**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Fri Oct 21 02:59:57 2011
Oct 21 03:52:30 * DougReeder waves hello
Oct 21 03:53:07 <wrea> hi
Oct 21 03:53:40 <DougReeder> What conversations have I missed tonight?
Oct 21 03:54:47 <PuffTheMagic> DougReeder, PatrickC ate a bowl of dicks
Oct 21 03:54:58 <DougReeder> Is that so?
Oct 21 03:55:20 <wrea> lol, yeah
Oct 21 03:57:30 <DougReeder> This place is going downhill.
Oct 21 03:57:53 <Versed> evening
Oct 21 03:57:55 <PuffTheMagic> its HP's fault
Oct 21 03:58:11 * DougReeder waves to versed
Oct 21 03:58:21 <wrea> I'd say its PatrickC's fault
Oct 21 03:58:42 <Versed> I got one of those $99 toucpads, so far decent.
Oct 21 03:59:21 <Versed> Waas thinking of hacking android on it, but I like webos, and besides have an asus transformer.
Oct 21 03:59:55 <objectconstant> is it an autobot or  decepticon
Oct 21 04:01:12 * DougReeder waves goodnight
Oct 21 04:44:24 <PuffTheMagic> http://ompldr.org/vYXdtbw/freeTether-enyo.png
Oct 21 04:46:01 <wrea> cool
Oct 21 05:13:45 <wrea> So, one cant select files to upload via the browser
Oct 21 05:13:54 <rwatkins> yea! finally replaced persistence.js with Lawnchair - now to see if all the websql stuff stops hanging all the time ..
Oct 21 06:18:52 <PuffTheMagic> http://www.retrojunk.com/
Oct 21 06:40:07 <Shadyman> And here I thought I'd have to replace a power supply or something... was just a stupid divebomber fly making noise
Oct 21 06:54:08 <panel> hello
Oct 21 12:53:20 <vampiwo> help
Oct 21 13:13:37 <fxspec06> yelp
Oct 21 13:14:35 <EricBlade> qillerneu: another michigan dev?
Oct 21 13:14:52 <qillerneu> EricBlade: yup
Oct 21 13:14:58 <qillerneu> GR area
Oct 21 13:15:08 <EricBlade> ah, detroit here
Oct 21 13:16:10 <EricBlade> fxspec06: how goes voogle xl ? :)
Oct 21 13:44:57 <Tibfib> I keep getting emails about how swiping opens articles in nomnomnom
Oct 21 13:44:59 <Tibfib> come on palm.
Oct 21 13:45:59 <Tibfib> anyone get european payment yesterday?
Oct 21 13:49:29 <fxspec06> EricBlade: it's goin
Oct 21 13:49:48 <fxspec06> Tibfib: i got paid. pretty sure it included euros
Oct 21 13:54:46 <Tibfib> fxspec06: hmmmm, I don't think I did.
Oct 21 13:55:10 <Tibfib> iPhone should get here today. yay
Oct 21 13:57:17 * EricBlade hopes to receive his bluetooth headphones today .. been a 9 day fedex journey.. wth
Oct 21 13:59:18 <fxspec06> yeah i'm pretty sure it did include it. otherwise i would have got less than i did
Oct 21 14:02:06 <qillerneu> no euro payment yet here
Oct 21 14:03:48 <Tibfib> ARE YOU KIDDING ME CHROME
Oct 21 14:04:05 <Tibfib> it crashes the ONE time where it actually mattered
Oct 21 14:04:10 <Tibfib> typically I can just restart and be fine
Oct 21 14:21:49 <fxspec06> are the euro payments like, included in the usd payments? i thought they uhm. converted it for us ?
Oct 21 14:22:43 <fxspec06> yeah, screw you chrome! and screw you firefox! and internet exporer! and operah! screw web development! they all suck!
Oct 21 14:29:34 <halfhalo> webdev is your friend! not the enemy!
Oct 21 14:30:17 <panel> bye
Oct 21 14:32:17 <oclet> what about netdev
Oct 21 14:34:13 <EricBlade> having a bad day, fx?
