**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Tue Jan 24 02:59:57 2012 Jan 24 03:01:07 lenngray, JavaScript or C++ would be your best bet Jan 24 03:01:43 I loaded the sun-jvm 7u2 and it runs fine. It even compiles Scala 2.9.1. I just haven't come across how to connect to the graphics system. Jan 24 03:02:36 I think there is SDL bindings Jan 24 03:02:39 webOS uses SDL Jan 24 03:02:48 I'll check into that much. Jan 24 03:02:52 http://www.joshondesign.com/2011/08/31/java-sdl-avian-webos-magically-delicious/ Jan 24 03:03:15 josh is likely your guy for this sort of approach Jan 24 03:04:17 Thanks. Jan 24 03:07:34 android market place requires an app icon thats 512x512. wtf Jan 24 03:07:51 must be if they decide to use it for the front page Jan 24 03:08:31 I think those are for the "feature" and "promotional" graphics Jan 24 03:08:45 which fortunately are optional Jan 24 03:13:55 anyone know what a ".sdf" file is? Jan 24 03:14:18 http://www.fileinfo.com/extension/sdf Jan 24 03:19:30 hmm. not particularly helpful. *investigates more thoroughly* Jan 24 03:21:45 EricBlade1: iirc doesn't Visual Stdio use those? Jan 24 03:23:20 or SQL CE files it looks like Jan 24 03:23:48 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SQL_Server_Compact#File_Format Jan 24 03:39:37 blah. I think I'm going to give up on this quest, once I see the several megabytes of platform specific code Jan 24 03:39:47 i don't have time to deal with that Jan 24 04:06:12 http://www.webosroundup.com/2012/01/cyanogenmod-9-alpha-0-5-available-for-download/ Jan 24 04:09:58 PatrickC how stable is it? Jan 24 04:10:05 just installed 0.5 Jan 24 04:10:15 been running 0 for the past week Jan 24 04:10:23 i was the person who did the original article on WOR Jan 24 04:10:46 ah Jan 24 04:10:57 pretty stable in my opinion Jan 24 04:11:17 how many times has it crashed this week? :P Jan 24 04:11:33 0 actually Jan 24 04:11:38 it is really good on battery too Jan 24 04:11:53 oh wow Jan 24 04:12:15 cause i remember the cm7 crashed quite frequently on me Jan 24 04:12:18 there are some games (like Asphalt 6 HD) that dont run perfectly Jan 24 04:12:20 but they run Jan 24 04:12:21 no Jan 24 04:12:24 this is nothing like cm7 Jan 24 04:12:39 take everything u knew about cm7 and practically throw it out the window (imo) Jan 24 04:12:44 haha ok Jan 24 04:12:54 do they have hardware acceleration? Jan 24 04:12:58 (yet) Jan 24 04:12:59 alpha 0 was more stable then cm7 alpha 3.5 Jan 24 04:13:06 looks like it to me Jan 24 04:13:09 its super fast Jan 24 04:13:24 um.... an ice cream sounds good about now :P Jan 24 04:13:38 lol Jan 24 04:14:09 i might install it and then try building it as well to see if they need/want any help Jan 24 04:14:21 im sure they could always use help Jan 24 04:14:25 #cyanogenmod-touchpad Jan 24 04:15:36 yeah, i probably will. right now im working to get my distributed chat client done Jan 24 05:25:01 i thought words with friends ran fine on CM9, but last night it puked hardcore. Jan 24 05:25:17 lol Jan 24 05:25:43 tried alpha 0.5? Jan 24 05:25:57 it forgot about it's facebook integration, so i had to setup a Games with Friends account from my iPod, where i originally signed up, and then link my facebook, iPad, iPod, and the CM7 TouchPad to that .. and I lost a half dozen games or so Jan 24 05:26:39 and then on top of it, it takes about 30 minutes for it to pickup new moves, long after all the other platforms have received it. Lots of ICS users on the WWF reviews complaining about that Jan 24 05:27:06 I havent, just found out about it. Have YOU? Jan 