**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Sat Oct 15 02:59:56 2011
Oct 15 03:03:50 * halfhalo laughs evily
Oct 15 03:04:48 <halfhalo> new 3 series annouced today.  which means... the old ones are about to drop in price... which means... 08 335i conv is going to be mine fasta... which means... fun times ahead
Oct 15 03:06:04 * halfhalo is cwazy driver
Oct 15 03:12:07 * ka6sox can attest to that.
Oct 15 03:15:11 * dwc- somehow isn't surprised
Oct 15 03:18:53 * ka6sox wants an xDrive35d
Oct 15 03:50:26 <PatrickC> Hey all
Oct 15 03:53:58 <Da|Mummy> go away
Oct 15 03:54:47 <ka6sox> he he
Oct 15 03:56:06 <PatrickC> Thanks Da|Mummy
Oct 15 03:56:17 <PatrickC> How's it goin ka6sox?
Oct 15 03:58:53 <ka6sox> too darned much work :P
Oct 15 04:05:10 <PatrickC> Lol. I think we all have that problem :)
Oct 15 04:19:51 <summatusmentis> Raio: fix your connection
Oct 15 04:20:20 <Da|Mummy> suddenly, k-lined
Oct 15 04:20:33 <wrea> Wow, my phone is finally being repaired
Oct 15 04:21:13 <wrea> Only took $%%ing month
Oct 15 04:23:12 <dwc-> baaaaan
Oct 15 04:23:39 <dwc-> wrea: sorry to hear you're still having problems :(
Oct 15 04:23:46 <wrea> Yeah, me too
Oct 15 04:24:19 <wrea> I've had so many conflicting stories/lies from them I dont know what actually happened
Oct 15 04:24:46 * dwc- kicks Raio 
Oct 15 04:25:00 <wrea> Ince it comes back and I see the return address I might have a guess as to what might have happened.
Oct 15 04:25:32 <wrea> But un any case they've dealt with it extremely poorly and it has been the worst service I've had.
Oct 15 04:25:33 <dwc-> maybe it took a world tour first
Oct 15 04:26:11 <wrea> Maybe
Oct 15 04:26:27 <wrea> Or a state tour of texas
Oct 15 04:26:31 <dwc-> next time, tell 'em to give you $70 for it, and you'll go get another one :p
Oct 15 04:27:01 <wrea> lol
Oct 15 04:27:14 <wrea> seriously
Oct 15 04:27:35 <wrea> I'm supposed to receive a call back by tuesday
Oct 15 04:28:01 <wrea> I never got the first two. If they do call i'm going to demand next day shipment back
Oct 15 04:28:12 <wrea> we'll see if i get it :P
Oct 15 04:30:21 <dwc-> surprised freenode hasn't glined him yet
Oct 15 04:30:37 <dwc-> or klined even. it's all the same server
Oct 15 04:37:39 <dwc-> dkirker: save us
Oct 15 04:38:43 <wrea> lol
Oct 15 04:42:49 <VICODANAX> .............
Oct 15 09:32:23 <panel> hi
Oct 15 10:45:34 <rrix> Do Synergy document plugins use FUSE? I can't figure out where data is cached/mounted :(
Oct 15 11:00:42 <EricBlade> anyone up for an Enyo discussion? :D  i've got nested VirtualRepeaters .. and onclick events in the outer are receiving row indices for the inner ..  this is a problem .. any thoughts on how i could get what i want out of it?
Oct 15 13:09:37 <fxspec06_> change the name
Oct 15 13:09:48 <fxspec06_> and change the onclick event
Oct 15 13:09:53 <fxspec06_> the name of the item
Oct 15 13:09:56 <fxspec06_> >.>
Oct 15 14:54:55 <Spanska> Would anyone know if when we remove a device from our Palm Profile, it is possible to reactivate it with a different SIM card and have a different access in the App Catalog?
Oct 15 15:14:10 <Tibfib> user email lol of the day: Subject - Please, I paid for this. Body - This thing is nothing I was hoping for!  Pulse reader is what you should look after!!
