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Nov 21 10:18:34 <filosofico> hi to all
Nov 21 16:12:13 <ttuttle> Good morning #android-dev.
Nov 21 16:13:05 <vol> Good morning
Nov 21 16:37:00 <duncanfoo> hey all... when I create my own text view it seems to get a different font that the text views in my activity layout..
Nov 21 16:37:11 <duncanfoo> how do I make them the same?
Nov 21 17:01:11 <famast> Was it intentional to make ExpandableListView not update the group count on notifyDatasetChanged
Nov 21 17:03:08 <marcone> famast: I doubt it. File a bug.
Nov 21 19:06:42 <jasta> romainguy_: hmm, i ran into an interesting snag with my approach to track and wrap cursors that my provider hands out
Nov 21 19:06:46 <jasta> to support the database changing
Nov 21 19:07:29 <jasta> in particular, you can't trigger content or datasetobservers from any thread other than the UI thread when a cursor is being used by a ListAdapter
Nov 21 19:07:42 <jasta> the adapter doesn't support this by using a handler or runOnUiThread
Nov 21 19:08:27 <jasta> this means, for instance, you could not close a cursor you sent to a list adapter from any other thread
Nov 21 19:08:44 <jasta> despite that cursors are otherwise thread safe i believe
Nov 21 20:23:17 <jasta> i worked around the issue above by creating a handler when i create my cursor wrapper, and making sure any operation that i call from another thread is run in it.
Nov 21 20:32:44 <jasta> and hooray, i got it working.  an efficient way to download and load a sqlite3 database prepared externally
Nov 21 20:33:01 <jasta> with gracefully requerying any open cursors
Nov 21 20:33:15 <jasta> there is a brief window where queries can fail, but it is quite small
Nov 21 20:41:02 <Disconnect> nice
Nov 21 20:41:20 <Disconnect> now if only my externally-prepared sqlite db didn't cause my app to crash on the phone :(
Nov 21 20:57:53 <jasta> hmm?
Nov 21 20:58:02 <jasta> i tested all this using a sqlite3 db i made elsewhere
Nov 21 20:58:15 <jasta> but its somewhat tricky to get it loaded up
Nov 21 21:07:03 <jasta> Disconnect: http://code.google.com/p/android-random/source/browse/trunk/SqliteInjectionTest/src/org/devtcg/demo/sqliteinjection/Provider.java
Nov 21 21:07:07 <jasta> here's how i did it.
Nov 21 21:07:20 <jasta> ReplaceDbThread is where all the work is
Nov 21 21:07:46 * Disconnect isn't doing actual downloads while the app is running, i'm just having issues with a db i copied in causing crashes in the dev but not in the emu
Nov 21 21:09:41 <jasta> oh, i haven't tested it on the device yet.  i did not expect there to be differences
Nov 21 21:09:44 <jasta> Disconnect: whats the crash?
Nov 21 21:10:50 <Disconnect> E/AndroidRuntime(21406): android.database.sqlite.SQLiteException: error code 14
Nov 21 21:10:54 <jasta> that said, i am copying in meta tables from the android database when i replace it with one created elsewhere.  if youre seeing an exception raised regarding setLocale or anything like that then your problem is likely the one i saw and worked around earlier
Nov 21 21:11:10 <jasta> hmm, im gonna try deploying this code on the phone then
Nov 21 21:11:59 <Disconnect> reads work, thats an update (coincidentally of the same data, but it happens when I make changes as well)
Nov 21 21:12:22 <Disconnect> and new rows do the same thing. but all these things (and more, for just $19.99!..er, wait) all these things work fine on the emu
Nov 21 21:12:27 <Disconnect> identical db, identical perms, etc.
Nov 21 21:14:16 <jasta> hmm.
Nov 21 21:14:38 <jasta> i will try my code.  i just need to tidy a few things
Nov 21 21:15:02 <Disconnect> i'm gonna argue with it on sun prolly. gotta run now (wif's birthday, bunch of stuff to do in b'more tonight)
Nov 21 21:15:22 <jasta> well ill let you know what i find
Nov 21 21:15:46 <Disconnect> cool deal
Nov 21 21:15:59 <Disconnect> i'll prolly post to the dev list once i get a simple test case running
Nov 22 00:06:07 <jasta> i dont think ive ever been able to successfully install an apk from the web :\
Nov 22 00:06:12 <jasta> not sure what im doing wrong
Nov 22 00:06:45 <jasta> this most recent one i tried says it is replacing an app (it isnt), and then it says it requests no permissions (it does), then when i hit install it just says it was unsuccessful
Nov 22 00:07:01 <jasta> i just copied the apk from my project's bin/ folder that Eclipse produced
Nov 22 01:51:17 <ismarc> Jasta: was it signed as Debug, or non-debug?
Nov 22 01:53:38 <jasta> i don't know...
Nov 22 01:53:50 <jasta> i didn't know there were two ways to sign an apk?
Nov 22 01:54:42 <jbq> well, there aren't really two ways, but it's common for devs to use two certificates.
Nov 22 01:55:02 <jbq> s/certificates/signatures/
Nov 22 02:23:30 <ismarc> I know default just running ant will generate a debug build
Nov 22 02:23:48 <ismarc> I think you have to select release in eclipse...I haven't used it with android development yet
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