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Jan 10 04:17:38 <CardinalBiggles> Hrm, I define the version of the code in the AndroidManifest .  Is there a resource that will get me that data?  Do I have to move the version into res/values/strings.xml ?  (If that's even possible.)
Jan 10 04:19:24 <ITechJunkie> Does anyone in here have any experience with Intent-based tabs? I can't seem to get mine to work. Code seems to check out just fine, however it just crashes.
Jan 10 04:20:30 <ITechJunkie> I've tried all of the online tutorials, even copied source from the ApiDemo to a new project. Still wouldn't work for me?
Jan 10 04:20:56 <CardinalBiggles> ITechJunkie, I don't, but the stack trace might help us.
Jan 10 04:21:09 <ITechJunkie> sure, one second.
Jan 10 04:22:04 <CardinalBiggles> ITechJunkie, Pastebin, please.
Jan 10 04:22:40 <ITechJunkie> sure thing
Jan 10 04:24:52 <ITechJunkie> CardinalBiggles: I've got the "console" tab open in eclipse. There are no errors. Am I looking in the right spot?
Jan 10 04:25:02 <ITechJunkie> Please bear with me, i'm new to eclipse
Jan 10 04:26:03 <CardinalBiggles> ITechJunkie, I don't know Eclipse at all, so I can't help.  I use 'adb logcat' while the emulator is running.
Jan 10 04:26:16 <ITechJunkie> okay, that helps
Jan 10 04:26:22 <CardinalBiggles> If you haven't seen this, then you're close to answering your own question. :)
Jan 10 04:28:17 <ITechJunkie> alrighty, I have lots of stuff in logcat... one sec, lemme grab the useful stuff
Jan 10 04:30:12 <ITechJunkie> Okay, Here is my logcat output. http://pastebin.com/d30e104bb
Jan 10 04:31:22 <ITechJunkie> it looks like I need to declare one of my classes in the manifest
Jan 10 04:32:10 <CardinalBiggles> :)
Jan 10 04:32:41 <ITechJunkie> CardinalBiggles: thanks bro, I didn't know about logcat.
Jan 10 04:34:27 <CardinalBiggles> Careful, ITechJunkie.  Give me another few days and I'll have you abandoning Eclipse altogether and using your favorite text editor and ant.
Jan 10 04:34:35 <CardinalBiggles> Dang.  Bed time.
Jan 10 04:34:50 <ITechJunkie> CardinalBiggles: i'll hold you to that :)
Jan 10 10:25:03 <digitalspaghetti> is there any way to get the browser to NOT report as the android browser
Jan 10 10:25:16 <digitalspaghetti> but just as a generic Mozilla 4.0 or something ?
Jan 10 10:25:59 <digitalspaghetti> or if I hae
Jan 10 10:26:12 <digitalspaghetti> *have a web view, do i have to do anything with the context?
Jan 10 10:26:31 <digitalspaghetti> the reason is I have an app that when you load it, the first action is to authorise the app with oAuth
Jan 10 10:27:03 <digitalspaghetti> so I invoke a webkit view, which comes up fine and asks me the username and password.  But when i click login, it invokes another window and takes me to the mobile site
Jan 10 10:27:07 <digitalspaghetti> (for Brightkite)
Jan 10 10:27:20 <digitalspaghetti> which doesn't let me authoise the app
Jan 10 10:30:56 <digitalspaghetti> it's al
Jan 10 10:31:20 <digitalspaghetti> *ignore last line
Jan 10 11:23:46 * gcinzh pokes his snout out from under an alpine rock and squints at the bright light.
Jan 10 11:30:53 <digitalspaghetti> hey gcinzh
Jan 10 12:08:29 <Falcon4ever> Is there a way to find out if a listview is scrolled all the way to the bottom? (like some event?) or do i need to do it manual by comparing the computeVerticalScrollRange()  with the current position?)
Jan 10 12:11:50 <digitalspaghetti> hrmm, anyone used WebSettings with a WebView before?  Not sure if I am using it right
Jan 10 12:12:01 <digitalspaghetti> and it's still invoking another webkit window when i try log in :|
Jan 10 15:15:23 <digitalspaghetti> http://www.anddev.org/viewtopic.php?p=16204 is anyone can help???
