**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Mon Oct 03 02:59:57 2011 Oct 03 03:05:56 torchie_: PICKLES!? Oct 03 03:06:24 touchpad anything can't do right because pickles Oct 03 03:12:23 Dill or sweet? Oct 03 03:17:32 both Oct 03 03:17:35 * torchie_ ducks Oct 03 03:20:55 Khaytsus, i m gona try to make my app on webos Oct 03 03:21:01 lol, i just shut down pickup sports on webos -_- Oct 03 03:21:05 probably not a good move Oct 03 03:42:55 dkirker: ping Oct 03 03:43:01 hi Oct 03 03:43:35 universe... awesome :) Oct 03 03:43:37 used it today Oct 03 04:35:38 right....so i updated UberKernel, now my wifi doesnt work. what gives? Oct 03 04:38:12 Da|Mummy, Caveat Emptor Oct 03 04:39:01 that bastard, eh? Oct 03 04:43:13 for the lulz: http://teddziuba.com/2011/10/node-js-is-cancer.html Oct 03 05:01:11 hey IGNTNUNLMTD Oct 03 05:01:22 hey PatrickC_Away Oct 03 05:01:26 long time, no speak Oct 03 05:01:32 yeah Oct 03 05:01:40 pre3 is awesome :) Oct 03 05:01:47 jealous Oct 03 05:01:51 I want a Verizon one Oct 03 05:01:54 lol Oct 03 05:01:59 where did you get yours? Oct 03 05:02:03 * PatrickC_Away has an AT&T Oct 03 05:02:04 bought on eBay? Oct 03 05:02:10 yes Oct 03 05:02:26 how much you pay? Oct 03 05:03:37 http://www.engadget.com/2011/10/02/new-samsung-galaxy-tab-10-1-holder-comes-with-bike-attached/ Oct 03 05:08:15 I'm off to bed Oct 03 05:08:17 night all Oct 03 05:35:07 halfhalo: heh, this guy absolutely destroys node's arguments. Oct 03 05:35:27 until you read http://joshuakehn.com/2011/10/3/Diagnosis-No-Cancer.html Oct 03 05:36:11 saw that on HN. Oct 03 05:36:21 haven't read it yet Oct 03 05:54:56 howdy ladies Oct 03 06:26:21 hey guys Oct 03 06:26:29 hey babe ;D Oct 03 06:26:30 tried root installing Skype from pre3 eu doctor on my veer Oct 03 06:26:32 Cannot satisfy the following dependencies for com.palm.app.skype: Oct 03 06:26:32 skypem Oct 03 06:26:38 :( Oct 03 06:26:41 o hi seretogis Oct 03 06:27:11 hi eighthree Oct 03 06:27:25 hi wrea hows ur veer Oct 03 06:27:49 eighthree, it was supposedly shipped Oct 03 06:28:24 Woot! Oct 03 06:28:36 SRO was never ever updated Oct 03 06:29:16 SRO? Oct 03 06:29:35 The repair order number Oct 03 06:29:48 you can check the status online, supposedly Oct 03 06:30:36 ahh Oct 03 06:30:38 >< Oct 03 06:30:41 you know what skypem is? Oct 03 06:30:59 https://support.palm.com/eservice_enu/start.swe?SWECmd=Start&SWEHo=support.palm.com Oct 03 06:32:58 I dont, give me a pre 3 and ill magically know :P Oct 03 06:33:05 its for veer.. Oct 03 06:33:14 "eighthree: tried root installing Skype from pre3 eu doctor on my veer" Oct 03 06:33:31 eighthree, I dont have that either :P Oct 03 06:33:45 bah Oct 03 06:34:16 find skypem in the doctor too? Oct 03 06:36:03 http://o7.no/qMp7vu Oct 03 06:38:31 it installed Oct 03 06:38:38 but that dependancy isn't there Oct 03 06:39:30 hmm Oct 03 06:44:46 apparently is in usr/bin :p Oct 03 06:44:54 but.. do i just copy and paste the darn thing or.. Oct 03 06:46:13 well, is the package wanting it, or is an error you're getting on runtime? Oct 03 06:46:28 package is wanting it Oct 03 06:46:30 like a lover Oct 03 06:46:54 i guess you can try copying it Oct 03 06:59:02 mew Oct 03 07:00:06 eighthree: get the skypem package and install that first Oct 03 07:00:32 how do i install it rwhitby Oct 03 07:00:37 do i just copy it ? Oct 03 07:00:50 eighthree: what instructions are you following? Oct 03 07:01:04 i have both skypem and skypevalidator -- Oct 03 07:01:08 no instructions :P Oct 