**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Tue May 08 03:00:01 2012
May 08 03:47:01 * invalidopcode returns
May 08 03:59:29 <invalidopcode> oh hey EricBlade1 did you noticed that if you receive a google voice message through boxcar and you have gvoice installed, it opens gvoice when you tap on the notification? :)
May 08 04:00:01 <EricBlade1> i saw the log throw an error since i don't ahve gvoice on, but i did notice :)
May 08 04:00:47 <EricBlade1> what i would ideally do is set this up in the application that comes with the service version, and have it trigger a sync on the service
May 08 04:01:18 <invalidopcode> hm... that would work
May 08 04:02:22 <invalidopcode> I originally wanted to set it up as a service itself, where applications could register to be called when a message arrives of a certain type
May 08 04:04:08 <invalidopcode> but from what i've been learning about services I don't think it would be possible
May 08 04:04:45 <EricBlade1> this, i think, is where my idea of having a service call an invisible app comes in :)
May 08 04:05:00 <EricBlade1> except you don't even need to do anything service wise there
May 08 04:06:07 <invalidopcode> ah ok I see
May 08 04:06:13 <invalidopcode> that would be pretty cool
May 08 04:08:26 <invalidopcode> I still can't believe it just started working again....
May 08 04:12:33 <invalidopcode> I'm gonna add a login screen so I can upload the code again :)
May 08 04:32:33 <invalidopcode> welcome PatrickC
May 08 04:32:53 * PatrickC shoots his computer
May 08 04:33:27 <invalidopcode> ok  bye
May 08 04:33:44 <PatrickC> lol
May 08 04:33:50 <PatrickC> my computer has been super slow lately
May 08 04:33:58 <PatrickC> hating the fact i need to use windows for anything :/
May 08 04:34:14 <invalidopcode> time for the annual reinstall?
May 08 04:34:46 <PatrickC> the install is under a month old...
May 08 04:34:55 <PatrickC> on a BRAND NEW hard drive...
May 08 04:35:10 <invalidopcode> wow
May 08 04:41:46 <EricBlade> PatrickC is just bad at Windows
May 08 04:41:51 <EricBlade> :)
May 08 04:41:58 <PatrickC> lol
May 08 04:42:02 <invalidopcode> are you going to take that PatrickC?
May 08 04:42:08 <PatrickC> im getting rid of winblows soon!
May 08 04:42:18 <EricBlade> invalidopcode: did you try that app and have it work again, or was it just me?
May 08 04:42:47 <invalidopcode> EricBlade: it actually worked haha I guess I'll start working on it again
May 08 04:42:59 <PatrickC> EricBlade, my laptop has been screwy, what have you been gvoice texting me? :) touchpad isnt happy either
May 08 04:43:02 <PatrickC> its like tech is out to get me! :P
May 08 04:43:52 <fxspec06> user error
May 08 04:43:59 <invalidopcode> hey EricBlade you're in the screenshot of phnx on here http://www.webosnation.com/webos-apps-twitter
May 08 04:44:19 <invalidopcode> fxspec06: +1
May 08 04:44:31 <PatrickC> EBUAK
May 08 04:44:35 <fxspec06> holy crap webosnation
May 08 04:44:36 <PatrickC> probably :P
May 08 04:44:40 <fxspec06> i haven't been on there in ages
May 08 04:44:42 <PatrickC> fxspec06, what about them?
May 08 04:44:44 <PatrickC> ah lol
May 08 04:44:49 <fxspec06> like, a whole week maybe
May 08 04:45:28 <fxspec06> i probably got filtered out between all my sports tweets
May 08 04:45:28 <invalidopcode> hey PatrickC why isn't Macaw in the App Catalog?
May 08 04:45:31 <EricBlade> WOO i'm FAMOUS
May 08 04:45:37 <PatrickC> invalidopcode, working on that....
May 08 04:45:47 <invalidopcode> EricBlade: can I have your autograph :P
May 08 04:46:15 <fxspec06> eblade don't do it. he's got a carbon paper underneath you don't know what you're signing
May 08 04:46:46 <PatrickC> this laptop is going back to bestbuy... tomorrow...
May 08 04:47:54 <fxspec06> why?
