**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Sun Oct 02 02:59:57 2011 Oct 02 03:07:44 it's quiet in here Oct 02 03:14:28 yeah Oct 02 03:19:03 * DougReeder nods Oct 02 03:30:35 Anyone have a Pre 3 for me :D Oct 02 03:30:43 nope Oct 02 03:37:03 hello, I was hoping to see how I can enable SprintTV on a Franken Pre 2. I did some searching, but couldn't find the info. I did this FrankenPre2'ing a few months ago... Oct 02 04:01:06 double you tee eff Oct 02 04:01:25 ? Oct 02 04:02:27 power outage Oct 02 04:02:29 entire neightborhood is down Oct 02 04:02:40 I may be sitting in my front lawn with a laptop and phone though Oct 02 04:02:45 lol Oct 02 04:05:03 the closest att tower is down as well... so getting like no signal Oct 02 04:05:11 karma Oct 02 04:05:36 WHY DOES IRC WORK BUT NOT TWITTER?!?!? Oct 02 04:06:31 persistent connection ftw Oct 02 04:06:57 do you know Oct 02 04:06:59 what irc IS Oct 02 04:07:12 irc is chat over tcp Oct 02 04:07:25 WHY DO YOU HATE ME INTERNETS Oct 02 04:07:29 yeah but what IS irc Oct 02 04:07:37 AND OR VARIOUS INTERNET PROTOCOLS Oct 02 04:08:30 torchie_: a wretched hive of scum and villainy? Oct 02 04:08:42 a miserable pile of secrets Oct 02 04:08:49 PLAN B IT IS Oct 02 04:15:11 uggg Oct 02 04:15:14 internets are not help Oct 02 04:15:37 can you resolve any domains? Oct 02 05:31:34 lonequid: he's trolling Oct 02 05:34:02 :< Oct 02 05:38:27 * halfhalo pets his ups as it charges up again Oct 02 05:40:40 * akanster 's UPS is only for his modem & router Oct 02 05:41:01 when all hell breaks loose, I'll still have reddit! Oct 02 05:42:29 lol Oct 02 05:43:11 my laptop+cellphone = my UPS Oct 02 05:59:30 anyone know why a doctor won't recognize my touchpad when i plug it in? Oct 02 06:12:15 HattCzech: nova term issues? Oct 02 06:39:06 works on the other touchpad :/ Oct 02 06:40:17 I can build a PDK plugin for the emulator without having to fiddle with cross compile environments, right..? Oct 02 06:46:33 yes Oct 02 06:46:41 well, assuming you have a 32-bit toolchain Oct 02 06:47:12 It's kind of hard to track down what all I need to build for device. Oct 02 06:59:23 apparently the reason was because i didn't have dev mode enabled Oct 02 07:01:04 and with that, i am heading to bed Oct 02 08:00:42 Don't know if they're common or just one off type things, but CVS has iPad cases in stock that have been on sale for about 4.99 the last few times I've gone by. Fit the TouchPad, leaves space for the camera and home button, and has the likeā€¦ Fold it to stand up type thing. Oct 02 08:38:13 every time i reboot my touchpad, it comes up in exhibition mode. wtf. Oct 02 09:25:53 who can help me use openvpn on the webos? thx Oct 02 12:49:07 morning all Oct 02 14:30:57 Is there any way I can force a div to be redrawn? I set innerHTML for a div but the CSS doesn't do it's job properly. If I push another scene then pop it I can see the div is redrawn and it looks fine but that doesn't seem to happen unless I do that. If I write something in the html file I'm fine too but I need it to be dynamic. Oct 02 15:19:33 pre 2 #2 is in the mail Oct 02 15:19:39 no clue what i'm going to do with it Oct 02 15:59:33 anyone in here play with html5 canvas much Oct 02 18:28:03 * halfhalo debates going headphone shopping Oct 02 18:33:00 getchoself some o dem Oct 02 18:33:03 audio technica m50s Oct 02 18:33:08 so i can experience them Oct 02 18:33:10 vicarious like Oct 02 18:33:27 for i am recovering from the breaking of my supposedly indestructible panasonic zirconias Oct 02 18:33:34 and poor Oct 02 18:33:38 Eh, I'm partial to shures Oct 02 18:33:50 Have the e4c's or whatever they got renamed now Oct 02 18:34:10 i was thinking of getting an SM-57 Oct 02 18:34:21 i like my etymotic research hf5's Oct 02 18:34:21 dunno if it would be good for recording a "string quartet" Oct 02 18:35:25 my issue is that my triple flange friggers are all gone :( Oct 02 