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Apr 02 08:02:38 <bluelightning> morning all
Apr 02 08:18:01 <mckoan> good morning
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Apr 02 15:03:00 <zeddii> first post!
Apr 02 15:03:10 <fray> YPTM: I'm still here
Apr 02 15:03:12 <Song_liu> YPTM: welcome to the technical team meeting, please let me know who's on the bridge.
Apr 02 15:03:31 <scottrif> YPTM: Scott Rifenbark is here.
Apr 02 15:03:35 <davest> YPTM: davest here (again)
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Apr 02 15:05:40 <pidge> YPTM: dialing in now
Apr 02 15:06:01 <Song_liu> YPTM: Any opens?
Apr 02 15:06:20 <RP2> Song_liu: LSB
Apr 02 15:06:47 <RP2> Song_liu: Mark was talking about LSB :)
Apr 02 15:06:56 <fray> LSB - Linux Standard Base  ;)
Apr 02 15:06:57 <fray> sorry
Apr 02 15:09:58 <fray> multilib in world is a useful test IMHO.. it finds the PN/BPN problems
Apr 02 15:15:54 <RP2> fray: agreed, I just want to understand why we have "new" failures on the release build
Apr 02 15:16:28 <fray> I'll mention it on the call, my concern is the Python runtime tests
Apr 02 15:16:52 <RP2> fray: for lsb?
Apr 02 15:16:56 <fray> ya
Apr 02 15:17:08 <fray> it's only three items, but python is something we really do need to ensure is working properly on the target
Apr 02 15:17:31 <RP2> fray: build appliance does that quite well, at least for one arch :)
Apr 02 15:18:07 <fray> ya.. my concern is that the three failures could be indicating a problem we haven't found in python.. I don't remember python failures in 1.3  (but my memory could be wrong)..
Apr 02 15:18:32 <fray> my concern is that we compare results against 1.3 where applicable.. since that would indicate a regression.. (where 1.4 has new tests, we just need to make a determination)
Apr 02 15:19:06 <darknighte> Song_liu: YPTM: Sean just joined.
Apr 02 15:19:43 <bluelightning> YPTM: Paul Eggleton joined a bit earlier as well FYI
Apr 02 15:29:27 <sgw_> Song_liu: I think that you need to skip Constantin
Apr 02 15:29:41 <darknighte> bluelightning: what was the URL?
Apr 02 15:29:48 <Crofton|work> fyi: https://bugs.launchpad.net/linaro-oe/+bug/1154930
Apr 02 15:29:57 <fray> http://layers.openembedded.org/
Apr 02 15:30:20 <bluelightning> ^
Apr 02 15:31:20 <Crofton|work> and: https://launchpad.net/linaro-oe
Apr 02 15:31:27 <scottrif> bluelightning: I reference openembedded.org/wiki/LayerIndex as a place to look for existing layers.  This wiki page still up-to-date?
Apr 02 15:31:27 <darknighte> bluelightning: we may need to put a redirect for http://www.openembedded.org/wiki/LayerIndex
Apr 02 15:34:31 <Zagor> how does this index work? I searched for recipe "expect" and got a hit for busybox?
Apr 02 15:35:07 <Zagor> oh, it matches the description. "the expected functionality"
Apr 02 15:35:40 <bluelightning> Zagor: yep, it searches name, summary, description and filename
Apr 02 15:35:48 <darknighte> halstead: 20 whole minutes?!?!?   unacceptable!
Apr 02 15:39:00 <halstead> Thanks darknighte :)
Apr 02 15:39:17 <darknighte> halstead: np.  way to keep us running!
Apr 02 15:39:40 <RP2> halstead: nice work in getting things back up despite the challenges :)
Apr 02 15:39:58 <Song_liu> YPTM: thank you all for joining the meeting. Have a nice day or evening
Apr 02 15:49:55 <Crofton|work> scottrif, darknighte The plan is to replace the layer index with the tool, but the tool just went live :)
Apr 02 15:58:50 <darknighte> bluelightning: halstead: belen: alexandru: the new index rocks.  thanks for putting it together
Apr 02 16:00:47 <bluelightning> darknighte: you're welcome :)
Apr 02 16:35:55 <Saur> If I change DISTRO_FEATURES (e.g., to remove x11) and rerun bitbake, why doesn't anything happen? AFAICT libX11 is still included in the rootfs...
Apr 02 16:48:44 <bluelightning> Saur: are you sure the value is being used? bitbake -e | grep ^DISTRO_FEATURES=
Apr 02 16:49:21 <Saur> bluelightning: Yea, I have checked with bitbake -e, and the resulting DISTRO_FEATURES matches what I wanted...
Apr 02 16:50:11 <bluelightning> Saur: so nothing happened at all? or some things rebuilt?
Apr 02 16:53:41 <Saur> bluelightning: It only reruns the do_rootfs step (which always happens when rerunning bitbake)
Apr 02 16:59:03 <RP2> Saur: try removing the cache. I think we might have a cache bug
Apr 02 17:00:56 <Saur> RP2: What cache?
Apr 02 17:05:54 <Saur> RP2: If you meant the cache directory in ${TOPDIR}, removing it made no difference.
Apr 02 17:18:25 <RP2> Saur: ok, was worth a try :/
Apr 02 17:19:18 <Saur> RP2: Any other ideas+
Apr 02 17:21:01 <Saur> RP2: I would have thought changing DISTRO_FEATURES would affect quite a number of packages...
Apr 02 17:21:37 <Saur> Given how many look at the variable...
Apr 02 17:24:51 <bluelightning> Saur: indeed, that is what I would expect as well
Apr 02 17:25:18 <bluelightning> Saur: what version of the build system are you using?
Apr 02 17:25:34 <Saur> bluelightning: master of poky
Apr 02 17:25:42 <bluelightning> ok
Apr 02 17:40:13 <JaMa> RP2: I've noticed that you merged some of my changes, there is one older pending for util-linux http://patchwork.openembedded.org/patch/46565/ There was discussion with Bernhard, but only about possible improvements for lsb, in the end he agreed that patch is OK to go in
Apr 02 19:27:22 <sgw_> JaMa: I noticed that also as I was going back though the queue trying to gather items up, RP and I will look at it again
Apr 02 19:31:16 <JaMa> sgw_: ok, thanks
Apr 02 19:34:34 <alex_kag> help me plz. udev_182.bb provide  libudev and libgudev, but when i build qt4e-demo-image , only libudev installed. what i should to do to install libgudev ?
Apr 02 19:40:26 <pidge> halstead: ping. List of autobuilder distros?
Apr 02 19:41:38 <alex_kag> ?
Apr 02 19:41:56 <JaMa> alex_kag: add it to IMAGE_INSTALL
Apr 02 19:45:25 <alex_kag> is in IMAGE_INSTALL - i should wrought  name of "rpm" package?  I think there are written the names of "bb" packages :(
Apr 02 19:45:50 <JaMa> package names
Apr 02 19:48:47 <alex_kag> full? I have libgudev-1.0-0-182-r6.armv7a_vfp_neon.rpm  , i must write "libgudev" or "libgudev-1.0-0-182-r6" ?
Apr 02 19:50:47 <JaMa> just libgudev
Apr 02 19:52:24 <alex_kag> thanks
Apr 02 20:50:37 <Saur> RP2: Finally figured out my mistake with DISTRO_FEATURES. It helps to put the assignment in the correct file... I had put it in recipe file for the image. It worked a lot better once I put it in local.conf...
Apr 02 21:24:55 <RP2> Saur: that would make a big difference! :)
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