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Dec 12 03:00:07 <michaelnovakjr_> snappy: what is your listview id in the xml file?
Dec 12 03:00:34 <snappy> @+id/android:list
Dec 12 03:00:50 <michaelnovakjr_> ok
Dec 12 03:01:24 <KNY> oh hmm
Dec 12 03:01:31 <KNY> try @id/android:list
Dec 12 03:01:44 <michaelnovakjr_> yea
Dec 12 03:01:46 <KNY> erm, sorry
Dec 12 03:01:57 <KNY> @android:id/list ?
Dec 12 03:02:00 <KNY> I don't remember
Dec 12 03:02:31 <michaelnovakjr_> android:id/list
Dec 12 03:02:35 <michaelnovakjr_> @android:id/list
Dec 12 03:02:47 <michaelnovakjr_> that's what it should be
Dec 12 03:04:19 <snappy> In the solution file for the notepad tutorial, they use @+id/list
Dec 12 03:04:31 <snappy> er: @+id/android:list
Dec 12 03:04:52 <michaelnovakjr_> rename it to what i gave you and try it
Dec 12 03:04:57 <snappy> but i tried it without the +, and the onContextListItem listener isn't firing.
Dec 12 03:05:00 <snappy> ok
Dec 12 03:05:12 <michaelnovakjr_> android:id/list?
Dec 12 03:05:47 <michaelnovakjr_> also when do you have an unregister call in your code at the beginning of the filldata?
Dec 12 03:07:51 <snappy> Well I had the register in onCreate() earlier and the context menus weren't showing up. So I moved the registered to the end of fillData, and I figure I should unregister the old listview.
Dec 12 03:07:58 <snappy> It changes everytime fillData() is run.
Dec 12 03:10:17 <michaelnovakjr_> that's not really the way to do it
Dec 12 03:10:24 <michaelnovakjr_> have you looked at the docs?
Dec 12 03:10:51 <snappy> Which ones? I've seen the api doc for registerForContextMenu
Dec 12 03:13:10 <KNY> sorry, I'm a little behind--what's the point of the un/register?
Dec 12 03:13:31 <michaelnovakjr_> he's using it to update the context menu.
Dec 12 03:13:35 <michaelnovakjr_> there's a method for that
Dec 12 03:14:27 <snappy> Wait, I'm using it to register for the listview which is part of ListActivity.
Dec 12 03:15:13 <michaelnovakjr_> the unregister call he asked about
Dec 12 03:16:17 <snappy> oh.
Dec 12 03:25:07 <snappy> *sigh* this is frustrating. It seems no matter what I do, I can only get the context menu to work when the menu item id is 0. But then the list item id is nonsense.
Dec 12 03:25:44 <michaelnovakjr_> is this your first android app?
Dec 12 03:26:26 <snappy> Yeah
Dec 12 03:26:39 <snappy> (i'm just extending the one from the tutorial)
Dec 12 03:26:44 <michaelnovakjr_> are you new to java?
Dec 12 03:26:48 <snappy> No
Dec 12 03:27:20 <michaelnovakjr_> have you read through the docs?
Dec 12 03:27:21 <snappy> But I'm relatively new to UI programming.
Dec 12 03:27:32 <snappy> The tutorial docs, yes.
Dec 12 03:27:39 <michaelnovakjr_> no the api docs
Dec 12 03:27:47 <snappy> I've been through them quite a few times.
Dec 12 03:27:48 <michaelnovakjr_> read the api docs for ListViews
Dec 12 03:27:52 <snappy> ok
Dec 12 03:28:21 <michaelnovakjr_> er, the ListActivity
Dec 12 03:38:47 <snappy> I'm not sure what I'm looking for. The only discrepency I can find is the code I have used <ListView android:id="@+id/android:list" ... -- but that came straight from notepad source in the tutorial.
Dec 12 03:39:34 <snappy> But i don't know why they did that.
Dec 12 04:37:09 <snappy> I created an intent with ACTION_SEND and populated EXTRA_SUBJECT and EXTRA_TEXT and set type to message/rfc822. However it says no application can perform this action when I start teh activity.
