**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Fri Feb 12 02:59:58 2016 Feb 12 08:25:00 In the oe recipe for opencv, why does it inherit autotools if cmake is used to build opencv? http://layers.openembedded.org/layerindex/recipe/1025/ Feb 12 08:26:53 is it safe to remove it? Feb 12 08:38:03 DEPENDS is used to specify both compile time and runtime dependancies, right? Feb 12 08:58:46 Hi. I'm facing below error while compiling mosquitto mqtt recipe Feb 12 08:58:48 read_handle_server.c:31:25: fatal error: uuid/uuid.h: No such file or directory | # include Feb 12 08:59:14 Strangely the same recipe is working in another build of mine Feb 12 08:59:53 How do I find which package dependency fixes this? Feb 12 09:00:29 Also can someone please explain me the probably reason why it's successful in my other build? Feb 12 09:01:55 rtr_: I am new to yocto, but I believe you need the uuid libs Feb 12 09:02:28 it is provided by recipes-devtools/ossp-uuid/ossp-uuid_1.6.2.bb Feb 12 09:03:37 so maybe including ossp-uuid in your DEPENDS and making sure that the oe layer is included might fix this? Feb 12 09:07:20 @archer121 Unfortunately it is still the same after adding the dependency Feb 12 09:07:23 DEPENDS = "ossp-uuid openssl c-ares" Feb 12 09:07:36 this is my DEPENDS Feb 12 09:09:06 rtr_: I am new to YP and am afraid I can't help you. Feb 12 09:09:32 @archer121 That's ok. Thank you :) Feb 12 09:22:21 Hello, I have a small problem. I have created a modified version of opencv recipe in my layer. So now there are to opencv recipes. So how do I make bitbake select my Feb 12 09:22:27 recipe Feb 12 09:22:54 I though setting the layer priority might do this, but it did not work for me. Feb 12 09:22:55 archer121: it will select the recipe from the layer with the highest priority Feb 12 09:23:27 ohh, which is high, priority 7 or priority 8? Feb 12 09:23:33 archer121: I would advise using bbappend instead of creating a whole new recipe Feb 12 09:23:36 8 Feb 12 09:25:00 okey, lemme read the docs on bbappend. But why do you insist on bbappend? why not create a new recipe? I read that we can take an existing recipe and modify it to create the new recipe. Feb 12 09:25:22 i read in the docs* Feb 12 09:25:36 it isn't possible to "bbappend" a .inc file, right? Feb 12 09:34:22 rtr_: You are using the recipe from meta-intel-iot-middleware ? Feb 12 09:40:07 @archer121 I modified it to use 1.4.5 Feb 12 09:41:04 oss-uuid is adding uuid.h here --> ./usr/include/ossp/uuid.h Feb 12 09:41:23 but header file is looking for uuid/uuid.h Feb 12 09:41:55 I checked my other build where this is working it has this --> ./usr/include/uuid/uuid.h Feb 12 09:42:06 I wonder which package is doing this Feb 12 09:46:09 rtr_: hi, in this link, it could be from "e2fsprogs" package : http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1442035 Feb 12 09:46:52 rtr_: I did not check if it is the case, maybe you could look at it ? Feb 12 09:49:49 @Mylene Checking that Feb 12 09:52:30 @Mylene Wowww. That worked Feb 12 09:53:10 good to hear! Feb 12 09:53:12 rtr_: nice ! :) Feb 12 09:54:03 util-linux-2.25.2-r1 <-- This got built along with some others. Do you think this is the reason? Feb 12 09:59:53 @Mylene Anyways. Thanks a ton to you Feb 12 09:59:58 :) Feb 12 10:03:11 rtr_: I have this package compiled and yes ! It comes with this one. You can check it (if you do not have "rm_work" in your local.conf) by looking to your build_directory/tmp/work/XX/util-linux/XX/image. Here, it is the image of the package compiled and in the usr/include directory, you will find your uuid/uuid.h. So I think you need only this package (and maybe not the e2fsprogs). Check it :) Feb 12 10:03:22 rtr_: you are welcome Feb 12 10:11:59 Where is the list of supported/tested boards? Feb 12 10:17:09 @Mylene Working with util-linux Feb 12 10:18:15 rtr_: