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Jul 13 03:21:38 <kRutOn> So if you do Uri.parse("http://bob%40lee@localhost/").getHost() it returns "lee@localhost"
Jul 13 03:21:47 <kRutOn> Sounds like a bug to me.
Jul 13 03:22:23 <kRutOn> whereas .getUserPart() returns "bob@lee"
Jul 13 03:23:45 * kRutOn submits a change
Jul 13 04:38:03 <jasongornall___> hey guys
Jul 13 04:38:12 <jasongornall___> can someone tell me if there is a list of all the android.R.layouts
Jul 13 04:38:20 <jasongornall___> so I can find the 1 I like without trial and error?
Jul 13 04:40:36 <jsharkey> sure, its in the source
Jul 13 04:41:00 <jasongornall___> right
Jul 13 04:41:06 <jasongornall___> but I was wonering if there were images
Jul 13 04:41:09 <jasongornall___> of the layouts
Jul 13 04:41:24 <jasongornall___> or examples of what they look like
Jul 13 04:41:30 <jasongornall___> instantiating them is no problem
Jul 13 04:41:48 <jsharkey> oh, there aren't thumbnails of them
Jul 13 04:42:38 <jsharkey> they really arent anything special
Jul 13 04:42:44 <jsharkey> you could make the same layouts yourself in your app
Jul 13 04:44:25 <jasongornall___> gotcha
Jul 13 04:44:34 <jasongornall___> do you know if there is a way to display a list
Jul 13 04:44:47 <jasongornall___> using this.setListAdapter
Jul 13 04:44:56 <jasongornall___> which takes in html and displays it correctly?
Jul 13 04:45:27 <jsharkey> ohwow
Jul 13 04:45:38 <jsharkey> well, html really isnt a list, its pretty free-form
Jul 13 04:46:42 <jasongornall___> right but each individual component in the list
Jul 13 04:46:47 <jasongornall___> is a html section
Jul 13 04:47:03 <jasongornall___> aka it is a list oh html elements
Jul 13 04:47:04 <jasongornall___> :p
Jul 13 04:51:52 <romainguy> we you *could* use a webview for each item
Jul 13 04:52:01 <romainguy> but we tried and performance are really not very good
Jul 13 04:52:20 <jsharkey> yikes
Jul 13 04:52:27 <romainguy__> we tried for Gmail
Jul 13 04:52:45 <jsharkey> jasongornall___: it would probably be alot faster for your users if you just pass it through an xmlpullparser and parse into in-memory structure
Jul 13 04:53:03 <jasongornall___> that is exactly what I am doing
Jul 13 04:53:11 <jasongornall___> I am using a xml pull parser to parse in a html
Jul 13 04:53:17 <jasongornall___> it is a xml table of html files
Jul 13 04:53:18 <jasongornall___> lol
Jul 13 04:53:37 <jasongornall___> however  found my answer
Jul 13 04:53:44 <jasongornall___> http://developer.android.com/reference/android/text/Html.html#fromHtml(java.lang.String)
Jul 13 04:53:49 <jasongornall___> encase u r curious :p
Jul 13 04:53:59 <KNY> jasongornall___, that's demonstrated in ApiDemos, by the way :)
Jul 13 04:54:11 <jasongornall___> really? which 1
Jul 13 04:54:12 <KNY> Linkify.java, I believe
Jul 13 04:55:28 <jasongornall___> woah so which s beter
Jul 13 04:55:30 <jasongornall___> fromhtml
Jul 13 04:55:33 <jasongornall___> or linkify
Jul 13 04:57:10 <jsharkey> well, for linkify you'd have to stip all your tags out
Jul 13 05:04:00 * kRutOn gets bitten by forgetting to include --replace
Jul 13 05:04:20 <romainguy> kRutOn: hehe
Jul 13 05:04:26 <romainguy> fucking dependencies :p
Jul 13 05:05:44 <kRutOn> It probably caused some spam as well :-)
Jul 13 05:05:57 <romainguy> you made my phone beep a few times
Jul 13 05:06:02 <romainguy> I'm trying to watch a movie here!
Jul 13 05:06:46 <kRutOn> Next time I'll devise a plan to upload, replace, and abandon is such a manner as to play the Axl Foley song on your phone.
Jul 13 05:09:32 <jasongornall___> blargh fromHtml just seems to remove the tags
Jul 13 05:09:56 <jsharkey> jasongornall___: yea fromHtml pretty much only looks at simple <b> <i> etc
Jul 13 05:10:08 <jasongornall___> no href?
Jul 13 05:10:32 <jsharkey> well, no, because there isnt a way of representing them in a CharSequence as styled spans
Jul 13 05:11:38 <jasongornall___> how would I be able to put a html item on the screen then
Jul 13 05:11:45 <jsharkey> WebView?
Jul 13 05:11:46 <jasongornall___> what "type" would my list have to be
Jul 13 05:11:50 <jasongornall___> woah
Jul 13 05:11:53 <jasongornall___> mind reader
Jul 13 05:11:54 <jasongornall___> lol
Jul 13 05:12:04 <jsharkey> its super-flexible, but can be super-expensive
Jul 13 05:12:49 <jsharkey> its always faster if you can parse out stuff in code tho
Jul 13 05:13:22 <kRutOn> I thought parsing it in the cloud is the fastest and buzziest
Jul 13 05:13:34 <jsharkey> well, yes, the cloud is always most-optimal  :)
Jul 13 05:15:00 <kRutOn> Hmm, apparently iWnnIME has some kind of behavior problem.
Jul 13 05:15:44 <kRutOn> ref http://twitter.com/neo486
Jul 13 05:17:43 <romainguy> like I said above, you can use WebView but if you do so in a list, don't expect good performance
Jul 13 05:32:16 <kRutOn> HTTP POSTs don't appear to have Content-Length attached to them here...
Jul 13 05:32:43 <kRutOn> I wonder if luni is doing something naughty..
Jul 13 05:32:47 <jasongornall___> interesting
Jul 13 05:33:05 <jasongornall___> apparently webviews are not just a simple pass into strings
Jul 13 05:33:13 <jasongornall___> is it possible to have a list of webviews?
Jul 13 05:39:08 <romainguy> jasonchen: I already told you twice, yes
Jul 13 05:39:13 <romainguy> but performance will suck
Jul 13 05:43:59 <duane> is there a way to specify that an activity that is already running should be "brought to the front" rather than another instance of that activity be created when you start it via the launcher icon?
Jul 13 06:14:50 <duane> don't worry people, looks like the "android:launchMode="singleTask"" attribute for the activity in the manifest was what I was looking for
Jul 13 08:18:27 <Keychar> can anyone tell me how I get a CursorTreeAdapter to automatically requery the groups, and not only the children?
Jul 13 08:26:14 <jsharkey> Keychar: when you say automatically, who would trigger the requery?  if its a contentprovider, it should automatically invalidate and requery
Jul 13 08:26:50 <Keychar> jsharkey: it is a content-provider for the group cursor
Jul 13 08:27:12 <Keychar> I am even able to catch it in another class
Jul 13 08:27:35 <jsharkey> right, so if the provider performs notifyChange(), it should requery
Jul 13 08:28:23 <Keychar> it deos, i su eregisterContentObserver on the same URI as the cursor in the tree and it executes onChange
Jul 13 08:29:05 <Keychar> *deos, i do regi*
Jul 13 08:29:19 <Keychar> does* :P
Jul 13 08:29:27 <jsharkey> CursorTreeAdapter calls registerContentObserver internally, so it should requery on its own
Jul 13 08:30:13 <Keychar> yeah, my registerContentObserver is in the current thread for other reasons, and is seperated from my list
Jul 13 08:31:14 <jsharkey> did you override CursorTreeAdapter methods that handle the groups cursor?
Jul 13 08:31:37 <jsharkey> (you shouldnt have)
Jul 13 08:31:50 <Keychar> nope
Jul 13 08:32:22 <jsharkey> okay cool, then it should requery on its own
Jul 13 08:32:39 <Keychar> ok, thanks anyway :(
Jul 13 08:32:52 <jsharkey> were you trying to make it /not/ requery?
Jul 13 08:34:49 <Keychar> no
Jul 13 08:40:43 <Keychar> the wierd part is that notifyDataSetChanged() isn't working either
Jul 13 08:52:20 <terros> I have an activity and in the oncreate method i download an xml feed and display a list of items. If i want to reload that view, how can i do that?
Jul 13 09:28:40 <martin__> what is the best way to have my service trigger a change in my UI from my activity? I would like to set a CheckBoxPreference to unchecked from the service.
Jul 13 09:29:08 <martin__> (my service isn't bound, i'm just using startService() and stopService()
Jul 13 09:36:32 <neoakira|work> iop
Jul 13 09:36:44 <the_alien> iop?
Jul 13 09:36:49 <neoakira|work> hello
Jul 13 09:37:23 <neoakira|work> do you know how to prevent orientation change by the code ? please
Jul 13 09:38:18 <neoakira|work> from code
Jul 13 09:38:27 <neoakira|work> not from the manifest.xml
Jul 13 10:43:06 <calebr> Hi, I'm interested if there were any attempts to make something like http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1GDl2r0RxpE ? Or does anybody know any sites about outlook of android apps?
