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Jul 16 03:07:24 <licksjp> hello
Jul 16 03:07:57 <The-Compiler> hi
Jul 16 03:08:17 <licksjp> The-Compiler, hello
Jul 16 03:08:26 <licksjp> I am Japanese
Jul 16 03:08:34 <licksjp> I live in Japan
Jul 16 03:17:49 <neonfreon> i live in kabuchiko
Jul 16 03:20:06 <licksjp> neonfreon, Is it a kabukicho???
Jul 16 03:20:35 <neonfreon> yes
Jul 16 03:20:37 <neonfreon> oops
Jul 16 03:20:49 <neonfreon> well, i used to live right near there at least heheh
Jul 16 03:21:13 <neonfreon> nishi-shinjuku
Jul 16 03:21:41 <licksjp> oic
Jul 16 03:21:49 <licksjp> I live in Nara city
Jul 16 03:22:08 <licksjp> too far
Jul 16 03:22:12 <neonfreon> osaka-ban
Jul 16 03:22:28 <licksjp> Near Osaka
Jul 16 03:22:37 <licksjp> Next Osaka
Jul 16 03:22:53 <KNY> what android phone did you folks get in .jp?
Jul 16 03:23:24 <licksjp> I have a dev phone
Jul 16 03:23:29 <KNY> adp1?
Jul 16 03:24:00 <licksjp> KNY, what is adpl?
Jul 16 03:24:07 <KNY> android developer phone 1
Jul 16 03:24:15 <KNY> basically, a pre-rooted G1
Jul 16 03:24:34 <licksjp> android developer phone 1
Jul 16 03:25:10 <licksjp> I have entryed the soft in android market
Jul 16 03:30:09 <licksjp> KNY, where do u live?
Jul 16 03:30:14 <KNY> US
Jul 16 03:30:30 <licksjp> KNY, r u developer?
Jul 16 03:30:38 <KNY> yes
Jul 16 03:31:38 <licksjp> have u entryed ur soft inandroidmarket yet?
Jul 16 03:31:54 <KNY> yes
Jul 16 03:32:11 <KNY> http://www.cyrket.com/search?q=pub%3A%22Evan+Charlton%22
Jul 16 03:38:20 <licksjp> advance has disturbed
Jul 16 03:38:58 <licksjp> KNY, u have entryed many softs
Jul 16 03:39:12 <KNY> licksjp, I just linked you.
Jul 16 03:39:57 <licksjp> I can't see  ur soft all title
Jul 16 03:40:16 <KNY> <KNY> http://www.cyrket.com/search?q=pub%3A%22Evan+Charlton%22
Jul 16 03:42:10 <licksjp> KNY, many comments
Jul 16 03:42:55 <licksjp> advance has obstacled
Jul 16 03:43:26 <licksjp> KNY my soft has no comments yet
Jul 16 03:44:01 <KNY> that's unfortunate
Jul 16 03:49:25 <licksjp> KNY, when did u entryed the soft,did u get the comment right now?
Jul 16 03:49:41 <KNY> yes
Jul 16 03:50:04 <AakashPatel> hey all
Jul 16 03:50:16 <licksjp> AakashPatel, hello
Jul 16 03:50:20 <AakashPatel> hai
Jul 16 03:50:28 <AakashPatel> haz you made apps yet?
Jul 16 03:50:33 <AakashPatel> i learning am
Jul 16 03:50:44 <licksjp> AakashPatel, I am Japanese and i live in Japan
Jul 16 03:51:21 <licksjp> AakashPatel, I have entryed the soft in Android market yet
Jul 16 03:51:24 <AakashPatel> konichiwa
Jul 16 03:52:14 <licksjp> AakashPatel, where do u live?
Jul 16 03:52:23 <AakashPatel> america
Jul 16 03:52:34 <licksjp> oic
Jul 16 03:53:17 <AakashPatel> oh yes
Jul 16 03:54:12 <licksjp> But my soft is no comment
Jul 16 03:54:23 <KNY> maybe it sucks?
Jul 16 03:54:24 <AakashPatel> is it gewd?
Jul 16 03:55:21 <licksjp> brb
Jul 16 03:56:06 <AakashPatel> brb, what this does mean?
Jul 16 04:02:02 <licksjp> re
Jul 16 04:02:14 <licksjp> brb is be right back
Jul 16 04:06:06 <licksjp> hello
Jul 16 04:07:41 <licksjp> KNY what is SUCKS?
Jul 16 04:08:16 <AakashPatel> oh see i undurstund
Jul 16 04:09:39 <licksjp> AakashPatel, what time in ur country?
Jul 16 04:09:47 <AakashPatel> 23:09
Jul 16 04:10:20 <licksjp> mid night
Jul 16 04:10:31 <AakashPatel> ehh
Jul 16 04:10:31 <licksjp> U have to go tobed soon
Jul 16 04:10:33 <AakashPatel> 1 hour
Jul 16 04:10:37 <AakashPatel> nahh
Jul 16 04:10:43 <KNY> the night is young
Jul 16 04:10:48 <AakashPatel> oh yes
Jul 16 04:10:50 <AakashPatel> time to party
Jul 16 04:10:59 <AakashPatel> KNY: pizza and beer!
Jul 16 04:11:08 * KNY high-fives AakashPatel 
Jul 16 04:12:02 <AakashPatel> beh
Jul 16 04:12:04 <AakashPatel> im out
Jul 16 04:12:07 <AakashPatel> peace doobies
Jul 16 04:12:16 <AakashPatel> and btw, licksjp, i was fuckin with you haha
Jul 16 04:16:42 <AakashPatel> lol
Jul 16 04:16:46 <AakashPatel> okay a few more mins
Jul 16 04:17:05 <licksjp> btw,Have u entryed ur soft in Androidmarket yet?
Jul 16 04:18:51 <AakashPatel> my software is obsolete
Jul 16 04:18:53 <AakashPatel> wifi lock
Jul 16 04:19:06 <AakashPatel> only useful in 1.0 and 1.1 really
Jul 16 04:20:35 <licksjp> AakashPatel, my soft is BMI calc
Jul 16 04:20:42 <AakashPatel> oh
Jul 16 04:21:07 <KNY> aren't there already like 348967 BMI calculators?
Jul 16 04:21:27 <AakashPatel> last i counted 348968
Jul 16 04:21:35 <AakashPatel> KNY: only 1 off ;)
Jul 16 04:21:46 <elprespufferfish> can somebody help me convert my listview into something usable inside of a scrollview?
Jul 16 04:21:51 <KNY> AakashPatel, well, his made is 348968
Jul 16 04:21:58 <KNY> s/ is/ it/
Jul 16 04:22:00 <AakashPatel> hah
Jul 16 04:22:04 <AakashPatel> im out for real this time
Jul 16 04:22:06 <AakashPatel> peace
Jul 16 04:22:06 <licksjp> KNY, my BMI soft is no comment yet
Jul 16 04:22:07 <KNY> peace, AakashPatel
Jul 16 04:22:57 <KNY> licksjp, that's probably because there are already tons of BMI calculators and no one needs another one, especially not one with an ugly icon
Jul 16 05:03:46 <duane> how do I get the "layout" view of the android layout xml editor to work again? It's currently giving me a "NullPointerException: null" where it draws the views normally
Jul 16 05:05:07 <chihiro> KNY are you still there ?
