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Apr 10 03:42:51 <alimon> RP: hi
Apr 10 03:57:41 <alimon> RP: I use an IRC server message cache so feel free to write, I can take a look when I connected again
Apr 10 05:06:25 <OutBackDingo> okay... ill ask again.... seems both python and python3 are being installed in my thid image... curious why...
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Apr 10 07:17:27 <yocti> New news from stackoverflow: Building gstreamer using Yocto <https://stackoverflow.com/questions/32964257/building-gstreamer-using-yocto>
Apr 10 07:47:32 <yocti> New news from stackoverflow: FIle is not being copied in WORKDIR from Image recipe in Yocto <https://stackoverflow.com/questions/55606847/file-is-not-being-copied-in-workdir-from-image-recipe-in-yocto>
Apr 10 08:14:12 <OutBackDingo> ok how can i override
Apr 10 08:15:35 <OutBackDingo> u-boot to use my boot.cmd in a u-boot_%.bbappend when u-boot includes its own
Apr 10 08:16:03 <OutBackDingo> i tried SRC_URI_append
Apr 10 08:20:41 <LetoThe2nd> OutBackDingo: check with bitbake -e if things actually do what you expect
Apr 10 08:22:23 <OutBackDingo> LetoThe2nd: its using its default boot.cmd and not mine
Apr 10 09:36:48 <lastaid> hey, i've added  IMAGE_INSTALL_append = " libsdl2" to my local.conf, but i cannot find libsdl in my /usr/lib
Apr 10 09:36:53 <lastaid> do i have to add anything elese
Apr 10 09:36:54 <lastaid> ?
Apr 10 09:38:53 <LetoThe2nd> usually not.
Apr 10 09:39:07 <LetoThe2nd> where did you add that? have you checked that it actually is in effect?
Apr 10 09:39:27 <LetoThe2nd> -> the image manifest file tells you if the package really got installed, for example
Apr 10 11:51:55 <cyrilfr> hi there
Apr 10 11:52:17 <cyrilfr> I enabled IPK package format for my image
Apr 10 11:52:42 <cyrilfr> but no Packages.gz files are generated for the "opkg update" command
Apr 10 11:53:14 <cyrilfr> .ipk have been correctly generated
Apr 10 11:53:41 <cyrilfr> it used to work on sumo and now I'm on thud branch
Apr 10 11:56:11 <cyrilfr> I simply set PACKAGE_CLASSES ?= "package_ipk" in my local.conf
Apr 10 11:56:31 <cyrilfr> and add package-management to IMAGE_FEATURES
Apr 10 12:00:27 <cyrilfr> in my opkg.conf I have lines like "src/gz all source-url"
Apr 10 12:01:55 <cyrilfr> like here: https://www.yoctoproject.org/docs/2.6.1/dev-manual/dev-manual.html#runtime-package-management-target-ipk
Apr 10 12:02:40 <cyrilfr> but no .gz file are beeing generated by BitBake :/
Apr 10 12:06:37 <lastaid> i have written a service for sysv. when starting it over commandline it works
Apr 10 12:06:48 <lastaid> when i reboot it does not
Apr 10 12:07:33 <lastaid> never mind
Apr 10 12:07:47 <lastaid> it does fail
Apr 10 12:08:12 <lastaid> qt.qpa.plugin: Could not find the Qt platform plugin "xcb" in ""
Apr 10 12:08:26 <lastaid> but only when started by sysv
Apr 10 12:10:18 <lastaid> is there any dependency i should be aware of?
Apr 10 12:12:50 <LetoThe2nd> lastaid: i guess its rather some environment variable not being set
Apr 10 12:13:44 <lastaid> ok
Apr 10 12:50:25 <RP> alimon: basically I'm wondering about the patches in http://git.yoctoproject.org/cgit.cgi/poky/commit/?id=65b37734c7350443957dcb7d8f299d384d5aaa8c
Apr 10 12:50:45 <RP> kanavin: python3 is still timing out on the autobuilder and I don't know why :(
Apr 10 12:51:05 <RP> kanavin: I increased the timeout and it didn't help and the logs don't make sense
Apr 10 12:57:05 <cyrilfr> I found bitbake index-packages
Apr 10 13:18:44 <mckoan> cyrilfr: and now is it created?
