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Apr 12 12:50:51 <zoidburg> hello is anyone here who has a veer?
Apr 12 12:50:55 <zoidburg> i have 2 but no usb cable :-) i need to know which pins are vcc gnd d+ and d-
Apr 12 13:00:44 <zoidburg> anyone alive?
Apr 12 13:07:43 <Herrie> Hi Zoidburg-> I have some Veers here, but no idea about the pins...
Apr 12 13:08:00 <Herrie> I think someone posted the layout on webOSNation though....
Apr 12 13:13:04 <HaDAk> omg florin
Apr 12 13:13:12 <HaDAk> once you save your changes, you must COMMIT them
Apr 12 13:13:15 * HaDAk facepalms
Apr 12 13:25:42 <zoidburg> Herrie: do you have a multimeter or something?
Apr 12 13:26:21 <zoidburg> HaDAk: do you have the link where someone posted the layout?
Apr 12 13:27:30 <zoidburg> oh deammed i don't wanted to write to HaDAk sorry :-)
Apr 12 13:27:48 <HaDAk> it's ok. nobody loves me. :(
Apr 12 13:28:36 <zoidburg> noooo :-) sorry don't make me a mean person
Apr 12 13:28:37 <zoidburg> ^^
Apr 12 13:29:01 * HaDAk runs off sobbing
Apr 12 13:29:50 <zoidburg> :-)
Apr 12 13:30:12 <zoidburg> HaDAk: but you can make me happy if you would say that you have a veer :-)
Apr 12 13:30:17 <zoidburg> and a usb cable
Apr 12 13:30:30 <zoidburg> and a multimeter :-) or some kind of diode tester
Apr 12 13:36:38 <Herrie> I have all, just no time right now... If you can send me instructions by email I can have a look later today or tomorrow ;)
Apr 12 13:36:46 <Herrie> me (at) herrie (dot) org
Apr 12 13:42:00 <zoidburg> oh thank you Herrie very nice of you
Apr 12 13:59:50 <HaDAk> zoidburg: i've never had a veer. :P
Apr 12 14:16:40 <zoidburg> HaDAk: ok no problem...
Apr 12 14:17:11 <HaDAk> zoidburg: but rumor has it you're going to give me yours.
Apr 12 14:17:17 <HaDAk> it's a rumor i just started.
Apr 12 14:17:20 <HaDAk> and it's true.
Apr 12 14:19:32 <zoidburg> lol
Apr 12 14:20:21 <zoidburg> HaDAk: i have 2 but one has no display and no working backcover (i could give that away ^^) and the other is in use by me so i have proven that rumor wrong
Apr 12 14:21:09 <zoidburg> HaDAk: if you want one without display and backcover then sure, but only in exchange with other cool hardware :-)
Apr 12 14:21:23 <HaDAk> hmm. what do i have that's cool...
Apr 12 14:23:07 <csc`> but you have zoidburg!
Apr 12 14:23:38 <zoidburg> what do i have?
Apr 12 14:24:30 <zoidburg> :-) HaDAk it doesn't have to be useful since a veer without display and working buttons isn't useful as well but it has to be something cool and geeky :-)
Apr 12 14:24:44 <zoidburg> csc`: what do you mean i don't get it
Apr 12 14:24:48 <HaDAk> i have a zipit running a custom build of linux ;D
Apr 12 14:25:37 <csc`> :o
Apr 12 14:25:47 <csc`> do you have a inline serial jack mod? :P
Apr 12 14:25:59 <csc`> built into the hinge?
Apr 12 14:26:29 <csc`> zoidburg, you know what i could do with a veer that has a broken screen and no buttons with devmode enabled?
Apr 12 14:27:08 <zoidburg> HaDAk: sounds cool :-)
Apr 12 14:27:21 <HaDAk> zoidburg: it's very cool.
Apr 12 14:27:29 <zoidburg> csc`: i have no mods at all at that veer
Apr 12 14:28:30 <zoidburg> HaDAk: i would exchange my veer without display and backcover for the zipit
Apr 12 14:28:32 <zoidburg> :-)
Apr 12 14:28:39 <HaDAk> deal!
Apr 12 14:28:46 <HaDAk> although, i think the zipit is slightly more useful ^^
Apr 12 14:28:48 <csc`> thats a horrible trade
Apr 12 14:28:52 <csc`> horrible!
Apr 12 14:29:01 <HaDAk> nah. zipit sits in a box.
Apr 12 14:29:10 <csc`> zipit is more useful by a longshot
Apr 12 14:29:16 <HaDAk> sure, if you use it.
Apr 12 14:29:17 <csc`> especially if the screen works and whatnot
Apr 12 14:29:18 <HaDAk> XD
Apr 12 14:29:21 <HaDAk> it works just fine
Apr 12 14:29:23 <csc`> HaDAk, how much do you want for it
Apr 12 14:29:35 <csc`> seriously. the guys at BSoD have a few
Apr 12 14:29:48 <HaDAk> csc`: er. a veer for it?
Apr 12 14:29:49 <HaDAk> lol
Apr 12 14:29:58 <csc`> why do you want a veer so badly?