Dec 12 04:37:17 <snappy> How do I fire the email client?
Dec 12 04:39:01 <michaelnovakjr_> um, i think you need a mailto
Dec 12 04:39:19 <michaelnovakjr_> look at the manifest file for the email app
Dec 12 04:43:50 <bparker06> has anyone successfully attached an activity to android.action.DIAL via intent-filter ?
Dec 12 04:44:07 <bparker06> android.intent.action.DIAL*
Dec 12 04:44:23 <bparker06> and what is the thread-safe alternative to android.net.Uri.Builder ?
Dec 12 05:00:07 <snappy> Ugh, if I use a mailto, e.g. sendIntent.setData(Uri.parse("mailto:")), it does actually end up launching email client, but the subject and body doesn't get set (even though i do: sendIntent.putExtra(Intent.EXTRA_SUBJECT, subject); sendIntent.putExtra(Intent.EXTRA_TEXT, body);)
Dec 12 05:03:22 <snappy> ah hm, mailto only works with ACTION_SENDTO which is expected, but I can't seem to get the email activity to fire up on ACTION_SEND after setting subject/body and type.
Dec 12 05:26:51 <bparker06> can anyone help me out with attaching to an existing intent?
Dec 12 05:54:07 <snappy> well that's a pain in the arse, had to rape & paste context menu code from one of the android apps that comes with the source.
Dec 12 07:28:42 <bparker06> what happened to NotificationManager.getDefault() ?
Dec 12 07:29:40 <bparker06> and getSystemService
Dec 12 07:52:49 <bparker06> where is android.app.NotificationManager.notifyWithText ??
Dec 12 07:58:04 <snappy> Is the code from source.android.com bleeding edge? It seems last time the email app was updated was in october.
Dec 12 07:59:45 <snappy> hm n/m read the roadmap page.
Dec 12 13:00:34 <blau-MikeDG> is there a way to access the logcat stuff without setting up eclipse?
Dec 12 13:05:26 <anno^da_> from the terminal ?
Dec 12 13:05:35 <anno^da_> (on your device)
Dec 12 13:05:41 <anno^da_> If you have it installed
Dec 12 13:06:17 <blau-MikeDG> i got it nevermind
Dec 12 13:06:19 <blau-MikeDG> adb logcat
Dec 12 13:06:38 <blau-MikeDG> trying to solve a users problem
Dec 12 13:07:57 <blau-MikeDG> you do any research into emails?
Dec 12 13:08:28 <anno^da_> email? for the missed calls app ?
Dec 12 13:08:41 <blau-MikeDG> yup
Dec 12 13:08:50 <anno^da_> Well I have looked into it but cant find anything regarding incoming calls :(
Dec 12 13:08:56 <blau-MikeDG> i keep getting that requested
Dec 12 13:09:02 <blau-MikeDG> and i know its all undocumented
Dec 12 13:09:07 <blau-MikeDG> but there has to be something!
Dec 12 13:09:11 <anno^da_> I can see a broadcast that gets fired
Dec 12 13:09:17 <anno^da_> when you get an incoming mail
Dec 12 13:09:23 <anno^da_> but I cant catch it
Dec 12 13:09:35 <anno^da_> every receiver works fine. Just this broadcast does nothing
Dec 12 13:10:21 <anno^da_>  	ACTION_PROVIDER_CHANGED
Dec 12 13:10:31 <anno^da_> this one gets fired by the gmail app
Dec 12 13:10:51 <blau-MikeDG> incoming calls or incoming emails?
Dec 12 13:10:58 <anno^da_> Notify me if you got something. I'm also searching
Dec 12 13:11:00 <anno^da_> emails
Dec 12 13:11:00 <blau-MikeDG> blah nevermind
Dec 12 13:11:03 <blau-MikeDG> gotcha
Dec 12 13:11:25 <anno^da_> The documentation is pretty bad
Dec 12 13:11:37 <anno^da_> I have to look into the source code.