May 08 04:48:38 <invalidopcode> fxspec06: if you had kept your mouth shut I would have been willing to give you a cut :P
May 08 04:48:52 <PatrickC> fxspec06, about 2 weeks ago, they put a brand new hard drive in it.. its already slower then before it went in for service
May 08 04:49:11 <fxspec06> well it would be. because that's what happens. laptops get slower over time
May 08 04:49:23 <fxspec06> you have to know how to manage your computer. it's a skill
May 08 04:49:31 <PatrickC> with a hard drive that is less then 1mo old?
May 08 04:49:43 <PatrickC> in a laptop that is less then 6mo old?
May 08 04:49:46 <fxspec06> it doesn't matter what type of hard drive it is
May 08 04:49:56 <PatrickC> the laptop itself is about 6mo old
May 08 04:50:00 <fxspec06> if you don't take care of your computer, it's going to be slow
May 08 04:50:06 <PatrickC> i do take care of it lol
May 08 04:50:14 <fxspec06> i'm not talking about throwing it arund
May 08 04:50:26 <PatrickC> i know
May 08 04:50:33 <PatrickC> its also just got a slow proc/low amount of ram
May 08 04:50:36 <invalidopcode> PatrickC: you're laptop is only 6months old and your complaining about it being slow? I do all my dev work on a 6 YEAR old computer :P
May 08 04:50:44 <fxspec06> have you done any benchmarks?
May 08 04:50:56 <fxspec06> why should best buy do anything to your computer?
May 08 04:51:03 <PatrickC> invalidopcode, up until i got it 6mo ago, i did all my dev on a 12 YEAR OLD laptop with 128MB RAM!! lol
May 08 04:51:13 <PatrickC> fxspec06, cause i bought a $70 protection plan from them
May 08 04:51:21 <fxspec06> if you couldn't afford a better computer, that's your fault
May 08 04:51:30 <fxspec06> maybe you should have put that $70 towards some better hardware
May 08 04:51:32 <PatrickC> fxspec06, at the time, i couldnt
May 08 04:51:33 <PatrickC> hence why im saving up for a MBP
May 08 04:51:42 <fxspec06> yet you bought a protection plan
May 08 04:51:47 <invalidopcode> PatrickC: I have one of those two... its sitting right here next to me, with zippidy windows 98 :)
May 08 04:51:47 <fxspec06> they're not going to do anything
May 08 04:51:52 <PatrickC> fxspec06, the laptop was $300 w/o the protection plan
May 08 04:51:58 <fxspec06> yeah
May 08 04:52:00 <PatrickC> show me a good laptop for $370
May 08 04:52:01 <fxspec06> so it's a shitty laptop
May 08 04:52:08 <invalidopcode> PatrickC: specs?
May 08 04:52:11 <fxspec06> it's not going to go faster with some geek squad support
May 08 04:52:12 <PatrickC> yes it is, but it used to be faster
May 08 04:52:20 <fxspec06> so do a fresh install
May 08 04:52:21 <fxspec06> bam
May 08 04:52:22 <fxspec06> fast
May 08 04:52:22 <invalidopcode> thats what they all say
May 08 04:52:27 <PatrickC> invalidopcode, on the current or old one? :P
May 08 04:52:32 <invalidopcode> current
May 08 04:52:37 <fxspec06> it's easy to be fast when there's nothing on your hard drive
May 08 04:52:45 <PatrickC> fxspec06, the point is, i shouldnt have to on a 2 week old install
May 08 04:53:03 <fxspec06> computer components degrade over time
May 08 04:53:09 <fxspec06> computers get slower as they age
May 08 04:53:11 <fxspec06> everything ages
May 08 04:53:18 <fxspec06> oxidization
May 08 04:53:23 <fxspec06> heat
May 08 04:53:26 <fxspec06> dust
May 08 04:53:31 <PatrickC> invalidopcode, 1gen i3 (i3-370m), 3GB ram, 320GB hdd
May 08 04:53:33 <fxspec06> multitudes of factors in play
May 08 04:53:49 <PatrickC> yet my dads 6 year old dell is still blazing fast
May 08 04:53:51 <PatrickC> with less ram
May 08 04:53:52 <fxspec06> humidity
May 08 04:53:54 <PatrickC> and a slower processor
May 08 04:54:06 <PatrickC> explain that
May 08 04:54:10 <invalidopcode> PatrickC: that's faster than my laptop
May 08 04:54:11 <fxspec06> and yours is a crappy $300 laptop
May 08 04:54:21 <PatrickC> with better specs
May 08 04:54:33 <fxspec06> k.