Oct 15 15:30:13 <haeffb> Tibfib: nice!
Oct 15 15:34:32 <Tibfib> hey, I found another warez site
Oct 15 15:35:06 <Tibfib> searching for nomnomnom news.
Oct 15 15:35:08 <Tibfib> dangit.
Oct 15 15:37:06 <Tibfib> sheesh. there's a lot of warez sites.
Oct 15 17:00:11 <ka6sox-away> Spanska, yes
Oct 15 18:13:01 <Spanska> has anyone tried to delete the Google Maps application manually on 1.4.5 and create a dummy package with ID com.palm.app.maps in an attempt to try to install the new Maps application?
Oct 15 18:29:12 <pc-world> Spanska: does it not work on 1.4.5?
Oct 15 18:29:48 <Spanska> I tried installing a dummy package over the real app but I never really overwrites it
Oct 15 18:30:08 <Spanska> I might just go by a Rogers SIM card and create a new profile and see it how it goes
Oct 15 18:30:18 <Spanska> go buy
Oct 15 18:31:02 <Spanska> considering the country and provider are linked to the Palm Profile, just getting a SIM with a telco that offered the Pre should let me get the real App Catalog I guess
Oct 15 18:37:29 <pc-world> Spanska: Ah, so you've no App Catalog access?
Oct 15 18:40:34 <Spanska> pc-world: no, I do, but there's not much in there actually, mostly crap
Oct 15 18:40:43 <Spanska> I don't have access to the real good apps
Oct 15 18:43:44 <pc-world> and not the "Maps" app?
Oct 15 19:01:03 <wrea> this shit again
Oct 15 19:04:05 <WinterMute> meh
Oct 15 19:05:20 <pc-world> Raio: could you decide? ;)
Oct 15 19:17:34 <pc-world> can anyone ban Raio?
Oct 15 19:17:46 <Tibfib> dkirker can.
Oct 15 19:17:50 <Tibfib> but I don't know if this warrants it.
Oct 15 19:18:06 <Tibfib> dkirker could kick him. hopefully he doesn't auto-join
Oct 15 19:18:26 <pc-world> Tibfib: Well, Raio aut-joins all the time
Oct 15 19:18:49 <Tibfib> true. not sure if that is the same setting as auto-joining after kicked though
Oct 15 19:18:55 <WinterMute> Raio: any chance you could sort out your connection?
Oct 15 19:19:04 <Tibfib> he's afk.
Oct 15 19:19:47 <WinterMute> try kicking him & see if the client rejoins then
Oct 15 19:20:03 <WinterMute> and if that doesn't work then set a temp ban
Oct 15 19:20:38 <fxspec06> whooooop twitter is down
Oct 15 19:20:49 <fxspec06> (again)
Oct 15 19:22:15 <fxspec06> 324
Oct 15 19:29:34 <pc-world> Either Raio is gone or blocking him in Pidgin worked
Oct 15 19:30:12 * WinterMute guesses you blocked him
Oct 15 19:34:51 <fxspec06> lol he's still in and out here.
Oct 15 19:35:32 <fxspec06> how can his connection do that that much?
Oct 15 19:35:50 <fxspec06> he must be using an iphone 4
Oct 15 19:36:32 <pc-world> lol
Oct 15 19:37:13 <Da|Mummy> holy shit...still?
Oct 15 19:42:25 <Da|Mummy> welcome
Oct 15 19:42:34 <Corey> Hello.
Oct 15 19:42:41 <Corey> Da|Mummy: How often is he cycling?
Oct 15 19:42:50 <Da|Mummy> 15 hours long now
Oct 15 19:43:03 <Da|Mummy> about once per min
Oct 15 19:43:07 <Da|Mummy> :|
Oct 15 19:44:06 <fxspec06> lol
Oct 15 19:44:36 <fxspec06> if i had a nickel for every time he's joined and quit in the last week, i'd have at least a thousand dollars
Oct 15 19:46:58 <Da|Mummy> * Raio has quit (Quit: —I-n-v-i-s-i-o-n— 3.1.3 (May '10))  <---first quit msg at 23:57 last night, now its 15:42 here
Oct 15 19:47:52 <Corey> How long's he been doing this?
