**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Sun Jul 19 02:59:57 2009 Jul 19 03:03:43 jasta: What's non-free? Jul 19 03:05:36 oh actually i didn't realize mercurial was open source Jul 19 03:07:28 hg was made just before Git was made. For the same purpose. To replace bitkeeper. Jul 19 03:17:44 wm_eddie: how do you know about this discussion at google btw? Jul 19 03:17:57 curious to understand their reasonings for not supporting git Jul 19 03:18:07 we said so publicly Jul 19 03:18:42 i see, *reading* Jul 19 03:19:59 well i guess their argument about HTTP is fair Jul 19 03:20:04 git performs poorly over HTTP i've heard Jul 19 03:27:03 reading this DVCSAnalysis document, i get the sense the author(s) were fighting hard to have git be the tool selected :) Jul 19 03:27:25 in almost every section discussing git's disadvantages it is noted how easily it would be to overcome them :) Jul 19 03:32:17 I've been using git-svn to stay on Google Code, but it's a pain. Jul 19 03:32:40 -"-svn to stay on Google Code, " Jul 19 03:34:58 hehe Jul 19 03:35:08 i actually am quite over my git learning curve :) Jul 19 03:35:14 yeah Jul 19 03:35:19 i rarely have to fight with it Jul 19 03:35:54 though i must admit, i patched git with an --ignore-whitespace option prior to starting this enormous rebasing effort at work Jul 19 03:36:00 oooh Jul 19 03:36:02 that helps indeed Jul 19 03:36:18 i didn't author the patch, but i did have to modify it somewhat to fix bugs i encountered with it Jul 19 03:36:22 i should really email the author my fixes Jul 19 03:36:50 the patch was made recently and he _almost_ convinced the git maintiners to accept it upstream. if i can fix these issues and bring it back up with Linus and friends, it might actually make it upstream Jul 19 03:40:17 uuuuuuuuuuuugh unit tests Jul 19 03:40:29 go back to work jsharkey! Jul 19 03:40:59 jsharkey: Don't make us haul out the bullwhips again. Jul 19 03:41:07 it just feels like im not getting any /actual/ work done Jul 19 03:41:39 you're just getting 100% correct work done, right? Jul 19 03:41:55 amirite Jul 19 03:42:25 ha! Jul 19 03:46:13 http://code.google.com/p/android/issues/detail?id=3303 Jul 19 03:46:14 Jul 19 03:47:06 muhaha! i just had two adb instances fighting with each other!! Jul 19 03:47:12 both claiming the other was out of date Jul 19 03:47:31 and both killing each others' adbd Jul 19 04:07:08 romainguy: What's that all about? Jul 19 04:07:18 * kRutOn hasn't looked at other policies in the build. Jul 19 04:07:34 a weirdo compiling the MID policy for the G1 Jul 19 04:07:36 and not doing so properly Jul 19 04:07:42 and complaining that he did not do it properly Jul 19 04:07:44 so he's filing a bug Jul 19 04:09:55 jsharkey: i feel you. i'm working on unit tests for five right now Jul 19 04:10:12 jsharkey: unit testing my new sync engine so it doesn't suffer the same hell that the old one did Jul 19 04:15:54 Hm, does Android not support IDN/punycode? Jul 19 04:16:39 romainguy: i just did a diff of the two policies because i was curious if any actual code diverged... Jul 19 04:16:43 and saw this: Jul 19 04:16:49 - // XXX: arve says this is a hack for now Jul 19 04:16:50 + // XXX: This is a hack for now Jul 19 04:16:51 hehe Jul 19 04:17:08 the whole MID thingie has not been maintained for a while now Jul 19 04:17:10 poor arve, got his name removed. Jul 19 04:23:54 Every time I read a Unicode technical report, my heart sinks. Jul 19 04:43:07 okay... I want to create a https client that makes requests from my server. can I add an x.509 cert to the trust chain for the requests I issue? Jul 19 04:44:19 s/from/to/ Jul 19 04:53:10 you know HTTPS really sucks for a mobile device btw :) Jul 19 04:53:47 i mean if it makes sense given the sensitive nature of data you're sending go for it, but it's still very heavy Jul 19 04:57:42 