**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Thu Jan 05 02:59:57 2012
Jan 05 22:51:09 <dtzWill> PuffTheMagic_: hey sorry for going MIA on you
Jan 05 22:51:35 <dtzWill> do you have anything you think i could help with still? (or some TODO i can take a look at?)
Jan 05 22:51:37 <PuffTheMagic_> no prob, my grandpa died last night so I was mia also
Jan 05 22:51:41 <dtzWill> ........
Jan 05 22:51:49 <dtzWill> wow, i'm sorry :/
Jan 05 22:51:58 <PuffTheMagic_> thanks
Jan 05 22:52:11 <PuffTheMagic_> im happy he is at rest, but its hard seeing my mom when she is upset
Jan 05 22:52:37 <dtzWill> i bet :/
Jan 05 22:52:37 <PuffTheMagic_> dtzWill: so ya, the todo list
Jan 05 22:52:49 <PuffTheMagic_> there is 1 bug that is really pissing me off and i cant figure out yet
Jan 05 22:53:06 <PuffTheMagic_> and then there is the GLES_CM to GLESv2 porting if u think its worth it
Jan 05 22:53:23 <PuffTheMagic_> but for the most part its running really smooth and fast
Jan 05 22:53:32 <dtzWill> meh, i'd defer that until you see any actual performance issues
Jan 05 22:53:40 <dtzWill> terminals i feel like don't need that super extra edge
Jan 05 22:53:43 <dtzWill> that you might need in a game or something
Jan 05 22:53:51 <PuffTheMagic_> well i think its fast enough
Jan 05 22:53:57 <PuffTheMagic_> i just didnt know if it would use less cpu
Jan 05 22:54:08 <PuffTheMagic_> thats the only reason im curious about it
Jan 05 22:54:47 <dtzWill> idk how sdlterm (your stuff is based on taht, right?) does things, but one thing that might be useful is to ensure the rendering isn't synchronous
Jan 05 22:55:23 <dtzWill> no one needs > 60fps (and probably much much less) in their terminal and when doing things like 'dmesg' forcing it to be synchronous might be a mistake
Jan 05 22:55:49 <dtzWill> whoops lost'em :)
Jan 05 22:59:22 <ka6sox> "it happens"
Jan 05 22:59:39 * dtzWill nods
Jan 05 22:59:42 <dtzWill> ka6sox: how goes it? :)
Jan 05 23:00:27 <ka6sox> so far I'm not sure if 2012 is better or worse...
Jan 05 23:00:40 <dtzWill> PuffTheMagic_: wb :)
Jan 05 23:00:52 <PuffTheMagic_> irccloud is being wacky
Jan 05 23:00:55 <dtzWill> appears so
Jan 05 23:01:06 <dtzWill> .:16:54:36:. <+dtzWill> idk how sdlterm (your stuff is based on taht, right?) does things, but one thing that might be useful is to ensure  the rendering isn't synchronous
Jan 05 23:01:06 <dtzWill> .:16:55:11:. <+dtzWill> no one needs > 60fps (and probably much much less) in their terminal and when doing things like 'dmesg' forcing it  to be synchronous might be a mistake
Jan 05 23:01:09 <PuffTheMagic_> and i moved my bip server to a new room and its not getting an IP for some reason
Jan 05 23:01:34 <PuffTheMagic_> dtzWill: i switch from sdl_poll and fixed fps to sdl_wait
Jan 05 23:01:34 <dtzWill> but also if you shoot me the bug details i can give it a looksy tonight and see if i can't help shake it out :)
Jan 05 23:01:46 <ka6sox> dtzWill, I am hoping that this year will be the year of webOS porting.
Jan 05 23:01:47 <PuffTheMagic_> are u setup to build it?
Jan 05 23:02:12 <dtzWill> haven't done so already, so going with 'no'
Jan 05 23:02:21 <dtzWill> but i was able to build mendeley, etc, so was hoping this wouldn't be that different
Jan 05 23:02:51 <PuffTheMagic_> well this being sdl/gl based you need to the new toolchain/staging shit
Jan 05 23:02:55 <PuffTheMagic_> from build.git
Jan 05 23:02:58 <dtzWill> ah
Jan 05 23:03:11 <dtzWill> i'll play with that then :)
Jan 05 23:03:12 <PuffTheMagic_> but when u clone wterm u just need to do export DEVICE=1
Jan 05 23:03:21 <PuffTheMagic_> then make will use the build.git toolchain
Jan 05 23:03:46 <dtzWill> lol am i the only one that refuses to put build.git or anything else into /srv ? lol
Jan 05 23:05:25 <PuffTheMagic_> i fought it for a day or so
Jan 05 23:05:29 <PuffTheMagic_> but i gave up on that
Jan 05 23:06:52 * dtzWill updates build.git for the changes
Jan 05 23:07:57 <dtzWill> "make toolchain" ?
