**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Sun Aug 18 02:59:58 2013 Aug 18 18:10:19 so .. the webOS SDK links on developer.palm.com were pulled. suggestions where I can go grab the last version? Aug 18 18:10:32 no clue Aug 18 18:10:40 i may have copies locally but there's no way in hell i can upload them Aug 18 18:11:10 yea, i can likely grovel thru backups, but traveling at the moment. Aug 18 18:11:38 api my app uses broke something, need to build a fixed version. Aug 18 18:26:03 on the webosnatoin forum in the developer area there is a thread that has the links Aug 18 18:26:13 the files are still there, only the page linking to them is gone Aug 18 18:26:47 rwatkins: you are doing an update for paper mache? :) Aug 18 18:27:30 there are the links: http://forums.webosnation.com/webos-development/325645-looks-like-you-cant-get-sdk-anymore-almost.html Aug 18 19:09:05 woot, thx Aug 18 19:09:17 yea, need to update paper mache Aug 18 19:10:13 nothing exciting this round, just making it un-broken. Aug 18 19:10:55 but have been working on a rewrite in 2.0, likely for FirefoxOS and Android. Aug 18 19:11:41 If it's in 2.0 should be able to run it on webOS too :) Aug 18 19:11:56 2.0 apps run a lot quicker compared to 1.0 apps on my legacy webOS devices ;) Aug 18 19:13:17 *should* being the operative word. i'm not likely to dig out all those devices and work out all the actual bugs when 1.x works well. Aug 18 19:15:41 I have like ~10 daily users on webOS for Paper Mache at this point. Aug 18 19:16:20 and given *nobody* contacted my it broke last week .... Aug 18 19:30:12 Hmmz that's said but understandable seeing no new hardware is out there :( Aug 18 19:31:12 said = sad Aug 18 19:42:28 ? Aug 18 19:42:55 what they should really do is enlist the best and brightest of webos's community to develop a new device Aug 18 19:43:09 and make-to-order them Aug 18 19:43:39 HP still owns webOS, but LG owns oWos, right? or does LG own the entire thing Aug 18 19:46:43 rwatkins: I'm using it regularly on a Veer and a TP. Did not contact you, because I thought you wouldn't care. :( Aug 18 19:48:01 im guessing paper mache is for above 1.4.x? Aug 18 19:48:28 I think so. AFAIK it uses the database service from 2.x. Aug 18 19:49:16 im afraid to do anything to my pre+ without a custom recovery image now Aug 18 20:07:31 dunno if it sent or not but does anyone know if the doctors were updated with the new root cert? Aug 18 20:08:24 don't think so... there was a HP webpage that told people to manually set the date before july 2013, activate and do the app cat update. Aug 18 20:09:52 well yeah Aug 18 20:10:10 but how are we supposed to doctor our devices if we can't sync with the palm servers due to the root cert? Aug 18 20:10:20 besides bypassing activation Aug 18 20:13:30 The doctor itself does not need to talk to palm server..? Aug 18 20:13:59 activation needs to talk to the server. Aug 18 20:16:24 yes Aug 18 20:16:34 and if the certificate is installed via the doctoring process.... Aug 18 20:16:39 it's the wrong certificate Aug 18 20:16:46 and you cannot activate Aug 18 21:42:55 wow, hadnt logged into the dev portal in a while. still runs. Aug 18 21:43:41 83990 total downloads for one day last week, zero today. suspect data. Aug 18 21:43:56 slow, slow decay. **** ENDING LOGGING AT Mon Aug 19 02:59:59 2013