**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Wed Jan 18 02:59:57 2012
Jan 18 03:00:42 <EricBlade1> hmm. today is the first day i've had 0 downloads on any of my apps.  catalog not working?
Jan 18 03:01:19 <EricBlade1> or is this what happens once you end up on the third or fourth page down
Jan 18 03:01:38 <halfhalo> quick! push an update!
Jan 18 03:02:26 <webOSNewbie> I have no idea why that works, but it does.
Jan 18 03:03:45 <halfhalo> hmm.  i get to play with phonegap at work.  and get an iphone 4s for it as well.
Jan 18 03:06:10 <PatrickC> sugardave, u might have just given me the thing i needed.. it isnt working every time though
Jan 18 03:07:23 <PatrickC> http://tinypaste.com/fe81b43d this is valid, right?
Jan 18 03:07:32 <PatrickC> yes, URL is defined somewhere else in the code
Jan 18 03:19:00 <invalidopcode> webOSNewbie: no politics in here please :)
Jan 18 03:19:12 <PatrickC> ^^ ;)
Jan 18 03:21:03 <PatrickC> but helping patrick figure out why his code isnt working is a requirement
Jan 18 03:21:18 <PatrickC> *wink wink*
Jan 18 03:23:26 <invalidopcode> ok.... i guess i can try... what's your problem this time? :P
Jan 18 03:25:16 <webOSNewbie> I wish I was doing Algebra 2 again
Jan 18 03:25:32 <invalidopcode> cause i know nothing about popups
Jan 18 03:25:38 <PatrickC> invalidopcode, lol
Jan 18 03:25:40 <PatrickC> i was kidding :)
Jan 18 03:25:48 <invalidopcode> webOSNewbie: what math are you in?
Jan 18 03:25:49 <PatrickC> for some reason, it wont bind if i add (url) to it
Jan 18 03:25:52 <webOSNewbie> Algebra 1
Jan 18 03:26:03 <invalidopcode> webOSNewbie: nice
Jan 18 03:26:04 <PatrickC> webOSNewbie, your 13.. youve done algebra 2???
Jan 18 03:26:07 <PatrickC> lol
Jan 18 03:26:09 * invalidopcode is in PreCal
Jan 18 03:26:10 <webOSNewbie> no
Jan 18 03:26:14 <PatrickC> ah
Jan 18 03:26:16 <webOSNewbie> I was working on it last year
Jan 18 03:26:21 <webOSNewbie> Teachers switched
Jan 18 03:26:29 <PatrickC> i did algebra 1 when i was 14
Jan 18 03:26:34 <PatrickC> doing geometry now
Jan 18 03:26:43 <webOSNewbie> Last year I did Algebra, Geometry, and some Algebra 2
Jan 18 03:26:46 <invalidopcode> PatrickC: same here
Jan 18 03:26:47 <dwc-> so that's ~8th grade and ~9th grade?
Jan 18 03:26:48 <PatrickC> dang...
Jan 18 03:26:51 <webOSNewbie> I hated proofs
Jan 18 03:27:00 <PatrickC> dwc-, i did algebra 1 in 8th
Jan 18 03:27:05 <PatrickC> wait, no 8th
Jan 18 03:27:07 <PatrickC> 9th*
Jan 18 03:27:10 <webOSNewbie> And I never understood Binomial Therorem
Jan 18 03:27:50 * PatrickC wonders what will happen if he does .bind(url) :)
Jan 18 03:27:56 <webOSNewbie> lol
Jan 18 03:28:47 <PatrickC> obviously not what i want lol
Jan 18 03:28:54 <PatrickC> ugh.. this shouldnt be this hard... :/
Jan 18 03:29:54 <RagingMind> let us know when you've mastered partial differential equations and eigenvalues/eigenvectors ;)
Jan 18 03:30:23 <dwc-> ugh, PDE
Jan 18 03:30:30 <dwc-> why did I take that in HS
Jan 18 03:30:38 <webOSNewbie> At least my teacher recomended accelerated Geometry + Algebra 2 for my IB program application
Jan 18 03:30:50 <invalidopcode> dwc-: PDE?
