**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Sat Jul 18 02:59:56 2009
Jul 18 03:42:52 <Lazz> Hello
Jul 18 03:42:56 <licksjp> Hello
Jul 18 03:43:01 <Lazz> I think I'm bricked :(
Jul 18 03:43:12 <Lazz> G1 logo gets stuck loading
Jul 18 03:43:47 <Lazz> i can get to the bootloader, is there anyway to bring the phone back
Jul 18 03:44:51 <romainguy> if you have the bootloader, you're not bricked :)
Jul 18 03:45:26 <Lazz> but im stuck @ fastboot since i dont have any recovery images :(
Jul 18 03:46:06 <Lazz> has anyone uploaded any images to bring my phone back :)
Jul 18 03:49:51 <Lazz> so you guys have any clue on fixing the g1 stuck loading?
Jul 18 04:06:25 <kRutOn> a
Jul 18 04:06:42 <kRutOn> whoops, errant keypress.
Jul 18 04:18:04 <Lazz> anybody know where i can get a system.img file
Jul 18 04:25:49 <kRutOn> for what? emulator?
Jul 18 04:26:07 <Lazz> for an actual g1
Jul 18 06:10:23 <jasta> ohh neat, github
Jul 18 10:08:11 <danielw_> Anyone had any trouble with view groups no rendering in custom view groups?
Jul 18 10:08:39 <danielw_> im calling the layout method on the child viewgroup, is there something else I need to call in order for it to render its children?
Jul 18 10:48:46 <ccmas> Hi, when using sensors, which one gives faster updates? SENSOR_DELAY_NORMAL or SENSOR_DELAY_GUI? The value SENSOR_DELAY_NORMAL is always listed before SENSOR_DELAY_GUI, but that is actually only due to alphabetic sorting. From the const value SENSOR_DELAY_NORMAL should give slower updates than SENSOR_DELAY_GUI. Does anyone know about this?
Jul 18 11:11:35 <wmealing1> zug,
Jul 18 11:19:28 <wmealing1> where can one gt the latest "superuser" app
Jul 18 11:20:52 <wmealing1> mine mentions its from zenthought.org
Jul 18 11:21:00 <wmealing1> although, can't see anything there
Jul 18 11:25:50 <VavaR> how to interface the phone with a computer ? how much can i customize of android ? are there locked parts ?
Jul 18 11:30:11 <wmealing1> plenty of ways, and "locked" just depends on how dedicated you are.
Jul 18 11:41:40 <nazguul81> hi guys
Jul 18 11:42:17 <wmealing1> morn
Jul 18 11:42:24 * wmealing1 cusses things.
Jul 18 11:42:57 <wmealing1> i'm almost sure used to be able to remove things from the phone via application settings
Jul 18 11:43:31 <nazguul81> i want to create a button that works like a radio button but looks like a standard button. i now made a childclass of radiobutton and created a member in there holding a button which i want to draw to the canvas in onDraw(), firest of all it doesnt work, i dont see a thing, second: i guess there's an easier way ?
Jul 18 11:44:21 <nazguul81> maybe i can somehow set the default button drawables instead of the radiobutton drawable ?
Jul 18 11:45:25 <wmealing1> ah, just superuser permissions
Jul 18 11:53:35 <dandroid> hi everyone
Jul 18 11:53:47 <dandroid> I have a question
Jul 18 11:54:04 <dandroid> what is the best email client to use in an android app?
Jul 18 11:56:37 <dandroid> ok, nobody on this channel?
Jul 18 11:57:06 <dandroid> can anybody tell me if they see my msgs or not?
Jul 18 11:58:02 <wmealing1> can see
Jul 18 11:58:09 <wmealing1> i use k9 and the google built in
Jul 18 11:58:11 <wmealing1> dont know if its the best
Jul 18 11:58:14 <wmealing1> because.. i've not used them all
Jul 18 11:59:56 <dandroid> i tried k9 on windows but somehow i cannot get to build it (from eclipse)
Jul 18 12:00:38 <dandroid> what svn client are you using?
