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Jan 26 03:54:31 <PatrickC> mattsmcnulty!!
Jan 26 03:54:34 <PatrickC> hows it goin?
Jan 26 03:54:39 <mattsmcnulty> well.
Jan 26 03:57:55 <rwatkins> congrats!
Jan 26 03:58:08 <mattsmcnulty> thank you
Jan 26 03:58:29 <rwatkins> nice to have a little extra suprise of 2.0 w/ the release
Jan 26 03:58:41 <Clark008> did you guys hear, webos open source comes out fall 2012
Jan 26 03:58:45 <mattsmcnulty> yup. something we've been working on for a while
Jan 26 03:59:26 <rwatkins> writing all the UI cross platform is gonna be a fun trick.  I really want SlidingPanes
Jan 26 03:59:56 <mattsmcnulty> some things will be easier than others. slidingpane won't be bad
Jan 26 04:00:32 <rwatkins> the whole multiview thing will be just killer for the resolution variations
Jan 26 04:00:45 <rwatkins> I get asked that all the time w/ Paper MAche
Jan 26 04:01:13 <mattsmcnulty> the youtube/flickr samples we put out flip to a phone UI on small screens
Jan 26 04:01:49 <rwatkins> nice
Jan 26 04:02:10 <summatusmentis> mattsmcnulty: congratulations :)
Jan 26 04:02:16 <mattsmcnulty> thanks
Jan 26 04:03:01 <summatusmentis> are you guys doing UI work at all? I'm reading backlog, is the cross-platform UI stuff decided? can you say?
Jan 26 04:03:33 <mattsmcnulty> work began on it with part of the team a few weeks ago, it's a separate repo as we want enyo core to stay just the core
Jan 26 04:04:00 <mattsmcnulty> bulk of the team moves to it starting tomorrow. we may start by updating the webkit stuff to 2.0, then work on x-plat with it, and release it in stages
Jan 26 04:04:17 <mattsmcnulty> we plan to be very regular and iterative with releases
Jan 26 04:04:50 <rwatkins> ya, with the history, ya kinda gotta keep hitting those milestones now
Jan 26 04:04:57 <PatrickC> mattsmcnulty, this makes my job a whole lot easier for my Church :)
Jan 26 04:05:10 <PatrickC> now i dont have to learn Obj.C or Java :)
Jan 26 04:06:03 <mattsmcnulty> my team tends to hit milestones :-)
Jan 26 04:06:12 <rwatkins> :)
Jan 26 04:06:27 <summatusmentis> mattsmcnulty: neat
Jan 26 04:06:52 <rwatkins> any idea if 2.0 scrollers are better in android embedded webviews?  cuz I'm getting hammered for poor performace of the 1.0 scrollers today.
Jan 26 04:12:27 <CTLAdvance> I am shocked by how much effort is going into ENYO... I wonder how what the adoption rate will be
Jan 26 04:12:45 <mattsmcnulty> android perf kind of stinks, to be honest
Jan 26 04:13:04 <CTLAdvance> Does ENYO report back to home on its usage
Jan 26 04:13:20 <mattsmcnulty> they are shockingly on an ancient chrome and hw acceleration is appalling. I can have someone look at your app and see if there is some easy optimization
Jan 26 04:13:33 <mattsmcnulty> enyo only reports on you, ctladvance
Jan 26 04:13:38 <CTLAdvance> figures
Jan 26 04:13:42 <rwatkins> that would be really helpful, Im sure you;ve got some basics you've already learned to avoid
Jan 26 04:13:47 <PatrickC> CTLAdvance, long time no see
Jan 26 04:14:12 <rwatkins> i think the animation is fast enough at times - if I use scrollTo() but the touch interactions cause some serious issues.
Jan 26 04:14:13 <CTLAdvance> Yep, been busy
Jan 26 04:14:33 <CTLAdvance> news today made me hope for some much needed improvements
Jan 26 04:20:28 <halfhalo> ruh roh.  mattsmcnulty's here.  this won't end well.
Jan 26 04:20:40 <mattsmcnulty> yeah I like causing trouble
Jan 26 04:21:20 <halfhalo> apparently.  with your fancy "open sourcing" and whatnot!