Jan 10 15:17:45 <chaos_> hi! has anyone tryed to compile the koolu-android source?
Jan 10 15:22:17 <gambler> not me, ive tested the image tho.
Jan 10 15:36:07 <savid> Is there a way to set a different color for the "disabled" state of a TextView?
Jan 10 15:37:58 <chaos_> i try to compile the android source for my freerunner ... i did the step by step guide from trac.koolu.org but when i try to "make TARGET_PRODUCT=freerunner" /  i always get this error: build/core/product_config.mk:141: *** No matches for product "freerunner".
Jan 10 15:39:41 <savid> chaos_,  try #android.   This channel is more for app development.
Jan 10 15:40:53 <eldenz> he did crosspost  ;>
Jan 10 15:42:54 <chaos_> ok, sorry!
Jan 10 15:43:15 <chaos_> ;)
Jan 10 15:43:22 <Falcon4ever> eldenz: punishment?
Jan 10 15:44:24 <eldenz> fish slap?
Jan 10 15:46:59 <Falcon4ever> trout?
Jan 10 15:50:11 <eldenz> : )
Jan 10 15:51:57 <suzaq> hi
Jan 10 16:03:02 <digitalspaghetti> SWEET!  Finally fixed my issue
Jan 10 16:03:12 <digitalspaghetti> this helped: http://www.anddev.org/force_browsing_activities_to_stay_in_original_webview-t2530.html
Jan 10 16:06:03 <savid> Is there a reference for the tags that go in styles.xml? (ie, the different types of  <item:name="android:xxxxxx"> ) ?
Jan 10 16:07:56 <savid> I'm trying to see if there's a property for the disabled state of a TextView
Jan 10 16:10:27 <eldenz> savid, http://code.google.com/android/reference/android/R.styleable.html
Jan 10 16:10:56 <eldenz> strip the `ClassName_'
Jan 10 16:16:48 <savid> eldenz,   hmm..  ok,  so I see "state_enabled",  but I'm not sure how I'd use that within my style:     http://pastebin.com/m72169abb
Jan 10 16:17:53 <savid> (actually is says  "enabled" is deprecated and to use "state_enabled")
Jan 10 16:18:58 <savid> just not sure how to make it use one color when it's enabled, and a different color when it's disabled...
Jan 10 16:19:56 <eldenz> i don't know but the Theme_textColor* properties look promising
Jan 10 16:21:46 <savid> yeah, I know how to set textColor,  but the problem is getting it to use a different color when the TextView is in the disabled state
Jan 10 16:22:10 <eldenz> that's what the wildcard `*' was for
Jan 10 16:22:23 <savid> oh..
Jan 10 16:22:25 * savid looks
Jan 10 16:22:25 <eldenz> there are many other color properties that i assume might be used instead if you disable it
Jan 10 16:22:52 <eldenz> or you could look in the source which color is used while disabled
Jan 10 16:27:15 <savid> hmm
Jan 10 16:27:27 <savid> It's kind of confusing
Jan 10 16:28:17 <savid> I mean, it's got Theme_textColorSecondaryNoDisable ,  which says "Dim text color",   but it says "This does not differentiate the disabled state. "
Jan 10 16:28:26 <savid> I have no idea what it means by that :-P
Jan 10 16:29:00 <savid> tried grepping through the source..  can't seem to find where the default disabled style is defined
Jan 10 16:35:35 <savid> oohhh..  I think I see.
Jan 10 16:36:02 <savid> I think I need to do:    <item android:state_enabled="false" android:textColor="#blabla" />
Jan 10 16:37:01 <savid> or not
Jan 10 16:37:25 <savid> hmmm
Jan 10 16:42:29 <savid> Looks like all the instances of "state_enabled" in the source are used within <selector> tags....  wonder if that's what I need to use
Jan 10 16:46:06 <savid> Ahh, perhaps I make a  <selector>,  and then point textColor to that?
Jan 10 16:46:12 * savid tries it
Jan 10 16:54:20 <savid> ugh
Jan 10 16:54:52 <savid> got runtime exception
Jan 10 16:59:11 <savid> Ah good, got it to work :-)     (just mis-spelled the <selector> tag)
Jan 10 17:08:49 <ErnestoGuevara> not a lot of traffic over here, eh?