jasta: hmm... we could do CRAM-MD5... Jul 19 04:58:52 and require that the user create an account on a non-mobile platform Jul 19 04:58:57 but that sounds like a pain... Jul 19 04:59:54 well you could do your new user creation of https, but implement everything else over http Jul 19 05:00:01 you could just use HTTPS to get a token and then do HTTP Jul 19 05:00:06 darn, lost. Jul 19 05:01:55 yeah, if it's only the initial account creation, then I'll do it that way. Jul 19 05:02:01 so... back to the initial question Jul 19 05:02:17 can I add an x.509 cert to the trust chain for the requests I issue? Jul 19 05:58:41 hmm Jul 19 05:58:57 I want to draw a Rect on a google map Jul 19 05:59:10 but cannot find anything that relates to android 1.5 Jul 19 05:59:42 I can draw overlays fine, the dynamic Rect eludes me at this point Jul 19 06:00:22 do you have a Canvas? Jul 19 06:01:12 here you go Jul 19 06:01:19 Overlay has a Canvas in the draw() method Jul 19 06:01:20 just use that Jul 19 06:06:59 * kRutOn fixes a bug in bouncy castle.. Jul 19 06:53:35 Anyone ever experience an error with "bitmap size exceeds 32bits"? I am trying to use a SlidingDrawer on top of a GLSurfaceView Jul 19 06:54:45 Use a smaller bitmap ;) Jul 19 06:54:55 Im not even using a bitmap :) Jul 19 06:55:05 sounds like a bit-depth issue Jul 19 06:55:08 it happens when the SlidingDrawer calls buildDrawingCache Jul 19 06:55:29 you cannot put a View on top of a SurfaceView Jul 19 06:55:31 what Bitmap.Config are you using? or it could be a PNG resource issue Jul 19 06:56:12 jsharkey: Im not using any images at all Jul 19 06:56:17 you cannot put a View on top of a SurfaceView Jul 19 06:56:48 romainguy: no ? I thought you could with a FrameLayout Jul 19 06:56:57 the API Demos have views on top of GLSurfaceView Jul 19 06:58:20 oh yeah that's right Jul 19 06:58:23 it's been fixed Jul 19 06:58:23 it only errors when I click on the handle of the sliding drawer Jul 19 06:58:32 im using 1.5 SDK btw. Jul 19 06:58:42 what do you put inside the drawer? Jul 19 06:58:55 another view Jul 19 06:58:59 with buttons and stuff Jul 19 06:59:22 i took everything out to try debug it, now the content is just an empty linearlayout with a background color set Jul 19 06:59:44 then I don't know Jul 19 06:59:53 what is the error you're getting exactly? Jul 19 07:00:24 java.lang.IllegalArgumentException: bitmap size exceeds 32bits Jul 19 07:01:07 what's the rest of the stack trace? Jul 19 07:01:30 is there a paste bin somewhere? Jul 19 07:01:36 nm, ill find one ;o Jul 19 07:03:31 romainguy: http://pastebin.com/d4209c85c Jul 19 07:07:16 I don't understand how that would happen Jul 19 07:07:25 can you try removing the surface view and see if that fixes the issue? Jul 19 07:07:37 sure Jul 19 07:09:57 romainguy: hmm weird, removing the glsurfaceview did not fix the problem, however I had the slidingdrawer inside of a custom view group, moving outside of that fixed the issue :( Jul 19 07:10:12 so a little bit my issue, a little bit android. now I gotta figure out why its doing that Jul 19 07:10:57 romainguy: all my custom view group is doing is laying out the sliding drawer so that it doesnt slide out the entire height, and aligns it too the bottom of the screen Jul 19 07:27:58 anyone here used oauth for twitter or google or anything i am having some trouble Jul 19 07:30:04 Process (com.myapp) has stop unexpectedly. Please try again Jul 19 07:30:23 thats the error i'm getting in the enukator Jul 19 07:30:33 emulator Jul 19 07:33:50 Radzell: usually there are more details in logcat Jul 19 07:33:56 did you add the internet permission? Jul 19 07:40:24 yes Jul 19 07:40:56 i added permission and evrything Jul 19 07:41:42 Jul 19 08:29:36 romario333: hey i didnt know you made opensudoku Jul 19 08:29:51 great interface, glad to see you open sourced it too Jul 19 