**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Fri Dec 02 02:59:57 2011
Dec 02 03:02:23 <Tibfib> liveliness is overrated
Dec 02 03:02:57 <Lonestar99> lol
Dec 02 03:03:44 <akanster> but I was surprised there was a 90 minute PalmCast this week
Dec 02 03:03:57 <Tibfib> yeah… what did they even talk about
Dec 02 03:03:58 <Tibfib> ?
Dec 02 03:04:21 <akanster> I didnt get listen. just checked the length
Dec 02 03:04:25 <akanster> get to*
Dec 02 03:06:32 <Tibfib> I stopped being able to listen to palmcasts a long time ago
Dec 02 03:06:48 <Tibfib> verge is basically the only one.
Dec 02 03:06:52 <Tibfib> although I'm like 5 behind
Dec 02 03:06:56 <akanster> heh
Dec 02 03:07:01 <akanster> deiter
Dec 02 03:07:05 <akanster> vlad
Dec 02 03:07:10 <akanster> anb paul!
Dec 02 03:25:20 <akanster> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_6PpLA2tH7w - err, so this exists
Dec 02 03:26:56 <Tibfib> rwatkins: ping
Dec 02 03:28:54 <Tibfib> hmmm why won't window.open work....
Dec 02 03:29:52 <Tibfib> oh, cause safari thinks it's a popup
Dec 02 04:23:43 <kevets> woot finally got a tp
Dec 02 04:24:41 <wrea> congrats
Dec 02 04:25:52 <kevets> early xmas present lol
Dec 02 04:27:28 <kevets> found one with the touchstone dock too which I am liking a lot so far
Dec 02 04:28:14 <kevets> was considering a kindle fire but said no. lets see a fire do inductive charging
Dec 02 04:36:40 <dwc-> probably wouldn't be too difficult to mod
Dec 02 04:42:35 <rwhitby> dwc-: interestingly, the backs from Pre-, Pre 2 and Pixi are easiest to salvage inductive stuff from, as later devices have just coils on the back and the circuitry is integrated.
Dec 02 04:43:22 <dwc-> my friend picked apart one of the pixi backs while we were waiting for the store to let us in
Dec 02 16:09:21 <summatusmentis> Tibfib: I bet you wanna add Google Music support to koto
Dec 02 17:03:09 <fxspec06> http://www.theverge.com/2011/12/2/2605280/rim-blackberry-playbook-loss-earnings
Dec 02 17:34:05 <fxspec06> chuqui!
Dec 02 17:34:19 <chuqui> howdee
Dec 02 17:34:44 <fxspec06> what's new and exciting these days?
Dec 02 17:35:04 <sugardave> it's raining at my house...that is very new and exciting
Dec 02 17:35:18 <sugardave> the burn bans have been lifted so I can burn all this dead shrubbery refuse
Dec 02 17:36:15 <halfhalo> mmm.... fire....
Dec 02 17:36:33 <chuqui> fxspec06:  you know what Im' going to say -- nothing we've made an announcement on... (giggle)
Dec 02 17:39:56 <fxspec06> are you all doing a secret santa at the office this year
Dec 02 17:41:43 * fxspec06 still waiting for that webos frisbee to hit full production
Dec 02 17:44:19 <dwc-> that's hardware, so that probably got killed
Dec 02 18:38:10 <Mousey> so, um
Dec 02 18:38:18 <Mousey> how do i personally help insure the future of WebOS?
Dec 02 18:38:51 <Mousey> maybe start a kickstarter fund to raise the money to but it from HP?
Dec 02 18:39:47 <Mousey> =(
Dec 02 19:05:56 <trout> you better mark?
Dec 02 19:06:24 * Mousey wonders which mark, or if name spelled wrong
Dec 02 19:06:33 <trout> sorry wrong channel. :)
Dec 02 20:03:43 <EricBlade> Mousey: i don't know if there's anything that can be done to ensure anything, but about the only thing i can suggest for the ecosystem is develop apps, and support app developers.