Jul 18 12:00:48 <wmealing1> whatever subversion is on linux
Jul 18 12:01:09 <wmealing1> URL         : http://subversion.tigris.org/
Jul 18 12:01:20 * wmealing1 doesn't run windows, so cant help you.
Jul 18 12:02:22 <wmealing1> on another note, my su keeps hanging for reasons unknown
Jul 18 12:03:04 <dandroid> ok man, thanks a lot
Jul 18 12:03:11 <wmealing1> im on cyanogen, thinking i might got back to jf's build
Jul 18 12:04:35 <dandroid> is that a channel?
Jul 18 12:05:50 <dandroid> my bad, it's a release
Jul 18 12:05:51 <dandroid> :))
Jul 18 12:06:47 <wmealing1> yeah.
Jul 18 12:07:30 <wmealing1> can anyone reccomend me a rom where su works ?
Jul 18 12:08:30 <wmealing1> ie, the app doesnt hang mid way through
Jul 18 12:10:15 <wmealing1> for dream, g1 adp
Jul 18 13:13:20 <Queue29> wmealing1: cyanogen's rom is good
Jul 18 13:13:42 <wmealing1> Queue29: can you see if you have a tun.ko
Jul 18 13:15:29 <Queue29> where would it be?
Jul 18 13:15:41 <wmealing1> somewhere in /system/ i'm guessing
Jul 18 13:15:46 <wmealing1> system/modules/
Jul 18 13:15:50 <wmealing1> at a _guess_
Jul 18 13:17:48 <Queue29> nothing in the system tree
Jul 18 13:17:52 <wmealing1> ok
Jul 18 13:17:58 <wmealing1> thanks, doesnt look like he does then
Jul 18 13:18:09 <wmealing1> i had an older build
Jul 18 13:35:15 <wmealing1> woohoo its down, now to try it
Jul 18 13:46:04 <D-32> hey guys, need some help, i've managed to create a user input (text), but how can i save that input-text into a variable? tried many diffrent things, just never works, how do u normaly do that?
Jul 18 13:49:28 <Q_> D-32: something like String str = someTextField.getText();
Jul 18 13:50:10 <dandroid> hey guys, i am trying to build k9 in eclipse, and i get a really stupid error "R cannot be resolved". Any ideas?
Jul 18 13:50:24 <D-32> my textfield, is named in the xml with the id "entry"
Jul 18 13:50:24 <D-32> so something like "String input = entry.getText();"
Jul 18 13:50:24 <D-32> should do it?
Jul 18 13:50:41 <dandroid> i googled it, applied all kinds of building configurations, still no luck
Jul 18 13:51:38 <Q_> first make a TextView (or whatever) and assign it like:
Jul 18 13:51:51 <Q_> TextView tv = findViewById(R.id.entry)
Jul 18 13:52:00 <Q_> then ... tv.getText()
Jul 18 13:53:01 <D-32> "Type mismatch: cannot convert from String to TextView"
Jul 18 13:53:03 <D-32> mhh
Jul 18 13:54:14 <Q_> what's your code?
Jul 18 13:54:20 <dandroid> TextView tv = (TextView) findViewById(R.id.entry)
Jul 18 13:54:26 <D-32> TextView tv = findViewById(R.id.entry);
Jul 18 13:54:29 <D-32> ah
Jul 18 13:54:48 <Q_> yea the cast needs to be in there
Jul 18 13:55:03 <D-32> "Cannot cast from String to TextView"
Jul 18 13:55:07 <dandroid> so, nobody ever got "R cannot be resolved"?
Jul 18 13:55:11 <dandroid> so, nobody ever got "R cannot be resolved"?
Jul 18 13:55:17 <Q_> dandroid: restart eclipse
Jul 18 13:55:26 <dandroid> did it several times
Jul 18 13:56:07 <Q_> i dunno.. you need to provoke it to rebuild the project somehow
Jul 18 13:56:19 <keny> hi
Jul 18 13:56:21 <Q_> which it doesn't want to do since it thinks there's in error
Jul 18 13:56:29 <Q_> an*
Jul 18 13:56:36 <dandroid> I built it manually
Jul 18 13:56:44 <dandroid> still no luck
Jul 18 13:57:34 <Q_> D-32: can you post more on paste bin?