Jan 10 17:09:02 <ErnestoGuevara> everyone just uses #android?
Jan 10 17:09:18 <savid> ErnestoGuevara,  this channel is for app developers
Jan 10 17:09:40 <ErnestoGuevara> though i see app questions on #android.. and never on here
Jan 10 17:10:06 <savid> ErnestoGuevara, then you haven't hung out here long enough :-P
Jan 10 17:10:21 <ErnestoGuevara> but if there are active humans here... has anyone seen their app sometimes take 800ms to load and sometimes 50000ms?
Jan 10 17:10:30 <ErnestoGuevara> i'm super-stumped
Jan 10 17:10:41 <ErnestoGuevara> http://www.anddev.org/viewtopic.php?p=16210#16210
Jan 10 17:11:06 <savid> 50000 ms?  that's like 50 seconds, right?
Jan 10 17:11:11 <ErnestoGuevara> precisely
Jan 10 17:11:16 <savid> yikes
Jan 10 17:11:22 <ErnestoGuevara> all my logging says that my app is ready to go in under 3000ms, always
Jan 10 17:11:48 <ErnestoGuevara> but then the magic line from android "Displayed activity com.android.slots/.SlotsAndroid: xxxx ms" takes arbitrarily long to show up
Jan 10 17:12:02 <ErnestoGuevara> and my app is unresponsive/doesn't draw to the screen until that line comes up
Jan 10 17:12:13 <savid> never seen that.  Does the slowdown occur before your main activity initializes?
Jan 10 17:12:14 <TD> ErnestoGuevara: not seen that myself
Jan 10 17:12:30 <TD> ErnestoGuevara: and yeah this channel is quieter. i think everyone guesses #android and then doesn't find out about #android-dev. that's what happened for me
Jan 10 17:12:35 <ErnestoGuevara> ..even my onDraw is getting called within 3000ms, but it doesn't have an effect on the screen
Jan 10 17:12:38 <ErnestoGuevara> :-(
Jan 10 17:12:57 <ErnestoGuevara> TD: For appdev-specific stuff, do you think more chat happens there or here?
Jan 10 17:13:27 <TD> *shrug* lurk in both. what really matters is, where are the people who can answer your questions? and they seem to also be in both
Jan 10 17:13:47 <ErnestoGuevara> nod.  I just hate to double-post questions if it's not necessary
Jan 10 17:14:00 <ErnestoGuevara> and it does sort of seem like this channel is a subset of the lurkers on #android
Jan 10 17:14:05 <savid> eldenz,   I just realized I could use <item name="textColor">@android:primary_text_dark</item>.   Kind of went the roundabout way of figuring it out,  but hey, I learned something about how <selector>'s work  :-)
Jan 10 17:15:36 <uscheller> how do you do the profiling - is there any tool for it?
Jan 10 17:18:00 <ErnestoGuevara> uscheller: I'm just inserting a bunch of Log.d messages based off System.currentTimeMillis()
Jan 10 17:18:08 <uscheller> hrhr
Jan 10 17:18:18 <ErnestoGuevara> hr what?
Jan 10 17:18:33 <TD> there's traceview
Jan 10 17:18:35 <uscheller> thats what i did with my app also
Jan 10 17:18:41 <ErnestoGuevara> oh, right
Jan 10 17:18:42 <TD> http://code.google.com/android/reference/traceview.html
Jan 10 17:18:46 <ErnestoGuevara> i'll have to look into that
Jan 10 17:18:57 <uscheller> me too :)
Jan 10 17:19:38 <ErnestoGuevara> says traceview not so good with threads, though :-/
Jan 10 17:31:14 <TD> is there a way to see why certain processes die? i mean, get insight into the resource management decisions of the device
Jan 10 17:31:20 <TD> i guess it's controlled by the system server or something
Jan 10 17:34:51 <TD> i see this whilst testing my app
Jan 10 17:34:52 <TD> I/ActivityManager(   51): Process android.process.acore (pid 1564) has died.
Jan 10 17:34:52 <TD> I/ActivityManager(   51): Low Memory: No more background processes.
