**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Tue Jun 11 02:59:58 2013 **** BEGIN LOGGING AT Tue Jun 11 06:41:24 2013 Jun 11 07:19:56 good morning Jun 11 07:58:42 hello europe Jun 11 08:21:44 morning all Jun 11 14:50:19 sgw_: do people actually use resolvconf in poky, or is it just tracking openembedded? Jun 11 14:50:37 I ask, because I've had to make a couple of local changes to get it to work at all Jun 11 14:50:55 thaytan: sounds like not a lot uses it to me... Jun 11 14:51:33 rburton: I guess people usually use connman or so? Jun 11 14:51:52 several do, that's for sure Jun 11 14:52:30 I'll make these changes to resolvconf and see if anyone wants them Jun 11 14:54:19 thaytan: awesome Jun 11 15:00:05 YPTM: Cristian joined Jun 11 15:00:12 YPTM: Scott Rifenbark joined Jun 11 15:00:32 Song_Liu: Richard is here Jun 11 15:00:34 YPTM: Tom Z here Jun 11 15:00:49 Hi. Any licensing expert here? I've (still) got this problem https://lists.yoctoproject.org/pipermail/yocto/2013-June/016523.html Jun 11 15:01:08 YPTM: Kevin Strasser is here Jun 11 15:01:09 YPTM: davest is on Jun 11 15:01:20 YPTM: welcome to the technical team meeting, please let me know who's on the bridge. Thanks! Jun 11 15:01:26 YPTM: jzhang on the call Jun 11 15:01:32 * davest surprised he still remembers what YPTM stands for Jun 11 15:01:45 YPTM: Laurentiu PAlcu joined Jun 11 15:02:24 YPTM: ross here Jun 11 15:02:30 YPTM: belen here Jun 11 15:02:31 HI DAVEST! Jun 11 15:02:32 YTPM: Saul's here Jun 11 15:02:35 davest: guessing: Yocto Project Techical Meeting? Jun 11 15:02:43 *Technical Jun 11 15:02:48 panda84kde: correct Jun 11 15:02:53 YPTM: polk is here Jun 11 15:03:03 not that difficult then! Jun 11 15:03:22 panda84kde: a joke, I have been out for a while Jun 11 15:03:28 YPTM: Paul Eggleton is here Jun 11 15:03:53 hi Jun 11 15:04:22 YPTM: Corneliu joined Jun 11 15:04:40 YPTM: any opens? Jun 11 15:05:14 davest: remind me who you are? :) Jun 11 15:05:35 RP, tell davest you have gone pro racing motrcycles Jun 11 15:07:30 Crofton|work: :) Jun 11 15:10:02 YPTM: Nitin is joining the bridge Jun 11 15:10:25 YPTM: Bruce Ashfield on the bridge, but on two calls at once .. so ping me. (and don't ask ..) Jun 11 15:11:00 Crofton|work: I figured you had gone sailing permanently Jun 11 15:11:33 we would have, if they engine hadn't started .... Jun 11 15:18:26 * sgw_ fires up the AB with master and the updated buildtools-tarball Jun 11 15:21:39 I have a question about the tar-based archiver class. I get a file tmp/deploy/sources/.../xxx-series.tar.gz, are those the patches? Jun 11 15:21:58 I mean, I see they have the patches in them, I'm just trying to understand precisely what that file is for Jun 11 15:23:41 halstead: thanks for that! :) Jun 11 15:24:16 halstead: btw, I really like that wip wdd chart, I think we should make that the default Jun 11 15:24:23 and, what is xxx.diff.gz? Jun 11 15:24:25 * zeddii looks away from the phone. Jun 11 15:24:30 and xxx.showdata.dump Jun 11 15:28:32 RP: thank you. I can make it the default by the next work week. Jun 11 15:29:06 * zeddii flees! Jun 11 15:29:19 halstead: and thank you for working on them! :) Jun 11 15:29:42 halstead: ditto - thanks! Jun 11 15:30:13 :) Jun 11 15:34:44 any idea with respect to my archiver questions? Jun 11 15:35:04 Garibaldi|work: strassek may be able to help you out if you can wait a little bit Jun 11 15:35:12 I was hoping to find a way to dump a single tar.gz that had both the sources and the patches within it Jun 11 15:35:38 I mean, I can post-process it if the xxx-series.tar.gz is the right place to get the patches Jun 11 15:35:56 but then sometimes I don't see a copy of the original sources Jun 11 15:36:50 I guess I'm just trying to understand what the expected behavior is Jun 11 17:30:59 Garibaldi|work: As far as I know, there is nothing in the archiver that will include both sources and patches in a single archive. Jun 11 17:33:45 Garibaldi|work: Can you give me an example of a package that isn't archiving original source? Jun 11 18:15:16 strassek: base-files, for example, gives me only base-files-3.0.14-r73-series.tar.gz base-files-3.0.14-r73.diff.gz and base-files-3.0.14-r73.showdata.dump; the xxx-series.tar.gz file has everything from SRC_URI. Jun 11 18:16:17 perhaps I had to have a source tarball to begin with before I get a source tarball archive? Jun 11 18:24:44 crap, can't use pkgutil.walk_packages(), since it imports them all, and some crappy modules have side effect