Jul 13 10:56:53 <Guest481> what is the adc2 challenge deadline?
Jul 13 11:06:56 <AndyArmstrong> hiya! , can anybody point me to a guide to making a widget, i cannot follow the api docs confuse me
Jul 13 11:12:32 <AndyArmstrong> can somebvody help me with a very simple widget issue
Jul 13 11:24:53 <AndyArmstrong> helo can anyone help me with a simple widget problem
Jul 13 11:26:25 <didou> Hi friends
Jul 13 11:26:57 <didou> what would be the best way to handle a login/password storage in my app ?
Jul 13 11:27:02 <didou> The preference system ?
Jul 13 11:28:08 <didou> (I'm on a 2G key near the beach, googling is a hell)
Jul 13 11:30:28 <AndyArmstrong> database probs
Jul 13 11:30:33 <AndyArmstrong> hash the pass
Jul 13 11:31:14 <didou> thanks
Jul 13 11:31:52 <AndyArmstrong> can anyone help me with my widget problem plz
Jul 13 11:34:06 <AndyArmstrong> Ive tried writting a very simple widget, however when i run the emulator - the widget doesnt appear and its not in the list to install......
Jul 13 11:40:12 <louis> Just a question about performance, is it better to get lot of "LinearLayout" or only one RelativeLayout ?
Jul 13 11:42:44 <didou> louis: you may hit the max depth boundary as I did with linearlayout
Jul 13 11:42:50 <didou> relativelayout saved my project :)
Jul 13 11:43:02 <didou> (If I remember, the limit is 9 or 10 levels)
Jul 13 11:43:26 <louis> yep but while under this limit , wich solution is the most efficient
Jul 13 11:43:27 <didou> beyond that, your app will crash randomly with a stack overflow
Jul 13 11:43:46 <didou> that I don't know. relative layout seems pretty fast IMHO
Jul 13 11:44:33 <louis> ok i'll make some performance test then
Jul 13 11:44:43 <didou> anyone with an exemple of upload file dialog ?
Jul 13 11:44:54 <didou> I need to enable the user to upload a video from its mobile to the server
Jul 13 12:03:14 <AndyArmstrong> hey guys
Jul 13 12:03:22 <AndyArmstrong> can anybody help me setup a new widget project
Jul 13 12:03:27 <AndyArmstrong> i get nothing when mine runs
Jul 13 12:11:41 <AndyArmstrong> hello
Jul 13 12:11:43 <AndyArmstrong> anyone there
Jul 13 12:19:54 <AndyArmstrong> does anybody know when you launch an emulator for ur app how to get it to load the new widget straight away
Jul 13 12:20:02 <AndyArmstrong> cos its so slow to have to add it again and again and again and again
Jul 13 13:01:20 <Matt> Hey all does anyone have any tips of where to start to make a view which only covers half of the screen? i.e. raises from the bottom of the screen up to display a number of buttons?
Jul 13 13:03:47 <Matt> What I really want is something like Android Menu but where I can customise the buttons etc
Jul 13 13:05:58 <zhobbs_> Matt: there is a SlidingDrawer class
Jul 13 13:06:22 <Matt> ooo cheers zhobbs I knew someone would point me in the right direction
Jul 13 13:09:25 <Matt> hopefully I can hide the handle so it is just a sliding drawer
Jul 13 13:17:21 <zhobbs_> Matt: how is the user going to hide/reveal it?
Jul 13 13:17:58 <Matt> Im thinking sliding draw might be wrong, basically I wanted a button click to set of the slide to reveal the buttons
Jul 13 13:18:29 <Matt> so it is near anough a menu except I want to define my own layout within the menu
Jul 13 13:25:06 <Matt> Do you reckon just adding a new Content View will be suitable?
Jul 13 13:45:38 <AndyArmstrong> guys
Jul 13 13:45:43 <AndyArmstrong> i want 4 buttons in a relative layout
Jul 13 13:45:47 <AndyArmstrong> that are 2x2
Jul 13 13:45:49 <AndyArmstrong> how do i do it
Jul 13 13:45:55 <AndyArmstrong> cos currently mine looks like shit
Jul 13 13:46:18 <AndyArmstrong> http://pastebin.com/m39c2ea49
Jul 13 13:50:00 <vol_> you need to put them inside of linear layouts
Jul 13 13:50:11 <vol_> have a horizontal layout for each row?
Jul 13 13:50:26 <vol_> actually, no, that's probably not the right way
Jul 13 13:51:11 <vol_> you might want a tablelayout
Jul 13 13:51:56 <vol_> actually, looking at your paste
Jul 13 13:52:13 <vol_> you have four widgets. 1 is to the left of 2. 2 is to the right of 4. 3 is to the right of 4.
Jul 13 13:52:20 <wizzler> in eclipse, how do i get system.out.println to work? it doesnt print in the android console, do i have to create some java view console?
Jul 13 13:52:21 <vol_> so, that's not going to stack up as 2x2
Jul 13 13:52:30 <vol_> wizzler: use the Log class instead
Jul 13 13:52:36 <wizzler> kk
Jul 13 13:52:43 <vol_> http://developer.android.com/reference/android/util/Log.html
Jul 13 13:53:01 <vol_> also, strongly advise using the debugger to step through things instead of doing println debugging
Jul 13 13:53:07 <vol_> if you don't know how to use the debugger, now's the time to learn.
Jul 13 13:53:39 <wizzler> ^^
Jul 13 13:54:25 <wizzler> nah i just want to see some results on the console.
Jul 13 13:55:01 <wizzler> yea the debugging might not be might bggest strength but it seems from the guides that it might be a good idea to use it.
Jul 13 13:55:34 <wizzler> http://developer.android.com/reference/android/util/Log.html
Jul 13 13:55:38 <wizzler> ops
Jul 13 14:01:40 <wizzler> vol_: Log.i("class", "text"); should be thrown to the console right?
Jul 13 14:01:42 <AndyArmstrong> vol_ - right so waht hsould the widgets be lined up as
Jul 13 14:05:47 <AndyArmstrong> vol?
Jul 13 14:05:51 <AndyArmstrong> in order to get 2x2
Jul 13 14:19:37 <vol_> AndyArmstrong: you want to position widgets relative to each other
Jul 13 14:19:45 <vol_> have the bottom left one say that it is below the top left one
Jul 13 14:19:52 <vol_> have the top right one say it is to the right of the top left one
Jul 13 14:20:07 <vol_> have th bottom right one say it is to the right of the bottom left and below the top right one
Jul 13 14:20:13 <vol_> wizzler: yes, something like that
Jul 13 14:20:21 <vol_> it will show up in the logcat output in ddms
Jul 13 14:20:40 <AndyArmstrong> ok i have this now vol - http://pastebin.com/m6367ffc8
Jul 13 14:20:49 <AndyArmstrong> however the widget only shows two of the imagebuttons
Jul 13 14:22:24 <AndyArmstrong> like this :
Jul 13 14:24:05 <AndyArmstrong> http://tinypic.com/r/rjnmgg/3
Jul 13 14:24:08 <AndyArmstrong> take a look
Jul 13 14:38:31 <Matt> I have an activity which launches a second activity to display a list of options, does anyone have any idea how I could update the first activity when the second activity has a button press?
Jul 13 14:39:06 <Matt> Even if its just a way of listening for when the activity closes
Jul 13 14:45:37 <AndyArmstrong> just make a method static
Jul 13 14:45:41 <AndyArmstrong> and call class.Method(lalala)
Jul 13 14:46:34 <AndyArmstrong> vol_!?!?
Jul 13 14:46:39 <AndyArmstrong> ^^
Jul 13 14:52:38 <AndyArmstrong> :@(
Jul 13 14:55:01 <vol_> AndyArmstrong: wrong
Jul 13 14:55:09 <vol_> activities don't interact with each other that way
Jul 13 14:55:30 <vol_> Matt: you should be able to register when the child activity closes
Jul 13 14:55:35 <vol_> as well as get some feedback
Jul 13 14:56:12 <vol_> http://developer.android.com/reference/android/app/Activity.html#StartingActivities
Jul 13 14:56:32 <vol_> see startActivityForResult and onActivityResult
Jul 13 14:56:56 <vol_> if you want real IPC, you would use AIDL, but bear in mind that only one activity is active at a time.
Jul 13 14:57:05 <Matt> cheers vol, I started looking into extending Dialog, so The activity starts the dialog with a list of buttons essentially to wait for a click on one of them, is that a better way of approaching the problem?
Jul 13 14:58:42 <AndyArmstrong> vol can u hel me plz = above i put a image showing u what was happening
Jul 13 14:58:50 <AndyArmstrong> i only see 2 of my imagebuttons
Jul 13 14:58:54 <AndyArmstrong> the other 2 dont appear
Jul 13 14:59:42 <vol_> AndyArmstrong: using the relative layout?
Jul 13 15:00:07 <jasongornall_> is it possible to do infinite pagination on the android like the iphone?
Jul 13 15:00:09 <AndyArmstrong> yea
Jul 13 15:00:15 <kRutOn> AndyArmstrong: Did you read the relative layout doc? It says it lays out the widgets with one pass, so you have to organize the order of things with that in mind.
Jul 13 15:00:30 <vol_> jasongornall_: sorry, what do you mean by infinite pagination?
