**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Fri Oct 07 02:59:58 2011 Oct 07 03:00:20 s/virtuality/virtuallist/ Oct 07 04:15:32 hey all Oct 07 04:16:15 Tibfib: updated nomnomnom beta Oct 07 04:16:24 I'll let you know if I run into any bugs Oct 07 04:19:11 titanium isn't very good at memory management when there is barely any memory to manage Oct 07 04:21:54 did you buy titanium? Oct 07 04:22:23 uhm i downloaded it for free. -.- Oct 07 04:22:38 ah, so you got the "lite" version? Oct 07 04:22:45 i have no idea Oct 07 04:22:49 i have titanium Oct 07 04:22:53 it was enough for me. but requires internet.. :/ Oct 07 04:23:00 not the lite version Oct 07 04:23:22 yep Oct 07 04:23:28 it needs internet to sign in Oct 07 04:23:33 and call to the servers Oct 07 04:23:42 unless its changed Oct 07 04:26:27 hey torchie Oct 07 04:31:38 twitter is broken Oct 07 04:31:46 snapped in half Oct 07 04:31:57 and can someone explain to me why my right knee hurts when i code. Oct 07 04:33:02 wow twitter is really really really down. Oct 07 04:38:40 I thought that was a property of twitter Oct 07 04:38:49 it can't be twitter without the downtime Oct 07 04:39:04 is that part of the startup motto of "fail fast"? Oct 07 04:39:11 fail fast, fail often! Oct 07 04:39:36 failing never fails! Oct 07 04:40:46 omg imagine all the people that went to bed when twitter whet down. oh the horror Oct 07 04:50:06 couldn't be the first time that happened Oct 07 04:52:56 aha. i made a free version of my game right, and i'm wondering why there's an error. well i had put in code to crash the game if someone tried to hack it so it was able to play... and er yeah Oct 07 04:53:06 lol Oct 07 04:54:02 lol sure enough, removing the line in question fixes my issue Oct 07 04:54:08 lovely Oct 07 04:54:24 another wasted hour of my life Oct 07 04:54:31 among many Oct 07 04:54:35 lol Oct 07 04:55:46 another example of why DRM is evil! Oct 07 04:55:47 :D Oct 07 04:56:29 lol, gee it's only a .99 app. heaven forbid i try to protect my work ;) Oct 07 04:57:03 shame on you! Oct 07 04:57:11 if I don't want to pay for it, I shouldn't have to! Oct 07 04:57:12 :p Oct 07 04:58:11 write me a letter and send via snail mail to my address and i may consider something special regarding your extraordinary circumstances Oct 07 04:58:41 no? Oct 07 04:58:48 thats effort Oct 07 04:58:52 pirates don't do effort Oct 07 04:58:54 heh, as if you'd give your address to halfhalo ... Oct 07 04:59:12 ^^ that too. unless you like suprises Oct 07 04:59:15 lol Oct 07 04:59:17 like rattlesnakes. Oct 07 04:59:37 i love rattlesnakes! especially when they are far far away from me Oct 07 04:59:57 or sharks with friggin lazer beams attatched to their heads. Oct 07 05:00:28 omg it's that time of night again. that time where i'm laughing at literally everything and i should probably go to bed Oct 07 05:00:42 I have been in that state for HOURS Oct 07 05:00:51 programming java does that to me. Oct 07 05:01:21 i've "just needed to package up this ipk" for about 4 hrs now Oct 07 05:01:50 Esp. when I could have done the entire app in javascript and canvas in like 2 hours. but instead spent the last 7 in java. Oct 07 05:02:11 always good to wait till way late at night when your very tired to put together than final production release. Oct 07 05:02:40 drunk-submitting is even more ideal Oct 07 05:03:46 there's nothing like submitting an amazing update when you're cocked, only to wake up and find out it really sucked Oct 07 05:03:58 I also decided that today WAS a good time to start the massive file transfer from my desktop to my backup server. Which means I don't get to go to sleep before its done in 3 more hours, because if I do, then i have to wait another like 7 hours tomorrow. Oct 07 05:04:22 fxspec06 those are called "suprise upgrade