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Jul 24 10:47:03 <novaldex> mazzinia: still having issues with battery drain on your Pre3? I had some recently, my own fault with a badly configured C+Dav setup that meant it could drain in minutes from a full charge
Jul 24 10:47:15 <novaldex> not sure how related to yours it might be though..
Jul 24 12:39:33 <nuclearkev> hi
Jul 24 15:23:50 <bughi1980> hello
Jul 24 15:24:01 <nuclearkev> hi bughi1980
Jul 24 15:24:22 <bughi1980> @novaldex , no, no further quirks apparently.
Jul 24 15:24:33 <bughi1980> hello :) how are you doing ?
Jul 24 15:24:52 <nuclearkev> I'm well, and you?
Jul 24 15:27:28 <bughi1980> meh... depends. not finding ( long search by now ) a bargain pc , the sgi fuel is having issues, and a power mac g5 I spotted is going to be not practical to collect
Jul 24 15:31:03 <nuclearkev> Hmm, what is the new machine for?
Jul 24 15:33:06 <bughi1980> general purpose. I'm hunting for a dual xeon E5 ideally v2
Jul 24 15:33:36 <bughi1980> workstation setup
Jul 24 15:35:10 <bughi1980> installed the new browser ?
Jul 24 15:35:53 <nuclearkev> Hmm, I see
Jul 24 15:36:06 <nuclearkev> I tend to use very old hardware.
Jul 24 15:43:39 <bughi1980> :P well, that makes 2 of us
Jul 24 15:44:19 <bughi1980> but those xeons are 2013, so we could consider it old :P
Jul 24 15:45:54 <nuclearkev> Yeah, true
Jul 24 15:46:07 <nuclearkev> I guess most of my stuff is from 2011-2013
Jul 24 15:46:14 <nuclearkev> "old" in computer years
Jul 24 15:46:51 <bughi1980> yep, even if not "very" old. I guess you share the "if it works, why changing"
Jul 24 15:51:24 <nuclearkev> Yes, exactly
Jul 24 15:51:45 <nuclearkev> Although, I started using legacy webOS in 2018 :P
Jul 24 15:51:52 <nuclearkev> I went back in time!
Jul 24 15:52:07 <bughi1980> ahah
Jul 24 15:52:58 <nuclearkev> I've always wanted to use webOS but never had the chance until my iPhone broke. I didn't feel like buying a new one and I had a Pre 3 that I bought back in 2013 just for hacks
Jul 24 15:53:05 <nuclearkev> So I said, "now is the time..."
Jul 24 15:53:21 <nuclearkev> and my life has been changed in ways I can't even begin to describe
Jul 24 15:53:24 <nuclearkev> :P
Jul 24 15:54:45 <bughi1980> eheheheheheh
Jul 24 15:55:24 <bughi1980> if you put the new browser, you should be able to use skype etc on the pre3
Jul 24 15:55:52 <bughi1980> ( but I think bookmarks don't work, or require some trick that i've not understood )
Jul 24 15:59:40 <nuclearkev> do you mean the qt browser?
Jul 24 15:59:40 <nuclearkev>  
Jul 24 16:06:31 <bughi1980> yes, I mean that
Jul 24 16:19:29 <nuclearkev> Yeah, I just installed it the other day
Jul 24 16:19:37 <nuclearkev> Works pretty well. But needs some work!
Jul 24 16:26:49 <bughi1980> ah that yes, all in all is the very first version
Jul 24 16:27:21 <bughi1980> qupzilla at the moment is superior, but I would not try that one on the phone
Jul 24 16:27:32 <bughi1980> it's heavier
Jul 24 17:06:11 <nuclearkev> I'm back
Jul 24 17:32:09 <nuclearkev> hi dkirker
Jul 24 17:41:47 <bughi1980> wb
Jul 24 17:50:33 <nuclearkev> thanks bughi1980
Jul 24 17:50:38 <nuclearkev> What devices do you use?
Jul 24 18:08:08 <bughi1980> webos or in general ?
Jul 24 18:17:31 <nuclearkev> both
Jul 24 18:17:32 <nuclearkev> !
Jul 24 18:20:55 <bughi1980> mmm , webos ... the pre3 and a go
Jul 24 18:22:36 <bughi1980> in general, 2 digital alpha personal workstations 500/au , an hp C8000 parisc, an sgi o2, an sgi fuel (not working after just some days), an as/400 portable, and some normal pc I kept
Jul 24 18:23:04 <nuclearkev> What is a go?
Jul 24 18:23:11 <nuclearkev> HP TouchPad GO?
Jul 24 18:23:23 <bughi1980> yep, that one
Jul 24 18:24:18 <nuclearkev> Nice!
Jul 24 18:24:23 <nuclearkev> I just have a regular TP
Jul 24 18:24:52 <bughi1980> a general tp offers some advantages ( lune / android )
Jul 24 18:25:08 <bughi1980> and more storage options
Jul 24 18:29:35 <nuclearkev> Hmm
Jul 24 18:29:45 <nuclearkev> can you dual-boot lune + legacy webOS?