Jul 13 15:00:45 <jasongornall_> well I have a xml feed I am pulling in
Jul 13 15:00:47 <vol_> Matt: if you're just having an activity that returns when the user clicks a button,  just use an activity
Jul 13 15:00:52 <AndyArmstrong> yeah i all do it relative to the top left button - as seen here http://pastebin.com/m367e2d92
Jul 13 15:00:55 <jasongornall_> but it has a pagenumber associated with it
Jul 13 15:00:58 <vol_> that's really exactly what you want for that
Jul 13 15:01:04 <jasongornall_> I want to simply infinitely scroll
Jul 13 15:01:11 <jasongornall_> each page
Jul 13 15:01:17 <jasongornall_> without having it be buggy
Jul 13 15:01:18 <vol_> hmm.
Jul 13 15:01:24 <vol_> Good question.
Jul 13 15:01:34 <jasongornall_> iphone can do it
Jul 13 15:01:36 <vol_> I don't know if the capability exists but you might be able to just write something yourself
Jul 13 15:01:46 <vol_> that's kind of an odd scenario
Jul 13 15:01:56 <Matt> cheers for the advice vol
Jul 13 15:02:03 <vol_> I'm pretty sure that if you have a list or something, you can always just add more elements to it
Jul 13 15:02:11 <vol_> gmail does this
Jul 13 15:02:19 <vol_> I would expect you can probably do it for other things as well
Jul 13 15:02:25 <kRutOn> AndyArmstrong: widget35 and widget37 are in the same place since they're not positioned relative to eachother
Jul 13 15:02:32 <kRutOn> AndyArmstrong: Is this for a desktop widget?
Jul 13 15:02:42 <AndyArmstrong> by that u mean on the phones desktop..?
Jul 13 15:02:45 <AndyArmstrong> if so, yes
Jul 13 15:03:19 <kRutOn> AndyArmstrong: Hm, I didn't think you could have buttons on a widget.
Jul 13 15:03:20 <jasongornall_> vol if I do it that way
Jul 13 15:03:24 <jasongornall_> it becomes a memory issue
Jul 13 15:03:40 <AndyArmstrong> you can !
Jul 13 15:03:47 <AndyArmstrong> so what am i supposed to add
Jul 13 15:03:51 <AndyArmstrong> 35 on top of 37?
Jul 13 15:03:55 <the_alien> hi all. need some help with layouting. made a messages widget and used some small buttons to switch forward and backward. but they are so small it is hard to hit it with the finger. is there a way to increase the "hit area" without resizing the buttons? (buttons being ImageViews)
Jul 13 15:04:00 <kRutOn> jasongornall_: The ListView class only reads the data for what's on the screen..
Jul 13 15:04:08 <vol_> jasongornall_: remove elements from the front then, maybe?
Jul 13 15:04:18 <vol_> sorry, I've never really considered this case, honest
Jul 13 15:05:25 <AndyArmstrong> kRutOn i dont see what i need to add to fix this problem...
Jul 13 15:05:40 <AndyArmstrong> added this to widget35
Jul 13 15:05:41 <AndyArmstrong> android:layout_above="@+id/widget37"
Jul 13 15:07:39 <kRutOn> AndyArmstrong: In widget37, you're referencing widget35 which hasn't been read yet. Yes, you need to switch it so widget35 is positioned vertically based on widget37's position
Jul 13 15:07:55 <vol_> AndyArmstrong: http://pastebin.com/mafba124
Jul 13 15:12:03 <bnovc> I have a Builder inside of a ListPreference that I'm calling setMultiChoiceItems on.... is there a way to dynamically check items inside of it after its created?
Jul 13 15:12:41 <AndyArmstrong> hmm
Jul 13 15:12:42 <AndyArmstrong> so basically
Jul 13 15:12:50 <AndyArmstrong> if i start with everything relaitve ot button 1
Jul 13 15:12:55 <AndyArmstrong> it must be the very fist thing thats read
Jul 13 15:13:17 <AndyArmstrong> and likewise if i mention 3 before 4, then 3 mustve occuired in the code before 4
Jul 13 15:13:28 <AndyArmstrong> otherwise it will be, "i hevent heard of that yet , so fuk you"
Jul 13 15:25:26 <kRutOn> Yeah, that's why it says it scans linearly through the layout once.
Jul 13 15:26:03 <kRutOn> Otherwise you'd have an O(n!) problem where people are nesting things infinitely deep and wondering why this extra layer of indirection doesn't work.
Jul 13 15:30:35 <romainguy_> kRutOn: Donut changes the way RelativeLayout is implemented
Jul 13 15:30:45 <romainguy_> it does not require dependencies to be declared in the correct order anymore
Jul 13 15:30:56 <kRutOn> just doesn't resolve them until the end?
Jul 13 15:31:13 <romainguy_> it builds two graphs of its children
Jul 13 15:31:22 <romainguy_> one based on the horizontal rules
Jul 13 15:31:26 <romainguy_> one based on the vertical rules
Jul 13 15:31:30 <kRutOn> romainguy_: Speaking of donut, should be be submitting changes to pull in master branch fixes to donut?
Jul 13 15:31:53 <romainguy_> both get sorted to resolve the dependencies in the right order
Jul 13 15:32:07 <romainguy_> then there's a couple more tricks (which can result in up to 5 passes in the measure() phase)
Jul 13 15:32:23 <romainguy_> kRutOn: submissions go in master
Jul 13 15:33:03 <kRutOn> hm, I'll have to read the new code in donut
Jul 13 15:33:25 <romainguy_> we haven't dropped that code yet
Jul 13 15:33:38 <romainguy_> but anyway, that new implementation makes RelativeLayout easier to use
Jul 13 15:33:42 <kRutOn> ... at some later point in time
Jul 13 15:33:47 <romainguy_> *and* it fixes a bunch of really obscure bugs
Jul 13 15:35:25 <kRutOn> Sounds good. For the old layouts will it still be one pass because the graph will be already sorted?
Jul 13 15:35:51 <romainguy_> it will be 2 passes
Jul 13 15:36:00 <romainguy_> but that's not O(2*n)
Jul 13 15:36:16 <romainguy_> because the first pass deals only with children that have horizontal rules
Jul 13 15:36:23 <romainguy_> and the second pass with children that have vertical rules
Jul 13 15:36:27 <maannj> hi guys, noob question couldn't find an answer for in google.. I'm trying to use INTERNET permission for my application, I get  an exception when I try to run the application :
Jul 13 15:36:57 <maannj> java.lang.SecurityException: Permission Denial: starting Intent { flags=0x10000000 comp={com.lat/com.lat.Splash} } from null (pid=-1, uid=-1) requires android.permission.INTERNET
Jul 13 15:37:23 <maannj> I'm getting both on my g1 and emulator
Jul 13 15:37:25 <kRutOn> throw new GraphCycleException()
Jul 13 15:38:17 <kRutOn> maannj: I think you need to use <uses-permission ... /> not <permission etc
Jul 13 15:38:19 <vol_> maannj: you're putting your permissions in the wrong spot
Jul 13 15:38:29 <romainguy_> kRutOn: yes, there's that :p
Jul 13 15:38:30 <vol_> you're setting a permission required to use the app, not a permission the app wants to request
Jul 13 15:38:37 <maannj> vol_; oh
Jul 13 15:38:40 <maannj> kRutOn: oh :)
Jul 13 15:38:46 <kRutOn> <uses-permission android:name="android.permission.VIBRATE" />
Jul 13 15:38:51 <kRutOn> er, INTERNET
Jul 13 15:38:52 <vol_> maannj: click the "permissions" tab at the bottom of the android manifest editor
Jul 13 15:38:58 <maannj> I just noticed it, I tried to do it using Manifest editor in Eclipse
Jul 13 15:39:07 <maannj> ok thanks
Jul 13 15:39:09 <kRutOn> The manifest editor is slightly confusing in that area.
Jul 13 15:39:18 <vol_> you probably just hit permission in the application tab
Jul 13 15:39:37 <maannj> just out of curiosity , what is this one for in application tab
Jul 13 15:40:25 <AndyArmstrong> romainguy_ thats great news about donut
Jul 13 15:40:33 <AndyArmstrong> when is donut arriving
Jul 13 15:41:05 <kRutOn> romainguy_: Is there someone that is tirelessly looking through all the issues submitted for bug fixes to merge to donut, eclair, flan, etc branches?
Jul 13 15:41:14 <AndyArmstrong> romainguy_ are u the same person i saw a video of demonstrating part of donut i think it was
Jul 13 15:41:24 <maannj> AndyArmstrong: I asked in dunkin donut, they're not sure yet
Jul 13 15:42:20 <AndyArmstrong> lmao maannj
Jul 13 15:42:21 <AndyArmstrong> hahah
Jul 13 15:42:29 <maannj> lol :)
Jul 13 15:43:53 <romainguy_> kRutOn: we look at all submissions but not all of them are merged back to donut/whatever
Jul 13 15:44:04 <romainguy_> although jbq has been working on merging the external master with our internal master recently
Jul 13 15:44:48 <romainguy_> AndyArmstrong: it could be if you are referring to Google I/O
Jul 13 15:44:59 <AndyArmstrong> ahh wow
Jul 13 15:45:06 <AndyArmstrong> nice to put irc names to faces actually
Jul 13 15:45:10 <AndyArmstrong> maybe the first time ive ever done that
Jul 13 15:45:20 <AndyArmstrong> is it possible to link a sms intent to a desktop widget?