Apr 12 14:30:11 <csc`> and one with a borked screen and no buttons
Apr 12 14:30:58 <HaDAk> because i've never had a veer. :)
Apr 12 14:31:20 <csc`> HaDAk, newegg. new, unlocked, working. 80 usd
Apr 12 14:31:23 <csc`> gsm.
Apr 12 14:31:37 <csc`> :P
Apr 12 14:31:39 <HaDAk> :P
Apr 12 14:31:45 <HaDAk> that costs money
Apr 12 14:31:55 <csc`> its white
Apr 12 14:32:19 <csc`> http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16875101042
Apr 12 14:32:22 <csc`> pandaveer?
Apr 12 14:34:24 <HaDAk> it's pretty
Apr 12 14:38:47 <csc`> only reason i'd want a veer is for size, tbh
Apr 12 14:39:01 <csc`> the core sucks
Apr 12 14:40:47 <HaDAk> i just want one of every webos device
Apr 12 14:40:48 <HaDAk> X_x
Apr 12 14:42:10 <zoidburg> :-)
Apr 12 14:42:43 <csc`> atleast have ones that aren't borked :|
Apr 12 14:43:01 <HaDAk> i'm sure it can be fixed.
Apr 12 14:43:12 <csc`> probably not worth it
Apr 12 14:43:38 <csc`> and if it isnt in devmode, its useless imho
Apr 12 14:43:56 <csc`> atleast if it were in devmode you could force it into DFU
Apr 12 14:45:16 <zoidburg> the zipit reminds me of my hp ipaqs i have :-)
Apr 12 14:45:30 <csc`> its a decent device if you know what to do with it
Apr 12 14:45:40 <csc`> if you don't the thing is pretty lame
Apr 12 14:46:34 <HaDAk> zoidburg: does the screen have a display, and the digitizer isn't working?
Apr 12 14:47:12 <zoidburg> the touchscreen is borked... the glass is borken so its pretty useless
Apr 12 14:47:21 * csc` wins
Apr 12 14:47:26 <HaDAk> bummer.
Apr 12 14:54:02 <zoidburg> csc`: do you have a usb cable for a veer
Apr 12 14:54:03 <zoidburg> ?
Apr 12 14:54:07 <zoidburg> and a diode tester
Apr 12 14:54:17 <csc`> usb cable, i have plenty
Apr 12 14:54:23 <csc`> diode tester, no.
Apr 12 14:54:25 <csc`> i have no tools
Apr 12 14:54:55 <csc`> thank you for reminding me to put the electrical tape i borrowed in my pocket to bring back to work though
Apr 12 14:54:57 <csc`> i had a dream i forgot to bring it
Apr 12 14:55:32 <zoidburg> lol
Apr 12 14:55:38 <csc`> no joke
Apr 12 14:55:42 <zoidburg> nice
Apr 12 14:56:10 <zoidburg> its so annoying that anybody has a picture online where you can look which pins are doing what
Apr 12 14:56:19 <csc`> for what?
Apr 12 14:56:30 <csc`> a veer lcd or digitizer module?
Apr 12 14:58:06 <zoidburg> a veer
Apr 12 14:58:15 <zoidburg> i have this veer but no usb cable
Apr 12 14:58:38 <csc`> its a microusb cable
Apr 12 14:58:42 <csc`> afaik anyway
Apr 12 14:58:47 <zoidburg> no
Apr 12 14:59:00 <csc`> why would the veer use a different cable?
Apr 12 14:59:06 <zoidburg> lol its this magnet proprietary thing
Apr 12 14:59:09 <zoidburg> because
Apr 12 15:00:00 <csc`> 3.5mm jack, microUSB v2.0
Apr 12 15:00:16 <csc`> you were saying what now?
Apr 12 15:00:23 <csc`> have you tried a regular microusb cable?
Apr 12 15:00:26 <csc`> at all?
Apr 12 15:00:41 <zoidburg> how?
Apr 12 15:01:20 <zoidburg> http://www.webos-blog.de/wp-content/uploads/2011/02/wpid-veer-connector-3.jpeg this is the connector
Apr 12 15:01:34 <zoidburg> you can't just plug a microusb cable in there
Apr 12 15:01:37 <zoidburg> impossible
Apr 12 15:01:57 <zoidburg> its 5 pins for usb and audio
Apr 12 15:02:38 <csc`> yes i see
Apr 12 15:02:49 <csc`> but its a standard microusb pinout, probably.
Apr 12 15:05:45 <csc`> if i had a veer, which now i may get because of this bastard connector, i could probably decipher the pinouts
Apr 12 15:06:24 <csc`> four should be for usb, one should be for audio, unless two are for audio and three are for usb
Apr 12 15:06:40 <csc`> but typically usb has two data and two power
Apr 12 15:06:45 <csc`> negative and positive
Apr 12 15:07:21 <csc`> anyway. work. laters.
Apr 12 17:36:03 <zoidburg_> csc`: usb is power gnd and 2 data but audio usually needs gnd and minimum 2 data pins
Apr 12 17:41:17 <zoidburg> i'm back
Apr 12 20:02:05 <zoidburg> still nobody with a veer cable and a ohm meter?
Apr 12 20:28:01 <zoidburg> good night
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