**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Sun Jul 05 02:59:58 2009 Jul 05 03:46:25 Hi, all. I'm fairly inexperienced with Android and am trying to implement a service. However, I'm getting a Force Close notice as soon as I start my app in the emulator. I've put logging statements into all of my functions, and I'm not seeing anything come out in Eclipse's console. How can I figure out what's going wrong? Jul 05 03:48:02 drop to a shell and run adb logcat Jul 05 03:52:14 jasonlee: Thanks, that seems to point me in the right direction, at least. Jul 05 03:52:52 yep, it's the place you'll find all the exceptions that get thrown.. Jul 05 03:52:52 I'm getting a NullPointerException while trying to instantiate ComponentInfo, so off to Google for me. Jul 05 03:57:05 jasonlee: Thanks, that got me pointed in the right direction. I'm doing a massive refactoring at the moment, and I missed undoing one of my blind paths. Jul 05 04:42:10 could some explain how i could use the base that the "imageswitcher" example in the sample apis does. but i dont need the imageswitcher itself nor the gallery, i want to on "next" button load the next image id Jul 05 04:43:40 please Jul 05 04:51:47 i wish it didnt disconnect me -.- Jul 05 05:00:23 Any idea why in a class extending Service, in the Stub, I could have a "public Section[] GetSections() throws RemoteException" that gives a warning about not being called, and outside of that a function that calls that that says "The method GetSections() is undefined?" Jul 05 05:22:53 hey Jul 05 05:22:59 ive got a quick noob question Jul 05 05:23:07 in eclipse im trying to make an android porject Jul 05 05:23:10 project* Jul 05 05:23:37 but i can get passed naming it as i need a min sdk vesion....any ideas? Jul 05 08:00:36 Good Morning Jul 05 08:00:39 :) Jul 05 08:00:41 or Night Jul 05 08:00:47 depends on where you are ;) Jul 05 08:05:12 God_Like: you need to select a SDK version (android 1.1, 1.5 or google apis) Jul 05 08:05:22 if you don't need maps, just select 1.5 Jul 05 08:05:38 then it should auto set the SDK version (which is 3 btw) Jul 05 08:19:28 Is there someone who can maybe help me with my HTC Magic and WiFi Tether for Root Users? At first start I became a message that i would not have a rooted device - but i do, i checked it again by my Windows PC, command line and batch from this package (sorry i dont know the name at the moment) and it tells me uid=0 and guid=0. I restarted Android and didnt recieve the message anymore but everytime i click the tethering-Button I Jul 05 08:19:28 recieve the message "Unable to start tethering, please try again" Jul 05 08:22:43 WiFi and Bluetooth activated, i recieve the same message on both modes Jul 05 08:26:44 It seems WLAN is deactivating itself again and again, altough im working in bluetooth tether mode at the moment Jul 05 08:29:44 Morning Jul 05 08:38:27 Morning :) Jul 05 08:48:32 JohnScot: best asking in #android Jul 05 08:48:41 this is more for developing code Jul 05 08:49:15 ok ill do thanks, i just dont want to disturb the converstaion at the moment in android ill wait a bit :) Jul 05 11:08:37 how is the lookup of a phone number done correctly? Jul 05 12:59:49 hello, android developers ;) Jul 05 13:01:46 <_Auron_> moorning Jul 05 13:06:46 tell me your opinions... i'm not sure that android's openGL ES can compete with iphone 3gs graphics. i'm talking about games developing. what do you think? Jul 05 13:23:23 <_Auron_> daliz: android or a speciifc device? openGL is hardware-oriented Jul 05 13:24:13 _Auron_: well, then i'd like to talk about htc magic / hero. Jul 05 13:27:56 <_Auron_> I have absolutely no idea what the hardware is like in anything other than the G1 as I don't own any other device (and cannot afford to own another device) Jul 05 13:28:29 can someone tell me what is the best way to look up a contect for a phone number? Jul 05 