Jan 18 03:30:58 <dwc-> math got really hard for me around multivariable calc
Jan 18 03:31:02 <webOSNewbie> I mostly play Tetris on my calculator during class
Jan 18 03:31:12 <webOSNewbie> He yelled at me once for that
Jan 18 03:31:17 <dwc-> partial differential equations
Jan 18 03:31:26 <invalidopcode> ah
Jan 18 03:31:28 <dwc-> eigenvalues/vectors were easy
Jan 18 03:31:40 * webOSNewbie somehow loves factoring quadratic equations
Jan 18 03:32:20 <invalidopcode> we're doing sin waves and the unit circle and stuff right now
Jan 18 03:32:42 <invalidopcode> and i've got a test on it tomorrow, so i probably should study..... nawww
Jan 18 03:34:19 * webOSNewbie /me
Jan 18 03:34:21 <webOSNewbie> oops
Jan 18 03:35:10 <invalidopcode> webOSNewbie: have you tried the web version of Teamviewer on the touchpad?
Jan 18 03:35:15 <webOSNewbie> No
Jan 18 03:35:25 <webOSNewbie> My dad owns the TouchPad, not me
Jan 18 03:35:34 <webOSNewbie> I need a passwd crack utility
Jan 18 03:35:42 <PatrickC> lol
Jan 18 03:35:45 * PatrickC bbl
Jan 18 03:35:59 * webOSNewbie brings out his RPN calc app on his Pre2 to do his math homework
Jan 18 03:36:31 * dwc- looks at the pile of RPN calcs on the shelf
Jan 18 03:36:32 * invalidopcode does his math on an HP 95LX palmtop
Jan 18 03:37:20 * webOSNewbie still has a Palm V
Jan 18 03:37:44 <webOSNewbie> Back when Palm.com was Palm.com, they had a history of palm, and it mentioned the Palm V as a milestone
Jan 18 03:38:03 <invalidopcode> webOSNewbie: mine's older :)
Jan 18 03:38:12 <invalidopcode> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HP_95LX
Jan 18 03:38:20 <webOSNewbie> With grayscale 160x160 screen, no memory slot, and 2MB memory, the Palm V doesn't seem like much
Jan 18 03:38:35 <dwc-> I think my HP-35 is older ;)
Jan 18 03:38:37 * webOSNewbie also has a Sony Clie SJ22
Jan 18 03:38:45 <webOSNewbie> Palm OS 4
Jan 18 03:38:48 <invalidopcode> i've got a full DOS installation and Lotus 1-2-3!
Jan 18 03:38:51 <invalidopcode> :P
Jan 18 03:39:02 <invalidopcode> *almost full DOS installation
Jan 18 03:39:02 * webOSNewbie Office 4.2
Jan 18 03:39:02 <dwc-> the form factor of the 95/200LX is nice
Jan 18 03:39:06 <RagingMind> I have a commadore 64 and Mac SE sitting just a few feet behind me
Jan 18 03:39:07 <dwc-> my 200LX needs new batteries
Jan 18 03:39:26 <webOSNewbie> Does my dad count in this old stuff contest?
Jan 18 03:39:29 <webOSNewbie> He's 52\
Jan 18 03:39:35 * rwhitby developed for the 200LX
Jan 18 03:39:36 <RagingMind> webOSNewbie, that's cheating
Jan 18 03:39:49 <invalidopcode> dwc-: yeah, i like the clamshell design, but it eats AAs batteries like there's no tomorrow under heavy use
Jan 18 03:40:10 <invalidopcode> webOSNewbie:
Jan 18 03:40:15 <invalidopcode> opps
Jan 18 03:40:20 <webOSNewbie> Anybody know where I can find a Palm Folio?
Jan 18 03:40:37 * invalidopcode would like to get a 200LX at some point
Jan 18 03:41:03 <EricBlade1> i have a pentium 166 behind me
Jan 18 03:41:20 <EricBlade1> talk about a useless piece of hardware.
Jan 18 03:41:25 <invalidopcode> EricBlade1: doing what, playing pong?
Jan 18 03:41:32 <webOSNewbie> I grew up with Windows 95 on my laptop and a Windows 98 computer (200 MHz)
Jan 18 03:41:43 <webOSNewbie> Then last leap year I got new stuff
Jan 18 03:41:56 <webOSNewbie> Windows XP laptop+desktop
Jan 18 03:42:00 <dwc-> ericblade: makes a good paperweight
Jan 18 03:42:02 <EricBlade1> invalidopcode: it doesn't do anything, it's cpu fan has been making grinding noises for a few years
Jan 18 03:42:08 <EricBlade1> yeah i use it as a stand for my server
Jan 18 03:42:12 <webOSNewbie> I have a few spare fans
Jan 18 03:42:17 <webOSNewbie> Well, my dad
Jan 18 03:42:27 <invalidopcode> webOSNewbie: im only two years older than you and i learned to program on QBasic on DOS haha
Jan 18 03:42:29 <EricBlade1> yeah but try to find one that'll fit a pentium 166
Jan 18 03:42:47 <dwc-> I have one, if you want
Jan 18 03:42:48 <rwhitby> dwc-: remember http://hplx.net/ ?