08:33:28 well it's just learning project, unfortunatelly I don't have much time for it at the moment :-( Jul 19 08:33:38 well it seems functional Jul 19 08:33:43 only thing i would add is a generator, of course Jul 19 08:33:55 i like the UI a lot better than the other sudoku game i was using Jul 19 08:34:07 yeah I'm planning to create some web UI with generator Jul 19 08:34:14 fonts are bigger, and you can more easily push numbers in the numpad mode with just the touch screen Jul 19 08:34:52 and you have an option to clear hints, which is really nice for end game Jul 19 08:37:25 well I want to create web app, where you can compete with other players, see your stats etc. I hope that I will have time for that in august Jul 19 08:37:38 that would be cool Jul 19 09:25:06 Hi, is there a way to monitor the CPU load? Jul 19 10:35:36 romario333: how will that work? Jul 19 10:52:42 *sigh* after developing an eclipse based client with a graphical workflow designer, i feel pretty stupid doing an android app Jul 19 11:15:37 hi Jul 19 11:18:44 Does the SlidingDrawer only work with a GridView as content? I always get a NullPointerException when using a LinearLayout Jul 19 11:18:45 hello Jul 19 11:27:56 how do i add a radio group to a ListView with SeperatedListAdapter ? Jul 19 11:47:37 I have a problem where a TextView is not updating at all. I'm very much a beginner using Android, but I'm sure I managed to do pretty much exactly this in my first test program (this is my second, I think). I have a summary here: Jul 19 11:47:40 http://paste.lisp.org/display/83812 Jul 19 11:47:44 Anyone have any advice? Jul 19 11:51:04 no need to make inflater to get reference to your textview Jul 19 11:51:07 final TextView messageView = (TextView)view.findViewById( R.id.test_message ); Jul 19 11:51:45 you can replace view.findViewById with findViewById Jul 19 11:54:21 Oh, really? Jul 19 11:54:25 testing… Jul 19 11:55:24 woah. it works now Jul 19 11:55:45 So, is there an explanation why it didn't work with inflater? It should theoretically be the same thing, yes? Jul 19 11:56:11 Or does inflater.inflate() create a new instance? Jul 19 11:56:26 nope..because with inflater..you are creating another instance of View Jul 19 11:56:35 Ah, that explains it Jul 19 11:58:20 Another question before I get on with my little project: If I want to have a background thread running and collecting data, displaying that data as it runs. What is the proper way to do this? Simply starting a thread is not the right way to do it, right? Jul 19 11:58:42 checkout AsyncTask Jul 19 11:58:50 An example of such an app would be the compass app, for example. It reads the direction and repaints it on the screen. Jul 19 11:59:05 AsyncTask. Got it. Thanks a lot Jul 19 11:59:39 np :) Jul 19 12:01:42 Sorry, this might be a silly question, but is there an easy way to send a SMS from the commandline? Jul 19 12:01:42 So in the compass example, the direction updates would be pushed as Progress units from the AsyncTask? Jul 19 12:01:54 Or do you suggest having the AsyncTask update the UI directly? Jul 19 12:10:03 im not really sure if thats the -best- way to do it for your project but AsyncTask allows you to update UI component directly/easily Jul 19 12:11:38 mharkus: Well, my project is mainly to learn the API's, so I'm trying to write a viewer for positional information Jul 19 12:11:42 (GPS and compass) Jul 19 12:11:56 many already exist, but this would be good for learning these api's Jul 19 12:26:50 hi Jul 19 12:27:14 if my app is 0.99phow much does the market take Jul 19 12:27:37 I.e what goes Into my account Jul 19 12:29:21 IIRC market takes 30% Jul 19 12:29:29 so .99*.6 = your profit. Jul 19 12:29:48 Gary|tp: if they take 30%, wouldn't that be *0.7 ? Jul 19 12:30:07 no shut up. Jul 19 12:30:22 gary? Jul 19 12:30:36 (I blame the 4 empty bottles