24 05:27:23 yes i have :) Jan 24 05:27:31 i was the writer of the WOR article :P Jan 24 05:27:52 does Netflix, Dungeon Defenders, or Words with Friends work? Jan 24 05:28:03 not sure Jan 24 05:28:06 dont use any of those Jan 24 05:28:15 well, that's all I care about :P Jan 24 05:29:04 :P Jan 24 05:29:48 graphics on asphalt 6 hd are still slow Jan 24 05:32:27 my tests on Unreal were showing that it seemed to run full speed, however, all I had was a "test" level, not a demonstration or anything. So at least 3D accel is functioning. Jan 24 05:32:55 it functions, yes. not well in my experiences Jan 24 05:33:06 enyo scrolling any better under CM9 than CM7? Jan 24 05:33:22 it wasn't in alpha 0 Jan 24 05:33:35 :/ Jan 24 05:33:36 not sure Jan 24 05:33:38 havent tried Jan 24 05:33:44 rwatkins: you have a non-TouchPad Android to try that out on? Jan 24 05:34:03 only a Nexus S w/ ICS at the moment Jan 24 05:34:14 thats something :) Jan 24 05:34:57 I think that PhoneGap is quite broken as far as whatever the hell Enyo does for scrolling. Considering how bad Enyo's scrolling is on webOS devices as a whole, I'm thinking that whatever concept they are using should be shot. Jan 24 05:35:17 ya, but on the phone multiview is triggered adn the 3 sliding panes turn into full screen views. Jan 24 05:35:18 However, I don't know enough to write my own :( Jan 24 05:35:43 I dont think the blame there is PhoneGap, its android's webview w/ Enyo Jan 24 05:36:40 either way, i think it points to something very .. not well supported.. Jan 24 05:36:44 I think its fairly unlikely PhoneGap is screwing with the scrolling or the touch events, and more likely Android's version of webkit that they allow embedding in. Jan 24 05:37:01 yes, clearly they wrote Enyo 1.0 to one specific platform. Jan 24 05:37:27 plan wasnt exactly "ah yes, lets make sure perf is good on all competing platforms when its only going to ship on our webkit implementation". Jan 24 05:37:38 and it works reasonably well on TouchPad. It works tolerably well on webOS as a whole. It a complete mess elsewhere outside of Chrome. Jan 24 05:38:19 I wonder what happens if you PhoneGap with webOS as a target Jan 24 05:38:28 your desktop has slightly more horsepower to overcome perf issues, and a much more optimized browser implemetation. Jan 24 05:38:52 never tried, but I assuem all you get is the .js file as a shim to the actual webOS services. Jan 24 05:39:09 Maybe the HP guys have figured out something different with 1.1. Jan 24 05:39:41 Remember hearing about all that Enyo being shown off on iOS stuff back when I first came around? I don't believe that for a second, if the performance is like it is on Android Jan 24 05:40:41 different os implementation and I totally believe it Jan 24 05:41:09 ben pointed out specific perf issues in Enyo in webOS because they optimized to the iOS browser earlier on. which ended up being a mistake Jan 24 05:43:50 https://twitter.com/#!/mattsmcnulty/status/161637597414825984 Jan 24 05:44:40 took me like 45 min to get an apk signed for release. jesus. Jan 24 05:50:55 ... ? you mean, for market release? Jan 24 05:51:51 well i cant put it to market yet w/o enyo open source licensed, but wanted to make real release builds for testing. Jan 24 06:03:48 * halfhalo yawns Jan 24 06:07:00 hey halfhalo Jan 24 06:07:10 do u happen to know the age for interning at HP? Jan 24 06:07:39 PatrickC: most states at least require that you be 16, and large corporations may require 18 Jan 24 06:07:50 lets go with that Jan 24 06:07:51 I don't know HP specifically, obviously, but