**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Sat Nov 05 02:59:57 2011
Nov 05 03:04:37 <EricBlade> html5 audio is working fine here, at least with Subsonic
Nov 05 03:35:29 <EricBlade> hmm. i just took a screenshot accidentally, using my bluetooth keyboard.
Nov 05 03:48:15 <rwhitby> anyone want to test the "Show Purchased Apps" functionality in Impostah 0.9.15 in the beta-apps feed?
Nov 05 03:48:35 <rwhitby> I hadn't realised I'd purchased 145 webOS apps in total ...
Nov 05 04:18:17 <Shadyman> EricBlade: How do you bluetooth screenshot?
Nov 05 04:18:25 <Shadyman> How is screnshot formed?
Nov 05 05:29:20 * DougReeder waves hello
Nov 05 05:49:39 * DougReeder waves
Nov 05 06:04:39 <rwhitby> There are/were 4.2 million webOS users.
Nov 05 06:09:11 <DougReeder> Where's that figure from?
Nov 05 06:09:18 <rwhitby> Impostah
Nov 05 06:09:50 <rwhitby> https://twitter.com/#!/webosinternals/status/132698967254376448
Nov 05 06:10:26 <DougReeder> 4.2 million users have installed Impostah at one time or another?
Nov 05 06:11:25 <rwhitby> no, 4.2 million webOS accounts
Nov 05 06:12:16 <DougReeder> They're known be sequentially numbered?
Nov 05 06:13:19 <rwhitby> I created two in a row
Nov 05 06:13:28 * DougReeder nods
Nov 05 06:13:47 <rwhitby> and numbers for my other accounts match timeframes
Nov 05 06:20:26 <DougReeder> That's useful info -- estimates were there were several million webOS devices out there, but this is more concrete.
Nov 05 06:24:48 <Lumiere> and generally normal users will only have 1
Nov 05 06:26:48 <Shadyman> 1 account ;)
Nov 05 06:27:22 <Shadyman> waiting for my dev TP to boot to see what my account# is
Nov 05 06:27:31 <Shadyman> it won't be low, that's for sure
Nov 05 06:29:22 <DougReeder> Man, I suck at Supersonic.
Nov 05 06:29:36 <DougReeder> My number's under 63000.
Nov 05 06:29:50 <Shadyman> IT'S OVER 9000!!!
Nov 05 06:30:38 <Shadyman> Yep, account# 3,500,000 and change
Nov 05 06:30:57 <Shadyman> huh. isUserAllowedUpdateCountry == FALSE
Nov 05 06:31:05 <Shadyman> well there's yer problem
Nov 05 06:35:33 <Shadyman> rwhitby: I registered my first webos device on the Saturday of Doom
Nov 05 06:35:58 <Shadyman> that evening, so an entire day's worth of people had a headstart on me.
Nov 05 06:36:23 <Shadyman> as far as timelines go
Nov 05 06:37:41 <Shadyman> And with that, bedtime. G'nite!
Nov 05 06:38:54 <DougReeder> Anyone besides me get horrible framerate and control lag in Glyder 2 HD under 3.0.4?
Nov 05 06:45:23 <DougReeder> Interestingly, Glyder 2 HD runs fine (but the graphics are lower-res, of course).
Nov 05 06:46:42 <DougReeder> Erm, Glyder 2 (non HD) runs fine, that is.
Nov 05 06:51:01 <DougReeder> ... but installing the Muffle System Logging patch makes Glyder 2 HD run fine again. Hrm.
Nov 05 13:11:11 <iMarck90> Any news about coupon code?
Nov 05 14:14:42 <lighthart> anyone working on a fix to the 3.0.4 sound issue?
Nov 05 15:11:17 <Shadyman> lighthart: Closed captioning?
Nov 05 15:45:13 <ianbeck> Has anyone here implemented power scrolling in an Enyo app? I'm trying to do so, but could use some pointers on how to capture the gesture
Nov 05 17:06:26 <rwatkins> so I assume the coupons offered for dev devices havent been emailed out yet?
Nov 05 17:07:02 <rwatkins> looks like the details made hacker news - likely going to have a bunch of new signups just trying to get a cheap touchpad - http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=3199739
Nov 05 17:08:46 <klausa> I don't think HN audience will sign up just to get cheap touchpad.
Nov 05 17:08:58 <klausa> If anything, that could bring more skilled developers.
Nov 05 17:11:06 <fxspec06> oh hey would you look at this http://www.precentral.net/app-review-vooglexl
Nov 05 17:37:45 <rwatkins> i would think most of the current HN crowd would have picked up webOS long ago if they were interested
Nov 05 20:11:50 <Tibfib_> rwatkins: we're dealing with HP here, I highly doubt they won't get sent out for a while.
