**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Mon Dec 26 02:59:56 2011 Dec 26 03:01:54 Hello? Dec 26 03:02:50
? Dec 26 03:20:00 hmm i could have helped him Dec 26 10:24:03 good morning everyone Dec 26 10:24:29 morning Dec 26 10:38:39 mmm turkey stuffing for breakfast Dec 26 10:38:44 I wish today could be every day Dec 26 11:25:53 am i correct in my understanding, that VirtualRepeater's "controlsToRow" function should set the currently active controls to the row specified? Dec 26 11:26:21 so, this.$.Repeater.controlsToRow(5) should cause this.$.SomethingInRepeater.setContent() should act upon the 5th item in the list? Dec 26 11:27:43 i'm wanting to make some changes to a specific row, without re-rendering the -entire- control, because that does some crazy stuff .. but i'm finding that controlsToRow doesn't seem to be doing anything at all Dec 26 13:09:12 is there some way to setup my app to use the individual enyo source files, rather than enyo-build.js ? Dec 26 13:09:50 trying to debug a tough problem, and i get lost when i'm debugging into the compressed enyo code Dec 26 14:44:06 hmm, is there a way to tell if the user is actively using a bluetooth keyboard from a PDK app Dec 26 14:58:04 i... do not know Dec 26 15:03:23 i know web apps can call enyo.getDeviceInfo() to determine if there is a keyboard available .. but i'm not sure if that works for Bluetooth Dec 26 15:10:59 I think maybe with PDL_ServiceCallWithCallback to the bluetooth SPP service Dec 26 15:11:04 just have to see if it'll give me what I want =/ Dec 26 15:45:43 no there isnt Dec 26 15:45:51 i had the same issue in Tide Dec 26 15:46:10 i asked Ben about creating an api to detect when a bt keyboard was attached Dec 26 15:46:47 Brybry, you really trying to start a new editor? Dec 26 15:47:12 why dont you just fork Tide on github and help contribute to that Dec 26 15:47:49 umm Dec 26 15:48:55 I'm not really starting a new editor, just making sdlterminal work for me (and then maybe giving back if it's clean enough though it'll probably end up very hacky) Dec 26 15:49:12 oh, never mind Dec 26 15:49:15 i got confused Dec 26 15:49:42 i mixed you up with someone who came in here and said they wanted to write their first enyo app and wanted it to be a Enyo IDE Dec 26 15:49:50 ah Dec 26 15:50:08 Brybry, well, you could also work on wTerm if you want Dec 26 15:50:15 and make it scale to phone sizes Dec 26 15:50:17 I think I did look at tide once though, looked interesting Dec 26 15:50:50 wTerm def needs to support scaling for screen rotations Dec 26 15:50:54 an editor with syntax highlighting on my touchpad would be far better for coding on the go than vi/nano Dec 26 15:50:59 which could then be used to make it fit on a phone screen Dec 26 15:51:28 that shouldn't actually be too hard Dec 26 15:51:32 and i also want to move the keybinding prefs into the ui Dec 26 15:51:37 no it wont be hard Dec 26 15:51:51 i've just been trying to fix up sdlterminals' shitty vt compliance Dec 26 15:51:59 so i havent focuses on the other stuff yet Dec 26 15:52:27 but wTerm basically took sdlterminal and used it as hybrid enyo plugin Dec 26 15:52:36 so it has its opengl goodness Dec 26 15:52:50 now will the ability to use enyo for cool stuff like prefs Dec 26 15:52:53 and vkb Dec 26 15:53:36 i was only going to focus on the TP for the present future, but if u want to fork it and help it play nice on phones that would be cool Dec 26 15:53:45 and i can pull in the changes when you think they are ready Dec 26 15:53:55 I don't actually have a webos phone =x Dec 26 15:54:00 lol Dec 26 15:54:06 so why are u doing this? Dec 26 15:54:12 my touchpad! Dec 26 15:54:20 I've only looked at the bluetooth keyboard stuff because I got one for christmas Dec 26 15:54:23 oh Dec 26 15:54:37 well wTerm is already working on the TP fairly decently Dec 26 15:54:48 I dislike that up/down/left/right