yeah Jan 24 06:08:25 I know that GSoC, for example, requires that you be 18 Jan 24 06:08:38 also, i doubt the webos group is hiring interns right now, at least according to their interwebs Jan 24 06:13:30 looks like I may be able to go back this summer tho. so there is that Jan 24 06:13:45 neat Jan 24 06:13:55 I have to find some sort of job this summer Jan 24 06:14:52 Jobs are good, mkay? Jan 24 06:15:12 Apparently I get that fancy stuff that being a government employee provides right now tho Jan 24 06:15:25 so... mebe a pension in like 20 years? Jan 24 06:15:26 I mean, yes, but I was hoping to be able to have my advisor fund me, and be able to do research Jan 24 06:15:37 On second though, screw pension Jan 24 06:15:48 instead, I have to bug all the big tech companies to fund me and let me work on research instead Jan 24 06:15:56 what type of research work? Jan 24 06:16:05 I'm a CS PhD student Jan 24 06:16:15 in Human Computer Interaction Jan 24 06:16:19 I'm sorry Jan 24 06:16:29 so "social computing" type stuff, ideally Jan 24 06:16:39 I generally like it Jan 24 06:17:37 phd is waaayyyy to much time for me to want to deal with it right now Jan 24 06:17:53 can't be a professor without it Jan 24 06:18:08 I like the potential for self-direction and "doing whatever you want" that it offers Jan 24 06:18:19 sure you can! in mexico! Jan 24 06:18:58 I don't even think that's true Jan 24 06:19:16 its mexico. Jan 24 06:19:55 I think the requirements there are "PhD, and child of a drug lord" Jan 24 07:44:04 hmm. ben recently commented that "a lot of" enyo was developed on iPads. Via a web server, not via Phonegap Jan 24 07:47:27 for iOS the difference between Safari and any other app hosting webkit is usually the just the Jit, and possibly hardware acceleration of rendering Jan 24 07:47:50 for Android it means actual feature differences - like no html5 audio support in the embedded webview Jan 24 07:49:05 "iOS's JavaScriptKit tends to perform better in a lot of ways than the Google V8 engine for the kind of JS code running in Enyo." .. so.. yeah. Jan 24 07:49:07 the big perf issue is not likely just raw JS engine performance, but the interaction with the DOM. Jan 24 07:49:25 agree wholeheartedly Jan 24 07:49:36 ya, he raised that issue at a NYC webOS dev meeting a couple months back. Jan 24 07:51:13 if i'm going to port, i'm going to need better performance than what i'm able to get out of phone gap. it's not like i'm doing any kind of processing at all Jan 24 07:51:32 and if i can't port, i don't have the time to redevelop Jan 24 07:52:28 again, its not likely phonegap, its the webkit and js engine implementation. Jan 24 07:52:56 you can write your own entire implementation of a webview app wrapper from scratch, and it would be no faster. Jan 24 07:53:56 i understand that, but i'm not going to release an app in an environment where it runs noticeably slower than my Pre- Jan 24 07:54:17 bitch at Apple or Google for their poor webkit/js implementation or Enyo for poor performance on those platforms. has nothing to do with phonegap. Jan 24 07:55:22 the tweet i linked to earlier hints that work is now going on in Enyo to be better cross platform, not just webOS 3. Jan 24 07:56:39 it also depends on what you use. if you use scrollers or have a bunch of resizing, its slow. other things are plenty fast. Jan 24 07:57:01 some argueably faster on same hardware. Jan 24 07:57:15 i hope so :) with some proper interface reskinning to match the environments, gvoice and xo could be quite nice additions to the iOS catalog especially Jan 