Jul 18 13:59:02 <D-32> Q: http://pastebin.com/d549da966
Jul 18 13:59:54 <jessica_lilly> when is android going to offically release roms for stuff like HTC phones
Jul 18 14:01:05 <dandroid> D-32 why did u override getviewbyid?
Jul 18 14:01:35 <Queue29> yea it's built in..
Jul 18 14:01:45 <wmealing1> R should be resolved at build time
Jul 18 14:01:59 <wmealing1> make sure you are in the eclipse java perspective when you build.
Jul 18 14:02:25 <wmealing1> failing that, drop to a command line, do ant debug
Jul 18 14:02:28 <wmealing1> or ant reinstall
Jul 18 14:02:30 * wmealing1 shrugs
Jul 18 14:02:39 <Queue29> D-32: just delete the whole findViewById auto generated stub
Jul 18 14:02:57 <D-32> mmh, okay, i had that in a time ago Oo
Jul 18 14:04:04 <dandroid> wmealing1: im under vista
Jul 18 14:04:14 <D-32> Q: what do you mean?
Jul 18 14:05:15 <Queue29> http://pastebin.com/m1568e02f
Jul 18 14:05:40 <keny> http://pastebin.com/d9975692 <- anyone knows why my second TextView won't alight right?
Jul 18 14:06:34 <wmealing1> dandroid: i dont know windows. sorry
Jul 18 14:06:59 <keny> the android:gravity="right" is definitely there
Jul 18 14:07:26 <D-32> yeah, thats what i did, now i get the following error "Type mismatch: cannot convert from CharSequence to String" where i assign sms_cont the tv.getText(), sms_cont should just be a normal string shoudn't it?
Jul 18 14:09:08 <dandroid> wmealing1: i guess since i use eclipse and java i should be able to do the same stuff on windows
Jul 18 14:09:26 <dandroid> wmealing1: i tried the same stuff on ubuntu earlier
Jul 18 14:09:35 <dandroid> wmealing1: still nothing
Jul 18 14:09:41 <dandroid> and its driving me crazy
Jul 18 14:10:42 <Queue29> dandroid: did you try project -> clean ?
Jul 18 14:11:21 <dandroid> Queue29: yes i did
Jul 18 14:12:02 * wmealing1 had it once
Jul 18 14:12:08 <wmealing1> i cant remember what i did to fix it
Jul 18 14:12:14 <wmealing1> i think i had some permissions wrong on a directory, or a file
Jul 18 14:17:01 <D-32> whoot it works :)
Jul 18 14:17:04 <D-32> thansk guys ^^
Jul 18 14:17:11 * D-32 is happy
Jul 18 14:17:43 <keny> allright, figured it out, the TextView had a wrap_content so the alignment did not matter much =D
Jul 18 14:17:58 <dandroid> wmealing1: i remember seeing that solution somewhere, but it didnt say what directories have the wrong permissions
Jul 18 14:18:07 * wmealing1 thinks its gen
Jul 18 14:18:10 <wmealing1> not sure though
Jul 18 14:18:31 <D-32> is there anyway, to launch "finish()", after the page is loaded,or after a set time?
Jul 18 14:18:32 <wmealing1> i'm only remembering this from a late, late late, night hacking exercise.
Jul 18 14:18:46 <D-32> (i already tried thread.sleep and wait, doen't rly work)
Jul 18 14:20:12 <Queue29> if you're calling thread.sleep on the same thread that you're getting the page from, it's just wasting time
Jul 18 14:20:37 <Queue29> but that's not the proper way to do it anyway :)
Jul 18 14:20:45 <D-32> yeah, thats what i thaught
Jul 18 14:20:56 <D-32> i read about something with chrome, and then using progress
Jul 18 14:21:04 <D-32> but looked quit complicated ^^
Jul 18 14:21:27 <D-32> with webview.setProgress or something like that, it didn't work either...
Jul 18 14:22:50 <dandroid> D-32: you want to update a progress bar?