Jul 13 15:45:36 <vol_> bleh. Anyone know know if there's a way to pass arbitrary values to ant targets?
Jul 13 15:45:46 <vol_> I don't want to make three almost but not quite identical ant targets
Jul 13 15:45:50 <jsharkey> AndyArmstrong: /send/ an sms?
Jul 13 15:45:56 <vol_> actually, more than that, because I have several steps
Jul 13 15:46:00 <kRutOn> Yeah, I figured with his recent announcement he's in charge of the open source release process
Jul 13 15:46:16 <vol_> jsharkey: I think he wants an sms broadcast to make his desktop app do.... I don't know what.
Jul 13 15:46:19 <vol_> beep.
Jul 13 15:46:41 <AndyArmstrong> jsharkey more like intercept an incoming text
Jul 13 15:46:59 <AndyArmstrong> so i get hold of the text of a new sms
Jul 13 15:47:28 <jsharkey> AndyArmstrong: i think others have done it before, and there should be tutorials out there
Jul 13 15:47:36 <jsharkey> its probably an ordered broadcast
Jul 13 15:48:04 <kRutOn> vol_: Just set them before they get into that target..
Jul 13 15:48:19 <vol_> kRutOn: eh, I suppose that works.
Jul 13 15:49:41 <AndyArmstrong> yeah i saw a tutorial from anddev.org
Jul 13 15:49:50 <AndyArmstrong> i aws just ensuring there isnt a restriction on widgets
Jul 13 15:50:03 <AndyArmstrong> they can do everything all other apps can do , just with a limited selection of widgets
Jul 13 15:50:04 <AndyArmstrong> it seems
Jul 13 15:50:08 <kRutOn> vol_: Here's a good example: http://emma.sourceforge.net/userguide/ar01s03s03.html
Jul 13 15:50:19 <AndyArmstrong> i think the desktop widget and views widgets need different names
Jul 13 15:50:21 <AndyArmstrong> its confusing
Jul 13 15:50:24 <vol_> kRutOn: thank you
Jul 13 15:50:36 <jsharkey> AndyArmstrong: thats why they're called AppWidgets  ;)
Jul 13 15:50:59 <AndyArmstrong> what so desktop widgets , like the clock are called appwidgets
Jul 13 15:51:41 <AndyArmstrong> that needs changing - its hard to ask problems when people could interpret them in a number of ways cos of the same word being used left right and center
Jul 13 15:54:30 <AndyArmstrong> how do i attach a onclicklistener to an image button in an appwidget
Jul 13 15:54:37 <AndyArmstrong> cos currently, i cannot do findViewById
Jul 13 15:54:46 <AndyArmstrong> so i cannot gain access to the button programtically
Jul 13 15:58:59 <AndyArmstrong> so can anybody advise me how i assign an onclicklistener to my imagebutton within a app widget application - because id ont seem to be able to do it
Jul 13 15:59:13 <the_alien> need some help with the SharedPreferences.
Jul 13 15:59:38 <the_alien> i have an AppWidget and want to save and read a integer value to and from the file
Jul 13 16:00:10 <the_alien> so i try to load the settings in the onReceive() method and store the settings at it's end
Jul 13 16:00:23 <the_alien> but it wont load the correct value no matter what i do
Jul 13 16:00:27 <the_alien> any suggestions?
Jul 13 16:01:51 <AndyArmstrong>  so can anybody advise me how i assign an onclicklistener to my imagebutton within a app widget application - because id ont seem to be able to do it
Jul 13 16:02:20 <Matt> the_alien Im probably going to look into the SharedPreferences soon so might be of some help later on or 2moro perhaps
Jul 13 16:02:44 <the_alien> AndyArmstrong: you cant assign an onclicklistener
Jul 13 16:02:52 <the_alien> you have to use a PendingIntent
Jul 13 16:03:03 <AndyArmstrong> oh right
Jul 13 16:03:06 <AndyArmstrong> how do i do that
Jul 13 16:03:11 <AndyArmstrong> can u link me to an example with a button?
Jul 13 16:03:42 <the_alien> AndyArmstrong: http://developer.android.com/guide/topics/appwidgets/index.html#AppWidgetProvider
Jul 13 16:04:11 <the_alien> Matt: "on or 2moro perhaps" what does that mean?
Jul 13 16:04:54 <Matt> I might be able to help you later on or tommorrow, if all goes well
Jul 13 16:05:13 <the_alien> ah nice
Jul 13 16:05:18 <martin__> the_alien, are you sure you set the settings correctly? make sure you .commit() on the editor
Jul 13 16:05:49 <martin__> else your sharedpreferences object will lose its changes once it goes out of scope
Jul 13 16:05:58 <the_alien> martin__: i can pastebin it and you could tell me?
Jul 13 16:06:11 <martin__> perhaps, I haven't used an AppWidget before
Jul 13 16:07:26 <the_alien> martin__: http://pastebin.com/m59feeb72
Jul 13 16:09:12 <jasongornall_> what is the best way to load a image from the web?
Jul 13 16:12:39 <the_alien> martin__: no idea?
Jul 13 16:13:27 <martin__> I assume position changes between those two pieces of code, I dont see a problem
Jul 13 16:14:06 <the_alien> yeah, position changes there
Jul 13 16:15:28 <the_alien> i think i'll use a properties object then. where should i store the file?
Jul 13 16:19:19 <the_alien> nice, adb tells me the xml file is present, but if i want to access it, it says it doesn't exist
Jul 13 16:24:48 <maannj> how do I invoke function in UI thread ? something like invokeLater in Swing ?
Jul 13 16:25:55 <maannj> nvm  I got it,   runOnUiThread(Runnable), right ?
Jul 13 16:26:23 <zhobbs_> maannj: that, or using a Handler
Jul 13 16:26:40 <zhobbs_> maannj: or let AsycTask do the work for you
Jul 13 16:27:13 <maannj> zhobbs_: is there any difference beside complication ?
Jul 13 16:27:41 <zhobbs_> maannj: they all use a Handler at some point
Jul 13 16:29:13 <maannj> zhobbs_: aha ok I guess I'll just use runOnUiThread then
Jul 13 16:36:24 <jasongornall_> do any of you guys know how this.setListAdapter() works
Jul 13 16:36:30 <jasongornall_> can I throw a list of anything in there?
Jul 13 16:41:59 <AndyArmstrong> with this exmaple -  http://developer.android.com/guide/topics/appwidgets/index.html#AppWidgetProvider exampleactivity class - what method do i have in there so it reacts on button click
Jul 13 16:42:00 <maannj> you can do everything, you just have to strongly believe in yourself.
Jul 13 16:42:14 <AndyArmstrong> should it implement on click listener?
Jul 13 16:43:31 <AndyArmstrong> ??
Jul 13 16:48:36 <OEP> AndyArmstrong: I think OnClickListener is what you want
Jul 13 16:48:56 <OEP> er perhaps OnTouchListener*
Jul 13 16:48:59 <AndyArmstrong> so i do
Jul 13 16:49:07 <AndyArmstrong> yeah but this for for an activity
Jul 13 16:49:11 <AndyArmstrong> so do i make a class
Jul 13 16:49:14 <AndyArmstrong> myclass {
Jul 13 16:49:20 <AndyArmstrong> implements onClickListener
Jul 13 16:49:28 <AndyArmstrong> and that will work?!
Jul 13 16:49:33 <OEP> you could have the activity implement it
Jul 13 16:52:02 <Matt> Does anyone know if a Thread has interrupt() called in it, is it the same and just killing it? because from the documentation I couldn't see a good way to kill it
Jul 13 16:54:19 <the_alien> Matt: don't know how android handles it, but in java you shouldn't call interrupt() because it can cause deadlocks
Jul 13 16:54:29 <the_alien> if you're synchronizing anything
Jul 13 16:54:49 <the_alien> you should write your own method to tell your thread to stop working, and die
Jul 13 16:54:53 <Matt> its just a background thread, and only time I forsee problems is if the IO over network fails
Jul 13 16:55:29 <AndyArmstrong> the_alien i am following the link u sent me
Jul 13 16:55:39 <AndyArmstrong> this is my ExampleActivity class - but its not working when i click my button http://pastebin.com/me610458
Jul 13 16:55:46 <AndyArmstrong> the activity starts - but the toast dialog doesnt appear
Jul 13 16:58:46 <the_alien> yeah, why should the onClick be called?
Jul 13 17:08:18 <AndyArmstrong> i dont know
Jul 13 17:08:23 <AndyArmstrong> what should the helper class have in it
Jul 13 17:08:32 <AndyArmstrong> i want the code in helper to be executed on click
Jul 13 17:08:35 <AndyArmstrong> so what should it look like
Jul 13 17:09:19 <herriojr> AndyArmstrong: you aren't setting the click listener to any object there
Jul 13 17:10:23 <herriojr> AndyArmstrong: you need to do something like "myView.setOnClickListener(Helper.this);"
Jul 13 17:10:32 <herriojr> in your onCreate() method
Jul 13 17:11:14 <vol_> Argh
Jul 13 17:11:22 <vol_> I'm having some trouble escaping quotes in ant
Jul 13 17:11:36 <herriojr> \" doesn't work?