24 07:57:49 i dont think skinning to try and mimic the native controls is likely Jan 24 07:58:12 its a losing game, because they're never quite the same and users notice Jan 24 07:58:41 i'll just use android Jan 24 07:58:41 :D Jan 24 07:59:15 I think stripping down the default look of enyo components is the better approach, and let app developers add more of a look and feel to them themselves Jan 24 07:59:31 are people actively developing webos apps, honestly? Jan 24 07:59:43 the userbase just isn't there, from what i can tell Jan 24 07:59:52 SoulShadow: 15 new today in the catalog on touchpad, 10 on phone Jan 24 07:59:55 using enyo right now for an internal prototyping of an android/ios/rim app Jan 24 08:00:13 EricBlade now out of those, how many are *useful* Jan 24 08:00:34 * EricBlade shrugs depends on what you find useful i suppose Jan 24 08:00:48 what % of the apps added today to iOS or Android are *useful*? Jan 24 08:00:53 not much i bet. Jan 24 08:01:09 rwatkins but the number of actual apps would be higher :) Jan 24 08:01:32 yes, actual apps is higher. Jan 24 08:01:41 honestly, after using the touchpad, as much as i like the idea of webos, i think palm dropped the ball in terms of performance, by a longshot Jan 24 08:01:52 the hardware in the touchpad is very capable Jan 24 08:01:59 there are also more actual apps on windows than osx. but does it matter? Jan 24 08:02:00 and it runs so slow without preware it's not even funny Jan 24 08:02:01 i think i'd puke if the webOS store became full of "AAA 1000 kitten wallpaper"s Jan 24 08:02:09 iOS is too many apps these days hard to find the one out of 25 for same thing that does what you want Jan 24 08:02:36 on the other hand, seeing that "AAA 1000 kitten wallpaper" apps actually sell, maybe i'll get into that business Jan 24 08:02:37 but hey, if you need an app to read your UUID for you, there are a few dozen. lots of apps. Jan 24 08:03:06 just get a bunch of almost-nude women Jan 24 08:03:08 as wallpapers Jan 24 08:03:11 and sell it for 99c Jan 24 08:03:50 oh dear Jan 24 08:03:51 but yeah, the touchpad really soured me on webos Jan 24 08:04:19 i don't know how much i blame palm or hp Jan 24 08:04:23 SoulShadow: what OS version? Jan 24 08:04:27 front page on iPad app store, when sorted by date, "A Boxed Chicken HD". It's icon is a cartoon chicken, with a sign behind it that says "BOXED COCK" Jan 24 08:04:32 3.0.4 was much faster Jan 24 08:04:33 but palm is known for great UI with slow performance Jan 24 08:04:38 3.0.4, Hewball Jan 24 08:04:50 3.0.4 doesn't hold a candle to Android 4.0 Jan 24 08:05:35 if you want 37 bazallion settings to tweak, Android 4.0 is the OS for you Jan 24 08:05:43 does my mom need facial recognition? no. Jan 24 08:05:48 you don't need to tweak anything Jan 24 08:05:53 plain text isnt hard to render Jan 24 08:05:54 or enable facial recognition. Jan 24 08:06:08 you dont need to, but there are way too many settings offered to tweak. Jan 24 08:06:25 "Aaaah! Chestnut POP! HD" ... "Do you like popping chestnut? Show what you can do as you pop chestnut as fast as you can." Jan 24 08:06:35 wouldn't you rather have LOTS of settings than no settings? Jan 24 08:06:47 i would, the average consumer would not. Jan 24 08:06:57 go look at Microsoft Word. Jan 24 08:06:57 average consumer probably never opens settings. Jan 24 08:07:10 word has a metric shit ton of settings. Jan 24 08:07:14 Android is geeks gone wild. Jan 24 08:07:17 i can never find what i'm looking for Jan 24 08:07:30 its an OS built by geeks for geeks. Jan 24 08:07:39 i find android so