Jan 26 04:21:44 <halfhalo> (congrats btw)
Jan 26 04:21:47 <mattsmcnulty> thanks
Jan 26 04:21:48 <summatusmentis> I'm personally really interested to hear what the org structure is gonna be
Jan 26 04:24:12 <mattsmcnulty> yeah, even I only know bits, mostly the part I am involved in
Jan 26 04:24:30 <mattsmcnulty> but I've been pretty head-down prepping for today for a couple weeks, along with the team
Jan 26 04:24:38 <summatusmentis> I can imagine
Jan 26 04:25:02 <mattsmcnulty> finished the enyojs.com website at 1am last night, got up at 5 to get to HP HQ for press and analyst interviews by 7am
Jan 26 04:25:04 <summatusmentis> you guys don't like, interact w/ HPs research arm by any chance do you?
Jan 26 04:25:11 <mattsmcnulty> hp labs?
Jan 26 04:25:14 <summatusmentis> yeah
Jan 26 04:25:23 <mattsmcnulty> somewhat, but not day to day - they are somewhat isolated and so are we
Jan 26 04:25:29 <halfhalo> last minute coding... I like it!
Jan 26 04:25:48 <mattsmcnulty> the website existed only in my head as late as monday afternoon
Jan 26 04:25:52 <CTLAdvance> We need to bring back mini cards...
Jan 26 04:26:02 <summatusmentis> did you build the website in enyo?
Jan 26 04:26:02 <CTLAdvance> or the ability to zoom out in card view
Jan 26 04:26:03 <halfhalo> doesn't suprise me.  its a nice little site.
Jan 26 04:26:20 <invalidopcode> mattsmcnulty: yes, very nice job on the webiste
Jan 26 04:27:31 <summatusmentis> mattsmcnulty: ah, so no collaboration or anything really
Jan 26 04:27:46 <halfhalo> mmmm... sites that load in under 200ms...
Jan 26 04:29:46 <halfhalo> mattsmcnulty, a channel was made _just_ for you! #EnyoJS
Jan 26 04:30:14 <mattsmcnulty> I did indeed hear that
Jan 26 04:36:03 <mattsmcnulty> ok, I am going to chillax a bit and try and actually get some sleep. keep hope alive - we're still kickin
Jan 26 04:36:11 <halfhalo> have fun
Jan 26 04:47:55 <CTLAdvance> rwatkins still here
Jan 26 04:47:57 <CTLAdvance> ?
Jan 26 04:49:20 <rwatkins> yes
Jan 26 04:49:59 <CTLAdvance> You made paper mache correct
Jan 26 04:50:03 <rwatkins> indeed
Jan 26 04:50:27 <CTLAdvance> How much extra work did it take you to launch it on android, aside from configuring the web control
Jan 26 04:50:53 <CTLAdvance> I assume it is 2.0 ENYO
Jan 26 04:51:01 <rwatkins> no its 1.0 enyo
Jan 26 04:51:55 <rwatkins> most of the work honestly was getting phonegap setup, getting android building correctly and then working out how to effectively debug
Jan 26 04:52:14 <rwatkins> and I guess setting up a couple plugins
Jan 26 04:52:52 <rwatkins> there was some code change, but not alot - various minor fixes here and there for a webkit issue or some service changes.
Jan 26 04:55:37 <CTLAdvance> yep standard with phonegap
Jan 26 04:56:13 <rwatkins> I'd done an iOS phonegap before, but not android. waste like an hour getting my apk signed for instance.
Jan 26 04:56:26 <CTLAdvance> yep
Jan 26 04:56:49 <CTLAdvance> I have done android phonegap but not IOS yet, so was interested to know how it went for you
Jan 26 04:56:56 <rwatkins> I started Tuesday, finished Today, so .. a week total with a regular day job outside this.
Jan 26 04:57:27 <CTLAdvance> nice
Jan 26 04:57:57 <CTLAdvance> your app is front and center now on the verge
Jan 26 04:58:23 <rwatkins> ya, all about the timing.  nice perk.
Jan 26 04:58:53 <CTLAdvance> yep
Jan 26 04:58:57 <rwatkins> app is like ~8k loc, I probalby only had to change a hundred or so to fix it up for Phonegap.
Jan 26 05:59:12 <PuffTheMagic> Roy-Pre101, ping
Jan 26 05:59:41 <Roy-Pre101> Yo
Jan 26 06:00:11 <PuffTheMagic> so now that my exhibition mode is working i no long get windowActivated/windowDeactivated events on it
Jan 26 06:00:27 <PuffTheMagic> so what do i use it their place
Jan 26 06:00:39 <Roy-Pre101> Hrm...