testing" updates Oct 07 05:04:35 it makes you see how well your upgrade/update system works Oct 07 05:05:05 lol Oct 07 05:05:38 * dwc- has fxspec06's poker app Oct 07 05:05:45 * dwc- didn't pay for it Oct 07 05:05:56 =O Oct 07 05:06:00 * dwc- never uninstalled the beta... Oct 07 05:06:13 (the one you emailed me waaaay back when) Oct 07 05:06:36 want a fartpad app? Oct 07 05:06:37 oh wow! which version number is that Oct 07 05:06:37 :D Oct 07 05:06:44 0.7.8 Oct 07 05:06:59 I should know this... it shows up on every boot and periodically as having an update in the catalog Oct 07 05:07:09 lol Oct 07 05:07:20 0.7.1 Oct 07 05:07:30 dwc-: just edit the appinfo.json to say 9.9.9 Oct 07 05:07:43 oh wow. you should feel privilaged to having such an incredible unreleased version Oct 07 05:07:50 guarantee its the best fart app for touchpad Oct 07 05:07:52 ;D Oct 07 05:07:58 yea, rwhitby, how could I be special with a 9.9.9 ;) Oct 07 05:08:02 farts pretty dang well Oct 07 05:08:10 lol riskish Oct 07 05:08:45 17+ fart noises and a spinning roulette fart wheel. doesn't get much better than that. Oct 07 05:08:56 I sell snake oil too. I'm here all night folks. Oct 07 05:08:57 i'm trying to package this ipk so i can upload it to a friend. i keep choosing the wrong file. Oct 07 05:09:20 i feel like i'm performing brain surgery Oct 07 05:10:07 herman cain is bizarro obama. Oct 07 05:10:19 riskish i still haven't used that promo code Oct 07 05:10:25 i'll try out your fartpad in a min Oct 07 05:10:44 oh, it's a treat. Oct 07 05:10:54 might I suggest you prepare to contain your excitement? Oct 07 05:11:24 GEE NO WONDER why i can't see anything. the screen resolution is higher than 1160 x 725 Oct 07 05:11:50 s/excitement/excrement/ Oct 07 05:13:11 lol Oct 07 05:14:24 rwhitby: it's a fart app not a crap app Oct 07 05:14:41 well, that's subjective, isn't it Oct 07 05:14:42 well, I did get a one star rating, perhaps that was a poor choice of words. Oct 07 05:14:46 what's the difference? Oct 07 05:14:58 and there is one fart noise described as "gotta go" Oct 07 05:15:08 oh, there's something for the whole family on this app. Oct 07 05:15:53 is there a 'guided missle' fart button Oct 07 05:17:25 no Oct 07 05:41:13 http://www.theinquirer.net/inquirer/news/2115048/hp-webos-printers Oct 07 05:42:21 swipe up to shred the document you just printed? Oct 07 05:43:30 Yes, we need farting printers Oct 07 05:44:19 duh Oct 07 06:22:44 lol Oct 07 07:03:53 hi Oct 07 07:05:21 hi Oct 07 08:46:07 hey Oct 07 09:18:14 hi does someone had tried playing music with veer through bluetooth? i had borrow a quality wireless stereo headset from a friend and i found the sound quality very crappy Oct 07 09:21:10 sounds like wrong bt profile Oct 07 09:21:29 but I do not own a veer Oct 07 14:11:11 so, sounds like Sprint is putting all their eggs in the iPhone basket Oct 07 14:28:31 certainly a bunch of them Oct 07 14:43:50 summatusmentis: if that story is true at all, it was about iphone 5, which they didn't even announce Oct 07 14:44:18 i think it would make a HUGE statement, giving android all of the credit in the world, if apple changed their entire release schedule and put 2 devices out in 1 year Oct 07 14:44:22 are you not following their "strategic plan" thing? Oct 07 14:44:27 you're basically saying, our business model isn't cutting it against this other OS Oct 07 14:44:45 summatusmentis: no, i'm not... what are you talking about if not the WSJ story about them spending $20B to have iphone 5 exclusive? Oct 07 14:45:23 dtac?lemme find it Oct 07 14:45:30 err... lemme find it* Oct 07 14:45:54 dtac fo sho Oct 07 14:46:55 does UglifyJS really speed up code? Oct 07 14:47:21 oh, it's twitter linking to a liveblog Oct 07 14:47:35 but basically, Hesse is saying "iPhone is the biggest reason people leave" Oct 07 