03 07:01:20 i just installed the iPK from euro pre3 Oct 03 07:01:24 from the root Oct 03 07:01:27 thats all i've done so far.. Oct 03 07:01:42 Warning: Cannot satisfy the following dependencies for com.palm.app.skype: Oct 03 07:01:42 skypem Oct 03 07:01:50 so i just got the skypem / skypevalidator files.. Oct 03 07:01:57 now not sure if i should just copy em over or what. Oct 03 07:03:38 how did you install the first ipk Oct 03 07:03:49 ipkg -force-depends install /com.palm.app.skype_1.1 Oct 03 07:03:50 -8.3_armv7.ipk Oct 03 07:04:05 force-depends is never a good idea Oct 03 07:04:19 so you have three ipks, one of which depends on the other two Oct 03 07:04:28 you have the solution in front of you Oct 03 07:05:02 hm lemme try :) Oct 03 07:05:36 so you're saying skypem is an ipk file? Oct 03 07:05:43 it doesn't seem to have an extension to it.. Oct 03 07:07:16 can't really rename Skypem into skypem.ipk .. Oct 03 07:09:45 rwhitby ping Oct 03 07:11:11 rwhitby, you are still making webos apps? Oct 03 07:11:12 heh Oct 03 07:11:22 hey.. any bay area folks in here now? Oct 03 07:11:28 not i :p Oct 03 07:11:30 hi ajay_ Oct 03 07:11:35 hi eight! Oct 03 07:12:06 meetoman: why would I not be. my phone works the same today as it did a month ago. Still does what I want it to do, and I can still make apps for the things it doesn't/ Oct 03 07:13:20 eighthree: skype and skypevalidator will be .ipk files when they come from legitimate places, yes. Oct 03 07:13:30 i didn't realize the hulu fix stopped working. Oops! I regret suggesting the lnx switch earlier, maybe that could have been our backup plan.. or maybe they just got more sophisticated. eh! Oct 03 07:13:47 rwhitby: they're not in the doctor? sounds like a perfect use of some httpunzip action Oct 03 07:14:06 rwhitby: gotcha >:D gotta hunt them in the doctor again >o< Oct 03 07:14:10 ajay_: I have no idea what doctor you are referring to Oct 03 07:14:54 rwhitby: in that case i have no idea what you guys are referring to at all .. oops :) Oct 03 07:15:12 oh that reminds me i might have to fix a typo in the WOI wiki.. Oct 03 07:16:47 okay somebody already corrected my typo, cool. man that was a bad night for edits [for me], haha.. Oct 03 07:21:42 what is this skype/validator ipk you all speak of? is is it not something from the pre3 doctor? (and/or appcat) Oct 03 07:23:28 rwhitby: bleh i give up xD cannot find .ipk files for those two.. all i ever managed to find.. are files like this: http://o7.no/r3FuNl Oct 03 07:23:30 :X Oct 03 07:23:54 eighthree: where did you get the original skype .ipk from? Oct 03 07:23:57 is it porn? Oct 03 07:24:15 ;^) Oct 03 07:24:31 webs eu doctor -> wr -> com.palm.app.skype_1.1-8.3_armv7.ipk Oct 03 07:25:34 eu doctor for which device and version? Oct 03 07:26:03 for QWERTY 220 Oct 03 07:26:21 named: webosdoctorp220mantawr Oct 03 07:26:49 * ajay_ continues to be entertained by the name "manta!" Oct 03 07:27:21 eighthree: what's the diff btwn that and what's in the appcat? Oct 03 07:27:43 i have no clue. because i can't access that version :D Oct 03 07:27:48 it doesn't show up on the app catalog :X Oct 03 07:27:59 eighthree: look in /usr/lib/ipkg/info Oct 03 07:28:22 there you will see the control and list files for the packages which are part of the rootfs Oct 03 07:28:53 eighthree: you can't use impostah/ipkfetcher to get it? Oct 03 07:29:07 ajay_: no, also this is for the VEER not Pre3 Oct 03 07:29:59 http://o7.no/qGXxim <- this is what shows up rwhitby , sorry