Jan 26 06:00:46 <Roy-Pre101> I don't know!
Jan 26 06:02:18 <PuffTheMagic> ahh, i have to add a ApplicationEvents object now
Jan 26 06:02:21 <PuffTheMagic> where as before I didnt
Jan 26 06:04:30 <Roy-Pre101> Mmm, yes.
Jan 26 06:04:37 <Roy-Pre101> It's also late here.
Jan 26 06:04:42 * Roy-Pre101 yawns
Jan 26 06:04:45 <Roy-Pre101> I'm going to hit the sack
Jan 26 06:04:49 <PuffTheMagic> night
Jan 26 06:37:00 <EricBlade> good evening everyone
Jan 26 06:37:21 <invalidopcode> EricBlade: good evening
Jan 26 06:37:26 <RagingMind> good morning
Jan 26 06:37:36 <EricBlade> hey invalidopcode i got that whole thing i was poking at working .. at least in Android .. i don't think I have anywhere near the knowledge necessary to get it running in webos though :(
Jan 26 06:37:55 <invalidopcode> aww :( oh well
Jan 26 06:38:45 <invalidopcode> oh btw, i noticed that i think the "announce names" in GVoice seems to be broken....
Jan 26 06:39:29 <EricBlade> well i have to admit that i shut that off immediately after implementing it and probably haven't looked at it since
Jan 26 06:40:10 <invalidopcode> oh... haha well i actually really liked it :)
Jan 26 06:40:11 <EricBlade> i just got an email a little bit ago from a guy who says that the reply function isn't working
Jan 26 06:40:24 <invalidopcode> hm... it was working a couple hours ago
Jan 26 06:40:36 <EricBlade> yeah i receive a lot of messages that i don't want my gf saying "why is *so and so* messaging you SO much?" lol
Jan 26 06:40:58 <invalidopcode> hahaha
Jan 26 06:41:37 <invalidopcode> i like having it scare the people around me :P
Jan 26 06:42:24 <EricBlade> i know one user has a contact listed as "stupid b**tch* that (used to?) like to text him when they were 5 feet away from each other, so he turned that on
Jan 26 06:43:00 <invalidopcode> hahahaha that great
Jan 26 06:43:54 <invalidopcode> its actually a convenient feature for me because im usually on my laptop, so that way i don't have check my touchpad
Jan 26 06:44:10 <invalidopcode> but it looks like your new notifications broke it
Jan 26 06:44:47 <EricBlade> ok, anyway, only problem that i'm aware of, is that if you close the program, there's no longer an open window from which to do the announcement
Jan 26 06:45:11 <invalidopcode> yeah... i think thats it
Jan 26 06:45:15 <EricBlade> now that i'm thinking about it, though, i actually could play it from the notification window
Jan 26 06:45:31 <EricBlade> ok, text-to-speech won't work if you close the app, nor will background check times of < 5 min
Jan 26 06:46:10 <invalidopcode> though i don't seem to remember hearing it when i had the window open :/ (though i could be wrong)
Jan 26 06:46:40 <EricBlade> i think that too and then whenever i actually go to check it it works, so i think i may just be tuning it out
Jan 26 06:47:03 <invalidopcode> ah
Jan 26 06:47:36 <invalidopcode> but it for sure doesn't work if the window is closed
Jan 26 06:47:38 <invalidopcode> ?
Jan 26 06:50:47 <halfhalo> I think I have like 15 phones within reach atm
Jan 26 06:51:21 <invalidopcode> halfhalo: haha awesome
Jan 26 06:51:38 <EricBlade> invalidopcode: it for sure does not work when the app is closed, yuo'll just get the beep
Jan 26 06:51:50 <invalidopcode> EricBlade: ah, ok :/
Jan 26 06:52:02 <invalidopcode> halfhalo: your going to die of the radiation :P
Jan 26 06:52:18 <EricBlade> but, i do like the idea of trying to get it into the notification window instead of the main window, then it would hopefully work
Jan 26 06:52:21 <halfhalo> slightly
Jan 26 06:52:26 <EricBlade> unless it wouldn't because the notification window isn't rendered
Jan 26 06:52:36 <EricBlade> the text-to-speech plugin has to be rendered :|
Jan 26 06:52:44 <invalidopcode> is it a native thing?