Jul 18 14:23:19 <D-32> not realy :P
Jul 18 14:23:29 <dandroid> D-32:  but?
Jul 18 14:23:42 <D-32> just exit the hole programm when the website with webview is finished loading
Jul 18 14:26:31 <dandroid> the whole program is a bunch of activities
Jul 18 14:26:37 <dandroid> how many do you have?
Jul 18 14:26:44 <D-32> one, i think
Jul 18 14:26:52 <D-32> finish();
Jul 18 14:26:55 <D-32> works fine...
Jul 18 14:27:03 <dandroid> that's it then
Jul 18 14:27:22 <dandroid> if you want to call finish after some time
Jul 18 14:27:27 <dandroid> you have to create a new thread
Jul 18 14:27:30 <D-32> yep, but when i just put it after the loadUrl, i don't think it loads the website compltly
Jul 18 14:28:04 <dandroid> create a new thread
Jul 18 14:28:45 <D-32> mh,. hwo do i do that, with a new class?
Jul 18 14:29:18 <dandroid> and then put in it's run method: mHandler.post(new Runnable() {finish();}
Jul 18 14:29:32 <dandroid> where mHandler = new Handler();
Jul 18 14:29:40 <dandroid> declared before the thread
Jul 18 14:29:44 <dandroid> you have to do some reading
Jul 18 14:29:49 <dandroid> on the web site
Jul 18 14:29:59 <dandroid> about threads and handlers
Jul 18 14:30:14 <D-32> okaay :)
Jul 18 14:36:10 <jeddy3> hmm, i'm trying to make a custom listview row, but as soon as i put a linearlayout around it, it stops being selectable (with orange marker)
Jul 18 14:36:23 <jeddy3> anyone has any idea why?
Jul 18 14:37:44 <jeddy3> or rather is is selectable, but the selection marker disappears
Jul 18 14:47:12 <ccmas> Hi, can I access gui elements like TextView::setText from a non UI thread?
Jul 18 15:18:30 <dandroid> ccmas: yes, as long as you have a reference to the layout you are using
Jul 18 15:18:48 <dandroid> you have to send it somehow to the thread
Jul 18 15:19:06 <dandroid> and then call layout.getViewById()...
Jul 18 15:19:10 <ccmas> dandroid: ok, but what if the gui accesses the View concurrently?
Jul 18 15:19:19 <ccmas> I have a ref to the View item
Jul 18 15:19:20 <dandroid> dont matter
Jul 18 15:19:44 <ccmas> but I have to call postInvalidate or something like this?
Jul 18 15:20:00 <ccmas> as the ui thread will not be aware of the change?
Jul 18 15:21:16 <dandroid> im not sure
Jul 18 15:21:46 <dandroid> i'm a beginner also
Jul 18 15:22:16 <dandroid> seems that this channel dont have a lot of activity
Jul 18 15:22:21 <dandroid> :(
Jul 18 15:22:35 <dandroid> although there are a lot of users
Jul 18 15:22:35 <deus13> :(
Jul 18 15:22:44 <deus13> saturday?
Jul 18 15:22:46 <deus13> :/
Jul 18 15:22:53 <dandroid> i hope so
Jul 18 15:23:08 <dandroid> maybe its the time diff
Jul 18 15:23:20 <dandroid> im in gmt +3
Jul 18 15:23:27 <dandroid> us is 7 hours behind
Jul 18 15:24:15 <deus13> gmt +1
Jul 18 15:24:24 <deus13> for me
Jul 18 15:27:05 <zelrikriando> hello
Jul 18 15:28:08 <dandroid> germany?
Jul 18 15:28:10 <dandroid> :D
Jul 18 15:28:12 <zelrikriando> no
Jul 18 15:28:23 <dandroid> deus13: germany?
Jul 18 15:28:53 <zelrikriando> I have a question
Jul 18 15:29:09 <zelrikriando> can the touchscreen keyboard be considered as a 3rd party application?