Dec 12 13:12:02 <blau-MikeDG> they dont want people using this stuff lol
Dec 12 13:12:08 <anno^da_> yeah i know :)
Dec 12 13:12:08 <tauno> how do I access the logcat content on the device? (want to send an error report to myself after my app should crash)
Dec 12 13:12:56 <blau-MikeDG> you could always carry a laptop around
Dec 12 13:13:06 <blau-MikeDG> last week one o fmy apps crashed while i was on the way home from work
Dec 12 13:13:12 <blau-MikeDG> i pulled out my laptop and hooked it up at a stop light
Dec 12 13:13:13 <blau-MikeDG> lol
Dec 12 13:16:04 <blau-MikeDG> i had to send about 2 dozen emails telling my users to disable the normal notification
Dec 12 13:16:16 <blau-MikeDG> even though i had it in the notes htat pop up immediately when you styart my app
Dec 12 13:16:23 <blau-MikeDG> and someone else posted a comment saying to do that
Dec 12 13:25:14 <anno^da_> The biggest problem is the 325 character description
Dec 12 13:25:17 <anno^da_> in the market
Dec 12 13:25:38 <anno^da_> You cant describe anything there. :/ I'm always running out of characters
Dec 12 13:25:49 <anno^da_> and responding to the comments isnt possible as well :(
Dec 12 13:26:53 <blau-MikeDG> yeah, those are my 2 main gripes
Dec 12 13:27:43 <blau-MikeDG> I'm impressed with ohw many comments you got so quick
Dec 12 13:27:44 <blau-MikeDG> bravo
Dec 12 13:32:45 <blau-MikeDG> anno: do you want the code to make it so you cant clear the missed call notification?
Dec 12 13:33:46 <blau-MikeDG> 		notif.flags = notif.flags | Notification.FLAG_NO_CLEAR;
Dec 12 13:35:05 <anno^da_> blau-MikeDG: ahh nice
Dec 12 16:47:58 <anno^da_> Could someone tell me what could be wrong with this ContentObserver: http://paste.pocoo.org/show/95060/
Dec 12 18:21:06 <bparker06> anyone good with Toast?
Dec 12 18:21:15 <blau-MikeDG> whatcha wanna do?
Dec 12 18:21:44 <bparker06> I'm trying to call makeText from a receiver that happens when an incoming call rings
Dec 12 18:21:49 <bparker06> but it throws NPE
Dec 12 18:21:54 <michaelnovakjr_> a receiver?
Dec 12 18:21:58 <blau-MikeDG> npe?
Dec 12 18:22:01 <blau-MikeDG> null
Dec 12 18:22:01 <blau-MikeDG> duh
Dec 12 18:22:23 <bparker06> I forget what it's called but
Dec 12 18:22:39 <bparker06> I have a method that gets run when the phone rings
Dec 12 18:22:44 <bparker06> a method from my activity
Dec 12 18:22:51 <blau-MikeDG> phonestatelistener
Dec 12 18:22:54 <bparker06> yea
Dec 12 18:22:55 <bparker06> that's it
Dec 12 18:23:16 <bparker06> but calling Toast.makeText there throws NPE while doing it from inside my activity works fine
Dec 12 18:23:21 <blau-MikeDG> are you using makText
Dec 12 18:23:34 <michaelnovakjr_> can you run that from a receiver?
Dec 12 18:23:52 <bparker06> I don't know :/
Dec 12 18:23:54 <blau-MikeDG> you need a context
Dec 12 18:23:57 <michaelnovakjr_> yea
Dec 12 18:23:59 <blau-MikeDG> Toast.makeText(this, "Stopped dgAway Service", Toast.LENGTH_SHORT).show();
Dec 12 18:24:01 <bparker06> yea I think that's the problem
Dec 12 18:24:08 <bparker06> is with context
Dec 12 18:24:11 <michaelnovakjr_> are you passing this first?
Dec 12 18:24:17 <michaelnovakjr_> or a context?