18:35:42 using a set that i got from klipsh at ces last year :p Oct 02 18:35:47 whats triple flange like Oct 02 18:36:05 Triple's are too long IMO, and the aperture is too small Oct 02 18:36:24 http://www.meelec.com/MEElectronics_Original_Eartips_for_M11_Earphones_p/tipset2-balancedsound.htm Oct 02 18:36:31 Those rock. Oct 02 18:36:34 torchie_ http://www.amazon.com/Shure-EA306-Triple-Flange-Sleeves/dp/B000F657DY/ref=sr_1_84?ie=UTF8&qid=1317579949&sr=8-84 Oct 02 18:37:01 I'm rocking some $20 walmart KOSS in-ears Oct 02 18:37:05 sound of the century right there folks Oct 02 18:37:07 torchie_: mmmmmmmmm Oct 02 18:37:20 torchie_: I bet you can even hear the difference in 96k and 128k mp3's Oct 02 18:37:25 best damn thing in the ~20 range Oct 02 18:37:42 i have the replacement for these http://www.amazon.com/Shure-Isolating-Earphone-High-Definition-MicroSpeakers/dp/B000TV1O3M/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1317580504&sr=8-2 Oct 02 18:38:04 http://www.amazon.com/Panasonic-RP-HJE900-K-Zirconia-Earbud-Headphones/dp/B002R1MDQY Oct 02 18:38:13 this is what I had before they betrayed me :( Oct 02 18:38:25 torchie_: I had some KOSS "The Plug" for a few years.. Replaced 'em with a $60 pair of headphones and was blown away by what I could hear. Oct 02 18:38:27 then again they're the longest any pair of in-ears I've had lasted so i dunno Oct 02 18:38:43 torchie_: They betryed you? I have a pair of those now, they work great. Oct 02 18:38:48 they're awesome! Oct 02 18:38:56 but my right ear broke! Oct 02 18:38:57 I can't believe you could go from the HJE900's to KOSS. Oct 02 18:39:09 torchie_: Broke as in separated or the cable? Because of course the cable is replacable. Oct 02 18:39:10 heh... swapped the foam friggers on and i can't hear anything again... I like it Oct 02 18:39:16 the actual earpiece Oct 02 18:39:21 buuut I need to get me a new microphone cable now Oct 02 18:39:21 I got them because they were made from aluminum and artificial diamond and had replaceable cables Oct 02 18:39:25 torchie_: k, I've heard about that, although I heard epoxy worked. Oct 02 18:39:28 so I got some SA6 cables off the internet Oct 02 18:39:32 plugged em in Oct 02 18:39:36 also Oct 02 18:39:42 found out "oh god dammit, it's the ear itself" Oct 02 18:39:50 why the hell did I leave two sd cards in the damn case Oct 02 18:39:56 I forget what cables I have, but they're slightly longer and have some memory wire near the earpieces so over-the-ear works great with them. Oct 02 18:40:07 so now I'm debating between getting the m50s or Yet Another in-ear Oct 02 18:40:24 interesting.... Oct 02 18:40:42 torchie_: I want some really good open headphones, but I either work in close proximity with people or in noisy place, neither is very good for open headphones, so I stick with IEM's Oct 02 18:40:54 yeah that's my MO usually Oct 02 18:40:56 plugged mah headphones into the air and it apparently is now using the built in mic for noise canceling stuffs Oct 02 18:41:00 but supposedly m50 has good isolation Oct 02 18:41:36 * halfhalo needs to go find his zune now Oct 02 18:42:01 torchie_: I had some inexpensive Shure's before the HJE900's, they were quite good. the HJE900's cost me $95 but they were a reasonable step above the Shure's. Not mind blowing (like Koss to the Shure's) but worth it. Oct 02 18:42:07 my friend has this pair of alright sennheiser over-ears but they leak like hell Oct 02 18:42:32 torchie_: Some are designed to be open so they don't isolate, but a lot of time the isolation is the ear tip Oct 02 18:42:58 what shires war-- Oct 02 18:43:01 fuck you auto correct. Oct 02 18:43:02 what Oct 02 18:43:03 shures Oct 02 18:43:05 were they Oct 02 18:43:26 Oops, they were Seinheiser.. CX300 Oct 02 18:43:33 Cost me like... $30? Oct 02 18:43:40 oh my Oct 02 18:44:08 bah Oct 02 18:44:09 30 Oct 02 18:44:11 bah i say Oct 02 18:44:22 Quick look on amazon: $38 Oct 02 