Oct 21 14:34:54 <fxspec06> lol no why
Oct 21 14:36:48 <Tibfib> fxspec06: they are typically separate
Oct 21 14:37:51 <fxspec06> hm i did not know that. then i have not got paid at all for any euros (in 2 mos)
Oct 21 14:42:44 <oil> Tibfib: i didnt either
Oct 21 14:43:30 <Tibfib> hmm, looks like they haven't gone out yet
Oct 21 14:43:30 <Tibfib> thanks
Oct 21 14:45:12 <summatusmentis> Tibfib_: is the greader stuff gonna break NomNomNOm?
Oct 21 15:09:54 <Tibfib_> no idea
Oct 21 15:11:12 <Tibfib_> just based on things typically go, I'm going to be it it is going to completely and utterly screw everything up.
Oct 21 15:11:23 <Tibfib_> s/be it/bet/
Oct 21 15:12:41 <Tibfib_> :(
Oct 21 15:12:56 <Tibfib_> I need to write a couple essays today, this is not good.
Oct 21 15:13:07 <Tibfib_> s/on/on how/
Oct 21 15:19:18 * halfhalo yawns
Oct 21 15:54:59 <summatusmentis> stupid question... how do I get my pre to make a noise for notifications when I have headphones in and the ringer switch is off, but not if I don't have headphones in?
Oct 21 15:57:27 <summatusmentis> I've had this before, but I can't remember where the setting is after I switched to a pre2
Oct 21 15:59:21 <Tibfib_> Good question
Oct 21 16:00:24 <summatusmentis> because as it stands, I have it plugged in on the touchstone, and listening to music. So I'm stuck looking at the screen every now and again to see if I've got new notifications
Oct 21 16:00:40 <summatusmentis> if pre2 would forward txt messages to my touchpad, then I could just do that
Oct 21 16:00:43 <summatusmentis> but it won't
Oct 21 16:00:45 <Tibfib_> YES
Oct 21 16:00:48 <Tibfib_> I want that bad.
Oct 21 16:01:06 <hotdp> HattCzech_work: rdy for sencha stuff?
Oct 21 16:03:36 <summatusmentis> do we know why this doesn't work?
Oct 21 16:06:55 <hotdp> chuqui: hi, key still working`?
Oct 21 16:08:52 <Tibfib_> summatusmentis: just doesn't… I usually just flip the ringer switch
Oct 21 16:09:25 <summatusmentis> yeah... :-/
Oct 21 16:09:29 <chuqui> hotdp:  yeah.
Oct 21 16:09:36 <chuqui> but teh day is still young
Oct 21 16:09:51 <summatusmentis> Tibfib_: I used some of my TP promo on Koto today
Oct 21 16:10:15 <summatusmentis> you know what's weird? the dismiss button is on the opposite side in 3.0 as in 2.1 (for calendar reminders)
Oct 21 16:11:33 <hotdp> chuqui: your nervs must be good
Oct 21 16:14:55 <Tibfib_> summatusmentis: nice
Oct 21 16:15:12 <Tibfib_> I need to release an update for koto
Oct 21 16:38:37 <dwc-> summatusmentis: yea, I found that a little odd myself
Oct 21 17:06:41 <HattCzech_work> hotdp: yup, when you flying in?
Oct 21 17:07:48 <hotdp> in about my travel starts in 10 hours
Oct 21 17:08:22 <HattCzech_work> fun times, so you'll be here through pretty much all of the weekend?
Oct 21 17:08:47 <HattCzech_work> wait, that'll be sat morn for you?
Oct 21 17:09:08 <hotdp> yes
Oct 21 17:09:13 <rwatkins> anyone have an issue where websql calls just .. never return??
Oct 21 17:09:16 <hotdp> I will arrive sat evning
Oct 21 17:09:23 <HattCzech_work> okay, so 1/2 the weekend
Oct 21 17:09:25 <hotdp> So ahve to find something to do sunday
Oct 21 17:09:55 <HattCzech_work> staying downtown?
Oct 21 17:10:04 <hotdp> Is the hotel close to "where stuff happens" ?
Oct 21 17:10:09 <hotdp> At the Hilton
Oct 21 17:10:54 <HattCzech_work> yeah, that's pretty close to everything
Oct 21 17:11:16 <HattCzech_work> go to moonshine for brunch on sunday
Oct 21 17:11:37 * hotdp is taking notes
Oct 21 17:11:43 <HattCzech_work> get there early, as there's usually a wait... but it's good and has a large selection (buffet)
Oct 21 17:12:13 <hotdp> Where is it?