Dec 12 18:24:26 <blau-MikeDG> check the error logs
Dec 12 18:24:32 <blau-MikeDG> i bet theres another error shortly before the npe
Dec 12 18:24:50 <bparker06> I think it's getBaseContext() or something like that
Dec 12 18:24:58 <bparker06> not in front of the code right now
Dec 12 18:25:08 <bparker06> but that's what I was passing
Dec 12 18:25:45 <bparker06> the only error it showed was inside of makeText's init
Dec 12 18:25:53 <blau-MikeDG> hmm
Dec 12 18:25:55 <bparker06> and just that it was NPE
Dec 12 18:26:12 <bparker06> the line before that in the trace was my makeText call
Dec 12 18:26:27 <michaelnovakjr_> im testing.... i just happened to be working on a receiver myself
Dec 12 18:26:34 <bparker06> cool
Dec 12 18:27:32 <michaelnovakjr_> works for me
Dec 12 18:27:41 <bparker06> passing what context?
Dec 12 18:27:44 <michaelnovakjr_> yes
Dec 12 18:27:54 <michaelnovakjr_> passing the context from the onReceive call
Dec 12 18:28:23 <blau-MikeDG> toast worked fine for me
Dec 12 18:28:32 <blau-MikeDG> theres a context parameter to onreceive
Dec 12 18:28:37 <blau-MikeDG> just pass that
Dec 12 18:28:59 <bparker06> hang on let me pull up my code, cause I don't remember seeing that
Dec 12 18:29:24 <michaelnovakjr_> what blau-MikeDG said... i did the same thing
Dec 12 18:34:25 <bparker06> ok
Dec 12 18:34:37 <bparker06> PhoneStateListener doesn't seem to have onReceive
Dec 12 18:34:50 <bparker06> I'm using onCallStateChanged
Dec 12 18:34:56 <bparker06> which doesn't have a context passed to it
Dec 12 18:35:57 <michaelnovakjr_> huh?
Dec 12 18:37:04 <bparker06> I don't know :/ lol
Dec 12 18:37:16 <bparker06> I can't login to get to my code right now
Dec 12 18:37:48 <michaelnovakjr_> a receiver should always implement the onReceive
Dec 12 18:37:59 <michaelnovakjr_> at least a BroadcastReceiver should
Dec 12 18:38:39 <bparker06> it's not a broadcastreceiver though
Dec 12 18:38:55 <blau-MikeDG> oh its the phonestatelistener durrr
Dec 12 18:38:57 <blau-MikeDG> sorry
Dec 12 18:39:01 <blau-MikeDG> i lost track :)
Dec 12 18:39:35 <blau-MikeDG> the phonestatelistener constructor gets a context
Dec 12 18:39:52 <blau-MikeDG> use that one to toast
Dec 12 18:41:35 <bparker06> hmm
Dec 12 18:41:41 <bparker06> I'm looking at the doc for PhoneStateListener
Dec 12 18:41:46 <bparker06> the constructor is blank
Dec 12 18:41:57 <bparker06> just says public PhoneStateListener()
Dec 12 18:43:44 <blau-MikeDG> oh umm make one that accepts a context :)
Dec 12 18:43:56 <blau-MikeDG> i have liek 5 diff convos going on at once and im "working"
Dec 12 18:44:01 <bparker06> lol
Dec 12 18:45:22 <bparker06> don't know that I can do that hehe
Dec 12 18:45:47 <jasta> blau-MikeDG: whats your question?  i just popped in...
Dec 12 18:45:59 <blau-MikeDG> jasta: im helping bp
Dec 12 18:46:14 <blau-MikeDG> but im a little unreliable cause i got so much stuff happening at once
Dec 12 18:47:44 <jasta> ok then, so bparker06, what's your question? :)
Dec 12 18:50:56 <bparker06> I need to know how to get a context to pass to Toast.makeText while I'm inside PhoneStateListener.onCallStateChanged
Dec 12 18:51:31 <jasta> what context was your phone state listener registered?
Dec 12 18:51:36 <jasta> service, activity?