Jan 18 03:42:50 <EricBlade1> invalidopcode: my first "known" program was an IRC program in QuickBASIC for DOS
Jan 18 03:43:03 <dwc-> it's sitting with the k6-233
Jan 18 03:43:04 <webOSNewbie> I learned to program with QBASIC on DOS (WinXP) and Color BASIC for TRS-80
Jan 18 03:43:29 <invalidopcode> EricBlade1: ah haha nice
Jan 18 03:43:37 <webOSNewbie> I was 10
Jan 18 03:43:57 <EricBlade1> dwc-: if you want to get rid of it, i'd accept
Jan 18 03:44:00 <webOSNewbie> Showed off the math game at a talent show, then quit programming
Jan 18 03:44:07 <webOSNewbie> Too frustrated
Jan 18 03:44:08 <dwc-> rwhitby: no, I didn't do much in terms of apps on it
Jan 18 03:44:11 <invalidopcode> webOSNewbie: ah, i wasn't programming then, i was working on my amateur radio license
Jan 18 03:44:25 <dwc-> EricBlade1: ooh, want my pile of 30-pin SIMMS too?
Jan 18 03:44:29 <invalidopcode> EricBlade1: you should go out and shoot it
Jan 18 03:44:37 <webOSNewbie> We can't afford the equipment for ham radio
Jan 18 03:44:38 <EricBlade1> dwc-: no, it's got maxed ram, 48MB
Jan 18 03:45:24 <invalidopcode> webOSNewbie: i bought my vx-2r for like $160, almost 6 years ago
Jan 18 03:45:29 <invalidopcode> *new
Jan 18 03:45:43 <webOSNewbie> I earn almost zilch
Jan 18 03:45:54 <webOSNewbie> And I put that in site design+development
Jan 18 03:46:22 <webOSNewbie> Anybody know what the funky_theme.mp3 in Angry Birds is for?
Jan 18 03:46:59 <RagingMind> I have a bunch of old floppies with my early programs on them, but they are in the quickbasic binary format.  boo
Jan 18 03:47:01 <dwc-> for playing that funky music [white boy]
Jan 18 03:47:47 <invalidopcode> rwhitby: hahaha on that hplx.net site, there's all these old links and then this random one halfway down the page about .NET and C#
Jan 18 03:48:34 <dwc-> oh yea, wanna make the batteries on the 200lx *really* not last? plug in a 5V pcmcia modem and dial out
Jan 18 03:48:58 <invalidopcode> hahaha
Jan 18 03:49:24 <dwc-> one of these days I'm going to see if my early-gen pcmcia USR 802.11b card's packet drivers will work in dos 5.0 on the 200lx
Jan 18 03:49:37 <invalidopcode> i think my massively large 512K expansion card is eating up the battery power
Jan 18 03:50:21 <webOSNewbie> How do you get to the funky music in Angry Birds?
Jan 18 03:51:03 <dwc-> Showing results for qbasic compiler. Search instead for qbasic decompiler
Jan 18 03:51:05 <invalidopcode> dwc-: i must say though, i really like the built-in calculator, especially the equation solver tool :P
Jan 18 03:51:13 <dwc-> sigh. google. do what I ask, not what you think I want :(
Jan 18 03:51:34 <invalidopcode> dwc-: http://www.qbcafe.net/en/qbasic-downloads/compiler/qbasic-compiler.htm
Jan 18 03:52:07 <dwc-> ahhh, just a disasm
Jan 18 03:52:07 <invalidopcode> i just used that like 2 months ago with dosbox to write some stuff for my palmtop
Jan 18 03:52:24 <dwc-> mmm old x86 asm
Jan 18 03:52:31 <invalidopcode> opps... sry
Jan 18 03:52:49 <webOSNewbie> What's the better: PalmOS, Windows CE, Pocket PC, or Windows Mobile?
Jan 18 03:53:07 <invalidopcode> webOSNewbie: Linux
Jan 18 03:53:14 <dwc-> webos, of course
Jan 18 03:53:16 <Tibfib_> that's like comparing a month old banana to a month old apple
Jan 18 03:53:31 <invalidopcode> .... there both rotten
Jan 18 03:53:39 <Tibfib_> and circle gets the square
Jan 18 03:53:41 <webOSNewbie> I think I agree with invalidopcode...