13:29:08 the numbers could be in the format... +491234 or 1234 or 00491234 Jul 05 13:29:21 driving me nuts Jul 05 13:30:14 do i have to parse the incoming phone number and do a like search? Jul 05 13:30:32 after trimming away the country code or 0 at the beginning? Jul 05 14:04:02 Hi, I'm kinda new to developing for android Jul 05 14:04:22 and I just used the eclispe plugin to create a signed apk. file Jul 05 14:04:43 and I transfered it to my device and attempted to run it Jul 05 14:04:47 but I got an error Jul 05 14:04:58 there was an error parsing the package Jul 05 14:05:02 could anyone help me with this? Jul 05 14:09:05 Hej, can someone give me a hint on how to invoke the AIDL tool to generate java-interface-classes from an .aidl definition file? Jul 05 14:11:18 the dev-guide only says "If you are not using the plugin, you should run AIDL first" Jul 05 15:21:03 * FJ_Sanchez hello! Jul 05 15:21:21 One question, is there any way to use bluetooth in an app? Jul 05 15:24:56 HI all, I'm working on my first android app, and could use some direction. I've gone through the hello world, and notepad code, but am trying to do some touch based interfaces. Where should I start? Jul 05 15:27:59 hey brom i was there like 2 weeks ago Jul 05 15:28:10 what do you need help with for the touch based stuff? Jul 05 15:29:17 Well, I've got my UI setup (very simple), but I just don't know how to launch code logic, based on the "up swipe". Jul 05 15:29:31 I think I need a new Activity Jul 05 15:29:52 hm Jul 05 15:30:29 I'm coming from php and C# so the Java environment is a little "overhwleming" Jul 05 15:30:46 i used onTouchEvent ( MotionEvent event ) Jul 05 15:30:50 to mange touch stuff Jul 05 15:30:57 i came from C++ and C Jul 05 15:31:19 it confused me a bit too Jul 05 15:31:54 but to do stuff when a motion event happens Jul 05 15:31:58 im using Jul 05 15:32:27 if ( event.getAction() == MotionEvent.[insert event here Jul 05 15:32:28 ] Jul 05 15:32:33 ) { Jul 05 15:32:46 to get the finger location Jul 05 15:32:48 i used Jul 05 15:32:55 xm = event.getX() Jul 05 15:33:06 ym = event.getY() Jul 05 15:33:53 this could help Jul 05 15:33:54 http://developer.android.com/reference/android/view/package-summary.html Jul 05 15:34:12 any idea about bluetooth in Android? Jul 05 15:35:03 ryan: this might help, depending on what you are doing : http://developer.android.com/reference/android/view/GestureDetector.html Jul 05 15:35:03 And this if block just goes right in the "main" public class? Jul 05 15:35:38 ryan: sorry that link was for brombomb Jul 05 15:35:47 thanks jasonlee Jul 05 15:35:51 thanks Ryan_ Jul 05 15:36:12 hey jasonlee Jul 05 15:36:19 i actually have a problem too if you could help Jul 05 15:36:52 i may or may not be able to help, what's your problem? Jul 05 15:37:00 I have a program that takes the finger position using getX() and getY() Jul 05 15:37:09 and then outputs a point at that location Jul 05 15:37:16 this works fine in the emulator Jul 05 15:37:27 but when i transfer to the real device Jul 05 15:37:44 i get random points all over the place and other parts of my program stop working too Jul 05 15:38:41 ryan: that's weird, if it works on the emu it should work on the device.. are you using the same target platform? Jul 05 15:38:55 i believe so Jul 05 15:39:07 i followed the instructions on the website Jul 05 15:39:46 the strange thing is that it also affects my collision detection Jul 05 15:40:14 and it works fine if I don't use getX() Jul 05 15:40:18 and getY() Jul 05 15:40:35 ryan: yeah, i'm not sure what's going on there... Jul 05 15:41:30 public boolean onTouchEvent (MotionEvent event) Jul 05 15:41:32 { Jul 05 15:41:33 // Gets the mouse position Jul 05 15:41:35 if ( event.getAction() == MotionEvent.ACTION_DOWN ){ Jul 05 15:41:36 Jul 05 15:41:38 fd = true; Jul 05 15:41:39 Jul 05 15:41:41 } Jul 05 15:41:42 if ( event.getAction() == MotionEvent.ACTION_UP){ Jul 05 15:41:44 Jul 05 15:41:45 fd = false; Jul 05 15:41:47 } Jul 05 15:41:49 Jul 05 15:41:50 xm = event.getRawX(); Jul 05 15:41:52 ym = event.getRawY(); Jul 05 15:41:53 Jul 05 15:41:55 return true; Jul 05 15:41:56 } Jul 05 15:41:58 is my fucntion Jul 05 15:42:03 do you see anything wrong with it? Jul 05 15:42:05 i just changed it to put Raw in there btw Jul 05 15:44:40 hi all, does anyone know how to get the Contacts.People ID ? Jul 05 15:45:04 tried People._id - but always returns 0 Jul 05 15:51:17 sorry, sorted :) Jul 05 16:02:12 Ryan_ or jasonlee_ is there a code example of gesturedetector or motion events? Jul 05 16:02:48 idk Jul 05 16:03:41 it would prolly be in here if ther eis though Jul 05 16:03:42 http://developer.android.com/guide/samples/ApiDemos/src/com/example/android/apis/view/index.html Jul 05 16:04:32 oh Jul 05 16:04:34 http://developer.android.com/guide/samples/ApiDemos/src/com/example/android/apis/graphics/TouchPaint.html Jul 05 16:05:07 thanks Jul 05 16:05:35 np Jul 05 16:22:45 hiya folks Jul 05 16:23:03 when i try to retrive a gps position sometimes it takes SOO long , is there anyway to do a timeout? Jul 05 16:32:49 AndyArmstrong1: Could you run the "Get GPS Position" code in a thread? I think there's a way there to say "Okay, give up." Or perhaps your "Get GPS code" should be a service? Jul 05 16:44:32 am just gona do a quick remove thing Jul 05 16:45:12 what about disabling the way an app changes when u rotate the phone Jul 05 16:45:15 can u stop that from happening Jul 05 16:45:31 like disable the phone orienatation and try to change the display Jul 05 16:48:25 AndyArmstrong1: I remember running across something like that when I had a problem that would result from that, but I fixed that by changing to a service. Jul 05 16:48:31 And now my app is offically far enough along to be useful. Jul 05 16:58:25 hello Jul 05 16:58:59 hello Jul 05 16:59:15 I am Japanese Jul 05 16:59:47 I have complate my android application and entryed in Android market Jul 05 17:00:09 anybody tell me how to use drawable folder as a db, so i can call the images onnext button to move to next id Jul 05 17:01:11 but it can't hit in android market by serch Jul 05 17:04:31 ? Jul 05 17:04:54 does anybody know how to disable the phone orienatation that tries to change the screen orientation Jul 05 17:08:52 ... Jul 05 17:14:04 AndyArmstrong1, Have u entryed ur soft in adroid market? Jul 05 17:14:14 am releasing it tonight i think Jul 05 17:15:42 oic Jul 05 17:15:56 y Jul 05 17:15:58 AndyArmstrong1, where do u live? Jul 05 17:16:02 scotland Jul 05 17:16:03 why Jul 05 17:16:32 because I am interested about u Jul 05 17:16:38 ok! Jul 05 17:16:45 I live in Japanese Jul 05 17:16:50 Japan Jul 05 17:16:50 cool Jul 05 17:16:52 I live in japan Jul 05 17:16:54 sorry Jul 05 17:16:57 np Jul 05 17:18:45 I had entryed my soft in android market but it has not hit search Jul 05 17:18:52 when did u enter it? Jul 05 17:19:31 yesterday early morning in JST Jul 05 17:19:35 hmmm Jul 05 17:19:39 thts odd actually Jul 05 17:19:46 is it there when u navigate to it tho Jul 05 17:20:27 AndyArmstrong1: the phone orientation stuff is in the normal sound/display settings Jul 05 17:20:43 how do i access that programatically? Jul 05 17:21:53 no clue, sorry :) Jul 05 17:27:49 .. Jul 05 17:31:06 AndyArmstrong1, Does in Scotland be summer now? Jul 05 17:31:11 yeah it is Jul 05 17:31:12 very hot Jul 05 17:31:14 surprisingly Jul 05 17:33:27 hi all, does anyone know how to change a spannablestring to string ? Jul 05 17:33:40 johnnyzen, hello Jul 05 17:33:55 hi licksjp Jul 05 17:34:19 johnnyzen, I am Japanese Jul 05 17:34:31 I live in Japan Jul 05 17:34:38 ok Jul 05 17:35:06 I am interested in android application developing Jul 05 17:35:49 ok Jul 05 17:36:14 hi i am trying to make a facial recon app for android does android support like library being