Jul 24 18:29:52 <nuclearkev> I imagine you can
Jul 24 18:30:18 <bughi1980> yes, you can even triple boot
Jul 24 18:30:34 <bughi1980> ( assuming enough space )
Jul 24 18:30:34 <nuclearkev> :p
Jul 24 18:30:45 <nuclearkev> I just would want legacy and lune
Jul 24 18:30:49 <nuclearkev> I don't need that android thing
Jul 24 18:30:57 <bughi1980> there are instructions on the forum
Jul 24 18:31:26 <nuclearkev> I love the forum
Jul 24 18:31:59 <bughi1980> it's quite sleepy now, there are rarely posts
Jul 24 18:32:40 <nuclearkev> Yeah, true.
Jul 24 18:32:59 <nuclearkev> Do you think it's because the community is slowly dying out?
Jul 24 18:33:49 <bughi1980> well... it's in part linked to news
Jul 24 18:34:20 <bughi1980> but I guess that there are less active users now vs 1y ago
Jul 24 18:37:40 <nuclearkev> Hmm, I see
Jul 24 18:37:51 <nuclearkev> I don't think that TCL will do anything interesting
Jul 24 18:56:44 <bughi1980> I doubt they will, yes
Jul 24 18:57:16 <nuclearkev> Oh well!
Jul 24 19:40:55 <bughi1980> :P
Jul 24 19:45:35 <nuclearkev> I would totally die if they did release something Pre- or Pixi-like
Jul 24 19:46:12 <nomad84> or even veer
Jul 24 19:46:39 <nomad84> or just a generic slab with an updated os
Jul 24 19:46:52 <Herrie> Veer would kill me
Jul 24 19:46:57 <Herrie> I love the little size
Jul 24 19:47:01 <Herrie> Rocking a Veer again since a week
Jul 24 19:47:07 <Herrie> Forgot how small it was
Jul 24 19:47:10 <Herrie> Had a Pre3 for a while
Jul 24 19:48:42 <bughi1980> sadly small is not trendy
Jul 24 19:49:06 <bughi1980> there was a sharp borderless thing they sold in US 2 years ago, that one was quite small
Jul 24 19:49:11 <bughi1980> 4.2"
Jul 24 19:50:07 <nuclearkev> Hmmm
Jul 24 19:50:19 <nuclearkev> I really like the Pixi format, believe it or not
Jul 24 19:50:41 <nomad84> same here
Jul 24 19:50:46 <nuclearkev> I'm not a huge fan of the sliding
Jul 24 19:51:02 <nuclearkev> Don't get me wrong, I still love the Pre 3
Jul 24 19:52:00 <bughi1980> sliding is a potential point of failure, but on that kind of screen format, is a logical thing
Jul 24 19:52:11 <bughi1980> a virtual kb takes real estate
Jul 24 19:56:38 <nuclearkev> yeah true
Jul 24 19:56:47 <nuclearkev> That is one nice things about the sliding
Jul 24 19:57:51 <nomad84> I love both
Jul 24 19:58:49 <nuclearkev> I was surprised at how easily you can type of the Pixi keyboard
Jul 24 19:59:27 <Herrie> sliding cable tends to break after some time
Jul 24 19:59:39 <Herrie> I.e. 1,5 or 2 years of quite heavy usage
Jul 24 19:59:56 <nomad84> I used to have a french pixi, I couldn't get used to the AZERTY keyboard :D
Jul 24 20:00:41 <nuclearkev> Herrie: is that an easy fix?
Jul 24 20:00:50 <nuclearkev> Herrie: or is it something you have give up on?
Jul 24 20:01:00 <nuclearkev> nomad84: I don't think I could do that...
Jul 24 20:01:35 <nomad84> well, it's weird
Jul 24 20:02:42 <nuclearkev> nomad84: do you use a Pixi as a daily driver?
Jul 24 20:03:45 <nomad84> no, I've moved to iPhone many years ago and just recently purchased a pre3
Jul 24 20:04:12 <nuclearkev> ah, I see
Jul 24 20:04:39 <nomad84> but used to have a Pixi, Pre, TP, and a Veer
Jul 24 20:07:30 <nuclearkev> Nice
Jul 24 20:07:41 <nuclearkev> I've never used a Veer
Jul 24 20:08:11 <nomad84> it was a nice litte device
Jul 24 20:09:53 <nomad84> https://flic.kr/p/caCxQU
Jul 24 20:09:56 <nomad84> this guy
Jul 24 20:12:57 <nuclearkev> it is pretty cute
Jul 24 20:13:00 <nuclearkev> Nice size
Jul 24 20:13:10 <nuclearkev> I don't mind the pre 3 size
Jul 24 20:13:14 <nuclearkev> I like them all, really
Jul 24 20:13:24 <nuclearkev> Well folks, I'm off for now
Jul 24 20:13:27 <nuclearkev> Have a good night
Jul 24 20:13:32 <nomad84> you too
Jul 24 20:32:03 <bughi1980> night
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