can't be handled cleanly =( Dec 26 15:55:05 the bt keyboard is pretty junk Dec 26 15:55:15 for terminal stuff at least Dec 26 15:55:21 thats why i have the vbk in wterm Dec 26 15:55:24 vkb Dec 26 15:55:34 both control keys map to rctrl Dec 26 15:55:40 both shift keys map to lshift Dec 26 15:56:11 I dunno if the keyboard is to fault or if it's luna/the PDK to blame Dec 26 15:56:37 well prob luna Dec 26 15:56:56 but we can do anything about that till we get the code Dec 26 15:57:41 Brybry, but if u have a bt keyboard on you (as i left mine at my hose) it would be cool if u added some code to wTerm to show/hide the vkb Dec 26 15:57:48 when bt is enabled Dec 26 15:58:13 and since the plugin is rooted, we dont have to reply on official API's to detect when the bt keyboard is present Dec 26 15:58:23 yeah, no problem once I figure out a clean well to tell when the keyboard is connected and alive (not just once-paired or something) Dec 26 15:58:44 well there isnt an official api for that Dec 26 15:58:49 already went thought all this Dec 26 15:58:57 def need to come up with your own solution Dec 26 15:59:39 even like https://developer.palm.com/content/api/reference/services/bluetooth.html#gettrusteddevices wouldn't work? Dec 26 15:59:50 through https://developer.palm.com/content/api/reference/pdk/pdl/pdl-service-call-with-callback.html Dec 26 16:00:02 hmm Dec 26 16:00:06 that'll be my first try Dec 26 16:00:10 304 might have added some new stuff Dec 26 16:00:16 i havent worked on Tide in a while Dec 26 16:00:22 after that I'll tell the API to diaf and find out the cleanest low level way Dec 26 16:00:35 you know how to test that with luna-send right? Dec 26 16:00:46 nope D: Dec 26 16:01:11 novaterm in Dec 26 16:01:12 and try Dec 26 16:01:13 luna-send -n 1 palm://com.palm.bluetooth/gap/gettrusteddevices {} Dec 26 16:01:54 that is awesome Dec 26 16:01:56 and it definitely works Dec 26 16:02:06 your keyboard is in there? Dec 26 16:02:21 mhmm Dec 26 16:02:23 nice Dec 26 16:02:28 good call on that Dec 26 16:04:02 pastebin the output of that Dec 26 16:04:11 i can add this to wterm real quick Dec 26 16:05:35 http://pastebin.com/Jnggxx9r Dec 26 16:06:27 hello Dec 26 16:06:54 lags a few seconds after turning the keyboard off to say disconnected (I think it just keeps sending/trying to get data and finally disconnects after so many errors) Dec 26 16:07:12 ZOMG dudes, WTF, how crazy mother ******* awesome is the HP Veer? why are there negative reviews about this awosome device. Dec 26 16:07:13 awww damit Dec 26 16:07:30 Brybry, this will only work for the official keyboard Dec 26 16:07:32 :( Dec 26 16:08:14 really? that sucks Dec 26 16:08:21 I would have thought that would show all paired devices Dec 26 16:08:22 ya, it just gives the name of the device Dec 26 16:08:26 it does Dec 26 16:08:27 also, where should i place feature requests for patches? my dad wanted to be able to zoom in in the calendar and the memos app (or whatever) as his eyes aren't as good as they used to be. Dec 26 16:08:40 Brybry, but there is no flag that says this is a keyboard Dec 26 16:11:27 hmm Dec 26 16:12:43 im sure i could talk to Ben and maybe get that squeezed in for the next update Dec 26 16:12:45 but idk Dec 26 16:12:48 we will see Dec 26 16:13:41 Hi everyone, happy new year :) Dec 26 16:14:28 i started a thread in the "Listen & Learn" forum just for the purpose of pointing out APIs that are needed Dec 26 16:14:47 new year? did i drink so much i lost 5 days? crap Dec 26 16:15:22 lol Dec 26 16:15:52 it'd be nice if there was some low overhead api/event one could listen to (even non-webos) to tell when bluetooth devices connect/disconnect Dec 26 16:16:05 that sounds cool Dec 26 16:16:40 Don't developers have access to the BlueTooth api? Dec 26 16:17:23 Brybry, ummm Dec 26 16:17:24 there is Dec 26 16:17:33 I guess there is for SDK? Dec 26 16:17:38 no Dec 26 16:17:40 