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Nov 15 03:33:43 <ionstorm> I got a sick idea for an app that shouldnt be too hard to make
Nov 15 03:34:00 <spikebike> shoot
Nov 15 03:34:09 <ionstorm> call gestures - example: when you recieve a call you could turn your phone over to hang up
Nov 15 03:34:15 <ionstorm> certain movements handle calls
Nov 15 03:34:37 <ionstorm> or do certain tasks
Nov 15 03:34:52 <romainguy___> you must be the first one to think about it :)
Nov 15 03:34:52 <ionstorm> like quick reply for a sms/mail
Nov 15 03:35:06 <ionstorm> really?
Nov 15 03:35:16 <ionstorm> what do u think
Nov 15 03:35:19 <romainguy___> that was sarcasm :)
Nov 15 03:35:22 <ionstorm> lol
Nov 15 03:36:42 <spikebike> heh
Nov 15 03:36:59 <spikebike> saw an alarm clock, turn over for snooze
Nov 15 03:36:59 <ionstorm> it would be funny to see people move their phone around certain ways in public lol
Nov 15 03:37:01 <spikebike> shake for off
Nov 15 03:37:20 <ionstorm> which one is that
Nov 15 03:37:39 <spikebike> bonsai blast uses motions
Nov 15 03:37:48 <spikebike> and I've made them in public ;-)
Nov 15 03:37:56 <ionstorm> lol
Nov 15 03:46:05 <gambler> androidjavadoc.com is a lifesaver
Nov 15 03:46:21 <spikebike> sweet good to kno
Nov 15 03:46:55 <gambler> 2 clicks less on avg
Nov 15 06:53:20 <ttuttle> good evening
Nov 15 08:24:03 <jasta> yawn
Nov 15 08:25:43 <muthu_> whatsup jasta
Nov 15 08:25:49 <muthu_> how you been?
Nov 15 08:25:56 <jasta> good, doing a lot of coding
Nov 15 08:26:04 <muthu_> yeah, can see that ;)
Nov 15 08:26:10 <muthu_> you been quite lately
Nov 15 08:26:26 <muthu_> any projects released?
Nov 15 08:27:13 <jasta> nothing too official
Nov 15 08:27:34 <muthu_> ok
Nov 15 08:28:30 <languish> My wife wants to set up Five
Nov 15 08:28:37 <languish> This should be interesting
Nov 15 08:28:44 <languish> :)
Nov 15 08:29:51 <jasta> does anyone know the recommendation approach to adding new media to the MediaStore provider?  should i Use MediaScannerCollection#scanFile() or just insert the meta data myself?
Nov 15 08:30:22 <jasta> i guess it must be better to call scanFile
Nov 15 08:30:41 * jasta reads the source :)
Nov 15 08:30:47 <jasta> i love that this is possible now hehe
Nov 15 08:31:46 <languish> I have to say, it's helping my novice self quite a bit.
Nov 15 08:34:50 <languish> I was looking for how this worked earlier.  Is this what you meant?  http://stackoverflow.com/questions/230643/android-api-for-detecting-new-media-from-inbuilt-camera-mic
Nov 15 08:35:08 <languish> ignore the camera part of it
Nov 15 08:35:23 <languish> scroll to the last response
Nov 15 08:35:24 <jasta> no
Nov 15 08:35:47 <jasta> thats not what i was asking about :)
Nov 15 08:35:49 <muthu_> yeah, the source is great help
Nov 15 08:35:49 <languish> 'k. *shuts up*
Nov 15 08:35:54 <languish> :)
Nov 15 08:36:00 <jasta> languish: i'm doing the opposite, i'm adding to the media store.
Nov 15 08:36:14 <jasta> when five commits a cached entry, it adds for other systems to consume
Nov 15 08:36:25 <languish> ah
Nov 15 08:57:45 <jasta> hmm, that's interesting.  it detected no meta data.
Nov 15 09:37:54 <digitalspaghetti> anyone know if G1 has a comic book reader app?
Nov 15 09:41:41 <languish> cdisplay for android? lol. nope haven't seen one yet
Nov 15 09:41:55 <languish> one panel at a time :/
Nov 15 09:42:04 <languish> large panels may pose a problem..
Nov 15 09:42:26 <digitalspaghetti> yea, but you can just zoom around them
Nov 15 09:42:29 <languish> scrolling..scrolling..scrolling down the storyline..
Nov 15 09:42:57 <digitalspaghetti> it's not pefrect, but better than taking a laptop on the bus, even if it is an acer aspire one
Nov 15 09:43:47 <languish> hey I'm all for it. I can see how random comic point of contention debates could easily be resolved with a quick "I got this guys"
Nov 15 09:43:57 <languish> :|
Nov 15 09:44:32 <languish> Maybe even make a server component for it, that allows you to browse your home collection remotely.