Jul 18 15:31:25 <zinx> uhm, it can be if you're using a 3rd party one
Jul 18 15:31:49 <zelrikriando> but how well that would be integrated
Jul 18 15:32:31 <KNY> zelrikriando, http://android-developers.blogspot.com/search/label/Input%20methods
Jul 18 15:33:13 <zelrikriando> ok
Jul 18 15:34:52 <zelrikriando> hmm
Jul 18 15:35:06 <wmealing1> actually, i'm awake but a suck at java
Jul 18 15:35:10 <wmealing1> so.. thats why i'm not answering
Jul 18 15:35:12 <zinx> 3rd party OSKs use exactly the same interfaces as the one by Google
Jul 18 15:35:28 <zinx> so, they can be at least as integrated as the one by google
Jul 18 15:35:39 <zelrikriando> and hmm
Jul 18 15:35:43 <wmealing1> 	ArrayList<String> myArr = new ArrayList<String>();
Jul 18 15:35:43 <wmealing1> 	myArr.add("dog");
Jul 18 15:35:57 <zelrikriando> what about the thing to unlock android
Jul 18 15:36:02 * wmealing1 asks later
Jul 18 15:36:04 <zelrikriando> the pattern drawing stuff
Jul 18 15:36:14 <zinx> i don't think that's as easy to replace
Jul 18 15:36:21 <romainguy> no you cannot replace it
Jul 18 15:36:27 <romainguy> at least not without building your own system image
Jul 18 15:36:30 <zelrikriando> but the source code is out there
Jul 18 15:36:35 <romainguy> and really knowing what you're doing
Jul 18 15:36:35 <wmealing1> you can use it in your own app
Jul 18 15:36:55 <zelrikriando> wmealing1: that's my goal actually
Jul 18 15:37:13 <zelrikriando> using the pattern stuff to replace the keyboard
Jul 18 15:37:23 <zelrikriando> with modifications of course
Jul 18 15:37:37 <wmealing1> zelrikriando: i know what you mean, but i didnt think 9 data points was enough to do so.
Jul 18 15:37:49 <zelrikriando> wmealing1: modifications
Jul 18 15:38:00 <wmealing1> zelrikriando: may as well write your own then :)
Jul 18 15:38:21 <zelrikriando> with 12 data points it will be more than enough
Jul 18 15:38:21 <wmealing1> its not too hard.
Jul 18 15:38:44 <zelrikriando> maybe I ll do 16
Jul 18 15:38:47 <zelrikriando> for comfort
Jul 18 15:38:54 <wmealing1> handwriting recognician ?
Jul 18 15:39:01 <zelrikriando> wmealing1: no
Jul 18 15:39:06 <wmealing1> ah, ArrayList is just java 6 and above.
Jul 18 15:39:12 <zelrikriando> wmealing1: writing using patterns
Jul 18 15:39:30 <zelrikriando> wmealing1: the connection between 2 points will be one letter
Jul 18 15:39:45 <zelrikriando> and continuing the pattern will enable suggestions
Jul 18 15:39:55 <wmealing1> i see
Jul 18 15:40:00 <wmealing1> have you checked out.. dasher ?
Jul 18 15:40:04 <wmealing1> gnome's dasher ?
Jul 18 15:40:07 <zelrikriando> no
Jul 18 15:40:18 <wmealing1> it may be similar to what you want to do
Jul 18 15:40:37 <zelrikriando> ok
Jul 18 15:41:23 <zelrikriando> I am not really a developer
Jul 18 15:41:27 <zelrikriando> but I think I can do that
Jul 18 15:42:33 <zelrikriando> I do think it can be a great input method
Jul 18 15:45:09 <zelrikriando> wow dasher looks weird
Jul 18 15:45:23 <wmealing1> works ok though
Jul 18 15:48:46 <zelrikriando> I need to look at tutorials to develop apps on android
Jul 18 15:54:35 <delx> Hey
Jul 18 15:54:59 <delx> Is it possible to define, that the first character of a TextView should start with an uppercase one?
Jul 18 15:55:43 <delx> ah - just found it - thanks anyway
Jul 18 16:04:27 <delx> jclinton, do you know how to initially set caps mode = true when clicking on an EditText?