Jul 16 05:05:19 <KNY> yeah, what's up?
Jul 16 05:08:14 <chihiro> Ok. I crafted a subclass of AsyncTask inside my activity. i.e. private static class MyTask extends ... I simulate the long running task by a sleep. Are you saying I should assign an instance of MyTask to a static member during my button OnClickListener & return that instance during onRetainConfigurationChanged() ?
Jul 16 05:13:10 <KNY> it doesn't need to be a static member
Jul 16 05:13:48 <KNY> just do private MyTask mTask; and then in onCreate() do mTask = (MyTask) getLastNonConfig...();
Jul 16 05:14:00 <KNY> and onRetainNon...() { return mTask; }
Jul 16 05:17:28 <chihiro> In the AsyncTask#onPostExecute(..), I am referencing a local variable EditText _resultWidget. If I understand the orientation change system, it recreates the EditText when it calls my onCreate() again. Right ?
Jul 16 05:19:27 <KNY> well, it should be a static class, so you'll have to pass in the new activity instance
Jul 16 05:19:34 <KNY> let me make a quick pastebin for you
Jul 16 05:22:31 <KNY> chihiro, something like this: http://paste2.org/p/328159
Jul 16 05:26:18 <chihiro> Thanks for that pastebin. But is there a guarantee that when you're assigning the mTask#activity field, the task will not complete its background job & tries to call its activity member. That would throw NPE, no ?
Jul 16 05:26:48 <KNY> chihiro, remember that onPostExecute runs on the same thread on onCreate
Jul 16 05:27:00 <KNY> so yes, it's guaranteed to not have a race condition
Jul 16 05:28:24 <chihiro> Ok. I better go read the javadoc once again & understand this fully. You've been a great help.
Jul 16 05:29:01 <KNY> no problem
Jul 16 05:29:15 <KNY> I asked that exact same question when I was first using asynctasks
Jul 16 05:29:15 <KNY> heh
Jul 16 05:29:24 <KNY> just in time, romainguy :)
Jul 16 05:30:24 <chihiro> I'll probably have to read the code for Shelves with a magnifying glass & understand everything. Most of the android books don't cover AsyncTasks yet!
Jul 16 05:30:50 <KNY> chihiro, I'm not even sure shelves uses AsyncTask (though it uses UserTask which is identical)
Jul 16 05:31:19 <]WM[KnaveWave> Hello All, could someone help explain why my service is not getting an onBind() for each bindService() call?
Jul 16 05:31:22 <chihiro> Sorry. Yes, it is using UserTask.
Jul 16 05:31:27 <romainguy__> but it's the same thing
Jul 16 05:38:11 <kRutOn> ]WM[KnaveWave: I think it only calls that once and the onRebind subsequently
Jul 16 05:39:45 <kRutOn> ]WM[KnaveWave: Are you returning true in onUnbind?
Jul 16 05:40:12 <]WM[KnaveWave> thanks for the response KRutOn, do you know if there are any tricks to change this behavior?
Jul 16 05:40:24 <]WM[KnaveWave> I tried both
Jul 16 05:41:14 <]WM[KnaveWave> w/ true I do get onRebind(), but the main thing I am shooting for is to get a new IBinder from onBind
Jul 16 08:14:01 <pigoz> I'm trying to use sqlite but SQLiteDatabase.openOrCreateDatabase fails :/
Jul 16 08:15:12 <pigoz> I get the error: sqlite3_open_v2("path", &handle, 6, NULL) failed (where path is the database path)
Jul 16 08:15:32 <pigoz> anyone knows how to fix this?
Jul 16 09:56:37 <chihiro> I've got a question.
Jul 16 09:59:15 <chihiro> How would you normally hook up changes in the state of a Widget with another ? This is a Publish-Subscribe pattern. Does one use the java.util.Observable/Observer method or is there a more native (android) method ?
Jul 16 12:13:51 <Matt___> has anyone got experience of using ANDROID_ID?
Jul 16 13:14:06 <rlundy82-> is there any sort of onEvent to handle orientation changes? I have an ImageView that loads an image dynamically from a byte[], when I change orientation, it reverts back to the placeholder image. If theres an onEvent, I can set it again and all is well
Jul 16 13:29:20 <zhobbs_> rlundy82-: onSaveInstanceState(), and onPause(), onStop(), onDestroy(), etc
Jul 16 13:29:39 <zhobbs_> could also override the ImageView's onSaveInstanceState
Jul 16 13:38:03 <whaledawg> rlundy82: when the orientation is changed the activity is destroyed and recreated(with the horizontal layout if you specified that) so the regular lifecycle methods are your callbacks
Jul 16 13:54:27 <rlundy82-> whaledawg, ic
Jul 16 13:54:38 <rlundy82-> whaledawg, zhobbs_ thanks
Jul 16 14:09:48 <whaledawg> can yo make up your own permission class in the manifest?
Jul 16 14:09:55 <whaledawg> yo=you
Jul 16 14:10:31 <whaledawg> Like permission to contact the user with special offers
Jul 16 14:55:15 <didou> guys, I just finished my app, it's running fine on the emulator
Jul 16 14:55:28 <didou> on a G1 device, whenever I click one of my Tabs, the app crashes
Jul 16 14:55:36 <didou> I cannot reproduce the problem on the emulator
Jul 16 14:56:01 <didou> and I can't get eclipse to reconize my G1 (Ubuntu 9.04, Eclipse Ganymede)
Jul 16 14:57:47 <didou> any clue on how I can find the bug ?
Jul 16 14:59:13 <whaledawg> when you connect your g1, are you connecting it to a USB hub or directly the a USB on the computer?
Jul 16 15:04:32 <Radzell> has anyone had trouble porting a android project from svn
Jul 16 15:05:12 <Radzell> when i do it says i am missing .class file
Jul 16 15:06:41 <Matt___> Radzell I never successfully got SVN to work between 2 computers, but that was a good 6 months ago when I tried
Jul 16 15:07:02 <Matt___> didou have you also set your G1 to debugging mode?
Jul 16 15:07:29 <Matt___> Does anyone have much experience about putting there apps on the market? and if so could I chat to you for a cpl of mins?
Jul 16 15:09:19 <Radzell> somthing is wrong with android when you do that
Jul 16 15:09:33 <Radzell> has anyone used oauth with android
Jul 16 15:09:41 <Radzell> for like a twitter app
Jul 16 15:15:19 <odites> Hi, I've a problem with eclipse when I try to install the ADT plugin: http://nopaste.com/p/alBplLJME
Jul 16 15:17:25 <vol_> the adt should have specified dependancies that it requires and attempted to get them too, or whine at you about it.
