**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Fri Jan 20 02:59:57 2012
Jan 20 03:00:07 <PatrickC> Indian, what link did you use to get the webOS Doctor?
Jan 20 03:00:16 <Indian> http://www.webos-internals.org/wiki/WebOS_Doctor_Versions
Jan 20 03:00:17 <PuffTheMagic> nice buttons, the current vkb just uses stock palm buttons with minimal styling
Jan 20 03:00:30 <Indian> in that tablet wifi only 3.0.5
Jan 20 03:02:06 <PatrickC> can i include Ruby or Python in a webOS app
Jan 20 03:02:08 <PatrickC> ?
Jan 20 03:02:11 <PatrickC> Indian, hmm..
Jan 20 03:03:18 <PatrickC> Indian, go to palm.com/rom and follow the steps there and re-download the webOS Doctor
Jan 20 03:03:22 <PatrickC> maybe something happened..
Jan 20 03:03:27 <Indian> ok
Jan 20 03:03:31 <Indian> thanks
Jan 20 03:03:52 <Indian> PatrickC: Also I want to ask about silverlight
Jan 20 03:04:00 <Indian> is there any work around or soemthing
Jan 20 03:04:08 <PatrickC> dont think so
Jan 20 03:04:13 <Indian> I want to watch some videos and they are in silverlight
Jan 20 03:04:15 <PatrickC> unles there is a Silverlight for Ubuntu
Jan 20 03:04:19 <PatrickC> then you can do the Chroot
Jan 20 03:04:24 <PatrickC> but i dont think there is
Jan 20 03:04:24 <Indian> ok
Jan 20 03:04:29 <Indian> thanks
Jan 20 03:08:21 <dawm_> lol
Jan 20 03:08:41 <Indian> why lol
Jan 20 03:18:12 <Indian> \
Jan 20 03:27:28 * DougReeder waves hello
Jan 20 04:00:32 <chandoo> hi
Jan 20 04:01:20 <chandoo> is there any touchpad app with source available , i had just setup sdk on my linux machine and eclipse environment, i want to try some abandonded application
Jan 20 04:01:55 <rwatkins> C:\Program Files (x86)\HP webOS\SDK\share\applications\enyo
Jan 20 04:02:23 <rwatkins> or likely somewhere in /opt in your case.
Jan 20 04:03:31 <chandoo> i mean some real working app with source
Jan 20 04:04:01 <rwatkins> those would be real apps.  the real webOS browser.  email client.  maps app.  etc.
Jan 20 04:04:23 <chandoo> yes
Jan 20 04:04:46 <rwatkins> yes.  the source code for those webOS apps is included in the SDK.
Jan 20 04:04:53 <rwatkins> go.  look.
Jan 20 04:05:04 <chandoo> i found it, thanks rwatkins
Jan 20 04:05:49 <chandoo> rwatkins:{ today i came across this link and got inspired in setup environment in my linux machine
Jan 20 04:06:01 <dawm_> wtf seriously? 4 messages from 4 different girls within the last hour.. guess they're starting to dig at the bottom of the barrel
Jan 20 04:06:06 <chandoo> http://newbrightidea.com/2011/08/26/hacking-the-touchpad-part-1/
Jan 20 04:54:11 <dawm_> Swiss Army Bromance
Jan 20 04:54:12 <dawm_> lol
Jan 20 04:54:21 <rwhitby> I love how everything in http://newbrightidea.com/2011/08/26/hacking-the-touchpad-part-1/ has been done before. "We need to get Android on this contraption!" (cm7, cm9 already there) "establish a backup plan!" (meta-doctor make backup target) "setting up a cross compiler" (palm SDK, webos internals WIDK, build.git) "a good first-day milestone is to get OpenSSH running on the TouchPad" (install it from Preware or optware) "Last thing is to undo al
Jan 20 04:54:21 <rwhitby> l the custom iptables config" (or perhaps just add a single hole for ssh like the upstart script in Preware does)
Jan 20 04:54:46 <dawm_> not everyone knows how to use google
Jan 20 04:54:59 <rwhitby> so ironic that the site it is on is called "newbrightidea.com"
Jan 20 04:55:16 <dawm_> i keep thinking brighthouse
Jan 20 04:55:19 <dawm_> the app spammers
Jan 20 04:55:44 <summatusmentis> I mean, I assume this is some person somewhere who doesn't actually read the internet, but just posts to it
Jan 20 04:56:01 <dawm_> lol
Jan 20 04:57:09 <summatusmentis> "peripatetic creativity" == "hey look! A thing! Oh look! a different thing!"