Oct 15 19:48:52 <Da|Mummy> currently at 15hour constant run as i said, dont know if its happend before that, maybe someone else can chime in
Oct 15 19:51:23 <Corey> Let's see if that sorts it out.
Oct 15 19:51:40 <Da|Mummy> thank you
Oct 15 19:52:18 <pc-world> so I can unblock him now? ;)
Oct 15 19:52:44 <fxspec06> no more nickels =(
Oct 15 19:53:34 <Da|Mummy> :|
Oct 15 19:53:49 <Corey> Da|Mummy: Wait for it. :-)
Oct 15 19:55:05 <Corey> Da|Mummy: OH YEAH! http://tinyurl.com/28jlt7y
Oct 15 19:55:29 <Da|Mummy> rofl
Oct 15 19:55:30 <fxspec06> there he is!
Oct 15 19:55:43 <Corey> Yes, but now he quit from the client side.
Oct 15 19:55:50 <Corey> As opposed to being reset by peer.
Oct 15 19:59:11 <fxspec06> how'd u do that anyways
Oct 15 19:59:31 <fxspec06> what is 'K-Lined'
Oct 15 19:59:48 <Corey> fxspec06: Network level ban.
Oct 15 20:01:10 <fxspec06> neat
Oct 15 20:09:29 <fxspec06> http://www.precentral.net/palm-retail-stores-closed-permanently
Oct 15 20:10:23 <ohhmaar> Hello
Oct 15 20:20:05 <Khaytsus> fxspec06: the news here is:  There were Palm retail stores??
Oct 15 20:20:36 <fxspec06> there was a single palm retail store
Oct 15 20:20:48 <fxspec06> and it is now closed permanently
Oct 15 20:21:32 <fxspec06> the title of the article would lead you to believe there were many palm retail stores, when, in fact, this is not the case
Oct 15 21:39:51 <EricBlade>  anyone up for an Enyo discussion? :D  i've got nested VirtualRepeaters .. and onclick events in the outer are receiving row indices for the inner ..  this is a problem .. any thoughts on how i could get what i want out of it?
Oct 15 21:41:05 <Tibfib> first, make sure your onclick events on the inner aren't being listened to by the outer click handler
Oct 15 21:41:50 <Tibfib> second, you can add a published "index" property that you set when you set the item. Then just check inSender.getIndex()
Oct 15 21:43:14 <EricBlade> i'm not sure i follow the first one exactly
Oct 15 21:58:42 <Tibfib> do you have a click listener on the inner list items?
Oct 15 22:10:21 <fxspec06> yeah specify onclick for each "item".. and give each item its own name... and give each repeater its own name and setup row..
Oct 15 22:10:36 <fxspec06> o.O
Oct 15 22:10:47 <nohorse> just got my Pre3.  ya for me :)
Oct 15 23:51:06 <gurft> is there an article somewhere that gives a good primer of development options for webos?
Oct 15 23:52:11 <Tibfib> don't have one off the top of my head, but there should be some good stuff on developer.palm.com
Oct 15 23:53:53 <gurft> I'm curios as to the longevity if development, have you guys seen an influx of devs since the touchpad firsale?
Oct 15 23:55:01 <Tibfib> No, definitely not
Oct 15 23:56:30 <Tibfib> which is both a good thing and bad thing. Good for those of us here. Lots of users with little competition
Oct 15 23:56:38 <Tibfib> Bad for future of platform
Oct 15 23:57:03 <gurft> its a shame, I really love the platform.  it feels tighter than Ios and android...