not user friendly Jan 24 08:07:40 but a lot of non-geeks use android Jan 24 08:07:42 and love it Jan 24 08:07:54 so obviously they're on to something Jan 24 08:08:02 lots of people used windows 98, didnt make it great. Jan 24 08:08:13 no, but they're choosing to buy an android device Jan 24 08:08:22 over a wp7 device, a bbos device, an ios device. Jan 24 08:08:27 And the "BOXED COCK" app is by a guy named "Hung Luo"... wow Jan 24 08:08:36 it's not like there's no choice. Jan 24 08:08:45 should give android to my 3 year old see if he can work it out instantly like he did iOS and webOS Jan 24 08:09:00 ya, free android phone, or $200 iOS phone. Jan 24 08:09:09 Hewball: doesn't it depress you when kids can figure out shit easier than you can? Jan 24 08:09:15 guess which one most of middle class america is gonna buy. Jan 24 08:09:25 rwatkins: i was more referring to same price. Jan 24 08:09:49 SoulShadow: nah its the 18 month old working out how to open the peekaboo app and play peekaboo on the touchpad that scary Jan 24 08:09:50 android marketshare is not due to their top tier devices tht match the iPhone. Jan 24 08:10:21 its due to the cheaper tiers and that carriers and hardware manufactures are all over it because its free and they can load it up with all the crap they want on it. Jan 24 08:10:32 i don't get the appeal of the iphone Jan 24 08:10:33 i just don't Jan 24 08:10:58 plus ios 5 is plagued with its own issues Jan 24 08:11:02 i get the appeal. its blatently a more polished device. Jan 24 08:11:15 ..have you used a galaxy nexus? Jan 24 08:11:17 i'm just asking Jan 24 08:11:26 it doesnt do everything under the sun, but what it does, it does consistnely well. Jan 24 08:11:53 i have a nexus s with ICS, I've used several android devices, I've worked for mobile companies for 5 years. Jan 24 08:11:56 looks like iOS's updates today are 32 pages of kids games, magazines, four different "Dot Lock" apps, and cock games. Jan 24 08:12:08 a lot of people i've seen with apple devices isn't because it's 'better' it's because it's 'popular' and what 'everyone else has' Jan 24 08:12:21 sure iphones are also status devices Jan 24 08:12:24 aka the 'easy choice' Jan 24 08:12:36 some people also buy the gucci purse. Jan 24 08:12:50 some people have more money than brains. Jan 24 08:12:56 s/some/most Jan 24 08:13:03 i like to find those people in poker rooms Jan 24 08:13:18 ALL IN ON JACK FIVE Jan 24 08:13:44 and then three jacks. Jan 24 08:14:49 yeah, last time i played, i went all-in UTG for $96 on my second round at the table with AA, guy next to me says "You've been playing tight all night" and then calls with 52, and runs out a 6 high straight Jan 24 08:15:26 52 is a monster, you'll never see it coming Jan 24 08:15:51 lol Jan 24 08:18:33 for some bizarre reason, my gf wouldn't let me hit the ATM to reload :( Jan 24 16:26:02 I forgot how slow usbdrive mode on my pre+ is... *sigh* Jan 24 16:40:12 Is Carbon worth paying the 2.99 or should I stick with phnx? Jan 24 16:52:55 http://jalopnik.com/5878570/and-this-winters-worst-driver-is Jan 24 17:39:15 Satellite: it all comes down to personal preferences Jan 24 19:23:24 * EricBlade1 yawns Jan 24 19:50:31 EricBlade1: you shouldn't Jan 24 19:50:45 EricBlade1: it makes other people yawn too Jan 24 19:50:52 lol Jan 24 19:51:28 * PatrickC wishes he could make his friend feel how a dev feels whem something is pirated... Jan 24 19:51:35 when* Jan 24 19:52:07 just date his sister, that'll show him Jan 24 19:52:22 his aister ia like 10... lol Jan 24 19:52:33 sister...