Jan 20 06:27:36 <PatrickC> anyone in here use phonegap?
Jan 20 06:43:39 <rwatkins> yes
Jan 20 06:49:40 <PatrickC> how do u get the makefile to finish? it wouldnt run palm-package for me and i dont think theres a way to install .deb files in cygwin
Jan 20 06:50:09 <PatrickC> also, do your completed apps look as horrible as the one that it comes with (i used the regular windows cmd line afterward, but would prefer not to have to do that)
Jan 20 06:51:08 <rwatkins> i have used phonegap for iOS and Android, not webOS.  I dont really see the point of using it for webOS.
Jan 20 06:51:48 <rwatkins> I would suggest for you tht you try PhoneGap Build instead and just upload your web content and let PhoneGap build the actual app binaries.
Jan 20 06:52:01 <PatrickC> phonegap build?
Jan 20 06:52:03 * PatrickC googles
Jan 20 06:52:55 <rwatkins> http://build.phonegap.com
Jan 20 06:58:33 <PatrickC> thanks rwatkins
Jan 20 08:52:50 <dwc-> it was newer and brighter in aug/2011
Jan 20 08:54:12 <dwc-> oh hey, my scrollback buffer wasn't at the end
Jan 20 09:21:50 <Shadyman> dwc-: Love it when that happens,especially when it involves replying to a 12-hour-old conversation
Jan 20 09:21:51 <Shadyman> :D
Jan 20 09:22:21 <burg> hello. is it possible to incorporate flash in webos application? i`m mainly interested in flash audio player
Jan 20 10:07:53 <gokr> Btw, anyone aware of better email app for Touchpad? Or patch for proper email quoting.
Jan 20 11:21:37 <soms> hey b0bben :    {name: "tableeditor",style="margin:8px 0px 10px 0p;"}
Jan 20 11:22:09 <soms> this isn't working..don't i need any kind here?
Jan 20 14:39:02 <rwatkins> burg: flash isnt licenses to be used in apps, and its not allowed for security reasons.  you'd need to load the flash from a remote website.
Jan 20 15:15:19 <Hazel|work> Oh, I had a funny issue the other day
Jan 20 15:15:28 <Hazel|work> I was trying to view some PDFs on the Touchpad
Jan 20 15:15:36 <Hazel|work> from a HTTPS website (with HTTP Basic authentication)
Jan 20 15:15:59 <Hazel|work> and I'd click the link, then it'd pop up the side bar, but the download would immediately fail and it would just be listed with a "Download" button
Jan 20 15:16:20 <Hazel|work> looking at the server logs, it seems that it got one successful request, with the web OS browser user agent
Jan 20 15:16:39 <Hazel|work> then several failed requests, with no username, password, user agent or referrer
Jan 20 15:16:55 <Hazel|work> that were getting 401'd
Jan 20 15:17:05 <Hazel|work> is this a known issue?
Jan 20 15:17:20 <Hazel|work> (several is probably because I kept pressing "download", and nothing happened)
Jan 20 15:29:08 <dwc-> burg: there are a couple of apps out there that play flash files... might look and see how those work
Jan 20 15:32:36 <dwc-> Hazel|work: I think I've seen that before
Jan 20 15:33:53 <Hazel|work> dwc-: ah, I see
Jan 20 15:34:00 <Hazel|work> not just me going insane, then
Jan 20 15:34:04 <Hazel|work> was just bad luck
Jan 20 15:34:11 <Hazel|work> I hadn't had time to transfer them to the tablet over USB
Jan 20 15:34:17 <Hazel|work> and thought it'd be alright over wireless
Jan 20 15:34:34 <Hazel|work> and when that didn't work, I tried the workstation in the seminar room
Jan 20 15:34:47 <Hazel|work> which kept bluescreening whenever I right-clicked on the desktop >_>
Jan 20 15:34:52 <pc-world> Trying to get my plugin work in an Enyo app using a Hybrid kind. It's not launching, not even the jaildir gets created. Any suggestions?