May 08 04:54:35 * fxspec06 done
May 08 04:54:37 <PatrickC> my laptop was a $600 laptop
May 08 04:54:41 <PatrickC> i got it on sale/open boc
May 08 04:54:43 <PatrickC> box*
May 08 04:54:48 <PatrickC> which is why it was so cheap
May 08 04:54:51 <invalidopcode> mine's 1.86 Intel, 2 GB ram, 320GB drive
May 08 04:54:52 <fxspec06> you just said it was $300
May 08 04:54:54 <PatrickC> not that its a piece of crap
May 08 04:54:57 * PatrickC is done too
May 08 04:55:03 <PatrickC> yes, thats what i paid
May 08 04:55:09 <fxspec06> $600 for a laptop is still crap
May 08 04:55:22 <invalidopcode> here you go PatrickC http://www.redmondpie.com/apple-preparing-799-macbook-air-to-counter-the-ultrabook-market-report/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+RedmondPie+%28Redmond+Pie%29
May 08 04:55:27 <fxspec06> you're not going to get hardly any speed from a laptop under $1200
May 08 04:55:34 <fxspec06> any age
May 08 04:55:37 <fxspec06> any era
May 08 04:55:37 <PatrickC> when your coming from a P2 processor, with 128MB ram, anythings an upgrade
May 08 04:55:46 <PatrickC> fxspec06, its just to hold me over till i get my MBP
May 08 04:55:46 <fxspec06> you want speed? you pay for speed
May 08 04:56:15 <fxspec06> i just don't understand why you're complaining
May 08 04:56:22 <fxspec06> why you need to take it to best buy
May 08 04:56:27 <fxspec06> what are they gona do
May 08 04:56:34 <PatrickC> because before it went in for service it was fine on speed, now it is horrid
May 08 04:56:45 <PatrickC> 3 weeks shouldnt make any difference that drastically
May 08 04:57:06 <fxspec06> again, have you done any benchmarks?
May 08 04:57:20 <PatrickC> suggestions? i don't normally do those lol
May 08 04:57:21 <fxspec06> do you have startup services?
May 08 04:57:35 <fxspec06> have you checked msconfig to see what's starting up?
May 08 04:57:38 <PatrickC> it starts up trillian and thunderbird
May 08 04:57:49 <fxspec06> have you checked your running processes?
May 08 04:57:59 <PatrickC> 118 running processes
May 08 04:58:02 <fxspec06> odds are you've got a ton of background programs running
May 08 04:58:08 <PatrickC> using 58% physical memory
May 08 04:58:12 <fxspec06> dude
May 08 04:58:17 <PatrickC> and CPU usage is at 5%
May 08 04:58:17 <fxspec06> i've got 72 processes running
May 08 04:58:21 <fxspec06> on my six core
May 08 04:58:27 <fxspec06> you need to manage your pc
May 08 04:58:28 <invalidopcode> that's 1.72 GB isn't that?
May 08 04:58:38 <PatrickC> chrome alone has like 6 open
May 08 04:58:47 <PatrickC> invalidopcode, close to it
May 08 04:58:57 <fxspec06> your tiny little laptop isn't designed to multitask like that
May 08 04:58:59 <PatrickC> my widget is showing 1.6GB approx
May 08 04:59:02 <invalidopcode> thats kind alot
May 08 04:59:05 <fxspec06> you're probably seeing exactly the performance you should be
May 08 04:59:24 <PatrickC> it used to run at 70% RAM and be faster then this
May 08 04:59:34 <fxspec06> again, there's so many factors
May 08 05:00:03 <fxspec06> read some articles on msconfig.exe and services.msc
May 08 05:00:18 <fxspec06> throw in a flash drive and use it as readyboost
May 08 05:00:36 <PatrickC> chrome has 16 processes running
May 08 05:01:28 <fxspec06> again, what is best buy gonna do? and have you ran any benchmarks?
May 08 05:01:46 <PatrickC> like i said, suggestions?
May 08 05:01:49 <PatrickC> i dont normally do those kind of things lol
May 08 05:02:20 <fxspec06> you're concerned about speed, maybe you should look into it
May 08 05:02:26 <fxspec06> i've given you many suggestions.
