**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Thu Sep 12 03:02:41 2019 Sep 12 12:46:30 bughi1980: Sumy will look at the thread this weekend and hopefully will help test the files for on-board help Sep 12 12:52:31 ah, he's "around" aka not on a business trip ? Sep 12 12:53:04 maybe I should consult with him about a weird behavior of the battery Sep 12 12:53:23 bughi1980: Which device & battery? Sep 12 12:53:28 pre3 Sep 12 12:53:50 it's a couple of months his battery is a bit weird Sep 12 12:54:42 first weird fact : put to charge, it doesn't stop at 100% but either goes over it and discharge, or directly discharges Sep 12 12:55:33 and 2nd thing, i've reached 0 a few times when I shouldn't have Sep 12 12:56:59 it's like the calibration went funny, but the really annoying part is the change in the charging behavior once full Sep 12 12:57:29 the first time it happened i went back to a flat phone since it went up to 100 and then discharged down to 0 Sep 12 13:08:41 Ah this is Sumy's custom battery? Sep 12 13:15:22 yup Sep 12 13:15:40 I'm using one since a few years Sep 12 13:16:23 Could just be cell degradation or a bad one ;) Sep 12 13:17:54 I thought about it, and after a while a bit of degradation is normal. nd in fact the max is lower , in theory, now Sep 12 13:18:10 but this would not explain the weird charge/discharge Sep 12 13:18:21 the chip is there to stop the charging Sep 12 13:18:40 but not only is not happening, the discharge gets triggered Sep 12 13:19:27 it's 1218 stock, and 1182 capacity left Sep 12 13:19:39 but now lot of times goes up to 1268 Sep 12 13:20:19 at the same time, the standby time before going flat is still 2 full days Sep 12 13:21:46 I got two. Had some overheat problems - not so much since Macaw stopped working! ;-) Normal charge / discharge otherwise and good life. Sep 12 13:22:34 I try to switch them weekly for equal wear Sep 12 13:23:27 mmm, I have oerheat issues always during august.. as soon as the temperature goes to 30, the battery on the stone goes always over 53 Sep 12 14:07:24 hope no issues if I vent a bit... again an auction that ended at an absurd price for a computer :( Sep 12 14:29:44 What kind of computer? Sep 12 14:41:28 an hp z620 Sep 12 14:41:49 it ended at 600 , with just v0 cpus ... Sep 12 14:42:22 I don't understand people bidding.. a lenovo p700 dual v3 is available at 700... Sep 12 14:45:59 it's some months I'm trying to find a good bargain for a dual xeon. everytime something goes wrong, including the time one had 4 v2 supermicro, and he decided to keep 3 instead of selling all. that was 178 euro Sep 12 15:30:30 bughi1980: They seem to sell for that price refurbished here already... Not even auctions :S Sep 12 15:33:21 you mean the v0, or the v3 ? Sep 12 15:34:05 The z620 dual xeon Sep 12 15:34:09 https://www.maascomputers.nl/68-hp-z620-workstation Sep 12 15:34:16 That's the first hit I found on go Sep 12 15:34:19 Google Sep 12 15:34:52 meh.... that's inflated, thanks also to the warranty Sep 12 15:35:48 put it differently.. that's 2012 hw , it's not worth that price Sep 12 15:36:26 Well I upgraded to a Threadripper beast late last year ;) Sep 12 15:36:27 with that money ( the 1k one ) I can find a buy it now for a z2 with a xeon silver Sep 12 15:36:45 But that costed me quite some as well :P Sep 12 15:37:01 yeh.. but that's current tech, so makes sense Sep 12 15:37:19 2990WX, 128GB memory, 1TB M.2 SSD, 10TB mirrored RAID ;) Sep 12 15:37:37 not bad at all. how many vms ? Sep 12 15:38:35 It's just for my Halium/LuneOS builder :D Sep 12 15:38:44 Build LuneOS from scratch in 50-55 minutes :D Sep 12 15:38:54 750/750 fiber helps there ;) Sep 12 15:40:41 lol... isn't that a "tad" excessive just for that ? :P Sep 12 15:42:02 but since we're on the topic, one I know that went to that road (threadripper) is not too happy Sep 12 15:42:29 he's doing AI and a lot of the frameworks prefer bigtime a xeon cpu Sep 12 15:42:44 he got plenty of handicaps Sep 12 15:44:09 Nothing is excessive to get quicker build times ;) Sep 12 15:44:13 But yes, a bit maybe ;) Sep 12 15:44:22 But it replaced my desktop & separate builder ;) Sep 12 15:44:29 So I went from 2 systems to 1 ;) Sep 12 15:44:40 Builder was 2010 hardware so needed replacement Sep 12 15:44:47 This should last me at least 5 years if not more ;) Sep 12 15:45:10 eheh. but I can understand the building speed... I still have nightmares since when I compiled a lot of things on hpux Sep 12 15:46:31 uhm.. in theory way more than 5 years Sep 12 15:47:11 the actual sw is a bit on the flat side, so that kind of hw should last you up to its life Sep 12 15:47:18 or anyway 10 years easily Sep 12 15:48:09 air or water ? ( cooling ) Sep 12 15:54:08 Just air, one of those very silent ones from Austria ;) Sep 12 15:54:33 Noctua ;) Sep 12 15:55:49 https://noctua.at/en/products/cpu-cooler-workstation-server/nh-u14s-tr4-sp3 Sep 12 16:05:37 ah yes, that's a good brand indeed Sep 12 16:38:59 Though on hot days with full load, I have similar issues as your Pre 3 ;) Sep 12 16:45:15 uhm... no options to add more cooling ? Sep 12 16:47:33 There is, just wanted to keep it quiet for now ;) Sep 12 16:47:40 And we don't have so many hot days as you probably ;) Sep 12 16:47:50 I can usually count them on 1-2 hands each year Sep 12 17:03:37 uhm... but in theory it should be possible to obtain quiet and at the same time lower temps, using air Sep 12 17:03:59 by example, if you fashion some zone separation causing air ducts... Sep 12 17:04:04 Yeah I could increase fan speeds etc Sep 12 17:04:14 Add some more case fans etc Sep 12 17:04:20 Need to check sometime Sep 12 17:04:40 I'm really more thinking about wind tunnels Sep 12 17:05:10 my dual cpus have 0 fans, is all a flow from "far" like in servers Sep 12 17:06:17 it's the only thing fujitsu made right. aside that, is a brand do avoid.. poor support / bios updates **** ENDING LOGGING AT Fri Sep 13 02:59:57 2019