Jul 13 17:11:45 <vol_> no, sir! Apparently I need to use &quot;
Jul 13 17:11:54 <herriojr> nuts
Jul 13 17:11:58 <vol_> except that then sed bitches about the wrong output
Jul 13 17:12:00 <vol_> ugh
Jul 13 17:12:11 <herriojr> heh
Jul 13 17:12:47 <vol_> oh, alright
Jul 13 17:12:56 <vol_> I guess I don't need '' around the line if I'm not at the shell
Jul 13 17:12:59 <vol_> that solves that
Jul 13 17:13:36 * the_alien cries
Jul 13 17:13:58 <the_alien> why the fuck are my settings i store in a file not loaded when the process starts
Jul 13 17:14:29 <vol_> the_alien: that is what debuggers are for :>
Jul 13 17:14:31 <KNY> the_alien, because you're not telling it to load
Jul 13 17:14:44 <Penguin__> What class can I use to download images to use as resources in application? I'm trying to build sample gallery layout out of images provided on a web site
Jul 13 17:14:58 <herriojr> the_alien: yeah, you need to load in your onCreate or wherever makes sense yourself
Jul 13 17:15:20 <KNY> Penguin__, URL or HttpClient
Jul 13 17:15:26 <Penguin__> thanks
Jul 13 17:15:47 <the_alien> KNY: i need the settings in the onReceive(), first i tried it with SharedPreferences > didn't work. now trying it with a PropertiesFile. it is stored and loaded. but when the process restarts everything is gone
Jul 13 17:15:51 <the_alien> i dont get it
Jul 13 17:16:17 <the_alien> vol_: the process wont be killed by the vm in the emu and i can't stepdebug on the adp1
Jul 13 17:17:03 <herriojr> the_alien: when you used sharedpreferences, did you make sure to do editor.commit()?
Jul 13 17:17:21 <the_alien> herriojr: yeah i did
Jul 13 17:17:41 <the_alien> herriojr: http://pastebin.com/m59feeb72
Jul 13 17:17:43 <herriojr> I used SharedPreferences a lot, and it works fine for me
Jul 13 17:18:31 <the_alien> herriojr: yeah, everything is fine, until my AppWidget Process gets killed. if it restarts everything seems to be gone
Jul 13 17:19:12 <herriojr> are you testing on the emulator?
Jul 13 17:19:43 <the_alien> herriojr: both, emulator and g1
Jul 13 17:20:06 <herriojr> did you try logging into the shell after it is killed and check to see if the preferences file is still there?
Jul 13 17:20:29 <the_alien> herriojr: one sec, i'll try
Jul 13 17:24:13 <the_alien> herriojr: the file is there and the correct value is in it
Jul 13 17:27:12 <herriojr> and when you run it again, it doesn't use the preferences file?
Jul 13 17:27:25 <the_alien> the value gets reseted
Jul 13 17:29:48 <herriojr> I'm mulling it over at the moment, just a sec
Jul 13 17:30:08 <the_alien> the xml file says the position is 4, the process restarts, the position is set to 0 and stored
Jul 13 17:32:12 <herriojr> so in your code, you have 2 different position variables: MessagesProvider.position and position
Jul 13 17:32:27 <herriojr> I don't see where position is being set
Jul 13 17:36:07 <the_alien> herriojr: position is a static member variable
Jul 13 17:36:07 <fangus> any1 have a problem with the android console in eclipse crashing eclipse?
Jul 13 17:36:33 <the_alien> changed it now to position instead of MessagesProvider.position, but doesn't change anything at all
Jul 13 17:37:47 <AndyArmstrong> herriojr i dont understand
Jul 13 17:37:52 <AndyArmstrong> how can i do Helper.this
Jul 13 17:38:16 <AndyArmstrong> then intent takes a class function
Jul 13 17:38:18 <AndyArmstrong> not an instance
Jul 13 17:39:21 <the_alien> herriojr: ffs, i got it *sigh* there was a method setting the position. i feel so stupid
Jul 13 17:39:49 <AndyArmstrong> help!
Jul 13 17:39:52 <the_alien> AndyArmstrong: the onClick method won't be called, u can't use an OnClickeListener in an AppWidget
Jul 13 17:40:28 <the_alien> if you use a PendingIntent you can call an Activity but not tne onClick in there.
Jul 13 17:40:43 <AndyArmstrong> ok
Jul 13 17:40:48 <AndyArmstrong> so what function do i put in my new activity
Jul 13 17:40:50 <AndyArmstrong> which will be called
Jul 13 17:40:52 <AndyArmstrong> onCreate()?
Jul 13 17:40:56 <vol_> fangus: not really
Jul 13 17:41:22 <herriojr> the_alien: I do it all the time...ask RomainGuy, I've probably pissed him off more than anyone else :)
Jul 13 17:41:48 <herriojr> the_alien: I've just come to the conclusion that 99% of the time, the issue is actually something I did, and not the SDK
Jul 13 17:42:08 <the_alien> yeah, was guessing it is my fault, but i couldn't find it :D
Jul 13 17:43:45 <the_alien> AndyArmstrong: yeah
Jul 13 17:44:18 <the_alien> ffs
Jul 13 17:44:37 <the_alien> 7:45 pm... i'll have to hurry to get something at the supermarket :D
Jul 13 17:44:39 <the_alien> laters
Jul 13 17:45:31 <AndyArmstrong> this still doesnt work http://pastebin.com/m70efa27c
Jul 13 17:46:40 <AndyArmstrong> the_alien?
Jul 13 17:48:26 <AndyArmstrong> argh ffs
Jul 13 17:49:01 <muk_mb> hey, could someone explain what I'm doing wrong here? http://pastie.org/544400 I'm trying to throw a viewgroup object on top of my app's current window
Jul 13 17:49:47 <AndyArmstrong> can somebody tell me why my activity isnt doing anything
Jul 13 17:49:52 <AndyArmstrong>  http://pastebin.com/m70efa27c
Jul 13 17:51:03 <muk_mb> AndyArmstrong: you gotta setContentView in your onCreate
Jul 13 17:51:03 <herriojr> how were you able to not call super.onCreate()?
Jul 13 17:51:52 <AndyArmstrong> muk_mb setContentView then waht?
Jul 13 17:52:08 <muk_mb> just do that, and it'll display anything
Jul 13 17:52:14 <muk_mb> do you have a layout file?
Jul 13 17:52:40 <herriojr> muk_mb: with your issue, where are you calling manager.add()?
Jul 13 17:52:45 <herriojr> in onCreate?
Jul 13 17:52:54 <AndyArmstrong> yeah i do muk
Jul 13 17:52:55 <AndyArmstrong> so i do
Jul 13 17:53:04 <AndyArmstrong> SetContentView(R.layout.widget_word)
Jul 13 17:53:06 <AndyArmstrong> then it will work
Jul 13 17:53:50 <muk_mb> herriojr: in a method that gets called when the button gets clicked
Jul 13 17:53:55 <muk_mb> inside my custom ViewGroup class
Jul 13 17:54:05 <muk_mb> AndyArmstrong: yeah, then it'll at least display something.
Jul 13 17:54:29 <AndyArmstrong> im so confused  - muk_mb this helper class is meant to be a pending intent for a button in a widget
Jul 13 17:54:36 <AndyArmstrong> i just want some piece of code to run when the button is pressed
Jul 13 17:54:48 <AndyArmstrong> an appwidget i mean
Jul 13 17:56:19 <AndyArmstrong> this is my helper class http://pastebin.com/m65df760d and this is my main class where i am setting the onclickpending intent thing - http://pastebin.com/m3c11ba7c
Jul 13 17:57:46 <the_alien> AndyArmstrong: try onStart instead of onCreate. what does lolcat say?
Jul 13 17:59:24 <AndyArmstrong> it says nothing
Jul 13 17:59:33 <AndyArmstrong> says acivity starting
Jul 13 17:59:34 <AndyArmstrong> no errors
Jul 13 17:59:37 <AndyArmstrong> no other output
Jul 13 17:59:57 <the_alien> try onStart, it's the start of the visible lifetime
Jul 13 18:00:17 <keny> hi
Jul 13 18:01:30 <AndyArmstrong> tried
Jul 13 18:01:30 <AndyArmstrong> http://pastebin.com/m5501496f
Jul 13 18:01:37 <AndyArmstrong> im presuming extending activity is the correct thing to be oding here
Jul 13 18:02:24 <the_alien> what are you trying to do from your appwidget?
Jul 13 18:02:32 <AndyArmstrong> look at the pastebin...
