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Jan 25 12:45:49 <Flexman> Herrie: great, i did it! :)
Jan 25 12:56:23 <Herrie> Flexman: Good :)
Jan 25 12:57:22 <Flexman> shame they discontinued it... the pre is such a nice device
Jan 25 12:57:37 <Flexman> but one major problem in webos is the thing with the certificates...
Jan 25 12:57:48 <Herrie> Flexman: There's a solution for that too ;)
Jan 25 12:58:15 <Flexman> i would have to import the certificate of my mailprovider manually - which is complicated
Jan 25 12:58:25 <Herrie> There's another
Jan 25 12:58:25 <Flexman> the result is tha i used mail without ssl, which is even worse.
Jan 25 12:58:43 <Herrie> Let me link it for you
Jan 25 12:58:45 <Flexman> yes. but i wonder who thinks that it is better not using ssl than easily importing a certificate...
Jan 25 12:59:39 <Herrie> Flexman: It's OpenSSL layer that needs updating: 1. get WebOSQuickInstall (your device needs to be in dev mode).
Jan 25 12:59:51 <Herrie> 2: Go to command line and follow http://www.webos-internals.org/wiki/Testing_Feeds to enable the Preware ALPHA feeds
Jan 25 12:59:58 <Herrie> 3. Install Preware
Jan 25 13:00:24 <Herrie> Then you should be able to find: http://forums.webosnation.com/webos-internals/330666-openssl-updater-fixing-certificate-issues.html
Jan 25 13:00:43 <Herrie> That will pretty much solve your certificate problems. I did for my GMail and other email providers :)
Jan 25 13:01:00 <Herrie> It's alpha so at your own risk, but it worked well for many
Jan 25 13:01:35 <Flexman> ok thanks
Jan 25 13:01:36 <Herrie> If you already have Preware installed, you'd need to uninstall it first ;)
Jan 25 13:01:46 <Herrie> At least you can go SSL ;)
Jan 25 13:01:50 <Flexman> it's not so easy to find all the links. there are so many links that are not working anymore...
Jan 25 13:02:15 <Flexman> for now i'd be fine if i could change my background but i guess i can do this with preware
Jan 25 13:02:20 <Flexman> no, i just did a fresh reset
Jan 25 13:05:12 <Flexman> still i have that ugly color set i used before
Jan 25 13:05:12 <Flexman> but i'll install preware then
Jan 25 13:05:51 <Herrie> Yeah you just need to make sure you have the feeds enabled before ;)
Jan 25 13:06:00 <Herrie> Otherwise you cannot use alpha/beta feeds
Jan 25 13:06:21 <Herrie> P.s. I'm part of WebOS Ports and we're bringing webOS branded as LuneOS to newer devices ;)
Jan 25 13:06:43 <Herrie> Still lots of ground to cover but getting there slowly ;) FIrst calls were made last week :D
Jan 25 13:13:06 <Flexman> oh wow
Jan 25 13:13:46 <Flexman> would be definately worth trying
Jan 25 13:15:01 <Flexman> well since i prefer keyboard phones i bought a blackberry with BB10. i'm ok with it, far better than android devices where keyboards - if they exist at all - are not very well integrated into the system
Jan 25 13:15:50 <Flexman> but i always appreciate it if there are more systems... some friends have a Jolla with Sailfish OS, so i'll hope the best for Lune OS
Jan 25 13:16:09 <Flexman> maybe we could port our app there... dies it work with QT?
Jan 25 13:18:22 <Herrie> Yeah we do quite some QT and QML :D
Jan 25 13:18:33 <Herrie> Our browser is QML and uses QtWebEngine for example
Jan 25 13:18:39 <Herrie> So all very new technology
Jan 25 13:18:44 <Herrie> I like keyboards myself too :P
Jan 25 13:18:48 <Herrie> Still on a Veer ;_
Jan 25 13:18:50 <Herrie> ;)
Jan 25 13:21:41 <Flexman> great :)
Jan 25 13:22:02 <Flexman> but will there be keyboard devices for lune os?
Jan 25 13:22:54 <Flexman> there are not many keyboard devices at all... :( the android phones are outdated (HTC Chacha etc.), the Blackberrys not open for other systems. The Jolla keyboard sold out.
