**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Sun Feb 12 02:59:56 2012
Feb 12 04:41:55 <EricBlade> dumb question.. do services work in 1.4.5, or was that a 2.0 invention?
Feb 12 04:43:44 <oc80z> they work in 1.4.5
Feb 12 04:44:00 <oc80z> which servers, to be exact, eh
Feb 12 04:45:48 <EricBlade> so 1.4.5 has node services? nice
Feb 12 04:45:54 <EricBlade> not that my current node services work that far back
Feb 12 04:45:58 <EricBlade> hmm.
Feb 12 04:46:08 <EricBlade> "The IPK file you uploaded containts content that is not yet allowed."
Feb 12 04:46:21 <EricBlade> *contains
Feb 12 04:52:49 <minego> If I recall apps with services aren't allowed in the app catalog for < 2.0
Feb 12 04:55:06 <EricBlade> well that'll be interesting then
Feb 12 04:55:23 <minego> Something to do with problems uninstalling them
Feb 12 04:55:29 <EricBlade> that's plugins
Feb 12 04:55:46 <fxspec06> that's plugins
Feb 12 04:55:50 <fxspec06> and that's < 3.0
Feb 12 04:55:57 <EricBlade> < 2.10
Feb 12 04:56:03 <minego> Oh, you are probably right
Feb 12 04:56:09 <minego> I may be confusing them
Feb 12 04:56:25 <fxspec06> FINALLY. Tomorrow, HIGH 24 degrees.
Feb 12 04:56:30 <fxspec06> LOVE ME SOME COLD WEATHER!
Feb 12 04:56:42 <fxspec06> plugins are < 2.10?
Feb 12 04:56:51 <fxspec06> because i'll try to sub this wild'n update
Feb 12 04:57:00 <fxspec06> i just don't know the definitive ruling on it.
Feb 12 04:59:03 <EricBlade> no plugins are not allowed < 2.10
Feb 12 04:59:24 <EricBlade> it's cold as heck here, and our heater doesn't work.
Feb 12 05:00:00 <fxspec06> hm so 2.10 >= plugins would be allowed
Feb 12 05:00:03 * fxspec06 gonna give it a go
Feb 12 05:00:09 <fxspec06> if gets rejected i'll know why
Feb 12 05:00:55 <EricBlade> yes 2.10+ plugins are allowed, GVoice has it, although it currently only works in 2.2 since I haven't applied Puff's magic trick for Enyo hybrids
Feb 12 05:01:15 <fxspec06> cool sweet man. thx.
Feb 12 05:01:58 <fxspec06> well then, my wild'n version w/ kickass sound that only minego knows about will finally hit hte market
Feb 12 05:02:06 <minego> haha
Feb 12 05:02:35 <fxspec06> wait -- why am i trying to upload an .apk to the palm store
Feb 12 05:02:51 <fxspec06> can someone explain that to me
Feb 12 05:04:02 <fxspec06> do i really need to re-upload these same damned screenshots every time?
Feb 12 05:04:19 <ka6sox> fxspec06, because you aren't awake?
Feb 12 05:04:39 <EricBlade> i have been reusing the same shots for the last 8 updates or so.  also used the same screenshots for my submission to RIM
Feb 12 05:04:47 <EricBlade> just with the webOS status bar cut off
Feb 12 05:04:58 <ka6sox> interesting
Feb 12 05:05:01 <fxspec06> eh. i'm awake enough to know that i shouldn't be doing this =P but really, it's fine
Feb 12 05:05:13 <EricBlade> but I also haven't changed anything interface wise in those updates
Feb 12 05:05:38 <EricBlade> then again, since people get iPhone screens through sometimes, my guess is that the App Approval process has gone pretty lax in some places
Feb 12 05:05:46 <fxspec06> you don't worry about screen resolution? unaccurate representation of product?
Feb 12 05:06:24 <fxspec06> i really love the new light blue glass effect theme. it's awesome.
Feb 12 05:06:28 <EricBlade> i would make new screens if i had changed anything that affected the ui
Feb 12 05:06:53 <EricBlade> for RIM, I didn't care -- they wanted 640x640 .. wth?
