**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Sat Dec 20 02:59:57 2008
Dec 20 03:03:15 <ITechJunkie> chrispix: I'll take a look at this. Since i asked that question i've been looking at this: http://androidguys.com/?p=3005
Dec 20 03:04:34 <ITechJunkie> I put everything together, just like on the tutorial and I keep getting a *name* has stopped unexpectedly error
Dec 20 03:04:56 <chrispix> You are having issues w/ tabs?
Dec 20 03:05:06 <chrispix> I have mine working.. One second.. let me pull up some code.
Dec 20 03:05:27 <chrispix> Want me to start w/ XML?
Dec 20 03:05:34 <ITechJunkie> chrispix: thanks, i'll pastebin the ddms output
Dec 20 03:05:42 <chrispix> ok..
Dec 20 03:06:18 <ITechJunkie> These are the errors i'm getting: http://pastebin.com/m5cd17c9d
Dec 20 03:06:39 <ITechJunkie> can you make heads or tails of that?
Dec 20 03:06:52 <chrispix> looking
Dec 20 03:07:23 <chrispix> not sure.. let me send you my code.. what is best way to do that?
Dec 20 03:07:41 <ITechJunkie> you can pastebin it or email it to me at itechjunkie@gmail.com
Dec 20 03:07:48 <ITechJunkie> whichever you prefer
Dec 20 03:07:52 <chrispix> one sec
Dec 20 03:08:35 <chrispix> going to pastebin xml & then java
Dec 20 03:08:48 <ITechJunkie> thanks again
Dec 20 03:11:16 <chrispix> http://pastebin.com/m21f34d11
Dec 20 03:11:24 <chrispix> let me know if you have Qs?
Dec 20 03:11:46 <ITechJunkie> definately man, I appreciate the help.
Dec 20 03:11:52 <chrispix> np..
Dec 20 03:12:47 <chrispix> The code I am copying and pasting from has a whole lot of imports, I can't remember all necessary, so I figure you can handle importing correct methods.
Dec 20 03:13:03 <ITechJunkie> yeah, no prob
Dec 20 03:15:32 <chrispix> http://pastebin.com/m2494d843
Dec 20 03:16:13 <chrispix> I can't remember if it is tab activity, I have had to creat a new activity as I am using a tab to display map & camera on tabs
Dec 20 03:17:11 <ITechJunkie> Yeah, i'm gonna say that it is tabactivity from everything else i've read tonight, i'll try that first
Dec 20 03:17:36 <chrispix> If I recall 'Activity' also worked, so you might try that too if you have issues.
Dec 20 03:17:47 <chrispix> does that look similar to what you had?
Dec 20 03:18:35 <ITechJunkie> yes
Dec 20 03:18:57 <ITechJunkie> although, I can't figure out how to define "spec"
Dec 20 03:19:03 <chrispix> oh .
Dec 20 03:19:05 <chrispix>  one sec.
Dec 20 03:19:21 <chrispix> TabHost.TabSpec spec=tabs.newTabSpec("tag1");	
Dec 20 03:19:33 <chrispix> that is where spec is defined, just give it a name
Dec 20 03:20:45 <ITechJunkie> okay. everything looks good. let me see if the emulator will runit
Dec 20 03:21:33 <chrispix> k
Dec 20 03:24:12 <ITechJunkie> It's still popping up the same error dialog... The code should run just fine... let me restart the emulator and eclipse...
Dec 20 03:24:59 <chrispix> ok..
Dec 20 03:27:46 <ITechJunkie> Yeah, it's giving me the same error, I tried it on my phone also. Says: Sorry! The application *app name* has stopped unexpectedly. Please try again.
Dec 20 03:28:16 <chrispix> very strange. let me write one really quick..
Dec 20 03:28:45 <ITechJunkie> Do you want my code and xml to test on your sys?
Dec 20 03:28:54 <chrispix> If you want.
Dec 20 03:29:29 <ITechJunkie> couldn't hurt, i'm new at this. Maybe you can see somethinge I don't.