Dec 02 20:40:00 <EricBlade> http://translate.google.com/translate?sl=auto&tl=en&js=n&prev=_t&hl=en&ie=UTF-8&layout=2&eotf=1&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.webosfrance.com%2FWhitman-Nous-n-avons-pas-donne-sa-chance-a-webOS_a1127.html
Dec 02 20:40:18 <EricBlade> i don't know how credible all these french articles are, but they are definitely hopeful
Dec 02 20:41:26 <Tibfib> summatusmentis: not really
Dec 02 20:44:07 <EricBlade> anyone able to answer the question "are promo codes good across multiple versions?" ie, if i create a code while 1.0 is current, then i update to 1.1, are any remaining promo codes still valid?
Dec 02 20:46:06 <EricBlade> nvm, chuq got to it already
Dec 02 20:46:09 <EricBlade> thanks chuqui
Dec 02 20:46:15 <panel> hello
Dec 02 21:10:29 <Tibfib> summatusmentis: should I?
Dec 02 21:16:28 <trenchant> EricBlade: I rather like webos myself.
Dec 02 21:17:47 <trenchant> I have a 15 inch stand alone touch screen, I never use it as a touch screen cause I don't much like the way, that I've so far encountered, that windows / linux  reacts with it
Dec 02 21:18:32 <trenchant> prolly use it if I could plug it into a webos device heh
Dec 02 21:19:51 <trenchant> I hope this new alien movie is good.
Dec 02 21:20:29 <Tibfib> dell venue pro comes today1
Dec 02 21:20:30 <Tibfib> !
Dec 02 21:36:50 <dawm> wubwubwub
Dec 02 21:43:17 <trenchant> wub?
Dec 02 21:45:10 <Tibfib> wubwub
Dec 02 21:45:30 <trenchant> womp?
Dec 02 21:51:35 <Mousey> EricBlade: just got me a touchpad, i'm doing my part! ^_^
Dec 02 21:51:44 * Mousey huggles cxreg 
Dec 02 22:00:39 <summatusmentis> Tibfib: you totes should.
Dec 02 22:08:53 <Tibfib> go for it
Dec 02 22:10:32 <summatusmentis> wut?
Dec 02 22:10:47 <summatusmentis> oh, you want me to do it
Dec 02 22:10:51 <summatusmentis> *le sigh*
Dec 02 23:51:51 <trenchant> help save webos :p https://www.facebook.com/permalink.php?story_fbid=187573088000706&id=100249100055443
Dec 02 23:51:59 <trenchant> https://www.facebook.com/pages/Dear-Meg-Whitman/332219143461959?sk=wall
Dec 03 00:23:23 <rwatkins> Tibfib: pong.  assume you figured out the issue?
Dec 03 01:06:16 <Tibfib> rwatkins: at this point, I don't remember what the issue was 8D
Dec 03 01:12:17 <Tibfib> hmmm, I can't decide whether I want to go all in with sencha
Dec 03 01:13:00 <Tibfib> tried out jo as well
Dec 03 02:04:26 <fxspec06> i wonder if verizon / sprint never bought into webos because webos wouldn't allow carrieriq to be installed
Dec 03 02:04:34 <fxspec06> o.O
Dec 03 02:08:20 <akanster> iirc Sprint bet big on webos
Dec 03 02:09:45 <ka6sox> is that why they only took the first 2 models of the Pre/Pixi and NOTHING else after?
Dec 03 02:10:37 <akanster> I'd guess that was after less than stellar sales
Dec 03 02:10:41 <Tibfib> fxspec06: no.
Dec 03 02:17:47 <EricBlade1> If you truly want to get a Sprint phone to succeed, you really need to get it into RadioShack, and RadioShack got -screwed- by Palm years ago.
Dec 03 02:18:38 <EricBlade1> well, maybe not actually screwed by Palm, but RadioShack got bit by Palm for sure.  they had a crap ton of Treos and Palm 3's that they ended up getting stuck with, couldn't sell 'em.
Dec 03 02:19:05 <EricBlade1> and then Compaq lured them in with the iPAQ, and that didn't do so well either
Dec 03 02:27:55 <mscoolnerd> ka6sox: kindof random, but is your nick a callsign?