Oct 21 17:12:17 <HattCzech_work> you're practically right next to it, so definitely try it... they are well known for their brunch
Oct 21 17:12:39 <HattCzech_work> 3rd and red river
Oct 21 17:12:59 <HattCzech_work> your hotel is at 4th and red river :)
Oct 21 17:13:07 <HattCzech_work> (between 4th and 5th)
Oct 21 17:14:29 <HattCzech_work> goo.gl/XAysk
Oct 21 17:14:31 <hotdp> What do i do after that on a sunday :D
Oct 21 17:14:34 <HattCzech_work> http://goo.gl/XAysk
Oct 21 17:15:22 <HattCzech_work> hmmm, it just got colder... otherwise i'd say go kayaking or paddle-boarding on the river
Oct 21 17:15:50 <hotdp> I think i have to take it easy :)
Oct 21 17:17:10 <HattCzech_work> ahhhh, well there should be lots of other stuff to do as well... maybe not directly in downtown, but close
Oct 21 17:17:28 <HattCzech_work> they have a few tours that run around downtown
Oct 21 17:17:39 <HattCzech_work> the hotel should have more info on that than i do, though :)
Oct 21 17:17:43 <hotdp> I see
Oct 21 17:18:06 <hotdp> So there is not a place where there is alot of shops that are oen ?
Oct 21 17:19:11 <HattCzech_work> oh yeah, there are some downtown
Oct 21 17:19:18 <HattCzech_work> but south congress probably has more
Oct 21 17:19:28 <HattCzech_work> short drive or taxi ride
Oct 21 17:19:41 <HattCzech_work> (more food and stuff around there, too)
Oct 21 17:20:39 <hotdp> south congress ?
Oct 21 17:29:11 <wrea> hi ajay__
Oct 21 17:29:18 <ajay__> howdy!
Oct 21 17:29:40 <ajay__> i really do wish webOS had SIP support, either native or easily added :(
Oct 21 17:29:50 <wrea> ajay__, you get your phone back?
Oct 21 17:29:56 <ajay__> oh woa that's a crazy nick i have :)
Oct 21 17:30:04 <ajay__> wrea: oh.. hmm, i think i'd better call someone!
Oct 21 17:30:18 <wrea> you keep saying that
Oct 21 17:30:26 <wrea> maybe you dont really want it back :P
Oct 21 17:31:55 <ajay__> wrea: oh great, they broke the link to check status. nice.
Oct 21 17:32:05 <ajay__> i don't really use/need it, and i'm kind of full of phones atm
Oct 21 17:32:29 <wrea> i can check my status fine here
Oct 21 17:32:42 <ajay__> oh? link?  I tried https://web.palm.com/sro/status.jhtml
Oct 21 17:33:09 <wrea> wrong link
Oct 21 17:33:10 <wrea> support.palm.com/eservice_enu/
Oct 21 17:33:11 <ajay__> oh just take off the s.. of course
Oct 21 17:33:34 <wrea> I got mine back wednesday...unfixed
Oct 21 17:34:55 <Tibfib_> dangit: http://thisismynext.com/2011/10/21/job-html-css-design/
Oct 21 17:35:01 <ajay__> where do i find their #..
Oct 21 17:35:03 <Tibfib_> oh how I wish I could.
Oct 21 17:35:16 <ajay__> wrea: what! and you paid to ship that beezy too.. damn them.  mine shows as non-received
Oct 21 17:35:58 <wrea> well, they're not going to be doing anything with it :P
Oct 21 17:36:13 <wrea> mine showed that until they got their damn act together
Oct 21 17:36:35 <ajay__> wrea: hrmm..