Jan 26 06:53:33 <EricBlade> yeah it's a hybrid plugin .. and one of the rules for those in enyo is that they have to be in a rendered window
Jan 26 06:54:28 <EricBlade> hmm.  i was thinking about trying to see if i could easily write my own dashboard so it would render properly on phones.. so if i do that, i'll see if i can stick that plugin into the dashboard notification
Jan 26 06:54:47 <invalidopcode> hm... thats an interesting idea
Jan 26 06:55:08 <invalidopcode> just curious, how does GVoice stay alive in the background right now?
Jan 26 06:55:18 <summatusmentis> pure willpower
Jan 26 06:55:33 <EricBlade> if you close it, it calls a system alarm to wake it in whatever time is set for background time
Jan 26 06:56:05 <EricBlade> which is why the 5-min limitation when closed
Jan 26 06:56:17 <invalidopcode> ah i see... interesting
Jan 26 06:57:42 <EricBlade> i do know, at least theoretically, how to get the gvoice messages directly into the messaging app via synergy .. but i haven't figured out the slightest bit to how to actually send back
Jan 26 06:58:35 <invalidopcode> ah that would actually be really cool
Jan 26 06:59:24 <summatusmentis> yeah, it really, really would
Jan 26 06:59:31 <invalidopcode> but then you wouldn't have the folder support and stuff
Jan 26 07:00:47 <summatusmentis> do people actually use that?
Jan 26 07:01:17 <summatusmentis> (technically, my messages already go to my messaging app, Sprint setup Google Voice as their backend)
Jan 26 07:01:24 <invalidopcode> well i check the Texts folder to see if i've sent a text to someone and they never responded
Jan 26 07:02:53 <invalidopcode> also, then we wouldn't have the text to speech feature :P
Jan 26 07:03:17 <summatusmentis> "do people actually use that?"
Jan 26 07:03:20 <invalidopcode> i wonder if anyone uses the "announce message content" feature
Jan 26 07:03:21 <summatusmentis> :-P
Jan 26 07:03:26 <invalidopcode> summatusmentis: YES, i do!
Jan 26 07:04:30 <invalidopcode> i need to finish up my boxcar app.... and get it to stop crashing luna
Jan 26 07:06:37 <EricBlade> invalidopcode: the one thing that is annoying about that feature, is unless i write my own system to keep track of things that the user has/hasn't read, then i don't really know exactly what's new, as i only get a flag that something in the conversation is new
Jan 26 07:07:40 <summatusmentis> isn't it usually safe to assume that "most recent" is the new thing?
Jan 26 07:07:43 <EricBlade> so since i don't currently store any information about the state of any conversations other than the last folder and page loaded, that's difficult
Jan 26 07:08:28 <invalidopcode> ah
Jan 26 07:36:19 <EricBlade> wow 167 downloads on XO demo, 1 review
Jan 26 07:39:20 <EricBlade> good news is, there's at least 167 webOS users left
Jan 26 07:39:27 <EricBlade> :)
Jan 26 07:39:35 <summatusmentis> XO?
Jan 26 07:48:12 <EricBlade> the Subsonic app
Jan 26 07:53:35 <summatusmentis> ooh
Jan 26 08:11:38 <swisstomcat> morning
Jan 26 08:36:47 <swisstomcat> hey b0bben
Jan 26 08:37:14 <b0bben> hey swisstomcat
Jan 26 08:37:18 <b0bben> what up?
Jan 26 08:37:30 <swisstomcat> swisstomcat=twtomcat
Jan 26 08:37:46 <b0bben> yeah, i figured that out ;)
Jan 26 08:38:12 <b0bben> how're you doing? getting any more snow down there?
Jan 26 08:38:20 <b0bben> we just got like 4cm, so happy! :D
Jan 26 08:44:40 <swisstomcat> no snow (only in the mountains ..but plenty there)
Jan 26 08:45:18 <b0bben> well, at least there's some up there, so ppl can go skiing
Jan 26 08:46:21 <swisstomcat> yeah
Jan 26 08:46:34 <swisstomcat> i hope interest in the enyo plex client has gone up since yesterday :)
Jan 26 08:50:07 <b0bben> no idea, i hope so too :)
Jan 26 09:18:34 <Satellite> swisstomcat: there's an enyo plex app?
