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Sep 05 15:05:22 <khem`> I am trying to get update-rc.d into an image with systemd but it always ignores it from IMAGE_INSTALL any ideas
Sep 05 15:09:16 <kergoth> khem`: lib/oe/rootfs.py has the extremely questionable behavior of uninstalling certain packages when package-management isn't in IMAGE_FEATURES, including update-rc.d, base-passwd, shadow (wtf?) and update-alternatives, see around lines 232-248
Sep 05 15:09:25 <kergoth> from a quick grep for update-rc.d in meta/classes & meta/lib :)
Sep 05 15:09:41 <khem`> ah
Sep 05 15:11:41 * kergoth thinks that should really be reworked. at the *very* least it should be in a metadata variable, not hardcoded in the python module
Sep 05 15:12:12 <kergoth> better yet, it just doesn't make sense to remove some of that.. it's not all only for use by the runtime package manager
Sep 05 15:12:53 <kergoth> update-rc.d could be used by the user to adjust configured services, update-alternatives could be used by the user to change which alternative they want to use if multiple were installed by IMAGE_INSTALL, ...
Sep 05 15:13:08 <kergoth> so should both move it to a variable and consider removing some of it from the default value of that variable
Sep 05 15:14:23 <khem`> agreed
Sep 05 15:14:50 <khem`> systemd now will need update-rc.d to be on system always
Sep 05 15:15:00 <kergoth> why?
Sep 05 15:15:29 <khem`> so it can work with sysvinit services
Sep 05 15:15:47 <khem`> it now delegates that work
Sep 05 15:16:40 <kergoth> any recipe inheriting update-rc.d and systemd when sysvinit is in distro features will depend on update-rc.d anyway
Sep 05 15:20:50 <khem`> yeah but then is surprisingly knocks it out
Sep 05 15:20:57 <khem`> and I was at loss
Sep 05 15:21:29 <khem`> its only 4K size script
Sep 05 15:21:34 <khem`> why do we exclude it
Sep 05 15:21:48 <khem`> when packagemangament is not there
Sep 05 15:21:52 <khem`> I wonder
Sep 05 15:22:48 <khem`> systemd delegates enabling/disabling of sysv services to distro specific tool called systemd-sysv-install
Sep 05 15:22:57 <khem`> and I am trying to implement that
Sep 05 15:23:25 <khem`> I cant use chkconfig because that tool is smart now and delegates to systemc already :)
Sep 05 15:23:46 <khem`> this is debian driven change
Sep 05 15:24:56 <khem`> kergoth: thanks I removed from that list and now it is working good
Sep 05 18:53:19 <kergoth> Hmm, I wonder if bitbake sees a difference between a build without a task in the task graph, and the task existing but being flagged as noexec. it'd be nice if it checksummed the two as the same, since the result is the same
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