Oct 15 23:57:31 <Tibfib> yeah, it's good stuff
Oct 16 00:12:41 * dkirker throws a slimy fish at Tibfib
Oct 16 00:17:57 <Tibfib> dkirker: :/
Oct 16 00:18:06 <dkirker> :D
Oct 16 00:18:26 <dkirker> use that to slap people with that let their IRC connections break. :P
Oct 16 00:18:49 <Tibfib> hah
Oct 16 00:19:01 <Tibfib> or you can do yo
Oct 16 00:19:15 <Tibfib> or you can do yo' job and ban peeps
Oct 16 00:20:10 <dkirker> I seem to be AFK when that happens :/
Oct 16 00:22:11 <EricBlade1> gurft: unfortunately for webOS, i came along with the fire sale.  now you all get to put up with me :|
Oct 16 00:27:46 <rwhitby> Tibfib: just turn off part and join events and be blissfully unaware of connection problems
Oct 16 00:29:12 <Tibfib> heh, I feel like we've had this conversation before
Oct 16 00:29:38 <Tibfib> luckily, today I wasn't in IRC much so I didn't get a chance to be bothered
Oct 16 01:57:02 <Shadyman> So I think the common consensus among my peers is that the invisibleShield for the Touchpad looks like crap.
Oct 16 02:00:49 <wrea> lol
Oct 16 02:02:15 <wrea> I ordered a powered hub, should get here soon.
Oct 16 02:05:15 <EricBlade> Shadyman: i like mine, althoughi 've got some bits of crud under it, it was about impossible to lay it down and work it down properly, without getting some other junk caught in there .. damn pet household
Oct 16 02:06:43 <Shadyman> heh
Oct 16 02:06:50 <Shadyman> front cover only is down to $15
Oct 16 02:08:20 <dkirker> Shadyman: Yeah, I don't like my InvisibleShield. I also tried a PhantomSkinz matte finish protector, but that is a bit too blurry... But it went down easier than the invisibleShield.
Oct 16 02:13:11 <wrea> http://media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lrf5n9e7En1qctkcl.jpg
Oct 16 02:41:25 <Deihmos> what's new in webOS land
Oct 16 02:41:57 <rwhitby> it's still a dead platform that you won't want to use
Oct 16 02:42:25 <Shadyman> ^
Oct 16 02:42:46 <wrea> lol
Oct 16 02:43:06 <rwhitby> Deihmos: what disparaging remarks have you come to make about it today?
Oct 16 02:43:36 <Deihmos> anyone installed cm7
Oct 16 02:43:55 <rwhitby> Deihmos: I think you've got the wrong channel. This is a webOS development channel.
Oct 16 02:44:29 <Deihmos> no prob
Oct 16 02:45:54 <Deihmos> if I can blame anyone for the demise of webOS i would blame the former Palm CEO. Have not heard anything from him since.
Oct 16 02:46:19 <rwhitby> Deihmos: you never fail to meet expectations with your trolling
Oct 16 02:47:05 <Deihmos> how is that trolling? this channel seems to be quite. something wrong with sparking conversation
Oct 16 02:47:29 <rwhitby> If you want to discuss webOS development, feel free.
Oct 16 02:48:06 <Deihmos> didn't you just say the platform was dead? what incentive is there to develop
Oct 16 02:48:13 <rwhitby> What app are you developing?
Oct 16 02:48:19 <Deihmos> none
Oct 16 02:48:25 <rwhitby> Good, you have no business here then.
Oct 16 02:48:58 <Deihmos> so you are saying the other 145 people here are developing ?
Oct 16 02:49:16 <rwhitby> they're either developing, or not trolling.
Oct 16 02:49:50 <Deihmos> you seem to be a bit angry. Its not my fault
Oct 16 02:50:32 <rwhitby> simply a response to your behaviour every time you enter this channel
Oct 16 02:51:12 <Deihmos> can't tell the last time i said anythign in this channel
Oct 16 02:53:18 <fxspec06> Deihmos: this channel seems to be quite what?
Oct 16 02:53:57 <rwhitby> Deihmos: last time you were discussing how you wanted to run Android on the TouchPad.
Oct 16 02:58:15 <Deihmos> not on this channel
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