Dec 20 03:29:43 <chrispix> k
Dec 20 03:30:23 <ITechJunkie> http://pastebin.com/m4e5f851d
Dec 20 03:32:41 <chrispix> one sec
Dec 20 03:34:24 <ITechJunkie> The weird thing is, i've tried the demo's on the API and they work fine, but when I try to replicate the code and then change a couple of variables (like button titles) I can't get it to work.
Dec 20 03:34:58 <chrispix> strange.. let me load up new project
Dec 20 03:40:24 <chrispix> It pretty much worked for me..
Dec 20 03:40:29 <chrispix> uploading new code
Dec 20 03:40:36 <ITechJunkie> okay
Dec 20 03:41:11 <chrispix> I am guessing your project name was com.androidguys.IntentTabDemo, I named mine the same
Dec 20 03:41:25 <chrispix> http://pastebin.com/m5762811c
Dec 20 03:41:46 <chrispix> http://pastebin.com/d6923f359
Dec 20 03:41:47 <ITechJunkie> yeah, i plugged in your code into the tutorial i attempted
Dec 20 03:42:35 <chrispix> Does my whole code work in a new app. It sounds like your R.Java might be jacked. Try dumping it into a new project
Dec 20 03:43:21 <ITechJunkie> okay
Dec 20 03:43:37 <chrispix> That is what I just did and it worked fine w/ those 2 codes. I named project com.androidguys.IntentTabDemo
Dec 20 03:46:34 <ITechJunkie> Okay, I did what you suggested. the emulator is booting
Dec 20 03:46:38 <chrispix> k
Dec 20 03:46:52 * ITechJunkie crosses fingers
Dec 20 03:47:36 <ITechJunkie> It worked
Dec 20 03:47:41 <chrispix> sweet
Dec 20 03:47:57 <ITechJunkie> the only thing i did different is that I extended TabActivity instead of Activity
Dec 20 03:48:11 <chrispix> really?
Dec 20 03:48:15 <ITechJunkie> yeah
Dec 20 03:48:17 <chrispix> so activity worked, tabactivity did not?
Dec 20 03:48:20 <chrispix> I am going to try tabactivity
Dec 20 03:48:54 <ITechJunkie> yeah, i just confirmed it on my system. Thats what the problem was
Dec 20 03:49:09 <chrispix> sure
Dec 20 03:49:10 <chrispix> is
Dec 20 03:49:17 <chrispix> mine died too. Activity it is!
Dec 20 03:49:26 <ITechJunkie> any ideas why?
Dec 20 03:49:34 <chrispix> No idea.. let me see
Dec 20 03:50:08 <ITechJunkie> i'm still trying to wrap my head around all of this. I've got a limited knowledge of java and I pretty much jumped into android headfirst
Dec 20 03:50:38 <chrispix> You sound like me 2-3 weeks ago :P
Dec 20 03:50:47 <chrispix> Not sure why. But apparently it works..
Dec 20 03:50:52 <ITechJunkie> then there's hope for me?
Dec 20 03:51:06 <chrispix> I guess (if there is hope for me still :)
Dec 20 03:51:24 <ITechJunkie> heh lemme know if you run out
Dec 20 03:51:31 <chrispix> hahah ok.
Dec 20 03:52:03 <ITechJunkie> what kinda resources have you been using to learn with?
Dec 20 03:52:24 <chrispix> I bought some books. Two are pretty decent, one is an online PDF (the newest revision is)
Dec 20 03:52:50 <chrispix> And a paperback, I got a 3rd, but it is all pre release, and the code is pretty much expired (they have changed methods/naming etc)
Dec 20 03:53:04 <chrispix> The paperback is Professional Android Application Development (Wrox press)
Dec 20 03:53:07 <chrispix> and the PDF is
Dec 20 03:53:27 <chrispix> The Busy Coder's guide to android development
Dec 20 03:53:47 <ITechJunkie> did you buy the pdf?
Dec 20 03:54:03 <chrispix> yah. It is actually pretty cool b/c you get access to updates etc.
Dec 20 03:54:09 <ITechJunkie> nice
Dec 20 03:54:09 <chrispix> let me find u website
Dec 20 03:54:14 <ITechJunkie> thx
Dec 20 03:54:34 <chrispix> actually you buy an annual subscription that allows you access to their book + book in development + source code
Dec 20 03:54:46 <chrispix> you can keep the last revision you dnload after the year is up
Dec 20 03:54:54 <ITechJunkie> the reason I haven't bought any books is because most are outdated. Nice, how much?