Oct 21 17:36:40 <wrea> Also, if they tell you they'll just fix it in Pharr instead, thats a lie
Oct 21 17:38:59 <ajay__> wrea: ok that's good (that yours showed non-received), hopefully that applies same to me
Oct 21 17:39:46 <ajay__> wrea: you take care of me like noone else :)
Oct 21 17:40:02 <ajay__> this is some kind of conspiracy, none of the sip softwares i've played with will take key inputs.. gah
Oct 21 17:41:21 <ajay__> "upon checking i can see its here"
Oct 21 17:41:49 <ajay__> oh wait, now she says it shipped to me yesterday
Oct 21 17:44:18 <wrea> I was told that to
Oct 21 17:44:51 <wrea> If it was the status wasnt updated yesterday with tracking and an email with the tracking, it didnt ship
Oct 21 17:45:27 <wrea> I'd ask for them to speak with the admin
Oct 21 17:45:56 <ajay__> wrea: woa.. this is _weird_. for me to speak with the admin, or them?  she's checking something with someone when i asked for a conf/whatever #
Oct 21 17:46:30 <ajay__> weird that they tell us both the same lies, i mran
Oct 21 17:46:34 <ajay__> s/mran/mean
Oct 21 17:46:48 <wrea> they'll probably have a supervisor speak with the admin
Oct 21 17:47:04 <wrea> Just tell them to check with the admin
Oct 21 17:47:50 <wrea> Shadyman, even with a powered hub it still doesnt want to work
Oct 21 17:48:32 <ajay__> "the one i see is the cancelled order.. sent to an invalid shipping address".. but now they are asking me for MY tracking #? wtf!
Oct 21 17:50:00 <wrea> If they cancelled the SRO, whats the new one?
Oct 21 17:52:20 <ajay__> wrea: this is confusing.. :(
Oct 21 17:52:23 * ajay__ doesn't like this
Oct 21 17:52:30 <dwc-> hotdp: I've heard the architecture cruise is nice, if you're into that sort of thing
Oct 21 17:54:43 <Tibfib_> iphone's here. chea
Oct 21 17:54:58 <hotdp> dwc-: what is it?
Oct 21 17:56:15 <hotdp> boat?
Oct 21 17:57:27 <ajay__> wrea: let me guess.. they told you the phone is being sent to the right facility, escalated, and call back within 5 days to recheck?
Oct 21 17:57:29 <dwc-> yea
Oct 21 17:57:45 <dwc-> I guess they take you on the lake/river
Oct 21 17:57:45 <wrea> pretty much
Oct 21 17:57:49 <dwc-> dunno, never been on it though
Oct 21 17:58:10 <hotdp> in Austin?
Oct 21 17:58:14 <wrea> My case was 'escalated' about 5 times
Oct 21 17:58:51 <ajay__> wrea: wow
Oct 21 17:59:02 <ajay__> wrea: so, you think i should still pursue this, after you got back a broken phone??
Oct 21 17:59:21 <hotdp> Is there some kind of cigar/drink maybe jazz place in austin?
Oct 21 17:59:59 <wrea> Yeah, I would. If it comes back still busted after a month with them theyll just do an advanced replacement so you dont have to send it back in
Oct 21 18:01:37 <ajay__> wrea: hmm.. does that mean they're sending you a new phone?
Oct 21 18:03:07 <hotdp> i see its not legal :S
Oct 21 18:03:51 <wrea> yeah, but since yours is older, it'll probably be a refurb
Oct 21 18:04:26 <wrea> ajay__, thats it they have any refurbed to send you. Hopefully it'll come back fixed so you dont have to deal with it anymore
Oct 21 18:08:05 <thomas_92> So, are you excited by smartoffice? picsel said on their Twitter that it will be out monday
Oct 21 18:12:49 <ajay__> wrea: hmm.. yea..
Oct 21 18:16:00 <ajay__> thomas_92: i'm curious, not excited..
Oct 21 18:16:32 * halfhalo has done absolutely no work today and is not planning on doing any
Oct 21 18:17:18 <ajay__> it kind of trips me out that adobe reader and quickoffice are the same software.. like QO contracted with adobe, or.. (they're both done by palm)
Oct 21 18:44:07 <thomas_92> i hope it's going to be better than QO
Oct 21 18:52:51 <dwc-> hotdp: oh, no. I thought it was chicago from the first hilton addresses on hattczech's link
Oct 21 18:53:06 <dwc-> (chicago, chicago, didn't notice the one on the page was austin)
Oct 21 19:08:12 <Tibfib_> haeffb: ping
Oct 21 19:10:37 <dwc-> sprint hotspots joining tethered plans on losing unlimted data
Oct 21 19:12:58 <Hendikins> Coming in to line with the rest of the world?