Jul 16 15:17:34 <vol_> what version of eclipse did you install?
Jul 16 15:17:46 <vol_> also, are you installing for the first time, or upgrading?
Jul 16 15:22:43 <Matt___> Thats a good point, I ended up installing ganymede instead of the latest version of eclipse because the plugin seemed a bit buggy/not as integrated on the latest one
Jul 16 15:25:19 <odites> vol_, This is the first time I installed it, and stupidly, I installed eclipse-classic ... sorry for disturbing
Jul 16 15:27:32 <vol_> eclipse classic is fine.
Jul 16 15:27:58 <vol_> but that's a good point. the newest plugin needs eclipse 3.4 or newer.
Jul 16 15:28:32 <vol_> actually, I don't recall.
Jul 16 15:29:05 <odites> vol_, I just read that I need to install eclipse-jee °.°
Jul 16 15:29:41 <vol_> oh no!
Jul 16 15:29:45 <vol_> don't get j5ee
Jul 16 15:29:47 <vol_> you want j5se
Jul 16 15:30:05 <vol_> actually, I don't know if j5ee allows j5se development, but you definately want se not ee
Jul 16 15:31:06 <odites> °_°
Jul 16 15:32:38 <odites> so I need to install classic?
Jul 16 15:37:21 <Matt___> the plugin is built for 3.3 or 3.4 I believe when i last checked
Jul 16 15:37:27 <Matt___> the latest is 3.5
Jul 16 15:38:00 <Matt___> I always installed Eclipse IDE for Java EE, but the version can be added to to get the functionality of the other versions
Jul 16 15:41:20 <vol_> use classic, or java.
Jul 16 15:41:31 <vol_> but yeah, what matt said
Jul 16 15:41:38 <vol_> you should be able to download the functionality as an addon
Jul 16 15:42:10 <Matt___> odite i installed this one (not sure if it has extra stuff not needed for android dev but its never let me down http://www.eclipse.org/downloads/download.php?file=/technology/epp/downloads/release/ganymede/SR2/eclipse-jee-ganymede-SR2-macosx-carbon.tar.gz
Jul 16 15:42:51 <odites> jee
Jul 16 15:43:04 <vol_> yeah, that's the java ee one
Jul 16 15:43:13 <odites> mmm
Jul 16 15:43:44 <vol_> frankly I'd just suggest getting "Eclipse IDE for Java Developers" and trying again.
Jul 16 15:44:00 <vol_> It might be a little more time but I don't think it's unreasonable at this point to suggest starting clean.
Jul 16 15:44:28 <odites> Should I try 3.4 jee ?
Jul 16 15:44:48 <vol_> http://www.eclipse.org/downloads/download.php?file=/technology/epp/downloads/release/galileo/R/eclipse-java-galileo-win32.zip
Jul 16 15:44:51 <vol_> this guy
Jul 16 15:45:03 <vol_> give it a shot
Jul 16 15:45:50 <vol_> if that doesn't work (that's 3.5) try this http://www.eclipse.org/downloads/download.php?file=/technology/epp/downloads/release/ganymede/SR2/eclipse-java-ganymede-SR2-win32.zip
Jul 16 15:45:57 <vol_> this one is 3.4
Jul 16 15:47:26 <odites> vol_, your first link is the classic edition, isn't?
Jul 16 15:47:55 <odites> I have a headache!!
Jul 16 15:48:01 <vol_> I don't believe it is
Jul 16 15:48:12 <vol_> it should be "Eclipse IDE for Java Developers, and 92 MB
Jul 16 15:48:30 <Matt___> its not odites
Jul 16 15:48:51 <Matt___> that one will work, it just didnt work because of using classic is all
Jul 16 15:48:56 <kenpl> where could I get the source code android.content.res.Resources?
Jul 16 15:52:19 <droid001> kenpl: frameworks/base/core/java/android/content/res/Resources.java
Jul 16 15:54:53 <kenpl> droid001: got it, thanks
Jul 16 15:58:01 <odites> vol_, can I develop with openjdk or not?
Jul 16 16:06:40 <Matt___> I have a button and I used a .9.png for the background which works greats, I was wondering if anyone knows if I can set it to change background or color when it is clicked?
Jul 16 16:09:57 <zhobbs> Matt___: state drawable
Jul 16 16:10:05 <zhobbs> Matt___: you can do this in xml in res/drawable
Jul 16 16:10:55 <Matt___> so in the xml I can define a button and then just have to define a state?
Jul 16 16:13:06 <zhobbs> Matt___: see the xml files in: http://android.git.kernel.org/?p=platform/frameworks/base.git;a=tree;f=core/res/res/drawable;h=82c3b3607743f0c62b173a213c5c8f5fb3d285ca;hb=HEAD
Jul 16 16:15:17 <Matt___> zhobbs: ooo i see, so for the background variable of my button would I just create my own version of say the btn_default.xml?
Jul 16 16:15:54 <zhobbs> Matt___: yea
Jul 16 16:16:05 <jasta> yawn
Jul 16 16:16:15 <jasta> where ya from Matt?
Jul 16 16:16:20 <Matt___> ooo that is very clever, cheers zhobbs
Jul 16 16:16:34 <Matt___> jasta: Im from UK, you?
Jul 16 16:16:43 <jasta> Seattle, was just curious.
Jul 16 16:17:05 <jasta> i keep expecting to run into coworkers on this channel now :)
Jul 16 16:17:16 <jasta> but i wouldnt be able to identify them any other way than by the questions theyre asking :)
Jul 16 16:18:01 <Matt___> lol fair enough, where do you work? (If you dont mind me asking)
Jul 16 16:18:32 <jasta> T-Mobile USA
Jul 16 16:19:34 <Matt___> cool, lucky you getting to play with the g1's nice and early
Jul 16 16:19:51 <BeBoo_> jasta: get me a job? ;p
Jul 16 16:20:48 <Qwell> man I love Google...  jasta: nice title.
Jul 16 16:22:14 <jasta> gotta run, later
Jul 16 16:22:48 <Matt___> byee
Jul 16 16:25:27 <Matt___> right im off, cheers again zhobbs for that bit of help
Jul 16 16:30:44 <whaledawg> Anyone here work on multiple computers?
Jul 16 16:31:09 <whaledawg> I'm trying to bring my workspaces from a linux computer to a windows one and it doesn't like it.
Jul 16 16:39:06 <odites> To develop on Android, I have to use OpenJDK or Sun-jdk?
Jul 16 16:39:41 <whaledawg> I don't think either
Jul 16 16:39:50 <whaledawg> it's the Dalvik JVM
Jul 16 16:40:18 <odites> mmm
Jul 16 16:40:55 <whaledawg> http://developer.android.com/sdk/1.5_r2/installing.html
Jul 16 16:41:04 <whaledawg> That tells you how to get your system up and running
Jul 16 16:41:38 <BeBoo_> anyone know why eclipse cannot resolve java.awt ?