with subscribenotifications? Dec 26 16:17:52 ya it would involve notifications Dec 26 16:18:05 i mean, u can subscribe to the GAP method and get notificatiobs Dec 26 16:18:19 but i think i found something more specific to HID devices :D Dec 26 16:19:20 Any idea/recommendation how we can extend the messaging program? (I like to add couple of more services such as live, but I can't figure out where services are defined) :( Dec 26 16:19:31 (sorry for the random question) Dec 26 16:19:43 IceXtreme: i think docs were released for that Dec 26 16:20:03 IceXtreme: wasn't there something specifically built into which you could hook to make other services available? also: it would be awesome to have that. Dec 26 16:20:16 Brybry, u were right Dec 26 16:20:18 try this Dec 26 16:20:18 luna-send -i palm://com.palm.bluetooth/prof/subscribenotifications '{"subscribe":true}' Dec 26 16:20:26 and the attach and detach your keyboard Dec 26 16:20:31 i think that will give us what we need Dec 26 16:20:31 I'm not sure, to be honest I got lost on the site :( and it seems most of the stuff are for mojo Dec 26 16:20:39 i couldnt use it before because its not on the public bus Dec 26 16:20:51 with a rooted plugin we can see the private bus Dec 26 16:20:53 so if that works Dec 26 16:21:08 we could relay that shit to the enyo app Dec 26 16:21:09 IceXtreme: it shouldn't be in the mojo section, it was released together with enyo, i think. though i think i heard about it on this channel, i haven't read the docs myself Dec 26 16:21:12 * madnificent goes hunting for docs Dec 26 16:22:11 {"notification":"notifnconnected","profile":"hid","address":"90:7f:61:80:61:77","name":"HP TouchPad Wireless Keyboard","error":0} Dec 26 16:22:25 yes Dec 26 16:22:29 profile:hid Dec 26 16:22:34 not sure why it fired twice for one connect Dec 26 16:22:36 is what we need to detect a keyboard Dec 26 16:25:38 so one can use PDL_ServiceCallWithCallback with that, pass it an event handler, and good things happen? Dec 26 16:26:05 Anyone uses Komodo? Dec 26 16:26:08 madnificent and IceXtreme .. theoretically possible. few of us seem to understand what is needed to connect to Synergy though Dec 26 16:26:20 i use komodo Dec 26 16:26:54 how is it? Dec 26 16:26:56 Brybry, no thats now how u would do it Dec 26 16:27:02 for developing apps for touchpad Dec 26 16:27:04 :P Dec 26 16:27:18 Brybry, u need to use the lower level lunaservice methods Dec 26 16:27:26 my understanding, is that we need to supply some kind of a node.js service, that will communicate with Synergy. And after that point, my comprehension breaks down and falls apart like an old Ford. Dec 26 16:27:29 which allow you to pick which bus you want to listen on Dec 26 16:27:36 when then u have to make a replay Dec 26 16:27:51 copy the message from private and expose a method on the public bus Dec 26 16:28:09 and then the enyo app can subscribe to the replay service in the plugin Dec 26 16:28:13 EricBlade: do you have a link? Dec 26 16:28:25 the PDL_* methods are only for public bus info Dec 26 16:28:37 I like Komodo, I use it for JS, HTML, PHP .. pretty much everything except C/C++/etc and UnrealScript. It doesn't have any useful integration with Enyo though :| Dec 26 16:29:41 EricBlade: I found some links and guides but all of the links are down :( Dec 26 16:29:47 madnificent: hmm. looks like it can be simpler than that, even. https://developer.palm.com/content/api/dev-guide/synergy/overview.html Dec 26 16:31:07 IceXtreme: ^^ Dec 26 16:31:18 EricBlade: i'm just searching to make IceXtreme implement cool stuff Dec 26 16:31:28 rofl Dec 26 16:33:04 if there were actually an example for their "Minimal Synergy Connector", maybe someone would've written one by now Dec 26 16:34:32 There is "Creating a Hello World Service" :P Dec 26 16:40:51 where? Dec 26 16:41:48 EricBlade under