of Guinness sitting on my desk atm) Jul 19 12:30:46 mmm. beer Jul 19 12:30:54 mmm. drunk math. Jul 19 12:31:10 Gary|tp: that's why google inveted the calculator :-) Jul 19 12:31:21 now everybody can count, drunk or not Jul 19 12:31:50 Except alcohol raises confidence, and I'm pretty sure I can figure out 1-.3 without a calc... atleast, when I'm sober Jul 19 12:33:31 gary: yeah, but you most likely are at least in the single digit percentile when it comes to intelligence Jul 19 12:33:34 (like most of us) Jul 19 12:35:37 anyone knows how i add a radiogroup to a listview with j.sharkeys SeparatedListAdapter? Jul 19 12:50:15 come on, someone has to know how i add a radiogroup to a listview by code Jul 19 12:50:35 hmmm why wuld u do that Jul 19 12:50:39 would look odd Jul 19 12:51:23 does anyone no on the htc magic how to quickly send a txt to all contacts Jul 19 12:52:03 why would that look odd? Jul 19 13:07:10 wel Jul 19 13:07:20 a list of radio buttons Jul 19 13:07:24 y Jul 19 13:11:30 ffs, why is my scrollview so small even though i said "fill_parent" for both directions Jul 19 13:11:45 layouting drives me crazy Jul 19 13:14:29 AndyArmstrong: a list with one entry being a radio group Jul 19 13:31:43 use droid draw Jul 19 13:47:03 I have a question about the htc magic music player.. I have an audio book on there, in which the files are all in sequence when viewed in a file browser, both with filename id3 tagname and track number.. yet when I play them on the phone the order is all messed up.. I have not shuffled the order.. any ideas as to why this happens and how to fix it? Jul 19 13:53:05 Hi, the SlidingDrawer does not seem to support placement at the top of the screen. Is there a way to make this work, or, can I use a custom notification bar liks in the Android home screen that allows opening from the top? What is the notification bar class? Jul 19 14:05:14 why oh why is the Math library in Java THAT retarded? Jul 19 14:09:17 Hello. i'm new to Android development. I've followed the proceedures on the Android website but when I create a new project via Eclipse (3.4) it doesn't create the R.java file associated with the project. That is a big problem since any modification in the res/ folder is not taken into account. Any idea on how I can correct that? Thanks! Jul 19 14:09:44 sure you're not importing android.R? Jul 19 14:09:50 N-0-X: R will only be created if you don't have any errors in your code Jul 19 14:09:54 also.. are you creating an Android project? Jul 19 14:10:24 N-0-X: so, in your case, you might need to rightlick on res/drawable (or whatever) and hit "refresh" Jul 19 14:11:32 N-0-X: Eclipse doesn't refresh the ressources automatically. If you have somewhere R.drawable.myThingy and you just dropped myThingy.png in the res folder, it won't know it's there, so it will throw an error, and won't rebuild R Jul 19 14:13:32 and what zinx said : make sure you don't import someone else' s R Jul 19 14:13:55 the kind of lines which Eclipse loves to insert for you without warning Jul 19 14:44:24 i have a ScrollView which fills the whole window, a LinearLayout inside it, which should fill_parent, but it's always as high as a button Jul 19 14:44:32 any idea what i'm doing wrong? Jul 19 14:46:09 sammyF, okay, thanks. In my case, I'm following the TabWidget tutorial ( http://developer.android.com/guide/tutorials/views/hello-tabwidget.html ). I have a bunch or errors by not adding anything of my own. For starters, the mTabHost variable wasn't declared. Then, even though I declared idTextView1 (2 and 3 as well) in my main.xml file in the layout (like so: @+id/textview2 ), I cannot call R.id.textview2 because R.id cannot be resolved. Jul 19 14:46:29 ok, i want to add a button to a listview row, but as this makes the whole row unclickable, as many sites has pointed out this happens when