**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Sat Sep 24 02:59:57 2011
Sep 24 03:03:13 <wrea> Okay I wasnt sure on that one.
Sep 24 03:05:27 <wrea> I had it in a semi working state with adhoc too, recompiled and now its back to the problem I was having before
Sep 24 03:07:24 * dwc- smells a netsplit
Sep 24 03:08:39 <wrea> kaboom
Sep 24 03:46:09 <Spanska> Anyone here with a meta-doctored Pre+ to webOS 2.1 that found a way to download certain free applications like PocketMirror for webOS 2+ ? I tried with Impostah, with the web browser (get a 'This application is not available for your model' error), DummyMaker, etc. I don't really know what more to try... any ideas?
Sep 24 03:47:44 <fxspec06_> spanska: not sure haven't used my meta-dr'd pre+ in a while
Sep 24 03:47:56 <fxspec06_> i can boot it to see if it still has app catalog access
Sep 24 03:54:57 <fxspec06_> Spanska: yes, able to install just fine. go into device info and make sure your palm profile doesn't say 'dr. skipped first use'
Sep 24 04:00:10 <rwhitby> Spanska: there's no way to get around the "not available for your model"
Sep 24 04:56:25 <SineOt> That's one Touchpad ordered… Now to hopefully find a second! :B
Sep 24 05:00:15 <seretogis> I'm hoping my second onSale order thing goes through :P
Sep 24 05:00:21 <seretogis> anyone do webOS dev in Eclipse?
Sep 24 05:00:27 * halfhalo shudders
Sep 24 05:00:35 <seretogis> aww, what's wrong with Eclipse? ;p
Sep 24 05:00:35 <Xuzz> hah
Sep 24 05:00:45 <Xuzz> everything
Sep 24 05:00:58 <seretogis> I pretty thoroughly enjoyed it on a big ol' php project at my last job
Sep 24 05:01:34 <seretogis> as much as I could enjoy something affiliated with Java, that is
Sep 24 05:02:24 <dwc-> where'd you find them in stock, SineOt?
Sep 24 05:02:55 <SineOt> dwc-: we finally got the link issue sorted out and were able to order a 32GB from OnSale since they cancelled our first order
Sep 24 05:03:39 <dwc-> ahh, finally!
Sep 24 05:04:06 * dwc- apparently should have bought 1 from each retailer that weekend
Sep 24 05:04:27 * dwc- passed after 1, but has since found friends/family/co-workers who would have wanted one
Sep 24 05:05:36 <Xuzz> SineOt: heh, i had two orders for two cancelled at OnSale
Sep 24 05:05:39 <Xuzz> how do you get more from them?
Sep 24 05:05:50 <seretogis> Xuzz: use a different credit/debit card :p
Sep 24 05:05:53 <Xuzz> (for friends, I don't need five touchpads)
Sep 24 05:07:42 <rwatkins> in enyo, ready() should only be called after all child components have been created, correct?
Sep 24 05:08:09 <EricBlade> i wouldn't be entrely certain, but i'd say most likely rwatkins
Sep 24 05:08:38 <rwatkins> ya, puzzled over that one for a bit but now just realized I fogot a "$"
Sep 24 05:08:54 <rwatkins> this.$.component, not this.component.  been working in Sencha too much.
Sep 24 05:09:55 <rwatkins> rebuilding a significant portion of my app to support a search results panel
Sep 24 05:10:10 <Spanska> rwhitby: could someone else download it for me then?
Sep 24 05:11:21 <rwhitby> Spanska: since it's freely available in the app catalog, as long as it is not publicly redistributed then I doubt anyone will know or care what you do in the privacy of your own home.
Sep 24 05:12:01 <EricBlade> rwhitby: tell that to the Republicans
Sep 24 05:12:11 <Spanska> rwhitby: or is there any app that would let me download the ipk somehow and send it to my device by email?
Sep 24 05:13:35 <rwhitby> Spanska: there is not
Sep 24 05:13:46 <Spanska> I just need the packageURL actually
Sep 24 05:13:59 <rwhitby> EricBlade: luckily, since I live in Australia, I don't need to deal with them or their opponents :)
Sep 24 05:14:17 <EricBlade> rwhitby: i'm sure that Australia has their equivalents.