Jan 18 03:53:56 * webOSNewbie likes penguins
Jan 18 03:54:09 <webOSNewbie> Ever play SuperTux on the Pre?
Jan 18 03:54:10 <invalidopcode> webos runs on penguin power
Jan 18 03:54:41 <Tibfib_> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rt4JAcluraU&t=40
Jan 18 03:56:34 <Tibfib_> this needs to be a meme
Jan 18 04:00:15 <webOSNewbie> I really need to do my math homework; it's 8:59pm
Jan 18 04:00:19 * webOSNewbie is away: 
Jan 18 04:05:21 <invalidopcode> hm... so i found libteamviewer.so files in the teamviewer apk, im wondering if i can link to them and use them in a webos app
Jan 18 04:51:10 * DougReeder waves hello
Jan 18 04:54:55 <Tibfib_> SLEEEP
Jan 18 04:57:28 <DougReeder> I think you mean sleep(2000000000) ;-)
Jan 18 04:59:08 <PatrickC> hrmm... anyone in here deealt with the media indexer in enyo?
Jan 18 05:00:34 <PatrickC> nvm, seems to have worked fine
Jan 18 05:10:47 <fxspec06> wow
Jan 18 05:10:49 <fxspec06> wikipedia
Jan 18 05:10:50 <fxspec06> wow
Jan 18 05:10:57 <PatrickC> what? they shut down?
Jan 18 05:11:47 <dwc-> oh no, students everywhere won't be able to do their homeowrk
Jan 18 05:11:56 <fxspec06> lmfao
Jan 18 05:13:29 <fxspec06> i got to say, that's a pretty sick page they made
Jan 18 05:13:36 <fxspec06> w/ the background and lighting effects
Jan 18 05:13:52 <fxspec06> the glowing W has never looked so good
Jan 18 05:14:55 <dwc-> actually it looks easily bypassable
Jan 18 05:14:59 <dwc-> but w/e
Jan 18 05:15:02 <dwc-> I won't miss WP
Jan 18 05:16:22 <fxspec06> well i'm trying to find out who robby the robot is
Jan 18 05:16:33 <fxspec06> but i can't w/ that stupid crap in the way
Jan 18 05:16:49 <fxspec06> guess i'll have to search somewhere else
Jan 18 05:16:58 <dwc-> use en.m
Jan 18 05:17:41 <dwc-> or view source
Jan 18 05:18:09 <fxspec06> bahahaha
Jan 18 05:18:10 <fxspec06> or
Jan 18 05:18:11 <dwc-> or adblock the script
Jan 18 05:18:14 <fxspec06> just refresh and hit stop
Jan 18 05:18:16 <dwc-> or probably disable JS
Jan 18 05:18:27 <dwc-> or do some "research" that doesn't involve wikipedia :P
Jan 18 05:18:29 <fxspec06> there's a 250MS delay
Jan 18 05:18:37 <fxspec06> less than that
Jan 18 05:18:39 <fxspec06> like 50MS
Jan 18 05:21:03 <PatrickC> http://www.webos-internals.org/ that i cant live with lol
Jan 18 05:21:16 <PatrickC> http://www.webos-internals.org/wiki/Main_Page that i can./
Jan 18 05:40:20 <PatrickC> wow.. 1890 users for Project Macaw
Jan 18 05:56:47 <PatrickC> http://www.flickr.com/photos/webosroundup/6712811705/in/contacts/ massive phone
Jan 18 06:42:52 <dawm_> TiVo Advisors panel invitation
Jan 18 06:42:56 <dawm_> yay.. more surveys..
Jan 18 06:44:51 <wrea> lol
Jan 18 15:23:35 <fxspec06> wild'n free updated.
Jan 18 15:52:57 <koo4> excuse me, is this a touchstone cover in my pre3?  http://twitgoo.com/5buy39
Jan 18 16:00:01 <ka6sox-away> yes
Jan 18 16:05:08 <koo4> ka6sox-away, thx
Jan 18 16:05:24 <koo4> weird the seller didnt even announce it would have one
Jan 18 16:06:05 <ka6sox-away> they *all* have them in the pre3 to my knowledge
Jan 18 16:07:31 <koo4> suspected it a little bit. guess im getting a touchstone...maybe with an old pre...the 3 is too new software compatibility wise
Jan 18 16:08:45 <RagingMind> since the pre+/pixi+ they've all come with touchstone backs
Jan 18 17:23:49 <halfhalo> metal laptop is cold...