* Jan 24 19:52:49 gah.. back to webos i go :-P Jan 24 19:53:52 * PatrickC wonders if he's still in here after shutting down YAAIC on android.. Jan 24 19:54:49 Cwayne: his main "issue" is that he believes that it isn't "pirating" its people "sharing" their apps Jan 24 19:55:35 PatrickC: hah, well i work in a company where we give our main product away for free, so pirating software still seems funny to me :P Jan 24 19:57:05 lol Jan 24 19:57:47 Zite is awesome! Jan 24 19:57:56 (and on webOS before Android :) ) Jan 24 19:58:22 apple turns 28 today.. Jan 24 20:23:31 PatrickC: i don't tend to feel bad when my software is pirated, depends on what though Jan 24 20:23:48 Anyone in here worked with offline maps? Jan 24 20:23:54 PatrickC: i've sent people tasks@hand which told me that it was hard to get or that told me they didn't want to pay for it Jan 24 20:24:04 so you don't feel bad that people are technically stealing from u? Jan 24 20:24:10 PatrickC: not at all Jan 24 20:24:20 PatrickC: thing is: if webos would've succeeded, i'd have made money Jan 24 20:24:24 webos has flunked, i have lost money Jan 24 20:24:41 the difference of the 10% to 90% that would copy my application really doesn't make that much of a difference Jan 24 20:24:50 I understand the "hard to get" aspect.. but.. Jan 24 20:25:06 you should look at buying something as influencing the market Jan 24 20:25:27 if you buy tasks@hand you're implying that you like the type of application and that you want more of the likes Jan 24 20:25:40 to me, pirating says "your app should be free. you don't deserve my money" Jan 24 20:26:16 note: i'm not saying that people should pirate applications Jan 24 20:26:33 yeah. I know : Jan 24 20:26:34 what i'm saying is: people should look at the money they spend on virtual goods, to be money spent on influencing the market Jan 24 20:26:37 :) * Jan 24 20:26:49 http://a2.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/404198_2872277199895_1048858191_3012971_883711459_n.jpg Jan 24 20:26:51 if you buy a cd of a local band, you're supporting local bands, not just that single band Jan 24 20:26:56 i had to park next to that guy.. was too easy Jan 24 20:27:08 he pirates cause he doesn't want to pay for them. he has the money Jan 24 20:27:13 he followed me out of the store, i should have commented on his spelling Jan 24 20:27:17 LoL Jan 24 20:27:49 lol Jan 24 20:28:00 I'm assuming your car is the amazing one on the right? Jan 24 20:28:05 hah yes Jan 24 20:28:10 or that awesome truck in the middle? :P Jan 24 20:28:11 the japanese car Jan 24 20:28:18 lol Jan 24 20:28:24 * PatrickC has no car :/ Jan 24 20:28:57 PatrickC: another thing in my mind is that i prefer people to use the application if possible. i'm seriously considering to open source it or to set the price to 0. i'm not willing to open source if no one is doing any effort in updating the app for whatever. i do always respond to those that want to extend it. Jan 24 20:28:59 ive owned american (except for a honda civic) i enjoy my subaru the most of any of them. if im a trader then so be it :P Jan 24 20:29:06 * madnificent loves his old wreck Jan 24 20:29:25 traitor, i guess Jan 24 20:29:45 i quite enjoy my ford now :) Jan 24 20:29:53 dawm: I like Toyota supras.. so I guess I'm a traitor :P Jan 24 20:29:59 lol Jan 24 20:30:17 madnificent: if an app is open source, I have no problem using it without paying for me Jan 24 20:30:19 it* Jan 24 20:30:33 its when they're closed source it gets on my nerves Jan 24 20:30:42 if California wasn't so stupid I'd get a Diesel Subaru Forrester. Jan 24 20:30:47 