Jan 20 15:59:35 <pc-world> when I set width and height to 1, I get a Luna reboot
Jan 20 15:59:58 <pc-world> though when I embed the same plugin in one of my Mojo apps, it works
Jan 20 16:21:35 <halfhalo> so...
Jan 20 16:21:41 <halfhalo> how bout them scales
Jan 20 16:57:35 * EricBlade1 sighs. i put all new batteries in all of my phones.  charged them, pulled them off the charger when i got home last night at 3am.  when i woke up at 11am, all three were completely dead. :(
Jan 20 16:58:31 <sugardave> I've got a Pre 2 with a bad battery, too :/
Jan 20 16:58:36 <halfhalo> so much for new
Jan 20 16:58:52 <halfhalo> I think my pre3's battery is bad. ish.
Jan 20 16:59:05 <halfhalo> it likes to go from 40% to 0 instantly
Jan 20 16:59:16 <halfhalo> but it takes a long time to hit that 40%
Jan 20 16:59:20 <sugardave> that's just the rapid discharge feature
Jan 20 17:01:13 <fxspec06> d0h. should have known halfhalo
Jan 20 17:01:59 <EricBlade1> and my touchpad was perfectly fine all last night, until i got home, and put it in the touchstone, when it immediately made the bad-audio sound
Jan 20 17:02:13 <summatusmentis> I wish the audio stuff would get fixed
Jan 20 17:03:35 <dwc-> what do you do to your phones/batteries?
Jan 20 17:04:11 <dwc-> I mean, my batteries drain when I do stupid stuff, like leaving ping running
Jan 20 17:06:08 <EricBlade1> two of the phones are completely stock and one was -underclocked-
Jan 20 17:07:41 <dwc-> my year old batteries last more than 8 hrs
Jan 20 17:07:49 <dwc-> when I'm using them even
Jan 20 17:08:35 <pc-world> anyone got an idea why I don't receive a call (this.$.plugin.addCallback) I do from my plugin using PDL_CallJS?
Jan 20 17:25:27 <EricBlade1> dwc-: yeah, when i was out in wisconsin, my batteries were lasting for like 2 days at least
Jan 20 17:25:33 <EricBlade1> without being underclocked
Jan 20 17:42:31 <rwatkins> so, who here's been running Enyo on Android?
Jan 20 17:44:56 <fxspec06> i haven't tried, but i suppose it wouldn't be too difficult to get running. i know @minego_ has been working on it
Jan 20 17:45:32 <rwatkins> running into some odd bugs, wondering if whats just the emulator, whats specific to my crazy code, and whats just .. broken.
Jan 20 17:46:13 <rwatkins> like say, typing into a password field occassionally flashes the page back to the splash screen on 3.2, but has the input duplicated and shifted right ~20px in 2.2
Jan 20 17:47:06 <fxspec06> unrelated to enyo, my input password field in webview is shifted off the mark
Jan 20 17:47:10 <rwatkins> or window.open() sometimes opens the browser app.  and sometimes doesnt.
Jan 20 17:47:55 <fxspec06> i've got window.open() to work consistently, however
Jan 20 17:48:28 <fxspec06> minego did say he had to revise some enyo code to get it to work, i forget what tho.
Jan 20 17:48:33 <rwatkins> in PhoneGap?
Jan 20 17:50:40 <fxspec06> he uses the PhoneGap, I don't
Jan 20 17:53:32 <rwatkins> hm
Jan 20 18:31:43 <fxspec06> holy crap i just got paid in euros
Jan 20 18:32:16 <fxspec06> AWESOMEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
Jan 20 18:35:59 <fxspec06> p.s. payday is sweet
Jan 20 18:51:17 <dwc-> rwatkins: re: burg's q and flash, there's an app in the catalog ... https://developer.palm.com/appredirect/?packageid=org.coolcode.flashviewer
Jan 20 18:51:42 * EricBlade1 just got paaaaaaaaaaid too
Jan 20 18:51:46 <EricBlade1> HAULIN ASS GETTIN PAID
Jan 20 18:52:21 <fxspec06> BOO YA
Jan 20 18:52:28 * fxspec06 HIGH FIVE
Jan 20 18:53:19 <rwatkins> dwc-: https://developer.palm.com/distribution/viewtopic.php?p=95125#p95125
Jan 20 18:55:53 <dwc-> I see
Jan 20 18:57:57 <dwc-> so you're telling me someone approved an app that explicitly states it is going to do that? :x
Jan 20 18:58:45 <rwatkins> wouldnt be a suprise.  like the bittorrent app screenshots showing ripped dvds
Jan 20 18:59:15 <dwc-> that doesn't seem like the same thing, but ok
Jan 20 18:59:16 <rwatkins> I suspect shipping a .swf in your app is different from creating a server on localhost to load ones already on the device.