Jul 16 16:41:57 <whaledawg> because awt isn't part of android
Jul 16 16:42:09 <BeBoo_> but it's part of java
Jul 16 16:42:12 <odites> ??
Jul 16 16:42:15 <odites> but if I install eclipse I need OpenJDK or sun-jdk
Jul 16 16:42:24 <BeBoo_> odites: sun.java.com
Jul 16 16:42:29 <BeBoo_> err
Jul 16 16:42:32 <BeBoo_> java.sun.com
Jul 16 16:42:51 <whaledawg> odites: you are correct
Jul 16 16:42:56 <whaledawg> I forgot about that
Jul 16 16:43:08 <odites> BeBoo_, so... sun-jdk?
Jul 16 16:43:15 <BeBoo_> yes
Jul 16 16:43:19 <odites> damn!
Jul 16 16:43:20 <odites> XD
Jul 16 16:43:29 <whaledawg> BeBoo: Android is not full Java
Jul 16 16:43:36 <whaledawg> It's the java language
Jul 16 16:43:49 <whaledawg> but many of the libraries aren't included
Jul 16 16:43:57 <whaledawg> because it uses the Dalvik JVM
Jul 16 16:44:03 <BeBoo_> then how do I use Color() ?
Jul 16 16:44:34 <whaledawg> http://developer.android.com/reference/android/graphics/Color.html
Jul 16 16:44:45 <whaledawg> is that what you want?
Jul 16 16:45:27 <BeBoo_> i see they have their own
Jul 16 16:45:30 <BeBoo_> hmm ok
Jul 16 16:45:41 <ewon> lulz: http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&safe=off&q=inurl:SELECT+inurl:FROM+inurl:WHERE+intitle:phpmyadmin&aq=f&oq=&aqi=
Jul 16 16:46:38 <BeBoo_> ewon: naughty
Jul 16 16:55:54 <delx> Hey
Jul 16 16:55:56 <delx> I'm currently using an ArrayList of strings which are displayed in a ListView. Can I assign an ID for each row?
Jul 16 16:56:36 <delx> Or do I have to create a custom adapter?
Jul 16 17:08:48 <KNY> delx, just use SimpleAdapter
Jul 16 17:16:02 <delx> KNY, thanks for your reply! :)
Jul 16 17:16:55 <delx> KNY, another short question: Have you ever used java objects for the data rows? Could you recommend a ORM system?
Jul 16 17:19:06 <neonfreon> hibernate?
Jul 16 17:20:11 <vol_> odites: strongly recommend that you use eclipse, but you can use any build system as long as you're using sun java
Jul 16 17:27:07 * ewon doesn't use Eclipse, as it doesn't work too well on a Dell Mini 9
Jul 16 17:30:10 <vol_> :P
Jul 16 17:34:59 <Matt> :P back at ya vol
Jul 16 17:40:16 <odites> vol_, with eclipse-jee 3.5 it work :D
Jul 16 17:40:24 <vol_> excellent
Jul 16 17:40:48 <odites> thank you very much!
Jul 16 17:40:49 <odites> :D
Jul 16 17:41:42 <odites> I can die happy now
Jul 16 17:41:44 <odites> xD
Jul 16 17:47:30 <Matt> lol
Jul 16 17:53:05 <_annex_> hi all, I'm using a ListView with ArrayAdapter<String> and I'm noticing the "hit box" where the user can select a list item is only the text of the item not the entire cell
Jul 16 17:53:31 <_annex_> and when they do select an item, only the text gets the orange highlight background, not the entire cell
Jul 16 17:53:32 <_annex_> any ideas?
Jul 16 18:14:10 <jasta> _annex_: yes, your list item layouts are using the wrong diemnsions.
Jul 16 18:14:34 <jasta> the simplest solution is to use a pre-baked layout like android.R.layout.simple_list_item_1 (or the other simple_list_item_* layouts)
Jul 16 18:15:03 <jasta> otherwise, make sure that your list item root view is set width=fill_parent, minHeight=?android:attr/listPreferredItemHeight, height=wrap_content.
Jul 16 18:15:37 <jasta> for a reference, look at android.git.kernel.org (under frameworks/base.git, core/res/res/layout/) and look at some of the list item layouts there.
Jul 16 18:19:41 <_annex_> jasta: thank you!  i was being stupid, you are right, I forgot the width=fill_parent instead of wrap_content
Jul 16 18:23:16 <jasta> _annex_: you probably also forgot minHeight too, didn't you?
Jul 16 18:23:28 <jasta> i'm sick of seeing apps with much-too-small list items.
Jul 16 18:24:06 <_annex_> i'm not using minHeight, I just set the text size to 24
Jul 16 18:25:00 <jasta> _annex_: don't.
Jul 16 18:25:11 <jasta> use minheight, and use android:textAppearance="?android:attr/textAppearanceLarge"
Jul 16 18:25:51 <jasta> as i said -- look at frameworks/base.git, core/res/res/layout for further study.  i assure you, there's plenty you've been doing wrong :)
Jul 16 18:26:08 <_annex_> oh interesting
Jul 16 18:27:35 <jasta> it is very unwise to ever hardcode font sizes, text colors, etc.  android provides you themeable alternatives.
Jul 16 18:27:52 <jasta> anything expressed with ?android:attr/foo basically means look up "foo" in the current theme, and use that.
Jul 16 18:28:13 <jasta> doing it this way means google can influence the overall look of the phone through version updates, and your app will follow suit without any changes.
Jul 16 18:28:29 <jasta> likewise, it means you can infleunce the look of your app globally by chanigng your own theme
Jul 16 18:29:57 <romainguy__> jasta: i'm sick of seeing apps with much-too-small list items. << me too
Jul 16 18:30:17 <jasta> romainguy__: i've actually started e-mailing app developers and explaining how ot fix their apps
Jul 16 18:30:30 <jasta> so far, nobody has taken my advice :\
Jul 16 18:30:59 <BeBoo_> jasta: i'll take your advice
Jul 16 18:31:43 <BeBoo_> i have much to learn and i am always open for ideas
Jul 16 18:43:07 <lianj> jasta: like csszengarden.com, in concept :)
Jul 16 18:54:29 <BoomShaka> so, ive created a button in my main layout with id @id+/button_greenplate... how do i now in code, reference that button?
Jul 16 18:54:44 <vol_> R.id.button_greenplate
Jul 16 18:55:05 <BoomShaka> thx vol_
Jul 16 18:55:44 <vol_> you'll do something like (TextView)findViewById(R.id.textfield);
Jul 16 18:56:46 <BoomShaka> final Button button = (Button) findViewById(R.id.button_greenplate);
Jul 16 18:57:04 <BoomShaka> but it says R.id.button_greenplate cannot be resolved
Jul 16 19:00:39 <vol_> refresh your project, look in your R.java file and make sure it's actually there.
Jul 16 19:00:52 <vol_> press ctrl-space after R to help it look for R
Jul 16 19:01:05 <vol_> it should live in your.package.name.R
Jul 16 19:02:02 <BoomShaka> its inside a sub layoutm does tha tmatter?