18:44:28 Maybe cheaper elsewhere or with digging Oct 02 18:45:04 And this point probably better models though, I got those like two years ago and they were 'last years' model Oct 02 18:45:13 eh... zune is to far away. touchpad with ze portal 2 soundtrack not so much Oct 02 18:45:32 They are pretty bassy.... if you like more neutral, like the HJE900's, they're boomy.. Although compared to the Koss, not boomy.. heh Oct 02 18:45:52 also, I was pretty impressed with shures warrenty Oct 02 18:46:21 I almost got some Head-Direct RE0's but they're FLAT neutral.. Not really for me, I like a bit of a V shape. I suppose I could EQ it to what I want, but.. Oct 02 18:46:42 sent them in due to one side breaking, the day they got them they called me up and said they were shipping me out a new pair overnight. Oct 02 18:46:42 I was considering the RE0s over the HJE900 Oct 02 18:46:46 but heard about the build quality Oct 02 18:47:15 The RE0's are really flat.. you gotta appreciate that going in. If you want any bass, they're not for you. Oct 02 18:47:21 Sub bass, that is.. Oct 02 18:52:02 * dwc- has e2c Oct 02 18:59:42 hey Oct 02 19:01:10 anyone could help with a service question? Oct 02 19:11:41 ramitos: only if it's an easy one :D Oct 02 19:12:04 sugardave: I think it is :-) Oct 02 19:13:06 sugardave: is there a way to the service sending data to the app, like for instance Oct 02 19:13:35 in a http server, in every request, the service sends data to the app Oct 02 19:13:55 you have to go the other way and subscribe to the service from the app Oct 02 19:14:14 and then the service can send responses and the app will get the data on the next subscription poll Oct 02 19:15:01 where I can find documentation about that? I need to make a service capable of that ;-) Oct 02 19:15:35 ramitos: for enyo or mojo? Oct 02 19:15:40 enyo Oct 02 19:15:44 okay Oct 02 19:15:51 so there's the simple service example Oct 02 19:16:01 in the "more-examples" folder in the SDK install dir Oct 02 19:16:08 and then that's about it :P Oct 02 19:16:31 you can look at the Mojo docs and sort of mangle the parameters and such to fit the PalmService call model for Enyo Oct 02 19:16:50 thank you ;-) Oct 02 19:16:58 I haven't done a whole lot with them, but good luck! :D Oct 02 19:18:05 I am creating a oauth2 service Oct 02 19:18:37 I jut need to send the code to the app when the http server receives the connection Oct 02 19:20:54 ah, awesome...you should post that somewhere when you get it working Oct 02 19:23:02 I will ;-) Oct 02 19:23:24 but first I will try another way ^^ Oct 02 19:54:04 hey all Oct 02 19:54:09 hey Oct 02 19:54:19 how's it goin? Oct 02 20:05:42 ok, anyone with a pre3 in here? that use it as a wifi only/de device. i.e. not activated? Oct 02 20:49:30 someone is complaining about clearview, and they edited their card size Oct 02 20:49:34 so it doesn't work Oct 02 20:50:59 lol Oct 02 20:52:35 http://twitter.com/#!/WAresdent/status/120600668951162880 Oct 02 21:34:10 #webOS to everyone ;) Oct 02 21:34:14 * NuttyBunny laughs Oct 02 21:36:05 OSWEGO Oct 02 21:36:53 NuttyBunny: is that code for "bye" ? Oct 02 21:37:49 dwc-: is like a joke insult, "huevos" in spanish Oct 02 21:38:41 brb, gotta power nap, I'm falling sleep :S Oct 02 21:39:06 Caffeine pills ftw Oct 02 22:06:37 has anyone figured out how to give a presentation (on a projector) using their TouchPad? is this even remotely possible? Oct 02 22:06:51 summatusmentis: splashtop? Oct 02 22:07:20 NuttyBunny: that still requires the remote end be connected to the projector Oct 02 22:07:30 which sort of defeats the purpose of using the TP Oct 02 22:07:42 summatusmentis: Ah, right :( Oct 02 22:07:55 I was sorta wondering about USB->VGA Oct 02 22:08:03 but afaik, that doesn't exist Oct 02 22:40:54 is possible to store data in a db with the service, and then read that data with the app? Oct 02 23:04:58 ramitos_: no Oct 02 23:06:40 