Jul 13 18:02:38 <AndyArmstrong> im trying to show a toast notification currently
Jul 13 18:02:59 <AndyArmstrong> when i press my button
Jul 13 18:03:01 <AndyArmstrong> which is called drive
Jul 13 18:03:19 <the_alien> you could use a broadcast to show the toast notification ;)
Jul 13 18:03:42 <AndyArmstrong> i just want some way...of executing code... when this friggin button is pressed
Jul 13 18:03:44 <the_alien> thats what i did on my buttons of my widget
Jul 13 18:03:48 <AndyArmstrong> why the heck does it have to be so complicated and different
Jul 13 18:03:58 <AndyArmstrong> right, the_alien , so how do i do the broadcast method hten
Jul 13 18:05:07 <the_alien> http://pastebin.com/mf2b4e0f
Jul 13 18:05:50 <the_alien> http://pastebin.com/m233bb4fc
Jul 13 18:05:52 <the_alien> AndyArmstrong:
Jul 13 18:05:55 <the_alien> thats what i did
Jul 13 18:06:10 <the_alien> create a broadcast intent, add it to the buttons
Jul 13 18:06:26 <the_alien> register my app as an broadcast receiver for my actions in the manifest file
Jul 13 18:06:54 <the_alien> then you will get notified in the onReceive method and check the intent.getAction() what action i should execute
Jul 13 18:08:26 <AndyArmstrong> im SO confused
Jul 13 18:08:36 <the_alien> like me ;)
Jul 13 18:08:43 <AndyArmstrong> i actually dont have a clue how to do this
Jul 13 18:08:53 <AndyArmstrong> im so pissed of why is this so different to setonclicklistener
Jul 13 18:08:53 <AndyArmstrong> :@
Jul 13 18:09:09 <the_alien> how to do what?
Jul 13 18:09:14 <AndyArmstrong> i just want
Jul 13 18:09:16 <AndyArmstrong> a button
Jul 13 18:09:18 <AndyArmstrong> which when pressed
Jul 13 18:09:22 <AndyArmstrong> calls a method
Jul 13 18:09:24 <AndyArmstrong> why is this so hard
Jul 13 18:09:26 <AndyArmstrong> in an appwidget
Jul 13 18:09:43 <the_alien> i don't know
Jul 13 18:09:47 <AndyArmstrong> the_alien
Jul 13 18:09:50 <AndyArmstrong> have u got vnc
Jul 13 18:09:56 <the_alien> uhm no
Jul 13 18:10:05 <AndyArmstrong> im wondering if you could take a look at my code
Jul 13 18:10:10 <AndyArmstrong> cos u no what ur doing
Jul 13 18:10:14 <AndyArmstrong> would take like 2 mins i think
Jul 13 18:11:25 <the_alien> AndyArmstrong: i just made a running beta of my first android app which is an appwidget. ;)
Jul 13 18:11:42 <the_alien> but i download vnc and will have a look
Jul 13 18:13:47 <AndyArmstrong> thanks so much
Jul 13 18:13:47 <the_alien> or you could checkout the sources of my widget right here http://code.google.com/p/messages-widget/
Jul 13 18:14:36 <the_alien> ok qry me with server port etc
Jul 13 18:14:37 <jasta> hmm
Jul 13 18:15:00 <the_alien> hmm?
Jul 13 18:15:20 <the_alien> i need to make a new screenshot ... this one is outdated ;)
Jul 13 18:24:57 <jasongornall_> can someone tell me why my list view instead of outputing my images
Jul 13 18:25:09 <jasongornall_> I get a tostring version of the image which looks like this
Jul 13 18:28:55 <newsham> how do I fetch the kernel branch that has the goldfish stuff in it?
Jul 13 18:29:28 <kRutOn> jasongornall_: Because you're using the default item layout?
Jul 13 18:29:50 <jasongornall_> how do I use a different 1?
Jul 13 18:30:25 <aunn> non android related question, does anyone know of any laptop ($600-$800) deal with intel core 2 duo ?
Jul 13 18:30:58 <jasongornall_> 	    		new ArrayAdapter<Bitmap>(this, R.layout.row,titles);
Jul 13 18:31:04 <jasongornall_> that is the layout I am using..
Jul 13 18:31:25 <jasongornall_> titles is actually a list of bitmaps
Jul 13 18:43:35 <Radzell> has anyone used REST api in development\
Jul 13 18:55:12 <maannj> my app is stuck in loop, how do I kill it ?
Jul 13 18:55:38 <Radzell> cut the emulator off
Jul 13 18:55:40 <romainguy> DDMS, click the process, click the STOP button
Jul 13 18:56:15 <maannj> it's real device
Jul 13 18:56:21 <maannj> what's ddms ?
Jul 13 18:56:29 <Radzell> what romainguy said
Jul 13 18:56:51 <Radzell> that messager widget whos working on that
Jul 13 18:57:05 <Radzell> theres not already something out that does stuff like that
Jul 13 18:57:24 <the_alien> is there a way to make the TextView of an AppWidget scrollable?
Jul 13 18:57:43 <the_alien> or make it scroll by code if it won't work with user interaction
Jul 13 18:58:03 <romainguy> put it in a scrollview
Jul 13 18:58:11 <romainguy> but I don't think we support ScrollView in app widgets yet
Jul 13 18:58:18 <the_alien> you don't
Jul 13 18:58:23 <the_alien> regarding the docs
Jul 13 18:58:30 <the_alien> thats why i ask ;)
Jul 13 18:58:43 <herriojr> the_alien: the way I've done it is to have buttons left/right or up/down to scroll through content
Jul 13 18:58:43 <romainguy> then you can't :)
Jul 13 19:01:17 <the_alien> hm no, i don't think i add buttons to scroll through the text. if the message is too long they should read it in the sms app :D
Jul 13 19:01:42 <the_alien> btw sms app. how can i call the sms app to open up with a specific thread?
Jul 13 19:01:47 <the_alien> or sms
Jul 13 19:01:51 <the_alien> or open at all :D
Jul 13 19:02:12 <herriojr> the_alien: read the source
Jul 13 19:02:21 <the_alien> herriojr: of what?
Jul 13 19:02:28 <herriojr> of the sms app
Jul 13 19:02:38 <the_alien> ok
Jul 13 19:42:27 <bnovc> can GridViews have borders?
Jul 13 19:42:46 <licksjp> Hello
Jul 13 19:45:06 <vol_> oh hi
Jul 13 19:45:17 <licksjp> vol_, hello
Jul 13 19:45:40 <licksjp> I am Japanese and I live in Japan
Jul 13 19:49:06 <vol_> good to know
Jul 13 19:50:06 <licksjp> vol_, r u android developper?
Jul 13 19:50:24 <vol_> yes
Jul 13 19:51:12 <licksjp> Do u know "onMenuOpened"?
Jul 13 19:51:44 <vol_> Yes, what about it
Jul 13 19:52:33 <licksjp> I want to switch the language Japanese and English?
Jul 13 19:52:53 <vol_> ... ok, I don't know if you can do that within the app itself
Jul 13 19:52:58 <licksjp> But select language but it can't swicth other language
Jul 13 19:53:47 <the_alien> how long does it take for an app to show up in the market?
Jul 13 19:54:36 <licksjp> 1 app has opened but Japanese only
Jul 13 19:54:57 <licksjp> I want to open the Japanese andenglish version
Jul 13 19:55:11 <zhobbs> what do I use as the ClassLoader for Parcel.readParcelableArray(ClassLoader loader)?
Jul 13 19:56:33 <licksjp> where is quetion BBS?
Jul 13 19:59:03 <licksjp> I want to write the question in the BBS for android
Jul 13 20:03:30 <zhobbs> is there a disabled state for a button?
Jul 13 20:03:46 <zhobbs> ie, grayed out
Jul 13 20:12:45 <licksjp> hello
Jul 13 20:15:03 <licksjp> skyPhyr-, wb
Jul 13 20:15:18 <skyPhyr-> hey :)
Jul 13 20:18:58 <bnovc> i made a simple little tic tac toe game to try out android stuff and it seems to set the X and the Os in 8 out of the 9 squares, but I don't know why the top left square at pos 0 doesn't get set. the click event happens... http://bnovc.pastebin.com/m2c36e67d
Jul 13 20:19:09 <bnovc> it seems like a lot of these android classes have set methods but no get :(
Jul 13 20:27:38 <bnovc> any idaes?
Jul 13 20:34:15 <Lieutenant> who's using hero?
Jul 13 20:34:31 <Lieutenant> JAC's latest version? is it fast?
Jul 13 21:11:19 <herriojr> what have people found as the best way to distribute aidls?
Jul 13 21:18:23 <Lieutenant> AIDS?
Jul 13 21:18:27 <Lieutenant> unprotected sex.
Jul 13 21:18:39 <grey-> *rimshot*
Jul 13 21:24:20 <rejser> *rimjob*
Jul 13 21:25:01 <grey-> I had a feeling that was going to be coming. ;)
Jul 13 21:32:19 <herriojr> *sigh*
Jul 13 21:32:26 <herriojr> I didn't see that coming :)
Jul 13 21:40:15 <Lieutenant> neither did i.
Jul 13 21:40:26 <Lieutenant> i had my eyes closed though.
Jul 13 22:07:57 <the_alien> is there a way to test an app with different hardware platforms?
Jul 13 22:10:08 <herriojr> the_alien: can you be a little more specific?
Jul 13 22:10:54 <the_alien> herriojr: i released the first version of my widget today and one comments that it has no hero support.
Jul 13 22:10:54 <herriojr> the_alien: android, currently, only has support for certain hardware (processors, etc.), so it depends on what level you mean
Jul 13 22:12:08 <herriojr> the_alien: so, you may ask your user what exactly they mean by that, since the hero should be using the same appwidget structure
Jul 13 22:12:37 <the_alien> yeah, but how should i contact him?