14:47:45 which basically means "we need iPhone for people to stay" Oct 07 14:47:59 which is sort of... all or nothing Oct 07 15:27:08 iPoon has a market, Sprint was missing out on it. Makes business sense for them. Oct 07 15:28:19 ipoon? really? Oct 07 15:28:25 that's the name of a new apple product? Oct 07 15:28:59 maybe it will come in Tang orange Oct 07 15:37:06 LOL ipoon Oct 07 15:37:19 yep, so clever Oct 07 15:38:25 i like iPos better Oct 07 15:38:28 ;) Oct 07 15:44:18 OH THE HUMANITY Oct 07 15:44:47 OH THE HUGE MANATEE Oct 07 15:45:06 cwayne: it's mammaries Oct 07 15:45:11 get it right Oct 07 15:45:58 sugardave: YOURE NOT MY REAL DAD Oct 07 15:48:13 #webos: better than daytime television! Oct 07 15:54:08 pants Oct 07 15:54:21 completely unnecessary Oct 07 15:54:26 and optional Oct 07 15:54:28 I agree! Oct 07 15:58:48 remote file transfer of 400GB GO! Oct 07 16:00:39 umm.. why?? lol Oct 07 16:00:47 and what are you transferring lol Oct 07 16:02:10 Media Oct 07 16:02:20 gonna destroy mah desktops array when i get home Oct 07 16:02:36 and if I was really crazy I would back up the 500GB of steam games Oct 07 16:03:54 muahahahahaha Oct 07 16:04:08 dang Oct 07 16:05:08 soon I shall have an ssd cached 4TB RAID5 array Oct 07 16:05:12 * halfhalo laughs manically Oct 07 16:05:23 i hate you Oct 07 16:05:48 unlike now, where two disks of my raid array always drop out Oct 07 16:05:55 WHY DO YOU HATE ME NVIDIA Oct 07 16:09:36 * halfhalo has swingline Oct 07 16:12:12 is it red? Oct 07 16:12:55 yes Oct 07 16:57:36 i need to mow the lawn Oct 07 16:58:00 =[ Oct 07 16:59:20 I need to pay the neighbor kid to mow my lawn Oct 07 16:59:27 lol Oct 07 17:00:50 i love how you can open as many windows notepad files as you want, but if you want to make one if you have one open it needs to replace one you've got open Oct 07 17:01:18 notepad is not multi-window Oct 07 17:01:28 it's a separate notepad.exe for each one Oct 07 17:01:42 so yea... if you tell one that's open to load a file, it'll do exactly that Oct 07 17:01:52 silly notepad Oct 07 17:06:01 It makes Windows really shine in comparison. No other desktop os that i know of have been shipped with a worse standard editor. vim is in another dimension compared to notepad. requires five minutes of training to master the basics though. Oct 07 17:06:56 aha Oct 07 17:07:12 actually i think notepad is pretty awesome Oct 07 17:07:35 I use su sublime... Oct 07 17:07:39 it's my favorite app for writing something to myself and saving to the desktop Oct 07 17:07:45 s/su/ / Oct 07 17:07:45 the less features the better Oct 07 17:08:29 And.., I just learned that the Mexico webOS CONNECT event was cancelled.. hahahaha Oct 07 17:11:39 =[ Oct 07 17:13:40 * NuttyBunny will release nuttypad as is and hope fxspec06 rates it high for being simple :-) Oct 07 17:13:54 looks like they changed it to "the Mexico webOS DISCONNECT event" .. ! Oct 07 17:14:56 lol Oct 07 17:15:10 i'll rate it based on what it does, and how well it does what it does Oct 07 17:15:41 but if it doesn't download... you better believe it's getting 1 star Oct 07 17:16:29 haha Oct 07 17:16:36 iit should download, and it installs, but it doesn't save (yet) Oct 07 17:17:09 fxspec06, because it is very simple and does that with just some major flaws, that is awesome to you? Oct 07 17:18:23 yes, and if you're looking to debate then sorry but you're just going to have to look elsewhere Oct 07 17:19:58 hehehe Oct 07 17:20:00 doesn't need to debate it. ask anyone who use a computer for more than just facebook and porn. notepad sucks Oct 07 17:20:30 okay this is why i didn't want to debate it Oct 07 17:20:45 because it's no positive agruments towards notepad? ;) Oct 07 17:20:56 i use a computer for more than just facebook and porn Oct 07 17:21:35 facebook, porn and notepad? Oct 