Sep 09 15:59:49 they've gone insane! Sep 09 15:59:52 PatrickC: well put your touchpad on ebay at that price and see what you get Sep 09 15:59:56 then sell your TP :D Sep 09 16:00:15 rwhitby: in the US you won't get near that much... :/ Sep 09 16:00:17 rwhitby: ah, thx Sep 09 16:00:24 we are spoiled with all the placed to get them :P Sep 09 16:00:32 $200 on craigslist Sep 09 16:00:48 I can't imagine someone buying it for 1500$ Sep 09 16:00:56 bug$ Sep 09 16:01:09 just noticed a bug in wirc :D Sep 09 16:01:16 what? lol Sep 09 16:01:23 wIRC has no bugs :) Sep 09 16:01:38 when selecting an item in the special keys popup via enter, the msg gets sent Sep 09 16:01:43 Mojo version Sep 09 16:02:59 TP emulator sooo sluggish on my pc :D Sep 09 16:03:27 really? it's pretty snappy on mine Sep 09 16:03:52 not the best computer... Sep 09 16:04:05 pcworld: do you not have a touchpad? Sep 09 16:04:09 I thought you did? Sep 09 16:04:14 no Sep 09 16:04:24 no, sadly not Sep 09 16:04:26 k i got a huge question. Sep 09 16:04:55 fxspec06: I got a huge answer Sep 09 16:05:31 i have an embedded object in HTML. i need to dynamically change this w/ a variable. how do i do this. EX:

Sep 09 16:06:12 a C plugin? Sep 09 16:07:25 Sep 09 16:07:44 i'm not sure if this is really possible. it's not a flash plugin Sep 09 16:07:50 it's a flash plugin* Sep 09 16:08:14 you have to add the object tag at runtime I think Sep 09 16:08:34 I don't think Flash recognizes when you make changes to the params later Sep 09 16:08:38 hmm with innerHTML, yes? Sep 09 16:08:47 website or webOS app? Sep 09 16:09:08 webOS app Sep 09 16:09:31 you can't use Flash in webOS apps afaik, except in WebViews Sep 09 16:09:36 the variable is ready at time of the dom content loaded Sep 09 16:10:04 i found a way to work it ;) but i cant figure out this particular question Sep 09 16:10:16 create a new domnode object and add it where you want it to be Sep 09 16:10:24 it's a diff kind of webview / iframe using jquery Sep 09 16:10:34 oh there's an idea. i'll try that Sep 09 16:14:36 anyone here uses popup menus in Mojo and made their app fullscreen on TP? Sep 09 16:36:36 hm .. can someone help me? http://pastebin.com/CxnmyYzL I'm trying to have 2 IntegerPickers next to each other. Unforunately the second picker doesn't display - I'm sure this is some understand problem i've got.. can someone solve it? Sep 09 16:37:23 understanding problem* Sep 09 16:39:13 * NuttyBunny will install TD's build of android and make it dual boot on my TouchPad with bootr :D Sep 09 16:39:39 DOOOOO ITTTTTTTT Sep 09 16:40:40 NuttyBunny: wait for the CM7 build, then you know the code hasn't been stolen. Sep 09 16:41:16 hm to be honest I totally don't understand this line from the webos docs: this.propChange = this.propChange.bindAsEventListener(this); :( Sep 09 16:48:39 rwhitby, Ah, wasn't that the CM7 one? /me checks again Sep 09 17:10:09 divStar: this.propChange becomes a reference to the bound instance of itself Sep 09 17:10:22 so now you can use that reference as the propertychange handler Sep 09 17:10:34 and then also use that same reference to stop listening when required Sep 09 17:13:15 so if I have two integerpickers - a minute and a hour picker - I create two handlers (minutesPropertyChange and hoursPropertyChange) .. so the line is "this.minutesPropertyChange = this.minutesPropertyChange.bind(this);" and the same with hoursPropertyChange? Sep 09 17:13:41 <-- doesnt understand what stolen open source code is.. Sep 09 17:14:09 nevermind - it works .. I mistyped something Sep 09 17:14:27 that's why I had trouble getting an event response .. thank you very much sugardave Sep 09 17:16:47 opensource != free Sep 09 17:17:26 nothing is free. someone gave me a "free" sailboat. it wasn't.. Sep 09 17:17:29 but you may use it freely, no? with some exceptions in terms of license (= you have to publish your changes too, no?) Sep 09 17:17:32 code can be open