Jan 18 17:24:20 <sugardave> encode some videos
Jan 18 17:24:42 <halfhalo> thats effort
Jan 18 17:25:17 <sugardave> encode them to /dev/null/my_heater.avi or something...not much effort
Jan 18 17:25:38 <halfhalo> no videos on the air atm, got rid of em all for some reason or another
Jan 18 17:25:43 <halfhalo> sadly
Jan 18 17:25:51 <halfhalo> and now nothing to watch either.... grrr
Jan 18 17:26:20 <sugardave> I'm starving
Jan 18 17:26:25 <fxspec06> ditto
Jan 18 17:26:40 <sugardave> looks like a microwave kolache is imminent
Jan 18 17:26:43 <fxspec06> i have cake.. but it's a lie.
Jan 18 17:26:50 * halfhalo has no microwave...
Jan 18 17:26:57 <halfhalo> thats being delivered today
Jan 18 17:27:33 * halfhalo is going to get his car washed in a few minutes since he is being lazy and not doing it himself
Jan 18 17:27:38 <RagingMind> I just ate a small block of cheese
Jan 18 18:07:58 <dwc-> load up a page with flash
Jan 18 18:08:11 <fxspec06> i just cut a huge slice of cheese
Jan 18 18:08:21 * dwc- holds his nose... fxspec06 just cut the cheese
Jan 18 18:09:01 <fxspec06> better wear a mask. i'm gonna keep cuttin it
Jan 18 18:12:07 <programmerq> so, I've always wanted to do the "send a camera up on a weather baloon" project. I think that my webos phone might be a good choice. Basically I'd have to do two main things on the phone: text gps and timestamp regularly (only if I have signal), record gps info for the duration of the flight, take pictures at a regular interval. I'm guessing there might be apps already available to do at least some of this stuff. anyone have ideas?
Jan 18 18:17:50 <wrea> and if it lands and has no signal?
Jan 18 18:18:22 <fxspec06> or runs out of battery
Jan 18 18:19:52 <dwc-> palm device? run out of battery? with the gps on? hahaha
Jan 18 18:20:16 <wrea> lol
Jan 18 18:20:21 <fxspec06> bahahahha
Jan 18 18:29:00 <programmerq> I can put in another device to help me find it if there's no signal
Jan 18 18:29:12 <programmerq> and the flight will only be about 2-3 hours
Jan 18 18:29:58 <programmerq> people have done this with non-phones, dumbphones, iphones, android, and I'm sure others.
Jan 18 18:30:11 <programmerq> I wouldn't be surprised if I'm not the first to send up a webos phone
Jan 18 18:30:35 <programmerq> I'm not afraid of writing code either, so I might just go that route too.
Jan 18 18:32:22 <fxspec06> probably best to write some code
Jan 18 18:32:43 <fxspec06> idk of any apps that do that all for you. but i know mode switcher can come in handy for this.
Jan 18 18:33:55 <dwc-> oh, 2-3hrs? that should be ok if you have a new battery
Jan 18 18:38:33 <wrea> I have a project on hold to do it, except im using an arduino
Jan 18 18:41:26 <dwc-> webos phones in spaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaace
Jan 18 18:42:37 <wrea> (near)space
Jan 18 18:42:48 * halfhalo thinks of portal2 space guy
Jan 18 18:44:06 <cwayne> halfhalo: http://spaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaccee.com/
Jan 18 18:44:18 <directhex> Spheres that insist on going into space are inferior to spheres that don't.
Jan 18 18:44:30 <directhex> The Fact Sphere is a good sphere, with many friends.
Jan 18 18:45:01 * halfhalo wants portal 3
Jan 18 18:45:09 <halfhalo> or any new valve game
Jan 18 18:45:16 <halfhalo> since they are incapable of making a bad one
Jan 18 18:45:21 <cwayne> hl ep3 would be nice
Jan 18 18:47:32 <fxspec06> too soon
Jan 18 18:48:03 <halfhalo> thats what she said
Jan 18 18:48:30 <fxspec06> it's amazing what valve can do on pc. portal 2 runs like a champ, and looks better than ...... well a ton of other games
Jan 18 18:48:41 <halfhalo> source engine will do that.
Jan 18 18:49:34 <directhex> source engine is pretty old, but extensible enough to be tarted up to an okay level
Jan 18 18:49:48 <directhex> i wouldn't say any source-based games look amazing by modern standards. but okay.
Jan 18 19:37:11 <EricBlade1> postal 3 looks like crap, and runs worse than a lot of other games.