Jul 18 16:06:38 <jclinton> delx, nope, sorry
Jul 18 16:07:01 <delx> Does anyone else know this? Though I found the solution but that wasn't the case.
Jul 18 16:17:55 <KNY> delx, look at the inputType attribute
Jul 18 16:18:36 <dandroid> delx: you can use a basic java MessageFormat programatically
Jul 18 16:30:36 <delx> KNY, dandroid, thanks for info - will test it in a few minutes
Jul 18 16:34:19 <wmealing1> this has me stumped a little.. i see someone using the assetmanager class, referring to objects by ID, i dont see them mentioned anywhere in the res tree, however it is in the assets directory.  My sdk doesn't seem to generate the R.id value like it does in their example.. any one have any clues to what i've done wrong ?
Jul 18 16:35:49 <wmealing1> R.id.file1 r.id.file2 ex, but these files are not in the res/ directory.
Jul 18 17:12:40 <tpocra> What is the device name of the gsm modem in the G1/ADP?
Jul 18 17:23:27 <wmealing1> at a guess its rfcomm0 or rfcomm1
Jul 18 17:23:32 <wmealing1> i dont remember, i know its one of them
Jul 18 17:23:56 <wmealing1> is "ln" available on non rooted phone?
Jul 18 17:25:42 <Queue29> i think so
Jul 18 17:26:36 <wmealing1> righto
Jul 18 17:26:42 <D-32> mhh, i managed to read out a textfield earlier, but how can i read out a selection-list thingi?
Jul 18 17:26:58 <D-32> when i do it like "TextView tv = (TextView)findViewById(R.id.spinner);" it crashes...
Jul 18 17:27:12 <wmealing1> you can't cast it that way.
Jul 18 17:27:19 <wmealing1> WINDMILLS DO NOT WORK THAT WAY !
Jul 18 17:27:29 <Queue29> ATTACK THE WINDMILLS!!
Jul 18 17:27:34 <Queue29> wait what?
Jul 18 17:27:35 * wmealing1 charges
Jul 18 17:27:45 <wmealing1> i'm guessing your spinner is not a textview
Jul 18 17:31:09 <D-32> mmh, how can i solve that?
Jul 18 17:33:17 <Queue29> cast to the right kind of object
Jul 18 17:33:49 <Spyrorocks> Umm... is there a reason why the dream would just suddenly reboot itself?
Jul 18 17:34:00 <ewon> watchdog timer?
Jul 18 17:34:27 <Queue29> kernal panic?
Jul 18 17:34:56 <D-32> can i just do a Spinner x = (Spinner)findViewById(R.id.spinner); resc = x.getText();
Jul 18 17:34:57 <D-32> ?
Jul 18 17:35:50 <Queue29> no.. you probably want to get to a text view out of the spinner first
Jul 18 17:36:12 <Spyrorocks> I was sleeping then heard the bootup sound, thought it was the email alert
Jul 18 17:36:23 <Spyrorocks> got up to see the "HTC" splashscreen
Jul 18 17:36:41 <D-32> mmh. TextView tv = (TextView)findViewById(R.id.spinner); <- so that would be correct? Oo
Jul 18 17:36:56 <Queue29> nope
Jul 18 17:36:59 <Spyrorocks> ewon: what is the watchdog timer?
Jul 18 17:37:32 <ewon> Spyrorocks: at a guess, if the kernel gets in a bad state, it will automagically reboot
Jul 18 17:37:38 <ewon> that's just a guess though
Jul 18 17:37:52 <Spyrorocks> ah
Jul 18 17:37:55 <Queue29> TextView tv = ((Spinner)findViewById(R.id.spinner)).someMethodThatGivesATextView()
Jul 18 17:38:06 <Spyrorocks> I thought it could have been like an update or something.
Jul 18 17:38:16 <Spyrorocks> Guess just the phone freaking out :P
Jul 18 17:38:18 <D-32> like getText?
Jul 18 17:38:43 <Queue29> no then you'd call tv.getText()
Jul 18 17:39:11 <D-32> ah okaay
Jul 18 17:39:13 <D-32> mhh
Jul 18 17:40:49 <D-32> toString?