Dec 20 03:55:13 <chrispix> http://commonsware.com/Android/
Dec 20 03:55:28 <chrispix> $35 1 year
Dec 20 03:55:39 <ITechJunkie> sounds like a deal to me
Dec 20 03:56:03 <chrispix> Yeah I have access to
Dec 20 03:56:26 <chrispix> The Busy Coders guide to android development version 1.0 (the paper back release) in Kindle & PDF
Dec 20 03:56:34 <chrispix> The Busy Coder's Guide to Android Development version 1.9: [Kindle] [PDF]
Dec 20 03:56:39 <chrispix> The Busy Coder's Guide to Advanced Android Development version 0.2: [PDF]
Dec 20 03:56:50 <chrispix> the 0.2 is not finished, but as they update it you can read it.
Dec 20 03:57:00 <ITechJunkie> nice
Dec 20 03:57:07 <chrispix> I really like the Professional Android Applciation development book too. Got it on amazon.
Dec 20 03:57:27 <chrispix> Android a programmers guide is outdated, I would not recommend it
Dec 20 03:58:02 <ITechJunkie> I'll probably have to order that one too then. How current is it? ( PPA Dev book )
Dec 20 03:58:24 <chrispix> I think it is 1.0, they seem to not have as many issues as the other one.
Dec 20 03:59:06 <ITechJunkie> either way, 1.0 is a big step up from the beta stuff
Dec 20 04:02:46 <chrispix> yeah..
Dec 20 04:02:56 <chrispix> my email is chrispix @ gmail
Dec 20 04:03:26 <ITechJunkie> awesome, i'll add you in there
Dec 20 04:03:30 <chrispix> k
Dec 20 04:05:53 <ITechJunkie> I like GoogleCheckout, first time to use it. It's pretty slick
Dec 20 04:06:23 <chrispix> yeah it is pretty nice :)
Dec 20 04:46:58 <ITechJunkie> when using XML can you use percentages when specifying layout_width?
Dec 20 04:51:45 <morrildl> ITechJunkie: no, but you can use weights
Dec 20 04:52:23 <morrildl> ITechJunkie: specifically, use android:layout_width="0px" (the value will be ignored) and android:layout_weight="42"
Dec 20 04:53:10 <morrildl> ITechJunkie: the various weights are normalized. So if you have 3 cells across, and their weights are 1, 1, and 2, then that will be equivalent to 25%, 25%, and 50%
Dec 20 17:30:44 <alexissoft> i just have a question
Dec 20 17:30:54 <alexissoft> i have a listview with buttons on list items
Dec 20 17:31:01 <alexissoft> how can i attach an event to these buttons ?
Dec 20 17:31:31 <vol> programaticaly :>
Dec 20 17:31:39 <anno^da_> You have to give the buttons an idea
Dec 20 17:32:00 <alexissoft> an id ?
Dec 20 17:32:04 <anno^da_> and then just do the Notepad tutorial :)
Dec 20 17:32:24 <alexissoft> hmm
Dec 20 17:32:28 <alexissoft> i'll recheck the notepad tutorial
Dec 20 17:32:32 <anno^da_> something like this
Dec 20 17:32:34 <anno^da_> android:id="@+id/general"
Dec 20 17:33:16 <anno^da_> then you do this in onCreate
Dec 20 17:33:37 <anno^da_>  Button general = (Button) findViewById(R.id.general);
Dec 20 17:34:02 <alexissoft> ok !
Dec 20 17:34:03 <alexissoft> thanks !
Dec 20 17:34:30 <anno^da_> http://paste.pocoo.org/show/96163/
Dec 20 17:35:04 <alexissoft> yes, i already know how to do an event
Dec 20 17:35:10 <anno^da_> thats the way to go for all your elements that you need to change or you like to set listeners on
Dec 20 17:41:56 <alexissoft> hmm findViewById always returns null even if the listview entries are there
Dec 20 17:42:12 <alexissoft> (the button is inside a listview entry)
Dec 20 17:42:15 <alexissoft> (inside a row)
Dec 20 17:43:23 <alexissoft> and that's not an issue like "the listview entries are not yet created (in the onCreate)" because i've tried elsewhere and i still have the NullPointerException
Dec 20 17:45:24 <anno^da_> can you paste the xml and the java file in the paste.pocoo.org ?