https://developer.palm.com/content/api/dev-guide/synergy/overview.html#creating-a-synergy-connector Dec 26 16:44:52 EricBlade: Directlink: https://developer.palm.com/content/api/dev-guide/js-services/creating-hello-world-service.html Dec 26 16:50:30 Brybry, i've implemented a number of these priv -> pub lunaservice relays so I will add that to the wTerm plugin in the near future Dec 26 16:53:03 Brybry, if u have a box.net account, send me the mail u used for it and I will add you to the wTerm alpha build folder Dec 26 16:54:09 https://developer.palm.com/content/api/reference/services/bluetooth.html#notifications makes me think it's a public service Dec 26 16:54:26 of course that could all be lies =x Dec 26 17:04:34 Brybry: seems that that specifically relates to SPP and not other profiles Dec 26 17:05:41 oh =( Dec 26 17:05:43 IceXtreme: that's not quite as barebones as the description of being able to do it in 3 steps seems to indicate. nor does it actually detail those 3 steps Dec 26 17:06:11 i'm a bit of a retard sometimes, if it's not painfully obvious to me what every line does, i may need handholding Dec 26 17:08:55 IceXtreme: have you figured the hard part out yet: how to connect to those messaging services? Dec 26 17:09:33 IceXtreme: for what it's worth, facebook chat is likely going to be one of the easiest to add. i think it uses the jabber protocol, just the way google talk uses it. Dec 26 17:16:03 * PatrickC wanders in Dec 26 17:16:24 madnificent: I'm trying to figure out how to get started :( Dec 26 17:16:44 madnificent: I followed the tutorial but at the end it didn't work Dec 26 17:17:07 madnificent: but I won't mind to do Facebook chat :) Dec 26 17:20:14 madnificent! Dec 26 17:20:44 ok so 2.2.4 is my first OTA update that erased my apps and i guess they are supposed to magically get restored but do i have to initiate that or do they just get re downloaded in the background? Dec 26 17:21:16 (these are app catalog apps) Dec 26 17:25:22 bartholemew: if the backup servers are working, then it should just auto restore when you startup with the profile Dec 26 17:51:05 PatrickC: !! Dec 26 17:51:23 IceXtreme: what did and what didn't work? Dec 26 17:51:47 madnificent! hows it going??? Dec 26 17:52:31 we should have some kind of platform for open source apps (or apps which are open to patching) indicating which feature requests exist etc etc. it should help in creating a solid open source, multiple coders, environment. Dec 26 17:52:45 PatrickC: verrrrry little webos, verrry much startup. really frustrating master thesis. Dec 26 17:52:51 lol Dec 26 17:52:55 PatrickC: how's it going over there? Dec 26 17:52:59 going good Dec 26 17:53:02 on blackberry now :/ Dec 26 17:53:11 will be back "home" soon though :) Dec 26 17:53:11 PatrickC: traitor! Dec 26 17:53:18 picking up my pre2 today from my aunt :P Dec 26 17:53:26 * madnificent just got his hp veer and i'm stunned Dec 26 17:53:29 absolutely stunned Dec 26 17:53:49 i was like that when i got my pre3 Dec 26 17:54:03 blackberry keyboard on a webOS device would totally rock Dec 26 17:54:27 the pre3 is too big for me Dec 26 17:54:28 veer is very nice isnt it? Dec 26 17:54:32 although, the veer keyboard is surprisingly good Dec 26 17:55:05 RichT23: i'm amazed. i bought it because it was the cheaper webos phone which i could afford and because my pre2 died on me. but my god this thing is sexy. Dec 26 17:55:44 i really like mine... keep being asked wat it is... Dec 26 17:56:07 the keyboard is just awesome. i haven't had /any/ issues typing on it, coming from the pre2. the screen is really nice. the edged surface is great (i really missed that on the pre2). it feels rock-solid, especially the slider. it's just fast enough not to annoy me. and it's tiny, which is really nice. Dec 26 17:56:53 RichT23: yeah, i have that also. even without seeing my phone they want to know what i use and where they can get one (i'm not easily