Sep 24 05:14:53 <rwhitby> we do, but nowhere near as extreme.
Sep 24 05:15:53 <EricBlade> you don't have people that make their entire point in life apparently to be anti-gay or anti-gambling or anti-something that people do in their homes
Sep 24 05:18:01 <lonequid> i devote my life to be anti-anti
Sep 24 05:18:59 <rwhitby> EricBlade: we do, but they don't get into office, cause we force everyone to vote, so it's not just the people with an agenda who decide who gets into power.
Sep 24 05:19:33 <Xuzz> the whole forcing people to vote thing was probably the strangest concept to me about australia
Sep 24 05:19:53 <rwhitby> the large majority of people who couldn't care less are extremely good at spotting people with an extreme agenda and not voting for them when forced.
Sep 24 05:20:35 <dwc-> forcing people to go to the polls doesn't force them to vote
Sep 24 05:21:07 <dwc-> but I'm sure since people are already there, most people will just finish it
Sep 24 05:21:23 <rwhitby> dwc-: agreed. not voting once you get there is a valid conscious decision
Sep 24 05:21:46 <dwc-> as is a blank ballot, an invalidated ballot, etc
Sep 24 05:21:55 <SineOt> Xuzz: they would have contacted you via email if you were eligible
Sep 24 05:22:03 <Xuzz> ah, okay
Sep 24 05:22:33 <SineOt> Xuzz: apparently if you ordered inside the first "batch" on Sunday the 21st but didn't receive a device and had it cancelled they had a limited stock of 32s you could purchase, limit one per cancelled order
Sep 24 05:25:05 <Xuzz> ah
Sep 24 05:31:19 <eighthree> \o/
Sep 24 05:34:44 <bnceo> friend got 5 TPs from PC Richards
Sep 24 05:34:53 <bnceo> ordered is on the 20th. Just came in last week.
Sep 24 05:35:06 <SineOt> cool
Sep 24 05:35:11 <bnceo> dude is a MAC/iOS fanboy. he's falling in love with webos every day
Sep 24 05:35:14 <SineOt> I'm still trying to track down a second :C
Sep 24 05:35:21 <CTLAdvance> QQ - Can we send an email from within an app
Sep 24 05:35:25 <bnceo> I got the last on in my home county. haha
Sep 24 05:35:42 <CTLAdvance> Say ask the user to fill out the body
Sep 24 05:35:53 <bnceo> btw, any early adopters here still got $$ left from the $50 app credit?
Sep 24 05:36:10 <bnceo> I got $10 left and I'm saving it for Graphite and anything else that comes about
Sep 24 05:38:11 <CTLAdvance> I have ~40 left
Sep 24 05:39:43 <rwatkins> CTLAdvance: you can compose a message and launch Email, but you cant send it w/o user interaction.
Sep 24 05:40:15 <CTLAdvance> ah ok, I was hoping I could have them click send or something, which is fine
Sep 24 05:40:16 <rwatkins> you can connect to your own service to send email but then its not coming "from" that user.
Sep 24 05:40:34 <CTLAdvance> yeah
Sep 24 05:40:44 <CTLAdvance> Ill just have it pop open their email
Sep 24 05:41:26 <rwatkins> you can pop it open and pre-fill the fields - to/subject/body - they then just click 'send'.
Sep 24 05:59:03 * PatrickC is an official contributor on WOR and MR!!! :D
Sep 24 05:59:12 <halfhalo> lol
Sep 24 05:59:30 * PatrickC needs to find something to write about
Sep 24 06:00:34 <PatrickC> "BREAKING: halfhalo is *insert something here*"
Sep 24 06:01:25 <SineOt> Meg Whitman's failed California governor campaign? P:
Sep 24 06:01:45 <PatrickC> hey SineOt
Sep 24 06:01:53 <SineOt> hey
Sep 24 06:01:55 <PatrickC> how's the boxee remote coming?