Jul 16 19:03:21 <BoomShaka> hmm, it doesnt apear in R.java
Jul 16 19:03:28 <BoomShaka> strange. is there a solution for that?
Jul 16 19:07:08 <vol_> is there an error in your xml file?
Jul 16 19:07:23 <vol_> if you pastebin the xml file I can take a look
Jul 16 19:07:37 <vol_> double check that you saved the xml file, then press F5 on your project to refresh it
Jul 16 19:07:43 <vol_> that should force the R file to be regenerated
Jul 16 19:08:38 <BoomShaka> lemme check
Jul 16 19:09:17 <kiqyou_vf> Does anyone here have T-Mobile?
Jul 16 19:09:25 <neonfreon> i do
Jul 16 19:09:26 <BoomShaka> eeeep! didnt spot xml error: ERROR Error: No resource found that matches the given name (at 'id' with value '@id+/button_greenplate').
Jul 16 19:09:28 <BeBoo_> i do
Jul 16 19:09:42 <BoomShaka> <Button android:id="@id+/button_greenplate"
Jul 16 19:09:47 <BeBoo_> i thought it was @+id
Jul 16 19:09:49 <kiqyou_vf> do you mind if i om you?
Jul 16 19:09:53 <kiqyou_vf> pm
Jul 16 19:10:04 <BoomShaka> BeBoo_, thanks i guess it is:)
Jul 16 19:10:11 <BeBoo_> kiqyou_vf: go for it
Jul 16 19:10:42 <BoomShaka> whats the command to write to the console?
Jul 16 19:10:58 <BeBoo_> Log.d(TAG,"blah");
Jul 16 19:11:13 <BeBoo_> thats what i use anyway
Jul 16 19:11:18 <vol_> kiqyou_vf: yes
Jul 16 19:11:29 <vol_> BoomShaka: use the Log class
Jul 16 19:11:33 <vol_> like beboo said
Jul 16 19:12:42 <BeBoo_> BoomShaka: it would output to LogCat, not Console
Jul 16 19:13:48 <BoomShaka> ok, thx guys
Jul 16 19:15:31 <fangus> for locationmanager
Jul 16 19:15:33 <fangus> does it automatically
Jul 16 19:15:36 <fangus> use the best provider?
Jul 16 19:16:30 <herrioj1> why is it that the g1 supports rotation of the home screen and the magic doesn't?
Jul 16 19:17:15 <BeBoo_> i turned off the auto rotation... it started to bug me
Jul 16 19:17:22 <BeBoo_> i would put it on the table and it would freak out
Jul 16 19:18:46 <BeBoo_> so, i'm using the ADT plugin in eclipse... it updated some of it's plugins and now the android stuff isn't working right (the layout editor, manifest editor, etc)
Jul 16 19:21:18 <BeBoo_> if i open anything with one of the editors, it jsut opens a tab with nothing in it
Jul 16 19:27:04 <vol_> BeBoo_: strange
Jul 16 19:28:16 <BeBoo_> it used to give me errors which i kept wanting to come in and ask but now it doesn't even error
Jul 16 19:28:23 <BeBoo_> i tried uninstalling and reinstalling
Jul 16 19:28:28 <BeBoo_> the android adt
Jul 16 20:02:17 <_annex_> is there a way to turn off network access in the emulator?
Jul 16 20:02:43 <_annex_> i'm trying to simulate errors in my app
Jul 16 20:04:45 <BeBoo_> _annex_: airplane mode
Jul 16 20:07:03 <_annex_> BeBoo_: hmm.. i turned on Airplane Mode, and see the airplane icon in the status bar, but my app is still getting network data
Jul 16 20:08:01 <jasta> _annex_: i use iptables for this sort of testing...
Jul 16 20:08:31 <jasta> airplane mode on the emulator triggers all the usual "network is gone" type events in Android, but the actual network system does remain operational
Jul 16 20:08:45 <jasta> so, if you use iptables to shut down access from the emulator to the network, then it really is off :)
Jul 16 20:09:12 <jasta> i often tested with iptables and just abruprtly dropping packets to a host i was communicating with to test my app for blocking issues
Jul 16 20:09:34 <jasta> it's a better test than airplane mode anyway because it doesn't broadcast that the network is gone -- it just leaves.
Jul 16 20:09:52 <jasta> which is what happens when you're on EDGE or 3G and your signal is very weak but not quite yet gone
Jul 16 20:10:09 <_annex_> yup, exactly what I'm trying to test
Jul 16 20:10:09 <jasta> or its switching between EDGE and 3G (you'll see a lengthy suspension of network operations)
Jul 16 20:10:18 <_annex_> thanks i'll try that
Jul 16 20:10:39 <BeBoo_> jasta: airplaine mode worked fine for my testing
Jul 16 20:10:48 <jasta> ...did it? :)
Jul 16 20:11:00 <jasta> re-read my last 3 sentences ;)
Jul 16 20:11:28 <BeBoo_> well, i'm a winblows user so i don't have iptables ;p
Jul 16 20:11:44 <jasta> i'm genuinely surprised when i meet developers who still use Windows :)
Jul 16 20:11:57 <BeBoo_> well, i'm more of a gamer than a developer
Jul 16 20:11:57 <vol_> yank your network cable.
Jul 16 20:12:03 <BeBoo_> vol_: that works too
Jul 16 20:12:05 <cjb> especially Windows developers for phones that run Linux
Jul 16 20:12:30 <vol_> tbh unless you need to know about the linux underpinnings because you're doing native code or something, you don't really need to worry about it
Jul 16 20:12:44 <vol_> it could run MoonOS
Jul 16 20:12:54 <jasta> i was merely surprised that the personality of a developer would prefer Windows
Jul 16 20:12:58 <jasta> thats all.
Jul 16 20:12:59 <BeBoo_> i would use linux in a heartbeat, trust me... i love linux... but i play games more than i code...
Jul 16 20:13:13 <jasta> BeBoo_: i didn't meant to start a flamewar.
Jul 16 20:13:22 <vol_> oh burn!
Jul 16 20:13:33 <jasta> nor did i suggest that Linux was the superior alternative -- you did :)
Jul 16 20:13:44 * BeBoo_ rolls his eyes
Jul 16 20:26:56 <Penguin__> ugh is there a way to set tab style by it self?
Jul 16 20:27:00 <Penguin__> black tabs white layout
Jul 16 20:29:10 <BeBoo_> quick regex question... if i want to match a \, i use \\, correct?
Jul 16 20:29:26 <cjb> yes
Jul 16 20:29:31 <BeBoo_> i'm getting an exception then
Jul 16 20:29:50 <BeBoo_> bad escape sequence
Jul 16 20:30:10 <BeBoo_> noHTMLString = noHTMLString.replaceAll("\\", "");
Jul 16 20:30:21 <BeBoo_> i want to remove all the \
Jul 16 20:32:54 <BeBoo_> it's 4 \ to match one
Jul 16 20:36:28 <romainguy_> that's correct
Jul 16 20:36:34 <romainguy_> you need \\ in the regex
Jul 16 20:36:40 <romainguy_> so in the Java string you need to double each \
Jul 16 20:37:32 <BeBoo_> this page has good pointers =] http://www.regular-expressions.info/java.html
Jul 16 20:39:14 <vol_> haha
Jul 16 20:39:16 <vol_> welcome to java regex
Jul 16 20:39:18 <vol_> \\\\ for \
Jul 16 20:40:20 <cjb> crazy.