satisfied). then i have to say that they aren't actually sold in my country. Dec 26 17:57:19 the veer is wayyyyy to small for me :P Dec 26 17:57:26 PatrickC: have you used it? Dec 26 17:57:33 briefly Dec 26 17:57:50 i don't understand how they've been able to pack so much fun in such a tiny box Dec 26 17:57:50 i prefer a big keyboard Dec 26 17:57:54 lo Dec 26 17:57:58 lol* Dec 26 17:58:08 fat fingers? Dec 26 17:58:13 yeah Dec 26 17:59:23 if i'd have annoying fingers i'd dislike the veer also. luckily it's not a problem for me. my fingers seem to be pointy at the bottom, my thumb easily covers 12 keys but i can still press a single key with all others covered. and the keyboard just does the right thing. Dec 26 18:02:23 the veer (or at least mine) remains solid too, i have been using mine daily for a few months now and its not had any issues Dec 26 18:02:31 madnificent: sorry for long delay but for me it was just blank screen Dec 26 18:02:36 slider is still ferm and KB too Dec 26 18:04:07 IceXtreme: could you connect to the service through ssh or something of the likes? if it's running on node.js i'd assume you should be able to connect to the socket as well Dec 26 18:04:35 No I wasn't able to get that far, so I gave up on it :( Dec 26 18:05:41 anyone else do 2.2.4 OTA and lose all their app catalog apps? Dec 26 18:05:58 madnificent: Do you know any good tutorial on how to get started with Jabber? Dec 26 18:05:59 :P Dec 26 18:06:25 isnt the gchat plugin just jabber? Dec 26 18:08:30 * RichT23 has been holding off one the OTA for the Pre3 Dec 26 18:08:32 IceXtreme: no, sorry. but i'd check out the google chat plugin, i think it's that plugin with a different address Dec 26 18:08:46 nice little present from HP i think Dec 26 18:09:40 IceXtreme: have you tried sending debug output in each of the steps of your application? that way you should be able to figure out where it fails exactly Dec 26 18:09:59 madnificent: No I haven't Dec 26 18:10:28 that'd be where i would start. Dec 26 18:28:22 Does Hp touchpad has jabber support? Dec 26 18:30:48 IceXtreme: google talk is basically jabber Dec 26 18:32:48 ah oky I'm just wondering how they connect to it Dec 26 18:36:01 IceXtreme: i don't know where the sources are for it, you could ask in #webos-internals if no one answers here. as it's node.js, they should be visible, no? Dec 26 18:36:32 IceXtreme: in essence, i think you can copy/paste all the sources for google talk and change the server name for jabber. IIRC, they use the same port. Dec 26 18:37:27 the protocol library is libpurple Dec 26 18:39:06 oeh, they use libpurple already? Dec 26 18:39:39 dwc-: if that's the case, then live should be trivially easy to add, no? (they likely could have disabled it at compiletime though) Dec 26 18:41:13 PatrickC_Away: do you still write reviews for webos apps? Dec 26 18:42:55 ah oky just need to find the source :P Dec 26 18:42:57 lol Dec 26 18:43:42 IceXtreme: don't be shy to ask around, i don't have a clue where you could find it. i myself would grep the root filesystem and hope something sane turns up :) Dec 26 18:43:54 IceXtreme: and #webos-internals is a place to ask too Dec 26 18:44:13 IceXtreme: you know how grep works, right? (and you realize it will take a century to run) Dec 26 18:44:13 thanks :) Dec 26 18:49:18 Yup but I'm on windows :P Dec 26 18:50:58 jeebus. i just took my touchpad off the touchstone, it jumped forward in time 10 minutes, and nothing is responding to touches except for the notification area. wth?! Dec 26 18:51:37 IceXtreme: grep is available from the command prompt in the device Dec 26 19:00:01 :~/palm/meta-doctor/downloads/2.2.4.extract/WebOS.tar$ grep -ri "talk.google.com" * 2>/dev/null Dec 26 19:00:04 Binary file usr/bin/imlibpurpletransport matches Dec 26 19:03:29 * RichT23 just extracted the 2.2.4 tar files and greped Dec 26 19:04:29 RichT23: something more