Jan 18 19:37:31 <EricBlade1> today, my Launcher page will not swipe left/right when it's on the downloads tab
Jan 18 19:38:06 <EricBlade1> or up/down
Jan 18 19:38:11 <EricBlade1> and i can't relocate any icons on it
Jan 18 19:38:38 <dwc-> postal 3 ... for the touchpad?
Jan 18 19:38:39 <EricBlade1> or launch anything from it
Jan 18 19:38:50 <EricBlade1> dwc-: no on pc. topic earlier was Source engine
Jan 18 19:38:57 <dwc-> ohh
Jan 18 19:39:04 * dwc- runs with scissors
Jan 18 19:39:34 <EricBlade1> i'm quite disappointed by p3.  the disappointment i feel for p3 echoes the disappointment many people had with duke nukem forever
Jan 18 19:39:47 <EricBlade1> although Dude does have quite a few funny things to say
Jan 18 19:40:15 <EricBlade1> dammit. sound is broken on my touchpad too.  Downloads tab completely broken, and no sound.  nice.
Jan 18 19:40:19 <dwc-> oh hey, I didn't know they ever made a non-windows version of p1 or p2
Jan 18 19:44:45 <EricBlade1> anyone know a "Chris Percle" or why my TouchPad would have decided to randomly send him email?
Jan 18 19:45:07 <fxspec06> pretty sure the topic was "portal 3"
Jan 18 19:45:11 <fxspec06> ............
Jan 18 19:45:23 <cwayne1> WANT
Jan 18 19:45:41 <EricBlade1> halfhalo and directhex were talking about source in general
Jan 18 19:47:10 <halfhalo> lol
Jan 18 19:47:15 <EricBlade1> also, postal 3 runs on Source.. and it looks a lot like "portal 3" :)
Jan 18 20:03:37 <dawm_> i was gonna say..
Jan 18 20:03:45 <dawm_> valve made a 3rd? they never make a 3rd
Jan 18 21:00:48 <b0bben> y0 all
Jan 18 21:01:39 <cwayne1> you really don't like 'o's do you
Jan 18 21:02:10 <b0bben> any plex users here? I'm looking for beta-testers for my plex client
Jan 18 21:02:11 <madnificent> cwayne1: what d0 y0u mean, what's an 'o'?
Jan 18 21:02:19 <madnificent> not me, sorry
Jan 18 21:02:20 <cwayne1> b0bben: im a plex user!
Jan 18 21:02:31 <fxspec06> what is an 'o'
Jan 18 21:02:36 <cwayne1> O-face
Jan 18 21:02:38 * fxspec06 has nothing against vowels
Jan 18 21:02:45 <b0bben> cwayne1: see; had a bunch of o in there
Jan 18 21:02:58 <cwayne1> couple
Jan 18 21:02:59 <cwayne1> lol
Jan 18 21:02:59 <b0bben> :)
Jan 18 21:03:20 <b0bben> old gaming habit
Jan 18 21:03:30 <cwayne1> fair enough
Jan 18 21:03:47 <fxspec06> 80883n
Jan 18 21:03:48 <cwayne1> but srsly, i am actually a plex user :P
Jan 18 21:04:45 <madnificent> fxspec06: 80883|\|
Jan 18 21:05:22 <wrea> i've been wanting to use plex, but want a dedicated machine for it
Jan 18 21:06:08 * cwayne1 just wishes they had a plex app for ubuntu
Jan 18 21:06:21 <b0bben> http://forums.plexapp.com/index.php/topic/29910-webos-client/page__st__40
Jan 18 21:06:25 <wrea> glad you're working on a client b0bben
Jan 18 21:06:40 <b0bben> its almost a 1.0
Jan 18 21:06:53 <b0bben> pretty much everything works
Jan 18 21:07:02 <wrea> What's used for auto discovery?
Jan 18 21:07:35 <b0bben> if your pms is on windows, there's a bug with auto-discovery right now
Jan 18 21:08:33 <b0bben> wrea: bonjour right now, but I'm rwriting that to use g'day mate (plex own awesome disc protocol)
Jan 18 21:08:55 <wrea> ah
Jan 18 21:09:01 <b0bben> bonjour eats bqttery like a mofo
Jan 18 21:09:16 <b0bben> srsly, stupid azerty keyboard
Jan 18 21:09:29 <wrea> is this going to be in the catalog or preware when ready?