Sep 24 06:02:29 <SineOt> the released version is fine and dandy and has been for ages :p
Sep 24 06:02:35 <PatrickC> lol
Sep 24 06:02:36 <SineOt> any Enyo port is, well… when I get a Touchpad
Sep 24 06:02:43 <PatrickC> someone needs to make a Roku app
Sep 24 06:03:02 * PatrickC 's pre3 should arrive today or monday :)
Sep 24 06:03:43 <halfhalo> lol
Sep 24 06:05:31 <PatrickC> SineOt: did you go thru onsale and get your tp?
Sep 24 06:07:27 <SineOt> she did
Sep 24 06:07:33 <SineOt> my orders have all been bum :p
Sep 24 06:08:10 <halfhalo> awww yeah.  tom & jerry
Sep 24 06:10:26 <SineOt> halfhalo: good American ones, or crappy Hungarian ones? XD
Sep 24 06:10:41 <halfhalo> old school american
Sep 24 06:13:11 <torchie_> the hungarian ones are hilarious
Sep 24 06:13:15 <torchie_> with the whatcha callit
Sep 24 06:13:17 <torchie_> marimba music
Sep 24 06:13:26 <torchie_> steel drums
Sep 24 06:17:10 * PatrickC hates sprint 
Sep 24 06:17:19 <PatrickC> can't keep me with a working phone
Sep 24 06:18:37 <halfhalo> lol
Sep 24 06:26:55 <PatrickC> phone sends text while roaming
Sep 24 06:27:09 <PatrickC> but not while on their network...
Sep 24 06:32:03 <halfhalo> hah
Sep 24 06:33:27 <PatrickC> bbl
Sep 24 06:46:02 <riskish> when linking to the enyo file on your desktop, will the path "c:\program files\hp webos\....\...\enyo.js" work?
Sep 24 06:49:27 <Shadyman> I think it has to be a relative path
Sep 24 06:49:55 <Shadyman> so ../../../program files/hpwebos/ ... / ... /enyo.js
Sep 24 06:50:58 <riskish> hmm okay, I tried that as well
Sep 24 07:00:54 <eighthree> hi guys
Sep 24 07:07:19 <PatrickC> hey
Sep 24 07:09:00 <EricBlade> well, that's interesting.  the weather app that was up on the free apps thing today, apparently is able to start itself on device startup. i didn't think that was possible for some reason
Sep 24 07:11:22 <rwhitby> Activity Manager supports that
Sep 24 07:48:22 <eighthree> hey pakl
Sep 24 07:48:24 <eighthree> PatrickC:
Sep 24 08:19:28 <PatrickC> eighthree: hey sorry
Sep 24 08:19:34 <eighthree> np
Sep 24 08:19:54 <PatrickC> been working on my dads sprint pre2 :)
Sep 24 08:20:36 <PatrickC> how's it goin?
Sep 24 08:20:51 <PatrickC> eighthree: you have any published apps/near published?
Sep 24 08:20:59 <eighthree> nop
Sep 24 08:21:08 <PatrickC> ok
Sep 24 11:18:05 <jhojho> oh joy! my $199 touchpad showed up
Sep 24 11:18:08 <jhojho> ka6sox: ping
Sep 24 11:18:24 <jhojho> we need to figure out a place to meet up.
Sep 24 11:18:32 <jhojho> im driving down to newport beach monday
Sep 24 11:18:40 <jhojho> leaving norcal at noon
Sep 24 11:19:06 <jhojho> so need to figure out a good place to meet
Sep 24 11:19:38 <jhojho> lmk while I try to figure out how to switch hotels with a giant box.
Sep 24 11:25:02 <ajay> jhojho: congrats!  oh what a coincidence, i just tried to ping him too :)
Sep 24 13:52:33 <siestacat> any VBA for the pixi?
Sep 24 13:52:41 <siestacat> I'm oc to 800mhz
Sep 24 14:30:26 <riskish> morning.
Sep 24 14:32:09 <siestacat> so no gba emu for pixi?
Sep 24 15:08:55 <siestacat> is android on pre ok to run on pixi?
Sep 24 15:10:38 <seretogis> morally? no :)
Sep 24 15:16:29 <siestacat> physically?
Sep 24 15:17:49 <hotdp> i don't see why
Sep 24 15:34:48 <akanster`> today's google doodle is sweet!
Sep 24 15:42:49 <hotdp> ye ri like the red monster eating the other
Sep 24 15:53:51 <HattCzech> dawm_: you around?