May 08 05:02:35 <PatrickC> ok...
May 08 05:04:41 <fxspec06> you can run WEI
May 08 05:04:47 <fxspec06> windows experience index
May 08 05:04:49 <fxspec06> for hard drive you can try sisoft sandra
May 08 05:04:58 <PatrickC> svchost.exe is taking up a gig of ram itself
May 08 05:05:10 <fxspec06> for 3d you can try 3dmark 06 but don't expect to get anything above 4k
May 08 05:05:16 <fxspec06> svchost is a windows process.
May 08 05:05:31 <PatrickC> i know it is
May 08 05:05:42 <PatrickC> but its a little power hungry for taking up a third of my ram
May 08 05:05:56 <fxspec06> windows 7 is smart with its ram.
May 08 05:06:03 <fxspec06> i'm sure whatever svchost is doing you need it
May 08 05:06:17 <PatrickC> probably
May 08 05:06:25 <fxspec06> "power hungry" -- that is your operating system. i'm sure it's power hungry.
May 08 05:06:33 <PatrickC> im about ready to switch to windows 8.. maybe...
May 08 05:06:37 <fxspec06> just like luna is "power hungry" to webos.
May 08 05:06:39 <PatrickC> svchost.exe isnt the operating system
May 08 05:06:41 <fxspec06> windows 8 is no better
May 08 05:06:50 <fxspec06> okay -- close it and see what happens
May 08 05:07:00 <PatrickC> if anything, i would expect to see explorer.exe taking up a ton of ram
May 08 05:07:07 <PatrickC> as thats thats the UI
May 08 05:08:23 <invalidopcode> PatrickC: the more stuff the system can keep in the ram, the less it has to swap, so the faster your computer will be
May 08 05:08:31 <fxspec06> ^^^^^^^^
May 08 05:09:03 <invalidopcode> fxspec06: isn't that correct?
May 08 05:09:31 <Loudergood> I'd bet my money on an Antivirus issue
May 08 05:09:40 * PatrickC boots back to ubuntu
May 08 05:09:45 <PatrickC> Loudergood: r
May 08 05:09:56 <PatrickC> im running mse
May 08 05:11:13 <PatrickC> and MSE has always been good on RAM
May 08 05:11:21 <PatrickC> for me anyway (on other, slower machines)
May 08 05:11:42 <Loudergood> and has anything norton ever touched that computer?
May 08 05:12:06 <PatrickC> it was on it originally, but i never started it, and completely removed it before doing anything else
May 08 05:12:16 <PatrickC> stupid gateway has it on the install disk as preloaded bloatware
May 08 05:12:33 <Loudergood> and moron squad never reinstalled it?
May 08 05:12:42 <PatrickC> they did reinstall it
May 08 05:12:51 <PatrickC> they used the gateway install disks that i made
May 08 05:13:13 <PatrickC> but gateway has no way of choosing what bloatware is on the install cd they have you make
May 08 05:14:14 <invalidopcode> the newer versions of norton aren't that bad
May 08 05:14:39 <PatrickC> i prefer MSE
May 08 05:15:02 <invalidopcode> yeah i use that too....
May 08 05:15:34 <PatrickC> told it to run a full scan last night, it wasnt even 50% done after 24hours
May 08 05:15:55 <Loudergood> now my money is on disk issues
May 08 05:16:08 <Loudergood> is it slow in ubuntu?
May 08 05:16:13 <PatrickC> not at all
May 08 05:16:15 <PatrickC> blazing fast
May 08 05:16:25 <Loudergood> install the intel chipset drivers
May 08 05:16:47 <Loudergood> my money is on a driver problem with you SATA controller
May 08 05:16:55 <PatrickC> hmm.. possibly
May 08 05:17:04 <PatrickC> but wouldnt it affect ubuntu as well?
May 08 05:17:23 <Loudergood> every os has its own drivers
May 08 05:17:46 <Loudergood> they're software that tells the kernel how to interact with the hardware
May 08 05:17:48 <PatrickC> ah.. i would think that the SATA controller would be the same for everything
May 08 05:20:22 <invalidopcode> or check to see if something got changed with the driver config like DMA access or something
May 08 10:08:56 <ome> is true that webOS has got deprecated ?