perfect ! Feb 12 11:09:55 I am required to install a lot of deb files on the yocto image. How do I do this? Feb 12 11:13:07 Hi all. What are my alternatives concerning package managers for yocto projects? I've googled arround for a while now and can't seem to find a simple list of available options. Feb 12 11:16:09 Anticom: opkg, rpm + smart, dpkg + apt Feb 12 11:18:08 rburton: May be a stupid question but can i use rpm w/o smart or dpkg w/o apt? Feb 12 11:18:36 for image generation you need to use smart / apt Feb 12 11:18:37 rburton: I don't need any remote update stuff. I only need it to work locally Feb 12 11:18:43 but on target, you install what you want Feb 12 11:18:44 okay i see Feb 12 11:19:01 thank's Feb 12 11:19:16 opkg might be a good choice as it's nice and small Feb 12 11:20:19 From what i've read so far i understand it as such: rpm --> old, dpkg --> feature rich but bulky, opkg --> modern and lightweight but with reduced set of features Feb 12 11:20:36 is that about right? Feb 12 11:20:39 not really Feb 12 11:20:50 rpm -> huge but feature full Feb 12 11:21:02 dpkg -> moderately huge and featureful, but less well tested in yocto Feb 12 11:21:08 opkg -> small, just enough features to work Feb 12 11:21:26 and concerning opkg would you consider it being well tested? Feb 12 11:21:35 tested every night on the autobuilders Feb 12 11:21:40 Hi. Is there a place where logging is done for python recipes. W.r.t python recipes, all I see is "Command returned non-zero exit status 2" in log.do_compile. How do I see why a particular command failed? Feb 12 11:21:42 Great Feb 12 11:21:47 thank's a lot for the explanation :) Feb 12 11:22:05 deb is the only one that isn't used by a large proportion of the community, but it still gets build testing every night Feb 12 11:27:31 rburton: who must be bribed (with beer, coffee, ...) to get perl-5.22.1 backported to jethro? Feb 12 11:28:26 robert yang, but you need an exceptional reason to get a version bump in a stable branch Feb 12 11:29:06 ist's nit a version bump, 5.22.1 is only bugfix release Feb 12 11:29:14 still a version bump Feb 12 11:29:17 I have to install several files from a local apt file repository into the image. Is it possible with yocto? Feb 12 11:29:27 sno: openssh got an exception because there were *so many* CVEs Feb 12 11:29:28 just because the string changed, right? Feb 12 11:30:40 there're a lot of bad things one can say about p5p - but they're seriously proactive wrt. security issue, so CVE's are very rare for p5 Feb 12 11:54:53 Is there a place where logging is done for python recipes? W.r.t python recipes, all I see is "Command returned non-zero exit status 2" in log.do_compile. How do I see why a particular command failed? Feb 12 12:16:26 My package is using dbus system bus. I need to patch /etc/dbus-1/system.conf while my recipe is being built. How do I do this? Feb 12 12:49:47 rtr_: you install a fragment to edit the configuration, not edit the system config Feb 12 12:50:02 eg connman installs /etc/dbus-1/system.d/connman.conf Feb 12 12:51:19 hey, i have a simple doubt. Can my layer have a local.conf? Feb 12 12:54:40 @archer121 You can. But you need to chage TEMPLATECONF before creating the build directory Feb 12 12:56:31 I learned about Clear Linux now and I am looking for the Yocto Project layers used by it; is it available? Feb 12 13:01:12 @rburton Thanks. I was thinking I need to patch system.conf. Feb 12 13:04:50 otavio: clear doesn't use yocto Feb 12 13:06:20 rburton: ok but is the swupd and other components open source? Feb 12 13:24:52 Hey, my do_rootfs is failing and here are the logs. Please take a look and help me out. https://paste.ubuntu.com/15023970/ Feb 12 13:30:25 I do not want opencv-java, which I am guessing is a dependency given to opencv-3-0 Feb 12 13:31:01 it will be Feb 12 13:35:40 CTtpollard: How do I fix this? Feb 12 13:48:03 CTtpollard: Any way I can fix this? Feb 12 14:00:28 is anyone aware if I should be able to use https://fossology.ist.unomaha.edu/ for the spdx class in yocto? Feb 12 14:01:18 I'm currently getting this python error from do_spdx http://paste.baserock.org/lozanejoti Feb 12 14:05:17 otavio: afaik, its in legal hell and will be open Feb 12 14:05:55 rburton: so the website is wrong; it says it is an open source initiative and source is not avail :-( Feb 12 14:07:13 otavio: aspirationally open? :) Feb 12 14:25:26 zeddii: around? Feb 12 14:40:16 RP, pretty sure he's out today. Feb 12 14:40:55 Canuckistan has a holiday monday, so lots of ppl have taken today as well to make a 4d wknd. Feb 12 14:44:27 doing a wget on the fossology seems to show that to access the mod spdx you need to authenticate, I'm tried passing auth in the url but no difference Feb 12 14:45:55 paulg_: I've sent him email, we have an issue with the kernel upgrades to qemu which I merged into master :/ Feb 12 14:46:32 CTtpollard: new fossology server doesn't support those mods.. Feb 12 14:47:15 no mod=spdx_license_once ? Feb 12 14:47:19 RP, is there an autobuild fail link? Feb 12 14:48:37 maxin ^ Feb 12 14:49:21 paulg_: just summed it up on the poky list, but https://autobuilder.yoctoproject.org/main/builders/nightly-x86/builds/648/steps/Running%20Sanity%20Tests/logs/stdio Feb 12 14:50:18 paulg_: https://lists.yoctoproject.org/pipermail/poky/2016-February/010397.html - just confirmed the linked patch doesn't fix it either Feb 12 14:50:44 whee. runtime X11 fails. Feb 12 14:52:38 x fails as it can't fork xkbcomp Feb 12 14:53:04 CTtpollard: https://fossology.ist.unomaha.edu/?mod=oneshot-monk seems to be available.. Feb 12 14:53:31 you get a new "x86/PAT: Xorg:796 map pfn expected mapping type uncached-minus for [mem 0xfd000000-0xfdffffff], got write-combinin" in the logs for each X restart attempt Feb 12 14:54:38 maxin: I was just working through the instructions, which don't list that mod Feb 12 14:55:26 CTtpollard: I had some luck with this one-liner : "curl --form file_input=@LICENSE --form press=OK http://localhost/repo/?mod=oneshot-monk " Feb 12 14:56:17 maxin: can you use the unomaha.edu server, or only your own hosted one? Feb 12 14:56:41 CTtpollard: used my personal test server.. Feb 12 14:58:01 CTtpollard: spdx.bbclass needs updates to work with new fossology release.. Feb 12 14:58:50 hello, my do_rootfs is failing with an error. Would you please take a look? https://paste.ubuntu.com/15023970/ Thanks! Feb 12 15:09:08 hello guys Feb 12 15:10:33 CTtpollard: filed a bug for that: https://bugzilla.yoctoproject.org/show_bug.cgi?id=9107 Feb 12 15:10:35 Bug 9107: normal, Undecided, ---, maxin.john, NEW , Update spdx.bbclass to work with FOSSology 3.0.0 release Feb 12 15:12:22 maxin: thanks Feb 12 15:18:03 kergoth: I am using Sourcery_G++_Lite toolchain and have a problem with configuring libtool-corss. Could you please take a look at this log: http://paste.pound-python.org/show/K2dbVxqVqdHHgYiHIzXA/ Feb 12 15:21:57 paulg_: Setting CONFIG_X86_PAT to not set makes things work FWIW Feb 12 15:22:39 RP, not surprised ; guessing that bypasses untrack_pfn splat somehow Feb 12 15:23:17 google is rife with intsances ; some related to MCE being enabled going back to 2012. Feb 12 15:26:06 paulg_: since I'm having trouble understanding the underlying problem, just testing the hammers I have available :) Feb 12 15:27:05 yeah, an interim workaround seems fine IMHO while ppl are out etc. No need to unwind the uprev. Feb 12 15:27:26 I'd dig in deeper, but I've got ppl nagging me for other things. Feb 12 15:28:23 ...hence why I'm not doing the 4d Canuckistan weekend. :) Feb 12 15:29:48 paulg_: to be honest, I'll probably have to back qemux86 off to 4.1. I know zeddii doesn't like me doing config