Jul 13 22:12:46 <frez> the_alien: is it on the market ?
Jul 13 22:12:49 <the_alien> maybe it is the sms content resolver...
Jul 13 22:12:52 <the_alien> frez: yeah
Jul 13 22:12:53 <zhobbs> from the vids I've seen of Hero I wouldn't be surprised if it didn't support AppWidget widgets
Jul 13 22:13:17 <the_alien> zhobbs: in the videos they show the google widgets...
Jul 13 22:13:22 <KNY> (this is one of the downsides to having multiple platforms, unlike apple)
Jul 13 22:13:23 <herriojr> from the videos I've seen, it looks like it supports appwidgets
Jul 13 22:13:25 <zhobbs> the_alien: which ones?
Jul 13 22:13:34 <KNY> but the upsides > downsides
Jul 13 22:13:36 <herriojr> the_alien: no, some of them aren't really widgets
Jul 13 22:14:14 <herriojr> the_alien: like google search isn't a widget
Jul 13 22:14:15 <frez> the_alien: Download to my magic to check it out :)
Jul 13 22:14:32 <frez> Downloading*
Jul 13 22:14:42 <the_alien> even though i don't get it why someone with hero would like a sms widget, they have a pretty awesome thing :)
Jul 13 22:14:45 <herriojr> I couldn't figure out how to install the zip provided on xda-developers to the magic
Jul 13 22:14:46 <the_alien> thanks frez
Jul 13 22:14:50 <the_alien> oh and rate it high ;)
Jul 13 22:14:57 <frez> :)
Jul 13 22:15:28 <the_alien> herriojr: tried the hero rom from xda-dev. pretty kewl, but crappy slow on the g1
Jul 13 22:15:33 <frez> the_alien: it doesn't show contact name, only the number
Jul 13 22:16:02 <herriojr> the_alien: I can't install it b/c it reads to update it, but fastboot doesn't recognize my device
Jul 13 22:16:32 <herriojr> the_alien: and I can't do it via the update method since I don't have a keyboard :-/
Jul 13 22:16:55 <the_alien> thats bad herriojr. but you won't keep it anyways ;)
Jul 13 22:17:30 <the_alien> frez: would be nice to have lolcat, number in the sms and in the contact (you can make the last numbers anreadable )
Jul 13 22:17:34 <the_alien> *unreadable
Jul 13 22:17:51 <the_alien> frez: you can mail it or post it on the website
Jul 13 22:18:18 <frez> the_alien: I tried sending myself a sms and the app has stopped unexpectedly
Jul 13 22:18:41 <the_alien> frez: ok... THATS bad :/ plz send me the lolcat
Jul 13 22:19:20 <frez> the_alien: Have to go to bed, work in the morning, but I will check it out tomorrow :)
Jul 13 22:21:02 <the_alien> frez: would be cool. have a nice sleep
Jul 13 22:25:29 <herriojr> the_alien: what app is it you made?
Jul 13 22:25:47 <the_alien> http://www.cyrket.com/package/de.heimlich.gut
Jul 13 22:26:28 <the_alien> @herriojr
Jul 13 22:26:48 <herriojr> the_alien: I'll try it out :)
Jul 13 22:26:55 <the_alien> or have a look here http://code.google.com/p/messages-widget/ ;)
Jul 13 22:28:54 <herriojr> the_alien: when you click on the notification after it downloads, it would be a good idea to take it to auto-launch the configure screen if you can...right now it just pops up and says error
Jul 13 22:29:30 <the_alien> herriojr: no configure screen right now :/ but it is on the list
Jul 13 22:30:05 <the_alien> herriojr: unbelievable how fast i got a few feedbacks and requests ;) will do some work on it this week
Jul 13 22:30:20 <herriojr> the_alien: it's open source, right?
Jul 13 22:30:25 <the_alien> but not now, my girlfriend is going to kill me if i start up eclipse right now ;)
Jul 13 22:30:29 <the_alien> herriojr: yes
Jul 13 22:30:31 <wizzler> when is it good to externalize stings to strings.xml?
Jul 13 22:30:36 <herriojr> the_alien: I'll help you out with it
Jul 13 22:30:46 <the_alien> herriojr: great
Jul 13 22:31:01 <herriojr> you're having the same issue I'm having with my widget...sometimes the buttons are unresponsive when clicking page after page
Jul 13 22:31:12 <the_alien> herriojr: i'm off right now. see you
Jul 13 22:31:16 <herriojr> adios
Jul 13 22:39:33 <AndyArmstrong> hi yall
Jul 13 22:50:47 <AndyArmstrong> hi.
Jul 13 22:54:29 <AndyArmstrong> halo!?
Jul 13 22:58:09 <AndyArmstrong> hello anyone up late coding tonight?!
Jul 13 22:58:21 <SanMehat> lol
Jul 13 22:59:22 <AndyArmstrong> do activities need to be added to the manifest file?!
Jul 13 23:04:50 <AndyArmstrong> hello
Jul 13 23:04:52 <AndyArmstrong> anybody!?
Jul 13 23:10:35 <AndyArmstrong> does anybody know how to turn on the bluetooth programatically
Jul 13 23:19:28 <AndyArmstrong> hi
Jul 13 23:34:46 <AndyArmstrong> hi
Jul 13 23:51:03 <AndyArmstrong> is anybody here
Jul 13 23:52:38 <jasta> ues
Jul 13 23:52:40 <jasta> yes
Jul 13 23:53:09 <AndyArmstrong> oh wow!
Jul 13 23:53:15 <AndyArmstrong> finally! hey jasta
Jul 13 23:53:22 <AndyArmstrong> im tryna enable bluetooth within a service
Jul 13 23:53:44 <AndyArmstrong>  Settings.Secure.putInt(getContentResolver(),
Jul 13 23:53:44 <AndyArmstrong>         	Settings.Secure.BLUETOOTH_ON, 1);
Jul 13 23:53:48 <AndyArmstrong> this is not working
Jul 13 23:54:12 <jasta> i have heard rumblings that this API has become privileged in cupcake (i.e. you need a permission granted to use it).  look at the release notes / api docs for cupcake for more details.
Jul 13 23:57:15 <AndyArmstrong> yeah i added 2 permissions
Jul 13 23:57:17 <AndyArmstrong> makes no diff
Jul 13 23:57:30 <jasta> were they granted to you?
Jul 13 23:57:39 <jasta> and were they the right ones?
Jul 13 23:57:58 <jasta> this should be very easy to figure out using documentation (release notes / api diffs) and adb logcat.
Jul 13 23:58:13 <jasta> if you still can't work it out, look at the Settings app source code to figure out how it's doing it.
Jul 13 23:58:17 <AndyArmstrong> permission.BLUETOOTH_ADMIN
Jul 13 23:58:18 <AndyArmstrong> and
Jul 13 23:58:27 <AndyArmstrong> permission.WRITE_SETTINGS
Jul 13 23:58:30 <jasta> i don't know the answer that you seek specifically, i only know how to find answers.
Jul 13 23:59:28 <AndyArmstrong> well the exception being thrown is
Jul 13 23:59:34 <jasta> really, i'm not interested :)
Jul 13 23:59:46 <AndyArmstrong> cannot write secure settings table
Jul 14 00:00:50 <AndyArmstrong> where do i find the settings app source code!
Jul 14 00:01:25 <jasta> android.git.kernel.org
Jul 14 00:02:18 <AndyArmstrong> omg its goliath
Jul 14 00:02:29 <AndyArmstrong> the docs are appauling for bluetooth etc
Jul 14 00:02:32 <AndyArmstrong> dont mention anything....
Jul 14 00:02:35 <AndyArmstrong> its pure guesswork
Jul 14 00:04:05 <AndyArmstrong> infact
Jul 14 00:04:07 <AndyArmstrong> just found it
Jul 14 00:04:11 <AndyArmstrong> that IS how its done in the source code
Jul 14 00:04:19 <AndyArmstrong> of settings app
Jul 14 00:04:24 <jasta> and what about the permissions it holds?
Jul 14 00:04:41 <AndyArmstrong> no idea
Jul 14 00:04:48 <AndyArmstrong> where can i find it in the dosc
Jul 14 00:04:50 <AndyArmstrong> **docs
Jul 14 00:04:58 <jasta> look at the apps manifest
Jul 14 00:06:34 <AndyArmstrong> i dont have it
Jul 14 00:06:42 <AndyArmstrong> cos i am lookin at the specific comments other people are saying online
Jul 14 00:06:48 <AndyArmstrong> but theres i no mention of the permissions it holds
Jul 14 00:07:01 <jasta> i'm not interested in doing this for you buddy :)
Jul 14 00:07:05 <jasta> just look at the apps manifest.