Oct 21 19:13:19 <Hendikins> Metered data can be useful as a quality of service measure.
Oct 21 19:33:40 <ajay__> aaaaaaaaaaa.. trying to forward gvoice<->sip/ skype is.. not working..
Oct 21 19:34:18 <ajay__> does anyone else have the problem on any of their phones where the screen just blanks and never comes back when you make a call?
Oct 21 19:34:59 <haeffb> Tibfib_:
Oct 21 19:41:39 <Lazar_Dobrescu> ajay__: just a normal call?
Oct 21 20:03:03 <ajay__> Lazar_Dobrescu: yah
Oct 21 20:03:11 <ajay__> any and all calls
Oct 21 20:18:19 <ajay__> oh, i didn't even know the world got splitty.. eh
Oct 21 20:18:33 <ajay__> anyone know of a way to forward calls to a skype id for cheap/free?
Oct 21 20:50:39 <SineOt> Coconut and Prelude are some really surprisingly nice type faces.
Oct 21 20:51:03 <panel> hi
Oct 21 21:07:56 <dwc-> ajay__: gv->DID->sip I've done before, with my desktop
Oct 21 21:08:05 <dwc-> via ipkall
Oct 21 21:08:19 <dwc-> I also tested briefly a free DID->skype service
Oct 21 21:08:27 <dwc-> forget the name of it at the moment though
Oct 21 21:08:40 <dwc-> email me and I'll remember to check later
Oct 21 22:34:05 <ajay__> dwc-: the ipkall solution looks good.  i need to find a SIP client that will allow key presses tho! ;^)
Oct 21 22:34:48 <ajay__> DID to skype?  That'd be _so_ perfect+exciting!  unless it was ring2skype
Oct 21 22:36:47 <dwc-> it might have been
Oct 21 22:36:51 <dwc-> keypresses... that's all of them, pretty much
Oct 21 22:37:01 <dwc-> but fiddle with the DTMF settings
Oct 21 22:37:11 <dwc-> there's 3 different ways
Oct 21 22:37:25 <dwc-> some are better supported by services than others
Oct 21 22:42:05 <ajay__> hrmm..
Oct 21 22:42:07 <ajay__> linphone doesn't
Oct 21 22:42:58 <ajay__> (on webOS)\
Oct 21 22:45:36 <ajay__> dwc-: OMG it worked!!
Oct 21 22:46:02 <ajay__> I found a way to fwd from gVoice to skype online, but i can't seem to get it to work..
Oct 21 22:49:23 <ajay__> oh, in researching after rereading the instructions looks like that opportunity for to forward from gVoice to skype was gone .. damn!  It's like i gotta sign up for all options on all website NOW, so that when they take away options/disallow signups i'll be ready.  sheesh
Oct 21 22:54:12 <ajay__> now all i need is a quick webOS app to disable/enable phones on gVoice
Oct 21 22:55:23 <ajay__> (a good example of my above q.. gVoice limited the # of fwd'ing phones to 6.. but if you had 10+ on there before, you can keep 10 phones.)  ok gtg
Oct 21 23:06:53 <akanster> http://thisismynext.com/2011/10/21/verge-portrait/ - win!
Oct 22 00:33:39 <dwc-> verge, imo is a terrible name
Oct 22 00:34:24 <wrea> yeah
Oct 22 00:35:24 <dwc-> I mean, I'm not all that keen on thisismynext, but verge is worse
Oct 22 00:51:30 <wrea> looks like b43 doesnt build at all with compat-wireless
Oct 22 02:01:11 <Shadyman> wrea: When has anything Broadcom ever played nice with linux?
Oct 22 02:01:50 <wrea> its not directly broadcom's fault. Just the build system for compat-wireless
Oct 22 02:02:08 <Shadyman> fair enough
Oct 22 02:53:17 <akanster> wait! you can roll back to a previous version of your app?
Oct 22 02:56:56 <Khaytsus> If it's a ROM app, you can uninstall updates.
Oct 22 02:57:02 <Khaytsus> ahem, wrong channel
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