to read, but not unrestricted to redistribute Sep 09 17:17:37 rwatkins: yes Sep 09 17:18:05 though I'm not into license talking *continues lurking* Sep 09 17:18:14 entirely depends on the license of the code. just because you can see the code, doesnt mean you can do anything you want with it. Sep 09 17:18:46 look at the license - that tells you what you can do with the code. Sep 09 17:19:22 why would anyone want to read code if you may not use it anywhere (not even for helping develop the application further)? Sep 09 17:19:42 except maybe for checking for backdoors or something ... but I personally never read code for just that. Sep 09 17:19:57 i read enyo code all the time to resolve how to implement things in my app. Sep 09 17:20:35 i read code for the palm applications all the time for the same reason as well. Sep 09 17:21:12 divStar: it's possible to read and learn things without directly copying / violating copyright Sep 09 17:21:48 hm .. I assume so .. though the border is everything but straight and distinct enough .. how much reproducing the code is already copying? etc. Sep 09 17:22:43 ask google and oracle laywers, they're fighting over exactly that right now. Sep 09 17:22:45 though.. while we're at moyo code .. where do I find the by default available css-classes? like .."palm-row" and "palm-row-wrapper" etc.? where's that css file (if available)? Sep 09 17:23:13 cd framework ; ack 'palm-row-wrapper' Sep 09 17:23:14 divStar: also if I recall correctly the SDK license grants you permission to copy code from the SDK or the included apps to use in making a webOS app specifically Sep 09 17:23:41 well I have a personal opinion on patents and copyright laws .. even though I work as a software developer, I'd prefer far less restrictive copyright laws. Sep 09 17:23:50 Is it possible to create a permanent menu item like the wifi one? Sep 09 17:24:14 divStar: which explains why music player remix (a blatant copy and edit of the default music player that comes with webos) was legal Sep 09 17:24:29 divStar: there's an xls sheet for download in the pdc Sep 09 17:24:35 oh @rwatkins - I'm on windows ^^ Sep 09 17:25:02 ah fantastic - thank you pcworld I'll go look for it Sep 09 17:25:18 but it didn't help me... Sep 09 17:25:47 well .. aren't those supposed to contain at least the class names D:? Sep 09 17:25:57 yes Sep 09 17:26:44 hm .. now I only need to at least find it.. Sep 09 17:27:52 divStar: cygwin Sep 09 17:28:07 wrea: no, its not. Sep 09 17:28:23 bummer Sep 09 17:29:06 those things represent stuff from the menu they are tied to Sep 09 17:29:13 ahh... now I understand why you wanted to use ack .. tho I must admit I dont particulary like it Sep 09 17:29:23 (I found the folder with all those stylesheet files) Sep 09 17:29:32 Right. Sep 09 17:30:57 strange .. how the hell am I supposed to position two divs next to each other in one line? (two integer pickers) - I thought I'd just use display: inline; .. but it doesn't seem to work Sep 09 17:31:19 funny thing is that two lines above that display: inline; works just fine Sep 09 17:34:09 Well, it wouldve been nice to be able to create a menu Sep 09 17:39:02 ahh.. using "display: inline-block;" on each of the divs solved the problem.. Sep 09 17:42:43 anyone know if there's hiding somewhere in the sdk docs or some wiki, a list of all the various services ? Sep 09 17:43:22 nvm Sep 09 17:43:23 the list of the services offered by webos is in the pdc Sep 09 17:43:41 i search for a while, then i ask, then i immediately find it Sep 09 17:43:44 you can find it under reference Sep 09 17:44:23 so is Yahoo integration broken on 2.1? Sep 09 17:44:50 IGNTNUNLMTD: long time no see Sep 09 17:44:57 indeed! how are ya? Sep 09 17:49:14 IGNTNUNLMTD: doin good Sep 09 17:49:22 have you been getting the Your Radio betas? Sep 09 17:50:27 no, I haven't been doing much in the way of beta testing but I can start again! are they on