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Oct 09 06:38:44 <OutBackDingo> ok, is there a way to "add" packages to core-image-weston. or include alll from ccore-image-weston in a custom build ?
Oct 09 06:41:05 <OutBackDingo> or should i say inherit all of core-image-westoon into a custom image ?
Oct 09 07:04:47 <LetoThe2nd> OutBackDingo: the usual technique is to just take the core-image-weston.bb recipe, copy it to your layer maybe as my-image-weston.bb, and then start modifying it
Oct 09 07:05:41 <sven^> heya. I am having issues with installing the extended SDK because git fetch fails. I found this thread: https://lists.yoctoproject.org/pipermail/yocto/2018-August/042393.html which describes the exact problem but newer got a reply. How can I solve this?
Oct 09 07:07:45 <sven^> LetoThe2nd: wouldn't it be cleaner to create a bbappend?
Oct 09 07:09:59 <LetoThe2nd> sven^: while that is technically possible, in my experience that just doesn't work out for images as they tend to change over time, and you want them to be in a defined state - not depending on an underlying one.
Oct 09 07:10:13 <sven^> true
Oct 09 07:10:25 <LetoThe2nd> sven^: for a package recipe you would be right (in the common case, there are edge cases too of course)
Oct 09 07:12:08 <mckoan> good morning
Oct 09 07:12:16 <LetoThe2nd> mckoan: morning, yeah
Oct 09 07:14:00 <LetoThe2nd> mckoan: finally got travel permission for elce!
Oct 09 07:18:36 <OutBackDingo> LetoThe2nd: yeah... basically what i did... seems someone started down this pathh but it was incomplete
Oct 09 07:19:08 <OutBackDingo> anyway thanks for the sanity check
Oct 09 07:22:15 <OutBackDingo> lastly, is there an over ride rule for say two packages trying to write config data to the same path ?
Oct 09 07:22:51 <OutBackDingo> nginx by default has a default index.html in whhich a custom package we hhave wants to write ours
Oct 09 07:23:34 <OutBackDingo> it worked in rocko... but not in thud ....
Oct 09 07:24:12 <OutBackDingo> im also seeing it with udev riules
Oct 09 07:26:54 <OutBackDingo> guess i could hijack the nginxbb and ccreate my-nginx and just add my files to it
Oct 09 07:27:25 <OutBackDingo> instead of ading it as an depend... logical
Oct 09 07:28:40 <FrostEyes_P1> Hi folks. Had a small question yesterday without answer, so will just reformulate it.
Oct 09 07:28:43 <FrostEyes_P1> What is the “normal” way for handling layer license in a proprietary layer. Is it to remove the COPYING.MIT file and replace with either a COPYING or LICENSE file with the normal company boiler plate license stuff.
Oct 09 07:30:14 <FrostEyes_P1> I will currently just create a COPING file, so will just like to know if there was some kind of “best practice”, I can’t seem to find in documentation. (Properly not so important).
Oct 09 07:30:48 <sven^> so there is no way to make the extensible SDK installer use my ssh-agent?
Oct 09 07:52:39 <lukma> Good Morning,
Oct 09 07:52:56 <lukma> Is there a way to pass in OE/Yocto "--binary" switch to quilt?
Oct 09 07:53:22 <lukma> I'm trying to apply "tailored" patch , but
Oct 09 07:53:22 <lukma> (Stripping trailing CRs from patch; use --binary to disable.)
Oct 09 07:53:22 <lukma> Makes incompatible
Oct 09 07:56:04 <PinkSnake> Morning all :) Simple question; How to disable all about Qemu in Yocto ? any hint or advice to do that "properly" ?
Oct 09 07:56:45 <lukma> PinkSnake: What do you mean by "disable" qemu?
Oct 09 07:58:00 <PinkSnake> lukma: Hi, i don't care about qemu, and i don't want to build anything about that :) I have take a look to EXTRA_IMAGEDEPENDS_remove and INHERIT_remove but i don't know what's the best solution
Oct 09 08:01:26 <lukma> Side question -> why "quilt" is used by default? (PATCHTOOL variable) And not "git" nor "patch" ?
Oct 09 08:04:04 <lukma> PinkSnake: But Qemu will not be installed on the target system
Oct 09 08:05:01 <PinkSnake> lukma: yes i know that but i don't want to spend my time to build useless tool
Oct 09 08:10:03 <lukma> To the record (as discussed latter in the night) -> workaround to apply patch created from devtool (devtool finish) on Unix for a SW managed by git and developed on Windows
Oct 09 08:10:16 <lukma> convert the patch with unix2dos 0001-xxxx.patch
Oct 09 08:10:31 <lukma> in the recipe set PATCHTOOL = "git"
Oct 09 08:10:43 <lukma> git apparently doesn't have any issues with applying such patch
Oct 09 08:24:06 <mckoan> LetoThe2nd: good to know
Oct 09 09:02:36 <PinkSnake> some here knows how to set a protocol for all SR_URI with one setting in conf/local.conf for example because of our proxy server stop git protocol?