May 08 10:09:19 <ome> and there won't be further development ?
May 08 18:50:37 <Roy-Pre1011> ka6sox: You around?
May 08 18:50:50 <halfhalo> dundundun...
May 08 19:27:15 <fxspec06> hey did everyone see the new graphs
May 08 19:48:21 <PatrickC> i saw something about them
May 08 20:18:49 <EricBlade> \o
May 08 20:20:25 <Jake_M> qqqquestion: i had 3.0.5 SDK, then I installed 2.2.4 SDK because I need it, but ever since then, using palm-install never finishes when installing on Touchpad, what is wrong
May 08 20:21:33 <PatrickC> Jake_M: i think it overwrote the 3.0.5 sdk when you installed the 224 sdk
May 08 20:21:37 <PatrickC> oh, and long time no see :)
May 08 20:21:41 <Jake_M> but its there in the emulator
May 08 20:21:57 <PatrickC> that doesn't mean the PATH is pointing to the same command for palm-install
May 08 20:22:05 <Jake_M> weeellllllll how do i do that
May 08 20:22:13 <PatrickC> reinstall the 305 one :)
May 08 20:22:23 <Jake_M> but it's installed
May 08 20:22:36 <PatrickC> re-install it
May 08 20:23:59 <Jake_M> ffucckkkkkk my internet is slow and it's like 260MB
May 08 20:24:09 <Jake_M> est. time remaining: 2 hours
May 08 20:29:32 <fxspec06> woahhhh and there's a new site
May 08 20:29:40 <fxspec06> that, or my css didn't download
May 08 20:29:57 <fxspec06> https://developer.palm.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&layout=page&id=1788
May 08 20:30:03 <fxspec06> that's a new / different layout
May 08 20:30:38 <Jake_M> also says 2.1
May 08 20:30:41 <Jake_M> probably old
May 08 20:30:48 <fxspec06> lol
May 08 20:30:55 <fxspec06> starting with 1.4.5 release of the sdk
May 08 20:30:59 <Jake_M> hey bryan
May 08 20:31:04 <fxspec06> yes
May 08 20:31:34 <fxspec06> hello ziggy
May 08 20:32:01 <Jake_M> dude they're always emailing me with taht shit
May 08 20:32:02 <Jake_M> him and sean
May 08 20:32:06 <fxspec06> lmao
May 08 20:32:06 <Jake_M> i got like 9 emails today
May 08 20:32:58 <fxspec06> what is the webos eclipse package site
May 08 20:33:26 <Jake_M> you mean the one that supports webos 1.3.1
May 08 20:33:30 <Jake_M> and nothing higher?
May 08 20:33:37 <fxspec06> i was thinking 1.0.0
May 08 20:33:44 <Jake_M> https://developer.palm.com/content/resources/develop/developing_with_the_eclipse_ide.html
May 08 20:34:08 <Jake_M> https://cdn.downloads.palm.com/sdkdownloads/eclipse/update-site/site.xml
May 08 20:34:09 <fxspec06> tyvm
May 08 20:34:16 <fxspec06> i coldn't find it
May 08 20:34:56 <fxspec06> stupid titanium wouldn't update to ver 2
May 08 20:35:04 <fxspec06> i had to uninstall and reinstall and i lost all my plugins =(
May 08 20:35:15 <Jake_M> i develop with windows notepad
May 08 20:35:27 <fxspec06> well aren't you just a badass
May 08 20:35:29 <Tibfib_> ….. sooo I'll ask again. Anyone have experience with the key service?
May 08 20:35:45 <Jake_M> will honey more like bee's like honey
May 08 20:35:53 <fxspec06> Jake_M: isn't today national ignore Tibfib_ day
May 08 20:35:55 <Tibfib_> keygen
May 08 20:36:07 <Tibfib> well the last time I asked was like a week ago
May 08 20:36:33 <Jake_M> https://developer.palm.com/content/api/reference/services/key-manager.html
May 08 20:36:37 <Tibfib> Jake_M: I've heard lots of different "jokes" but never have I heard that one
May 08 20:36:56 <Jake_M> so when's Enyo Messenger coming out?