javascriptlike should match Dec 26 19:06:22 ya thats what i was hopeing for ;) Dec 26 19:06:43 thats just the webos.tar Dec 26 19:07:10 actully nova-cust-image... Dec 26 19:11:48 i see /usr/lib/purple-2/libjabber.so Dec 26 19:12:00 so purple is all there Dec 26 19:12:15 just not quite sure what app uses it ;) Dec 26 19:12:56 * RichT23 is hopeing some one learns about the synergy stuff =) Dec 26 19:13:23 id like to see things like msn, and new upload methords images etc Dec 26 19:14:05 if only i wasnt a sysadmin Dec 26 19:14:14 and were a coder instead Dec 26 19:14:58 RichT23: nuttybunny was working on porting the webos messaging plugins project to the touchpad for a while Dec 26 19:15:14 its already in preware for 2.x and 1.x Dec 26 19:15:27 ya? Dec 26 19:15:40 do they plugin to the messaging app? Dec 26 19:15:59 or is there a diffren tapp? Dec 26 19:16:57 RichT23: they plugin to the messaging app Dec 26 19:17:26 oh cool as, how do i find them? Dec 26 19:18:59 search precentral for the thread Dec 26 19:19:03 er, whatever it's called this week Dec 26 19:19:36 * rrix leaves Dec 26 19:19:38 bye Dec 26 19:19:48 hehe, oki... i did see the old thread for messaging but that was just on 1.4.x Dec 26 19:19:54 cya rrix rrix Dec 26 19:21:16 RichT23: if you search there's also a seperate 2.x one (might be linked from there, even) Dec 26 19:21:32 cool thanks rrix Dec 26 19:32:56 i want to turn the touchpad to a digital photo frame. is that possible Dec 26 19:34:43 Guest54345: i think the exabation app come with a photo browser Dec 26 19:34:45 yeah, Dec 26 19:34:46 is there an app to display photos for a time then switch Dec 26 19:34:48 exhibition Dec 26 19:34:53 cool Dec 26 19:34:54 =) Dec 26 19:34:57 I thought that is what that was for? Dec 26 19:35:06 I've never used it! but, that's what I heard that does Dec 26 19:35:14 with a touchstone it does it automatically. Dec 26 19:35:32 put the tablet on the base station and it starts displaying photoss Dec 26 19:35:43 I wasn't able to snag a base station :( Dec 26 19:37:02 don't look like I can select what folder the pics coem from. I am seeing all sort of ache images Dec 26 19:37:36 Guest54345: i think it just goes through the default folder =( Dec 26 19:39:18 as far as i know there is only one way to create extra photo folders is manualy Dec 26 19:39:59 eg by connection via usb and making a new folders with photos in Dec 26 19:40:15 i forget the details though Dec 26 19:40:18 i am not seeing a way to chose the photo lbum Dec 26 19:40:34 as far as i remember the help app tels you how Dec 26 19:41:00 to create new folders that is Dec 26 19:41:34 I know how to create a folder. Just that exhibition does not allow me to chose what albums show Dec 26 19:41:49 ya =( Dec 26 19:42:05 ok i found it Dec 26 19:42:24 hows that? Dec 26 19:42:27 finanlly get some use out of this Dec 26 19:42:44 in exhibition there is a drop meny to chose album Dec 26 19:45:56 Oh i see it, thanks for sharing Guest54345 Dec 26 19:49:09 wish it could go full screen though Dec 26 19:49:20 the time and wifi still show Dec 26 21:26:01 oh, wow i never knew about those options in the photo album on exhibition. that makes it much more useful Dec 26 21:41:15 hello. Dec 26 21:43:54 EricBlade: what options? Dec 26 21:57:48 {"notification":"notifnbattery","address":"90:7f:61:80:61:77","name":"HP TouchPad Wireless Keyboard","batterypercentage":88} <-- huh, does anything in webos actually use that/display it? Dec 26 22:40:30 madnificent: when you tap the photo display in exhibition mode, there's a bunch of options for the presentation Dec 26 22:40:53 Brybry: the battery percentage on the keyboard? nifty! Dec 26 22:41:02 better give us an app to display that Dec 26 22:41:11 or get it tacked on to Dr. Battery Dec 26 22:51:43 EricBlade: ah yes i had noticed those Dec 26 23:03:34 my life would be about a thousand times easier if we had