Nov 15 09:44:42 <languish> ^_^
Nov 15 09:45:59 <digitalspaghetti> hehe, that would rock :)
Nov 15 09:46:19 <digitalspaghetti> http://johnwilker.com/2008/09/effectiveui-rd-project-android-comic-reader/
Nov 15 09:46:27 <digitalspaghetti> looks like nothing released though :(
Nov 15 09:46:46 <languish> Next, google will have to work on a comic book standard and android comic api. Comic boxes must be drawn within 320x480 boundaries!
Nov 15 09:47:18 <languish> or 640x40 and use the desktop background to display them, hiding all other icons!
Nov 15 09:47:45 <languish> 640x480
Nov 15 09:47:58 <languish> so we can scroll from left to right
Nov 15 09:48:58 <languish> actually, designing a comic series standard tailored to portable devices might be cool
Nov 15 09:51:24 <digitalspaghetti> yea, when the PSP came out i tried my hand at it
Nov 15 09:51:34 <digitalspaghetti> not a comic, but a magazine
Nov 15 09:51:58 <digitalspaghetti> was for the podcast that i did at the time
Nov 15 12:18:01 <jammr> how would I go about converting a string to a resource pointer?
Nov 15 17:31:41 <Disconnect> has anyone got a simple example of starting a new activity from a button-click? i don't (yet) need to pass it anything, or get anything back, i just need to switch screens (and come back when that screen bails or user hits back)
Nov 15 17:31:48 <Disconnect> i'm getting null pointers during startup, clearly something is very wrong.
Nov 15 17:41:34 <tauno> Disconnect, call "startActivity(new Intent(this, NewActivity.class));" ?
Nov 15 17:44:11 <Disconnect> getting 'cannot be resolved' on com.foo.android.mainApp.newWindow but i have a newWindow class inside newWindow.java :/
Nov 15 17:44:22 <Disconnect> i think i'm not clear enough on java namespacing :)
Nov 15 17:45:16 <Disconnect> i was working from http://code.google.com/android/kb/commontasks.html#opennewscreen
Nov 15 17:47:52 <tauno> did you declare your com.foo.android.mainApp.newWindow in the manifest?
Nov 15 17:51:29 <Disconnect> according to eclipse there is a newWindow with name 'newWindow' and everything else defaulted/blank
Nov 15 17:55:53 <Disconnect> its got <activity android:name="newWindow"></activity> in the xml
Nov 15 17:59:10 <tauno> use .newWindow instead
Nov 15 18:02:01 <tauno> did it help?
Nov 15 18:02:07 <tauno> Disconnect, ?
Nov 15 18:02:30 <Disconnect> still arguing with it.
Nov 15 18:03:17 <Disconnect> so i want <manifest ..> <application ../application><activity> or does activity live inside the application?
Nov 15 18:04:58 <tauno> inside
Nov 15 18:08:28 <Disconnect> so i've got startActivity(new Intent(this,newWindow.class)) and <activity android:name=".newWindow"></activity> ..
Nov 15 18:15:37 <Disconnect> yah this is driving me nuts. http://pastebin.ca/1257073 and its gone back to giving me nullpointer errors on the setOnClickListener line
Nov 15 18:15:41 <tauno> and it still won't work?
Nov 15 18:17:14 <tauno> do setContentView(R.layout.main); before findViewById
Nov 15 18:17:41 <tauno> (I hope I don't give false advise here :P )
Nov 15 18:18:08 <Disconnect> trying it now (although there are other findViewById calls - populate edittext and such - above that and they work :) ..)
Nov 15 18:18:16 <tauno> ah ok
Nov 15 18:18:21 <tauno> my fault then :P
Nov 15 18:19:01 <Disconnect> hmmmm. that works but blows up in the new class. this may be a fix :)
Nov 15 18:19:15 <Disconnect> yah that fixed it :) awesome :)
Nov 15 18:19:53 <Disconnect> (same crash in the new window, so moving setContentView up and trying again)
Nov 15 18:20:26 <Disconnect> awesome that fixed it :) :) thanks!
Nov 15 18:21:07 <tauno> ah.. indeed.. I need some sleep.. of course you have to set the content view before you get anythin other than null from findViewById..