Sep 24 15:54:23 <HattCzech> or anyone else that has turned their pre- into a pre2 on sprint?
Sep 24 17:03:10 <Ziomatrix> does anyone else have an issue with missing the ability to add custom ringtones to contacts after doctoring to the latest version of 1.4.5x from 1.3x?
Sep 24 17:11:08 <Ziomatrix> whats a patching I can use to set custom ringtones for calls in contacts?
Sep 24 17:23:06 <Ziomatrix> I'm just wondering if its normal to be missing the ability to set ringtones in contact or is it something I should probably re-doctor my phone over.
Sep 24 17:23:42 <Ziomatrix> I can't even install the SMS Per Contact Patch because its missing the original destination
Sep 24 17:39:45 <riskish> anyone know of a good tutorial for playing short sound clips using enyo
Sep 24 17:41:40 <EricBlade> riskish: audio kind ?
Sep 24 17:49:46 <riskish> ericblade: I've read mixed things about sound with enyo. I read that it won't work in the emulator does audio kind do that? also even just read a forum post saying you need to use node.js to do audio with enyo.
Sep 24 17:59:32 <rwatkins-afk> how would you use node.js for audio?
Sep 24 18:00:06 <riskish> https://developer.palm.com/distribution/viewtopic.php?f=109&t=18116&start=0
Sep 24 18:02:45 <rwatkins> thats a hybrid solution not a node.js solution
Sep 24 18:03:32 <thisisit> hello, i uploaded an app recently to hp store. and awaiting the approval. when i uploaded, i checked the devices pre and pixi but didn't check touchpad. so will the app be available for touchpad in emulation mode, or should i add touchpad to the list too?
Sep 24 18:03:50 <rwatkins> unless I'm completely missing the solution proposed.  dunno why that post mentions node.js
Sep 24 18:04:04 <riskish> yeah im confused all around now. haha.
Sep 24 18:04:28 <rwatkins> the thread he links to us creating a plugin for a hybrid app solution for playing audio.
Sep 24 18:04:37 <rwatkins> s/us/is/
Sep 24 18:08:31 <riskish> so does enyo's sound function work in the emulator?
Sep 24 18:19:55 <thisisit> anyone know?
Sep 24 18:45:36 <EricBlade1> yay, gvoice is finally back. anyone who had it please update, and service should be functional again
Sep 24 18:47:03 <dwc-> it was broken? :P
Sep 24 18:48:20 <EricBlade1> uh.. ok, weird.  can anyone locate GVoice in the app catalog?  Not only am I showing that it should be back on my Apps list, but I also have a couple dozen downloads showing for it .. and I can't even find it
Sep 24 18:56:52 <Caleb> EricBlade1: ill check
Sep 24 18:58:08 <Caleb> EricBlade1: i see it in the catalog
Sep 24 18:58:24 <EricBlade1> gvoice, not gv text?
Sep 24 18:59:15 <Caleb> gvoice
Sep 24 18:59:22 <Caleb> i see erica blade as the dev
Sep 24 18:59:26 <Caleb> i mean eric
Sep 24 18:59:28 <Caleb> heh
Sep 24 18:59:38 <Caleb> version 0.9.3
Sep 24 19:06:27 <EricBlade1> cool, thank you. wonder why i can't see it
Sep 24 19:07:34 <divStar> maybe if you have it installed yourself it doesn't appear in the app catalog then?
Sep 24 19:18:09 <dwc-> no, it does... and then it says 'Launch'
Sep 24 19:19:19 <divStar> ah ok
Sep 24 19:27:13 <akanster`> Launch, even
Sep 24 19:42:19 <EricBlade1> Caleb: where are you located, and what device?
Sep 24 19:42:44 <Caleb> i have a touchpad
Sep 24 19:42:47 <Caleb> and im in the us
Sep 24 19:43:33 <EricBlade1> aha! now it's back in
Sep 24 19:43:40 <Caleb> heh
Sep 24 19:43:42 <Caleb> good
Sep 24 19:44:55 <EricBlade1> now if i can get my review that i put up while the suspend request was delayed to go away
Sep 24 20:39:28 <EricBlade1> hmm. no one has created a webos facebook page
Sep 24 21:54:20 <CTLAdvance> Anyone know what the going rate of a sprint pre 2 is
Sep 24 21:54:46 <seretogis> are you selling or buying?