appends ;-) Feb 12 15:31:45 maxin: looks like I'll resort to manually uploading Feb 12 15:32:25 and maybe we can look into how the oneshot-monk handles the request, so the class can be updated to use it :) Feb 12 15:33:31 RP, ok, give me a couple mins to grab a copy of 4.4.1 and look at the source a bit b4 unwinding then Feb 12 15:33:40 ...no promisess. Feb 12 15:36:34 bambook: cc1: error: unrecognized command line option "-fno-sysroot-suffix" Feb 12 15:36:46 kergoth: yes, and -qversion Feb 12 15:36:46 bambook: is the real error. looks like it's an older toolchain without that option. what version is this? Feb 12 15:36:46 Feb 12 15:37:00 qversion is harmless, it's a check, but non-fatal Feb 12 15:37:00 kergoth: hold on a second Feb 12 15:37:57 kergoth: gcc version 4.5.1 (Sourcery G++ Lite 2010.09-50) Feb 12 15:38:23 course, we don't pass -fno-sysroot-suffix, we pass --no-sysroot-suffix, guess something transforms it. Feb 12 15:38:25 RP, so that commit you reference, which looks like a fix at 1st glance... Feb 12 15:38:31 $ git describe --contains d9fe4fab11976e56b2e992980bf6ce948bdf Feb 12 15:38:31 v4.5-rc1~162^2~2 Feb 12 15:38:45 ...i.e. it won't be in 4.4.1 Feb 12 15:38:57 bambook: try doing 'git revert 5ce0b68788df55fe90fec274db29b176115fe882' in your meta-sourcery, then wipe tmp and try bitbake -c configure libtool-cross Feb 12 15:40:04 ....and I just checked gregKH's stable queue and it isn't in there (yet) either. Feb 12 15:40:10 kergoth: ok, I will try Feb 12 15:40:18 no surprise since it doesn't have a stable tag or "Fixes" tag. Feb 12 15:40:18 CTtpollard: or for a single file license check: http://pastebin.com/SQj4aEHn Feb 12 15:41:55 kergoth: BTW, I am using master branch Feb 12 15:41:55 paulg_: right, but I tried applying it anyway and it didn't help Feb 12 15:42:00 maxin: Yeh, I can batch upload to the server I want to use, so it's probably quicker that using oneshot-monk on a per file basis Feb 12 15:42:01 bambook: k, good Feb 12 15:42:54 RP, ah right; missed that important point. Feb 12 15:43:05 CTtpollard: agree :) Feb 12 15:43:21 RP fwiw I've built 4.4 for qemux86 yesterday (oe-core up to 9e0ee11a5) Feb 12 15:43:46 ant_home: did you run xorg-xserver on it though? Feb 12 15:43:59 nope Feb 12 15:44:17 I wonder if the splat is a red herring. Since untrack_pfn is void, the splat might not really do anything other than muddy dmesg. Feb 12 15:45:31 "nopat" on the qemu commandline also "fixes" this. That might be the best workaround yet Feb 12 15:45:48 ooh. I like that; at least for a day or two. Feb 12 15:47:25 paulg_: the dmesg looks non-fatal to me, however it has to be more than coincidence that xbkcomp then fails and X aborts Feb 12 15:47:59 particularly when nopat makes things "work" Feb 12 15:48:36 RP, found a thread where the xen ppl said they had to disable PAT. Feb 12 15:49:03 >>> The reason we get is b/c I had to disable the PAT functionality in Feb 12 15:49:03 >>> the Linux kernel for Xen. This is b/c it only worked one way - Feb 12 15:49:03 >>> meaning you could convert a page from Feb 12 15:49:03 >>> WriteBack to WriteCombine or WriteBack to Uncached. But you could Feb 12 15:49:03 >>> not Feb 12 15:49:03 >>> do WriteCombine back to WriteBack Feb 12 15:49:18 http://lists.xen.org/archives/html/xen-devel/2012-11/msg00908.html Feb 12 15:49:59 ...maybe sth similar is finally cropping up for qemu and "nopat" won't be a workaround but instead an actual solution. :) Feb 12 15:50:35 paulg_: I'm a bit sceptical... Feb 12 15:50:54 I was (for once in my life) trying to be optimistic. ;) Feb 12 15:53:24 paulg_: fair enough but I'm not entirely convinced ;-) Feb 12 16:36:19 Hello, I want to use dpkg to install some files. But the dpkg that I installed on the image doesnot have a list of installed packages in /var/lib/dpkg. How do I get yocto to generate them too? Feb 