Dec 20 17:47:09 <alexissoft> the xml is here http://paste.pocoo.org/show/96164/
Dec 20 17:47:42 <alexissoft> and the java here http://paste.pocoo.org/show/96165/
Dec 20 17:48:01 <alexissoft> yes the code can be a little bit ... not so clean.
Dec 20 17:49:41 <alexissoft> i've put the findViewById for the button on "onCreateOptionsMenu" instead of "onCreate" just to see if it was linked with onCreated
Dec 20 17:52:21 <anno^da_> but the method findViewById got found ?
Dec 20 17:52:37 <alexissoft> hmm yes, why not ?
Dec 20 17:52:56 <alexissoft> i've the null pointer exception on the next line
Dec 20 17:55:28 <anno^da_> Yeah have you looked at this example? http://code.google.com/intl/de-DE/android/samples/ApiDemos/src/com/example/android/apis/view/List8.html
Dec 20 17:55:42 <anno^da_> Just to compare it is using a list actitivty as well
Dec 20 17:56:19 <anno^da_>         // Use a custom layout file
Dec 20 17:56:19 <anno^da_>         setContentView(R.layout.list_8);
Dec 20 17:56:22 <anno^da_> this is missing
Dec 20 17:56:59 <anno^da_> you're onCreate is lacking the connection to the xml file :)
Dec 20 17:57:09 <anno^da_> so you cant find the IDs defined in the xml file
Dec 20 17:57:11 <alexissoft> ok thanks, i'll look that way
Dec 20 19:18:32 <eldenz> is there some automatism available to display the current setting in the summary of a preference item?
Dec 20 19:37:55 <Falc|Away> hi guys, got a question, if i stop an application (for example by pressing the home button), am i required to 'stop' the running threads? ifso should i do it in onStop or onDestroy. The new thread connects to a services by sockets... so i guess i need to disconnect it.
Dec 20 19:39:02 <romainguy> Falc|Away: you are not required but you really should
Dec 20 19:39:14 <romainguy> onDestroy will not be called if you go back Home
Dec 20 19:39:23 <Falc|Away> ah, that explains a lot
Dec 20 19:39:24 <romainguy> read the activity javadoc and you will see what methods should be used
Dec 20 19:39:34 <romainguy> basically you should use onPause/onStop
Dec 20 19:39:40 <Falc|Away> i tried closing the socket in stop and destroy but i just got exceptions that way...
Dec 20 19:39:50 <Falc|Away> right
Dec 20 19:58:13 <Falc|Away> hmm i enabled logging but pressing the home button doesnt calls onPause or onStop here :(
Dec 20 20:02:05 <djc> so I'm trying to work on Calendar in Eclipse
Dec 20 20:02:18 <djc> but it throws an Exception when I open the AndroidManifest.xml
Dec 20 20:02:23 <djc> any tips to fix it?
Dec 20 20:27:10 <serialthrilla> i'm wondering how i can get my activity from the Context provided to my BroadcastReceiver.onReceive()
Dec 20 20:27:17 <serialthrilla> or how i can get a property of my activity inside the onReceive()
Dec 20 21:25:54 <eldenz> Error executing aapt @ ADT.  oO but i can run it just fine from a terminal
Dec 20 21:26:10 <eldenz> and the suggested path is correct
Dec 20 21:27:43 <eldenz> aw as usual, clean&manual rebuild fixes it!
Dec 20 22:07:25 <djc> romainguy: I'm trying to use the Eclipse plugin (like you demoed for us at the Mentor Summit) to work on Calendar
Dec 20 22:07:45 <djc> but when I open the AndroidManifest.xml file it fails
Dec 20 22:07:50 <djc> got any tips for me on that>
Dec 20 22:07:51 <djc> ?