rwatkins: not even with this https://developer.palm.com/content/api/reference/services/db8.html ? Oct 02 23:06:53 i havent used db8 Oct 02 23:08:04 oh, ok. thanks anyway ;-) Oct 02 23:13:20 Ok, I officially HATE the webOS webkit way of handling globalCompositeOperation. Totally inconsistent with chrome and a proper implementation :@ Oct 02 23:18:17 NuttyBunny: stick it to the man! Oct 02 23:20:29 I can't believe my eraser works perfectly in chrome but in webOS it leaves unerased lines. The only way to erase the remains is erasing over again with another stroke Oct 02 23:20:49 ah, I have an idea Oct 02 23:22:14 with webOS, "proper implimentation" is an undefined term Oct 02 23:22:25 implementation* Oct 02 23:24:33 hehehe.. yep, you spend half of the time developing on chrome, and the other half fixing webOS implementation issues Oct 02 23:24:52 that's the reason I went all TouchPad dev mode :D Oct 02 23:26:37 yep, i find it easiest to keep my pad connected via usb and just run straight from eclipse (or palm-run ;)) Oct 02 23:28:45 If you develop on-device, use luna-send -n 1 palm://com.palm.systemmanager/clearCache '{}' to reload the app :D Oct 02 23:35:26 heh, cool NuttyBunny Oct 02 23:36:10 yup, perhaps PuffTheMagic will implement that in TIDE for on-device app editing :) Oct 02 23:36:12 hi Oct 02 23:36:17 hi Oct 02 23:36:28 we went over this already Oct 02 23:36:35 whazzuuuup in the webOS world? Oct 02 23:36:44 NuttyBunny, put in a bug report so I remember Oct 02 23:37:50 hey, it was rwhitby-away who suggested it ;) but yes, I'll put it in the bug tracker Oct 02 23:38:02 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UDTZCgsZGeA Oct 02 23:39:33 :) Oct 02 23:57:45 the dog snores Oct 03 00:21:21 Heh, seeing people in QLD having issues with phones updating for Daylight Savings (QLD doesn't have it) and doing as much travel as I do, I've had an idea - a daemon that runs periodically and sets the timezone on the handset based on GPS coordinates. Oct 03 00:21:39 Since network timezones aren't reliable. Oct 03 00:25:42 Well, more correctly, use location services. Which in this hemisphere still means GPS. Oct 03 00:56:01 dangit. download fasterrrrr Oct 03 00:56:21 just dl'd kotor Oct 03 00:56:37 lol Oct 03 00:57:07 how DARE you?!?! Oct 03 00:57:27 how dare I? Oct 03 00:57:56 * Tibfib wishes he had halfhalo's speed Oct 03 00:58:04 2mbps is a pain Oct 03 00:58:21 everyone knows piracy is the same thing as downloading a car Oct 03 00:58:28 oh Oct 03 00:58:31 mac app store Oct 03 00:58:37 I don't pirate. Oct 03 00:59:48 bah Oct 03 00:59:51 thwarted again Oct 03 01:01:53 2 and a half hours left Oct 03 01:01:54 fof. Oct 03 01:02:14 * halfhalo pets his 25 down at home Oct 03 01:02:21 or my 8ish down over att Oct 03 01:03:07 dammit steam, why do you make it so easyto buy games Oct 03 01:08:07 all I want to do is play KOTOR Oct 03 01:08:17 I won't even want to play it by the time it finishes Oct 03 01:10:56 brb.. rebooting the TouchPad after 4 days :D Take That Windows!! Oct 03 01:20:11 hi Tibfib! Oct 03 01:20:22 hey dkirker! Oct 03 01:20:28 how are you? Oct 03 01:22:23 oops Oct 03 01:22:26 Tibfib: I am doing well. Testing some apps and working on Universe. Oct 03 01:22:39 nice, enyo version? Oct 03 01:22:44 both Oct 03 01:22:49 very nice Oct 03 01:22:52 gonna do tabs? Oct 03 01:22:57 I need to push 1.2.0 out the door before 2.0 Oct 03 01:22:58 Yeah! Oct 03 01:23:07 awesome Oct 03 01:23:14 I'll beta test it for you if you are looking for peeps Oct 03 01:23:22 make sure you can get it past the review team Oct 03 01:23:27 Sure! Oct 03 01:23:28 lol Oct 03 01:26:24 lol Oct 03 02:35:15 http://forums.precentral.net/hp-touchpad/302071-1-000-cards-open-once-apple-likes.html Oct 03 02:40:52 fxspec06: Then why the fuck does it say "close some cards" on my wifes touchpad _constantly_ Oct 03 02:47:15 because pickles **** ENDING LOGGING AT Mon Oct 03 02:59:57 2011