Jan 20 18:59:45 <rwatkins> if you create a local webserver to load a swf that you dont ship in your apps its sandboxed.
Jan 20 19:00:11 <rwatkins> just saying .. some things get by the review team ...
Jan 20 19:02:20 <dwc-> gotcha
Jan 20 19:19:28 <EricBlade1> fxspec06: http://www.chapterthree.com/files/haulin.jpg
Jan 20 19:21:08 <EricBlade1> there was an app approved back around mid December I think that actually had iPhone screenshots
Jan 20 19:21:37 <dwc-> there's apps that mention iphone or android as if they just re-used the same description
Jan 20 19:22:08 <EricBlade1> yeah copy pasta descriptions are somewhat plentiful, but screenshots? really?
Jan 20 19:22:54 <EricBlade1> i spend like an hour or more editing up screenshots every time i do an app update, to make sure that my shots match what the reviewers (and users) will see, and some guy gets iPhone shots through.
Jan 20 19:26:05 <dwc-> sure
Jan 20 19:26:12 <dwc-> some people put more effort in
Jan 20 19:26:46 <sugardave> hey, I got _4_ euros!
Jan 20 19:26:53 <dwc-> I know I'm typically an outlier, but it does make a difference to me
Jan 20 19:27:01 <PuffTheMagic> has anyone used quicksearch/actions in enyo yet?
Jan 20 19:27:04 <dwc-> hey, that's good for a pint or two
Jan 20 19:27:32 <PuffTheMagic> i've added what I think is the required info to my appinfo
Jan 20 19:27:40 <PuffTheMagic> but when i just type i never see my app in the list
Jan 20 19:28:42 <fxspec06> lol it was first time i got paid in euros. i got like a hundred and change
Jan 20 19:28:55 <fxspec06> pretty sweet conversion rate :P
Jan 20 19:31:26 <PuffTheMagic> ahhh
Jan 20 19:31:29 <PuffTheMagic> had to enable it in the prefs
Jan 20 19:32:20 <summatusmentis> PuffTheMagic: are you making quicksearch in wterm?
Jan 20 19:32:32 <PuffTheMagic> quick actions
Jan 20 19:32:39 <PuffTheMagic> "execute in terminal" :D
Jan 20 19:34:51 <rwatkins> window close
Jan 20 19:34:57 <rwatkins> whoops
Jan 20 19:37:37 <summatusmentis> PuffTheMagic: it's be even cooler if you had something like "start in this dir"
Jan 20 19:37:43 <summatusmentis> as well as "execute in terminal"
Jan 20 19:38:29 <rwatkins> gnuclient this file to emacs in already running terminal
Jan 20 19:39:45 <summatusmentis> except, no one wants to use emacs >_>
Jan 20 19:41:14 <PuffTheMagic> summatusmentis, start in this dir is 3 chars faster than doing cd <start dir>
Jan 20 19:42:43 <summatusmentis> 3 CHARACTERS IS A BIG DEAL
Jan 20 19:43:07 <summatusmentis> it's the difference between a vi command or not
Jan 20 19:58:55 <Abyssul> Has anyone ever gotten captive portals to work for webOS? It feels redudent to type in my auth info every time I go to campus.
Jan 20 20:01:25 <fxspec06> i couldnt' get them to work yesterday.
Jan 20 20:01:42 <fxspec06> at my school, it never showed the login page
Jan 20 20:02:00 <fxspec06> it just showed a button 'i accept' then i hit it and it took me to a 'error' page
Jan 20 20:02:10 <Abyssul> accept the certificate?