Sep 24 21:55:41 <CTLAdvance> are you buying or selling
Sep 24 21:55:53 <CTLAdvance> :)
Sep 24 21:55:56 <seretogis> neither, though I know someone who may be interested
Sep 24 21:56:00 <CTLAdvance> I will be selling
Sep 24 21:56:16 <seretogis> cool, let me know what you're asking for it and I'll pass it along to her
Sep 24 21:56:27 <CTLAdvance> I have the veer now, and I am also on ATT, so it comes ready for sprint.
Sep 24 21:56:44 <seretogis> she's using a Pre- on Sprint and was weeping openly at my Pre 3 ;p
Sep 24 21:56:48 <seretogis> but loyal to Sprint
Sep 24 21:57:39 <CTLAdvance> Let me just make sure that this is in as good a shape as I think it is
Sep 24 21:57:42 <CTLAdvance> it should be mint
Sep 24 21:57:48 <seretogis> ;D
Sep 24 21:58:40 <CTLAdvance> oh yeah, I took good care of this baby
Sep 24 21:58:50 <CTLAdvance> after I bastardized my Pre-....
Sep 24 21:59:41 <PsWii60> bastid
Sep 24 22:00:37 <CTLAdvance> Its to bad, if only palm was able to opt webOS to run on this hardware... things would have turned out much better.
Sep 24 22:02:31 <CTLAdvance> I really need to put this veer on one of my lines
Sep 24 22:02:35 <CTLAdvance> its so small...
Sep 24 22:03:21 <CTLAdvance> Anyone want a sprint Treo 700 WX?
Sep 24 22:25:34 <wrea> I wish I had my Veer
Sep 24 22:26:03 <wrea> Hopefully it'll get sent back to me at the start of the week
Sep 24 22:27:45 <wrea> They dont seem to update the status ever either
Sep 24 22:43:53 <sanesto123> Hello, I installed ubuntuchroot on my hp touchpad inside webos, and i'm wondering if there is a way to be able to connect ssh to that ubuntuchroot, The problem is that ubuntuchroot have the same ip as the webos, is there a solution for that? thank you
Sep 24 23:34:25 <akanster> http://www.engadget.com/2011/09/24/pre-3-for-atandt-review/
Sep 24 23:36:46 <eighthree> ATT Pre 3 Unlocks available now
Sep 24 23:36:51 <eighthree> on Digital Unlock :B
Sep 24 23:37:08 <eighthree> Erica Blade
Sep 24 23:37:09 <eighthree> XDDD
Sep 24 23:42:48 <rwatkins> my real disappointment is that enyo on the pre3 is still half baked and likely will stay that way.
Sep 24 23:43:11 <rwhitby> can an enyo app touch a file in /media/internal without needing a node.js service?
Sep 24 23:44:03 <rwatkins> enyo is pure js, so it can do / cant do anything that was there before.
Sep 24 23:44:35 <rwatkins> its a limitation of whatever exposed by webkit in that OS version.
Sep 24 23:45:28 <rwatkins> all they did was rewrap some of the existing services exposed to mojo before
Sep 24 23:46:56 <rwatkins> ugh.  so input tags on webOS 2.2 ... dont fire onkeypress for the return key.
Sep 24 23:47:02 <rwatkins> lovely.
Sep 24 23:47:42 <rwatkins> there goes 'type and hit return' to search.
Sep 24 23:48:05 <rwhitby> ok, let me rephrase. has anyone found an enyo-accessible webOS API that allows an empty file to be created in /media/internal
Sep 24 23:48:16 <rwhitby> (without using a node.js or other service)
Sep 24 23:49:49 <rwatkins> rwhitby: no.  and if there was it would not be enyo-specific.
Sep 24 23:50:13 <rwatkins> it would be os-version specific.
Sep 24 23:50:49 <rwhitby> download manager can put stuff in /media/internal, right?
