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Apr 02 06:13:16 <yocti> New news from stackoverflow: Yocto - Files/directories were installed but not shipped in any package <https://stackoverflow.com/questions/49748528/yocto-files-directories-were-installed-but-not-shipped-in-any-package>
Apr 02 11:24:02 <rburton> khem: good news: by removing my host docbook-xml i can also make asciidoc fail
Apr 02 12:30:52 <RP> rburton: its nice when things reproduce
Apr 02 12:31:00 <rburton> bad news
Apr 02 12:31:07 <rburton> RAZOR WIRE OF BEES
Apr 02 12:31:14 <rburton> ARGH THEY STING
Apr 02 12:31:59 <RP> rburton: https://xkcd.com/797/ ? :)
Apr 02 12:32:22 <RP> (you reminded me of the mouseover)
Apr 02 12:53:22 <rburton> haha
Apr 02 12:54:10 <rburton> RP: why can't postinsts be run for native stuff on install eh
Apr 02 12:56:12 <RP> rburton: er, which postinsts? native stuff isn't packaged. The sstate postinsts are run
Apr 02 12:56:45 <JPEW> RP: Yes, thats fine. Thanks
Apr 02 14:57:36 <sjolley_> YPTM is on zoom bridge at: (https://zoom.us/j/990892712)
Apr 02 14:57:44 <sjolley_> YPTM: Stephen Joined
Apr 02 14:59:21 <vmeson> YPTM: Randy MacLeod joined.
Apr 02 15:00:37 <JPEW_> YPTM: Joshua Watt here
Apr 02 15:00:56 <RP> YPTM: Richard joined
Apr 02 15:01:02 <halstead> YPTM: Michael joined.
Apr 02 15:01:08 <RP> Google doc for the meeting: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1CNEKA4d0eT6-e0hnS2pwi7xdZ5_t6smpZO2HbaJGXbU/
Apr 02 15:02:13 <sjolley_> YPTM: Google doc for meeting minutes: https://drive.google.com/open?id=1Y5IIuE-z0Ykdl-DwuzUJh52flOZuhN_TSAfw2tdU9pg
Apr 02 15:03:59 <dreyna> YPTM: David joined
Apr 02 15:07:30 <zeddii> I'm on hotel wifi in Thailand .. so I'm pretty much listen only!
Apr 02 15:07:57 <zeddii> but if it is working from jonmason. I suppose it should work for me :D
Apr 02 15:10:28 * zeddii clicks on the document
Apr 02 15:12:18 <jonmason> zeddii: its working okay for me
Apr 02 15:12:25 <jonmason> but I'm on the 37th floor
Apr 02 15:14:20 <paulbarker> Can't hop on the call right now but that list of ideas for 2.8 looks good :)
Apr 02 15:14:47 <Crofton> lolz
Apr 02 15:15:36 * zeddii is on the 35 floor. terrible wifi here :D
Apr 02 15:16:01 <jonmason> Crofton: you on the call?
Apr 02 15:16:09 <Crofton> Maybe you should go to jonmason room
Apr 02 15:16:10 <Crofton> no
Apr 02 15:16:20 * Crofton is allergic to telecons, read minutes
Apr 02 15:16:54 <jonmason> Crofton: talking about binary package feeds
Apr 02 15:17:57 <paulbarker> Actually I can push back the other thing on my todo list
Apr 02 15:34:11 <cdgarren> I'm trying to add a recipe for a python module, and the maintainer doesn't distribute their license in their tar ball. It is on his github, so I'm trying to download it separately in order to get the license checksum. Does that seem like the right way to make this work?
Apr 02 15:36:04 <paulbarker> cdgarren: What's the python module? They really should be distributing license text
Apr 02 15:36:36 <cdgarren> paulbarker: pymodbus. I agree, and was planning to submit an issue for it, but I need to get around it in the mean time.
Apr 02 15:40:47 <kergoth> downloading the terms separately is probably best. do they mention what the license *is* in the source, at least, even if they don't ship the actual license terms?
Apr 02 15:40:49 * kergoth yawns
Apr 02 15:44:15 <rburton> cdgarren: if a bit of the source says the license then you can checksum that
Apr 02 15:44:57 <kergoth> indeed
Apr 02 15:45:57 <rburton> why oh why doesn't make have a simple 'print timestamp when running a command' button
Apr 02 15:55:41 <kergoth> maybe remake's tracing flags support it? not sure offhand
Apr 02 15:56:49 <kergoth> http://bashdb.sourceforge.net/remake/  https://www.usenix.org/legacy/event/lisa11/tech/full_papers/Bernstein.pdf
Apr 02 15:56:54 <kergoth> hmm, not seeing timestamp as an option though
Apr 02 15:59:56 <sjolley_> YPTM is over.
Apr 02 16:05:58 <kergoth> rburton: youc ould use a tool to just suffix every line in the output with a timestamp, or you could use the SHELL hack for minimal target tracing seen at http://www.drdobbs.com/tools/debugging-makefiles/197003338?pgno=3 if you add date to it
Apr 02 16:05:59 <cdgarren> rburton: Theres a file called PKG-INFO that has a line "License: BSD"
Apr 02 16:06:11 <kergoth> ugh, that's less than helpful. *which* BSD?
Apr 02 16:06:44 <kergoth> huh, https://github.com/paypal/gnomon is rather cool
Apr 02 16:10:30 <rburton> kergoth: neat
Apr 02 16:10:46 <rburton> cdgarren: point at that line
Apr 02 16:10:52 <rburton> (until they ship a proper license)
Apr 02 16:16:18 <cdgarren> rburton: Thanks
Apr 02 16:23:22 <RP> hmm, I wonder what I should be doing with meta-qt4 and meta-qt3 on the autobuilder :/
Apr 02 16:25:31 <fray> are they no longer working, and is nobody actively fixing issues?  I'd be tempted to day they're broken and stop testing them until someone steps up
Apr 02 16:25:37 <fray> (I know easier said then done)
Apr 02 16:31:32 <RP> fray: more the complexities about how older releases need them but we don't support them in newer ones and how that interacts with the system
Apr 02 16:32:22 <Crofton> fray ++
Apr 02 16:36:46 <JaMa> it's almost time to start meta-qt6 :)
Apr 02 16:37:49 <Crofton> yeah
Apr 02 16:38:12 <Crofton> unless we have maintainers for things like that, we need to let them go
Apr 02 17:07:04 <RP> Crofton: its the mechanics of how to make the autobuilder do this
Apr 02 17:07:52 <Crofton> make it stop doing things?
Apr 02 17:08:08 <RP> Crofton: all things?
Apr 02 17:08:19 <Crofton> well specific things :)
Apr 02 17:08:34 <Crofton> I assum eyou mean do different things on a per release basis?
Apr 02 17:08:48 <RP> yes, that is the hard part in generic code
Apr 02 17:09:05 <Crofton> needs to be more generic :)
Apr 02 20:06:05 <RP> moto-timo: dare I mention warrior eclipse branches? :/
Apr 02 20:06:36 <RP> well, I clearly dare, I'm just not sure what you'll throw at me... :)
Apr 02 20:07:08 <RP> zeddii: I doubt you're awake but I'll need your defconfig magic for https://bugzilla.yoctoproject.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13234
Apr 02 20:07:09 <yocti> Bug 13234: normal, High, 2.7 M4, kexin.hao, NEW , [2.7 M3 RC1] qemumips & qemumips64: failed to shutdown
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