Jul 18 17:42:03 <Queue29> is this the spinner class you are using? http://developer.android.com/reference/android/widget/Spinner.html
Jul 18 17:42:57 <D-32> yep :)
Jul 18 18:23:37 <delx> KNY, inputType is working. Thanks for help! :)
Jul 18 18:46:43 <uptownben> what is dalvik?
Jul 18 18:51:08 <KNY> the android vm
Jul 18 19:46:05 <D-32> mmh, i there a posibility to simulata an sms beeing sent, so that it appears in the normal "sms-chat" but doen't realy get sent?
Jul 18 20:07:45 <the_alien> can someone tell me how i can use multiple layouts in a widget?
Jul 18 20:34:36 <titefuzz> looking for some help creating a context menu on a listview
Jul 18 20:35:56 <titefuzz> http://pastebin.com/d771cff19 << I long click on my list in my emulator but nothing ever happens.
Jul 18 20:37:24 <Queue29> you need a registerForContextMenu() somewhere i think
Jul 18 20:37:38 <titefuzz> yeah its there :(
Jul 18 20:38:00 <Queue29> also, why not just use android.util.Log ?
Jul 18 20:38:26 <titefuzz> well for this app i could
Jul 18 20:38:28 <titefuzz> but
Jul 18 20:38:48 <titefuzz> My AndroidDebugger class logs errors in a database
Jul 18 20:39:11 <Queue29> nifty
Jul 18 20:40:01 <titefuzz> well
Jul 18 20:40:13 <titefuzz> i have been having this problem for a week about..
Jul 18 20:40:22 <titefuzz> everyone tells me the same thing
Jul 18 20:40:25 <titefuzz> but it doesnt work
Jul 18 20:40:47 <Queue29> i wonder if you have to cast the view after findViewById
Jul 18 20:41:01 <the_alien> why would he have to?
Jul 18 20:41:20 <titefuzz> i shouldnt, the method takes a View
Jul 18 20:41:20 <the_alien> dalvikvm should have late-binding too ;)
Jul 18 20:41:24 <titefuzz> although i guess i could try
Jul 18 20:44:22 <delx> I just tried list.setChoiceMode(ListView.CHOICE_MODE_MULTIPLE), but it's not possible to touch a list item and choose/mark/highlight it permanently - am I expecting the wrong behaviour?
Jul 18 20:45:24 <Queue29> delx: sounds more like you want a radio button / checkbox
Jul 18 20:46:07 <delx> Queue29, I've got a huge list of items...i'd like to select more than one and delete them by clicking on the bottom-menu -> "delete" button
Jul 18 20:48:25 <Queue29> delx: you want checkboxes i think..
Jul 18 20:48:29 <kRutOn> titefuzz: hi
Jul 18 20:48:42 <titefuzz> hi kRutOn
Jul 18 20:48:55 <delx> Queue29, they will work, too - but what is choices for?
Jul 18 20:49:07 <kRutOn> titefuzz: So I think what's happening is that activity.registerForContextMenu(target) calls target.setOnCreateContextMenuListener(activity)
Jul 18 20:49:30 <kRutOn> titefuzz: basically blowing away what you had called previously
Jul 18 20:49:46 <titefuzz> so my class has to actually have a onCreateContextMenuListener method?
Jul 18 20:50:17 <kRutOn> yeah, if you read the description of registerForContextMenu...
Jul 18 20:50:36 <titefuzz> i cant believe i have been this silly...
Jul 18 20:50:50 <Poeir> Hey, all.  I note in this documentation: http://developer.android.com/guide/practices/ui_guidelines/activity_task_design.html that there's mentions of re-using an Activity.  How can I re-use the Activity used by the Android app "Music" to pick from Songs/Playlists/etc?
Jul 18 20:58:17 <the_alien> is there a possibility to make a textview transparent?
Jul 18 20:58:37 <titefuzz> kRutOn, it wont let me override the onCreateContextMenuListener method
Jul 18 21:06:06 <delx> Queue29, still here?