Jan 26 09:20:17 <swisstomcat> satellite: yeah, ask b0bben :)
Jan 26 09:20:29 <Satellite> that's the best news I've heard all week
Jan 26 09:20:52 <Satellite> I use Kalemsoft but it doesn't have OSX support
Jan 26 09:22:15 <swisstomcat> https://developer.palm.com/appredirect/?packageid=com.plexapp.webos-client.beta
Jan 26 09:26:57 <Satellite> I don't see it in the app catalog
Jan 26 09:27:19 <swisstomcat> it's beta so i think you have to use above link
Jan 26 09:36:55 <b0bben> Satellite: use this link on your TP: https://developer.palm.com/appredirect/?packageid=com.plexapp.webos-client.beta
Jan 26 09:37:03 <Satellite> yep, I got it running thanks :D
Jan 26 09:37:13 <b0bben> awesome
Jan 26 09:37:25 <b0bben> how's server discovery working for ya?
Jan 26 09:38:47 <Satellite> still installing plex media server, vimeo installation is taking forever -_-
Jan 26 09:56:50 <Satellite> b0bben: would it work on my Pre 3 also?
Jan 26 09:59:39 <b0bben> no video playback
Jan 26 09:59:45 <b0bben> with it will "work"
Jan 26 09:59:50 <b0bben> navigation is not 100%
Jan 26 10:00:05 <Satellite> ah, gotcha
Jan 26 10:00:08 <b0bben> i haven't put any effort in it, since there's no HLS on 2.x (which is required for video playback)
Jan 26 10:00:23 <Satellite> yeah that's fair enough
Jan 26 10:00:33 <Satellite> beggars can't be choosers, I'm happy with it on my Touchpad :D
Jan 26 10:00:35 <b0bben> but it does work a little :)
Jan 26 10:00:51 <b0bben> you can listen to music, and it navigation is kinda ok if you're in landscape
Jan 26 10:04:20 <swisstomcat> what about using your phone to control playback to another deivce?
Jan 26 10:18:40 <b0bben> there's API for that, and i will eventually get on it
Jan 26 10:18:55 <b0bben> channels is my next thing, unleash the powers of all the plugins in plex!
Jan 26 10:24:35 <Satellite> :D
Jan 26 10:24:43 <Satellite> glad you're committed to this b0bben
Jan 26 10:42:37 <b0bben> Satellite: thx man, appreciate it
Jan 26 15:49:47 * DougReeder_ waves hello
Jan 26 15:50:49 <DougReeder_> Does anyone know how to contact Matt McNulty?  I could use some theoretical background on why Enyo was designed the way it was.
Jan 26 16:28:21 <rwatkins> DougReeder_: I assume he's matthew.mcnulty@hp.com but not sure.  and there is his twitter accnt @mattsmcnulty
Jan 26 16:29:10 <DougReeder_> Thanks, I'll try those.
Jan 26 17:16:21 <destinal> morphis: still working with pre for openembedded and so on?   I suppose you heard about the open source plans announcement?
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Jan 26 19:19:56 <Boopop> http://forums.webosnation.com/webos-apps/310993-smartrunner-dropping-support-webos.html#post3289791
Jan 26 19:20:02 <Boopop> For anyone who uses/used/paid for smartrunner
Jan 26 19:21:42 <akanster> as much as it sucks for the users, it's a business decision that makes perfect sense to me.
Jan 26 19:51:26 <Boopop> akanster: The dropping of support makes good business sense, the lack of fixing it for paid users doesn't
Jan 26 19:52:02 <Boopop> Do they think paid users will bother buying their app on other platforms if they left them in the lurch like that on webOS?
Jan 26 19:52:33 <RagingMind> I'm not every buying NDrive on any platform again
Jan 26 19:52:47 <RagingMind> Boopop, so for me the answer to that is "no"
Jan 26 19:53:07 <akanster> it's a hard sell to convince anyone to invest time and resources on a platform with an uncertain future. You eventually have to cut your losses
Jan 26 19:53:23 <Boopop> Yes but the fact is it's probably just a quick fix
Jan 26 19:53:56 <Boopop> I wouldn't be complaining if I hadn't paid for it
Jan 26 19:54:32 <Boopop> They didn't warn anyone, they just let it break and then decided they weren't going to fix it
Jan 26 19:54:46 <RagingMind> I wouldn't care if ndrive ever added any features, but i'd at least like a couple bug fixes so that what is there already would work
Jan 26 19:54:49 <Boopop> seems a bizarre state to leave something in when you're dropping support for it
Jan 26 19:55:14 <Boopop> Shows they have little respect for their paid customers
Jan 26 19:55:42 <Boopop> Grab the money, oh look, the platform's dying, let's scarper, forget the customers
Jan 26 19:55:44 <Boopop> bah
Jan 26 20:03:56 <EricBlade> what is wrong with my pre2 :( the battery has drained full to empty twice today since noon :(
Jan 26 20:14:18 <gokr> EricBlade: well, probably not your problem, but I noticed that just "throwing away" the tether app doesn't shut down wifi and my phone got really warm and drained the battery in no time.