Jan 05 23:08:47 <PuffTheMagic_> ya
Jan 05 23:08:53 <dtzWill> hehe ty
Jan 05 23:08:54 <PuffTheMagic_> that should pull in all the new sdl stuff
Jan 05 23:09:05 <dtzWill> here's hoping it supports -j neatly xD
Jan 05 23:09:52 <dtzWill> (doesn't seem like it, shrug)
Jan 05 23:10:24 <PuffTheMagic_> ya thats dangerous in build.git
Jan 05 23:17:47 <PuffTheMagic_> dtzWill: so this bug
Jan 05 23:18:11 <PuffTheMagic_> its pretty easy to see
Jan 05 23:18:26 <dtzWill> hooray built
Jan 05 23:18:26 <PuffTheMagic_> i have a escape sequence u can type into the term to see it
Jan 05 23:18:31 <PuffTheMagic_> or u can use mc
Jan 05 23:18:33 <PuffTheMagic_> or vttest
Jan 05 23:18:37 <PuffTheMagic_> they all show the bug
Jan 05 23:18:42 <PuffTheMagic_> it happens when the background color is set
Jan 05 23:18:52 <PuffTheMagic_> and then the cursor is moved to a new location
Jan 05 23:19:01 <PuffTheMagic_> with the cursor move escape sequences
Jan 05 23:19:18 <PuffTheMagic_> the background color is spread from the old cursor location to the new one
Jan 05 23:19:32 <PuffTheMagic_> that prob doesnt make sense but when u see it, it will make more sense
Jan 05 23:19:40 <dtzWill> okay i'll look.  taking a step back, to replace the plugin do you still have to bounce luna?
Jan 05 23:19:54 <PuffTheMagic_> no
Jan 05 23:20:08 <dtzWill> hooray, that was the most annoying thing about the other term plugin thing
Jan 05 23:20:09 <PuffTheMagic_> if u do make test, it will rebuilld and install and launch evernthing
Jan 05 23:20:53 <dtzWill> well i don't actually have novacom, etc here at work with me :)
Jan 05 23:20:58 <dtzWill> so was just gonna scp the bugger over
Jan 05 23:21:06 <PuffTheMagic_> eww
Jan 05 23:21:11 <dtzWill> (dev'ing on home machine, but still)
Jan 05 23:21:28 <PuffTheMagic_> then just to make
Jan 05 23:21:32 <PuffTheMagic_> which should make an ipk
Jan 05 23:21:35 <dtzWill> idk i enjoy not having to wire my device to anything except when doctor'ing lol
Jan 05 23:21:37 <PuffTheMagic_> and then u can scp that
Jan 05 23:21:40 <dtzWill> yep
Jan 05 23:21:56 <dtzWill> that was the plan, just making sure that it might work w.r.t pluginness before i gave it a go
Jan 05 23:22:02 <PuffTheMagic_> im so used to always having to wire things
Jan 05 23:22:22 <dtzWill> well my tablet lives on my touchstone, as does it's little brother my phone :)
Jan 05 23:22:25 <dtzWill> but yeah it really is nbd
Jan 05 23:22:34 <dtzWill> haha i just got used to using scp for whatever reason
Jan 05 23:22:40 <PuffTheMagic_> well my brother got me a touchstone
Jan 05 23:22:48 <PuffTheMagic_> so now i charge it via a touchstone
Jan 05 23:22:54 <PuffTheMagic_> but still have usb on
Jan 05 23:23:05 <PuffTheMagic_> which is nice cause my screen is always on
Jan 05 23:23:09 <PuffTheMagic_> and now the battery dont drain
Jan 05 23:29:23 <dtzWill> PuffTheMagic_: you mentioned shipping vttest with wterm, does that end up on the PATH somewhere?