Jul 18 21:06:53 <delx> I've got a ListView. I'd like to change the background color permanently when someone clicked on an entry (mark it). I have to listen for the onItemClicked() event, right? But how do I set the bg color?
Jul 18 21:12:22 <kRutOn> titefuzz: why not?
Jul 18 21:47:43 <Fredro> is it possible to use EditText with an AppWidget? I'm thinking of the Google Search widget since it's using one
Jul 18 21:53:31 <romainguy_> Fredro: no it's not possible
Jul 18 21:54:12 <Fredro> romainguy, but how can the widget Google search have it?
Jul 18 21:59:59 <romainguy_> it's not an app widhget
Jul 18 22:00:02 <romainguy_> widget
Jul 18 22:00:09 <romainguy_> it's private to Home
Jul 18 22:00:35 <Fredro> oh ok
Jul 18 22:01:00 <Fredro> so there is no other way of getting user input to an AppWidget then?
Jul 18 22:03:37 <romainguy_> noe
Jul 18 22:03:38 <romainguy_> nope
Jul 18 22:04:00 <Fredro> :/
Jul 18 22:07:13 <the_alien> romainguy: i also guess there is now way of having text scrolled, until i remove the first lines by code?
Jul 18 22:09:03 <the_alien> romainguy_:
Jul 18 22:10:56 <zelrikriando> gahhh the camera is behaving stupid
Jul 18 22:15:45 <the_alien> is there any chance getting the text displayed by a TextView including the linefeeds?
Jul 18 22:17:50 <KNY> \n
Jul 18 22:20:17 <the_alien> KNY: if i add the \n manually
Jul 18 22:20:33 <the_alien> but then i'll have to know how many chars fit into the view
Jul 18 22:20:37 <the_alien> in one line
Jul 18 22:28:02 <KNY> the_alien, oh sorry, I read your question backwards haha
Jul 18 22:28:04 <KNY> no clue
Jul 18 22:44:23 <the_alien> KNY: pretty tricky to get the f***ing appwidget being able to scroll texts :/
Jul 18 22:45:18 <patthoyts> not really.
Jul 18 22:45:34 <the_alien> patthoyts: tell me how
Jul 18 22:47:03 <patthoyts> If you put in a TextView and have it fill_parent for both layout_width and layout_height then get a handle to it in onCreate
Jul 18 22:47:34 <the_alien> there is no onCreate in the AppWidgetProvider
Jul 18 22:47:46 <patthoyts> then call setMovementMethod(new ScrollingMovementMethod() on the view
Jul 18 22:48:00 <patthoyts> oh. nuts
Jul 18 22:48:51 <the_alien> :)
Jul 18 22:49:12 <the_alien> as i said... tricky ;)
Jul 18 22:49:31 <patthoyts> don't you still have to add  a view to it?
Jul 18 22:50:41 <the_alien> can just use RemoteViews
Jul 18 22:50:56 <the_alien> and the widgets aren't able to scroll in the current version
Jul 18 22:51:09 <the_alien> so i'm trying to have a workaround
Jul 18 22:51:56 <the_alien> easiest would be to remove line after line to have it scrolling
Jul 18 22:54:02 <the_alien> i'll think i do a popup instead
Jul 18 22:54:08 <the_alien> that would be scrollable *sigh*
Jul 19 02:54:42 <jasta> sigh, when is googlecode going to support git :(
Jul 19 02:54:49 <wm_eddie> never.
Jul 19 02:54:57 <jasta> i really might move my whole project to github
Jul 19 02:55:15 <wm_eddie> They reviewed git and hg, and found HG a much better fit for their infrastructure.
Jul 19 02:55:25 <jasta> hg?
Jul 19 02:55:31 <wm_eddie> mercucial
Jul 19 02:55:49 <wm_eddie> a DVCS like git.
Jul 19 02:55:54 <jasta> lol, sure
Jul 19 02:56:09 <wm_eddie> A bit easier to use though.
Jul 19 02:57:02 <wm_eddie> Not as easy as bzr in my opinion though.
Jul 19 02:58:56 <jasta> what on earth are you talking about?
Jul 19 02:59:03 <jasta> why would googlecode ever support non-free tools?
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