**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Mon Jul 22 02:59:58 2013 Jul 22 03:19:14 2.2.4 is without the chip update I hope? Jul 22 03:19:38 (for the veer) Jul 22 03:27:23 me? Jul 22 03:48:04 2.2.4 for Veer is with chip update but using Doctor so far hasn't bricked any devices Jul 22 04:08:50 the app cat problem still exists Jul 22 04:08:54 PALM PROFILES!!!!!!!!!! Jul 22 12:28:58 hi, I am wondering if I install webos on a raspberry pi, if it's possible to have its browser play videos using the openmax hardware Jul 22 12:30:55 hi nb-ben Jul 22 12:31:09 hi there :p Jul 22 12:31:10 i don't believe anybody has ported to the rpi hardware yet Jul 22 12:31:29 if you manage to get nyx plugins working for it, please share :) Jul 22 12:31:30 it is ported as a layer of openembedded Jul 22 12:32:16 Nyx is what I need for OpenMAX? Jul 22 12:32:49 nyx is the hardware abstraction layer. http://www.openwebosproject.org/docs/developer_guide/ppl/ Jul 22 12:33:11 nb-ben: but just a oe machine for it does not mean webos does run well on it or at all Jul 22 12:33:13 http://webos-ports.org/wiki/Raspberry_Pi Jul 22 12:33:28 stefan_schmidt_w, that's true Jul 22 12:33:32 nb-ben: There is always quite some things to figure out for specific hardware Jul 22 12:33:38 oe machine is just a first step Jul 22 12:33:39 I believe it would run, but probably not as well as it could Jul 22 12:33:49 it looks like it was attempted, but there were too many problems with QT4. once QT5 is working, it'll probably be fine Jul 22 12:33:54 however the only thing I need to work well is the use of the h.264 decoder Jul 22 12:34:07 nb-ben: You can only really make statements about that when having it run on the device Jul 22 12:34:07 http://www.raspberrypi.org/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=56&t=17080 Jul 22 12:34:13 they got it working there, but again…no gui Jul 22 12:34:23 It could all be compiled correctly but still not setup to run at all Jul 22 12:34:29 ah, I see Jul 22 12:34:35 like missing kernel features or nyx for example Jul 22 12:35:23 meh, not many options for this raspberry pi Jul 22 12:35:50 it appears that you simply cannot play hardware decoded h.264 videos in a web browser Jul 22 12:36:03 but this doesn't belong here :p Jul 22 12:36:08 nb-ben: So compile it for rpi and run it on the device should give you some more info Jul 22 12:36:20 nb-ben: i suppose that depends on the implementation of the browser. html5 video should be hardware accel'd. Jul 22 12:37:09 HaDAk, well, in most system it is hardware accelerated given you have the driver for your GPU.. however in Raspberry Pi things are a little different, they use something called OpenMAX IL for video decoding Jul 22 12:37:46 nb-ben: you already know more than me, in regards to embedded hardware acceleration, it would appear Jul 22 12:38:29 hard to evaluate :p perhaps that's just something I know to say Jul 22 12:39:55 i'm just uncomfortable dealing with embedded systems, yet. Jul 22 12:41:30 until a week ago I had no idea Jul 22 12:41:48 i've been dealing with them a while, but there are still a lot of unknowns for me. Jul 22 12:41:52 it looked like some arcane magic that you have a custom operating system on an embedded device Jul 22 12:41:53 like, the boot process, for example Jul 22 12:41:59 +1 that Jul 22 12:42:25 HaDAk, that's all the same for every computer device Jul 22 12:42:33 you'd think so Jul 22 12:47:15 I wish my employer just bought the more expensive ARMv7 devices instead of those Raspberries Jul 22 12:47:25 then I could have just installed android and be happy Jul 22 12:48:04 * HaDAk hisses Jul 22 12:48:11 webos is fantastic. :P Jul 22 14:06:07 hi Jul 22 14:15:01 does anyone have app cat issues? Jul 22 14:15:46 when i dont have wifi :) Jul 22 14:32:42 Amish: still haven't figured that out, eh? :( Jul 22 14:38:51 let's just give him our app catalogs Jul 22 14:39:03 aka the application files Jul 22 14:39:20 i'm not sure if my touchpad