Jan 20 20:02:41 <fxspec06> so i tried setting some window params from the browser command line using "javascript:enyo.setWindowParams();" but i couldn't figure out what the correct params were, and gave up.
Jan 20 20:03:30 <Abyssul> Mine shows the page and stuff, but half the time its buggy. Like it might take 5 seconds or sometimes it never detects the captive portal. Then when I do connect, I experience horrible battery usage.
Jan 20 20:03:52 <fxspec06> ya sometimes it jus don't even detect it
Jan 20 20:04:15 <fxspec06> then when it does, i'll be lucky if i can see the login page and / or log in
Jan 20 20:04:20 <Abyssul> It is supposed to connect to the palm website?
Jan 20 20:04:29 <Abyssul> when you hit the captive portal notification?
Jan 20 20:04:30 <fxspec06> no it's just the networking app
Jan 20 20:04:45 <fxspec06> i suppose could take a look at the source :P
Jan 20 20:04:55 <fxspec06> but i don't have time at the moment
Jan 20 20:05:04 <Abyssul> well yeah. Mine shows the Networking app and then it loads the palm.com website in a webview window
Jan 20 20:05:20 <fxspec06> s/time/i am busy doing some opinion analysis review for this essay
Jan 20 20:06:05 <fxspec06> heh well idk what it loads in the webview, i thought it was just a special page on the device in the networking app.
Jan 20 20:06:13 <fxspec06> interetsing to find out how it does it.
Jan 20 20:08:06 <PatrickC> SOPA is dead :)
Jan 20 20:08:19 <Abyssul> Yeah right
Jan 20 20:08:34 <PatrickC> take a look at the Verge
Jan 20 20:09:03 <PatrickC> or mobileRoundup
Jan 20 20:09:33 <fxspec06> whatever it is, it's not dead...
Jan 20 20:09:44 <fxspec06> it may taken a blow. it will never be dead
Jan 20 20:09:49 <Abyssul> Its delayed, not dead
Jan 20 20:10:12 <PatrickC> hence the (For now?) on the mobileRoundup one
Jan 20 20:11:10 <Abyssul> Patrick, wanna find out why the Networking app connects to palm.com to verify it is connected to the internet?
Jan 20 20:11:11 <PatrickC> Abyssul: I finally have a Sprint Pre2 :)
Jan 20 20:11:27 <PatrickC> Abyssul: huh? what do you mean>
Jan 20 20:11:39 <Abyssul> Have you used a captive portal
Jan 20 20:11:43 <Abyssul> (for wifi)
Jan 20 20:11:46 <PatrickC> yeah. but only open ones
Jan 20 20:11:51 <PatrickC> none that require a login
Jan 20 20:12:08 <Abyssul> How is that a captive portal then?
Jan 20 20:12:36 <PatrickC> well, I have to "agree to terms" etc. but no login creds needed
Jan 20 20:12:48 <Abyssul> Well that works
Jan 20 20:12:58 <Abyssul> When you click the captive notification, what happens?
Jan 20 20:13:48 <PatrickC> it opens up the captive portal app and lets me login
Jan 20 20:13:59 <PatrickC> 99% of the time works on the first try
Jan 20 20:14:22 <Abyssul> Weird. For me, tapping the captive portal notification shows the palm.com website
Jan 20 20:14:23 <PatrickC> this is on 2.1, 2.2.3, 2.2.4, 3.0.2, 3.0.4, 3.0.5
Jan 20 20:14:29 <PatrickC> odd
Jan 20 20:14:46 <Abyssul> My schools captive settings must be configured weirdly
Jan 20 20:15:02 <PatrickC> yeah. sounds like it
Jan 20 20:15:04 <Abyssul> Allowing certain internet traffic but not other
Jan 20 20:15:05 <PatrickC> what OS is this on?
Jan 20 20:15:36 <PatrickC> you can always try opening up google.com in the browser... it /should/ redirect you to the captive portal login page
Jan 20 20:15:37 <EricBlade> only problem i've had with captive is the hotel i was at at the beginning of the month sent me to a domain name with no .com, assuming that the browser would add it .. which of course fails miserably on touchpad
Jan 20 20:15:53 <PatrickC> lol
Jan 20 20:15:58 <Abyssul> No browser automatically adds the .com
Jan 20 20:16:08 <Abyssul> "www." yes
Jan 20 20:16:28 <EricBlade> most every browser will attempt .com, .org, .net if there's no nameserver match without it
Jan 20 20:16:31 <PatrickC> a hotel I stayed at at the end of December I had to call IT and they had to manually add my IP to the server.. they said "They knew the TouchPad didnt' play nice with their servers"
Jan 20 20:17:02 <PatrickC> for captive portals*
Jan 20 20:17:33 * PatrickC needs a new app idea...