Dec 12 18:52:23 <bparker06> activity
Dec 12 18:53:18 <blau-MikeDG> bparker, my suggestion is make a constructor that takes a Context
Dec 12 18:53:24 <blau-MikeDG> pass the activities context to it
Dec 12 18:53:26 <blau-MikeDG> and use that
Dec 12 18:53:51 <bparker06> ah
Dec 12 18:54:10 <jasta> so just make the phone state listener non-static and use the reference
Dec 12 18:54:38 <bparker06> argh
Dec 12 18:54:39 <jasta> but make sure you call TelephoneManager#listen(listener, LISTEN_NONE) so you dont leak it
Dec 12 18:54:47 <bparker06> I don't quite understand :/
Dec 12 18:54:53 <blau-MikeDG> jasta, leak it?
Dec 12 18:54:53 <bparker06> still new to java/android
Dec 12 18:54:55 <jasta> bparker06: hang on, ill link you something
Dec 12 18:54:59 <blau-MikeDG> it gets killed eventually
Dec 12 18:56:01 <blau-MikeDG> at least in my experience
Dec 12 18:56:05 <jasta> http://java.sun.com/docs/books/tutorial/java/javaOO/nested.html -- read about inner classes
Dec 12 18:56:35 <jasta> blau-MikeDG: you must unregister your listener in onDestroy or you will leak the activity until your process dies.  because you have used an inner class
Dec 12 18:56:47 <jasta> this has nothing to do with android, everything to do with java.
Dec 12 18:57:27 <blau-MikeDG> oh ok until the process dies
Dec 12 18:57:44 <jasta> (which can take a long time)
Dec 12 18:57:51 <blau-MikeDG> where does the innerclass come from?
Dec 12 18:58:01 <jasta> you made it, i imagine.
Dec 12 18:58:20 <jasta> please just read what i pasted to you.  ask questions after you finish reading.
Dec 12 18:58:57 <blau-MikeDG> i read it, i understand
Dec 12 18:59:07 <blau-MikeDG> are you syaing phonestatelisteners have to be inner classes?
Dec 12 18:59:16 <jasta> then you would know that with an inner class, you have a reference to the outer class.
Dec 12 18:59:30 <jasta> the outer class is an Activity, which is a Context.  thus, you have a reference to a context.
Dec 12 19:01:09 <blau-MikeDG> ok
Dec 12 19:03:00 <jasta> if you don't use a nested class you would have to pass the context.  but i recommend that you do.
Dec 12 19:03:08 <jasta> that you do use a nested class*
Dec 12 19:06:29 <blau-MikeDG> any existing methods to match up a number with a contact?
Dec 12 19:51:38 <duncanfoo> any ideas on when the next android release will be?
Dec 12 19:58:58 <anno^da_> jasta: Do you know something about this problem: http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers/browse_thread/thread/aa4379f27c12316d
Dec 12 20:04:47 <jasta> no clue, havent seen anything like that before
Dec 12 20:05:03 <jasta> i would try analyzing the stack trace and the android source to see if you can find something obvious though
Dec 12 20:40:42 <d0netsFN> hey i think i lost my root
Dec 12 20:40:45 <d0netsFN> could someone help me
Dec 12 20:40:55 <d0netsFN> i got a warranty replacement
Dec 12 20:40:57 <d0netsFN> it had rc29
Dec 12 20:41:06 <d0netsFN> i went through the wiki at android-dls.com
Dec 12 20:41:10 <d0netsFN> just like i did on my last one
Dec 12 20:41:18 <d0netsFN> and i had root yesterday but i install that shell app
Dec 12 20:41:30 <d0netsFN> and today i couldnt get terminal emu to to work and my wifi wouldnt work
Dec 12 20:41:41 <d0netsFN> so i reboot and did alt-s again
Dec 12 20:42:04 <d0netsFN> it made term emu work and wifi work, but now i cant get root
Dec 12 20:49:43 <vol> oh noes :<
Dec 12 21:03:15 <d0netsFN> yea no shit
Dec 12 21:03:20 <d0netsFN> i want to throw things
Dec 12 21:05:02 <jasta> by the way, this is #android-dev.  youre in the wrong place :)
Dec 12 21:05:33 <michaelnovakjr_> yes wrong channel!