Nov 05 20:13:52 <dwc-> I would guess that up until the "consideration" deadline they won't send them out
Nov 05 20:14:15 <dwc-> they probably have a limited number and are going to try to parcel them out as effectively as possible
Nov 05 20:17:40 <CTLAdvance> The vienna channels may also have them still remaining, and or what was sent back from devs
Nov 05 20:17:49 <CTLAdvance> Some of these may not be new devices
Nov 05 20:18:53 <CTLAdvance> new/refurbs*
Nov 05 20:20:10 <Tibfib_> anyone here trying to get one?
Nov 05 20:21:46 <Loudergood> I am, not sure I'll have money in time, but who knows
Nov 05 20:22:28 <dwc-> I don't think I count as a developer
Nov 05 20:26:18 <sugardave> you only need to have a developer account to qualify
Nov 05 20:41:06 <ajay> wrea: you here?
Nov 05 20:41:20 <wrea> Yeah
Nov 05 20:43:19 <wrea> ajay, whatcha need?
Nov 05 21:01:03 <hwang> how long does it take to receive the coupon code for Touchpad?
Nov 05 21:14:46 <ajay> dwc-: you here?
Nov 05 21:14:59 <ajay> wrea: oh don't need anything, just wanted to give you me Pre+ update!
Nov 05 21:16:45 <ajay> I called Palm repair, and they .. are just annoying.. asking me the same questions every call.  This guy was a bit more insistent on tracking # (which, silly me, i never kept).. i told him that it's in their records.. it's not he said.. then he advised me to call UPS and get it from them.  I was livid at the suggestion.  My response?  I think we both know that won't work, and then was all.. ok, if you think they'll give me the tracking number, let's ask. TOGETHER!
Nov 05 21:17:19 <ajay> hwang: depends on how they do it.  I got mine last month _real_ quick (like next day), but since this month there's going to be such high demand i expect it to take longer..
Nov 05 21:18:27 <ajay> I'm _really_ hoping that they're going to do it on priority (like time in developer program, # of apps, etc), as this announcement has hit too many sites, and there'll be people signing up left and right :(
Nov 05 21:21:17 <wrea> Yeah, they ask me for a tracking number a few times. I told them it was already confirmed as received as i got a call from hp/palm about it. Then they dropped it
Nov 05 21:24:45 <dwc-> vaguely, what's up?
Nov 05 21:39:39 <ajay> wrea: obviously i didn't get a tracking # from UPS.  So I was glad to have wasted some of his time (even tho i was on the phone almost an hour for that call!).. so he went to find the UPS acct #.  Failed.  Investigated, and someone would call me back
Nov 05 21:41:06 <ajay> dwc-: just wanted to make sure you got my email, hadn't heard..
Nov 05 21:42:16 <ajay> wrea: surprisingly! they called me back!  Said UPS lost the shipment (unlikely, but i'll go with it since) they said they'll send me a replacement device!  Score.
Nov 05 21:46:04 <wrea> Wow...they called you back. Surprising.
Nov 05 21:50:03 <ajay> wrea: i was as floored as you!  And prompt resolution!  I mean, i'm not gonna lie, i probably wouldn't've called them if you hadn't urged, but.. looks like it's workin out! :)  oh crap did i just jinx it?
Nov 05 21:51:07 <wrea> most likely
Nov 05 21:51:51 <Lumiere> go knock on wood
Nov 05 21:51:54 <Lumiere> while you still can
Nov 05 21:51:59 <panel> hi
Nov 05 21:54:18 <wrea> its too late, you're dealing with palm support, wood isnt going to help
Nov 05 21:55:42 <dwc-> ajay: oh. sorry. yea I saw it. yes I'll take one. what do you need, my IMEI?
Nov 05 22:00:56 * ajay never had to knock on wood.. but i knew someone that had.. it makes me wonder if i could
Nov 05 22:02:11 <ajay> dwc-: oh, there's this guy on P|C that says he has veer unlock codes.  He gave me one (out of 60!) and it worked. I asked for others' codes from him, but none of them worked.  and/or i can give you a digitalunlock code
Nov 05 22:02:57 * ajay is looking at a 'personal articles policy' to cover his cell phone & mtn bike http://www.statefarm.com/insurance/other/personal.asp
Nov 05 22:03:38 <ajay> dwc-: if you, or anyone else is curious, the VzPre3 is a PoS. gonna bust out the ATT one soon, but need to get a SIM.. ;|
Nov 05 22:07:21 <dkirker> ajay: Grab a check AT&T Prepaid phone. That'll work.
