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Nov 07 16:49:57 <cavemailman> Anyone awake in here?
Nov 07 16:51:23 <cavemailman> I'm trying to figure out if I can get my Pixi to grab internet from my Android phone over BT? No luck in finding this info online yet.
Nov 07 16:57:46 <HaDAk> uh
Nov 07 16:57:56 <HaDAk> hmm
Nov 07 16:58:03 <HaDAk> i don't think you can, over bluetooth.
Nov 07 16:58:05 <HaDAk> wifi, sure.
Nov 07 16:58:11 <HaDAk> but i don't think it can do it over bluetooth.
Nov 07 17:04:36 <cavemailman> Yeah most of the development seems to be with traffic going the other way. I can't be the only guy that would find this useful.
Nov 07 17:05:12 <cavemailman> If only there was PDAnet for WebOS.
Nov 07 17:14:22 <HaDAk> you should pop into #webos-ports and ask them to add it to the suggestion list as we re-write webos from the ground up
Nov 07 17:46:07 <cavemailman> Ports looks like a different idea than what I was hoping for. But I checked it out and it did remind me that I never donated so I gave a few shekels. I really think that there is a possibility to extend the life of WebOS as a secondary device. The port process seems cool but I don't think I could ever go back to WebOS as my main platform; even with
Nov 07 17:46:07 <cavemailman>  Windows Phone 8 the developer support isn't enough that I can make it my primary.
Nov 07 17:47:48 <HaDAk> sure, i hear that.
Nov 07 17:48:00 <cavemailman> Even if someone made the Pixi work as a handsfree headset I think it would be popular. If everyone has 5" phones a smaller device makes sense for holding to your ear.
Nov 07 17:48:02 <HaDAk> we're doing a lot of work. once we get it stable, we can start talking an app/dev ecosystem again
Nov 07 17:48:57 <cavemailman> Well I hope that you are getting some help from LG, although I never heard of them as developer friendly.
Nov 07 17:48:58 <HaDAk> the donation is appreciated. (i don't get a dime. all my time is donation based)
Nov 07 17:49:09 <HaDAk> LG is a bit busy with their own stuff.
Nov 07 17:49:19 <HaDAk> so, not. we're not, right now.
Nov 07 17:50:00 <oc80z> morning
Nov 07 17:50:59 <HaDAk> hey oc80z
Nov 07 20:34:00 <oc80z> whats new?
Nov 07 20:34:14 <oc80z> where is rwhitby :(
Nov 07 20:34:33 <oc80z> aah hes in internals :D
Nov 07 20:34:40 <oc80z> neat.
Nov 07 20:34:43 <oc80z> whats new here?
Nov 07 22:28:54 <HaDAk> hey oc80z. what's up?
Nov 07 23:17:22 <cavemailman> Okay so I've made a small amount of progress with the Bluetooth PAN. It isn't on the AT&T Pixi Plus but is on the Verizon Pixi Plus. Thankfully I have one of each :) So far I have my Nexus 7 broadcasting Bluetooth Tether and it is paired to my Verizon Pixi but I can't get the connection active. It seems that if I mess with the shell/terminal I can
Nov 07 23:17:23 <cavemailman> accomplish this but I am completely unfamiliar with using it. Any advice on where to learn how to use WebOS shell/terminal or whatever it is? I understand I can't get it fixed immediately but any direction towards what I should learn would be appreciated.
Nov 07 23:18:07 <HaDAk> well, webos is linux.
Nov 07 23:18:38 <HaDAk> you *probably* just need to `echo "1" > /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward`
Nov 07 23:18:44 <HaDAk> buuuuuuuuut i don't know. i don't have one to teset.
Nov 07 23:18:46 <HaDAk> -e
Nov 07 23:22:52 <cavemailman> Okay. So can I do that on device, or do I need to SSH in?
Nov 07 23:24:25 <cavemailman> Oops nevermind. Now I am on the right track. Thanks for your help and patience.
Nov 07 23:28:31 <cavemailman> Sorry I'm in way over my head. Linux is completely foreign to me so I'm trying to learn everything from square one. I was hoping for some shortcuts but considering my specific use case it was a long shot. I'm looking at dummies guides now.
Nov 07 23:31:49 <HaDAk> :)
Nov 07 23:32:11 <HaDAk> http://www.webos-internals.org/wiki/Ip_forward
Nov 07 23:32:45 <HaDAk> http://downloadsquad.switched.com/2011/01/06/enable-tethering-on-your-palm-pre-or-pixi-with-freetether/
Nov 07 23:32:53 <HaDAk> i think freetether has a switch for it
Nov 07 23:33:00 <HaDAk> http://www.webos-internals.org/wiki/Application:FreeTether
Nov 08 00:47:58 <cavemailman> Well crap I forgot about this. http://www.theverge.com/2013/6/6/4402404/update-or-die-hp-issuing-mandatory-patch-to-save-webos-device-services  Now I have to deal with another hiccup. Is there a place where the Palm App Catalog has been duplicated?
Nov 08 01:24:47 <HaDAk> just roll back the time on your device and do the update
Nov 08 01:28:41 <cavemailman> It won't let me sign in even after I roll back the time. I was assuming that the App Catalog was finally taken offline.
Nov 08 01:29:59 <cavemailman> It just says "Signing in..."
Nov 08 01:30:24 <cavemailman> Okay that's my luck; it works once I ask you about it.
Nov 08 01:30:27 <HaDAk> my touchpad is able to view the app catalog
Nov 08 01:30:29 <HaDAk> :)
Nov 08 01:31:46 <cavemailman> Is there a time-frame that is known for how long Palm Profiles and App Catalog will still be around?
Nov 08 01:31:56 <HaDAk> no idea.
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