used in it Jul 05 17:36:45 cn i import tuff not in the sdk into it Jul 05 17:37:10 since android is compiled into that wierd apk format Jul 05 17:37:20 Radzell: what is tuff ? Jul 05 17:37:39 can i import stuff not in the sdk into it Jul 05 17:38:11 Radzell: how is your C programming Jul 05 17:38:13 ? Jul 05 17:38:35 good it was my first language Jul 05 17:39:27 I doing this in java though i have the library and stuff but i dont want to start coding and everythin goes flop Jul 05 17:39:57 Radzell: You may need to go hardcore. do you know about Android NDK ? Jul 05 17:40:18 no havent heard of it Jul 05 17:40:34 Radzell: cool, have a look at: http://developer.android.com/sdk/ndk/1.5_r1/index.html Jul 05 17:40:58 Radzell: maybe this will help ? otherwise, I havent got a clue. Jul 05 17:41:55 it may thanks Jul 05 17:42:18 Radzell: no probs. Jul 05 17:42:25 hi all, does anyone know how to change a spannablestring to string ? Jul 05 17:43:16 no worries, solved :) Jul 05 17:46:12 In android market has entryed the soft change the published?? Jul 05 17:47:08 wewt? Jul 05 17:48:33 it says i nthe docs that if I use a singleton, I should register the android.app.Application in the manifest.. sure.. but how? Jul 05 17:49:42 as a "uses-library" ? Jul 05 18:01:22 and why is it that every time I ask something (after looking for about 1 hour first), I almost imidiatly find it :) Jul 05 18:03:49 does anybody know how to disable the phone orienatation that tries to change the screen orientation Jul 05 18:06:21 AndyArmstrong1: In the manifest, I think Jul 05 18:06:23 Not sure though. Jul 05 18:09:03 hmm sounds right Jul 05 18:09:09 any idea of the specific entry needed Jul 05 18:12:41 AndyArmstrong1: No clue, but I think I saw a discussion of it either here or on the Android Google groups section. Jul 05 18:15:05 see you Jul 05 18:15:29 Anyone experienced with the NDK? Jul 05 18:15:34 anyone interested in joining a team for a developer competition Jul 05 18:15:47 Radzell, which competition? Jul 05 18:16:22 how do you send pivate pms Jul 05 18:18:13 on? Jul 05 18:19:47 i figred it out Jul 05 18:41:32 OK, this must have been asked over and over, but i how do i put a widget on the bottom of the screen? ...linearlayouts/tablelayout/tablerow and gravity does nothing... Jul 05 18:42:51 legalize weed, that will take income away from organized crime, tax businesses making legal weed and cut the income tax. police can focus on organized crime and less black people will go to jail because of ridiculous stuff like 3 strikes and youre out and get 20 years for smoking pot 3 times. Jul 05 18:46:03 or just dont do drugs Jul 05 18:48:07 including alcohol? Jul 05 18:49:14 alcohol is legal Jul 05 18:49:50 and therefore not a drug? Jul 05 18:49:57 no Jul 05 18:50:23 so if weed would have been legal, it would not be a drug? Jul 05 18:50:29 but if i smoke weed, i know i'll be fucked when they catch me. you know beforehand, if you do it, you'll be punished Jul 05 18:50:59 hence the suggestion of legalizing it? Jul 05 18:52:15 that'd be stupid. i've seen enough heavy smokers, that fucked up their live because they smoked weed, one of them my best friend from childhood Jul 05 18:52:29 now comes the "it's not addictives or harmful, OMGOMG!" Jul 05 18:52:38 but thats just stupid bullshit :) Jul 05 18:53:01 no no, of course it could be harmful, but so is alcohol Jul 05 18:53:14 yes it is Jul 05 18:53:38 so, why would you legalize it Jul 05 18:53:38 meaning it should be unlegalized Jul 05 18:53:44 you just admitted its harmful Jul 05 18:54:23 so don't got "legalize weed" but "forbid alcohol". that would be your own argument Jul 05 18:54:32 -t Jul 05 18:56:27 no, i was suggesting it as a logical step following your argument Jul 05 18:56:38 :) Jul 05 18:56:45 addictive=banned Jul 05 18:58:06 and i'm not necessarily saying either alcohol should be forbid or weed should be