Jan 05 23:29:32 <dtzWill> (just trying to find quickest debug feedback loop)
Jan 05 23:31:10 <dtzWill> (nvm)
Jan 05 23:33:22 <PuffTheMagic_> ya
Jan 05 23:33:33 <PuffTheMagic_> i install something to profile.d/
Jan 05 23:33:39 <PuffTheMagic_> which extends the path
Jan 05 23:34:05 <PuffTheMagic_> dtzWill: i take it built and installed fine
Jan 05 23:34:38 <dtzWill> i just copied over the wterm into the version i have from preware
Jan 05 23:34:53 <dtzWill> and built and copied vttest into somewhere convenient
Jan 05 23:35:39 <PuffTheMagic_> oh well if u had the preware version u could see the bug
Jan 05 23:35:50 <PuffTheMagic_> i just want to get u setup to compile so u could test fixes if u wanted
Jan 05 23:35:56 <dtzWill> yes yes
Jan 05 23:36:07 <dtzWill> i'll use your test/launch target when i'm at home for sure
Jan 05 23:36:15 <dtzWill> much better, and testing via ipk installation is much cleaner
Jan 05 23:36:24 <dtzWill> just wanted to poke at this now, and won't be home for a few hours
Jan 05 23:37:15 <PuffTheMagic_> so are u at a point where u can launch vttest?
Jan 05 23:37:22 <dtzWill> absolutely
Jan 05 23:37:29 <PuffTheMagic_> ok so in vttest
Jan 05 23:37:32 <PuffTheMagic_> go to 11
Jan 05 23:37:33 <dtzWill> although i was just about to throw https://github.com/PuffTheMagic/wTerm/issues/9 into a script for testing
Jan 05 23:37:35 <dtzWill> 11? kk
Jan 05 23:37:36 <PuffTheMagic_> which is non vt100 test
Jan 05 23:37:41 <PuffTheMagic_> then 6
Jan 05 23:37:46 <PuffTheMagic_> then 2 for the color test
Jan 05 23:37:50 <PuffTheMagic_> and u will see the issue
Jan 05 23:38:25 <PuffTheMagic_> in this color pattern it does NOT use tabs between the hellos
Jan 05 23:38:32 <PuffTheMagic_> it uses cursor placement commands
Jan 05 23:38:49 <PuffTheMagic_> there should be gaps between each hello
Jan 05 23:38:58 <dtzWill> oh, there shouldn't e color between the 'hello's?
Jan 05 23:39:02 <PuffTheMagic_> right
Jan 05 23:39:05 <dtzWill> ahh okay
Jan 05 23:39:09 <PuffTheMagic_> it should be the color of the background
Jan 05 23:39:21 <PuffTheMagic_> but this only happens when the cursor if moved with cursor placement escape codes
Jan 05 23:39:26 <PuffTheMagic_> if u inserted spaces or tabs
Jan 05 23:39:34 <PuffTheMagic_> it would "look" as expected
Jan 05 23:40:08 <PuffTheMagic_> but ya, issue 9 is this same problem
Jan 05 23:40:29 <PuffTheMagic_> echo -e "\033[10;10H\033[44mup\033[0;40;37;39;49m\033[10;30H\033[44myours\033[m"
Jan 05 23:40:37 <PuffTheMagic_> so here it moves the cursor to 10,10
Jan 05 23:40:49 <PuffTheMagic_> sets the background color to blue i think
Jan 05 23:40:58 <PuffTheMagic_> then write up to the term
Jan 05 23:41:06 <PuffTheMagic_> then clears the colors
Jan 05 23:41:09 <PuffTheMagic_> then moves to 10,30
Jan 05 23:41:15 <PuffTheMagic_> sets background again
Jan 05 23:41:18 <PuffTheMagic_> types yours to term
Jan 05 23:41:22 <PuffTheMagic_> then clears
Jan 05 23:41:36 <PuffTheMagic_> the blue background will go the whole way between up and yours
Jan 05 23:42:21 <dtzWill> wonderful, and tyvm for explanation was gonna scramble to find a reference to start decoding it
Jan 05 23:43:32 <PuffTheMagic_> \033[<row>;<col>H
Jan 05 23:43:44 <PuffTheMagic_> thats 1 of the cursor movement escape codoes
Jan 05 23:43:47 <PuffTheMagic_> there is another
Jan 05 23:43:55 <PuffTheMagic_> and it hink the same thing happens
Jan 05 23:44:48 <PuffTheMagic_> so if I can fix this bug, i can move wterm to main feed
Jan 05 23:44:56 <PuffTheMagic_> there are a few other vttests i need to fix
Jan 05 23:45:01 <PuffTheMagic_> but this is the most obvious
Jan 05 23:45:18 <dtzWill> i was very confused when i ran vttest and was loooking at '1'
Jan 05 23:45:30 <PuffTheMagic_> ya
Jan 05 23:45:38 <dtzWill> errr '2' also