Apr 10 13:20:02 <cyrilfr> yes
Apr 10 13:20:37 <mckoan> mcfrisk: nice
Apr 10 13:20:44 <mckoan> cyrilfr: nice
Apr 10 13:44:58 <kanavin> RP: I can fetch the latest master and try with that, it is possible that some other test needs blacklisting
Apr 10 13:45:09 <kanavin> RP: any word from the kernel folks?
Apr 10 14:03:12 <RP> kanavin: nothing from them :(
Apr 10 14:04:00 <RP> kanavin: I'd appreciate any help as it has my stumped. It appears to hang somewhere in test_ssl but when I have it run standalone it doesn't
Apr 10 14:04:24 <RP> kanavin: only thing I'm now wondering about is some kind of special terminal handling causing problems when not run interactively
Apr 10 14:04:24 <kanavin> RP: yeah, I am building an image just now
Apr 10 14:05:09 <kanavin> RP: if test_ssl is doing socket stuff, might be the same thing. let me get to a runtime.
Apr 10 14:05:40 <RP> kanavin: test_ssl works fine in about 18s. I might want to try that under ptest runner (alone), see if that helps
Apr 10 14:06:08 <RP> kanavin: note I have a few wip patches in warrior-next for various timeouts/test disabling and the -W -> -v thing
Apr 10 14:06:33 * RP is going to get some exercise in the afternoon sun and come back to it with fresh eyes
Apr 10 14:07:43 <kanavin> RP: right, actually I might go for a ride too now, will look at it later. I should have free time tomorrow as well.
Apr 10 14:17:29 <LetoThe2nd> RP: howdy! as we're getting the streaming things started can you spare a couple of minutes some time the next few days to do a small test run?
Apr 10 16:05:13 <seebs> okay, so, i came up with a trivial test case for the .NET hangs (blocking open), and tried a fix, and it... worked, I think? It doesn't hang that way anymore.
Apr 10 16:05:40 <seebs> 3fa7c853, aka pseudo master, now has that, but I'd appreciate some real testing on it before we assume it's safe.
Apr 10 16:07:55 <alimon> RP: LGTM, only a comment, I think in the first patch, fflush(fps[1]); isn't needed because before i redirect stderr to stdout when create the pipe
Apr 10 18:47:22 <LetoThe2nd> anybody around at the moment?
Apr 10 18:49:43 <LetoThe2nd> i would need a test victim for like 5 minutes or so
Apr 10 18:54:04 <Crofton> I suppose
Apr 10 18:54:11 <Crofton> since I know you are doing good things
Apr 10 18:54:39 <LetoThe2nd> Crofton: indeed
Apr 10 18:55:37 <LetoThe2nd> Crofton: can you head over to https://www.twitch.tv/yocto_project please?
Apr 10 18:55:56 <Crofton> ofline?
Apr 10 18:56:07 <Crofton> will I need to log in?
Apr 10 18:56:07 <LetoThe2nd> prefereably, of course!
Apr 10 18:56:16 <LetoThe2nd> and make sure to bring booze
Apr 10 18:56:26 <Crofton> cough medecine
Apr 10 18:57:42 <LetoThe2nd> you there?
Apr 10 18:57:56 <Crofton> I am not logged in though
Apr 10 18:58:03 <LetoThe2nd> thats fine.
Apr 10 18:58:19 <Crofton> yep I hear you
Apr 10 18:58:35 <Crofton> this is jsut ah a few times
Apr 10 18:58:40 <Crofton> ah yes the echoes
Apr 10 18:58:43 <Crofton> use a headset
Apr 10 18:58:47 <Crofton> YEp
Apr 10 18:58:55 <Crofton> nuts
Apr 10 18:59:09 <Crofton> try again?