legalized Jul 05 18:58:48 i'm just tired of this alcohol=good/weed=bad, just because alcohol happens to be legal Jul 05 18:58:54 you made the impression, though :p Jul 05 18:58:57 and weed not Jul 05 18:59:28 ah ok, not my intention Jul 05 19:00:06 and i'm tired of people that want to legalize yet another drug because other drugs are legal Jul 05 19:00:22 :) Jul 05 19:01:45 well Jul 05 19:02:03 anyways, this might be not the right forum for this ;) Jul 05 19:02:14 i got a little ahead of myself Jul 05 19:07:05 anyone know hoe to set a margin with RelativeLayout.LayoutParams ? Jul 05 19:07:09 *how Jul 05 19:09:32 anyone know the java for android:layout_marginTop ? Jul 05 19:24:06 anyone know the java for android:layout_margins ?? Jul 05 19:28:52 anyone help with setMargins ? Jul 05 19:35:19 dang, i can't get this right, i want some widgets at the top, a listview, and a edittext at the bottom (under the listview), i just can't get it to the bottom...any pointers? Jul 05 19:42:22 is it (easily) possible to use the camera button from an app to launch the camera intent with certain parameters (e.g. specifying a target file name) Jul 05 20:03:57 jeddy3: i have that set up in my app, one sec while i look at how i did it Jul 05 20:06:32 Hi. I get an error when compiling an .aidl file which is using imports "couldn't find import for class android.remote.ObjectServerIdentity" Jul 05 20:06:43 anyone who can give me a little support? Jul 05 20:13:31 kenpark: android.remote doesn't exist in my copy of the API. where did you get this? Jul 05 20:13:47 it is just a package i added Jul 05 20:14:17 For one of my Android software projects using the native sdk, I need to be able to invalidate the icache, and execute the stack. Is this currently possible? Jul 05 20:14:40 kenpark: why are you adding packages under the android namespace? Jul 05 20:15:17 zodttd: with asm? maybe Jul 05 20:15:30 i could have named it "foo.remote" or somehow else ... it didn't matter that much to me Jul 05 20:16:22 I typically clear the icache with a syscall Jul 05 20:16:48 ok. can you paste your code somewhere? Jul 05 20:17:20 Im more concerned about the stack needing to be executable. Perhaps -fnested-functions or such could help with that. Jul 05 20:19:27 f^x, the thing is i want to run the aidl-tool from comandline and i think i don't know how to deal with imports Jul 05 20:19:52 oh. um, i don't know how to do that Jul 05 20:19:56 when i create an android-project in eclipse it generates the code to me automaticly. so i think my sources are correct Jul 05 20:20:05 ok, thank you anyhow Jul 05 20:35:47 KNY: here? Jul 05 20:35:56 yeah, what's up? Jul 05 20:36:01 may i PM? Jul 05 20:36:41 sure thing Jul 05 20:47:46 so Jul 05 20:47:48 hows it going Jul 05 20:50:15 anyone know how to invalidate just one row in a listview? I can invalidate the whole list with notifyDataSetChanged, but I just need to update one row? Jul 05 21:10:14 what the hell, R just disappeared from my project in Eclipse Jul 05 21:10:38 all references to things in R are givimg me "cannot be resolved" Jul 05 21:13:16 how do i get it back? Jul 05 21:13:32 if i run build again, it gives me the same error. it just won't auto-generate R Jul 05 21:15:42 wait, wtf, R.java is there, under gen, but for some reason, my mail java file can't see it Jul 05 21:15:45 wtf Jul 05 21:19:56 oh what the hell, it looks like I somehow am referencing the R. from another project. if I type R.id. and let it autocomplete, there are a bunch of ids there for things not in my project. how does that even happen? Jul 05 21:20:42 I'd make clean but the last time i did that, it deleted some other important auto-generated file and I had to recreate a new project and copy the code over for it to work again Jul 05 21:22:05 ok, no, wait, those things i am seeing are things that are normally in R. but none of the things form my xml are in