Jul 16 20:42:38 <BeBoo_> hrm... i restored my g1 and after setting usb debugging on, adb doesn't see it
Jul 16 20:44:16 <vol_> BeBoo_: lunix or windows
Jul 16 20:44:24 <BeBoo_> windoze
Jul 16 20:44:29 <BeBoo_> windows*
Jul 16 20:44:56 <BeBoo_> not in device manager either... no USB icon in notication tray on g1 either
Jul 16 20:47:16 <BeBoo_> imma reboot my comp and see if it's that... back in a bit
Jul 16 20:47:21 <jasta> Penguin__: yes -- specify the dark theme for the TabActivity, white theme for activities started for content
Jul 16 20:47:54 <_annex_> http://www.speedtest.net/result/518932547.png
Jul 16 20:48:09 <_annex_> i can't believe my upstream almost doubled my down
Jul 16 20:48:28 <AakashPatel> o.O
Jul 16 20:48:30 <AakashPatel> damn
Jul 16 20:48:32 <AakashPatel> i get 10/1
Jul 16 20:48:43 <Penguin__> Thanks I figured that trick out a few minutes ago :)
Jul 16 21:36:04 <BeBoo_> ok, got the error when opening an android editor in eclipse...
Jul 16 21:38:08 <BeBoo_> http://pastebin.com/d29bb7a7e
Jul 16 21:39:44 <BeBoo_> maybe its this one: http://pastebin.com/me26380f
Jul 16 22:09:59 <fangus> is there anyway
Jul 16 22:10:03 <fangus> i can make a preference view
Jul 16 22:10:07 <fangus> where one of hte preferences
Jul 16 22:10:08 <fangus> isn't just text?
Jul 16 22:10:17 <fangus> it's like a sliding bar
Jul 16 22:15:11 <KNY> fangus, this is IRC; you don't need to write haikus
Jul 16 22:16:25 <fangus> srry
Jul 16 22:16:38 <The-Compiler> :D
Jul 16 22:16:45 <fangus> is there anyway i can make a preference view where one of hte preferences is a slider?
Jul 16 22:17:36 <KNY> I assume you could extend Preference and make one
Jul 16 22:18:31 <jasta> KNY: yes, you can.
Jul 16 22:18:50 <jasta> but i caution this UI.  it is best to popup a slider dialog
Jul 16 22:18:52 <jasta> as google does
Jul 16 22:19:12 <jasta> a small slider built into the row of a list is insane and stupid
Jul 16 22:19:20 <KNY> haha, well put
Jul 16 22:19:40 <fangus> yea popup
Jul 16 22:19:49 <fangus> like when i clikc ona preference
Jul 16 22:19:57 <fangus> then a slider coems up
Jul 16 22:20:03 <jasta> look at the Settings app source code -- they do this many places.
Jul 16 22:22:56 <BeBoo_> I have a gridview with imageviews inside (using api demo). How do i catch which imageview was tapped?
Jul 16 22:24:08 <_annex_> onclicklistener
Jul 16 22:24:33 <BeBoo_> ty
Jul 16 22:24:36 <_annex_> or OnItemClickListener rather
Jul 16 22:25:08 <jasta> yes, the latter.
Jul 16 22:25:35 <BeBoo_> ty
Jul 16 22:33:14 <Spyrorocks> Im looking at the android dev site, but can't seem to find any info on network communications (like submitting http requests and such
Jul 16 22:33:25 <Spyrorocks> could anyone point me in the right direction for that?
Jul 16 22:33:56 <KNY> HttpClient
Jul 16 22:33:58 <KNY> and/or URL
Jul 16 22:34:25 <Spyrorocks> is that on the android site?
Jul 16 22:34:50 <KNY> URL is
Jul 16 22:34:53 <KNY> HttpClient might be
Jul 16 22:37:38 <Spyrorocks> what section is that under... Im looking under "Framework topics" at http://developer.android.com/guide/index.html but cant seem to find it...
Jul 16 22:38:05 <KNY> just search the references
Jul 16 22:38:13 <BeBoo_> Spyrorocks: here's a tutorial on URLConnection: http://www.anddev.org/getting_data_from_the_web_urlconnection_via_http-t351.html
Jul 16 22:38:16 <KNY> you could also hit Google
Jul 16 22:38:25 <Spyrorocks> Thanks
Jul 16 22:38:26 <Spyrorocks> :D
Jul 16 22:51:34 <Ostebaro1en> Hello guys, I am making a simple dice roller application just to get the SDK to know, but I am having a bit of trouble finding head and tail in these views and stuff. Basically I have made a Dice class that handles the calculation of the dices. But now I want to add a button to my view and maybe an image of a dice depending on what the result is. Where do I start?
Jul 16 22:53:30 <BeBoo_> Ostebaro1en: have you looked at the API Demos?
Jul 16 22:54:11 <Ostebaronen> Yeah I've looked a lot at them
Jul 16 22:54:46 <KNY> Ostebaronen, have you gone through the NotePad tutorial?
Jul 16 22:54:54 <Ostebaronen> Uhm, no I havent
Jul 16 22:55:12 <Ostebaronen> looking at developer.android.com
Jul 16 22:55:33 <BeBoo_> http://developer.android.com/guide/tutorials/notepad/index.html
Jul 16 22:55:33 <Ostebaronen> and a lot of that code there seems to be a lot far away from what I am used to
Jul 16 22:56:23 <BeBoo_> follow that tutorial... it'll give you a good understanding of how views works with android. it definately helped me get going
Jul 16 22:57:49 <Ostebaronen> BeBoo_, thank you - I will try
Jul 16 23:09:25 <digitalspaghetti> is there any examples of doing sensor stuff the new way?  I can only find examples implementing SensorListener but that seems to be depricated
Jul 16 23:11:15 <herrioj1> by the way, are there any plans for dependency lists for application downloads?
Jul 16 23:11:28 <BeBoo_> lol i just caused an OutOfMemoryError
Jul 16 23:11:38 <digitalspaghetti> ahh, sensorEventListener instead
Jul 16 23:14:21 <BeBoo_> 07-16 19:11:01.108: ERROR/dalvikvm-heap(472): 101400-byte external allocation too large for this process.
Jul 16 23:17:55 <herrioj1> BeBoo_: what are you doing?
Jul 16 23:19:02 <herrioj1> brb
Jul 16 23:19:09 <BeBoo_> herrioj1: playing with remote images in a grid view
Jul 16 23:19:33 <BeBoo_> bah
Jul 16 23:33:16 <titefuzz> Do I have to create a whole new list activity class just so i can make a contextmenu on the listview?