Nov 15 18:22:11 <tauno> I need more sleep I guess :)
Nov 15 18:22:13 <Disconnect> thats weird, i swear it was working before :) (just did nothing with the newWindow button) and i'm pretty sure the examples run that way
Nov 15 18:22:24 <Disconnect> but i don't care, its fixed and i'm having a better day now :)
Nov 15 19:00:51 <Disconnect> hahaha. you know whats good? not having cut&paste errors that map saveBtn.onclick to finish() instead of cancelBtn
Nov 15 19:41:07 <Disconnect> now i'm back to my db problems :(
Nov 15 21:11:33 <f00bar80> suppose i do have a multithreaded chat application , what i do exactly needs to implement it in android , i'm already using the sdk in eclipse
Nov 15 21:11:53 <Disconnect> the good news is, mostly just the display stuff. the bad news is, thats a lot :)
Nov 15 21:13:47 <f00bar80> ppl any comment , am i off-topic
Nov 15 21:42:29 <f00bar80> hello anybody there
Nov 15 21:50:56 <f00bar80> this code is working http://www.anddev.org/tcp_sockets-t276.html
Nov 15 21:55:21 <f00bar80> am i talking to myself here
Nov 15 22:02:00 <jammr> okay, dumb question time.. setting an ImageView with setClickable and using onclick, not the correct way to do it?
Nov 15 22:14:16 <mpagano> how long should it take my uploaded upgrade to reflect in the android store?
Nov 15 22:19:14 <mpagano> nm, thanks
Nov 15 22:22:25 <f00bar80> no one talk here
Nov 15 22:24:39 <savid> What tab policy do most android developers use in their code?
Nov 15 22:24:44 <savid> spaces or tabs?
Nov 15 22:38:39 <andyross> Heh, drive by editor troll.
Nov 15 22:42:22 <f00bar80> trying to use the code in  http://www.anddev.org/tcp_sockets-t276.html , i got nothing in the emulator , any comment ?
Nov 15 22:43:00 <jammr> is there anything special you have to do attach an OnClickListener to an ImageButton? can't get the onclick to fire :/
Nov 15 22:43:34 <f00bar80> any comment ?
Nov 15 22:46:18 <f00bar80> please in case i'm off-topic please point me to where i can an answer to my question
Nov 15 23:08:13 <f00bar80> :(
Nov 15 23:10:16 <f00bar80> may i know what's wrong ?
Nov 15 23:10:32 <f00bar80> i'm asking something this much unrespectable /
Nov 15 23:47:05 <p1und3r> anyone interested in joining a torrent/script community check out my new site its http://www.codecaucus.com/ let me know what you guys think
Nov 15 23:56:41 <spikebike> what is a script community?
Nov 15 23:58:38 <p1und3r> people who help eachother with scripts
Nov 15 23:58:39 <p1und3r> share torrents and script knowledge
Nov 15 23:59:03 <spikebike> scripts for?
Nov 15 23:59:05 <p1und3r> from copy paster to guru imo
Nov 15 23:59:20 <p1und3r> anything just general like a developers communit for resources is what i intended
Nov 15 23:59:33 <p1und3r> and people who are knowledgeable in any technical aspect
Nov 15 23:59:43 <p1und3r> but im not going to restrict torrents at all either
Nov 16 00:00:09 <spikebike> my mainassociation with scripts is scxript kiddies
Nov 16 00:04:43 <p1und3r> meaning copy paster?
Nov 16 00:20:13 <p1und3r> spikebike?
Nov 16 00:21:45 <spikebike> yes?
Nov 16 00:21:56 <p1und3r> script kiddy is a copy paster?
Nov 16 00:22:03 <spikebike> not sure what a copy paster is
Nov 16 00:22:11 <p1und3r> whats a script kiddy then
Nov 16 00:22:19 <p1und3r> i've heard it before
Nov 16 00:22:39 <spikebike> some random that shows up on a less secure system that doesn't understand the programs/scripts they are using
Nov 16 00:22:44 <spikebike> or even unix shell
Nov 16 00:22:49 <p1und3r> copy paster means u take someone elses code and just modify it to suit your needs and you really don't know the language
Nov 16 00:23:00 <spikebike> they just follow a list of steps trying to collect pwned machines and accounts
Nov 16 00:23:18 <p1und3r> collectpwned machines and accounts?
Nov 16 00:23:21 <spikebike> basically the negative connotations of hackers... just break into systems without learning anything
Nov 16 00:23:43 <spikebike> so if you never patch a machine and run the security poorly the script kiddies show up
Nov 16 00:24:06 <p1und3r> well i was aiming it toward developers in general not wannabe hackers
Nov 16 00:24:15 <p1und3r> like php scripts, java etc
Nov 16 00:25:04 <spikebike> sounds good
Nov 16 00:25:11 <spikebike> I usually call that programming
Nov 16 00:25:17 <spikebike> but I'm jus ta random old fart
Nov 16 00:29:03 <p1und3r> yeah i have 12 members so damn i sux
Nov 16 00:29:04 <p1und3r> lol
Nov 16 00:29:16 <p1und3r> 12 members in 1 week baby thats how i do
Nov 16 00:30:00 <p1und3r> i need like advertisement and exposure :0
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