Jan 20 20:17:35 <PatrickC> suggestions?
Jan 20 20:17:50 <Abyssul> Theres all kinds of threads in the nation forums
Jan 20 20:17:57 <EricBlade> netflix
Jan 20 20:18:01 <PatrickC> I was browsing some last night..
Jan 20 20:18:11 <PatrickC> EricBlade: haha.. very funny...
Jan 20 20:18:12 <PatrickC> lol
Jan 20 20:18:53 <PatrickC> Abyssul: most of those threads I saw were kinda old..
Jan 20 20:19:00 <PatrickC> like "TouchPad first launching" old
Jan 20 20:19:31 <EricBlade> doesn't mean people don't want them
Jan 20 20:19:55 <PatrickC> most of them had already been done
Jan 20 20:22:02 <PatrickC> http://feedback.hootsuite.com/forums/90351-hootsuite-misc-mobile/suggestions/521791-make-an-app-for-webos-
Jan 20 21:22:15 * halfhalo yawns
Jan 20 21:29:37 <summatusmentis> turns out, 15-20 PDFs open at a time is too much for an OCd TouchPad
Jan 20 21:32:12 <fxspec06> that'd be too much for a lot of PC's
Jan 20 21:33:03 <summatusmentis> FFFFFFFFF.... TP just rebooted
Jan 20 21:33:07 <summatusmentis> I needed those
Jan 20 21:40:14 <PuffTheMagic> https://github.com/PuffTheMagic/wTerm/raw/master/screenshots/just_type.png
Jan 20 21:40:40 <summatusmentis> +1
Jan 20 21:41:07 <summatusmentis> PuffTheMagic: hurry up with your pdf.js stuff, my TP just rebooted because I had buttloads of PDFs open
Jan 20 21:41:15 <summatusmentis> BE MY OWN PERSONAL DEVELOPER
Jan 20 21:41:37 * PatrickC thinks ne found a good idea for a new app...
Jan 20 21:42:15 <summatusmentis> PatrickC: do tell
Jan 20 21:42:22 <summatusmentis> it's only a good idea if I'd use it
Jan 20 21:42:24 <summatusmentis> >_>
Jan 20 21:42:38 <PatrickC> google maps in enyo
Jan 20 21:42:38 <summatusmentis> *hint* Google Music
Jan 20 21:42:47 <PatrickC> I hate bing maps lol
Jan 20 21:42:59 <PatrickC> is there an official google music API?
Jan 20 21:43:05 <summatusmentis> nope
Jan 20 21:43:37 <PatrickC> I need to get used to using official api's before making my own ;-)
Jan 20 21:43:51 <summatusmentis> it's not making your own
Jan 20 21:44:02 <summatusmentis> you'd just have to reverse-engineer google's unofficial api
Jan 20 21:44:14 <PatrickC> *or using undocumented API
Jan 20 21:44:31 <PatrickC> **officially undocumented
Jan 20 21:45:03 <PatrickC>   brb gotta get stuff out of the garage...
Jan 20 21:46:09 <halfhalo> this webcam mic is really sensitive...
Jan 20 21:49:26 <dwc-> summatusmentis: at least the pdfs are downloaded and saved locally
Jan 20 22:04:12 <summatusmentis> dwc-: it's true
Jan 20 23:36:35 * PatrickC will start on MyMaps tonight
Jan 20 23:51:35 <PatrickC> *whew* I can charge for the maps app as long as it is used in a mobile setting
Jan 20 23:56:12 <halfhalo> lolz
Jan 21 00:00:42 <PatrickC> "For the TouchPad, Google location services are used to provide WiFi fixes. This requires users to set Google services to ON. However, this does not apply to a 3G TouchPad, which has a GPS chip and a modem."