Apr 10 18:59:12 <Crofton> sounds OK
Apr 10 18:59:18 <Crofton> yes
Apr 10 18:59:26 <Crofton> 123
Apr 10 18:59:33 <Crofton> right
Apr 10 18:59:46 <Crofton> pretty good
Apr 10 18:59:54 <Crofton> you shoudl "German"
Apr 10 19:00:01 <Crofton> you are good
Apr 10 19:00:04 <Crofton> sound
Apr 10 19:00:09 <fray> working here..
Apr 10 19:00:34 <Crofton> hello slide
Apr 10 19:00:59 <fray> twitch is a good way to do interactive things with community -- dunno about business, since a lot of places might have twitch blocked..
Apr 10 19:01:07 <Crofton> aaaahhhhhh
Apr 10 19:01:09 <Crofton> it burns
Apr 10 19:01:54 <fray> you have twitch chat up
Apr 10 19:02:01 <fray> the terminal window is REALLY tiny font
Apr 10 19:02:03 <Crofton> he does
Apr 10 19:02:18 <Crofton> I see nothing in window
Apr 10 19:02:34 <Crofton> small text maybe
Apr 10 19:02:36 <fray> only thing I see is a window that says sepp@jhozmayr:~ 210x98
Apr 10 19:02:42 <fray> nothing is being updated
Apr 10 19:03:32 <fray> ok.. terminal just showed up..
Apr 10 19:03:53 <fray> do you have a delay enabled in OBS?
Apr 10 19:04:09 <fray> would be better if the font was larger..
Apr 10 19:04:09 <Crofton> I need to go full screen
Apr 10 19:04:16 <fray> I can read it, but have to make the screen very large
Apr 10 19:07:02 <Crofton> I was waiting for it
Apr 10 19:07:18 <Crofton> I think having a beer would make it seem easier
Apr 10 19:07:49 <Crofton> Can you archive this?
Apr 10 19:08:21 <fray> vod s are usually archived automagically
Apr 10 19:08:28 * fray goes back to watching rifftrax
Apr 10 19:09:16 <LetoThe2nd> Crofton: yes it should be archived and accessible for replay, but i'll make sure that this one... vanishes
Apr 10 19:09:26 <Crofton> of course
Apr 10 19:10:39 <fray> I suggest if you do this for real, you have a mod to remove offensive content, or at least setup a bot to do it..
Apr 10 19:10:50 <LetoThe2nd> fray: i don't have any specifc emotes or chat moderation activated by now, as my impression is yocto folks want to keep it as serious as possible
Apr 10 19:11:04 <LetoThe2nd> yet easily accessible
Apr 10 19:11:05 <fray> twitch gets some nasty people in the corners and it requires active moderating
Apr 10 19:11:48 <fray> big problem is if you get an asshole in there, twitch can block the channel if nobody makes an attempt to moderate..
Apr 10 19:11:53 <LetoThe2nd> fray: yeah i know. but is this needed like always, or only during streaming? i hope the latter?
Apr 10 19:12:16 <fray> during streaming.. there isn't much you can do otherwise..
Apr 10 19:12:35 <fray> active channels usually have bots auto moderating all the time, but for this channel, that likely won't be necessary..
Apr 10 19:12:48 <fray> and I havn't heard of twitch being mad at streamers for what people do when they're not streaming
Apr 10 19:12:49 <LetoThe2nd> fray: well, RP and ndec mostly "volunteered" to be around and working the chat while i stream
Apr 10 19:13:03 <LetoThe2nd> so once they have their account set up they shall become mods
Apr 10 19:13:21 <fray> ya.. I'm around as well if you want..  I've not modded before.. but I use twitch a lot so I know what to do
Apr 10 19:13:33 <LetoThe2nd> fray: you're booked.