preware? Sep 09 17:52:38 IGNTNUNLMTD: nope Sep 09 17:52:46 that's gonna change soon though ;) Sep 09 17:53:02 I have a computer that /can/ have internet access for ftp now Sep 09 17:53:37 so.. right now its still just email Sep 09 17:53:53 ah k Sep 09 17:56:24 IGNTNUNLMTD: I'll fwd you everything today Sep 09 17:56:30 ah nice Sep 09 17:56:32 add you to the email list ;) Sep 09 17:56:41 the enyo looks amazing now Sep 09 17:56:50 and *almost* has local file playback :D Sep 09 18:08:34 hmm. if i run the textIndexer on strings, it turns text faces into emoticons .. except.. my app can't access the emoticons Sep 09 18:08:51 [20110909-14:11:37.927444] error: Not allowed to load local resource: file:///usr/palm/emoticons//emoticon-smile.png Sep 09 18:09:44 ... what methods do i have to solve that, preferably other than stripping the slimey faces to begin with Sep 09 18:13:13 slimey faces lol Sep 09 18:13:21 that file path seems wrong Sep 09 18:13:25 its missing something Sep 09 18:13:27 Who ya gunna call? Ghostbusters! Sep 09 18:15:46 EricBlade: /use/palm/emoticons//emoticon-smile.png? Sep 09 18:15:51 //? Sep 09 18:16:19 PatrickC: i didn't ask for it that way, that's the way the system loads it Sep 09 18:16:27 odd Sep 09 18:20:10 ah, i can pass it { emoticon: false } as a second parameter, and it will stop parsing it. it'd be nice if i could allow it access to the smiley faces! Sep 09 18:28:59 next probably retarded question.. onLinkClicked does not appear to return anything resembling the location of the click, or the item that was clicked, it only gives up a URL. any way to figure out where that click was? Sep 09 18:30:25 it returns sender, url and event Sep 09 18:30:55 look and see if sender is the HtmlContent kind or the actual element. if not the element, then use the event Sep 09 18:32:49 hm .. just a quick question about cleaning up listeners .. in the example they use Mojo.Event.StopListening.. can I use this.controller.stopListening along with my widget, the Mojo.Event type and my eventHandler? Sep 09 18:32:50 i logged sender and event, and sender is empty, event is just the url Sep 09 18:33:14 inSender, inUrl, inEvent Sep 09 18:33:22 ah d'oh Sep 09 18:41:55 hm .. is there some kind to create a method that calls itself repeatedly? I know there is a way to do so in JavaScript - how about WebOS? Sep 09 18:42:26 webOS is JavaScript Sep 09 18:42:45 ah so I can have a method calling itself like .. until some value is reached, right? Sep 09 18:43:10 I believe so Sep 09 18:43:20 thanks I'll try! :) Sep 09 18:46:34 ah I believe I might be using Mojo.Timing Sep 09 18:48:07 window.setInterval() Sep 09 18:50:28 ah so there is no way to use the Mojo framework for that? I just would like to have a method call itself over and over again until a certain value is reached .. Sep 09 18:50:48 like .. every second (I'm writing a very simple timer) Sep 09 18:51:23 window.setInterval(myFunc, 1000); Sep 09 18:52:15 function myFunc() { foo++; if foo == 10 { clearInterval() } } Sep 09 18:52:32 ah .. okay .. clearInterval is another method in the window-object? Sep 09 18:52:34 though you need to assign the interval to a variable to be able to clear it later Sep 09 18:52:52 yes. var timer = setInterval(); clearInterval(timer) Sep 09 18:53:05 okay .. window is not a scene, nor a stage though - it's really the usual javascript window-object, right? Sep 09 18:53:15 https://developer.mozilla.org/en/window.setInterval Sep 09 18:53:20 indeed Sep 09 18:53:29 okay. Thank you very much I'll look into it! Sep 09 18:54:09 gotta remember that an app card is just a browser window. all the other basic stuff is still there - mojo/enyo are just extra frameworks on top of that Sep 09 18:54:36 ahh.. so basically I can really use most of the js and css stuff? Sep 09 18:54:53 sorry - I am really new into webos developing Sep 09 18:55:02 yes, pretty much anything - as long as its supported in the webOS