Jan 10 17:35:00 <TD> which sounds bad. but, i don't get it - my app isn't especially memory intensive
Jan 10 17:35:04 <TD> all it does is open a web view
Jan 10 17:39:26 <ErnestoGuevara> TD, you're aware of the basic process-culling strategy?
Jan 10 17:39:32 <ErnestoGuevara> beyond that, I couldn't help you.
Jan 10 17:40:07 <TD> yeah, i know the theory. just trying to figure out why my phone is so badly out of memory already
Jan 10 17:40:22 <ErnestoGuevara> then i'm no use to you :-/
Jan 10 17:43:23 <TD> system_server has a VSS of 214mb!
Jan 10 17:43:27 <TD> what the ....
Jan 10 17:43:42 <ErnestoGuevara> VSS?
Jan 10 17:43:47 <TD> virtual set size
Jan 10 17:43:49 <ErnestoGuevara> is that its memory use?
Jan 10 17:44:07 <TD> well "memory use" in any modern os is sort of hard to quantify. the closest would be rss
Jan 10 17:44:43 <TD> in which case system_server is still in the lead, pinning ~18mb into ram
Jan 10 17:45:04 <TD> although weirdly, streamfurious still has a 12mb process running, i guess for its music playing service. but i don't have streamfurious currently open
Jan 10 17:45:18 <TD> com.android.music is also running, although i haven't used the music app since yesterday
Jan 10 17:46:07 <TD> i guess the music activities never explicitly shut down their services and so when ram gets free again, the system restarts them
Jan 10 17:46:21 <ErnestoGuevara> i may be out of my depth here, but can't those things run as services even if the activity is killed?
Jan 10 17:46:29 <ErnestoGuevara> right
Jan 10 17:47:02 <TD> yes, that's the whole idea. i assumed the music players would shut down their services when not actually playing music
Jan 10 17:47:08 <TD> apparently that assumption was flawed
Jan 10 17:47:22 <ErnestoGuevara> yeah that doesn't seem like very good citizenship
Jan 10 17:47:43 <ErnestoGuevara> it's like running a windows box with 30 different quickstart services, each of which thinks its doing you a favor
Jan 10 17:48:26 <TD> yeah. well. i haven't figured out yet if the explicit lifecycle android uses is better or worse than traditional virtual memory.
Jan 10 17:48:35 <TD> i suspect better. but can't quantify why :) even so it's lame that this crap is still running.
Jan 10 17:48:46 <TD> i mean it puts extra load on the cpu to constantly spin them up and down
Jan 10 17:49:46 <ErnestoGuevara> well it pretty much totally avoids paging that way, right?
Jan 10 17:50:24 <ErnestoGuevara> which as I understand it would just not go over well at all on the devices (not like goes "well" on desktop OSes either)
Jan 10 17:51:43 <ErnestoGuevara> like I think the android licecycle will even kill off the active process if it ends up paging for more than an instant
Jan 10 17:51:47 <ErnestoGuevara> *lifecycle
Jan 10 17:52:03 <TD> there's no swap so it can't page out the heap. the only paging that takes place is loading/freeing code pages i guess.
Jan 10 17:52:32 <TD> and yeah, i expect forcing apps to save only the data they really need out to storage results in less IO than swapping out the heap transparently
Jan 10 17:52:38 <TD> PITA for developers of course :) but for the best
Jan 10 17:54:41 <ErnestoGuevara> though there's a certain elegance to IoC sort of frameworks
Jan 10 17:55:19 <ErnestoGuevara> kind of nice to already have things chunked out in "call me when you feel like it" segments rather than controlling it all yourself
Jan 10 17:59:39 <TD> IoC?
Jan 10 18:01:04 <ErnestoGuevara> Inversion of Control
Jan 10 18:01:14 <TD> ah, i ee
Jan 10 18:01:16 <ErnestoGuevara> where some other higher power is calling your methods
Jan 10 18:01:17 <TD> see
Jan 10 18:01:20 <ErnestoGuevara> like Spring, etc
Jan 10 18:01:42 <TD> yes. they have their disadvantages though. i have not yet figured out a nice way to catch all exceptions my code generates (eg for error reporting)
Jan 10 18:01:50 <TD> i think that'll have to be a framework feature
Jan 10 18:04:11 <ErnestoGuevara> I'm gonna lose my mind with this loading problem.