dawm: what about Nissan? I like those too :) Jan 24 20:30:54 across from the ford focus assembly plant (not far from where i live) theres a UAW hall with a BIG sign out front saying 'FORIEGN VEHICLES NOT ALLOWED ON THIS PROPERTY' Jan 24 20:30:54 PatrickC: it makes little difference in my mind, i once had a similar opinion though Jan 24 20:31:01 ka6sox-away: solution: move to a different state ;) Jan 24 20:31:02 one day i will get a picture of my car under that sign :P Jan 24 20:31:18 ka6sox-away: hey, did you run into jorge last week? Jan 24 20:31:20 hha Jan 24 20:31:47 i had a toyota forever til i bought my mustang Jan 24 20:31:49 dawm: I live close to the Nissan plant.. so.. there are a lot of Nissan cars around here Jan 24 20:31:51 they are nice Jan 24 20:31:56 cwayne: year?? Jan 24 20:32:00 3020 Jan 24 20:32:01 (of the mustang) Jan 24 20:32:02 2010 even Jan 24 20:32:07 FUTURE Jan 24 20:32:08 lol Jan 24 20:32:15 i don't quite understand what the issue is with buying a car which is designed elsewhere but manufactured locally Jan 24 20:32:16 nissan and subaru share misc parts. my hvac and door window switchs are all nissan Jan 24 20:32:17 GT? (the amazing one) Jan 24 20:32:39 PatrickC: nah, it is convertible though Jan 24 20:32:39 isn't that just as good? you don't have the high transportation costs of the vehicle (so you don't necessarily destroy the environment) and you get the car you want. Jan 24 20:32:46 what does the tag on it matter? Jan 24 20:33:00 i mean, to me the tag matters to the extent that i like the way their cars drive, but that's about it Jan 24 20:33:32 i'd buy the new shikomokamang (no, that doesn't exist) car if i liked it just as easily Jan 24 20:33:34 cwayne, yes, I had a good talk with both him and Clint. Got some really good insight, Jan 24 20:33:37 mm... 5L V8.... Jan 24 20:33:37 they think of it as jobs Jan 24 20:33:46 which is dumb too Jan 24 20:33:59 ka6sox-away: nice! Jan 24 20:34:23 if you want jobs, then stop promoting the global economy Jan 24 20:34:24 * halfhalo has his eyes on a 07 335i conv... mmmmm.... Jan 24 20:35:02 and that goes out explicitly towards americans. always influencing others into accepting all sorts of gross scams and then crying that no one wants to buy their completely inferior and underinnovative products. Jan 24 20:35:07 it is a shame Jan 24 20:35:18 halfhalo: i'd sign for that in under a second :P Jan 24 20:36:03 halfhalo: though personally, i find the model before that prettier (i'm not a Bangle fan) Jan 24 20:36:22 07 is hardtop. Jan 24 20:36:37 E46, i think Jan 24 20:36:55 the E90 is a rational choice, i'm not commenting on that :P Jan 24 20:37:19 also, the E46 never got a 335i. the engine didn't exist back then (and it is a lovely engine) Jan 24 20:41:39 lol Jan 24 20:41:52 http://a4.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc7/s320x320/383955_168589639904246_100002596328989_296250_2073075723_n.jpg Jan 24 20:42:07 that image on fb has stirred up quite the comment battle Jan 24 20:42:14 sti vs srt vs honda .. lol seriously? Jan 24 20:42:30 http://www.facebook.com/permalink.php?story_fbid=276707015728844&id=181702901841506 Jan 24 20:44:31 time to uninstall KDE Jan 24 20:54:04 http://www.facesmash.com/ Jan 24 20:54:45 dawm: wtf Jan 24 20:54:59 woo 360hdd is in Jan 24 20:55:15 hotdp, i have no idea Jan 24 20:55:36 for some reason it popped into my head (Facebook movie) and i figured id see what was there Jan 24 20:55:42 this looks mega old Jan 24 20:56:11 yer Jan 24 20:56:21 I was looking for timestamp in the source Jan 24 20:56:22 should i