bare with my inabilities Oct 03 07:31:07 i assume that if one loads enyo on their non-pre3 phones skype should work, but i don't have a non-vz phone to test with atm.. :( Oct 03 07:31:43 well Skype is actually on the veer account settings area etc.. Oct 03 07:31:48 just not signing on Oct 03 07:31:49 x) Oct 03 07:34:20 eighthree: ahh.. yeah in the thread on PC http://forums.precentral.net/hp-pre-3/299966-skype-now-downloadable.html it sounded like there were very specific ways one had to go about getting the AppCat skype to work, dunno if those strategies apply to your situ or not.. Oct 03 07:34:35 oh i wonder if i can load skype+enyo onto my Pre+.. that sounds like a fun experiment :) Oct 03 07:34:51 i don't have access to the app cat Skype tho ;( Oct 03 07:40:24 eighthree: really? No tool you used would download it? i thought free ipks were easy to get.. Oct 03 07:40:47 huh how do i get it then.. Oct 03 07:42:30 oh ipk fetcher depends on the feeds.. haha shows how often i use that tool (never :) Oct 03 07:43:06 oh.. which feed do i want? Oct 03 07:43:06 lol Oct 03 07:43:09 hm, using impostah to d/l the 2.2 skype.. i wonder if you'd have to spoof device/OS ver too or .. Oct 03 07:43:26 zis is ridiculous Oct 03 07:43:30 want updates for my veery Oct 03 07:43:57 eighthree: I was just looking at me asking you if neither ipk fetcher nor impostah would work for you, then decided to explore the former, whcih seems unworkable Oct 03 07:44:05 but the latter.. Oct 03 07:44:13 lol Oct 03 07:46:52 eighthree: does that mean you haven't tried impostah? i'm confused..! Oct 03 07:52:21 uh what i can't. from the instructions Oct 03 07:52:22 it says Oct 03 07:52:26 "clean HP device" Oct 03 07:52:30 err "palm device" Oct 03 07:52:36 thats never had a store associated with it Oct 03 07:52:37 innit? Oct 03 08:43:39 weird i just got an email that hp's site has 32's avail at $250. (w/ screenshot) musta been a webmaster mistake.. Oct 03 08:45:35 I bought the touchpad just because I saw the cyagonemod project on the touchpad, but the more I use it the more I like webOS. hope someone purchase it off HPs hands. Oct 03 08:52:47 gtg Oct 03 10:48:04 hi, is any way to get request log from emulator ? Oct 03 12:03:06 does anyone know if you can use the microphone jack to hookup the touchpad to a TV just like you can with ipods and that microfone-RCA cable? Oct 03 12:05:12 ? Oct 03 12:16:58 is there a good file manager (that can also unzip) for the touchpad? Oct 03 12:57:12 moijk: as far I know jason robitaille is working on rar/zip application Oct 03 14:43:38 * oil_pre waits for cable guy Oct 03 14:44:52 * hotdp hopes it Jim Carrey Oct 03 14:45:23 that would be bad Oct 03 14:45:54 haha Oct 03 14:47:56 i'd call the cops if Jim Carrey showed up to my house Oct 03 14:48:32 not like they'd do anything... Oct 03 14:50:07 they'd ask for his autograph Oct 03 14:50:13 lol Oct 03 14:50:33 cable... thats that one thing with the friggers, right? Oct 03 14:54:25 well, not cable tv, internet Oct 03 14:54:31 ok, better Oct 03 14:54:38 more important then tv haha Oct 03 14:54:44 * halfhalo cable only because its either that or dial up Oct 03 14:55:20 but all the tv flows through directv Oct 03 14:57:04 it's all cables. everything is a freaking cable. unless it's wireless, in which case it'd be wireless. but mostly it's cables Oct 03 14:57:57 'everything is a freaking cable. unless its wireless' Oct 03 14:57:57 deep Oct 03 14:57:59 i think i just re-defined the term 'generic