Apr 10 19:14:43 <LetoThe2nd> fray: i cranked up the automod filters quite a bit now
Apr 10 19:15:45 <LetoThe2nd> fray: and would add you as a mod if you don't mind
Apr 10 19:15:56 <fray> go ahead..
Apr 10 19:16:07 <fray> talking to some mods (in higher profile channels) to get some quick pointers
Apr 10 19:16:44 <LetoThe2nd> fray: cool! i'm actually not a big twitch user, just for corner cases, but thought its a tool we could try to leverage
Apr 10 19:17:19 <fray> Twitch has replaced my TV watching nearly 90% at this point..
Apr 10 19:17:30 <fray> I've spent WAY too much money subbing to channels, and related
Apr 10 19:18:09 <Crofton> what do you watch there?
Apr 10 19:18:10 <LetoThe2nd> heh then you're way more competent than i am. so when will you start spreading yocto goodness there? :P
Apr 10 19:18:55 <fray> right now, rifftrax.. but I watch a bunch of variety gamers..  (mostly aussies for some reason)..  Loserfruit, BazzaGazza, Crayator, NovaaBerries.. Scottish streamer - Lucy...
Apr 10 19:19:13 <fray> Fortnite, GTA V RP, OSRS, and random games..
Apr 10 19:19:27 <fray> ohh and 'TheAmericanPigeon' he's a drummer.. takes requests..
Apr 10 19:19:34 <fray> (only RiffTrax is live right now)
Apr 10 19:19:51 <fray> (RiffTrax is like MST3k if you didn't know)
Apr 10 19:20:03 <LetoThe2nd> i have never heard of any of there.
Apr 10 19:20:05 <fray> "Familes: Earning and Spending" is currently on..  :)
Apr 10 19:20:29 <fray> this is a movie that they'd played in school from 1976.. but these guys make fun of it as it goes on..
Apr 10 19:20:46 <LetoThe2nd> hrhr
Apr 10 19:21:10 <LetoThe2nd> i'm just trying to find out where twitch might have archived that test
Apr 10 19:21:26 <fray> would be under videos
Apr 10 19:21:53 <fray> but you don't have any videos.. so you might not have vod enabled by default..
Apr 10 19:22:32 <LetoThe2nd> yeah seems like its not enabled (yet)
Apr 10 19:23:05 <fray> ya, streamers I know of have it enabled -- but they're at least affiliates so they make money from it
Apr 10 19:23:47 <LetoThe2nd> heh if YP would be making money on twitch, we should be seriously reconsidering our objectives
Apr 10 19:36:31 <LetoThe2nd> fray, kergoth: funny how we got the attendees reversed, basically. instead of guiding new people from twitch to here, we have guided you two from here to the twitch yccount
Apr 10 19:37:08 <kergoth> heh :)
Apr 10 19:38:19 <LetoThe2nd> first real stream is slated for 23th, 17:00 CEST, by the way. feel free to recalculate your corresponging timezone :)
Apr 10 19:43:03 <LetoThe2nd> anyways i'll call it a day. thanks for the help!
Apr 10 20:15:59 <mrk377> Quick question:  I have several ROOTFS_POSTPROCESS_COMMAND functions.  I don't see an environment variable for $(IMAGE_ROOTFS}/lib/modules/(THE_KERNEL_DIRECTORY?).  Is there a variable for the kernel modules directory at the ROOTFS_POSTPROCESS_COMMAND stage?
Apr 10 20:17:04 <mrk377> I browsed through the bitbake -e and found nothing.
Apr 10 20:18:02 <voyo> hi, my hddimage is building with syslinux, but I'd like it to be based on grub. How to change it ?
Apr 10 20:25:30 <voyo> and actually how to re-create my *.hddimage file ?? :/
Apr 10 20:31:55 <voyo> looks like 'bitbake my-image --clear-stamp=image' did the job
Apr 10 20:32:17 <voyo> but question about replacing syslinx with grub remains...
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