Jul 16 23:33:28 <_annex_> no
Jul 16 23:33:42 <titefuzz> well i have tried doing listivew.setoncontextmenulistener
Jul 16 23:33:49 <titefuzz> and then registercontextmenu
Jul 16 23:33:57 <titefuzz> but oncreatetextmenu never gets called
Jul 16 23:34:04 <titefuzz> so it nevers creates my menu :(
Jul 16 23:34:58 <_annex_> did you registerForContextMenu?
Jul 16 23:35:11 <titefuzz> [19:33] <titefuzz> and then registercontextmenu
Jul 16 23:35:13 <titefuzz> yeah :(
Jul 16 23:35:14 <frez> you should just call onCreateContextMenu in the ListActivity class?
Jul 16 23:35:22 <_annex_> oh oops didn't see that
Jul 16 23:36:23 <titefuzz> i dont want to create a new class, i want to do it dynamically
Jul 16 23:36:41 <_annex_> is your activity a ListActivity?
Jul 16 23:37:31 <_annex_> not sure if it makes much difference, you can try just overloading onCreateContextMenu instead of the listener
Jul 16 23:37:41 <titefuzz> nah its a normal activity
Jul 16 23:37:53 <_annex_> you can still try onCreateContextMenu overload
Jul 16 23:38:08 <BeBoo_> you have to override onCreateContextmenu
Jul 16 23:38:09 <BeBoo_> sec
Jul 16 23:38:32 <frez> @override onCreateContextMenu
Jul 16 23:39:16 <titefuzz> http://pastebin.com/d7d9dd316
Jul 16 23:39:30 <titefuzz> thats in my oncreate method
Jul 16 23:39:34 <titefuzz> of my main activity class
Jul 16 23:40:00 <BeBoo_> titefuzz: http://paste2.org/p/329236
Jul 16 23:40:03 <BeBoo_> thats what i use
Jul 16 23:40:10 <_annex_> not sure why your listener isn't working, but override the Activity's onCreateContextMenu
Jul 16 23:40:23 <_annex_> instead of registering a listener to the view
Jul 16 23:40:55 <titefuzz> yeah, i am overriding it
Jul 16 23:41:06 <titefuzz> BeBoo_
Jul 16 23:41:10 <titefuzz> what does the inflater do?
Jul 16 23:41:15 <BeBoo_> inflates from xml
Jul 16 23:41:19 <titefuzz> oh
Jul 16 23:41:32 <titefuzz> omg
Jul 16 23:41:44 <titefuzz> so
Jul 16 23:41:44 <BeBoo_> heres my xml: http://paste2.org/p/329239
Jul 16 23:41:47 <titefuzz> next question
Jul 16 23:42:07 <titefuzz> so
Jul 16 23:42:15 <titefuzz> hmmm
Jul 16 23:42:52 <titefuzz> android.R.id and R.id
Jul 16 23:42:59 <titefuzz> I just realized these are different this morning
Jul 16 23:43:05 <BeBoo_> yes
Jul 16 23:43:14 <titefuzz> or actually last night
Jul 16 23:43:16 <BeBoo_> R.id.* is your package, android.R.id.* is the android package
Jul 16 23:51:06 <keny> hi
Jul 16 23:51:30 <BeBoo_> if i want to put a bitmap in an intent, i would probably need to convert it to bytes[] ?
Jul 16 23:51:33 <BeBoo_> hi keny
Jul 16 23:51:46 <KNY> BeBoo_, you shouldn't put a bitmap in an intnet
Jul 16 23:51:48 <KNY> intent*
Jul 16 23:51:54 <KNY> you should pass a URI to the bitmap
Jul 16 23:52:16 <keny> quick question, how does the method "onListItemClick (ListView l, View v, int position, long id)" know which rowid to use? does it automatically detect the primary keys in case of having used a cursoradapter ?
Jul 16 23:52:24 <BeBoo_> but what if the bitmap is only a temp bitmap (downloaded)
Jul 16 23:52:30 <keny> im referring to the "long id" argument
Jul 16 23:52:43 <KNY> keny, if you use a CursorAdapter I believe it uses the _ID field
Jul 16 23:53:07 <KNY> BeBoo_, cache it somewhere? :) you *can* do it, but you shouldn't
Jul 16 23:53:13 <KNY> especially if it's a big bitmap
Jul 16 23:53:43 <BeBoo_> KNY: thats my problem... i'm trying to include the images that are part of the urban dictionary pages... for example, the def for dog has 82 images
Jul 16 23:53:55 <BeBoo_> caching 82 images isn't a good idea... at least imho
Jul 16 23:54:08 <KNY> why not?
Jul 16 23:54:16 <KNY> you could just write them into a cache folder on the SD card
Jul 16 23:55:00 <KNY> BeBoo_, or have an images activity which lets you flip through them like the site does
Jul 16 23:55:26 <BeBoo_> i suppose i could... unless i'm going about all of this the wrong way... i am downloading the images and putting them into a gridview... when they tap the image, i was going to have it spawn a new activity to actually _view_ the image... should I do it differently, maybe?
Jul 16 23:55:36 <BeBoo_> KNY: good idea
Jul 16 23:55:48 <BeBoo_> now to figure out how to do that...
Jul 16 23:57:13 <keny> KNY, thanks.
Jul 17 00:00:32 <_annex_> there's already a system cache dir
Jul 17 00:00:48 <_annex_> which you can use to dump things into, and the system will clean it up itself if it needs space
Jul 17 00:01:16 <_annex_> Context.getCacheDir()
Jul 17 00:02:27 <Spyrorocks> hmmm what do I invoke for the user to browse for a file on their image gallery?
Jul 17 00:03:46 <titefuzz> hmmz
Jul 17 00:04:06 <titefuzz> BeBoo_, that code is part of an activity class?
Jul 17 00:04:40 <_annex_> research  android.provider.MediaStore.Images.Media
Jul 17 00:05:39 <Spyrorocks> thanks
Jul 17 00:06:39 <BeBoo_> titefuzz: the first part is under onCreate()
Jul 17 00:06:46 <BeBoo_> the second part it it's own method
Jul 17 00:06:52 <BeBoo_> is*
Jul 17 00:12:54 <Spyrorocks> woah
Jul 17 00:13:02 <titefuzz> thank god
Jul 17 00:13:06 <titefuzz> i was hoping someone else was seeing this
Jul 17 00:13:15 <Spyrorocks> netsplit
Jul 17 00:14:16 <Spyrorocks> Hmmm... eclipse doesn't seem to be recognizing the "SELECT_IMAGE" constant... does a SELECT_IMAGE constant exist in any of the libraries?
Jul 17 00:15:50 <meanburrito920_> ride the 'split :)
Jul 17 00:18:41 <aunn> I am using onReceive method of BroadcastReceiver to capture the intent from Context.sendBroadcast(intent), the thing is that onReceive gets called two times because I have use the <receiver> tag in the XML and according to the API doc, the receiver  obj gets killed and re-instiantiated again. in the process, it calls onReceive, thus onReceive gets called two times ( http://pastebin.com/m5b4c0a70 ActivityThread.java handleRece
Jul 17 00:18:41 <aunn> how can I avoid onReceive being called two times?