you add a focusable widget to the listview, but i have yet to find a solution eventhough i KNOW there must be one, since i have seen this in many other applications, any ideas? Jul 19 14:47:13 is there some kind of setunfocusable on the button, or setselectable on the listview? (of course i still want the button to work :)) Jul 19 14:47:21 plz help a newbie (me) with his problem ;) Jul 19 14:47:24 Aaaah nevermind, I know why! Lately I've been working on a very large project so I unchecked "Build Automatically". Rechecking it solved my problems. Jul 19 14:47:50 N-0-X: lol .. yeah. sorry. should have been the first thing to ask ;) Jul 19 14:47:59 jeddy3, where have you seen a button in a list? Jul 19 14:48:11 sammyF, anyway, thanks for your help ;) Jul 19 14:48:19 the_alien: from the top of my head, astrid for example Jul 19 14:48:37 (todo-list application) Jul 19 14:50:57 can't anyone help me with the layouting problem ? Jul 19 14:50:58 adding a onclicklistener to a textview-"button", or removing focus-capabilities from button is quite ok, as long as the button is still clickable Jul 19 14:51:52 the_alien: oh, and also the builtin alarmclock Jul 19 14:52:19 you mean the checkbox? Jul 19 14:52:20 Another question: is it "normal" that the layout view (as opposed to the source view) of an XML file simply shows "NullPointerException:null"? Jul 19 14:52:39 jeddy3: you mean the checkbox? Jul 19 14:53:07 the_alien: yup (i'm assuming this must be a focusable widget as a ordinary button) Jul 19 14:53:51 oh i have this "title" "description" "checkbox" layout for the list, jeddy3 Jul 19 14:54:11 i could help u i've u answer my question ;) Jul 19 14:54:57 the_alien: :D Jul 19 14:55:18 http://jsharkey.org/blog/2008/08/18/separating-lists-with-headers-in-android-09/ Jul 19 14:55:37 jeddy3: i just used this and made the layout for the row to include a checkbox Jul 19 14:55:39 the_alien: oh, doh, there was a focusable attribute on the buttons, setting this to false solved mine ;), thanks for help Jul 19 14:55:46 :D Jul 19 14:56:04 shit Jul 19 14:56:05 ;) Jul 19 14:56:55 the_alien: hmmmm, can you really have a scrollview item filling parent? how high is a scrollview? Jul 19 14:57:14 sound like a paradox :) Jul 19 14:57:29 even with wrap_content .... doesn't work Jul 19 14:58:20 the scrollview nearly fills the whole window, just having a button below it Jul 19 14:58:47 jeddy3: http://img193.imageshack.us/img193/5884/device10.png looks like this Jul 19 14:59:14 the_alien: hmm, odd Jul 19 14:59:15 the ScrollView goes all the way down to the button Jul 19 14:59:34 the_alien: ah, now i understand Jul 19 14:59:40 the_alien: but sorry, i have no clue Jul 19 14:59:52 *sigh* Jul 19 15:00:42 jeddy3: or is a ListView in a ScrollView a bad idea? Jul 19 15:27:36 the_alien: no idea :| Jul 19 15:27:57 jedd3y, doing everthing manually now Jul 19 15:28:42 the_alien: i'm also trying to do something with some buttons on top, a scrollview between, and some buttons at the bottom, can't get it right :| Jul 19 15:29:22 jeddy3: it works for me, but the list i filled from source killed my layout :/ Jul 19 15:43:16 Hi, has someone tried out Shyhook's SDK for WiFi information? Jul 19 16:12:27 hi - how do I add words Into the dictionary on the phone! ? Jul 19 16:16:25 ,,,,, Jul 19 16:52:52 haro Jul 19 17:09:49 Hi, how do I create a folder in a project to add a custom jar file? I created the libs folder and put the jar file there, but it's not working... Jul 19 17:13:54 jdavidandroid, are you using Eclipse? If so, I think you have to go in the properties of the project then in Java Build Path and add the lib there. ;) Jul 19 17:15:30 N-0-X, yes it worked perfectly in Eclipse, Thank you!!! Jul 19 17:15:40 No problem. have a good one ;) Jul 19 17:17:45 hi Jul 19 17:18:53 i want to know how to get the application object from