Dec 12 21:06:37 <d0netsFN> yea well i asked in #android
Dec 12 21:06:39 <d0netsFN> they lold
Dec 12 21:06:41 <d0netsFN> awsome help
Dec 12 21:10:20 <jasta> just because they dont help you doesn't mean we will.
Dec 12 21:11:08 <michaelnovakjr_> dude, you modified your phone :)
Dec 12 21:11:13 <michaelnovakjr_> its a risk
Dec 12 21:40:16 * CardinalFang grumbles, "oh, that's fun.  'java.lang.VerifyError'."
Dec 12 21:40:47 <fadden> CardinalFang: pastebin it if you need an interpreter
Dec 12 21:42:43 <CardinalFang> Thanks, I can manage it, I think.  I'll just bisect until it goes away.  I'm somewhat new to Java and its *ahem* quirks.
Dec 12 21:45:05 <tomgibara> I'm looking for anyone who'd be will to test a pre-alpha soft keyboard, just for some initial feedback before I press on with refining it.
Dec 12 21:45:57 <jasta> CardinalFang: java is not an especially quirky language.  perhaps these are YOUR quirks. ;)
Dec 12 21:46:15 <jasta> tomgibara: do you know that google is publishing one?
Dec 12 21:46:45 <tomgibara> jasta: Yes, no doubt it will blow mine out of the water :) But this was already begun
Dec 12 21:47:55 <anno^da_> Is there an action defined for getting to the Call Log ?
Dec 12 21:48:01 <tomgibara> Its a very interesting challenge actually, given the constraints that apply, I can't wait to see what Google's engineers come up with.
Dec 12 21:49:20 <tomgibara> anno^da_: I don't think so. I think that activity is internal to the dialer app
Dec 12 21:49:21 <CardinalFang> jasta, indeed, it's probably me.  That VerifyError is quirky, *I* say.  My other languages definitely have their quirks.  'call-cc' in Scheme, one-item tuple syntax in Python, pretty much everything in C....
Dec 12 21:49:44 <jasta> if you can show us some more info im sure we can help
Dec 12 21:50:35 <anno^da_> tomgibara: thank you. Can we track the launch of the Contacts app?
Dec 12 21:53:28 <tomgibara> anno^da_: Again only guessing, but probably not unless you were looking to replace the activity by registering a suitable intent filter.
Dec 12 21:54:22 <anno^da_> tomgibara: Yeah ok. I thought that after looking through all the groups and docs.
Dec 12 21:56:23 <tomgibara> jasta: Incidentally, I think that the encumbent keyboard components (especially the dictionary) may enjoy a considerable advantage over anything that can be supplied by external developers.
Dec 12 21:56:56 <CardinalFang> """ [apply] trouble processing:\n   [apply] class name (com/example/x/Klass$DefinedEnum) does not match path (com/example/x/Klass$definedEnum.class)"""
Dec 12 21:57:08 <CardinalFang> "d" versus "D"?
Dec 12 21:58:52 <CardinalFang> Maybe some of that anonymous magic is broken, but it's probably me.  hrm.
Dec 12 22:02:30 <CardinalFang> ... well, defining an enum with a capital letter ain't legal, it seems.
Dec 12 22:04:09 <fadden> The class name and the file name must match (case sensitive).
Dec 12 22:21:04 <michaelnovakjr_> can the sqlite3 command be run on a device?
Dec 12 22:23:05 <jasta> no...
Dec 12 22:23:13 <jasta> or rather, it doesnt exist on the stock g1
Dec 12 22:23:16 <jasta> youd need root to add it
Dec 12 22:23:45 <michaelnovakjr_> that is annying
Dec 12 22:23:53 <michaelnovakjr_> annoying
Dec 12 22:23:55 <jasta> you can, however, adb pull and then fiddle
Dec 12 22:24:05 <michaelnovakjr_> that'll work
Dec 12 22:24:15 <jasta> and of course even adb push it back
Dec 12 22:24:22 <michaelnovakjr_> neat
Dec 12 22:24:39 <michaelnovakjr_> i'm already on rc30, so i'm not going to bother with root
Dec 12 22:24:46 <michaelnovakjr_> pulling should work, thanks
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