take the time to throw in my 7200 100gb in? i'd need to put linux on a flash drive and unscrew my laptop to take out raid, then boot to linux, format the hdd for 360, and re-assemble raid ... o_O Jan 24 20:56:38 http://www.facesmash.com/masthead.gif Jan 24 20:57:03 * PatrickC could have had a SSD for under $40 today.. Jan 24 20:57:04 looks like 2007 Jan 24 20:57:06 brand new Jan 24 20:57:27 :o Jan 24 20:57:31 was thinking 2000 Jan 24 20:57:33 PatrickC: and Jan 24 20:57:51 didnt buy it.. it was only 32 gb.. :/ Jan 24 20:58:09 but still.. SSDs have came down in price. i just bought a 32GB flash drive for almost that much Jan 24 20:58:10 i could have a mclaren f1 for only $200k Jan 24 20:58:11 i looked on archive.org Jan 24 20:58:13 brand new Jan 24 20:58:17 first hit was in 2007 but it was a parking page Jan 24 20:58:23 but ddnt buy because it was only v10 -_- Jan 24 20:58:26 2011 was the first time it had content.. Jan 24 20:58:30 http://web.archive.org/web/20110202122232/http://facesmash.com/ Jan 24 20:59:12 http://www.facebook.com/#!/pages/FaceSmashcom/145974668794363 Jan 24 20:59:49 lol Jan 24 20:59:56 facebook copyrighted the word 'face' ? Jan 24 21:00:12 *facetmpalm* Jan 24 21:00:27 Founded Jan 24 21:00:27 23 January2011 Jan 24 21:00:32 lol 1 year and a day.. im awesome Jan 24 21:00:50 http://www.whoodini.com/ is what they renamed to Jan 24 21:05:14 woo http://i.imgur.com/wWljR.jpg Jan 24 21:06:09 yay! Jan 24 21:06:16 pizza party at Bryans place! Jan 24 21:06:34 yay! well, not really Jan 24 21:06:48 unless i set the transparency on that red block to anhything but 100% Jan 24 21:07:28 i could find it Jan 24 21:07:31 i know you have a black 2007 nissan sentra Jan 24 21:07:49 lol Jan 24 21:07:56 yeah, you probably could Jan 24 21:08:02 probably wouldn't take you very long, either Jan 24 21:08:10 you would be surprised what google can do these days Jan 24 21:08:10 what you gonna do? PLAY XBOX W/ ME Jan 24 21:08:25 psh w.e Jan 24 21:08:36 i'm postered everywhere. if anyone wants to kill me, i'll die. Jan 24 21:09:10 easiest way is domain registration Jan 24 21:09:38 p.s. the picture on google earth is of a 2008 black sentra. so if you're looking at that one, you've found the wrong house =P Jan 24 21:09:50 lol Jan 24 21:09:58 i got that from facebook you tard Jan 24 21:10:33 and if you tweet with geotags, that makes it easier Jan 24 21:10:42 lol i kno Jan 24 21:11:07 i don't care too much, but i won't intentionally post my complete address to make it easier Jan 24 21:11:27 dawm: you live down the road from me? Jan 24 21:11:58 do i? Jan 24 21:12:10 possibly Jan 24 21:12:13 we're in MI Jan 24 21:12:19 i used to live straight down Wayne about 10 blocks or so from there Jan 24 21:12:26 now i'm in Plymouth Jan 24 21:12:32 im merriman/michigan ave Jan 24 21:14:23 haggerty/5mi Jan 24 21:15:01 oh snap! google just thanked ME!! out of millions of people who signed the sopa petition, they decided to thank ME!!!!! :D Jan 24 21:15:08 lol Jan 24 21:15:18 theres is/was a lot of MI webos devs at one time Jan 24 21:15:33 never saw a meet up or anything but i know i counted 10-15 at one time Jan 24 21:16:54 and acta is still on the loose Jan 24 21:18:13 we've had one meetup here in nashville.. we're planning another one Jan 24 21:18:15 bbl Jan 24 21:25:22 in case you guys didn't see this from last night .. http://itunes.apple.com/us/app/a-boxed-chicken-hd/id475800483?mt=8&ls=1 Jan 24 21:26:14 why would we be looking at apple stuff ;) Jan 24 21:28:11 lol Jan 24 21:28:16 your connection sucks Jan 24 21:28:21 WOW ftw :P Jan 24 21:29:01