within a view object existing in that application. can anyone help on that question? Jul 19 17:19:51 e.g. within a android.widget.Button object i want to get a pointer to its application Jul 19 17:21:40 kenpark, I'm not sure I can help since i Jul 19 17:21:54 started android programming today, but what do you mean by its application? Jul 19 17:22:03 (sorry for the two liner) Jul 19 17:24:09 N-O-X, thanks any help is welcome Jul 19 17:24:36 you see ... in the activity class for example you can call getApplication() Jul 19 17:24:44 yes Jul 19 17:24:54 and it returns a pointer to the application objct in which the activity is "living" in Jul 19 17:25:24 and so you want to know basically "what happens" when someone clicks on your utton, is that correct? Jul 19 17:25:31 so now i go one step deeper - i am within a button-object living in an activity and i want to retrieve the application object from there Jul 19 17:26:07 no, not what happens. i want to know in which application it happened Jul 19 17:26:47 Oooh ok... that's a good question Jul 19 17:27:11 The problem here is that Button isn't a subclass of Activity... Jul 19 17:27:23 guys i'm running jf firmware 1.5 and i just recived a message for a 1.5 update is this just the normal version of cupcake ? and since i'musing jf should i not get these updates ? Jul 19 17:27:51 right - it isn't Jul 19 17:28:02 is it from the jf updater? Jul 19 17:28:05 or something else? Jul 19 17:28:34 system update Jul 19 17:28:48 maybe it's a lowlevel firmware update Jul 19 17:28:51 dunno Jul 19 17:41:05 hi Jul 19 17:41:19 why does this not work when im tryna change an imagebuttons bitmap in an appwidget Jul 19 17:41:30 kenpark: to get application in which event happened you can try something like: getContext().getApplicationContext() Jul 19 17:41:31 RemoteViews views = new RemoteViews(context.getPackageName(), R.layout.widget_word); Jul 19 17:41:32 views.setImageViewBitmap(R.id.drive,BitmapFactory.decodeResource(context.getResources(), R.drawable.drivingcar)); Jul 19 17:42:29 romario333, i had the same idea but i'm not really sure Jul 19 17:42:36 i will have a try Jul 19 17:42:46 .... Jul 19 17:43:59 ... Jul 19 17:47:01 romario333: you should make harder levels for opensudoku :) Jul 19 17:47:16 i can beat all the hard ones in under 20 minutes Jul 19 17:47:27 but if i use getContext().getApplicationContext() it will not lead me to the application object itself Jul 19 17:47:39 unfortunately that's what i need Jul 19 17:47:55 kenpark: this works for me: Application app = (Application)getContext().getApplicationContext(); Jul 19 17:48:11 jasta: do it blindfolded Jul 19 17:48:44 jasta: I know, I've used some code generation from gnome, as it turns out not the best one :-) Jul 19 17:48:59 jasta: *I mean sudoku generation Jul 19 17:53:49 romario333, great and so simple ;) Jul 19 17:57:05 im trying to change an imagebuttons bitmap on a appwidget however this is not working Jul 19 17:57:10 RemoteViews views = new RemoteViews(context.getPackageName(), R.layout.widget_word); Jul 19 17:57:10 views.setImageViewBitmap(R.id.drive,BitmapFactory.decodeResource(context.getResources(), R.drawable.drivingcar)); Jul 19 17:58:56 i wish there was a tool like gitx for Linux :\ Jul 19 18:00:37 jasta!?! ^^^ you sound knowledgeable Jul 19 18:05:37 anybody Jul 19 18:05:52 dassdsda3: i haven't looked into RemoteViews, but i'm sure what you want to do is possible you just aren't thinking clearly. Jul 19 18:06:34 from what the docs say - i believe this should work Jul 19 18:09:28 can anybody offer me any advice Jul 19 18:14:49 ... or perhaps tell me why eclipse cannot find MapAcitivy Jul 19 18:14:51 when i try and extend it Jul 19 18:16:44 dassdsda3, try Ctrl+Shift+O to organize imports if Eclipse cannot find a class. ;) Jul 19 18:19:24 I am downloading eclipse Jul 19 18:19:24 