Sep 24 23:52:50 <rwatkins> yes
Sep 24 23:52:57 <rwatkins> https://developer.palm.com/content/api/reference/services/download-manager.html
Sep 24 23:53:03 <rwatkins> targetDir
Sep 24 23:53:10 <rwatkins> The local directory to save the file. This directory must be beneath /media/internal and defaults to /media/internal/downloads if not specified.
Sep 24 23:54:39 <rwhitby> hmm - that would require an active network connection though.
Sep 24 23:55:38 <rwhitby> looks like I need to write a service.
Sep 25 00:12:11 <ajay> i'm here?  oops :)
Sep 25 00:16:19 <ajay> ohh that's the webOS gvoice app dude.. oh that reminds me i need to look up connor's twitter to see what's up w/voogle
Sep 25 00:17:12 <ajay> weird my touchpad is going into exhibition mode using the standard wall charger.. hrmm..
Sep 25 00:18:20 <wrea> hey ajay
Sep 25 00:19:25 <ajay> wrea: hey.. i just sent my pre+ in that touchpad box, i wrote the other address below the wrong address, the ups guy looked at it funny, and i walked out the store.  bad things might happen ;^|
Sep 25 00:19:57 <wrea> Support gave the the runaround on Wednesday
Sep 25 00:20:18 <ajay> i wonder if engadget will review the vzpre3 next! (horrible disclaimer they put on the att one!)
Sep 25 00:20:25 <wrea> First said it was being shipped to El Paso, then turned around and said its being repair in Pharr
Sep 25 00:21:05 <wrea> The status has been updated either
Sep 25 00:21:26 <ajay> is digitalunlock really the best? they seem more expensive.. i found a couple of veer/pre3 unlocking sites, but can't remember their names now (doh for not using bookmarks)
Sep 25 00:21:31 <ajay> wrea: sucks..
Sep 25 00:21:52 <wrea> Yeah, so hopefully I'll see the thing again
Sep 25 00:22:28 <jaf0> rwhitby: question about the whole node.js thing.
Sep 25 00:22:29 <wrea> I'm waiting on some cables to test host mode
Sep 25 00:23:06 <wrea> Trying to find a usb wifi card that I can get monitor mode enabled with for kismet
Sep 25 00:23:26 <jaf0> to read a file (XML or text) from /media/internal I need to write a node.js service, right?
Sep 25 00:26:36 <dawm_> lame..
Sep 25 00:26:43 <dawm_> 336 of 5724 songs uploaded
Sep 25 00:29:39 <ajay> anyone know the status of voogle? oh found it in github, interesting..
Sep 25 00:30:10 <dawm_> yeah he opensourced it i believe
Sep 25 00:31:05 <ajay> is it just me or did we go from 2 precentral apps in the catalog to 0?  I doctored and it didn't come back, nor can i find it..
Sep 25 00:31:53 <dawm_> homebrew i believe
Sep 25 00:31:57 * ajay pre2 is still a bit bug-riddled post-doctor .. :(  maybe i need a profile purge and more..
Sep 25 00:32:42 <sugardave> haeffb: Tigers lookin' good so far
Sep 25 00:34:27 <haeffb> woohoo!
Sep 25 00:34:38 <ajay> hmm, wondering if digitalunlock's pre3 unlock will cover the vz pre3..
Sep 25 00:38:18 <ajay> damnit, everytime i middle click in WOR, it opens a new tab AND opens the link in the current tab.  I can't even remember another website that does that i've seen in my life! grr
Sep 25 00:39:28 <dawm_> dont middle click then
Sep 25 00:39:46 <oil> hit: do it on the "continue reading" button?