statement' Oct 03 14:58:30 heh... its amazing how much a directv bill is sometimes Oct 03 14:59:28 when I called to setup install appointment, the same speed is cheaper here then it was at my other house Oct 03 14:59:35 for no reason Oct 03 14:59:47 no reason I could tell Oct 03 14:59:57 hah Oct 03 15:00:15 apparently time warner now offers 50/5 where i live. which is tempting Oct 03 15:00:16 'directv reserves the right to add any charges to the bill it deems necessary to keep your service running' -- it's right there directly above where you signed Oct 03 15:00:33 directv / any company Oct 03 15:00:46 fxspec06 yup. but with directv theres always retention. Oct 03 15:00:50 haha I signed it 'fxspec06' though! Oct 03 15:00:58 crap! Oct 03 15:01:39 my VDSL is crap today Oct 03 15:01:43 which makes me sad Oct 03 15:01:47 it was great yesterday Oct 03 15:02:00 * halfhalo pets his work internet... its limited by the 100mb port in the wall Oct 03 15:02:38 lol Oct 03 15:03:13 lol Oct 03 15:03:38 if you want good internet, go to wall street. it's limited by your imagination Oct 03 15:04:31 i work on wall street, and my internet connection is much worse than at home. Oct 03 15:04:45 sitting at 75 Broad street right now .. its crap. Oct 03 15:05:41 the Time Warner 50/5 at home is much faster. Oct 03 15:08:51 omg, everyone be careful Oct 03 15:08:55 the end of the world is nigh Oct 03 15:09:01 I may actually get financing for this car Oct 03 15:10:18 911 gtr? Oct 03 15:10:55 nothing quite so fancy Oct 03 15:11:03 2006 Highlander Hybrid Oct 03 15:11:33 our 98 Suburban decided to crack its radiator and then the head, so time to upgrade Oct 03 15:14:11 my parents have one of those Oct 03 15:14:32 do they like it? reviews are pretty good Oct 03 15:14:46 I'm not sure what year theirs is, but yeah, overall they do Oct 03 15:14:57 this one is toyota certified, so I feel pretty good about it Oct 03 15:14:58 it's not the greatest for cross country trips with 6 people Oct 03 15:15:02 sure Oct 03 15:15:24 but yeah, I don't think they've had any problems with it Oct 03 15:15:55 wtf first BoA site was messing up.. now sprints.. cmon fuckers let me pay my bills Oct 03 15:16:29 if they don't wnat your money, that's their fault Oct 03 15:16:33 rwatkins: you work on wall street? Oct 03 15:16:39 THERE CAN ONLY BE ONE HIGHLANDER! Oct 03 15:16:41 have you been occupied? Oct 03 15:20:32 summatusmentis: yes, though not for the financial industry. Oct 03 15:21:05 its a total mess a block up, but fortunately my commute is two blocks from the subway just the other direction. otherwise I'd be pissed. Oct 03 15:23:11 oh, that's gotta be convenient Oct 03 15:23:42 so its october 3rd, monday and ... still no Pivot? Oct 03 15:24:11 when does it usually turn up? Oct 03 15:24:43 i would think the first of each month, but i suspect whenever they finish scrambling about. Oct 03 15:25:08 Otherwise labeling them "August", "September" etc was a bad idea. Oct 03 15:25:22 dev newsletter had some interesting snippets Oct 03 15:26:14 "They [developers] are seeing more than a 10x increase in sales in their apps over the last month and the momentum is even stronger this month." Oct 03 15:26:36 obviously in relation to touchpad firesale Oct 03 15:26:58 momentum strong, 10x increase short lived. Oct 03 15:27:41 I see about 3-4x from before the firesale. was like 20x at one point. Oct 03 15:29:15 no new apps have shown up since the 29th either Oct 03 15:30:56 my app just got published this