Jan 18 21:09:34 <b0bben> sry for sp errors :/
Jan 18 21:10:08 <b0bben> wrea: yes. and hp is gonna push it big too
Jan 18 21:11:01 <wrea> now im wondering how much of a battery eater avahi is
Jan 18 21:12:41 <b0bben> oh you asked catalog or preware earlier, missread that ;). its gonna be in catalog
Jan 18 21:15:12 <wrea> Hewball, you notice any difference of battery life with avahi running?
Jan 18 21:17:16 <b0bben> is wirc gonna keep running in bg when screen is off?
Jan 18 21:19:35 <Boopop> Does 3.0.5 fix the "unable to load page" problem on the TP?
Jan 18 21:21:52 <EricBlade1> what "unable to load page" problem
Jan 18 21:23:06 <dwc-> b0bben: it does, however the system can still go to sleep
Jan 18 21:23:41 <dwc-> also, b0bben, you -can- change the keyboard map to something else other than azerty
Jan 18 21:24:27 <b0bben> dwc-: thx
Jan 18 21:35:20 <Boopop> Ooh hello b0bben :) I'm a XBMC user, does that count? xD
Jan 18 21:39:54 <b0bben> Boopop: if you're willing to install plex, then yeah :)
Jan 18 21:40:19 <Boopop> How does it work b0bben? Is it the full blown client or does it require a server end too to transcode and such?
Jan 18 21:41:09 <wrea> yeah, needs a server to transcode
Jan 18 21:41:34 <b0bben> it requires a plex media server to feed it warez and to transcode
Jan 18 21:41:50 <Boopop> OK...well I have a Windows Home Server box
Jan 18 21:41:57 <Boopop> I assume I could put the server software on that?
Jan 18 21:42:15 <b0bben> transcoder is very good and really smart.
Jan 18 21:43:22 <cwayne1> eww windows server
Jan 18 21:43:34 <Boopop> It's easy to use and suits my needs
Jan 18 21:43:47 <Boopop> I don't have the time or the inclination to have a linux server :P
Jan 18 21:43:48 <b0bben> boopop: yes. install pms, point it to your media, give it 10mins to gather metadata, take your TP to the toilet and watch Avatar while you poop ;)
Jan 18 21:44:00 <Boopop> Can I stream my music with it b0bben? As in create playlists and such
Jan 18 21:44:11 <Boopop> that's one thing I've found disappointing about touchplayer :( no playlists
Jan 18 21:44:48 <b0bben> no playlists yet, but you can stream music.
Jan 18 21:45:02 <Boopop> So..just one mp3 at a time?
Jan 18 21:45:15 <b0bben> no, album context
Jan 18 21:45:42 <Boopop> By playlist I don't mean actual m3u files, I just mean queueing up stuff
Jan 18 21:45:46 <b0bben> if PMS gets playlists, you'll have them automatically on TP
Jan 18 21:46:42 <Boopop> Anyway, mind if I PM you? Then I can give you my email address :)
Jan 18 21:47:13 <b0bben> give me a sec, wanna be on my comp instead
Jan 18 21:47:17 <b0bben> brb
Jan 18 21:47:21 <Boopop> Good plan
Jan 18 21:49:16 <b0bben> alright
Jan 18 21:49:34 <b0bben> i love my pre3 to death, but irc:ing is so much easier on my mb :)
Jan 18 21:49:51 <Boopop> xD
Jan 18 22:03:43 <b0bben> no local dns lookup on webos devices. gah
Jan 18 22:06:51 <RagingMind> b0bben, ? sure there is
Jan 18 22:07:19 <b0bben> RagingMind: orly? it can't understand xxx.local addresses
Jan 18 22:07:51 <RagingMind> but universal search and the web address bar try to figure out what you're typing in.  either an address or search
Jan 18 22:08:12 <RagingMind> you have to make it clear it's an address so try http://xxx.local/
Jan 18 22:08:34 <RagingMind> I use it to access my mythbackend/mythweb all the time
Jan 18 22:11:46 <b0bben> hmm
Jan 18 22:11:53 <b0bben> in that case, you just saved me hours of work
Jan 18 22:12:04 * b0bben runs to teh codez
Jan 18 22:12:42 <RagingMind> I have no clue how that stuff works in an app.  I just know from typing in the location bar/universal search
Jan 18 22:18:25 <b0bben> RagingMind: doesn't work
Jan 18 22:18:39 <b0bben> tried in the web browser + own app
Jan 18 22:18:45 <b0bben> "unable to resolve host"
Jan 18 22:20:17 <cwayne1> b0bben: what if you just use the ip?