Jan 10 18:04:31 <ErnestoGuevara> traceview doesn't seem to reflect any sort of delay
Jan 10 18:04:40 <ErnestoGuevara> gonna have to get into the source code i think :-(
Jan 10 18:05:16 <ErnestoGuevara> do you know if there's a way to get source for an XP box?  The stuff I found before said you need *nix or mac
Jan 10 18:08:58 <TD> not off hand, sorry. does git not run on windows?
Jan 10 18:09:36 <TD> http://code.google.com/p/msysgit/ ?
Jan 10 18:09:47 <TD> or you could just browse it using gitweb
Jan 10 18:10:47 <TD> i wish there was something as nice as Interface Builder for android
Jan 10 18:10:55 <TD> the eclipse layout designer is pretty rudimentary
Jan 10 18:11:04 <ErnestoGuevara> oh, if there's a gitweb, I think that's what I'm looking for
Jan 10 18:11:09 <ErnestoGuevara> I don't think git will run on windows
Jan 10 18:11:46 <ErnestoGuevara> have you looked at droidraw?
Jan 10 18:12:59 <TD> the applet in the web page?
Jan 10 18:13:06 <TD> i tried it, but it didn't seem much better
Jan 10 18:13:26 <TD> my problem is i have a lot of widgets that start with no content in them. so they are invisible in the designer.
Jan 10 18:13:29 <TD> not very helpful
Jan 10 18:13:40 <ErnestoGuevara> nod
Jan 10 18:14:56 <TD> ErnestoGuevara: btw, are you sure your app should be under com.android?
Jan 10 18:15:08 <TD> isn't that reserved for stuff from the android team?
Jan 10 18:15:26 <ErnestoGuevara> hm you have a point
Jan 10 18:15:37 <ErnestoGuevara> i started with lunarlander
Jan 10 18:15:50 <ErnestoGuevara> and haven't removed all traces of it yet
Jan 10 18:15:53 <TD> ok
Jan 10 18:15:57 <zinx> the general idea is to put it under a domain you control (i.e., if you have ErnestoGuevara.name, you would make it name.ErnestoGuevara.foo)
Jan 10 18:16:28 <TD> ErnestoGuevara: so your issue is that the initial methods, onCreate and onDraw are called very fast, but then you don't actually see the stuff you drew in onDraw for a long time?
Jan 10 18:16:47 <TD> if you post your code somewhere i'll take a look
Jan 10 18:17:38 <ErnestoGuevara> just refactored the package name..
Jan 10 18:18:34 <ErnestoGuevara> TD, I appreciate it, though I think I'd want to clean it up a bit before letting it see the light of day
Jan 10 18:18:48 <TD> ok, no problem
Jan 10 18:19:39 <ErnestoGuevara> but yeah, the problem is that my activity, view, and drawing thread are all ready in an acceptable timeframe, but then android doesn't say its ready for a long time, and it's not actually responsive or actually hitting the screen buffer until then
Jan 10 18:20:02 <ErnestoGuevara> even though profiler is telling me that during that time I'm spending 90% of my time or so in my onDraw method
Jan 10 18:20:04 * gcinzh solicits suggestions for how he can cause a CPU to max out, easily ...
Jan 10 18:20:39 <gcinzh> (I have two G1s, one with an extended battery, and I want to run identical routines on them while testing how long they last
Jan 10 18:20:43 <gcinzh> )
Jan 10 18:20:48 <ErnestoGuevara> gcinz do you think "do {327984.3245/3487.345} while (true);" would do it?
Jan 10 18:20:58 <gcinzh> well, I have:
Jan 10 18:21:05 <TD> you'd need to hold a partial wake lock
Jan 10 18:21:06 <gcinzh> while (true) {
Jan 10 18:21:06 <gcinzh> 				iteration++;
Jan 10 18:21:06 <gcinzh> 				Log.d(this.toString(), "This is a log message: " + Long.toString(iteration));
Jan 10 18:21:09 <gcinzh> 				num = Float.floatToIntBits(num + r.nextLong() / r.nextLong());
Jan 10 18:21:10 <gcinzh> 			}	
Jan 10 18:21:17 <gcinzh> hmmm. damn paste ...