Jan 26 20:14:36 <gokr> Now I always shut off the wifi in the tether app - and then throw it away :)
Jan 26 20:22:46 <EricBlade> yeah i do that, but i didn't even have tethering on
Jan 26 20:23:56 <EricBlade> i had skype on last night, but i shut it off before i put it on the charger last night, i took it off, and it was dead within 45 minutes, 100% to 0 .. charged it up again, and it did the same thing when i took it off
Jan 26 20:36:28 <chandoo> hi
Jan 26 20:37:01 <chandoo> i am compiling openssh for TP for learning purpose i am getting incompatiable zlib,so error
Jan 26 20:37:19 <chandoo> ld: skipping incompatible /home/chandra/Downloads/touchpad/openssh/zlib-1.2.5/libz.so when searching for -lz
Jan 26 20:37:33 <chandoo> ld: skipping incompatible /home/chandra/Downloads/touchpad/openssh/zlib-1.2.5/libz.a when searching for -lz
Jan 26 20:37:39 <chandoo> any help?
Jan 26 20:41:42 <PatrickC> chandoo: #webos-internals would be better for OpenSSH
Jan 26 20:42:11 <PatrickC> wait, maybe? actually now that I read everything I'm not sure :)
Jan 26 20:51:19 <dkirker> PatrickC, chandoo : Yes, #webos-internals would probably be more useful.
Jan 26 20:51:31 <PatrickC> hola dkirker
Jan 26 20:51:33 <dkirker> hi
Jan 26 20:59:11 <chandoo> dkirker:{ okay
Jan 26 20:59:37 <dkirker> Sometimes #webos-internals can be a bit quiet :(
Jan 26 21:07:14 * madnificent should get a touchpad to test if tasks@hand works on it, or why it doesn't
Jan 26 21:12:01 <PatrickC> madnificent: I have one
Jan 26 21:12:04 <PatrickC> hola Adora
Jan 26 21:12:24 <wrea> dkirker, indeed
Jan 26 21:14:05 <madnificent> PatrickC: do you still have the app or should i mail you the ipk?
Jan 26 21:14:25 <PatrickC> i dont have a new version of the app. and quite frankly, not sure where the old IPK is :)
Jan 26 21:14:47 <madnificent>  /msg me your email address again please :)  if you're willing to test it, that is
Jan 26 21:14:56 <madnificent> i guess only the stylesheets can be really off...
Jan 26 21:36:04 <dawm_> http://a6.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc7/s720x720/395421_694882044050_39905845_34352206_1614227682_n.jpg
Jan 26 21:36:05 <dawm_> oh snap
Jan 26 21:36:34 <summatusmentis> that's so illegal
Jan 26 21:37:19 <klausa> And also fake.
Jan 26 21:37:37 <halfhalo> all mcdonalds food is fake
Jan 26 21:38:10 <rwatkins> ya think?
Jan 26 21:38:12 <summatusmentis> possibly fake
Jan 26 21:38:18 <dawm_> no it is fake
Jan 26 21:38:31 <rwatkins> Apparently the perpetrators of the hoax wanted to make sure it was easily identifiable as such. If you dial the 800-number listed on the sign, the party you actually reach is KFC (Kentucky Fried Chicken), not McDonald's
Jan 26 21:38:43 <summatusmentis> I only said possibly because I don't actually know
Jan 26 21:44:03 <dwc-> paid? I thought smartrunner's app was free
Jan 26 22:37:20 <PatrickC> EricBlade1, ping
Jan 26 23:06:54 <halfhalo> apparently my dog has decided my laptop makes a good pillow again
Jan 26 23:45:48 <EricBlade1> patrickc: poong
Jan 26 23:45:55 <PatrickC> EricBlade1! :)
Jan 26 23:46:07 <PatrickC> your dashboard tut on webos101 doesnt work for me
Jan 26 23:59:47 <EricBlade1> sorry :(
Jan 26 23:59:57 <EricBlade1> it worked when i wrote it
Jan 27 00:00:11 <PatrickC> http://pastebin.com/b3GwvSHf
Jan 27 00:00:29 <PatrickC> theres the link to the error and related code (i changed the kind names and related items to match what i was going to use them for)
Jan 27 00:02:02 <EricBlade1> there's a commented part out on that line that you uncommented
Jan 27 00:02:20 <PatrickC> i dont remember uncommenting a line.. lol
Jan 27 00:02:25 * PatrickC goes to check
Jan 27 00:02:26 <EricBlade1> no just half of it
Jan 27 00:02:28 <PatrickC> which file?