R now Jul 05 21:26:02 oh. turns out i somehow added import android.R to the top of my source, which was importing the default R instead of my auto-generated one. No idea how that got there, I probably accidentally clicked on the wrong quick fix for something Jul 05 21:41:36 hi all, can anyone tell what the @222333 (any numbers) if I create a new private DurationPicker mDurationPicker; Jul 05 21:41:44 is it the instance number ? Jul 05 21:42:56 numbers where? Jul 05 21:44:22 for example if I create : private ClassName mName, then if I log mName it returns: ClassName@333333 - are these numbers the instance id ? Jul 05 21:47:00 any ideas ? Jul 05 21:49:30 the reason I ask, is that I have two instance of the same class, and this @number is the same on both. I wondered if they should be different. as I have a bug, and having trouble finding it Jul 05 21:50:25 how do i remove that padding around a button? Jul 05 21:51:21 what padding ? Jul 05 21:51:51 inside the button ? Jul 05 21:52:35 around a button Jul 05 21:52:45 im making a grid of buttons Jul 05 21:52:57 johnnyzen: and i wanna remove the space sround it Jul 05 21:53:00 it/them Jul 05 21:53:15 AakashPatel, set padding to 0 Jul 05 21:56:07 for example if I create : private ClassName mName, then if I log mName it returns: ClassName@333333 - are these numbers referring too ? Jul 05 21:56:24 *what are these numbers referrng to Jul 05 21:56:30 anyone ? Jul 05 21:57:04 num1: that makes my button disappear Jul 05 21:57:04 any help would be cool :) Jul 05 21:57:11 num1: that doesn't work for me, i still have a couple pixels of blank space to the left, right and bottom of the button Jul 05 21:57:31 in fact, it seems to remove the padding inside the button, so it shrinks Jul 05 21:57:59 uh it doesnt remove the passing Jul 05 21:58:01 padding* Jul 05 21:58:26 AakashPatel: yeah, i agree with you Jul 05 21:58:32 unfortunately i don;t know what the fix is Jul 05 21:58:41 f^x, AakashPatel, you're right, padding works for children, I think it'll work if you set padding to 0 on whatever layout you're putting the buttons in Jul 05 21:59:07 isnt it margins rather than padding ? Jul 05 21:59:19 if its outside the button Jul 05 21:59:20 num1: nope, that had no effect Jul 05 21:59:42 is there padding for the grids ? Jul 05 22:00:45 give me a second while I boot the emulator and droiddraw Jul 05 22:00:57 johnnyzen: setting layout margin to 0 on the button and its parent layout has no effect either Jul 05 22:01:35 droiddraw is so out of date. Jul 05 22:01:57 its almost unusable for me Jul 05 22:02:16 just gives wrong layouts half the time Jul 05 22:02:46 Aakash: what layout group is it ? Jul 05 22:02:51 GridView ? Jul 05 22:03:05 uh...it was a relativelayout Jul 05 22:03:16 * AakashPatel didnt know there was a gridview lol Jul 05 22:03:44 ah cool, i am good at relative layouts, can you paste the layout at pastebin and i'll have a look Jul 05 22:03:49 sure Jul 05 22:04:12 http://pastebin.com/m9ba0713 Jul 05 22:04:12 xml or coded layout ? Jul 05 22:04:15 xml Jul 05 22:05:45 johnnyzen: yeah, on that i wanna take out all the space between the buttons Jul 05 22:07:06 one sec, need to get my head round your style :) Jul 05 22:07:27 lol my "style" blows Jul 05 22:07:31 ..hard Jul 05 22:08:32 what sdk you using ? 1.5 ? Jul 05 22:08:59 Aakash: what sdk Jul 05 22:09:01 yea Jul 05 22:09:33 hmmm, when I render the layout, I can only see one button. Jul 05 22:09:44 uh... Jul 05 22:09:45 have you rendered the layout yourself ? Jul 05 22:09:48 yea Jul 05 22:09:53 i have it on my phone even Jul 05 22:09:59 not droiddraw i hope ? Jul 05 22:10:07 idk waht that even is lol Jul 05 22:11:34 can you send me a screenshot ? Jul 05 22:11:42 yea Jul 05 22:11:58 i dont understand how any buttons are showing at all. Jul 05 22:12:13 you have various alignment issues, as far as I can tell Jul 05 22:12:18 its a widget btw Jul 05 