is on the wifi at home, or if i can shell into it Jul 22 14:39:23 it should be online Jul 22 14:39:34 he's on a veer Jul 22 14:39:37 as you know Jul 22 14:39:39 well Jul 22 14:39:42 true. Jul 22 14:39:47 and it's a different appcat Jul 22 14:39:49 hum Jul 22 14:39:57 i gave him the apk (ipk?) Jul 22 14:39:58 i have a veer i can pull it off of Jul 22 14:40:06 :) Jul 22 14:40:15 the issue, i'm certain, is geophysical Jul 22 14:40:18 i'm glad i saved it and Jul 22 14:40:31 then we edit the source! Jul 22 14:44:53 why palm why.... Jul 22 14:47:15 :p Jul 22 14:50:20 Amish, it doesn't look like there's any pipe character on veer keyboards Jul 22 14:50:32 wich means no ipkg --help Jul 22 14:51:09 wterm has no symbol key allowed except for control Jul 22 14:53:51 and my randomly timed luna restart comes in... handy... not Jul 22 14:54:10 honestly i feels like a palm profile problem Jul 22 14:56:53 you can use impostah to change your email adress for the palm profile Jul 22 14:57:11 not password for security reasons Jul 22 14:59:11 why do I need to change the email? Jul 22 14:59:15 i have an idea Jul 22 14:59:19 idk Jul 22 14:59:25 can you try using my palm profile and see if it works? Jul 22 14:59:28 i can pm it to you Jul 22 14:59:31 ok Jul 22 14:59:32 im really curious Jul 22 14:59:47 how do i dm Jul 22 14:59:56 click on my name Jul 22 15:00:11 or do /msg baboo Jul 22 15:01:22 now we will see if it is a veer issue Jul 22 15:01:29 or palm profile issue Jul 22 15:01:53 this bug should be apothekered Jul 22 15:02:00 can we make apotheker a verb Jul 22 15:03:02 i think it already is Jul 22 15:04:48 Sure it is. Apotheker a company means to run it down Jul 22 15:05:12 Using it for all kind of other things might be more tricky Jul 22 15:05:16 but possible :) Jul 22 15:07:52 Apotheker: (v.) to ignorantly destroy something with potential Jul 22 15:08:29 Do we have a bot around to pick that up? Jul 22 15:08:54 I don't think I parked one in here Jul 22 15:09:28 I think thats Verb Intransigent Jul 22 15:10:22 I actually had to translate that. Never been in my vocabulary. :) Jul 22 15:11:10 don't worry. it's my language ,and i had to look it up too Jul 22 15:11:24 heh Jul 22 15:13:48 its supposed to be intransitive Jul 22 15:14:05 but in Apotheker its intransigent Jul 22 15:16:25 :) Jul 22 15:21:48 why did you apotheker my lasagna? Jul 22 15:23:32 why did hp have to apotheker the 20 Touchpad Gos by running them over with a truck? Jul 22 15:23:40 :( Jul 22 15:24:53 i played with one the other day Jul 22 15:24:57 it felt really nice. Jul 22 15:25:03 yep Jul 22 15:26:00 it would have had the Kindle Fire's hit Jul 22 15:26:10 baboo does my profile work? Jul 22 15:26:32 i don't see any way to get it on there Jul 22 15:26:43 i may need a new emulator Jul 22 15:26:47 :p Jul 22 15:30:41 noooooo Jul 22 15:30:51 hadak do you want to test my palm profile? Jul 22 15:31:06 i don't have any devices present, aside from the emulator Jul 22 15:34:58 going to my friend's house Jul 22 15:52:18 bye Jul 22 15:52:26 gotta go apotheker something Jul 22 17:13:48 https://twitter.com/fxspec06/status/359360510732812288 Jul 22 17:16:27 fx1, did you get the new appcat app? Jul 22 17:16:55 that's my pre+ on 1.4.5.. that only happens when you go to view "my apps" or click "show updates" from the updates app Jul 22 17:17:11 and yeah, the update app installed okay Jul 22 17:17:24 it says it did anyways. heh Jul 22 17:17:43 some other guy says he gets the same thing on his pixi 1.4.5 Jul 22 17:17:56 oh, 1.4.5 is different Jul 22 17:18:02 yeah Jul 22 17:18:08 and there is an issue there Jul 22 17:18:09 idk if there's a way to fix it Jul 22 17:18:12 is that what amish has? Jul 22 17:18:24 idk Jul 22 17:18:40 https://twitter.com/Epowerj/status/359149579234578432 Jul 22 17:19:03 idk how recent this problem is, i only just started playing w/ my pre+ again Jul 22 17:19:17 quickly i'm wanting to put it down though lol **** ENDING LOGGING AT Tue Jul 23 02:59:58 2013