Jan 10 18:21:32 <gcinzh> and it is using 0% cpu
Jan 10 18:21:44 <gcinzh> num = Float.floatToIntBits(num + r.nextLong() / r.nextLong());
Jan 10 18:22:13 <gcinzh> (in its own thread)
Jan 10 18:22:22 <ErnestoGuevara> that's peculiar
Jan 10 18:22:37 <gcinzh> and I print a Chronometer, so I know it's running ok
Jan 10 18:22:48 <gcinzh> and logcat shows no indication that the runnable thread died
Jan 10 18:23:08 <gcinzh> come to think of it ...
Jan 10 18:24:04 <gcinzh> y'know ... I'm a dumbass.
Jan 10 18:24:07 <gcinzh> nm ... ;-)
Jan 10 18:24:51 <gcinzh> ok, it's working now
Jan 10 18:25:41 <ErnestoGuevara> what happened?
Jan 10 18:25:44 <gcinzh> Any idea whether/how an app can get the % CPU it's using ?
Jan 10 18:26:04 <gcinzh> EG: actually *running* thread.start() helps ..
Jan 10 18:26:06 <gcinzh> <blush>
Jan 10 18:26:12 <ErnestoGuevara> ohhhhhhhhhhhhh
Jan 10 18:26:13 <ErnestoGuevara> yeah
Jan 10 18:27:04 <gcinzh> any idea how I can get %cpu used programmatically ?
Jan 10 18:28:45 * gcinzh decides to try  threadCpuTimeNanos
Jan 10 18:29:43 <ErnestoGuevara> wow, TD: I just ran my app after changing the package name, and it 5 tries it hasn't taken longer than 2 seconds to fully load
Jan 10 18:30:06 <ErnestoGuevara> gcinzh: no idea :-/
Jan 10 18:30:06 <TD> weird! maybe you have some garbage left on the emulator?
Jan 10 18:30:24 <ErnestoGuevara> how do you mean?  I mean i've had this problem across emulator restarts
Jan 10 18:30:25 <gcinzh> TD: yeah, there's loads of garbage..... (everything *I* wrote :-P )
Jan 10 18:30:41 <TD> ErnestoGuevara: not sure why renaming it'd do that then ....
Jan 10 18:30:48 <ErnestoGuevara> yeah I have NO idea
Jan 10 18:31:02 <ErnestoGuevara> unless there's reflection going on that treats com.android classes differently
Jan 10 18:31:18 <ErnestoGuevara> i mean, we don't run our classes ourselves, it's the fancy loader thinger.. could do whatever it wants
Jan 10 18:32:16 <jasta> yawn
Jan 10 18:32:56 <ErnestoGuevara> jasta you just made 6 different lurkers yawn
Jan 10 18:34:57 <gcinzh> bbl. kids' bath+bed
Jan 10 18:35:41 <mib_hgfbpbft> hey can anyone help me with an sd card question?
Jan 10 18:36:03 <ErnestoGuevara> cartoonmonkey: I just created one and used it, but that's about all I know
Jan 10 18:36:15 <eggy> there
Jan 10 18:36:24 <ErnestoGuevara> for emulator, that is
Jan 10 18:36:41 <cartoonmonkey> I've moved my browser cache over to sdcard, as well as apps / appscache..
Jan 10 18:36:54 <cartoonmonkey> and now sdcard is "read only filesystem"
Jan 10 18:37:59 <ErnestoGuevara> egads
Jan 10 18:42:14 <anno^da_> Can someone tell me the right way to enable/disable GPS/Wifi ?
Jan 10 18:50:29 <TD> hmmm
Jan 10 18:50:35 <TD> imageswitching images of different sizes is pretty ugly
Jan 10 18:50:49 <TD> the reflow happens async with the animation, so it animates, then pops to the center
Jan 10 18:53:09 <ErnestoGuevara> ugly
Jan 10 18:54:18 <TD> presumably i can fix that and ship my own imageswitcher though
Jan 10 18:56:54 <gcinzh> mib: sure, I'll give you a question.
Jan 10 18:57:16 <gcinzh> mib: you promise to help me with an answer ;)
Jan 10 18:57:31 <gcinzh> mib: (ie. Just ask, and if someone can help with your specific Q, perhaps they'll chime in)
Jan 10 19:01:57 <ErnestoGuevara> gc, he did.. after he switched to a different nick
Jan 10 19:02:16 <gcinzh> EG: indeed.