Dec 20 22:09:56 <romainguy> define "it fails" :)
Dec 20 22:10:31 <djc> something about not implementing IFileEditor or something
Dec 20 22:10:36 <djc> wait, I'll look it up
Dec 20 22:10:41 <romainguy> I have no idea
Dec 20 22:10:51 <romainguy> it looks like you haven't installed the editors module for the Android plugin
Dec 20 22:11:25 <djc> I've got Android Editors in the Installed Software list
Dec 20 22:11:54 <djc> com.android.ide.eclipse.editors.AndroidEditor.init(Unknown Source)
Dec 20 22:12:01 <djc> org.eclipse.ui.PartInitException: Invalid Input: Must be IFileEditorInput
Dec 20 22:29:45 <eldenz> does anyone want to share their ImageTextButton widget class? :)
Dec 20 22:59:27 <romainguy> eldenz: why would you need such a thing? the Button class already lets you put an image + text
Dec 20 23:02:07 <eldenz> oh it does?
Dec 20 23:02:11 <eldenz> stupid me, thanks
Dec 20 23:04:42 <eldenz> it doesn't seem to draw anything though
Dec 20 23:05:13 <eldenz> <Button android:id="@+id/btn_connect" android:layout_height="wrap_content" android:layout_width="wrap_content" android:src="@drawable/connect" />
Dec 20 23:05:30 <romainguy> that's because the src attribute does not exist for Button
Dec 20 23:05:33 <romainguy> look at the docs
Dec 20 23:05:59 <eldenz> buttonStyle?
Dec 20 23:06:01 <romainguy> you have to use drawableLeft/Top/Right/Bottom instead
Dec 20 23:06:01 <eldenz> ok
Dec 20 23:06:05 <eldenz> err
Dec 20 23:06:33 <eldenz> thanks
Dec 21 00:07:50 <jasta> hey guys :)
Dec 21 00:07:55 <jasta> this snow storm in seattle is fun :)
Dec 21 00:08:03 <jasta> missed work wed/thu, went up snowboarding on friday
Dec 21 00:08:09 <jasta> and tonight a brand new storm is rolling in
Dec 21 00:08:29 <jasta> yay
Dec 21 00:19:05 <eldenz> i kind of hate you
Dec 21 00:19:25 <eldenz> but in a good way ;)
Dec 21 00:19:31 <jasta> me?
Dec 21 00:19:36 <eldenz> yes
Dec 21 00:19:41 <jasta> well thats not very nice
Dec 21 00:19:56 <eldenz> but you've earned.. snowboarding and all :p
Dec 21 00:20:03 <eldenz> +it
Dec 21 00:24:04 <jasta> 2 foot fresh snow ;)
Dec 21 00:24:06 <jasta> 2 feet*
Dec 21 00:25:22 <eldenz>  \ð/ but probably cloudy, right?
Dec 21 00:25:35 <jasta> no, it was sunny and beautiful yesterday when i went ;)
Dec 21 00:25:39 <eldenz> grrr
Dec 21 00:26:30 <jasta> although it was like 0F :)
Dec 21 00:31:08 <SanMehat> hey jasta
Dec 21 00:32:19 <SanMehat> sup
Dec 21 00:35:17 <ttuttle> SanMehat: yo
Dec 21 00:37:02 <SanMehat> yo
Dec 21 00:38:46 <ttuttle> SanMehat: how's it going?
Dec 21 00:40:59 <SanMehat> good
Dec 21 00:41:10 <ttuttle> SanMehat: cool
Dec 21 00:41:28 <ttuttle> SanMehat: /me is impatiently waiting for a shiny new Thinkpad to arrive.
Dec 21 00:41:47 <unix_remote> ttuttle: nice.  T61?
Dec 21 00:42:05 <ttuttle> unix_remote: Nope, X200.
Dec 21 00:43:09 <ttuttle> unix_remote: 2.4 GHz CPU, Vista Home Basic (to be replaced with Gentoo), 12.1" 1280x800 LCD, 4 GB RAM, trackpoint (no touchpad!), 250 GB hard drive, no optical drive (lighter), Bluetooth, WiFi (802.11n, Intel), WiMax, AT&T WWAN with GPS, 9-cell battery.