Sep 25 00:41:52 <ajay> dawm_: you're a regular comedian.. buggy website aren't solved by changing my behavior :)
Sep 25 00:42:02 <dawm_> sure they are
Sep 25 00:42:04 <ajay> oil: same thin
Sep 25 00:42:26 <objectconstant> they tried putting a shock feedback into devices to correct the users responses to buggy websites. Didn't go far
Sep 25 00:44:41 <ajay> post-layoffs is a _little_ late for zd+PC (and maybe WOR too?)to be pushing a pressure campaign.. can't hurt tho
Sep 25 00:49:20 <ajay> are all of these open sourced apps going to make it into preware? (phnx, etc)
Sep 25 01:45:38 <dawm_> so i added this 16gb usb stick.. set it up soley as a ReadyBoost drive.. no noticable difference.. lame
Sep 25 01:59:25 <objectconstant1> hmm
Sep 25 01:59:35 <objectconstant1> dawm_: what kinda computer do you have
Sep 25 02:00:05 <dawm_> not sure how to answer that, but its a dell
Sep 25 02:01:54 <objectconstant1> speed, memory,
Sep 25 02:01:56 <objectconstant1> processorrr
Sep 25 02:02:05 <objectconstant1> etc
Sep 25 02:02:28 <objectconstant1> If you have a fast computer already, you won't see much difference with speedboost
Sep 25 02:02:36 <objectconstant1> if any difference
Sep 25 02:02:56 <ka6sox> speed: 1.023mhz, 64k, 6502
Sep 25 02:03:18 <dwc-> 6502s has no usb
Sep 25 02:03:59 <dawm_> oh, its a Intel C2D E4500 (2.2Ghz), 2GB ram
Sep 25 02:04:45 <rwatkins> irc'ing from an AppleIIe there, ka6sox ?
Sep 25 02:05:06 <ka6sox> ][+
Sep 25 02:05:08 <objectconstant1> apple II GE!
Sep 25 02:05:09 <objectconstant1> lol
Sep 25 02:05:49 <dawm_> stupid gmail extension ..
Sep 25 02:06:02 <rwatkins> sportin that fancy upper AND lower case i see too
Sep 25 02:06:03 <dawm_> doesnt work with my gmail accts but works with my gmail hosted accts..
Sep 25 02:06:10 <dawm_> this is why i never update firefox
Sep 25 02:06:16 <dawm_> always breaks stuff
Sep 25 02:06:29 <objectconstant1> er, gs not ge
Sep 25 02:07:30 <dwc-> my friend in elementary school's dad designed the ][gs
Sep 25 02:08:33 <dawm_> i bet google music uploading doesnt help my performance either
Sep 25 02:08:44 <dawm_> 461 of 5724
Sep 25 02:09:41 <dwc-> http://www.flickr.com/photos/nda/4354413802/
Sep 25 02:10:34 <ajay> oops almost left this thing logged in again :)
Sep 25 02:11:05 <objectconstant1> heh
Sep 25 02:11:39 <ajay> i'll have to come back later to ask about metadoctor backup, cuz it aint workin.. ttfn!
Sep 25 02:11:54 <dwc-> that's funy
Sep 25 02:12:11 <dwc-> he notices, when he has to leave, that he's still logged in
Sep 25 02:12:26 <objectconstant1> I don't even bother with logging in or logging out or anything
Sep 25 02:12:28 <objectconstant1> heh
Sep 25 02:12:45 <dwc-> I mean, if I have to leave, I don't check to see if I'm logged in... I just leave
Sep 25 02:12:51 <objectconstant1> yeah
Sep 25 02:12:53 <rwatkins> screen ftw
Sep 25 02:13:01 <objectconstant1> wait, I have to boot my machine again, grumble
Sep 25 02:13:04 <ajay> i run BX in screen, so i forget about it even when i'm in front of the comp :)
Sep 25 02:13:12 <ajay> rwatkins: i think in my case it's ftl ;^)
Sep 25 02:13:17 <rwatkins> heh
Sep 25 02:13:43 <ajay> if only i couldn't multitask so effectively that i didn't even know/realize/remember i was doing it, life could be better(?) :)
Sep 25 02:14:21 <ajay> life should be like QNX on the playbook, everything else stops when you switch tasks.  That'd be, SO helpful.  (Though sometimes this channel stops when i do want to do it, so that'd have to be addressed too :)
Sep 25 02:14:35 <rwatkins> my prime apple exposure was during the 'dark years' of the LC, Quadra, etc.  bleh.
Sep 25 02:14:45 <ajay> ok really going now.. ;^)
Sep 25 02:14:57 <objectconstant1> everything stops
Sep 25 02:15:00 <objectconstant1> life stops
Sep 25 02:15:10 <objectconstant1> like, quantum something fancy, switcher of the tasks
Sep 25 02:57:16 <PatrickC> hey all
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