**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Mon Aug 22 02:59:56 2011 Aug 22 16:17:15 . Aug 22 16:38:55 .?! Aug 22 17:56:23 .. Aug 22 18:56:36 dtzWill: I checked the version value in the makefile it is up today. is there a specific command I need to use for it to pull the latest Xserver stuff from git? I know I could probably just manually clone it into the cross compile xserver folder but I figured that was already build into the whole make proccess. Aug 22 18:56:52 up-to-date* Aug 22 23:36:02 I had a question on Makefiles from http://git.webos-internals.org/preware/build/apps. To mimic how the other Makefiles work, I'd have to check in a 6 MB binary to my git project. Is there an alternative? Aug 22 23:37:59 im no build.git expert, but i assume we'd want it to build the project instead of just package an already compiled bin Aug 22 23:40:45 oil: Ok, I wasn't sure what the high-level goal of these makefiles were, to package already built components or build from scratch + package Aug 22 23:41:08 i've only ever seen the latter Aug 22 23:41:38 oil: Ok, this will by far be the most expensive compile in the ecosystem, it makes me feel bad Aug 22 23:41:50 it pulls the git tag for vX.X.X then makes it Aug 22 23:45:03 Why do I feel like I'm reading hebrew when I look at a Makefile? Aug 22 23:46:36 lol Aug 22 23:46:47 yeah, im not the person to ask Aug 23 00:11:14 error454: the reason some of the binaries are pulled in, afaik, is 100% that build.git can't build some things, and/or the necessary love for it to do so hasn't been put in Aug 23 00:11:28 however, for all such apps the build system *does* have to be somewhere and reproducible by someone Aug 23 00:11:51 this is often the WIDK. As for packaging up binaries that we don't have the source and buid systems for, i'd defer to chatting with rwhitby on that. Aug 23 00:19:41 The one thing I'm having trouble determining is where the git clone is called in the phony build directive Aug 23 00:20:33 dtzWill: pulling down and building the binary isn't a problem technically, FFmpeg is just a large project is all Aug 23 00:21:20 oh, but not all that large. yay for packaging that up! :D Aug 23 00:21:29 ...and thank god they actually have release numbers now ;) Aug 23 00:21:57 no doubt, I forked 0.8.2 and modified the SDL init to allow ffplay to run on the tp Aug 23 00:22:20 error454: the build.git makefiles include download.mk (like 'include ../../../support/download.mk' or so, check for examples) which handles the download target Aug 23 00:22:52 so you define SRC_GIT and it does the rest--again, i'd err (-or454, coudn't help myself) on using other Makefiles as rough templates Aug 23 00:23:20 oh and sRC_GIT expects a tagged version too iirc, although i think you can override that. if you have issues lmk Aug 23 00:24:25 ok, so I actually need to pull down from 1 git repository for FFmpeg, build and then pull down from a 2nd git repository, copy the binaries over and package Aug 23 00:25:11 err Aug 23 00:25:14 can you not just pull ffmpeg and build it? Aug 23 00:25:43 hmm, maybe that's the better idea, build it and then copy to /usr/bin Aug 23 00:26:17 I guess I was trying to include it in a service but it makes more sense to package it generically for the os Aug 23 00:28:15 Is anyone interested in having rtmpdump packaged as well? Aug 23 00:31:35 error454: ffmpeg /is/ in optware Aug 23 00:31:44 looks rather outdated, however. svn2008 hehe Aug 23 00:31:57 what repo does it pull from? Aug 23 00:32:18 maybe the best answer is bugging someone to update that, and then we wrap it up into a preware-install-able pacakge (like we have for other things) and your service can dep on that Aug 23 00:32:44 if you get someone who knows how to do that (I'm not such a person) I think that's the best answer, and least amount of work for everyone ^.^ Aug 23 00:32:46 I have other changes planned for it, I'd like to be able to push at my leisure Aug 23 00:32:48 shrug, building it works to Aug 23 00:32:53 i see. Aug 23 00:33:01 okay then carry on, sir! :) Aug 23 00:33:04 Specifically ffplay, not the other ffmpeg stuff Aug 23 00:42:37 error454: I would package everything together, including a sample front-end Aug 23 00:43:05 error454: and you will definitely have access to update at your leisure Aug 23 00:43:28 and if it can all be built in build.git using support/cross-compile.mk, then please do so. compile time is not an issue. Aug 23 00:46:33 rwhitby: Ok, I have all those pieces, I'm just working my way through understanding the build system Aug 23 00:46:47 PuffTheMagic: how's mendeley, you still use it? seems to fit my needs atm, mostly you hooked me into using it at all Aug 23 00:46:56 and now i get my papers on my tablet all the time, which is sweeet Aug 23 00:47:05 busted that out multiple times, every time impressive hehe Aug 23 00:47:39 mostly wondering if you still used it or what :) Aug 23 01:03:33 dtzWill: its still on my todo list but im sorta pre occupied with wirc shit right now Aug 23 01:03:41 i can only focus on 1 app at a time Aug 23 01:06:55 i will be using it more and more now that school is about to start up Aug 23 01:08:05 for sure, and yeah just wondering what your plans were as i get increasigly dependent on it ;) Aug 23 01:10:31 dtzWill: well if u are developing a workflow and find holes in mendeley let me know Aug 23 01:10:44 i did start a bug tracker so u can log shit there too if u want Aug 23 01:11:19 dtzWill: mendeley was my 2nd try for a enyo app after my half assed wirc attempt Aug 23 01:11:37 so when i get back to mendeley again I will be better after picking up shit from wirc Aug 23 01:12:17 okay, well i know shit about mendeley but if i have any ideas for facilitating workflow/tec i'll boucne them off you Aug 23 01:13:10 dtzWill: well i mean, not just workflow, but just ideas in general for the ui Aug 23 01:13:21 i was just sorta trying to implement what the desktop client has Aug 23 01:13:32 but it does not have to be that way Aug 23 01:25:05 I need a couple of volunteers who are running ubuntu-natty-chroot to test adding a non-priv user to the chroot during postinst Aug 23 01:25:41 via a modded script that whould be idempotent. Aug 23 01:25:48 (and if it isn't we need to know that too) Aug 23 02:04:49 Why are there i686 make targets along with arm? Aug 23 02:12:34 emu Aug 23 02:14:01 ah **** ENDING LOGGING AT Tue Aug 23 02:59:56 2011