it has no suggestions Jul 19 18:19:39 * zelrikriando is a n00b and proud of it Jul 19 18:20:45 dassdsda3, I think you misspelled the class. On the channel you wrote "MapAcitivy" instead of MapActivity. Did you do the same mistake in your code? Jul 19 18:22:59 public class MyLocationActivity extends MapActivity { Jul 19 18:26:03 Okay. By the way, i'm new to Android so I don't even know if that class exists. Did you check that it does? Is it not in a particular lib? Are you sure to be in an Android project? Jul 19 18:28:21 well im confused as to where it exists Jul 19 18:28:25 because its part of sdk1.5 Jul 19 18:28:33 but obviously i dont have the right srt of imports by defaults Jul 19 18:30:43 sorry, i guess my connection ntimedout here... Jul 19 18:40:51 I have a question about TabActivity. Is it possible to have something above the tabs? Here the mockup of what I wish to do: http://img169.imageshack.us/img169/971/diagram1.png . The think is that the values which are above are generic for al three tabs (which is why I want it on top). Then, each tabs basically has the same layout (the one shown on the mockup). Jul 19 18:42:15 N-0-X: yes, you control where they go. Jul 19 18:42:20 but, i think your UI is fucking terrible :) Jul 19 18:43:08 ok I compiled my first java script Jul 19 18:43:37 When I run my program, I have a couple of problems: first of all, the Tabs, even though they are declared as "wrap_content" fill the whole page. The second problem is that the text associated to the spinner (in the case of the mockup "Spinner 1" and "Spinner 2") don't show. The third problem is that instead of of being one beside each other, the spinners are one under each other. They are however in a LinearLayout oriented vertically. Finally, neithe Jul 19 18:43:37 checkbox nor the submit button show at all... That's a huge load of problems, I agree. I can show you the main/xml layout if you wish. Jul 19 18:43:55 N-0-X: the tabs should be height=64dp Jul 19 18:44:08 jasta, terrible in a good way or bad way? Jul 19 18:44:17 N-0-X: when would terrible be good? Jul 19 18:44:29 right ... :p Jul 19 18:44:48 I think it s time to do something a bit harder Jul 19 18:45:46 jasta, the problem though is that I have common information which I don't think are interesting to repeat everywhere... Jul 19 18:46:02 Hi everyone, I have a rooted HTC Magic. Does anyone know if I can load it with the build for the Dev phone (Dream) from the Android sources? Jul 19 18:46:39 N-0-X: whatever dude :) Jul 19 18:47:30 hmm Jul 19 18:47:37 I dont understand what -ea does Jul 19 18:48:13 zelrikriando, what are you talking abuot? Jul 19 18:50:41 N-0-X: I am studying Java Jul 19 18:50:49 -ea is an option Jul 19 18:51:00 okay. Jul 19 18:54:17 man that looks a hell lot like C++ Jul 19 18:58:10 zelrikriando: it enables assertions at runtime Jul 19 19:00:04 I guess I dont understand what assertion means Jul 19 19:01:33 Anyone know if the program "arp" is installed on Android devices? Same question for ping. Thanks Jul 19 19:01:50 ping is installed on my htc magic Jul 19 19:02:01 not arp Jul 19 19:02:04 zelrikriando: if you write assert false; and assertions are enabled the program will crash Jul 19 19:02:22 usually in an assertion you put a condition that want to always be true (or think will always be true) Jul 19 19:02:41 and by enabling assertions you fail fast if any of your assertions proves to be wrong Jul 19 19:03:05 oh Jul 19 19:03:20 so it's like to handle crashes Jul 19 19:03:23 okay thanks rich_ Jul 19 19:03:24 or to debug Jul 19 19:04:08 assertions are just for debugging Jul 19 19:06:05 I see Jul 19 19:08:59 any ideas why this may happen http://pastebin.com/m46bcd450 Jul 19 19:09:12 when using a mapview Jul 19 19:09:47 looks like you are loading the classes from the SDK but in the emulator Jul 19 19:11:03 errr Jul 