07 17:21:53 i'm done with this Oct 07 17:21:59 bbl Oct 07 17:22:17 oh bugger, I was looking forward to beat the dead horse some more Oct 07 17:37:11 notepad is simple, fast. not sure what you want out of a simple text editor Oct 07 17:38:40 hi i have programmeda cashier system on language c could i port it to webos? Oct 07 17:41:33 yes Oct 07 17:41:40 look up the webOS PDK Oct 07 17:44:36 where i found this Oct 07 17:44:43 I would just suggest using Square Oct 07 17:45:01 http://developer.palm.com is the best place to start Oct 07 18:44:08 hi Oct 07 18:44:55 hey Oct 07 18:53:23 what's new ? Oct 07 20:31:27 iPhone 4s orded. Oct 07 20:31:29 lolz Oct 07 20:31:31 ordered Oct 07 20:34:13 ordaahd Oct 07 20:37:15 wow the vzw iphone 4 is only $50 cheaper? Oct 07 20:37:26 didn't apple say it would be $100 cheaper Oct 07 20:37:49 was vzw already discounting it? Oct 07 20:38:52 it was $169 two days ago, that's w/ 2 yr contract and my loyalty discount, and now the 4s is $169 and regular 4 is $119 Oct 07 20:38:57 so how basic of a plan can I get from VZW for a Pre3? Oct 07 20:39:45 * dwc- would guess a more basic plan would come from a vzw piggybacker Oct 07 20:39:57 new contract would be like $20 / month for 5gb data + w.e you could get for basic mins Oct 07 20:40:30 hm Oct 07 20:40:46 that's if they will activate it Oct 07 20:41:48 they should. Oct 07 20:42:11 i wonder if I could jsut go prepaid? $1/ day voice $1/ day data? Oct 07 20:42:36 oh jeez rwatkins - it's worse than that. it's $30 for 2GB / month + lowest plan is $40 Oct 07 20:42:37 dont expect to use it much, unless I find it to be much better than ATT Oct 07 20:42:51 so ~$70 / month for lowest plan Oct 07 20:43:05 ugh. Oct 07 20:43:33 i recall call so very little - the prepaid says ".99 /day" but says absolutely nothing about data transfer limit? Oct 07 20:43:53 s/recall/really/ Oct 07 20:46:34 also wonder how VZW 3g speeds compare to ATT faux g Oct 07 20:46:47 rwatkins: you could get a 75MG (not sure what MG is, pretty sure they mean MB) for $10 / mo Oct 07 20:47:03 75 mega gyte Oct 07 20:47:09 nice Oct 07 20:47:54 oh but that's "For Basic Phones Only". is the Pre 3 considered a basic phone? Oct 07 20:48:07 ya, i dont think so. Oct 07 20:48:46 Mega g Oct 07 20:48:54 it's 997G more than 3G Oct 07 20:49:09 O.O Oct 07 20:49:36 shh! dont let the marketers hear that Oct 07 20:49:47 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aTg00wIijNY - for you iphone 4s preorderers Oct 07 20:49:50 (off-topic) Oct 07 20:49:58 rwatkins: are you over 65? because that's the only way you can get a 200 minute plan for $29.99 Oct 07 20:51:16 fxspec06: not *quite* yet Oct 07 20:52:56 on a grandfathered ATT unlimited plan, so hard to give up unless I find VZW to just be so much better. Oct 07 20:54:03 i have a grandfathered VZW plan, i get unlimited for i think it's $20 or $30 / mo Oct 07 20:54:50 * dwc- gets unlimited data for $5/mo Oct 07 20:55:03 nice Oct 07 20:55:05 as unlimited as you can get on EDGE anyways Oct 07 20:55:41 where as other's have to pay $70 for 7GB Oct 07 20:56:49 can thank all those ppl who abused hotspot and free tether-like apps Oct 07 20:57:52 dwc-: hahahahaahahahah Oct 07 20:59:02 (which part? I know I'm hilarious all the time, but ...) Oct 07 20:59:13 the glados vid Oct 07 21:06:48 hello, I keep getting Not allowed to load local resource when I try to set a path to a jpg file which is in /media/internal Oct 07 21:07:22 is there a way to read it from enyo js code or should I switch to PDK and create a SDL surface to render it ? Oct 07 21:30:47 potatOS Oct 07 21:33:53 Friday free apps too Oct 07 21:34:07 http://blog.palm.com/palm/2011/10/a-thousand-and-one-incredible-one-reasons-to-visit-the-app-catalog.html Oct 07 21:36:21 with another nice call out for Paper Mache Oct 07 21:42:47 and I hear it's dead already ........ Oct 07 21:43:02 in less than 15 minutes Oct 07 21:43:17 already had incredible, so dunno Oct 07 21:43:51 dunno if 15 minutes is enough promo codes to make him the winner of an extra $20k this month. Oct 07 21:45:07 i bet it is Oct 07 21:45:14 due to the slash of the dot Oct 07 21:47:48 I heard a rumor about using the touchpad to change the country Oct 07 21:49:51 there must not have been many uses on that app Oct 07 21:50:23 palm blog dated 2:03pm Oct 07 21:50:32 slickdeals post reporting deadness 2:18pm Oct 07 21:53:33 wow i didnt even notice Oct 07 21:57:28 ya snooze ya lose Oct 07 21:59:51 my touchpad shipped! Oct 07 22:01:28 woo! Oct 07 22:01:37 wait... only jsut now? Oct 07 22:01:42 man, I really want tabs/pages on my TouchPad Oct 07 22:01:47 too many apps and it's kinda out of control Oct 07 22:01:58 halfhalo: yeah Oct 07 22:01:59 there's a patch for that Oct 07 22:02:02 and you can make your own also Oct 07 22:02:07 at least I _think_ it shipped Oct 07 22:02:09 name? Oct 07 22:02:09 email says it does Oct 07 22:02:15 tracking number works terribly Oct 07 22:02:51 hmm combined two thoughts. Tracking number is not valid. some of the email info is screwed up and doesn't work. Oct 07 22:03:26 :/ Oct 07 22:03:27 ups? Oct 07 22:03:57 * bnceo` slaps fxspec06 Oct 07 22:05:25 tracking #s are not always in the carrier systems when they're assigned at the shipping origin Oct 07 22:07:12 yup Oct 07 22:07:15 halfhalo: don't even know Oct 07 22:07:26 example: Got a Pre2 GSM repaired and I got the fedex number, but it's in limbo Oct 07 22:07:30 the email says "undefined" instead of giving me a tracking link Oct 07 22:07:34 not even touched yet. just shipping received Oct 07 22:07:39 dwc-: yeah I've heard that Oct 07 22:07:47 and then with amazon, I get stuff before it even says "Out for Delivery" Oct 08 00:11:16 Hello Oct 08 00:11:22 hi Oct 08 00:11:25 Sorry I'm a day late Oct 08 00:11:34 I tested the Snake program Oct 08 00:12:07 It runs great, but a bit slow. The cool thing is that it's in TI-BASIC, so you can edit it to be faster and smaller Oct 08 00:12:57 Does the user list show everybody who's currently on the channel? Oct 08 00:19:24 Today feels like a Wednesday to me, not a Friday... Oct 08 00:21:34 anyone on AT&T around? Oct 08 00:21:40 My dad Oct 08 00:21:55 yeah Oct 08 00:21:58 I'm on att Oct 08 00:22:00 He just got his TouchPad and is trying it out Oct 08 00:22:01 can you confirm the "current" MCC/MNC is 310/410? Oct 08 00:22:10 I got mine two daysa go Oct 08 00:22:13 What's a MCC? Oct 08 00:22:44 mobile carrier code / mobile network code Oct 08 00:22:46 I'll take "quick Googling" for $200 Oct 08 00:22:59 * webOSNewbie slaps his face Oct 08 00:23:13 sugardave: that's where I got the numbers from actually... hence, asking for confirmation from someone with a device :p Oct 08 00:23:22 dwc-: not you :P Oct 08 00:23:23 mcc 310 Oct 08 00:23:29 mnc 410 Oct 08 00:23:34 What's it useful for? Oct 08 00:23:38 I forgot to check impostah before returning the sim card I borrowed Oct 08 00:23:43 oops Oct 08 00:24:11 took it off my sgs2 Oct 08 00:24:34 thank you Oct 08 00:24:45 np Oct 08 00:24:53 I was almost sure but double checked Oct 08 00:25:03 set enough apn's in my day Oct 08 00:26:07 tp seems decent enough Oct 08 00:26:18 like it so far, took a bit getting used to. Oct 08 00:28:23 I can't wait to get a SIM for mine Oct 08 00:30:04 what do you have? Oct 08 00:30:54 I got a 3G one :D Oct 08 00:31:24 anything better then wIRC? Oct 08 00:31:35 I use XChat on Ubuntu Oct 08 00:31:41 only every app ever written Oct 08 00:31:46 oil: amirite? Oct 08 00:32:10 twbbas seems like a devotee to me Oct 08 00:32:12 psh Oct 08 00:38:41 Wow Oct 08 00:44:53 oil: speaking in TCP flags, now? FIN.. Oct 08 00:45:59 hehe Oct 08 00:46:25 urg, not tcp