May 08 20:37:05 <Tibfib> oh yes, the page that I spent hours on trying to figure out what's wrong
May 08 20:37:15 <Tibfib> lulz, it's not
May 08 20:37:19 <fxspec06> LOL
May 08 20:37:21 <PatrickC> Tibfib: have you sent in for your key yet?
May 08 20:37:22 <fxspec06> *lol
May 08 20:37:39 <fxspec06> that was an undercase lol. i'm not laughing that hard
May 08 20:37:40 <Jake_M> the successor to mojo messenger
May 08 20:37:40 <Tibfib> PatrickC: that's a separate thing
May 08 20:37:51 <Jake_M> critically acclaimed webos messenger service
May 08 20:38:01 <PatrickC> ah.. when i was looking into key manager, i thought you had to have one
May 08 20:38:17 <Jake_M> bryan you're awesome
May 08 20:38:19 <Jake_M> just...awesome
May 08 20:38:36 <Tibfib> PatrickC: perhaps you are right… that'd be weird
May 08 20:39:00 <Tibfib> (I kid I kid)
May 08 20:39:06 <fxspec06> i'm not as awesome as some people
May 08 20:39:17 <fxspec06> i'm only 90% awesome today
May 08 20:39:22 <Jake_M> bryan you know what else i like? apps
May 08 20:39:36 <Jake_M> and there's nothing i enjoy more than a limited liability compmany
May 08 20:39:43 <Tibfib> afaik, there is the keygen that you can have HP add keys to or whatever to protect your API keys. and then there is an keygen you can use in your app to protect user data
May 08 20:41:29 <Jake_M> we're going to add a easter egg to apollo: 10 finger swipe will control the volume
May 08 20:42:59 <PatrickC> Tibfib: i think the one i was thinking about was the one for API keys. thats what i was looking into (iirc)
May 08 20:44:51 <Jake_M> you know what my favorite part about webOS documentation is?
May 08 20:44:55 <Jake_M> we only have 15% of it
May 08 20:45:31 <Tibfib> I know right
May 08 20:45:46 <PatrickC> we have that much?
May 08 20:51:19 * Jake_M looks at IRC, sees "oilsworkn"
May 08 20:51:27 * Jake_M goes on Twitter, oil is replying to Tibfib
May 08 20:51:33 <Jake_M> oilsslackn
May 08 20:53:30 <oilsworkn> totally
May 08 20:53:36 <Jake_M> i love you oil
May 08 20:53:37 <Jake_M> you're great
May 08 20:53:39 <Jake_M> i gotta go bye
May 08 20:53:48 <Tibfib> haha
May 08 20:54:08 <oilsslackn> Tibfib: i haven't been doing anything
May 08 20:54:17 <oilsslackn> well, thats a lie, but, nothing webos related anyways
May 08 20:54:36 <Tibfib> what about other projects?
May 08 20:55:03 <oilsslackn> no new personal projects, mostly stuff to make money
May 08 20:55:14 <oilsslackn> lots of php
May 08 20:55:25 <Tibfib> gotcha
May 08 20:55:39 <PatrickC> long time no see oilsslackn lol
May 08 20:55:46 <Tibfib> trying to get back into stuff… but not sure what to do
May 08 20:56:00 <oilsslackn> is it funny that the last program i wrote for a mobile device was in c# for windows mobile 6.5?
May 08 20:56:04 <oilsslackn> lol
May 08 20:56:07 <PatrickC> lol
May 08 20:57:13 <oilsslackn> for these guys we use at work: http://www.nationalbarcode.com/Symbol/images/Symbol_MC9060-G.jpg
May 08 20:58:18 <oilsslackn> Tibfib: i was recently looking at enyo2 thinking "hey, ill write an app"
May 08 20:58:30 <oilsslackn> then noticed it had no webos-stuff to allow it to be packaged as an app
May 08 20:59:19 <summatusmentis> you can package it w/ phonegap, iirc
May 08 21:00:52 <oilsslackn> ehhhh
May 08 21:01:14 <summatusmentis> basically, I think it works, you just have to point your app to the proper enyo install
May 08 21:01:26 <EricBlade> Tibfib: i have experience with keymanager now
May 08 21:01:37 <EricBlade> brb thoguh upgrading pidgin
May 08 21:01:40 <Tibfib> !