12 16:37:17 archer121: ensure that your IMAGE_FEATURES has package-management in, otherwise the package management database will be deleted after image construction Feb 12 16:37:45 rburton1: It is there, and PACKAGE_CLASSES = "package_deb" Feb 12 16:37:56 should work then Feb 12 16:38:10 to be honest, dpkg is the least-tested package class Feb 12 16:38:29 rburton1: I am redoing the bitbake Feb 12 16:58:29 paulg: making any headway on the qemu/4.4 issue? Do you want another set of eyes on it? Feb 12 17:16:54 https://github.com/VCTLabs/elc2016-presentations <= drafty hardened slides are mostly covered in fleshy bits now Feb 12 17:24:49 ewww Feb 12 17:38:15 . Feb 12 17:38:35 is a recipe available for build-essential? Feb 12 17:40:11 archer121: what do you actually want? Feb 12 17:40:25 a package you can install on the target to bring in gcc/make/cpp/etc? Feb 12 17:40:55 nerdboy: is elc2016 schedule out ? Feb 12 17:41:40 detailed schedule? nafaik... Feb 12 17:41:49 archer121: if so, packagegroup-core-sdk is fairly close Feb 12 17:41:55 rburton1: I have tools-sdk in extra-image-features, but dpkg in the live system is dailing due to build-essential not installed Feb 12 17:41:56 they're reviewing abstracts Feb 12 17:42:10 archer121: so when i said dpkg is the least tested i meant it Feb 12 17:42:16 * nerdboy jumped the gun and cranked out the slides already Feb 12 17:42:26 archer121: presumaby you're trying to build a source deb? Feb 12 17:43:13 nerdboy: ok Feb 12 17:43:29 rburton1: Yeah, I asked dpkg t override. My aim is is to install CUDA (Parallel processing NVIDIA GPU library) binaries. Feb 12 17:43:45 rburton1: Should I file a bug report somewhere? Feb 12 17:44:00 they come as a source dpkg that you need to build? Feb 12 17:44:32 well the obvious answer is build a package with bitbake and recipes instead of trying to use dpkg on the target image Feb 12 17:44:39 as dpkg -b isn't expected to work Feb 12 17:45:04 you could make a simple recipe based on build-essential, that's just a few minutes work Feb 12 17:45:05 * nerdboy apparently still fascinated with futzing .rst to make a presentation Feb 12 17:45:09 but it's the wrong solution to the problem Feb 12 17:45:34 but that is the correct approach. Feb 12 17:45:47 khem: Are you kraj? Feb 12 17:46:06 no, the correct approach to "i want these binaries in my image" is to write a recipe to package the binaries Feb 12 17:46:42 rburton1: Into a deb package, you mean? Feb 12 17:46:56 archer121: yes Feb 12 17:47:12 archer121: if you want to use debs, sure Feb 12 17:47:23 OE / YP is package neutral, so you 'I want these binaries in my package' then set the package type for your system.. (rpm, opkg or deb) Feb 12 17:47:47 khem: cool, I am using your BSP to build an image for my Nvidia Jetson. Feb 12 17:48:00 khem: Can I ask you some doubts? Feb 12 17:48:04 is it k1? Feb 12 17:49:03 rburton1: Is it possible to write a recipe to install debs? Feb 12 17:49:10 yes Feb 12 17:50:30 So since I have the debs from nvidia for the architecture, I will write recipes to install them. That should be the correct approach, right? Feb 12 17:51:31 archer121: yeah, just add the debs to SRC_URI and unpack/package them as appropriate. the bin_package class can help here. Feb 12 17:52:44 rburton1: Let me get busy then. So when I see a package with depends "build-essental", is it safe to ignore it? Feb 12 17:53:23 archer121: dont ask to ask just ask Feb 12 17:54:11 khem: Yeah, how did you flash? You used the scripts from nvidia right? Feb 12 17:55:13 archer121: yes Feb 12 17:56:25 khem: I just wanted to confirm that. I was worried if running the apply-binaries would do something wrong. Also how did install the cuda binaries? Feb 12 17:56:40 *something unwanted Feb 12 17:57:18 * nerdboy substituted gentoo stage3 Feb 12 17:57:45 if that works, then you should be