Oct 09 09:34:16 <OutBackDingo> LetoThe2nd: so that ideas not working
Oct 09 09:34:24 <OutBackDingo> ERROR: Nothing PROVIDES 'virtual/libgbm' (but /home/dingo/Wireless/Yocto/src/poky/meta/recipes-graphics/wayland/weston_5.0.0.bb DEPENDS on or otherwise requires it)
Oct 09 09:34:24 <OutBackDingo> mesa PROVIDES virtual/libgbm but was skipped: PREFERRED_PROVIDER_virtual/libgl set to mesa-gl, not mesa
Oct 09 09:35:12 <LetoThe2nd> OutBackDingo: well then set your preferred provider differently? that should be nothing more than a distro prolicy.
Oct 09 09:44:08 <OutBackDingo> LetoThe2nd: question is why does core-image-weston build without any policy, but simply adding it requires it
Oct 09 09:44:32 <OutBackDingo> i would think it would just build like it does notrrmally
Oct 09 09:45:02 <LetoThe2nd> OutBackDingo: chances are that one of your modifications just does not do what you expect. maybe just pastebin your new image recipe?
Oct 09 09:57:32 <OutBackDingo> LetoThe2nd: i simply created a recipes-core/images/core-image-my-weston.bb whhichh is a copy of  poky/meta/recipes-graphics/images/core-image-weston.bb https://pastebin.com/ZaXKPRHf
Oct 09 09:58:30 <OutBackDingo> so i would think bitbake core-image-my-weston would act the same as core-image-weston only adding my packages
Oct 09 09:58:51 <OutBackDingo> and including all of core-image-westoon
Oct 09 10:00:42 <yocti> New news from stackoverflow: Yocto glibc-locale do_package installed but not shipped in any package <https://stackoverflow.com/questions/41937565/yocto-glibc-locale-do-package-installed-but-not-shipped-in-any-package>
Oct 09 10:01:15 <LetoThe2nd> OutBackDingo: and in the completely same environment one image breaks, and one works? the contents od the image recipes is completely identical?
Oct 09 10:05:17 <OutBackDingo> LetoThe2nd: mmmm good point
Oct 09 10:05:30 <OutBackDingo> nope bitbake core-image-westoon has the same error
Oct 09 10:05:36 <OutBackDingo> grrrrrr
Oct 09 10:05:59 <LetoThe2nd> see?
Oct 09 10:06:10 <LetoThe2nd> guess you changed something in your distro/machine
Oct 09 10:06:14 <LetoThe2nd> anyways, lunch.
Oct 09 10:59:09 <xtron> hi all, I'm trying to label rootfs using a native utility (setfiles) by adding a class  (selinux-image.bbclass) in IMAGE_CLASSES, everything happens without errors but couldn't label the rootfs. other side when I execute command manually in terminal it works fine, I'm wondering, classes execute as fakeroot but unable to label the rootfs.. any idea?
Oct 09 11:48:10 <OutBackDingo> any recommended browsers for kiosk setups on weston ? midori ? firefox? something light weight
Oct 09 11:51:18 <LetoThe2nd> lynx?
Oct 09 11:51:34 <LetoThe2nd> (you didn't name a feture set, and lynx is probably most lightweight :-P )
Oct 09 11:51:55 <kuzulis> Hi guys. What is "SPL" abbreviature in Yocto's images?
Oct 09 11:52:35 <LetoThe2nd> kuzulis: not exactly yocto, more like uboot terminology. this usually is the 16kb first stage loader many boot strategies need.
Oct 09 11:53:18 <kuzulis> Ahh.. thanks
Oct 09 12:24:46 <rburton> OutBackDingo: epiphany is in oe-core and lightish
Oct 09 12:25:05 <rburton> web browsers don't really count as lightweight anymore
Oct 09 12:25:25 <rburton> if you need proper light, netsurf is an option
Oct 09 13:29:52 <JPEW> OutBackDingo: WPEWebKit is another option if you don't need all the browser trappings (e.g. history, URL bar, back button, etc.) but still need a full featured rendering engine. You can run it directly through the Kernel DRM without any windowing system too if you need
Oct 09 13:45:01 <OutBackDingo> JPEW: on a PI ?
Oct 09 13:45:36 <OutBackDingo> lynx LOL ... havent seen that word inn ages
Oct 09 13:45:57 <JPEW> OutBackDingo: Ya, maybe. As long as it supports the Kernel Direct Rendering Management API I think it would work
Oct 09 13:46:07 <JPEW> And OpenGL
Oct 09 13:46:23 <OutBackDingo> ACK no GL please :)
Oct 09 13:47:05 <JPEW> WebKit uses OpenGL (I doubt you can turn it off), but from expirence, you don't really have to worry about it, just provide the library
Oct 09 13:47:18 <OutBackDingo> LetoThe2nd: seems i got the environment sorted building the additional  weston image now
Oct 09 13:47:45 <OutBackDingo> 2 hour to rip out alot of unwise code doone by someone previously
Oct 09 13:49:18 <LetoThe2nd> OutBackDingo: TBH, 2hrs wasted is barely noticeable
Oct 09 13:59:01 <OutBackDingo> yeah the only thhing about large yocto builds is time :) need many cores
Oct 09 14:14:06 <cdleonard> stupid question time: why doesn't yocto use systemd-stable? https://github.com/systemd/systemd-stable/
Oct 09 14:14:37 <LetoThe2nd> cdleonard: in terms of?