Feb 12 05:07:22 <EricBlade> some obscene 1920x1178 or something shot and then "up to 100" 640x640s.  None of which can possibly be an accurate representation.
Feb 12 05:08:36 <EricBlade> ok i swear 5 months after release, GVoice is nearing 1.0.  i -really- didn't think it was -that- far away from being complete back in September.  shows what you learn while writing.
Feb 12 05:09:08 <EricBlade> but there's no more web view hacks in it!
Feb 12 05:09:53 <fxspec06> heh
Feb 12 05:10:02 <fxspec06> i gonna try put voogle on the RIM but
Feb 12 05:10:12 <fxspec06> notifications and power timeouts are gonna get in the way
Feb 12 05:13:54 <EricBlade> i'm not even going to try to figure that stuff out till they give me a tablet
Feb 12 05:14:54 <fxspec06> lol
Feb 12 05:15:24 <fxspec06> so demanding!
Feb 12 05:15:31 <fxspec06> but yeah, i hear that
Feb 12 05:15:49 <fxspec06> i think there's like 6 or 7 webos peeps getting a playbook
Feb 12 05:15:54 <fxspec06> list keeps growing
Feb 12 05:16:17 <fxspec06> james harris, minego, eblade, rich dunbar, invalidopcode
Feb 12 05:16:22 <fxspec06> i'm sure there's a couple more
Feb 12 05:18:42 <EricBlade> so by the time we GET our playbooks, we'll be able to have like 10 apps on them
Feb 12 05:19:50 <fxspec06> lol
Feb 12 05:19:52 <fxspec06> yes
Feb 12 05:19:59 <fxspec06> very easy to dev for :P
Feb 12 05:27:22 <EricBlade> i need to find a new name for gvoice for the android market.
Feb 12 08:55:54 <EricBlade> oh no
Feb 12 08:56:09 <EricBlade> my developer touchpad has a crack :(
Feb 12 08:56:15 <EricBlade> at the headphone port
Feb 12 11:22:07 <leiru> hi
Feb 12 11:22:17 <leiru> would need some help from a native english speaker
Feb 12 11:22:41 <leiru> Developing a/an(???) todo application
Feb 12 11:22:48 <leiru> a or an?
Feb 12 11:41:35 <leiru> okay
Feb 12 11:41:52 <leiru> i read the grammar rule in that time waiting for an answer
Feb 12 11:41:53 <leiru> :)
Feb 12 13:39:45 <zaur-ibr> is there anyone installed ubuntu chroot?
Feb 12 13:46:52 <zaur-ibr> well,is there anyone uninstalled ubuntu chroot?
Feb 12 13:47:28 <zaur-ibr> is there anyone created ext3fs partition?
Feb 12 13:50:48 <zaur-ibr> who use hp tp?
Feb 12 13:51:10 <zaur-ibr> Is there anyone or all is died?
Feb 12 14:14:40 <RichT23> wow thats one impationt dude
Feb 12 14:15:39 <fxspec06> lol
Feb 12 16:33:34 <PuffTheMagic> anyone know what modeNameAscii returns for pre+
Feb 12 16:54:11 <fxspec06> no idea. that must be different for device name. i can boot my pre if you want, but it'd take a few mins =P
Feb 12 17:02:06 <PuffTheMagic> pre is Pre
Feb 12 17:02:21 <PuffTheMagic> but i was just curious if pre+ was not Pre
Feb 12 17:03:04 <PuffTheMagic> and my stupid franken pre2 w/ 2.2.4 keeps saying there is an update to 2.2.4
Feb 12 17:03:05 <PuffTheMagic> :D
Feb 12 17:03:38 <webOSnewbie> Is is possible to connect my Pre 2 to my computer via USB and use it as a Wi-Vi card
Feb 12 17:04:14 <PuffTheMagic> WiVi?
Feb 12 17:04:44 <klausa> Alternative spelling of WiFi.
Feb 12 17:04:52 <klausa> (I guess?)
Feb 12 17:05:13 <PuffTheMagic> webOSnewbie, do you want to use your pre2's internet?