fine... Feb 12 17:57:52 archer121: use this https://cyclicredundancy.wordpress.com/2014/05/10/flashing-the-rootfs-on-a-nvidia-jetson-tk1/ Feb 12 17:59:32 khem: I have flashed it, it's working great. I just need to enable cuda. Feb 12 18:00:03 archer121: ok Feb 12 18:01:13 khem: I think I got cuda working too. Feb 12 18:01:22 khem: Thanks for the BSP! Feb 12 18:04:54 http://wiki.baserock.org/guides/jetson-reset/ <= also handy Feb 12 18:14:53 archer121: yw Feb 12 18:15:25 khem: pardon me? Feb 12 18:16:55 khem: I get it. Feb 12 18:25:25 sgw_, I had to walk away from the qemu thing for now ; have an internal P1 that folks are all wound up about. :-/ Feb 12 19:08:27 I'm using the wic image builder class and it complained of not finding 'HDDDIR'. So, after hacking around, I found that I could set HDDDIR in my recipe to "tmp/work/sca325-poky-linux/wic-image-sca325/1.0-r0/wic-image-sca325-1.0/hdd/boot" and it would create my image from the .wks file I created. Feb 12 19:09:18 How do I set the HDDDIR path, given that I used? Are there vars such as PATH_TO_WIC_IMAGE or something? Feb 12 19:11:48 It appears that ${TOPDIR}/tmp/work/${MACHINE} are there, but what should be used for the wks file root name (wic-image-sca32)? Feb 12 19:25:37 So far, this seems to work: "${TMPDIR}/work/${MULTIMACH_TARGET_SYS}/wic-image-sca325/${PV}-${PR}/wic-image-sca325-${PV}/hdd/boot/" Feb 12 19:26:23 now to see how to get the root name of the wic-image-sca325, maybe try ${PN}? Feb 12 20:07:41 is RDEPENDS_${PN} not valid when it is in an include file? Feb 12 20:25:53 deviosity: perfectly valid Feb 12 20:30:24 rburton1: Thanks, I was finally playing around with package configs, and it looks like inheriting packagegroups, was the wrong way to include the newly defined packages I setup. Feb 12 20:31:09 i.e. in the custom image define. Pulling that out seems to have stop the QA error I was seeing with the RDEPENDS and RRECOMMENDS Feb 12 20:32:00 the packagegroup class is *only* for packagegroups Feb 12 20:32:17 yup, lesson learned. Feb 12 20:32:53 Hey, I am trying to get opencv 3.0 to work in an yocto build. For some reason, two static libraries seem to be missing: libopencv_ts.a and libopencv_hal.a. What could I have done wrong? Feb 12 20:33:25 are you including the dev package? Feb 12 20:33:27 archer121: static libs go into the -staticlibs package, did you check that? Feb 12 20:33:32 erm -staticdev Feb 12 20:33:52 ^^ what he said Feb 12 20:34:23 I don't quite understand, what am I to do? Feb 12 20:37:50 deviosity: I am including dev-pkgs, but am I supposed to include something more? Feb 12 21:09:03 rburton1: That was it, thanks. Feb 12 21:23:13 static libs are huge and stupid, use the shared libs :) Feb 12 21:35:56 Hey, I want to compile opencv with cuda. According to opencv docs, I am to set WITH_CUDA=ON cmake flag. Here is my recipe: https://github.com/daltonfury42/meta-yocto-jetson-mylayer/blob/master/recipes-opencv/opencv/opencv_3.0.bb Feb 12 21:37:01 I have made the change on line 28. Please tell me if this will work. I can't seem to compile programs with cuda after I do this. Feb 12 21:39:08 * nerdboy has a handy shared library building reference in the hardened slides Feb 12 21:42:02 http://people.redhat.com/drepper/dsohowto.pdf Feb 12 23:13:59 hmm, forgot, to build things static , we'd need to get --static passed to pkg-config calls too, to get the indirectly linked libs pulled in.. hmm Feb 13 00:55:13 is there someone familiar with angstrom? Feb 13 00:56:46 i'd suggest the angstrom channel. Feb 13 00:57:00 people are idle there... Feb 13 00:57:18 and less people too... so I tried here Feb 13 00:57:22 :-\ Feb 13 01:04:38 timezones. it's evening in the US, and the UK folks went to sleep hours ago Feb 13 02:39:08 Seekha: what questions do you have on angstrom **** ENDING LOGGING AT Sat Feb 13 02:59:58 2016