22:12:23 a ha Jul 05 22:12:25 sorry Jul 05 22:12:36 just noticed Jul 05 22:13:05 pm'ed you screnshot Jul 05 22:13:34 This is a harder problem than I thought, Android doesn't seem to like removing whitespace Jul 05 22:14:13 Hmmm looks like widgets handle layout diferently Jul 05 22:14:37 that xml wouldnt render in an activity Jul 05 22:15:12 yea probably wouldnt Jul 05 22:15:41 Aakash: have you tried specifing widths ? Jul 05 22:15:55 on each button ? to see what happens ? Jul 05 22:16:06 johnnyzen: uh but would that get rid of the space? Jul 05 22:16:43 sorry, what are you trying to do ? thought you wanted to get rid of the space ? Jul 05 22:17:03 yea Jul 05 22:17:11 between the bottons Jul 05 22:17:14 buttons* Jul 05 22:17:19 i want them to touch each other Jul 05 22:17:27 ok Jul 05 22:18:48 have you tried using android:horizontalSpacing and android:veticalSpacing with GridView? Jul 05 22:18:55 verticalSpacing* Jul 05 22:19:46 think buttons have spacing we cant change ? maybe for usability Jul 05 22:20:50 Aakash: spacing is needed I reckon for your app, as my fingers are big Jul 05 22:25:49 I guess if you were desperate you could use absolute layout Jul 05 22:26:22 but I suppose the transparent pixels around buttons are part of the button, specifically so there's a little spacing Jul 05 22:27:50 for example if I create : private ClassName mName, then if I log mName it returns: ClassName@333333 - what are these numbers referring too ? Jul 05 22:27:56 ANYONE: for example if I create : private ClassName mName, then if I log mName it returns: ClassName@333333 - what are these numbers referring too ? Jul 05 22:30:02 johnnyzen, I'm sorry noone knows, but asking over and over isn't going to help Jul 05 22:31:30 i am not asking over and over, i wait until I cant see my text on the screen, then I ask again. Jul 05 22:31:41 which I think is fair enough Jul 05 22:37:47 When I run make on the source, why would I not be getting a boot.img? Jul 05 22:39:26 johnnyzen: you might have better luck asking where your text will stay on the screen, like a forum Jul 05 22:40:23 I am here because its urgent. Jul 05 22:42:00 where are these numbers showing up? you said "if i log mName", what do you mean by that? Jul 05 22:44:42 it most likely is the PID of the process you're debugging, of the instance number of the class, of something similiar Jul 05 22:44:45 i am creating two instances of a class - private TestClass mTestclass1 and private TestClass mTestClass2 - If I do - > Log.w(TAG,mTestClass1); -> the logcat states - > com.example.AppOne.TestClass@44444 Jul 05 22:45:06 Just wondered what the @numbers meant Jul 05 22:45:10 num1: good call on the pids Jul 05 22:46:01 I cant understand why the numbers are the same on both mTestClass1 and mTestClass2 - thought they would be unique ? Jul 05 22:46:11 johnnyzen, is 44444 an actual number it returns? Jul 05 22:46:35 and everytime you run the program does a different number appear Jul 05 22:46:42 johnnyzen: connect to the shell of your emulator and run ps Jul 05 22:46:45 yes Jul 05 22:46:51 see if the pid of your program is the same as the number Jul 05 22:47:31 ok will do. if it is process ID - should they be unique is I am creating two instances of a class ? Jul 05 22:47:46 *if I am creating Jul 05 22:48:58 johnnyzen, as long as your classes are running in the same Dalvik VM instance, yes Jul 05 22:49:12 the actual value at the moment is @4319a3e0 - so sorry not just numbers Jul 05 22:49:23 erm, no they shouldn't be unique Jul 05 22:49:33 johnnyzen: that's a hex number Jul 05 22:49:49 specifically, a 32-bit number Jul 05 22:51:06 well the problem is , I have two buttons each relating to the two classes, but when I press the button, its picking up the values from the other class instance. i cant understand why it is doing this, if the class instance names are unique Jul 05 22:51:12 hi Jul 05 22:51:26