Jul 17 00:21:32 <BeBoo_> I am playing with the ImageSwitcher that uses a gallery. Is there a way to set the bitmap of the ImageSwitcher to the bitmap selected on the gallery? ImageSwitcher only seems to want an int
Jul 17 00:25:34 <BeBoo_> i'll just cache it
Jul 17 00:28:57 <titefuzz> :(
Jul 17 00:29:13 <titefuzz> i keep getting errors now, but the exception details are null
Jul 17 00:29:43 <titefuzz> wont let me do list.setoncontextmenulistener
Jul 17 00:29:53 <BeBoo_> what is the error?
Jul 17 00:30:42 <titefuzz> nothing
Jul 17 00:30:43 <titefuzz> its null
Jul 17 00:32:04 <b0nn> titefuzz: what does logcat say\
Jul 17 00:32:29 <titefuzz> nothing....
Jul 17 00:32:35 <titefuzz> i catch the error
Jul 17 00:32:40 <titefuzz> and display the message
Jul 17 00:32:41 <titefuzz> its null
Jul 17 00:33:59 <titefuzz> so
Jul 17 00:34:02 <titefuzz> i guess doing this
Jul 17 00:34:15 <titefuzz> ListView list = (ListView)findViewById(android.R.id.list);
Jul 17 00:34:16 <titefuzz> 			
Jul 17 00:34:16 <titefuzz> 			list.setOnCreateContextMenuListener(new OnCreateContextMenuListener()
Jul 17 00:34:22 <titefuzz> list is coming up to be null
Jul 17 00:40:12 <BeBoo_> titefuzz: do you have a list in your layout? you cant use android.R.id.list
Jul 17 00:40:37 <BeBoo_> is there a way to grab the ImageView in an ImageSwitcher?
Jul 17 00:41:35 <titefuzz> yes i do
Jul 17 00:41:43 <titefuzz> i though maybe i needed to use android.r instead
Jul 17 00:41:48 <titefuzz> thought*
Jul 17 00:42:27 <BeBoo_> you need the id of the list in your layout
Jul 17 00:42:38 <titefuzz> yeah, thats what i had before
Jul 17 00:42:42 <titefuzz> but nothing ever happens
Jul 17 00:49:36 <titefuzz> i cant believe this..
Jul 17 00:49:41 <titefuzz> i have code exactly like urs
Jul 17 00:49:54 <titefuzz> and exactly like a bunch of tutorials on the web
Jul 17 00:49:56 <titefuzz> and nothing
Jul 17 00:50:07 <BeBoo_> can you pastebin your code?
Jul 17 00:51:36 <titefuzz> http://paste2.org/p/329273
Jul 17 00:52:43 <titefuzz> my next question
Jul 17 00:53:00 <titefuzz> is maybe im testing it wrong in the emulator?
Jul 17 00:55:55 <BeBoo_> titefuzz: just click and hold on the list item
Jul 17 00:56:16 <titefuzz> yeah then its definitely not working :(
Jul 17 00:56:37 <BeBoo_> when do you get the exception? when clicking and holding or on load?
Jul 17 00:57:06 <titefuzz> now i dont get any, because i changed the id to the id of my list in my main.xml
Jul 17 00:57:23 <titefuzz> it just never creates the menu...
Jul 17 00:59:43 <BeBoo_> i think i had issues with that too and when i moved to the inflater, it worked
Jul 17 00:59:59 <BeBoo_> i can't remember
Jul 17 01:01:15 <BeBoo_> KNY: what should I look up regarding caching images and getting the URI for them?
Jul 17 01:01:52 <titefuzz> well, ill try it, the problem is the oncreatecontextmenu method is never called
Jul 17 01:02:04 <BeBoo_> it's created when you press and hold
Jul 17 01:02:06 <titefuzz> i have a log statemment in there which should show up in log cat, but it doesnt
Jul 17 01:02:13 <BeBoo_> right before the menu displays is when it's created
Jul 17 01:03:45 <KNY> BeBoo_, just write them to disk and pass the path
Jul 17 01:04:25 <BeBoo_> but how ;p what method or class should i look up?
Jul 17 01:04:59 <BeBoo_> KNY: fileOutputStream?
Jul 17 01:05:33 <titefuzz> do i have to setonclicklistener as well?
Jul 17 01:06:41 <BeBoo_> titefuzz: not unless you want something to happen when they tap instead of long press
Jul 17 01:06:55 <titefuzz> nah i just want my menu to work
Jul 17 01:09:40 <titefuzz> i guess ill try creating a whole new listactivity class
Jul 17 01:10:10 <KNY> BeBoo_, to write them to disk? yeah
Jul 17 01:12:22 <BeBoo_> ok, but it says it will output it to /data/data/pkg.name/files/... how can i use the system's cache or a spot on the SD card?
Jul 17 01:14:17 <BeBoo_> i would rather use a spot on the SD card as I don't want to fill up the device memory
Jul 17 01:14:32 <BeBoo_> and clean them up when the activity is killed or whatever
Jul 17 01:33:36 <titefuzz> sheesh
Jul 17 01:33:54 <titefuzz> now i have an error but the file that theres an error in isnt reporting an error...
Jul 17 01:45:16 <titefuzz> whats the link to publish an app?
Jul 17 01:45:20 <titefuzz> i always forget it
Jul 17 01:45:35 <BeBoo_> http://market.android.com/publish
Jul 17 01:46:17 <BeBoo_> 16 active installs (61%) << i need to get my app's name out there more ;p
Jul 17 01:47:15 <titefuzz> is there a way to publish an app but not let everyone see it?
Jul 17 01:47:26 <neonfreon> host it on your own site?!
Jul 17 02:05:56 <BeBoo_> is there a way to delete all the files saved in a folder that was created with mkdirs and fileoutputstream
Jul 17 02:25:17 <b0nn> If I receive an SMS, how do I tie that message to an android.telephony.gsm.SmsMessage object?
Jul 17 02:25:20 <b0nn> or
Jul 17 02:25:33 <b0nn> how do i get passed that instance of that message?
Jul 17 02:35:40 <BeBoo_> KNY: i did it =] I have it download the images to the sdcard for loading into gallery and imageswitcher via URI then i overrode the onDestroy() to delete the files.
Jul 17 02:45:06 <KNY> BeBoo_, why not just keep them cached and have an option somewhere to clear the cache?
Jul 17 02:45:13 <KNY> BeBoo_, that's just a waste of bandwidth otherwise
Jul 17 02:50:08 <BeBoo_> KNY: because 9/10 they will never ever look at those pictures again and i don't want to waste space on their SD card
Jul 17 02:50:21 <KNY> BeBoo_, fair enough
Jul 17 02:50:33 <BeBoo_> thats a good idea tho
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