version of webkit - which is roughly like an older version of Chrome. Sep 09 18:55:26 rwatkins: if i run textIndexer on strings to make URLs, it also gives me html-ized emoticons .. except my app can't access the stock emoticons, presumably because i don't have rights to do that .. is there something i need to call to get that, or remap my own emoticons in, or something, any idea? Sep 09 18:55:29 okay... Sep 09 18:55:52 EricBlade: dunno, never used that. and dont really care for emoticons. :) Sep 09 18:56:08 yeah i don't care one way or the other, but users like them Sep 09 19:02:19 why aClass:link or aClass:active not working in webos. how to stylize elements with the before touch, after touch and holding finger events. Sep 09 19:02:39 you can't copy the text of webpages in webOS 3?! Sep 09 19:03:29 please help me with your knowledge Sep 09 19:04:11 pcworld: yes, you can. click, hold then drag selection handlers. Sep 09 19:05:51 also in non-textfields? (only at emulator here) Sep 09 19:06:28 yes, in web pages. or email. not application UI though. Sep 09 19:19:25 So will we ever get dialog boxes in the browser to upload files? Sep 09 19:19:57 I mean like browse local files to upload Sep 09 19:21:15 does anyone here have dropbox Sep 09 19:21:21 and a touchpad? Sep 09 19:24:48 yes Sep 09 19:25:15 why? Sep 09 19:27:45 i need you to try something just to make sure the instructions are clear and that it works. it's not for sale and i don't want advice, i just want to know if it was easy to understand and if it works Sep 09 19:28:12 ok Sep 09 19:31:09 i can't send it to gmail because it executable file Sep 09 19:31:16 it has a * Sep 09 19:31:33 hmm. ok, so i'm trying to see what happens :) if i were to move some of my code into a seperate file, because having 2k lines of code is driving me nuts. i have a specific style that is applied to a particular Popup, and when i use that in the new file, the popup is never visible .. but if i remove the custom style, or put the declaration for it back into the main file.. then it works .. what might i be missing.. Sep 09 19:33:26 fxspec06: why can't you send it thru gmail? Sep 09 19:33:29 just attach it? Sep 09 19:33:35 what extension? Sep 09 19:35:52 i can't attach it, because the zip contains a executable file. it's a script. a .vbs. google doesn't allow it. Sep 09 19:38:57 upload it to box/dropbox and PM me the share link Sep 09 19:39:02 it work on ubuntu? Sep 09 19:43:06 rwhitby: is PHD available in Aussie catalog? Sep 09 20:46:02 Why does the developer portal suck so bad :/ Sep 09 20:46:28 they are revamping the forums I hear Sep 09 20:47:22 forum shmorum Sep 09 20:47:49 Lets just talk about the basics Sep 09 20:53:28 If a transaction fails, do the users still get to download it Sep 09 20:53:51 Hey Look Its Adora! Sep 09 20:54:34 where? Sep 09 20:56:25 [3 Sep 09 20:56:28 whoops. Sep 09 21:14:48 my app was being reviewed yesterday, i wonder how long it will actually take to show up .. Sep 09 21:14:56 NotAdora is awesome :) Sep 09 21:15:39 PatrickC: and what is that Sep 09 21:15:50 hmm. the app store won't even launch Sep 09 21:16:05 Not Adora Sep 09 21:16:10 Caleb: someone who is awesome Sep 09 21:16:38 hahaha Sep 09 21:16:48 why is he awesome Sep 09 21:17:46 I successfully created a preware feed! with minimum webos versions!!! Sep 09 21:17:49 Caleb: *she* Sep 09 21:17:50 :) Sep 09 21:17:58 ok Sep 09 21:18:00 she Sep 09 21:18:12 she is the most awesome worker at Palm Sep 09 21:18:18 next to chuqui ;) Sep 09 21:18:59 haha got ya Sep 09 21:24:08 "We could not find a valid HP webOS Account. You need a valid account to use HP App Catalog." ???? Sep 09 21:36:57 EricBlade: on what???? Sep 09 21:37:09 i can't open the catalog Sep 09 21:37:40 that's not good.... Sep 09 21:48:11 mpw o Sep 09 21:48:19 ,now i'm not even getting that error, just nothing at all Sep 09 21:49:57 webos account management giving up a 403 Sep 09 21:52:31