Feb 12 17:05:13 <webOSnewbie> webOS corrected it, and I accidentally hit send
Feb 12 17:05:18 <webOSnewbie> yes
Feb 12 17:05:22 <PuffTheMagic> freeTether can do that
Feb 12 17:05:42 <webOSnewbie> thanx.  Dad
Feb 12 17:05:48 <webOSnewbie> took WiFi card
Feb 12 17:06:34 <webOSnewbie> Will it work on WiFi instead of data?
Feb 12 17:06:45 <PuffTheMagic> umm
Feb 12 17:07:22 <PuffTheMagic> noradtux|away, freeTether assumes you are trying to use data, i suppose in a new version I could add an option to bind to wifi
Feb 12 17:07:57 <webOSnewbie> That's what I need.
Feb 12 17:08:12 <PuffTheMagic> it can be done manually
Feb 12 17:08:21 <PuffTheMagic> but not via the app right now
Feb 12 17:10:28 <webOSnewbie> What's the process?
Feb 12 17:11:52 <PuffTheMagic> if you are familiar with linux it involves enabling ipforwarding and setting some routes and possibly tweaking iptables
Feb 12 17:12:04 <PuffTheMagic> not something im going to walk anyone though
Feb 12 17:12:54 <halfhalo> you know, I'm pretty sure they sell wifi cards at like the 99 cents stores now.
Feb 12 17:12:59 <halfhalo> they are THAT cheap
Feb 12 17:14:12 <fxspec06> i'm pretty sure pre, pre+, and pre2 are all "pre"
Feb 12 17:16:29 <PuffTheMagic> anyone have german or french device?
Feb 12 17:17:24 <PuffTheMagic> actually i have french, i just need someone with german
Feb 12 17:17:30 <hucksy> <- german
Feb 12 17:17:48 <PuffTheMagic> hucksy, u have a german device? with qwertz keyboard?
Feb 12 17:17:57 <hucksy> yep
Feb 12 17:19:14 <webOSnewbie> It works!
Feb 12 17:19:31 <PuffTheMagic> hucksy, seems like what I wanted to have you test wont work
Feb 12 17:19:44 <hucksy> oh ok
Feb 12 17:19:50 <PuffTheMagic> but if i figure out a different way i might ask you for help with something
Feb 12 17:19:54 <webOSnewbie> Thanks PuffTheMagic
Feb 12 17:20:01 <PuffTheMagic> freeTether worked?
Feb 12 17:20:03 <hucksy> no problem
Feb 12 17:20:07 <webOSnewbie> for wifi
Feb 12 17:20:10 <PuffTheMagic> hmm
Feb 12 17:20:22 <webOSnewbie> Even through my hub
Feb 12 17:22:20 <RagingMind> PuffTheMagic, I've used freetether to connect my desktop to my wifi
Feb 12 17:23:41 <PuffTheMagic> hucksy, ok i figured out what needs to be done
Feb 12 17:24:13 <PuffTheMagic> hucksy, i dont suppose do any dev work, on enyo apps in particular
Feb 12 17:26:31 <hucksy> uhm, you mean if i'm a dev?
Feb 12 17:27:58 <PuffTheMagic> nm, i got the info i needed
Feb 12 17:28:46 <hucksy> ok
Feb 12 18:09:22 <PaNeL_TP> hello2all
Feb 12 21:29:55 * halfhalo yawns
Feb 13 00:32:35 <PatrickC> hey guys
Feb 13 00:32:59 <cwayne> yo
Feb 13 00:40:58 <fxspec06> where does email store its downloaded files
Feb 13 00:41:32 <invalidopcode> hey PatrickC
Feb 13 00:41:55 <PatrickC> hows it goin invalidopcode and cwayne ?
Feb 13 00:41:59 <PatrickC> fxspec06, in /var iirc
Feb 13 00:42:16 <PatrickC> there was a patch that changed it to /media/internal/downloads but i dont think its been updated in a while
Feb 13 00:42:53 <invalidopcode> PatrickC: pretty well. and you?