causing imports Jun 11 18:24:47 * kergoth grumbles Jun 11 18:54:49 https://gist.github.com/kergoth/5759600 ended up being pretty trivial, seems to work though.. now for the shlibs-type bits in a packagefunc Jun 11 18:57:05 tried modulefinder, but it recurses through everything, which wasn't ideal Jun 11 18:59:59 * kergoth mutters as he realizes he forgot to handle relative imports Jun 11 19:27:22 is there some document that describes how to use pseudo? Jun 11 19:32:53 Hmm. Jun 11 19:33:00 Like a man page? We have one of those. Jun 11 19:34:35 yeah, a man page would be good :-) Jun 11 19:34:42 nroff -man pseudo.1 Jun 11 19:36:29 ah, nice Jun 11 19:36:29 thanks Jun 11 19:37:26 For the most part, the answer is "you don't use pseudo, bitbake does". Jun 11 19:37:45 woah, people still write in nroff/groff Jun 11 19:37:53 i thought those people went extinct Jun 11 19:38:30 (most things seems to use texi or asciidoc or something seemingly) Jun 11 19:39:23 seebs: yeah, I don't want to — believe me Jun 11 19:39:24 seebs: the problem I'm having is I have an SDK that I built using the Yocto framework and I'm trying to use it to build ruby Jun 11 19:39:54 I hate the thing where programs don't have a man page and I have to learn some other thing to read the docs. So I didn't do it. :) Jun 11 19:40:17 seebs: yeah, $@*% info :-) Jun 11 19:40:34 My favorite is nested chains of "oh, we don't do THESE docs, use THOSE docs". Jun 11 19:40:37 seebs, to clarify: they compile to a man page Jun 11 19:40:40 just dont write it natively Jun 11 19:40:43 it generates some binary that it wants to run, but that binary isn't run within the context of the sysroot Jun 11 19:40:47 I was hoping pseudo might help Jun 11 19:41:02 I thought everyone uses GNU info these days...right? rigth? Jun 11 19:41:07 netpbm is very easy to misconfigure so that it tells you to read docs which are in turn empty things that link you to a URL that isn't working anymore. :) Jun 11 19:41:43 The other thing is, I know how to write -man, and then it's super easy to use the docs to get the relevant information. Jun 11 19:43:14 I am not totally sure, but I think in cases where something wants to happen in a sysroot-like context, usually that's done during the build by the recipe. Or handled with a postinstall script in an RPM, or something. And those are smart enough to get the context right. Jun 11 19:54:57 hi, i'm looking for a way to package kernel modules in an initramfs image without the kernel image being pulled in as well, is this possible? Jun 11 22:42:05 Does anyone use ruby from meta-openembedded/meta-ruby ? I've built the thing, but when I run it I get a seg fault Jun 11 22:44:04 didn't know if there was some know issue (either with the package or with configuration); I didn't see anything online Jun 11 22:45:56 Garibaldi|work1: I'm using only ruby-native from that Jun 11 22:46:16 I see Jun 11 22:48:03 I have it on my rootfs. When I run it w/o parameters I immediately get a segfault Jun 11 22:48:03 guess I should rebuild with gdb :-) Jun 11 22:52:42 eh, nevermind — some issue on my end Jun 11 23:22:37 sgw_: the patch for exporting OE_QMAKE_QT_CONFIG is still needed. did paul's testing go smoothly? Jun 11 23:34:10 Net147: might have gotten lost in the shuffle, I did ask for a consolidated list of the qt patches at one one, meaning provide me with a set of patches preferably in a branch someplace Jun 11 23:52:48 bluelightning: did you testing for OE_QMAKE_QT_CONFIG patch go smoothly? Jun 11 23:55:53 Net147: as mentioned in the thread I tested the QMAKE_QT_CONFIG patch you sent earlier, along with two other patches ("classes/qmake_base: allow parallel make", and "qt: updated qmake2 class to export qconfig.pri mkspec") Jun 11 23:56:02 I didn't notice any problems Jun 12 00:00:28 sgw_: drop the note about the build system going crazy and add the two patches to MUT? Jun 12 00:01:23 Net147: this is why I was looking for an updated patch series with corrected commit messages Jun 12 00:01:42 Net147: I am not exactly sure what you want, can you please provide that. Jun 12 00:41:11 sgw_: the original patch had the message. my commit doesn't. Jun 12 01:41:50 halstead: Jun 12 02:12:24 otavio: you rang? Jun 12 02:12:32 pidge: hi Jun 12 02:12:38 pidge: got my email? Jun 12 02:15:44 yes Jun 12 02:16:02 I'll get them over Jun 12 02:16:06 give me 20 Jun 12 02:27:44 pidge: sorry by bother you :) Jun 12 02:28:20 otavio: no worries **** ENDING LOGGING AT Wed Jun 12 02:59:58 2013