flags... Oct 08 00:47:05 I don't know why I know this, but an erg is a dine per centimeter Oct 08 00:47:12 * webOSNewbie wonders what that even means Oct 08 00:55:36 Is there something like Preware for TouchPad Oct 08 00:55:47 yes Oct 08 00:55:52 its called preware Oct 08 00:55:59 xD Oct 08 00:56:02 It's for TouchPad too? Oct 08 00:56:05 cool Oct 08 00:58:07 i need to call sprint to get iphone :( damn sero plan Oct 08 00:58:27 you think they're going to allow it? Oct 08 00:58:39 they allow all the other phones Oct 08 00:58:52 if not the sgs2 is one damned fine alternative Oct 08 00:59:03 i dislike droid more then ios Oct 08 00:59:14 heh Oct 08 00:59:20 i guess it was just apples site being stupid Oct 08 00:59:27 sprints site let me preorder altho 16gb is sold out Oct 08 00:59:36 sold out preorder? Oct 08 00:59:45 I ordered a 16gb white last night for my daughter for att. Oct 08 00:59:50 on apples site Oct 08 01:00:02 had a $100 apple gift card Oct 08 01:00:17 wow nexus s is $30 Oct 08 01:00:20 * webOSNewbie wants a phone SO BAD Oct 08 01:00:29 I heard att sold 200,000 in 12hrs. Oct 08 01:00:34 I bet sprint sold a shitload. Oct 08 01:00:36 epic finally dropped to $99 Oct 08 01:00:46 an new customer pickups too. Oct 08 01:01:15 hrm Oct 08 01:01:17 its not 4g Oct 08 01:01:23 so it shouldnt have the 4g surcharge Oct 08 01:01:31 meaning id pay the same as i do now $53/m Oct 08 01:01:36 wouldn't matter to me. there's no wimax by me. Oct 08 01:01:41 none here either Oct 08 01:01:47 which is why i dont want a 4g phone Oct 08 01:01:53 have to pay for something i cannot use unless i travel Oct 08 01:02:17 Ouch Oct 08 01:02:31 they have it if I drive closer to nyc or filthadelphia Oct 08 01:02:49 im near detroit and the closest is grand rapids (other side of the state) Oct 08 01:03:01 closest that has 4g Oct 08 01:03:11 you would think detroit would have it Oct 08 01:03:16 nope Oct 08 01:03:21 btw, good luck to the tigars Oct 08 01:03:29 and I'm a yankee fan Oct 08 01:03:32 and if you have a 4g phone you have to pay the surcharge Oct 08 01:03:52 hrm Oct 08 01:04:01 tigers Oct 08 01:04:13 what's in the box: earphones w/ remote & mic, dock connector, usb power adapter, simcard inserted. Oct 08 01:04:17 sprint? simcard? Oct 08 01:04:26 yes, its an international phone Oct 08 01:04:36 gsm/cdma combo Oct 08 01:04:40 Cool Oct 08 01:04:46 gotcha Oct 08 01:04:56 one phone to rule them, and in the darkness bind them Oct 08 01:06:02 lame they still wanna tack on $10 surcharge for premium data.. Oct 08 01:06:02 dawm, you'll like it, but I like both ios and android. Oct 08 01:06:08 more or less about the same Oct 08 01:07:00 im thinking ill have to call in to get the i4s without ruining my sero plan Oct 08 01:07:15 from what I understand, no instore on iphones Oct 08 01:07:35 sprints site says check instore on the 14th Oct 08 01:07:38 since 16gb is sold out preorder Oct 08 01:07:54 I htink that was for pre orders. Oct 08 01:08:06 14th is the street date Oct 08 01:08:11 yeah Oct 08 01:08:24 sprints site says to check the stores on the street date if you want one Oct 08 01:08:29 because prorders are sold out (16gb) Oct 08 01:08:37 meaning it will be in store Oct 08 01:09:12 hah went from 500 texts a month to 8900 texts Oct 08 01:09:19 * Versed wonders if they will have lines of iJustine types in front of Sprint Corporate Stores. Oct 08 01:09:32 lol Oct 08 01:09:44 I have two teen daughters, thats average Oct 08 01:11:57 when I got my ip4, I ordered it via an att store, I purposely waited a few days after the release to pick it up, to avoid those clowns. Oct 08 01:12:10 Good choice Oct 08 01:13:13 guy even texted me the all's clear. Oct 08 01:15:27 http://www.ign.com/videos/2011/10/07/apple-introducing-gladosirion-iphone-4s?utm_campaign=twposts&utm_source=twitter Oct 08 01:17:02