Feb 13 00:42:59 <PatrickC> goin good
Feb 13 00:43:14 <PatrickC> i got back into my MMORPG game so i havent been getting a whole lot of coding done lol
Feb 13 00:46:00 <fxspec06> i can't find it
Feb 13 00:46:21 <invalidopcode> ah haha nice
Feb 13 00:46:54 <invalidopcode> PatrickC: did you see, i got an app approved into the App Catalog?
Feb 13 00:47:13 <PatrickC> fxspec06, open up an IPK that is attached to an email and itll give u the link in preware
Feb 13 00:47:16 <PatrickC> invalidopcode, no! what app?
Feb 13 00:47:25 <invalidopcode> PatrickC: badgework
Feb 13 00:47:34 <PatrickC> whats it do? :)
Feb 13 00:47:45 <PatrickC> sounds like a moddern warfare thing lol
Feb 13 00:47:59 <fxspec06> o hey i just thought of a way to leave bad reviews for people in the catalog
Feb 13 00:48:10 <fxspec06> if you can guess the app id you can do it for every one =P
Feb 13 00:48:28 <invalidopcode> PatrickC: its a Boy Scout requirements tracker :P
Feb 13 00:48:33 <PatrickC> haha
Feb 13 00:49:20 <PatrickC> fxspec06, hows wild'n doin?
Feb 13 00:49:37 <fxspec06> great
Feb 13 00:49:46 <fxspec06> it just surpassed 10 billion downloads yesterday
Feb 13 00:49:51 <PatrickC> lol
Feb 13 00:50:49 <invalidopcode> fxspec06: billion or million?
Feb 13 00:51:12 * PatrickC took it as sarcastic...
Feb 13 00:51:14 <fxspec06> trillion
Feb 13 00:51:15 <PatrickC> was i wrong fxspec06?
Feb 13 02:05:15 <EricBlade1> whut the hell.. Google Analytics reports that my website has had 64 hits from OS/2 systems in the last month.  It doesn't even -recognize- webOS.  wtf?!?
Feb 13 02:12:20 <mamoul> hey buddies
Feb 13 02:12:38 <mamoul> I'm chatting from my HP Touchpad :D
Feb 13 02:14:32 <mamoul> I'm new to webos
Feb 13 02:15:22 <mamoul> So right now what I'm looking to do is familiarize myself with what software is available for the platform that I can use to extend the capabilities of the device beyond typical tablet tomfoolery
Feb 13 02:16:29 <mamoul> I have the desktop stand and the wireless keyboard so I'm looking for productivity and utility power
Feb 13 02:17:18 <mamoul> I may end up just putting Linux on it though
Feb 13 02:45:21 <invalidopcode> EricBlade1: maybe people are running OS/2 on their touchpads :P
Feb 13 02:47:35 <EricBlade1> mamoul: webOS is Linux :)  though you can get a Ubuntu or Debian system through the normal Preware channel, that actually runs X in a webOS card.
Feb 13 02:48:01 <EricBlade1> there's also at least one Linux distro out there that has been ported to straight up run on it from boot, and of course Android
Feb 13 02:48:33 <EricBlade1> invalidopcode: i know i wish that OS/2 got as good a treatment on the user end as webOS has.  that's sad.
Feb 13 02:49:13 <mamoul> :)
Feb 13 02:49:45 <invalidopcode> EricBlade1: hahaha
Feb 13 02:50:06 <mamoul> I'm trying to be a webos purist so I want to avoid installing a bunch of messy crap on here if I can
Feb 13 02:50:36 <invalidopcode> mamoul: actually cm9 (android) runs pretty well
Feb 13 02:50:48 <mamoul> but there are plenty of Linux utilities I'd like to get at, like a good terminal emulator with bash or something
Feb 13 02:50:57 <mamoul> that runs natively in the webos environment
Feb 13 02:51:16 <invalidopcode> mamoul: WTerm works wonderfully
Feb 13 02:51:29 <invalidopcode> PuffTheMagic did a great job with it
Feb 13 02:51:36 <invalidopcode> its in Preware
Feb 13 02:56:05 <mamoul> first things first I have to figure out how to get preware
Feb 13 02:57:05 <mamoul> I was about to do it I realized that I should pay for it and so now I'm procrastinating
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