Jan 18 22:20:27 <b0bben> cwayne1: that's the problem i'm having
Jan 18 22:20:46 <b0bben> i'm not guaranteed to have an ip, but i always have the host
Jan 18 22:20:53 <cwayne> b0bben: ah, right
Jan 18 22:23:17 <RagingMind> dns or mdns?
Jan 18 22:23:25 <dwc-> .local is mdns
Jan 18 22:24:02 <dwc-> at least until someone registers that as a tld
Jan 18 22:36:03 <wrea> built a snowman
Jan 18 22:36:21 <dwc-> you people with your snow
Jan 18 22:38:31 <wrea> :P
Jan 18 22:38:40 <wrea> Got a total of 8-9inches
Jan 18 22:43:07 <dwc-> do you miss not having snow wrea
Jan 18 22:43:41 <wrea> Kinda
Jan 18 22:43:56 <wrea> I like getting places, snow kinda makes it a pain
Jan 18 22:44:18 <wrea> I walked to the store up the street so I didnt have to deal with it
Jan 18 22:47:57 <wrea> I do like the 65-70 degree January/February 's
Jan 18 22:48:05 <wrea> Or at least seeing the sun in the winter
Jan 18 22:48:07 <Hewball> wrea: not sure as son hase been using it for youtube, which kills battery alot
Jan 18 22:48:40 <wrea> Hewball, Mines on the touchstone all the time, so I havent noticed anything
Jan 18 22:57:30 <wrea> I was supposed to go to the post office today, but that's not happening
Jan 18 22:59:09 <ka6sox> I need to do that too..but no time.
Jan 19 00:30:26 <dawm_> http://images1.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20110228021015/uncyclopedia/images/0/0d/Stupid_cat_among_normal_cats.jpg
Jan 19 00:43:09 <dawm_> <dawm_> why didnt youtube go black?
Jan 19 00:43:09 <dawm_> <Floach> it never would have come back
Jan 19 01:06:12 <koo6> any beaten path for making the DCIM folder into a nice php/python/whatever gallery with one of the optware webservers?
Jan 19 02:01:43 <osaeed> hi, when you purchase apps through the hp market, does the app bind with the mac address of the hp touchpad or hp webos account?
Jan 19 02:02:01 <halfhalo> webos account
Jan 19 02:02:06 <osaeed> aha
Jan 19 02:02:12 <dawm_> webos profile
Jan 19 02:02:21 <osaeed> thank you
Jan 19 02:02:22 <dawm_> they dont call it an account :P
Jan 19 02:02:27 * halfhalo does
Jan 19 02:02:31 <osaeed> lol
Jan 19 02:02:34 <dawm_> i still call it palm profile
Jan 19 02:03:02 <dawm_> and i dont even really use my touchpad much and my frankenpre2 just sits on the desk unused :|
Jan 19 02:03:35 <osaeed> one last question, does Webos doctor wipe the entire device when it resets it?
Jan 19 02:03:58 <osaeed> or does it just reinstall the webos over
Jan 19 02:04:36 <halfhalo> it generally wipes everything but the usb partition, but it can and will wipe that if it needs to as well
Jan 19 02:04:54 <osaeed> ah
Jan 19 02:05:39 <osaeed> thanks again
Jan 19 02:05:53 <osaeed> going to install CM9 ICS, cant wait!
Jan 19 02:23:22 <dawm_> osaeed, updated webos before you do that
Jan 19 02:23:41 <dawm_> an OTA update will nuke droid, and youll have to reinstall
Jan 19 02:23:47 <dawm_> it doesnt nuke it, but removed the boot loader
Jan 19 02:23:51 <dawm_> er removes
Jan 19 02:24:04 <dawm_> everythings still there tho
Jan 19 02:24:11 <dawm_> just wont boot droid without the loader
Jan 19 02:24:25 <bnceo> osaeed: did they fix the camera and bluetooth yet?
Jan 19 02:24:32 <bnceo> I believe wifi is working
Jan 19 02:37:09 <osaeed> oh sorry
Jan 19 02:37:24 <osaeed> i went to dunkin donuts to get some donuts, but the idiots were sold out
Jan 19 02:37:49 <osaeed> only blueberry muffins were instock...
Jan 19 02:38:01 <osaeed> about the webos, i have 3.0.5
Jan 19 02:38:21 <osaeed> and i uninstalled android using the acme uninstaller
Jan 19 02:38:41 <osaeed> i did that first, then used webos doctor to remove everything after
Jan 19 02:39:04 <osaeed> camera does not work in ics
Jan 19 02:39:17 <osaeed> bluetooth however does i believe
Jan 19 02:39:34 <osaeed> i will report it back to you soon
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