May 08 21:01:43 <Tibfib> :(
May 08 21:04:28 <EricBlade> yay i'm back
May 08 21:04:41 <EricBlade> my experience with keymanager so far: it doesn't like to always return in a timely fashion
May 08 21:05:02 <oilsslackn> lol
May 08 21:05:27 <fxspec06> anyone know why i'd get a connection refused error on titanium startup
May 08 21:05:32 <fxspec06> or more specifically, how to get rid of it
May 08 21:05:38 <Tibfib> EricBlade: well have you gotten it to work?
May 08 21:05:42 <EricBlade> yes it works
May 08 21:05:43 <Tibfib> I seem to be able to encrypt
May 08 21:05:45 <Tibfib> but not decrypt
May 08 21:05:50 <Tibfib> mind looking at some of my code?
May 08 21:06:04 <EricBlade> i'm completely clueless as to what purpose it serves though, i just followed the example from the dev site
May 08 21:06:06 <EricBlade> sure
May 08 21:06:46 <Tibfib> have you been able to decrypt?
May 08 21:07:40 <fxspec06> ah nvm it's related ot my apanta
May 08 21:08:08 <oilsslackn> oh, haven't opened eclipse in a while
May 08 21:08:26 <oilsslackn> sublime text 2 is just so much better in almost every regard
May 08 21:09:04 <Tibfib> agreed
May 08 21:10:28 <summatusmentis> can you run code from sublime?
May 08 21:10:40 <Tibfib> not exactly
May 08 21:10:42 <oilsslackn> "almost every" :)
May 08 21:10:43 <Tibfib> not an ide
May 08 21:11:03 <oilsslackn> that was the only part eclipse has over it imo
May 08 21:13:26 <fxspec06> meh
May 08 21:13:31 <fxspec06> i'm happy with titanium
May 08 21:13:38 <fxspec06> thanks to haeffb
May 08 21:14:53 <fxspec06> it takes a while to get a new dev computer set up.
May 08 21:15:49 <oilsslackn> Tibfib: learn python and make a plugin for sublimetext to package/install/debug an app :)
May 08 21:15:59 <Tibfib> meh
May 08 21:16:06 <oilsslackn> lol
May 08 21:16:22 <fxspec06> where's koto enyo btw
May 08 21:16:27 <oilsslackn> http://net.tutsplus.com/tutorials/python-tutorials/how-to-create-a-sublime-text-2-plugin/
May 08 21:17:02 <Tibfib> fxspec06: it died
May 08 21:17:04 <Tibfib> it sorta works now
May 08 21:17:10 <Tibfib> but is ugly
May 08 21:17:11 <oilsslackn> its a zombie?
May 08 21:17:16 <Tibfib> not a zombie
May 08 21:17:17 <Tibfib> just dead
May 08 21:17:24 <fxspec06> if it works, it's not dead
May 08 21:17:30 <Tibfib> no it's dead
May 08 21:17:37 <oilsslackn> lol
May 08 21:17:39 * fxspec06 *sniff
May 08 21:17:51 <Tibfib> you and me both
May 08 21:18:14 <summatusmentis> does sublime do refactoring?
May 08 21:18:14 <fxspec06> you should make a new one, and call it otok
May 08 21:18:16 * oilsslackn pours some of his slushy on the ground...
May 08 21:18:34 <summatusmentis> I can only hope your slushy has whisky in it
May 08 21:18:49 <oilsslackn> its purple
May 08 21:18:59 <oilsslackn> and im at work
May 08 21:19:07 <summatusmentis> so... yes?
May 08 21:19:12 <oilsslackn> lol
May 08 21:19:27 <oilsslackn> it doesnt
May 08 21:19:55 <oilsslackn> does grape slushy and whisky go together though?
May 08 21:21:20 <fxspec06> there's only one way to find out
May 08 21:21:46 <oilsslackn> sadly the slushy will be gone by the time i get home to test
May 08 21:22:01 <fxspec06> that's why you bring whisky to work.
May 08 21:23:09 <oilsslackn> i dont think being intoxicated will improve my code
May 08 21:23:44 <oilsslackn> i have a hard time focusing on a screen while under the influence of alcohol
May 08 21:24:32 <madnificent> oilsslackn: it depends on the amount, but i generally find myself removing the code i wrote under influence alltogether
May 08 21:26:43 <oilsslackn> lol
May 08 21:46:24 <Tibfib> node is cool
May 08 21:46:30 <Tibfib> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jo_B4LTHi3I
May 08 21:52:54 <summatusmentis> I've heard that
May 08 22:04:10 <ka6sox> Roy-Pre101, I'm here now.
