**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Wed May 23 02:59:59 2012 **** ENDING LOGGING AT Wed May 23 04:35:22 2012 **** BEGIN LOGGING AT Wed May 23 04:36:15 2012 May 23 12:23:51 TouchPads up on woot May 23 12:53:53 ok, buying some accessories for my webos devices on amazon .. what else do i need.. hmm May 23 12:54:49 got a case and a screen prot for my pre3, an external battery charger for the older batteries, gonna try a cheap desktop mountable lcd monitor arm, and a super cheap DVI-D cable for my media PC May 23 13:18:29 hi! my veer suddenly feels more sluggish, animations are less smooth than usual, I am trying to debug it and make sure it's not just my imagination. top (via novaterm) shows a load of about 7.5, is that normal? May 23 13:19:36 tacts.linker.js / pmvoicecommand / node_fork_server / mojodb-luna are top CPU processes with about 10-15% each May 23 13:34:59 sounds normal for most webOS devices i've seen May 23 13:36:15 hmm, even when idling? no data connection at the moment, CPU freq seems to be stuck at 800MHz (stock kernel, it's charging via the USB connection right now, though) May 23 13:37:47 hmm, just noticed that there are lots of pmvoicecommand entries in /var/log/messages, > 10/s May 23 13:46:23 anytime i look at my pre3, it's around a 9 loadavg, pre2 is around a 10 May 23 14:05:34 http://www.amazon.com/Board-Dudes-14-Inch-Magnetic-45000UA-4/dp/B001G60J4E/ref=sr_1_2?s=office-products&ie=UTF8&qid=1337781906&sr=1-2 May 23 14:05:45 toggling google for contatcs off/on seems to have changed things, no more crazy log entries or constant cpu usage. load averages a bit lower (5.5) now, animations smooth again May 23 14:47:16 so anyone know if the flashcard app for webos / hp touchpad is similar to anki in the 'spaced repitions" ? anyone used ankiweb on it? May 23 14:47:47 woops, sorry :) wrong channel May 23 14:48:00 hmm. looks like yahoo on pre3 is broken May 23 15:40:02 EricBlade1, what part of yahoo? May 23 15:55:39 so the application store for webos devices still exists and is supported? May 23 16:01:51 Plazma, yes May 23 16:05:31 sweet May 23 17:06:33 whoooa the touchpad phone app is crazy May 23 17:17:04 touchpad phone app? May 23 17:47:07 yeah the phone app on the touchpad. it sucks. May 23 17:50:22 how so May 23 17:52:18 well when it's connected to a phone, the phone doesn't mute, sometimes it forgets that it's actually on a call, so you'll be talking to someone, and the "end call" button wants to make a call not end it .. May 23 17:54:56 Apollo is such a nice pandora client May 23 17:55:04 I like it so much more than the html5 ui May 23 17:59:45 ahh, I've never found much reason to make a phone call from the touchpad May 23 17:59:52 I've made a couple of skype calls, that was it May 23 18:00:08 I think I did one phone call via the pre2 when I first got it May 23 18:05:14 so are most webos apps in html5/javascript or java ? or is it C++ like previous palm stuff May 23 18:06:02 html May 23 18:12:39 lol, TTS May 23 18:13:01 If I have maximized browsers on both my phone and tablet, they share both May 23 19:29:32 what would you expect to happen? May 23 19:32:33 rrix: yes, that caught me by surprise too, but then i realized quickly "duh, how would it know which way you wanted to go anyway" May 23 19:35:55 the other alternative is to do nothing, and require an empty browser window May 23 19:40:07 You'd think it could use the accelerometers to see which device is tapping and which is being tapped May 23 19:41:32 dunno... when I put my pre3 on my touchpad, it could be either way May 23 19:41:47 (then again, I don't bother with TTS, given its terribly limited functionality) May 23 19:42:40 I pretty much just use it to bounce articles I find in Carbon while on the bus on to my tablet May 23 19:42:48 I wish we could hack on TTS :\ May 23 19:43:23 I'd find it a little unwieldy to try to try to whack the touchpad into the back of the pre3 May 23 20:13:13 can I ask a basic HTML/CSS question here? May 23 20:13:33 will that irritate people? May 23 20:13:57 EricBlade1: guess what... the opengl test program works anyway, despite my opengl version. horray! :) May 23 20:20:43 summatusmentis: if you make it part of a webos app, I don't see why anyone could have cause to complain May 23 20:21:24 and if it's really basic, I might even know the answer! May 23 20:22:17 I'm trying to use mapstraction (a JS map library), and it asks for a div name to populate using a given mapping API May 23 20:22:31 I want the div to be a given % of the height May 23 20:22:50 but when I specify "min-height: 50%;" it just stays at 0 May 23 20:23:49 and yeah, it's for an enyo2 app w/ phonegap, which we will likely release on webOS May 23 20:25:29 mapstraction abstracts the various map providers into a single API, and the div I give it is where it puts everything that it pulls down from the APIs May 23 21:38:57 summatusmentis: sorry, beyond me May 23 21:39:05 me too :-/ May 23 21:39:24 I fell off the html train around 4.01/transitional =p May 23 21:39:31 "css? what's that?" May 23 21:40:32 bahah May 24 02:40:25 * invalidopcode can sense PatrickC's presence in this room May 24 02:41:22 no u cant! **** ENDING LOGGING AT Thu May 24 02:59:58 2012