19 19:11:08 im running the app from the phone Jul 19 19:11:14 and thats appearing in logcat Jul 19 19:11:33 same thing Jul 19 19:11:44 looks like you're running the classes from the SDK's android.jar on the phone Jul 19 19:12:47 how the hecl... Jul 19 19:12:50 so how do i fix it Jul 19 19:12:59 no idea Jul 19 19:13:32 could it be to do with my maps api key Jul 19 19:16:47 i think the issue is in here romainguy Jul 19 19:16:48 http://pastebin.com/m3ff357a3 Jul 19 19:17:09 [2009-07-19 20:16:02 - SimpleDriverWidget] warning: Ignoring InnerClasses attribute for an anonymous inner class that doesn't come with an associated EnclosingMethod attribute. (This class was probably produced by a broken compiler.) Jul 19 19:22:15 .,., Jul 19 19:24:25 romainguy? Jul 19 19:27:29 can anybody help me out : > http://pastebin.com/m3ff357a3 Jul 19 19:27:37 and console spits out 10 or os Jul 19 19:27:40 [2009-07-19 20:16:02 - SimpleDriverWidget] warning: Ignoring InnerClasses attribute for an anonymous inner class that doesn't come with an associated EnclosingMethod attribute. (This class was probably produced by a broken compiler.) Jul 19 19:27:42 messages Jul 19 19:28:29 well that's a redundant layout Jul 19 19:28:35 you don't need the parent RelativeLayout Jul 19 19:29:08 this is copied directly of the google Hello MapView exmaple Jul 19 19:32:09 .. Jul 19 19:35:07 ho hum...... Jul 19 19:36:10 so thats great Jul 19 19:40:06 can anybody help me out : > http://pastebin.com/m3ff357a3 Jul 19 19:40:06 and console spits out 10 or os Jul 19 19:40:06 [2009-07-19 20:16:02 - SimpleDriverWidget] warning: Ignoring InnerClasses attribute for an anonymous inner class that doesn't come with an associated EnclosingMethod attribute. (This class was probably produced by a broken compiler.) Jul 19 19:44:13 :@ snore Jul 19 19:44:16 nobody can help then Jul 19 19:47:52 .,., Jul 19 19:55:43 can anybody help me out : > http://pastebin.com/m3ff357a3 Jul 19 19:55:44 and console spits out 10 or os Jul 19 19:55:44 [2009-07-19 20:16:02 - SimpleDriverWidget] warning: Ignoring InnerClasses attribute for an anonymous inner class that doesn't come with an associated EnclosingMethod attribute. (This class was probably produced by a broken compiler.) Jul 19 19:59:25 man this is LAME Jul 19 20:03:45 stop pasting the same messages over and over again AndyArmstrong Jul 19 20:08:41 frusrated by a number of things here tbh Jul 19 20:08:54 that's not a reason to flood this channel with the same question over and over Jul 19 20:11:31 AndyArmstrong, try the android-developers google group Jul 19 20:20:11 they simply spam the heck outa everything with everyones questions Jul 19 20:20:16 they flood my inbox Jul 19 20:32:22 would anybody be willing to take the time to help me through a troublesome confusing problem with loading my app which has died since starting to use googlemaps Jul 19 20:32:25 i can send them all source files Jul 19 20:36:47 AndyArmstrong, if you subscribe to a list, that's not spam. Set up a filter to send it all to a folder. Jul 19 20:44:22 what about this then, never seen this error Jul 19 20:44:23 http://pastebin.com/m2dc6410b Jul 19 20:44:37 says the class doesnt exist or cannot be found, despite the fact im lookng at it in eclipse perfectly Jul 19 20:46:29 AndyArmstrong: that class exists in _YOUR_ classpath, not another processes. Jul 19 20:46:48 you can't send arbitrary views through with RemoteViews -- only views that the other process knows about can be used, and only methods that the framework pre-selected to allow. Jul 19 20:46:52 this is a security mechanism Jul 19 20:47:02 to prevent arbitrary code execution in the AppWidget host, which you are attempting to do. Jul 19 20:50:34 AndyArmstrong: they simply spam the heck outa everything with everyones questions << why you're not doing here? :)) Jul 19 20:50:51