morning - new version but not a new app Oct 03 15:31:43 hmm the top app under "new" shows the same from the 29th for me Oct 03 15:32:14 but hmm .. its new in "News" but not in "All". Oct 03 15:32:37 oh yeah i see it and it shows the 3rd Oct 03 15:32:44 it's important to realize that Oct 1 and 2 were on the weekend, and it's not yet "start of the business day" in CA Oct 03 15:33:13 was suprised to see a release on a Monday before I was even up EST. Oct 03 15:38:32 anyone going to SenchaCon 2011? Oct 03 15:39:20 no, but would now be useful since I'm doing a bunch of Sencha Touch development while Enyo remains closed. Oct 03 15:39:33 me2 ;) Oct 03 15:39:40 Let me know if you do, i will be there Oct 03 15:39:56 ya, unlikely its ... like in a few days, right? Oct 03 15:40:05 23 Oct 03 15:40:10 20 days Oct 03 15:40:47 what I need out of Sencha is not "more ways to possibly do X" but "avoid Y because it doesnt work when you do Z". Oct 03 15:41:49 my VDSL is speeding back up. youtube is usable again Oct 03 15:41:51 like WTF does the Segmented button toggle selection when you click thru each button, but then also "untoggle" if you press a button already pressed? broken. Oct 03 15:41:54 stupid BT Oct 03 15:42:24 rwatkins: the untoggle is kind of funny Oct 03 15:42:35 you have to code the funtionality yourself Oct 03 15:42:37 ya, not so funny when i have to go fix that broken shit. Oct 03 15:42:41 but i think 2.0 will be good Oct 03 15:42:54 or bolt on an MVC to the TabBar/TabPanel Oct 03 15:43:04 that is my number 1 problem Oct 03 15:43:10 And sadly Oct 03 15:43:23 They say its not "fixed" in 2.0 :S Oct 03 15:43:34 too busy coding up other "neato" features Oct 03 15:43:42 but i hope it was a lie to me.. Oct 03 15:44:16 its a framework developers playground, rather than a framework built to support their own real world apps. Oct 03 15:44:45 otherwise that stuff just wouldnt be broken. Oct 03 15:48:18 hello all Oct 03 15:51:38 hey guys, I have a quick question: how do you simulate hold events in the webOS 3.0 emulator? Oct 03 15:51:39 hi rsanchez1 Oct 03 15:53:44 rsanchez1: click the screen and hold down the mouse button Oct 03 16:27:46 rwatkins: that does not trigger the hold event, but thanks for the smartass comment Oct 03 16:34:21 rsanchez: it does, but its called 'onmousehold' Oct 03 17:20:12 hmm so onmousehold is the hold event eh Oct 03 17:20:19 good to know...... Oct 03 17:20:22 * fxspec06 writes it down Oct 03 17:24:13 hey eighthree Oct 03 17:24:37 as @SirKneeland points out though its often not particularly discoverable. Oct 03 17:25:48 hmmm Oct 03 17:26:23 the office wifi has a firewall which blocks access to most on-campus services, unless the service owners have asked ITS to whitelist it Oct 03 17:26:42 should I set up some kind of VPN connection? Oct 03 17:26:54 if I want to access office stuff on my Touchpad? Oct 03 17:31:34 nope it's not. i had no clue that was it Oct 03 17:59:16 Well, got the go-ahead on a PDK game/app/thing for the Touchpad to illustrate tablet development to students in a CS class. Oct 03 18:00:31 nice Oct 03 18:18:12 lol @ sprint Oct 03 18:18:27 http://twitter.com/#!