May 08 22:13:12 <Tibfib> so I think I may install node.js onto my server and make a fun lil "mojo messenger" clone
May 08 22:17:10 <PatrickC> Tibfib: do you still have the ipk somewhere?
May 08 22:17:17 <PatrickC> i tried to find it a while ago, but couldnt anywhere
May 08 22:17:26 <Tibfib> PatrickC: of what?
May 08 22:17:29 <Tibfib> mojo messenger?
May 08 22:17:32 <PatrickC> yeah
May 08 22:17:34 <Tibfib> I still have all of it
May 08 22:17:46 <PatrickC> sweet
May 08 22:17:54 <PatrickC> i never got to use it :/ but heard it was cool
May 08 22:17:57 <Tibfib> I'm not even sure if the server works anymore. If it does, I need to take it down
May 08 22:18:00 <PatrickC> back in the day when webOS was still cool
May 08 22:18:09 <Tibfib> bbl
May 08 22:18:22 <PatrickC> brb
May 08 22:23:49 <Roy-Pre101> ka6sox: I wrote you an e-mail.
May 08 22:24:50 <ka6sox> ah, okay...
May 08 22:26:45 <ka6sox> I see it...
May 08 22:26:55 <ka6sox> lets Chat :D
May 08 22:27:39 <siestacat-touchp> is wp7 an alright platform to develop for?
May 08 22:27:44 <Roy-Pre101> Now or later?
May 08 22:27:55 <ka6sox> now is good.
May 08 22:28:09 <ka6sox> PM me.
May 08 22:28:29 <ka6sox> siestacat-touchp, why would we know?
May 08 22:30:10 <Roy-Pre101> I'm sure someone here does.  You could use Enyo and develop for any platform. :)
May 08 22:30:37 <PatrickC> siestacat-touchp: i love it
May 08 22:30:48 <PatrickC> Roy-Pre101: not WP7
May 08 22:31:09 <PatrickC> sadly :/
May 08 22:31:55 <PatrickC> ooo... super skerit conversation between ka6sox and Roy-Pre101 .... :)
May 08 22:32:14 <ka6sox> heh
May 08 22:32:23 <PatrickC> how you been ka6sox?
May 08 22:32:26 <ka6sox> just trying to listen without all the peanut gallery.
May 08 22:32:45 <PatrickC> lol.. probably best
May 08 22:32:57 * PatrickC cant wait for this new project hes working on to go live
May 08 22:33:11 <Roy-Pre101> What's skerit? :)
May 08 22:33:23 <PatrickC> then i can finally start working on my wp7 project, which is one most webos fans will like if they jumped to wp7 :)
May 08 22:33:28 <halfhalo> [REDACTED] is!
May 08 22:33:31 <PatrickC> Roy-Pre101: its skerit! :)
May 08 22:34:32 <PatrickC> halfhalo: long time no see
May 08 22:35:39 <Roy-Pre101> C'mon Patrick… you can only do so much to the English language before it breaks!
May 08 22:36:41 <PatrickC> Roy-Pre101: hence why English is my worst subjekt :P
May 08 22:36:45 <PatrickC> lol
May 08 22:40:51 <Roy-Pre101> Oof.
May 08 22:41:42 * PatrickC is off to Dairy Queen
May 08 22:42:03 <PatrickC> Roy-Pre101: nice seeing ya again. been a while. be on later? have a few questions for you about WOR togo
May 08 22:42:42 <Roy-Pre101> Dunno, maybe?
May 08 22:43:06 <PatrickC> ok.. if not, PM me your email? (lost it in all my laptop troubles lol)
May 08 22:48:51 <dkirker> Roy-Pre101: Get back to work!
May 08 22:49:42 <Roy-Pre101> Pfuh.  It's 6:49 PM
May 08 22:52:15 <halfhalo> silly time zones
May 09 00:16:26 * EricBlade yawns
May 09 01:39:33 <riskish> promocodes! who wants em?
May 09 02:00:13 <wapp> i do
May 09 02:03:12 <PatrickC> riskish: me!!
May 09 02:05:41 <riskish> pm'd both!
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