Jan 05 23:45:43 <PuffTheMagic_> i havent tackled those yet
Jan 05 23:45:45 <PuffTheMagic_> 2 is mostly good
Jan 05 23:45:46 <dtzWill> yep yep
Jan 05 23:45:49 <dtzWill> one thing at a time
Jan 05 23:45:58 <PuffTheMagic_> well this was not my code base
Jan 05 23:46:07 <PuffTheMagic_> so i have been adding stuff that was unimplemented
Jan 05 23:46:13 <PuffTheMagic_> cause debugging existing code is harder ;)
Jan 05 23:46:22 <dtzWill> hehe
Jan 05 23:46:28 <PuffTheMagic_> i've added all the missing stuff for the most part
Jan 05 23:46:35 <PuffTheMagic_> so now its time to fix existing bugs :(
Jan 05 23:47:07 <PuffTheMagic_> dtzWill: http://ompldr.org/vYzM4cA/wterm_2012-05-01_184419.png
Jan 05 23:47:21 <PuffTheMagic_> ^^ here is this same bug in midnight commander
Jan 05 23:51:07 <PuffTheMagic_> javispedro: we created this a while back since the main channel has turned into a support chan
Jan 05 23:51:35 <dwc-> gnome-terminal fails pretty hard at vttest
Jan 05 23:51:45 <dwc-> I think it's the resizing
Jan 05 23:51:51 <javispedro> PuffTheMagic_: hah
Jan 05 23:52:06 <PuffTheMagic_> dwc-: when u start vttest specify the dimensions
Jan 05 23:52:14 <PuffTheMagic_> vttest 30x80.135
Jan 05 23:52:18 <PuffTheMagic_> or what ever u are at
Jan 05 23:52:25 <PuffTheMagic_> rowsxmincols.maxcols
Jan 05 23:55:16 <dtzWill> PuffTheMagic_: the related escape code's semantics are to let you move the cursor to the specified coordinates with no other changes, correct?
Jan 05 23:55:26 <PuffTheMagic_> dtzWill: i think this bug has to do with how empty rows are filled in
Jan 05 23:55:36 <PuffTheMagic_> cause this bug never happens on the left
Jan 05 23:55:42 <PuffTheMagic_> it only happens on the right
Jan 05 23:56:36 <dwc-> PuffTheMagic_: still fails with 24x80.80
Jan 05 23:56:49 <PuffTheMagic_> heh
Jan 05 23:56:59 <PuffTheMagic_> vttest was a great find
Jan 05 23:57:24 <PuffTheMagic_> konsole passes most of the tests
Jan 06 00:14:02 <rwhitby> dtzWill: build.git shouldn't need to go in /srv - it should be position independent
Jan 06 00:14:20 <dtzWill> rwhitby: it doesn't, but misc projects using it do
Jan 06 00:14:28 <PuffTheMagic_> well
Jan 06 00:14:34 <PuffTheMagic_> its only cause of lazyness
Jan 06 00:14:36 <dtzWill> it's nbd at all and in all cases is just setting a var or two
Jan 06 00:14:37 <dtzWill> yes
Jan 06 00:14:48 <PuffTheMagic_> i got sick of exporting ROOT= all the time
Jan 06 00:14:54 * dtzWill nods
Jan 06 00:14:56 <PuffTheMagic_> so i just put it /srv and hardcoded shit
Jan 06 00:15:32 <PuffTheMagic_> but when i was using my gentoo setup i was strict about setting ROOT=
Jan 06 00:15:51 <dtzWill> yeah makes perfect sense
Jan 06 00:15:56 <dtzWill> haha i'm sorry i brought it up :D
Jan 06 00:18:14 <PuffTheMagic_> rwhitby: so i know u love your xterm cause it works, but i was just curious if you have played with wterm at all and if u had any bugs/issues/comments
Jan 06 00:22:43 <rwhitby> PuffTheMagic_: I have not yet, but not for lack of interest but lack of time.
Jan 06 00:23:02 <rwhitby> I expect that wTerm will make xterm obsolete for 90% of it's use cases.
Jan 06 00:23:15 * dtzWill nods
Jan 06 00:25:53 <PuffTheMagic_> well i am glad Brybry figured out the jail crash issue
Jan 06 00:46:10 <dtzWill> PuffTheMagic_: if i wanted to throw some debug logs in, where would they go?
Jan 06 00:46:17 <dtzWill> (or how might i add debug logs?)
Jan 06 00:46:23 <dtzWill> i only minimally played with plugins
Jan 06 00:46:47 <PuffTheMagic_> i use syslog for that
Jan 06 00:46:53 <dtzWill> kk
Jan 06 00:46:54 <PuffTheMagic_> its already initialized
Jan 06 00:47:03 <PuffTheMagic_> just do syslog(LOG_ERR, "FUCK YOU BUG");
Jan 06 00:47:23 <PuffTheMagic_> and then 'tail -f /var/log/messages | grep "wterm.plugin"'
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