**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Fri Jun 08 02:59:59 2012 Jun 08 03:04:11 amazon doesn't like my magnifying glass as a loading icon Jun 08 03:04:25 my solution: the load gorilla http://i.imgur.com/YoaNu.png Jun 08 15:03:41 is there a bug tracker for webOS? Jun 08 15:04:11 actually, not webOS, but the SDK Jun 08 15:30:24 has anybody else had issues with palm-install not actually installing, and not giving an error either, acting as if it worked? Jun 08 17:22:27 lemonade`: i've only seen that if you try to install something with an older version number than what is already installed Jun 08 17:22:51 in which case, you should remove the app from the device before running the install Jun 08 17:25:25 EricBlade: actually I've been fiddling around and it doesn't seem to be a failed install... what I was doing was I had a *(int*)0; in my code and it was only crashing sometimes, so I was wondering why. it turns out that when I palm-install when the app is running, something happens where it looks like the executable ends up not being run (it's a hybrid app), but that doesn't happen when I quit the program and th Jun 08 17:25:25 en palm-install. Jun 08 17:26:49 which is a bit annoying because palm-install doesn't warn me about that. Jun 08 17:27:35 hmm. seems a bit odd, but i haven't seen too many hybrid apps so i'm not sure if that's normal. Jun 08 17:28:26 seems like it would overwrite the file, and next time it runs, the new file would be used, like you'd expect. maybe it can't overwrite it while it's running though Jun 08 17:28:58 when i have weird problems with the installer, i tail /var/log/messages to see what it's doing Jun 08 17:28:59 hey, another question for folks... what happens to the standard streams? can I get stdout/stderr on my computer somehow, like Mojo.Log.info? Jun 08 17:29:28 EricBlade: yeah, you'd think, but it doesn't look like it's working quite like that. Jun 08 17:29:48 stdout/stderr go to /var/log/messages, you can use either palm-log or palm-run (installs, runs, and tails the log) Jun 08 17:30:44 oh I must need to -f something other than my app I guess Jun 08 17:31:24 for the plugin, i'm not sure about if it's stdout gets redirected or not Jun 08 17:31:56 if you can get a shell on device, look directly at /var/log/messages and see Jun 08 17:36:11 nope, stdout isn't going to /var/log/messages Jun 08 17:38:57 easy way to see where it's going is to use /proc or lsof Jun 08 17:46:53 you should be able to write to a file on /media/internal Jun 08 17:59:35 hmm... /dev/null. Jun 08 18:06:41 cat /dev/urandom >> /etc/fstab Jun 08 18:06:43 gg Jun 08 23:10:28 does opengl not work with hybrid apps on the pixi, or am I just doing it wrong somehow? Jun 08 23:16:18 i seem to recall there being some limitations to the pixi's opengl but i can't recall what i read, since i've never had a pixi, and haven't worried about it. also, i don't know anything about native or opengl programming on mobile. Jun 08 23:16:27 which is kind of stupid of me considering that mobile is apparently my niche Jun 08 23:19:09 hehe Jun 08 23:19:40 yeah I seem to remember that limitation, but I can't locate where it is in the documentation. Jun 08 23:21:30 maybe it was that it only supports ogl 1.1 ? Jun 08 23:22:11 no, it definitely supports 2.0, since the sample PDK app is 2.0 and it runs, but that's a straight-up PDK app, not a hybrid. Jun 08 23:22:58 does yours run if you run it standalone? Jun 08 23:23:19 haven't tried it... good idea. Jun 08 23:51:49 lemonade`, hybrid on pixi is broken Jun 09 00:01:51 RagingMind: do you know the technical reasons behind it? Jun 09 00:23:28 not off hand, but I remember reading stuff that mentioned it Jun 09 02:07:46 Is there someone here who could help me with cross-compiling for webos? armv7l? **** ENDING LOGGING AT Sat Jun 09 02:59:58 2012