Jan 21 00:00:51 <PatrickC> AHA they admit there is a 3G touchpad lol
Jan 21 00:09:33 <RagingMind> well yeah.  a few lucky people managed to order and receive them
Jan 21 00:10:18 <RagingMind> wait. I may be thinking of the white ones
Jan 21 00:19:30 * halfhalo yawns
Jan 21 00:22:11 <rwhitby> PatrickC: the 3G TouchPad was sold by AT&T - why would they not admit it?
Jan 21 00:23:23 <rwatkins> where was it sold by AT&T?  to the public?
Jan 21 00:23:33 <rwhitby> yes, for a very short time.
Jan 21 00:23:57 <Tibfib_> I didn't think it was…
Jan 21 00:24:02 <Tibfib_> got any proof?
Jan 21 00:24:06 <rwhitby> ask TopTongueBarry about it
Jan 21 00:25:19 <PatrickC> rwatkins, didnt know that..
Jan 21 00:25:22 <PatrickC> rwhitby*
Jan 21 00:25:24 <rwatkins> for a very short time - like to just himself.
Jan 21 00:25:46 <rwhitby> http://articles.businessinsider.com/2011-08-08/tech/29964384_1_at-t-ghz-touchpad
Jan 21 00:26:03 <rwhitby> apparantly if you did actually pre-order it, you finally got one
Jan 21 00:26:19 <PatrickC> cool
Jan 21 00:26:28 * PatrickC didnt have the money to preorder it
Jan 21 00:26:51 * PatrickC goes to start on the MyMaps app
Jan 21 00:27:20 <halfhalo> 3g has gps which is win.
Jan 21 00:27:34 <rwhitby> Barry got four of them, and I bought one of them off him.
Jan 21 00:28:14 <Tibfib_> ah, interesting
Jan 21 00:29:05 <rwhitby> obviously at $700, not many folks purchased them
Jan 21 00:39:16 <edude03> That means the units are floating around somewhere then
Jan 21 00:39:38 <dwc-> yea, to whomever hp/palm employees sold them to
Jan 21 00:40:16 <edude03> I'd buy one for like 3/400 if I found find one
Jan 21 00:46:56 <PatrickC> ugh.. i hate it when the palm documentation examples dont work...
Jan 21 00:47:08 <fxspec06> i'd buy one for $1
Jan 21 00:47:15 <Tibfib_> aye^
Jan 21 00:47:50 <PatrickC> or when specific enyo params dont work on phones....
Jan 21 00:48:28 <PatrickC> and i really dont want to have to build the app in mojo...
Jan 21 00:52:00 <PatrickC> well, mymaps is dead in the water for now till i can figure out why enyo.gps dont work...
Jan 21 00:52:04 <PatrickC> on phones*
Jan 21 00:55:32 <fxspec06> didn't you just start it?
Jan 21 00:55:52 * fxspec06 smh
Jan 21 00:59:33 <guy44> isnt
Jan 21 00:59:40 <guy44> webOS dead now
Jan 21 00:59:45 <guy44> ?
Jan 21 01:00:00 * sugardave checks webOS's pulse.
Jan 21 01:00:05 <sugardave> dammit!
Jan 21 01:00:11 <sugardave> my funny joke is now ruined
Jan 21 01:00:39 <fxspec06> o_O
Jan 21 01:01:27 <fxspec06> if webos is alive, then that raises the question: what is ios and android?
Jan 21 01:01:35 <fxspec06> mega-alive?
Jan 21 01:06:04 <PatrickC> fxspec06, the getCurrentPosition doesnt work on phones
Jan 21 01:06:12 <PatrickC> at least not the way its documented on their sire
Jan 21 01:07:49 <PatrickC> site*
Jan 21 01:07:58 * oil has some webos zombie stickers here somewhere
Jan 21 01:24:11 <Hewball> my touchpad 4g is this http://xkcd.com/281/
Jan 21 01:31:45 <EricBlade> ugh.. the audio problem just struck on my daughter's touchpad.. makes skype impossible to use
Jan 21 01:38:06 <Tibfib_> to jailbreak, or to not jailbreak. that is the question
Jan 21 01:40:11 <dwc-> jailbreak
Jan 21 01:40:37 <Tibfib_> on my new 4S though, that is the risk
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