Dec 21 00:43:31 <ttuttle> unix_remote: And I got it about $250 less than the current price thanks to a sales rep who was nearly drooling on my floor to get a commission :)
Dec 21 00:43:50 <unix_remote> ttuttle: nice.  I wish they made a thinkpad that transformed into a hackintosh well enough.
Dec 21 00:44:00 <ttuttle> unix_remote: heh
Dec 21 00:44:06 <ttuttle> unix_remote: I am so psyched to get it.
Dec 21 00:44:09 <unix_remote> ttuttle: got me a T61 with similar specs for around 650 a year go.
Dec 21 00:44:13 <ttuttle> unix_remote: I'm giving my current laptop to my mom with Ubuntu on it.
Dec 21 00:44:38 <ttuttle> unix_remote: Yeah, the X200 is a little pricier 'cause it's ultraportable, and Centrino 2 (newer chipset 'n' stuff).
Dec 21 00:45:12 <unix_remote> ya, i bought tons of warranty as it's destined to be a hand me down.
Dec 21 00:45:14 <ttuttle> unix_remote: Do they generally beat the estimated ship date?
Dec 21 00:45:30 <unix_remote> ttuttle: by a couple weeks yes.
Dec 21 00:45:37 <ttuttle> unix_remote: Both of mine got 3 years, and I'm 2 years into the current one.  I might extend the old one to four.
Dec 21 00:45:41 <ttuttle> unix_remote: Hmm.
Dec 21 00:46:21 <ttuttle> unix_remote: Mine is only about two weeks from now.  I suppose I may get it the week after Christmas.
Dec 21 00:46:57 <ttuttle> unix_remote: (It's 12/30 or 01/02, depending if you ask the web page or a rep.)
Dec 21 00:46:59 <unix_remote> ttuttle: heh, i would say that's a lot of hardware for someone in college, but then I remembered you're paying tuition at CMU ;-P
Dec 21 00:47:24 <ttuttle> unix_remote: :P
Dec 21 00:48:15 <ttuttle> unix_remote: Google internships are nice.  I'm buying my own books and food (a not insignificant expense), replacing my own computer (and giving my parents one for free, unless my dad decides to pay me some small sum for it), and replacing my own computer.
Dec 21 00:48:23 <ttuttle> Er, I just repeated myself repeated myself. :\
Dec 21 00:49:04 <unix_remote> ttuttle: you're interning at google over the winter again?
Dec 21 00:49:30 <ttuttle> unix_remote: No, but I've still got some left from the summer.  I'm hoping to intern again over the summer, and possibly part-time next semester.
Dec 21 01:00:12 <jasta> SanMehat: hehe, good luck in Seattle next week.  we've got a major wind storm moving in right now which should knock out power a bunch of places
Dec 21 01:00:19 <jasta> and about 2-4 more inches on the ground
Dec 21 01:00:29 <jasta> some freezing rain tomorrow, and then possibly another deep freeze all through christmas :)
Dec 21 01:00:47 <jasta> downtown temperatures might end up climbing high enough to melt this crap, but it will still be miserable :)
Dec 21 01:00:57 <jasta> if you go anywhere north or south of the city...you're hosed :)
Dec 21 01:57:01 <bherrmann7> Does android have a flow layout?
Dec 21 01:57:18 <bherrmann7> I just want my imagebuttons to flow one after the other.
Dec 21 01:59:23 <eldenz> (i could think about a hack to simulate a flow layout^^)
Dec 21 01:59:38 <eldenz> (with a gridview)
Dec 21 02:01:37 <bherrmann7> ok. thx.
Dec 21 02:11:34 <bherrmann7> The GridView looks good.   How in the emulator do I rotate the screen (or flip out the keyboard?)
Dec 21 02:11:47 <zinx> bherrmann7: ctrl-f12
Dec 21 02:12:25 <bherrmann7> thx
Dec 21 02:12:55 <eldenz> if you want it to dynamically adapt you could calculate the number of columns that fit in the width (in GridView::onSizeChanged)
Dec 21 02:49:55 <plusminus_> what's the reason that Adsense does not display inside of WebViews but in the Browser-App ?
Dec 21 02:53:35 <bherrmann7> eldenz: my content is all image buttons of the same size, it turns out the view demo's of grid1 and grid2 are doing what I need
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