Jul 14 00:07:19 <AndyArmstrong> how the hell am i gona find it in that massive git thing
Jul 14 00:07:36 <kRutOn> *facepalm*
Jul 14 00:07:47 <jclinton> just stop now, you aren't
Jul 14 00:07:55 <jclinton> :)
Jul 14 00:08:02 <AndyArmstrong> jclinton probably not
Jul 14 00:08:14 <AndyArmstrong> im surprised its so unknown how to toggle the bluetooth
Jul 14 00:08:14 <AndyArmstrong> :@
Jul 14 00:08:17 <AndyArmstrong> i need to do it tho
Jul 14 00:08:22 <AndyArmstrong> dam sure i got the right line
Jul 14 00:08:25 <AndyArmstrong> just wrong permissions
Jul 14 00:09:17 <jasta> AndyArmstrong: im surprised you can't use your browsers search feature.
Jul 14 00:09:34 <AndyArmstrong> jasta - i can, but theres nothing in here on it
Jul 14 00:09:54 <jasta> what did i tell you the app was called?
Jul 14 00:11:04 <AndyArmstrong> Settings app
Jul 14 00:11:50 <jasta> and you claim that is not on android.git.kernel.org?
Jul 14 00:14:02 <kRutOn> AndyArmstrong: I think all you can do is call the activity that can turn on bluetooth
Jul 14 00:14:57 <AndyA> ok...
Jul 14 00:15:00 <AndyA> whats that called
Jul 14 00:15:21 <kRutOn> start it on your phone and look what it says in logcat
Jul 14 00:16:32 <b0nn> hmm
Jul 14 00:16:42 <b0nn> Im having trouble with GPS
Jul 14 00:17:06 <b0nn> Im wondering if anyone can send me to a good link that helps with troubleshooting it
Jul 14 00:17:27 <b0nn> the trouble is, I am unable to update the gps location in the emulator
Jul 14 00:20:39 <meanburrito920_> does anyone know how to properly use footers on a list view? I used addFooter(View v) and its throwing a null pointer error at me
Jul 14 00:20:57 <kRutOn> b0nn: I think that's in the android developer guide, but as far as problems, youll probably have to google search for the solutions
Jul 14 00:23:57 <b0nn> kRutOn: thanks, I have been for the last week
Jul 14 00:25:02 <kRutOn> You're using DDMS and all that?
Jul 14 00:26:11 <b0nn> yeah
Jul 14 00:26:21 <b0nn> even telnet will not update the gps position
Jul 14 00:27:40 <b0nn> my onStatusChanged method is called in the LocationListener (occasionally)
Jul 14 00:28:05 <b0nn> but no actual change in the GPS location (it is reset to Long 0, Lat 0)
Jul 14 00:36:32 <keny> what happens if I rely on <com.android.internal.widget.NumberPicker /> ?
Jul 14 00:36:39 <keny> can that break my application in the future ?
Jul 14 00:36:58 <keny> I wonder why this is an internal widget, it seems to be so useful
Jul 14 00:41:03 <kRutOn> b0nn: Are you using a Google API 1.5 target SVD
Jul 14 00:41:09 <kRutOn> er, AVD
Jul 14 00:44:19 <b0nn> yes
Jul 14 00:44:40 <b0nn> kRutOn: it /was/ working at one point, then, inexplicably, it has stopped working
Jul 14 00:44:48 <b0nn> and I'm trying to figure out why
Jul 14 00:48:56 <b0nn> I'll try this
Jul 14 00:49:01 <b0nn> http://pastebin.com/m12d06588
Jul 14 00:49:29 <b0nn> I have been unable to getLongitude() or getLatitude() with values other than 0.0 for the last week
Jul 14 01:14:54 <AndyA> hey kRutOn u still there
Jul 14 01:17:07 <AndyA> ..
Jul 14 01:17:49 <AndyA> 07-14 02:15:46.735: DEBUG/BluetoothDeviceService(56): Bluetooth state 1 -> 2
Jul 14 01:17:49 <AndyA> 07-14 02:15:46.755: VERBOSE/BluetoothEventRedirector(6034): Received android.bluetooth.intent.action.BLUETOOTH_STATE_CHANGED
Jul 14 01:17:49 <AndyA> 07-14 02:15:46.855: DEBUG/A2dpAudioInterface(35): setParameter bluetooth_enabled,true
Jul 14 01:17:49 <AndyA> 07-14 02:15:46.855: DEBUG/A2dpAudioInterface(35): setBluetoothEnabled 1
Jul 14 01:17:55 <AndyA> this is what i see when i turn on bluetooth
Jul 14 01:18:04 <AndyA> what is intent name ??
Jul 14 01:18:10 <AndyA> android.bluetooth.intenr.action?
Jul 14 01:23:23 <AndyA> ,..,.
Jul 14 01:26:56 <AndyA> god dam
Jul 14 01:26:59 <AndyA> anybody!?
Jul 14 01:27:45 <AndyA> .,.,.,.,
Jul 14 01:28:13 <AndyA> ,..,.,.,
Jul 14 01:30:08 <AndyA> does ANYONE know how to bloomin turn on the bluetooth programaticall
Jul 14 01:30:39 <KNY> AndyA, patience is a virtue.
Jul 14 01:34:59 <AndyA> KNY i have little amounts of it
Jul 14 01:35:05 <AndyA> and ive spent 4 hours trying to do this
Jul 14 01:35:09 <AndyA> :(
Jul 14 01:35:12 <AndyA> do you know how!?
Jul 14 01:35:19 <b0nn> hmm, have you tried google?
Jul 14 01:35:20 <KNY> AndyA, then perhaps IRC isn't the correct medium for you
Jul 14 01:35:32 <KNY> AndyA, if I knew, I would have answered. That's generally how this works.
Jul 14 01:36:10 <AndyA> b0nn yah, tons of googling
Jul 14 01:41:52 <AndyA> is this using an old api : http://www.anddev.org/recognize-react_on_incoming_sms-t295.html
Jul 14 01:42:00 <AndyA> because some of the imports dont seem correct
Jul 14 01:42:03 <AndyA> in particular
Jul 14 01:42:19 <AndyA> import android.content.IntentReceiver;
Jul 14 01:43:41 <AndyA> and the telephony line
Jul 14 01:43:44 <AndyA> cos it doesnt work for me
Jul 14 01:45:17 <b0nn> AndyA: http://pastebin.com/m49033dbd
Jul 14 01:46:18 <AndyA> b0nn seriously - that it!?
Jul 14 01:46:23 <AndyA> do i need to add anything to manifest
Jul 14 01:46:44 <b0nn> yes
Jul 14 01:46:47 <AndyA> what
Jul 14 01:48:16 <b0nn> http://pastebin.com/m411a2360
Jul 14 01:48:29 <b0nn> anything else you need is in the api
Jul 14 01:48:38 <AndyA> incredible
Jul 14 01:48:46 <AndyA> so i presume it easy to read the contents of the new message
Jul 14 01:49:06 <b0nn> yes, but you need different permissions
Jul 14 01:49:22 <b0nn> eg
Jul 14 01:49:33 <b0nn>  <uses-permission android:name="android.permission.READ_SMS" />
Jul 14 01:49:51 <AndyA> so do you read the message from within that first pastebin?
Jul 14 01:51:25 <b0nn> AndyA: second hit off google for "android read sms"
Jul 14 01:51:27 <b0nn> http://stackoverflow.com/questions/900294/android-1-5-reading-sms-messages
Jul 14 01:51:51 <AndyA> hmm, it is saying that my manifest is not correct http://pastebin.com/m3ce1ace8
Jul 14 01:51:58 <AndyA> "malformed"
Jul 14 01:54:20 <AndyA> why
Jul 14 01:57:06 <AndyA>  hmm, it is saying that my manifest is not correct http://pastebin.com/m3ce1ace8
Jul 14 01:58:46 <KNY> AndyA, we saw. You don't need to repeat yourself.
Jul 14 02:05:05 <twois10> anyone know why am getting this error trying to install ndk on x64 machine http://pastebin.org/1443
Jul 14 02:06:06 <KNY> sounds like your linker isn't working. Also, don't crosspost between channels.
Jul 14 02:07:10 <twois10> KNY:  i figured this was more an appropriate place to post the question, though i had posted it on the other channel
Jul 14 02:08:08 <twois10> tells me my linker is not working, i dont know how to resolve this. i have the 32bit devel packages installed
Jul 14 02:09:18 <AndyA> so can anybody help me fix up my manifest
Jul 14 02:09:23 <AndyA> seems it doesnt like the 2 receiver tags
Jul 14 02:23:26 <AndyA> why might something work in the emulator
Jul 14 02:23:30 <AndyA> when i move it across onto fone
Jul 14 02:23:32 <AndyA> it doesnt
Jul 14 02:23:40 <AndyA> i.e a toast notifation i use as a test aint showing on fone
Jul 14 02:23:42 <AndyA> but shows on emulator
Jul 14 02:24:00 <KNY> adb logcat
Jul 14 02:24:30 <AndyA> im lookin at logcat
Jul 14 02:24:35 <AndyA> it doesnt even register my button press
Jul 14 02:24:53 <KNY> are you sure you reinstalled it on the right device?
Jul 14 02:26:13 <AndyA> yeah i plug the fone in and it installs to that device
Jul 14 02:26:23 <KNY> phone
Jul 14 02:30:05 <AndyA> yeah on the phone it doesnt recognise the button press
Jul 14 02:30:11 <AndyA> yet on the emulator its working fine
Jul 14 02:39:08 <pinaise> hi
Jul 14 02:39:31 <pinaise> does anyone know why i can't use swing components in android?
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