Nov 05 22:07:28 <dkirker> *a cheap
Nov 05 22:09:48 * halfhalo finds no difference between the vzw pre 3 and att pre 3 in terms of build quality or anything like that.
Nov 05 22:10:25 <dwc-> you people with your multiple pre3s
Nov 05 22:11:17 <halfhalo> blame the government.
Nov 05 22:11:44 <Tibfib_> blame the communists
Nov 05 22:18:29 * dwc- blames halfhalo 
Nov 05 22:18:39 <hwang> some communist in US government?
Nov 05 22:19:38 <Tibfib_> blame leo?
Nov 05 22:21:53 <VICODANAX> blame leo.
Nov 05 22:29:53 <rwatkins> yea, I guess the coupon timeline likely on the same schedule as the app hack results
Nov 05 22:31:27 <rwatkins> we're now one for four on getting app hack results out on the announced time.
Nov 05 23:11:51 <sugardave> halfhalo: ping
Nov 05 23:15:18 <Tibfib_> INTERCEPTED
Nov 05 23:22:03 <Shadyman> Oh dear. The Engadget thread on the release of touchpads for developers is like concentrated trollsauce in the comments
Nov 05 23:23:08 <Shadyman> They've got everyone in there.. the "ZOMG ANDROID" fans, the "Y WE NO GET THEM"/"They want Tax ID for dev program!" people, the "Apple > You" folks.. Everyone came out to the party.
Nov 05 23:23:35 * Tibfib_ doesn't read much engdaget anymore
Nov 05 23:26:22 <Tibfib_> I feel bad for the peeps left over.
Nov 05 23:26:33 <Tibfib_> keep in my rss feed, but don't go to teh site much
Nov 05 23:28:05 * fxspec06 doesn't read engadget much anymore either
Nov 05 23:28:24 <fxspec06> i think i used to read it more than i should have..
Nov 05 23:28:39 <VICODANAX> what is engadget?
Nov 05 23:29:31 <halfhalo> sugardave ?
Nov 05 23:29:39 <fxspec06> VICODANAX: it's a place you don't want to go
Nov 05 23:29:44 <sugardave> halfhalo: pm
Nov 05 23:30:20 <VICODANAX> i was trawlalawing
Nov 05 23:41:15 * dwc- browses the internet but doesn't read the comments
Nov 05 23:42:58 <VICODANAX> same here dwc-
Nov 05 23:50:32 <fxspec06> i used to read comments. and participate. but. times have changed.
Nov 05 23:51:05 <fxspec06> the grass is different on the other side of the fence
Nov 06 00:07:49 <dkirker> fxspec06: which side?
Nov 06 00:27:24 <fxspec06> dkirker: the developer side.. the 'creator' side
Nov 06 00:27:37 <fxspec06> opposed to the consumer side
Nov 06 00:27:38 <dkirker> ah
Nov 06 00:27:42 <dkirker> I see :)
Nov 06 00:32:34 <fxspec06> oh wow i just figured out why this algorithm was ridiculously slow
Nov 06 00:32:42 <fxspec06> cool
Nov 06 00:32:50 * fxspec06 random thoughts
Nov 06 01:36:51 <fxspec06> sales reports are out!
Nov 06 01:46:49 <CTLAdvance> woot
Nov 06 01:57:08 <dawm_> we roll the clocks back tonite dont we?
Nov 06 01:57:38 <fxspec06> yes we do
Nov 06 01:58:08 <brenner__> can anyone recommend a (free) mediaplayer for webos
Nov 06 01:58:29 <brenner__> i want to stream stuff via http to my webos device
Nov 06 02:19:11 <dawm_> WTF
Nov 06 02:19:12 <dawm_> just had an advert in the middle of a youtube video
Nov 06 02:19:16 <dawm_> stupid!
Nov 06 02:19:27 <lowlevel> yeah, its getting really bad
Nov 06 02:19:50 <dawm_> i mean i could skip it but it kinda ruined the song i was listening to (not watching)
Nov 06 02:22:43 <dawm_> and an ad at the end
Nov 06 02:22:53 <dawm_> 3 ads during that video..
Nov 06 02:30:27 <CTLAdvance> Thats part of how they expect to make youtube profitable
Nov 06 02:30:36 <CTLAdvance> last I had heard it was still functioning at a loss
Nov 06 02:31:01 <CTLAdvance> but closing in quickly as they implemented the adverts
Nov 06 02:51:51 <fxspec06> why don't they just offer advanced features for hardcore users, like every other site. ever.
Nov 06 02:53:10 <CTLAdvance> Do you mean utube?
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