Jan 10 19:02:42 <ErnestoGuevara> in-deed
Jan 10 19:03:05 <gcinzh> Ernest: just saw your post to the list
Jan 10 19:03:31 <ErnestoGuevara> did you also see followup post?
Jan 10 19:03:43 <gcinzh> yes
Jan 10 19:03:57 <ErnestoGuevara> it's very peculiar
Jan 10 19:04:27 <ErnestoGuevara> but i'm currently loading happily
Jan 10 19:05:25 <gcinzh> Cool
Jan 10 19:05:49 * gcinzh realises from TDs signoff msg, that he works with him
Jan 10 19:12:56 <digitalspaghetti> hrmm, when I'm in an activity, how do i exit the app?  I have this: http://paste.ifies.org/224  but when finish() is called, it doesn't exit the app, it goes back a screen
Jan 10 19:13:28 <gcinzh> When you fire an intent, you can specify not to put it on the history stack
Jan 10 19:13:57 <digitalspaghetti> ahh.  well i really need to work out my app workflow then
Jan 10 19:14:25 <gcinzh> So if you know you don't need to go "back" to the caller, then do something like:
Jan 10 19:14:50 <digitalspaghetti> since my app on first run needs to invoke a web view to authorise the app, then once thats done it's not needed again, except from a settings page
Jan 10 19:15:05 <digitalspaghetti> on all future runs, the app will just loads up.  I'm also thinking of having it as a background service
Jan 10 19:16:14 <gcinzh> http://pastebin.com/d28c290f1
Jan 10 19:16:25 <digitalspaghetti> but the only java example of oAuth i can find is out of date :|
Jan 10 19:21:26 <digitalspaghetti> if anyone fancies trying to help me figure it out, i'll make it up into a tutorial
Jan 10 19:22:58 <digitalspaghetti> gcinzh: thats cool, but it still goes back to my first screen before it exits
Jan 10 19:23:05 <digitalspaghetti> to i have to exit again
Jan 10 19:25:10 <gcinzh> digi: I don't see you starting a new Activity anywhere in that src
Jan 10 19:26:25 <digitalspaghetti> hold on a sec
Jan 10 19:27:31 <digitalspaghetti> http://paste.ifies.org/225, http://paste.ifies.org/226, http://paste.ifies.org/227
Jan 10 19:27:43 <digitalspaghetti> thats the activities in the order they are processed
Jan 10 19:36:39 <anno^da_> Does someone know how we can easily disable GPS and Bluetooth (and perhaps 3G) ?
Jan 10 19:37:02 <anno^da_> I found Wifi but I can't find sth about the other ones.
Jan 10 19:38:00 <digitalspaghetti> it is possible, it;s in the toggle settings app
Jan 10 19:38:20 <anno^da_> I know that :)
Jan 10 19:38:29 <anno^da_> But I can't find how.
Jan 10 19:39:18 <anno^da_> 3G is only possible via settings thats what I know but the other ones can be disabled via code the question is how :)
Jan 10 19:40:25 <digitalspaghetti> is there no sql demos in the 1.0 sdk?
Jan 10 19:40:35 <digitalspaghetti> i can't find any, and online i can only find old demos
Jan 10 19:51:25 <ErnestoGuevara> digital, the notepad tutorial on the main android site uses some sql
Jan 10 19:53:45 <digitalspaghetti> ahh, thanks
Jan 10 19:57:45 <anno^da_> http://code.google.com/intl/de-DE/android/reference/android/provider/Settings.System.html  <- This is just for information right? I won't be able to change something in this provider right?
Jan 10 20:31:37 <anno^da_> oh fine we have to use hardware test to change the screen brightness instantly
Jan 10 21:45:05 <anno^da_> Someone kowing how we could access the sync settings ?
Jan 10 21:45:14 <anno^da_> the permission is available: READ_SYNC_SETTINGS
Jan 10 21:45:31 <anno^da_> but I can't find the way to change it. This part is missing in the sources.
Jan 11 01:59:13 <andrewoid> can you programatically change the icon of an application?
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