Dec 03 02:28:12 <ka6sox> yup
Dec 03 02:29:14 <wrea> I've been meaning to get my license
Dec 03 02:29:17 <mscoolnerd> ah cool, cool
Dec 03 02:29:30 <mscoolnerd> its not that hard... i got mine when i was 10
Dec 03 02:30:04 <wrea> yeah
Dec 03 02:31:22 <mscoolnerd> iirc its 30 question multiple choice test for technician... no morse code anymore :P
Dec 03 02:31:49 <wrea> yup
Dec 03 02:32:53 <wrea> maybe once I start working on my weather balloon ill go take the test
Dec 03 02:33:09 <mscoolnerd> weather balloon?
Dec 03 02:34:25 <wrea> Yeah. I started on a payload that'll take up a camera. Going to use APRS to track it
Dec 03 02:34:54 <mscoolnerd> cool. for what purpose? just for fun?
Dec 03 02:35:48 <wrea> Yeah
Dec 03 02:36:26 <wrea> Loading it with a bunch of sensors too
Dec 03 02:37:13 <mscoolnerd> ah, that sounds fun. well good luck
Dec 03 02:37:13 <fxspec06> are you gna put webos on it, and write your code in js?
Dec 03 02:38:08 <wrea> oh yeah :P
Dec 03 02:38:40 * EricBlade1 has an innovative solution for what to do with webOS.
Dec 03 02:38:51 <wrea> When I get back to it i'll probably move to one of those arduino compatible arm board
Dec 03 02:38:52 <EricBlade> Printers have no consistent operating system.
Dec 03 02:39:12 <EricBlade> HP sells a lot of printers
Dec 03 02:39:32 <fxspec06> same with microwaves.
Dec 03 02:39:41 <EricBlade> sell printers with webOS.  That use something from Autonomy.  BAM HP becomes the biggest seller of operating systems in the world!
Dec 03 02:40:05 <fxspec06> i'm always wanting to cook a piece of pizza from the FRIDGE ... and yet all i see is that 'frozen pizza' or 'frozen entree' button
Dec 03 02:40:12 <EricBlade> they can make the router guys use it too!
Dec 03 02:40:15 <fxspec06> webos would put a 'cold pizza' button.
Dec 03 02:40:54 <EricBlade> of course, routers and printers don't exactly need stellar user interfaces.  so just remove that whole "Luna" thing
Dec 03 02:41:10 <akanster> so Linux? ":)
Dec 03 02:41:14 <mscoolnerd> why don't we just go into furniture while were at it? "HP WebOS Massage Chair"
Dec 03 02:41:19 <fxspec06> EricBlade: would they use mojo or enyo?
Dec 03 02:41:34 <EricBlade> well, without Luna, you don't need Mojo OR enyo!
Dec 03 02:41:40 <fxspec06> mscoolnerd: not a bad idea. those massaging chairs are confusing -.-
Dec 03 02:42:48 <mscoolnerd> hahaha
Dec 03 02:44:06 <fxspec06> ugh. look what you lost, webos: http://www.theverge.com/2011/12/1/2601018/5-minutes-on-the-verge-richard-kerris
Dec 03 02:45:22 <fxspec06> "You just left HP and the webOS team — what was the biggest mistake that was made there?" -- I think webOS is a great technology and I wish them the best.
Dec 03 02:51:38 * EricBlade happens to run across the manual for the touchpad case.  oh, you're supposed to leave the front flap of the case -down- when charging it? i wrap it around the back, and it works fine
Dec 03 02:52:26 <mscoolnerd> EricBlade: just the fact that a manual for a case was even written says alot about society
Dec 03 02:52:56 <EricBlade> i note that there's not an official way to portrait charge with the case though
Dec 03 02:55:45 <akanster> http://www.classnamer.com/ - haha
Dec 03 02:56:46 <fxspec06> EricBlade: i would assume then that if you charge portrait w/ the case on, that breaks your case warranty
Dec 03 02:57:43 * EricBlade chuckles
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