Oct 09 14:19:14 <cdleonard> as in using v237-stable branch instead of v237 + some patches
Oct 09 14:47:51 <mcfrisk> is there some kind of a release note for yocto 2.5 sumo which I show off to managers?
Oct 09 14:50:11 <LetoThe2nd> mcfrisk: there is usually a kind of "migration/whats new document"
Oct 09 14:50:43 <rburton> cdleonard: feel free to send a patch to change
Oct 09 14:51:41 <mcfrisk> I wish downloads.yoctoproject.org/releases/yocto/yocto-2.5/RELEASENOTES would be a .txt or .html..
Oct 09 14:55:10 <LetoThe2nd> mcfrisk: hey you can't show a plaintext file to a manager :-P
Oct 09 15:07:57 <mrk377> I am porting from Jethro to Morty.  My rootfs is not being generated.  I am getting a prelinking error.  Any ideas:  ../poky-morty-build/build/tmp/sysroots/x86_64-linux/usr/sbin/prelink: /usr/sbin/.debug/zic: PT_INTERP segment not corresponding to .interp section
Oct 09 15:08:39 <mcfrisk> LetoThe2nd: web server says it's binary...
Oct 09 15:08:51 <rburton> mrk377: easy workaround: turn off prelinking
Oct 09 15:11:53 <mrk377> rburton: If prelinking fails, does it indicate issues.  It shows issues for about 14 files (zic, zdump, iconvconfig, sprof, rpcgen, pldd, pcprofiledump, makedb, locale, lddlibc4, iconv, getent, getconf, gencat)??
Oct 09 15:12:31 <rburton> mrk377: prelinking is notoriously fragile, its possible that the prelink in that release was a bit broken on whatever arch you're targetting
Oct 09 15:16:40 <mrk377> rburton: Oh.  Thanks.
Oct 09 15:17:34 <mrk377> This was helpful:  https://wiki.yoctoproject.org/wiki/TipsAndTricks/PrelinkSomePointersAndWorkarounds
Oct 09 15:21:21 <ak77> hello!, I see a lot of recipes do sed for @SBINDIR@, etc... I don't want to repeat that seds... is (e.g.) templatedirs.bbclass right aproach to provide single function
Oct 09 15:23:20 <ak77> I am also wondering why such functionality is not already present
Oct 09 15:26:33 <ak77> any clues?
Oct 09 16:24:40 <banach-space> Hiya! I've build my image inside a docker and now trying to run it, but "runqemu - ERROR - Acquiring lockfile /sbin/iptables cannot be executed.lock failed: [Errno 13] Permission denied: '/sbin/iptables cannot be executed.lock'". Not quite sure where to start. Thanks!
Oct 09 18:02:31 <mrk377> I am porting Jethro to Morty.  In jethro, I bitbake "my_recipe.bb" and then bitbake parted-native, then wic create my_directdisk.wks".  That works fine.  With Morty, it is failing the original bitbake "my_recipe.bb" under do_image_wic because it is trying to use the default "mkefidisk.wks".   QUESTION:  Can you IGNORE this do_image_wic for "my_recipe.bb"??
Oct 09 18:53:44 <mrk377> Digging into changes and Bug10501:  I set IMAGE_FSTYPES_remove = "wic" in my *.conf file.  Yocto is very flexible.  It's certainly has a learning curve if it's not your full-time job. ;)
Oct 09 19:43:59 <kergoth> you can set WKS_FILE to my_directdisk.wks instead
Oct 09 19:44:10 <kergoth> then you can use thewic image type instead of running it manually
Oct 09 19:50:24 <fancer> folks, is it possible create an embedded into eSDK mirror with packages? like its done for ordinary builds  with setting SOURCE_MIRROR_URL and INHERIT += "own-mirrors".
Oct 09 19:55:13 <mrk377> kergoth:  Is that better for supportability later?
Oct 09 19:55:47 <kergoth> that's really up to you, whether you want to perform those steps with bitbake or external scripting
Oct 09 20:46:05 <uglyoldbob> I have a recipe that provides multiple packages. I want blabla-bla to provide an alternative target for x-session-manager. How would I do that?
Oct 09 21:09:30 <rburton> uglyoldbob: using update-alternatives.  see the matchbox-session recipe for a literal example of x-session-manager
Oct 09 21:09:49 <uglyoldbob> rburton: thank you
Oct 09 21:10:39 <rburton> the manual covers this too
Oct 09 22:03:00 <yocti> New news from stackoverflow: How to include git revision of image layer in boot output or /etc/issue? <https://stackoverflow.com/questions/52729727/how-to-include-git-revision-of-image-layer-in-boot-output-or-etc-issue>
Oct 10 00:00:14 <khem> zeddii: ping
Oct 10 00:41:13 <armpit> khem, he may be out for Canada's thanks giving
Oct 10 00:43:35 <khem> ugh
Oct 10 00:43:45 <khem> cross-canadians
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