Jan 27 00:02:41 <PatrickC> in dashboard.html?
Jan 27 00:03:04 <EricBlade1> yeah the line where the error is :)
Jan 27 00:03:42 <PatrickC> the popup.html doesnt have that line commented :)
Jan 27 00:03:56 <PatrickC> your index.html does
Jan 27 00:07:19 <EricBlade1> right
Jan 27 00:08:04 <PatrickC> my Dashboard.html (your popup.html) are identical
Jan 27 00:08:09 <PatrickC> except mine links to my enyo
Jan 27 00:10:28 <destinal> PatrickC: played with the new enyo release?
Jan 27 00:10:37 <PatrickC> not much
Jan 27 00:16:42 <PatrickC> hola cwayne
Jan 27 00:17:01 <cwayne> PatrickC: yo whats up
Jan 27 00:17:12 <PatrickC> trying to fix a broken pre2
Jan 27 01:02:59 <EricBlade1> PatrickC: your dashboard.html does not have a part commented out that mine does
Jan 27 01:03:25 <PatrickC> ahh
Jan 27 01:03:26 <PatrickC> ok
Jan 27 01:42:00 <PatrickC> for anyone near Nashville TN http://bit.ly/wtUhmn
Jan 27 02:12:20 <Ghalla> anyone notice how much faster the webOS apps ported to android run?
Jan 27 02:12:23 <Ghalla> why is that
Jan 27 02:12:56 <dawm_> magic
Jan 27 02:12:57 <rwatkins> there is only one ported, and .. its mine.
Jan 27 02:13:18 <Ghalla> I just loaded it up on the phone. Opened quickly
Jan 27 02:13:32 <Ghalla> on webos it would flash for a while before opening
Jan 27 02:13:59 <rwatkins> I think bits of the JS engine are faster, but there are also some touch stuff that is worse on some platforms.  dragging to scroll or slide can be .. poor.
Jan 27 02:14:16 <rwatkins> intializing sql is much faster.  that was often very bad on webOS.
Jan 27 02:15:03 <rwatkins> alot of the startup time for Paper Mache was waiting for the opening of the sql storage to return, and webOS often got hung on other webkit processing for that to open and return.
Jan 27 02:18:12 <Vic_Sage-TheQues> I need help I tried to update my HP Touchpad to the new version of webos and it boot looped so I ran Webos doctor and now it is stuck at 83%
Jan 27 02:20:02 <Vic_Sage-TheQues> anybody here?
Jan 27 02:21:51 <Vic_Sage-TheQues> hello?
Jan 27 02:22:02 <dawm_> https://www.severelysocial.com/naias/dreamvacation/contest/
Jan 27 02:22:08 <dawm_> win a trip to MICHIGAN..
Jan 27 02:22:24 <dawm_> lol
Jan 27 02:22:36 <dawm_> Walgreens replied to me on twitter..
Jan 27 02:23:00 <dawm_> silly... it was a 4sq checkin they replied to
Jan 27 02:23:29 <rwatkins> dream vacation - maybe for someone in Myanmar
Jan 27 02:23:50 <dawm_> https://twitter.com/#!/Walgreens/status/162721880141340672
Jan 27 02:24:22 <dawm_> they are REALLY pressing Halls cough drops
Jan 27 02:29:43 <dawm_> fxspec06, lost is EPIC, 6th season kinda sucks but everything else.. soo good
Jan 27 02:30:05 <dawm_> ive watched it twice all the way thru, working on a 3rd time
Jan 27 02:31:47 <PatrickC> i am
Jan 27 02:31:50 <PatrickC> ok, now to do that
Jan 27 02:31:55 <PatrickC> wrong channel lol
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