/sprintcare/status/120924804579721216 Oct 03 18:19:31 psh just try it again Oct 03 18:20:01 yeah still no work.. and im not gonna *3 and type in my cc when i can just do it on their site.. fuckfaces Oct 03 18:20:18 clearly you can't do it on their site! Oct 03 18:20:24 did you try a different browser Oct 03 18:21:31 Adobe snatched up PhoneGap and TypeKit Oct 03 18:21:56 Now they just need Enyo and a killer cross platform framework will be born :) Oct 03 18:37:59 Damn driver isnt registering a new interface Oct 03 18:38:52 dawm: lol! Oct 03 18:40:12 http://www.bgr.com/2011/10/03/sprint-guarantees-to-buy-over-20-billion-in-iphones-from-apple-launching-the-iphone-5-exclusively/ Oct 03 18:42:56 sprint making a move? Oct 03 18:43:37 that's report is waaay out there.. Oct 03 18:43:40 wow wIRC is great! Oct 03 18:43:59 i don't see how it's not believable Oct 03 18:44:14 details of apple releases usually happen the day before the event Oct 03 18:44:31 i wouldn't be surprised if more details emerge later today Oct 03 18:46:05 penis Oct 03 18:46:34 dawm! Oct 03 18:47:17 fxspec06: didn't say it's not believable Oct 03 18:47:18 yay internets :) Oct 03 18:48:48 paying sprint by phone is annoying.. Oct 03 18:49:00 the automated service put me on hold while it charged my card! Oct 03 18:49:04 seriously? Oct 03 18:49:49 lemme guess Oct 03 18:49:53 they're trying to upsell you on something Oct 03 18:50:08 my bank does that when I'm "activating" my new cards Oct 03 18:50:22 http://www.iwonatmcd.com/ Oct 03 18:50:40 a whole $5 to walmart! Oct 03 18:52:19 dawm: That's like 7 spongebob pajamas! Oct 03 18:52:46 dawm: I keep wanting to parse that as iwo nat mcd ... Iwo National something.. Oct 03 18:53:28 kindle fire pre-orders are at 95,000! in other news, the HP touchpad fire sale orders are still hovering around 4 million Oct 03 18:54:14 fxspec06: wait, four MILLION actual touchpads were sold during firesale? Oct 03 18:54:21 1 million Oct 03 18:54:47 $100 for an actual device outsells $200 on a "device a bit later" - not a suprise. Oct 03 18:54:51 where's that number from? Oct 03 18:56:14 http://www.quora.com/How-many-Touchpads-were-made#answers Oct 03 18:59:38 won 30 coke points.. um yay.. Oct 03 19:00:09 hahaahh Oct 03 19:00:11 dawm: Oct 03 19:01:18 about 20 more codes to enter.. Oct 03 19:01:42 wish the entry thing wasnt so long and drawn out.. seriously takes 2minutes per code Oct 03 19:01:48 App idea! camera + OCR + enter codes! Oct 03 19:02:09 i guess Oct 03 19:02:11 wait, camera doesn't have AF :( Oct 03 19:02:13 its all flash based Oct 03 19:02:17 no not 4 million SOLD. 4 million people signed up to be notified when more are available Oct 03 19:02:33 hp said each sale would be honored Oct 03 19:02:47 those arent sales Oct 03 19:02:53 those are potential sales Oct 03 19:03:03 right, that's what i said Oct 03 19:03:32 but there were a lot of 'cancelled' sales. Oct 03 19:03:33 :S Oct 03 19:04:32 um yay.. another 30 coke points.. cmon Oct 03 19:07:20 wow Oct 03 19:07:29 people are paying almost $5 for parkplace game pieces on ebay.. Oct 03 19:08:34 http://www.ebay.com/itm/2011-Park-Place-McDonalds-Monopoly-Piece-/120788146008?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item1c1f88d758 Oct 03 19:09:03 time to sell mine then Oct 03 19:09:40 ive got like 8 .. Oct 03 19:09:44 40$! Oct 03 19:11:35 $40.51! Oct 03 19:13:16 wall street journal now reporting same iphone deal Oct 03 19:13:17 http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052970203405504576603053795839250.html?mod=e2tw Oct 03 19:14:52 Sprint is just now recovering from years of losing $$ & subscribers. Dan Hesse got balls tho if this is true. Oct 03 19:15:45 hasn't Sprint consistently bought into things that it thinks will be successful way bigger tahn it ought to? Oct 03 19:16:40 summatusmentis: Like Nextel? lol