the source already Dec 26 23:28:05 Brybry: what are you building? Dec 26 23:30:16 not really much, mostly learning how innards work Dec 26 23:32:25 trying to figure out how services decide if they send on the public or private service bus (and maybe exactly how things are sent over the bus/how everything communicates) Dec 26 23:33:40 * madnificent can't remember anything of the likes being published. guess you'll have to wait for a long time. though i don't believe they'll have to open source extremely much code. a lot of it is connecting the right libraries together. Dec 26 23:43:13 hmm? some stuff I should be able to figure out by digging deep enough with find/grep/strings on binaries Dec 26 23:46:18 I mean, some stuff is obviously in /usr/palm/services in various services.json files Dec 26 23:49:51 Brybry: that's probably where IceExtreme should have looked Dec 26 23:50:22 IceXtreme even Dec 27 00:36:33 note to self: if you send a javascript app into an extremely long computation, it will lock up all other apps Dec 27 00:37:12 all other javascript apps anyway Dec 27 00:37:54 and closing it during that will result in a luna restart Dec 27 00:51:41 EricBlade: that doesn't look like a solid design for luna :) Dec 27 00:54:43 Brybry: are you looking for C or Node.JS services code examples? Dec 27 00:58:53 maybe C if it uses the public/private services bus but mostly I'm just trying to get how it all works straight in my head for curiosity's sake Dec 27 01:12:39 anyone know if there is a way to add lspci and other common unix commands to webos? Dec 27 01:27:47 Jef91: do you have ipkg-opt installed? Dec 27 01:28:10 nope Dec 27 01:28:11 Brybry: have you looked at the C code for any of the WebOS Internals apps with C services? Dec 27 01:28:32 Jef91: http://www.webos-internals.org/wiki/Optware Dec 27 01:29:44 hrm that claims to be installed Dec 27 01:29:50 Brybry: for example, Impostah has an impersonate service which is a proxy between the public and private bus. Dec 27 01:59:50 wow, im back Dec 27 02:01:22 Hello. I come to ask for help as to what is wrong with this code. http://pastebin.com/yeaMm2iE Dec 27 02:01:30 And also, how do i center an image? Dec 27 02:01:42 When I click my button, nothing plays. Dec 27 02:02:13 are the sound files in the same directory as your index.html file? Dec 27 02:02:21 Yes. Dec 27 02:02:37 hmm, can webOS play WMAs? Dec 27 02:02:48 Also, how do I center an image? Dec 27 02:03:43 well, in css: background-position-x: 50% Dec 27 02:06:38 actually i guess thats or a background image applied to an element Dec 27 02:07:00 #myimage { text-align: center; } ? :) Dec 27 02:07:05 Yeah, it doesn't work. Dec 27 02:07:54 Still no. Dec 27 02:08:03 Anyways, know a way to convert a .WMA into a .WAV? Dec 27 02:14:05 enyonewbie Dec 27 02:14:11 use flex Dec 27 02:14:21 Flex? Dec 27 02:14:43 put the image in a HFlexBox, set HFlexLayout to 1, and then Dec 27 02:14:49 wrap your image kind in flex. Dec 27 02:14:56 { flex: 1 }, Dec 27 02:15:01 Oh, I thought you meant to convert. Dec 27 02:15:06 Thanks. Dec 27 02:15:27 wait Dec 27 02:15:37 LayoutKind: "HFlexLayout" Dec 27 02:15:48 * fxspec06 rusty Dec 27 02:17:36 layoutKind Dec 27 02:28:32 When I converted my .WMA files to .WAVs, and changed the names inside the program, it does not work. Dec 27 02:57:33 hello, I need a free text editor, guitar tuner (multiple octaves, note, share or flat from microphone) and maybe some clues to building an app. Dec 27 02:58:06 also my webosbuzz name is Administrator, will i get kicked off for using that name because usually its restricted or something Dec 27 02:59:24 Aliv3: here's a tip - webosbuzz folks are not really welcome around here, cause they run a pirate warez site which takes money away from the webOS developers in this channel. Dec 27 02:59:26 This channel does not allow piracy **** ENDING LOGGING AT Tue Dec 27 02:59:56 2011