Jan 25 13:23:48 <Flexman> but would be great to have lune OS on other devices too... btw, i have a HP Touchpad too
Jan 25 13:24:13 <Flexman> a always liked Palm OS and it's great sync function
Jan 25 13:24:32 <Flexman> had a Treo 600 and GSL Xplore G18
Jan 25 14:07:56 <Flexman> Herrie: wikipedia says "All devices can have a LuneOS port if they have a CyanogenMod rom available and that works"
Jan 25 14:08:41 <Flexman> sure this is valid for arm v6?
Jan 25 18:11:53 <Herrie> Flexman: Armv6 is difficult
Jan 25 18:11:57 <Herrie> WE'd need enough RAM
Jan 25 18:12:01 <Herrie> 1GB preferably
Jan 25 18:13:16 <Flexman> oh
Jan 25 18:13:50 <Flexman> well the HTC chacha has 512 MB only and also it's screen is 90° rotated (e.g. 16:9, not 9:16)
Jan 25 18:36:30 <Herrie> Flexman: Good question, we haven't tried 512MB ones
Jan 25 18:37:56 <Flexman> an also with the horizontal screen
Jan 25 18:38:41 <Flexman> mine has a broken touch screen but i could try if it's not too complicated. is it like doing a cyanogen rom on it?
Jan 25 18:38:42 <Herrie> That's not a problem
Jan 25 18:39:07 <Flexman> the question is how good the keyboard will work
Jan 25 18:40:21 <Flexman> Herrie: but that's interested because Open WebOS only was available from v7 on, wasn't it?
Jan 25 18:40:27 <Flexman> ..interesting..
Jan 25 18:42:02 <Herrie> Not sure, we have many components frm Open webOS but also we replaced quite some
Jan 25 18:42:12 <Herrie> Raspberry Pi 2 is Armv7?
Jan 25 18:50:51 <Herrie> The new BB devices would be nice but well they're completely locked down
Jan 25 18:55:03 <Flexman> yep unfortunately :(
Jan 25 18:55:34 <Flexman> i could try on my chacha, but if there is not much space and you're not sure about v6 it might be complicated
Jan 25 19:27:12 <Herrie|Laptop> Flexman: Yeah 512MB is on the edge quite sure
Jan 25 19:27:26 <Herrie|Laptop> On the Samsung Galaxy Nexus it's already not that quick
Jan 25 19:27:33 <Herrie|Laptop> On the HP Touchpad it's OK
Jan 25 19:27:40 <Herrie|Laptop> On the Nexus 4 it flies ;)
Jan 25 19:27:49 <Herrie|Laptop> I'm curious what it does on new devices
Jan 25 19:27:56 <Herrie|Laptop> Too bad nobody makes QWERTY anymore
Jan 25 20:15:04 <Flexman> yep
Jan 25 20:15:10 <Flexman> ah ok it works on the touchpad
Jan 25 20:15:11 <Flexman> hm
Jan 25 20:15:34 <Flexman> say is there an appstore or where should i put my app?
Jan 25 20:16:52 <Herrie|Laptop> Flexman: We support legacy Enyo 1 and Enyo 2 apps, besides QML/QT stuff ;)
Jan 25 20:16:58 <Herrie|Laptop> We have Preware ;)
Jan 25 20:17:05 <Herrie|Laptop> So legacy feeds can be run in there as well
Jan 25 20:17:23 <Herrie|Laptop> Unfortunately Mojo wasn't open sourced, so we currently don't support it.
Jan 25 20:17:35 <Herrie|Laptop> But when someone wants to hack it onto QtWebEngine they're free to do so :P
Jan 25 20:18:05 <Flexman> we do a QT app for android, but it should be possible to port it to other platforms too
Jan 25 20:18:37 <Flexman> but this means i've to offer it for preware if we really can convert it
Jan 25 20:20:07 <Herrie|Laptop> Flexman: Yeah
Jan 25 20:20:16 <Herrie|Laptop> The guys at PivotCE also run an appfeed ;)
Jan 25 20:20:30 <Herrie|Laptop> They have a Telegram app there which is LuneOS only
Jan 25 20:54:44 <Flexman> Herrie|Laptop: enyo is phonegap??
Jan 25 20:55:04 <Flexman> but QT would be a native app then
Jan 25 20:59:14 <Herrie|Laptop> Flexman: No phonegap is basically a device independent layer that "speaks" specific OS API
Jan 25 20:59:22 <Herrie|Laptop> You can use phonegap with enyo
Jan 25 20:59:32 <Herrie|Laptop> We can do native QT (C++) and QML
Jan 25 22:57:23 <dwc-> the last 2 days of talking may have just equaled the last couple of years
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