Oct 03 19:16:41 bet big, and if you're wrong you still get a big severace package. Oct 03 19:17:49 akanster: and wimax, to some extent Oct 03 19:18:18 aren't they going to switch it out to LTE Oct 03 19:18:38 eventually, but BGR was claiming that iPhone5 is wimax 4g Oct 03 19:34:09 2nd pre 2 just arrived! Oct 03 19:43:51 anyone familiar with freetether? Oct 03 19:44:33 yep Oct 03 19:51:00 can you assist me? Oct 03 19:51:15 I am having trouble attaining an ipv4 and v6 address Oct 03 19:51:25 I set up everything accordingly Oct 03 19:56:55 Huh. Oct 03 19:56:59 That's a bit beyond me Oct 03 19:58:46 lol Oct 03 20:13:36 What's the simplest way to remotely export contacts? My Palm Pixi Plus isn't working correctly (not detected by computer, ringtones not working, can't install Send All Contacts via Email), and I want to perform a reset of the device in order to hopefully fix the problem. Oct 03 21:13:34 haeffb: ping Oct 03 21:14:06 Mike9863: you can set the contacts to sync to google Oct 03 21:14:10 that might help Oct 03 21:14:20 PatrickC: How can I do that? Oct 03 21:14:41 go into contacts, preferences, set the default to your gmail Oct 03 21:15:09 Okay thanks Oct 03 21:17:19 * dwc- pets new shiny toy Oct 03 21:17:29 dwc-, what'd you get? Oct 03 21:17:52 dwc-: did ya get one?? what carrier???? :) Oct 03 21:17:55 I can't get my google apps account to sync Oct 03 21:18:04 summatusmentis: sync what? Oct 03 21:18:07 I'm on t-mobile Oct 03 21:18:08 it responds with "unknown error" Oct 03 21:18:18 PatrickC: with synergy? we're in #webos Oct 03 21:18:20 dwc-: aww.. gonna unlock it? Oct 03 21:18:37 summatusmentis: I was asking what specific part Oct 03 21:18:42 anything Oct 03 21:18:45 i.e. mail, chat, contacts, etc. Oct 03 21:18:46 it won't even login Oct 03 21:18:54 hmm.. mine all work fine Oct 03 21:19:01 I've never had an issue.... Oct 03 21:19:23 well, mine isn't working Oct 03 21:19:37 I think my otg setup is screwed Oct 03 21:19:41 can you add other accounts? Oct 03 21:22:01 PatrickC: I honestly haven't tried, I don't have other accounts to add Oct 03 21:22:16 I would make a dummy gmail account to test Oct 03 21:23:05 unlock what? Oct 03 21:23:12 the new toy? Oct 03 21:23:16 or what was it? Oct 03 21:23:22 summatusmentis does a reboot help? are you using a wireless network you don't usually use? Oct 03 21:25:30 ok, I should be clear. I'm trying to add a new google apps account Oct 03 21:25:35 it won't let me Oct 03 21:25:39 "unkown error" Oct 03 21:25:51 no, not on a different wireless network, no, reboot doesn't help Oct 03 21:26:15 are there any relevant lumberjack logs Oct 03 21:30:37 I'm a Lumberjack and I'm Okay Oct 03 21:31:02 speaking of which wtf happened to the Enyo version of Lumberjack? Oct 03 21:31:31 and wirc for that matter? Oct 03 21:31:49 * fxspec06 blames oil Oct 03 21:32:23 pains me to see small phone emulators and even rounded mojo components on my TP. Oct 03 21:33:44 PatrickC: =] Oct 03 21:34:38 pains me to continue using rounded mojo components on my pre 2('s) Oct 03 21:36:07 i can swallow it on my Pre3, because its scaled up in size, but just looks so out of place on the TP. Like trying to run some old Windows3.1 app on Win7. Oct 03 21:37:25 it's because of pixel density. remember the steve jobs letter 'A' presentation Oct 03 21:51:16 howdy Oct 03 21:54:56 hi Oct 03 21:55:36 dwc-: what? :) Oct 03 21:56:06 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2YpOw8o34BM&feature=player_embedded Oct 03 21:57:10